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August 16, 2022

A Multipolar Expo Shows Unipolar Wreckage

Currently the 10th Moscow Conference for International Security is taking place. Russia's president Vladimir Putin gave a speech there during which he painted the big picture of international dynamism that is driving the war in Ukraine and elsewhere:

The situation in the world is changing dynamically and the outlines of a multipolar world order are taking shape. An increasing number of countries and peoples are choosing a path of free and sovereign development based on their own distinct identity, traditions and values.

These objective processes are being opposed by the Western globalist elites, who provoke chaos, fanning long-standing and new conflicts and pursuing the so-called containment policy, which in fact amounts to the subversion of any alternative, sovereign development options. Thus, they are doing all they can to keep hold onto the hegemony and power that are slipping from their hands; they are attempting to retain countries and peoples in the grip of what is essentially a neocolonial order. Their hegemony means stagnation for the rest of the world and for the entire civilisation; it means obscurantism, cancellation of culture, and neoliberal totalitarianism.

They are using all expedients. The United States and its vassals grossly interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states by staging provocations, organising coups, or inciting civil wars. By threats, blackmail, and pressure, they are trying to force independent states to submit to their will and follow rules that are alien to them. This is being done with just one aim in view, which is to preserve their domination, the centuries-old model that enables them to sponge on everything in the world. But a model of this sort can only be retained by force.
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They need conflicts to retain their hegemony. It is for this reason that they have destined the Ukrainian people to being used as cannon fodder.
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It is obvious that it is only possible to reduce tensions in the world, overcome military-political threats and risks, improve trust between countries and ensure their sustainable development through a radical strengthening of the contemporary system of a multipolar world.

I reiterate that the era of the unipolar world is becoming a thing of the past. No matter how strongly the beneficiaries of the current globalist model cling to the familiar state of affairs, it is doomed. The historic geopolitical changes are going in a totally different direction.

In parallel to the conference the Army-2022 International Military-Technical Forum, an international weapon sales show, is taking place.

Next to Russian weapons, all battle tested in real wars, the exhibition showed a few pieces weapons that visitor should better not buy.

Here is a U.S. M-777 howitzer in very pristine conditions. It was most likely purchased for little money from some Ukrainian patriot.


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A short video of the gun can be seen here.

There was more such captured or otherwise acquired stuff, partly in a bad state, on display:

Maya @MayaSashenka - 4:34 PM · Aug 16, 2022

They have opened an extra exhibition dedicated to the captured weapons today. It will be soon open for public too.
Sadly I missed it, but RIA made a short video for public.
Video

I am pretty sure that multipolar visitors will make some fine jokes about those unipolar exhibition pieces.

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The way of living in America today exported to the world -
1) In food to be served in restaurants - no salt, no sugar, no gluten, no lactose.
2) In social meetings - keep your distance, don't touch me, don't ask to share the same cup of beer, don't ask to share the same food, don't flirt or the police will come to arrest you, don't touch my dog without my consent, etc...
3) Sexual life - no sex for the most part of it and more than one sexual experience you are a perv.
4) Cigarettes - you have to identify yourself to the cashier proving you are above 30 years.
5) Facial masks - Without one you will not be attended in ambulances, hospitals, medical offices even if you have problems to breath. It is better to die at home than in a hospital where you will completely isolated and have your visitor just for a couple hours after a screening every time you receive the same person.
6) Surveillance everywhere like a prison.

Posted by: Bayle | Aug 16 2022 23:18 utc | 101

NoNewsHere@94
"...I assume you remember the radical left's criticism of the Soviet Union being not much else than State Capitalism..."

No that was not 'the radical left's criticism.' It was a criticism made by certain factions of the left, most notably 'Tony Cliff' and Mike Kidron of the International Socialism group, which later became the SWP (Cliff had always loved that name and lamented its having been previously taken.)
That tendency has pretty well collapsed now, of its own political contradictions, one of which was the simplistic and inane slogan "Neither Washington nor Moscow but International Socialism" a formula which bemused millions of Third World radicals, while it reassured the CIA and MI6.
Like it or not the Soviet Union was a lot more and significantly different from 'State Capitalism.'

Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2022 23:20 utc | 102

@petergrfstrm | Aug 16 2022 20:10 utc | 57

Thanks for the article. Additionally Military Summary is beginning to say that the UK might be the real opponent to Russia, hiding behind the Ukraine. Maybe the UK is the chosen one (by the City) to enforce global chaos to the outliers who wont submit.

That was my initial thought months ago before Z started. Putin needs to find who is the real ennemy of Russia and Putin has been waiting for him to get out of his den. Is it really the UK?

Posted by: Richard L | Aug 16 2022 23:22 utc | 103

@Roger #39

Titanium does NOT have a melting point lower than steel. It’s mellting point is 1.668 C/3.034 F
Steel melts at depending on it’s alloyed composition between 1.371 C/2.500 F and 1.540 C/2.800 F.
Titanium is approximately 40% lighter than steel and has many good properties but isn’t as suitable in many applications as steel is. It is used mainly for lightness, requires different machining methods and should NEVER be used against itself as any flaws even on the most microscopic level will cause it to bind.
Making armaments out of titanium is not a good idea as it will inevitably require higher maintenance.
Where Titanium excels in in it’s corrosion resistance and it’s use in medical applications fro screwing bones back together. It is a material that the body does not react to in any way.

Posted by: Beibdnn | Aug 16 2022 23:22 utc | 104

The Russian, Chinese and Iranian central banks are not part of the BIS and are not given the "political independence" of other central banks which serves to remove democratic control.

The West is much better at hiding oligarchy through layers of courtiers who claim their indolence after being fully programmed to make the "right" decisions.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 16 2022 22:04 utc | 86

I never claimed that the Management and Regulation of Central Banks (including the "private" outlier USA) was not run by a cabal of like minded indoctrinated "professionals". In that respect they are identical to every other profession in almost every other country.

The Central Banks of China and Russia are members of the BIS, Iran is not.

https://www.bis.org/about/member_cb.htm

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 16 2022 23:23 utc | 105

@Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 16 2022 22:29 utc | 92

The 85% is the nations that refused to sanction Russia, a huge change from only 10 years ago. Until the US$ and Western financiers are dethroned, it is important not to be seen to be removing oneself from structures such as the BIS. They can get pissy and punitive very fast - as with Libya and its attempt to set up an alternative for Africa. Best to play nice until you can safely stick the knife in - like Brutus.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 16 2022 23:23 utc | 106

@ Sushi | Aug 16 2022 20:54 utc | 67

thanks sushi... propaganda really works based on the sin of omission more then anything else... your post highlights the omissions of the wapo article.. thanks..

@ Opport Knocks | Aug 16 2022 21:25 utc | 72

i think finding easy answers is not wise when you are dealing with a room of mirrors.. in this regard i agree with psychohistorian and rogers response to you... in fact, where we live - canada - you will note that most boc governors are ex goldman sachs types - mark carney being a good and recent example... he served as the governor of the Bank of Canada from 2008 to 2013 and the governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020. if you think these folks are serving the public and are held accountable by the public - we will have to agree to disagree...

as for what banks are a part of the bank of international settlements - yes scorpio, they are a part of the bis, but notice how the bis is now being used an a sledgehammer over russia... this is no accident and in fact based on voting rights that have been set up to favour the ''developed countries'' verses the other ''developing countries'' designation, you will find usa-uk as the ''developed'' and russia-china the ''developing''.... and etc. etc..

of course banking is made intentionally opaque for obvious reasons and this is no better reflected then in the concept of ownership of the central bank, along with myriad other aspects of who gets more or less voting rights on all of this and etc. etc.. nothing is black and white and simple and it has been intentionally made that way... this is based on my limited understanding of trying to understand all this myself beginning with reading the creature from Jekyll island maybe 20 or so years ago...

of course then there are the member banks to these so called central banks with their voting rights and etc. etc. too.... big messy story that requires a lot more study and insight then most people are willing to give to this topic...

Posted by: james | Aug 16 2022 23:24 utc | 107

I'd say a basic consensus is being articulated: The Western System is immoral, Anti-Human, and must be abolished. It will be an arduous process that's only now beginning. Enlightened people living within the Western System must do what they can to replace it. From the Joint Declaration I linked above:

"The Parties [Russia & China] appeal to all States, in the interests of the general welfare, to strengthen dialogue and mutual trust, to deepen mutual understanding, to uphold such universal values as peace, development, equality, justice, democracy and freedom, to respect the rights of peoples to independently choose the path of development of their countries, as well as the sovereignty and interests of States in the field of security and development, to protect the international system based on the central role of the United Nations. A world order based on international law, to strive for genuine multilateralism with the central and coordinating role of the UN and its Security Council, to promote the democratization of international relations, to ensure the achievement of peace, stability and sustainable development in the world."

As a historian, I'd describe the war between the West and Russia/China as the War to Attain Global Peace and Human Advancement.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 16 2022 23:41 utc | 108

Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2022 17:14 utc | 9

Another aspect of the NATO procurement policy is that it has wiped out most of the arms industries in member countries which are, more or less, forced to buy US equipment. This leads to lack of competition and technological stagnation in a system in which the market rules, and that market is monopolised.

Not really true. Europe is currently producing three separate current-gen fighter aircraft from France, Sweden and the Eurofighter consortium, the US Navy recently bought an Italian frigate design, there's a variety of indigenous tanks, APC's, small arms, missiles, helicopters and submarines.

Not that any of this is used for any good purpose, mind. But the days when even medium sized countries could sustain several independent military aircraft manufacturers ended in 1945. The cost of development for modern weapons platforms is eye-watering compared even to the Manhattan project.

Posted by: ZX | Aug 16 2022 23:45 utc | 109

@Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 16 2022 23:23 utc | 106

You are right about the membership of the BIS, but the Chinese central bank is very obviously ruled by the Party not the Financiers, as with Iran. Russia still seems to be squeezing out the liberal internationalists, Putin could do with some reading of Chinese economic texts.

@Posted by: Beibdnn | Aug 16 2022 23:22 utc | 105

You are right on the melting point of steel and titanium, doesn't change the massive cost difference (both raw titanium cost and much harder to work with than steel) and maintenance complexities. It reminds me of the complexity of the M-16 vs. the AK-47, the latter being built for sturdiness and simplicity of maintenance and operation. Seems there may also be some manufacturing issues with the M777:

"According to leaked Indian army documents the underperformance of the M777 howitzers was entirely predictable, and the guns had failed to meet critical performance requirements during previous field evaluation trials. According to the Hindustan Times, the Indian army had reported the M777 "had fared poorly in direct firing and air portability trials." Severe shortcomings with the barrel life, minimum range, and anti-skid mechanism were also recorded. The reasons why the military proceeded with the purchases despite this can only be speculated, but they are likely linked to New Delhi's recent moves to strengthen defence ties with Washington - for which increased arms purchases would be a key facilitator of military cooperation. US artillery do have a remarkable history of barrel bursts and accidents, and as recently as August 12th 2017 two U.S. soldiers were killed and five more injured when firing the M777 against Islamic State positions in Iraq due to a malfunction. Similarly to the Indian case, the shell exploded. This was just the most recent of a history of many similar such incidents for the M777. Some examples include the three Australian soldiers injured March 2014 when an M777 malfunctioned. The month before a U.S. soldier had been killed and two more were seriously injured during a live firing of the M777 at Fort Bragg - and three years before ten more personnel were injured in a similar incident with the same weapons system at the same place."

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/what-the-poor-performance-record-of-the-american-m777-howitzer-s-and-its-failure-in-the-indian-army-indicate-regarding-india-s-military-acquisition-strategy

Posted by: Roger | Aug 16 2022 23:47 utc | 110

@Nico #51
Turkey has always played towards its own interests.
It has been fan dancing between Russia and NATO for decades now.
Erdogan is leaning more towards Russia these days because of the coup attempt - which he blames the West for - but it doesn't mean that he won't act in the future in his and Turkey's interests, should the opportunity arise.
Lavrov and Putin understand this; nations acting in their own self interest does not mean said nations will act consistently or honorably...

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 16 2022 23:56 utc | 111

Posted by: Roger | Aug 16 2022 23:10 utc | 99
'No news' perhaps better named as 'No Clue' makes a basic category error. He completely misunderstands the role of productive forces and the relationship to the relations of production is a socialist system. This argument was fought out in the Soviet Union in the 1930's and has been resolved spectacularly in contemporary China. From this howler the rest of his anti-socialism flows and is arse gravy. The Trotskyist dogs still bark but the socialist caravan has moved on.

Posted by: Paul McGrory | Aug 16 2022 23:56 utc | 112

... and I'm pretty sure that anyone who did a tour of the recent strike sites in Crimea would see similar damaged Russian equipment

ya, except the point of the show is to show the very real, effective, battle tested Russian and Soviet weapons, and to show in a meme fashion the ineffective weapons that were touted as wunderwaffe by the West and pro-Ukraine circles. So Russia loses weapons, of course it does, especially considering the weapons lost in Saki (Crimea) were to sabotage and not any western weapons system. You're a clown.

Posted by: Alex | Aug 17 2022 0:02 utc | 113

TASS highlights Shoigu's remarks at the Security Conference. Here are a few:

End to unipolar world order

The absolute dominance of the United States and its allies is becoming a thing of the past, while multipolarity has become a reality: "The launch of a special military operation in Ukraine on February 24, 2022 put an end to the unipolar world order."

"A multipolar world is today’s reality. The shift from the dominance of one global leader to multiple centers is not progressing easily. However, real conditions are being created for the expansion of sovereign states."

On West’s role in Ukraine

"In Ukraine, Russian troops are being confronted by the West collectively which has been guiding this country’s leaders in a hybrid war against Russia." This involves financial assistance, the transfer of weapons and reconnaissance data as well as training for the Ukrainian military. In addition, the latter have been coordinating their actions with foreign advisors, while "the use of armaments has been under control of Western experts."

"NATO’s efforts are aimed at prolonging the agony of the Kiev regime. At the same time, we know for certain that no one at NATO has any doubt that the goals set by the Russian leadership for the special military operation will be attained, while plans to weaken Russia strategically and economically are failing.

One wonders how Stoltenberg responded, that is if he bothered to inform himself. Same with Pentagon and Sullivan/Blinken.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 17 2022 0:04 utc | 114

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 16 2022 22:55 utc | 95
The oldest mantra in religion and political economy is that 'the poor will always be with us' (Matthew 26:11). Communism has never been 'tried.' History is sadly only in the early stages of socialism as in China. For someone who dismisses an old hippy its a bit rich to preach one of the oldest dogmatic fallacies in religion and feudal philosophy.

Posted by: Paul McGrory | Aug 17 2022 0:05 utc | 115

Russia has nine time zones, needs ten. Ukraine is the key to it not being a dreary polluted state! From North Korea to Tehran Russia and its fiends stagnate. Absurd.

Posted by: Ahole | Aug 17 2022 0:09 utc | 116

The 'we are all guilty' meme is a fallback of the oligarchs and part of the confidence trick of Identity Politics.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2022 23:08 utc | 98

Bevin you didn't read what i wrote, I'm not regurgitating "we the guilty" meme, I'm saying that we the people are also responsible for what is happening.

And yes the American (and Canadian and Australian etc) people in ignorance bartered Big Macs and Iphones for healthcare and workers rights. I'm calling the spade not denigrating workers. Brave and intelligent Americans also fought and fight against it but how many joined them?

I notice that many more westerners are interested in Marxism, workers unions, cooperatives etc these days. its a good and necessary start.

Posted by: K | Aug 17 2022 0:09 utc | 117

you will note that most boc governors are ex goldman sachs types - mark carney being a good and recent example... he served as the governor of the Bank of Canada from 2008 to 2013 and the governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020. if you think these folks are serving the public and are held accountable by the public - we will have to agree to disagree...

Posted by: james | Aug 16 2022 23:24 utc | 108

Not quite... Among Bank of Canada Governors, only Carney was with Goldman Sachs prior. Carney was a harsh critic of both Goldman and JP Morgan during the financial crisis after he left GS.

Almost all Bank of Canada Governors are graduates of one or more Canadian Universities, some with PhDs from Ivey League, Oxford or the LSE.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 17 2022 0:15 utc | 118

oh. look. Downside risk of turning over NPPs to Ukraine is official.
RT | ‘Dirty bomb’ in Ukraine would affect nine countries – nuclear expert
whocoodaf*node since MARCH

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 17 2022 0:20 utc | 119

TASS also reported on the main words stated by China's Defense Minister. Here's an excerpt:

"China cannot be tamed. We are not afraid of the forces of evil, as well as any enemies. We are determined and ready to fight with any enemy."

So, the Outlaw US Empire is now an evil force different from ordinary enemies, to which I'll agree.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 17 2022 0:20 utc | 120

@psychohistorian #5
Yet another attempt to count chickens before they hatch.

I reiterate: discussions of "the right way" are irrelevant so long as there is not a clear path to removing or neutralizing the present oligarchy's control over government, media, finance and corporations.

There is no magical device that will do that.
There is no garbage chute in this Death Star that a plucky fighter can destroy the whole edifice with.
There is no "neat trick" that will make everything good again.

We have a self-reinforcing system where elites push societal and government agendas for their own benefit; fix the one and the blob just pushes in from another sector.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 17 2022 0:34 utc | 121

For those who find it problematic to state that the US does this or that I think a document from 2005 may have interest
'The Neo-Cons Are British Liberal Imperialists' by Mary Burdman
https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2005/eirv32n42-20051028/eirv32n42-20051028_066-the_neo_cons_are_british_liberal.pdf

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 16 2022 20:10 utc | 57

From that link:

"But, the reality is not the neo-con. The reality is what uses it. The reality is the bankers, who use it. And, I mentioned already, our dear friend Felix Rohatyn from New York, who is famous for Big MAC—not the edible variety, but the inedible variety; the one who takes your food away from you. And, this is where the danger comes from. It always is this. This kind of scum. This fascist scum. And they are fascist scum! In the strict sense. This fascist scum comes from a certain section of bankers, which are called the Synarchist International. And, it is the bankers who use them. It is the bankers they serve. It’s the bankers that fund them. It’s the bankers that move them into positions that they are that they are in. Look at who owns them. The Washington Post is one of the centers of this stuff, part of the scumbag operation. That’s how it works. . . ."

Do you think this Synarchist International is real or misinformation? Wikipedia returns so much verbiage I cannot even begin to follow it so gave up quickly! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synarchism

Generally, I doubt all such simplistic explanations even though doubtless many of the people and activities described in the article are accurately reported. Clearly something is going on and clearly there is some string-pulling in the background but probably it's just a lot of different upper echelon factions who are as much at war with each other as they are with ordinary folks. But I really don't know and don't expect to find out much in print on the internet. But maybe you have zeroed in on the mother lode?

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 0:36 utc | 122

karlof1 | Aug 16 2022 19:52 utc | 53

re: In my experience, a problem must be seen--called out--to be corrected....

If only all of us would dare to grasp the inherent, nearly invisible contradiction in the above observation...that just misses the correct target.

YES a problem must be SEEN, but using WORDS to call-out has been proven throughout history to be ineffective.

Namely, any PHYSICAL display that accurately SHOWS a problem to an observer will communicate clearly the NATURE of the problem and thereby elicit an appropriate response toward its solution... not to be confused with some OTHER problem, real or imagined. WORDS ALONE do not communicate with
sufficient accuracy the nature of the beast.

Anyone can do this if they try! Just take any problem, make a PHYSICAL model of the concepts involved, and the model will either communicate accurately with full comprehension or, if not, the PHYSICAL model itself is not accurate or is missing vital parts.

The above WORDS and IDEAS need to be PHYSICALLY modelled by a reader to be understood. How can this be done on the internet? Maybe cartoon-like illustrations with only enough detail to make clear what each part is?

It is not easy...but doing an accurate physical representation will suggest its solution. Models can be very crude...the only test is the model must SHOW or make SEEable the THING it claims to demonstrate.

The awful conclusion? Reading, speaking or hearing WORDS is unworkable at communicating beyond juvenile/simplistic human affairs.

We need tools to display PHYSICAL models of concepts using the internet.

SHOW what is a human being.

SHOW what is human mind.

SHOW the justice system.

SHOW the creation of a billionaire.

SHOW democracy.

SHOW how a US President is chosen.

SHOW hypnosis.

And here I am, SHOWING how talk is cheap.

Posted by: chu teh | Aug 17 2022 0:42 utc | 123

K | Aug 17 2022 0:09 utc | 118
"...the American (and Canadian and Australian etc) people in ignorance bartered Big Macs and Iphones for healthcare and workers rights..."
That's not actually true: they were tricked into believing that neo-liberals posed no threat to established rights and services. Part of this trickery involved the stupidity/treachery of Union leaders and 'Labour' parties, among many other crimes , promising that, if elected they would restore lost gains. Instead they codified them.
There was no barter unless you consider the siren sounds of the media and academe to the effect that things have never been better etc, bargaining.
The truth is that, for reasons that we all understand and which include the ineptitude of the nominal leaders of the working people- including those inveterate sectarians who, like our new friend NoNews, feel that much is to be gained, as we march into battle, by ripping one another to shreds and refusing to struggle in the same ranks as 'Stalinists" 'Trotskyists" or whatever (bearing in mind that most of the so called Trotskyists and Stalinists know nothing of the century old controversies which initially divided them)... for reasons that we all understand the working people had their pockets picked and their ribs tickled by the clever, professional and massively supported agents of the class which, through its ownership of the means of livelihood, has power over all of us.

And now let us return to the burning issues of whether Hudson understands Marx, even though he seems to conclude with the same injunction to action as that old political economist who was buried in 1883. And of whether, should Russia and China put an end to the domination of imperialism they would then be 'just as bad' and other such idiocies. Which is the perfect alibi for inaction amounting to support of the Empire, just as crying "neither Washington nor Moscow" was exactly what Washington wanted to hear and delighted in listening to.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 0:44 utc | 124

But I really don't know and don't expect to find out much in print on the internet. But maybe you have zeroed in on the mother lode?
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 0:36 utc | 123

I believe this article is from the Larouche foundation. its a non Marxist anti Empire school of thought in the US founded by Lyndon La Rouche. You can find them easily online and you tube. They make a lot of sense most of the time, I have not gone deeply into their principles rather listened to various proponents from time to time including in Australia. I'm always sceptical of almost any US bred philosophy, but there have to be benign ones coming out of there right? I do not think La rouche is globalist, rather nationslist and community focussed.

Posted by: K | Aug 17 2022 0:47 utc | 125

Add to my chu teh | Aug 17 2022 0:42 utc | 124

SHOW gaslighting
SHOW plunder
SHOW how BALANCE Of PAYMENTS effects ability to pay debt
SHOW how healthcare effects labor costs.

Please someones create internet tools to model concepts. I have been unable to do it.

Posted by: chu teh | Aug 17 2022 0:58 utc | 126

Scorpion@123
It will be interesting to watch for comments on K's answer to you. LaRouche, who had a colourful career, to put it very mildly, was a former Trotskyist from, I believe New York where Lev Davidovich's followers, organised into tiny sects, abounded for decades.
I'd say 'look him up' except that I expect everything to do with him has been scrubbed and reshaped by fanatical (mildly speaking again) fans.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 1:00 utc | 127

What does work is ethics, norms and values in finance and avoiding the fall of society to a purely transactional one, a prime example of it the US of A. Over there, everything is a transaction: from marriage to lawmaking.

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 16 2022 22:55 utc | 95

When you say something like that I understand. When people go into discussions about communism and capitalism and socialism and so forth I just can't follow the language any more. And it seems that many using such language have to define the terms their own way and often argue with each other about what they mean. Even a term like 'working class' is almost meaningless. Probably lower class is better, i.e. the bottom 25% in disposable income or some such. But I know many working class people who make triple what a typical 'middle class' teacher or office clerk makes..

It seems what Russia and China are doing - and others - is creating a contemporary working model that combines very strong state, basic socialist-style services (health, roads, cheap housing, schools), state-sponsored growth-generating financing, reduced (or eliminated) middle men (as per Wall Street model) and so forth. But they are buying and selling, manufacturing and selling, have private property and all the rest of it. I don't seem them as all that different from the West except that they are running systems which, at least for now, are far less corrupt and enjoying far more growth.

But once China has lifted her billions out of poverty, growth might be harder to come by; then will come a big test. Russia has unlimited upside because of huge space. America has slowed down a lot because of less growth once the country was fully populated about fifty years ago. Yes, room for many more but because it was corrupted early on in her history (by the banksters etc.) growth is hampered. If she had more of a Russian or Chinese model the country would be booming but with so much grift and graft...

Anyway....

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 1:00 utc | 128

"fanatical (mildly speaking again) fans." Ouch!

Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 1:01 utc | 129

Just shoot down the brits recon plane, after giving a one time warning.

Posted by: morongobill | Aug 17 2022 1:06 utc | 130

"And here I am, SHOWING how talk is cheap.
Posted by: chu teh | Aug 17 2022 0:42 utc | 124

Ha ha!

Actually, the impression I've been getting, admittedly from afar, is this is exactly what Putin is doing (far more than any other leader or country) with this SMO and how he handles diplomacy, negotiations, public statements. He is indeed showing by doing. His actions line up with his words and his speech is restrained, practical, logical, consistent, principled, clarifying, visionary. I've never seen any politician or leader like him.

That said, although my heart is on board, my head urges caution until things play out much further.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 1:20 utc | 131

@karlof1, nice, that checks off "axis of evil" and with "coalition of the willing" - sorry, "multipolar international dynamism lining up behind Operation Ukrainian Freedom" - sorry, "Special Military Operation". That's almost bingo!

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 17 2022 1:20 utc | 132

I'd say 'look him up' except that I expect everything to do with him has been scrubbed and reshaped by fanatical (mildly speaking again) fans.
Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 1:00 utc | 128

Ha ha can't say i disagree with you based on what i've seen. He certainly does have a following. Perhaps due to the dearth of useful political philosophy in the US?

Yes "ouch" but some of his followers do speak good common sense. (not so much the article we are referring to though it smacks of partisan politics to me )

Posted by: K | Aug 17 2022 1:23 utc | 133

New sitrep thread from Jomini. These are must-reads IMO if only for the maps although I find his analysis excellent as well. Enjoy!

https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1559710631774781445

Posted by: Yenwoda | Aug 17 2022 1:25 utc | 134

"I believe this article is from the Larouche foundation. its a non Marxist anti Empire school of thought in the US founded by Lyndon La Rouche. You can find them easily online and you tube. They make a lot of sense most of the time, I have not gone deeply into their principles rather listened to various proponents from time to time including in Australia. I'm always sceptical of almost any US bred philosophy, but there have to be benign ones coming out of there right? I do not think La rouche is globalist, rather nationslist and community focused."
Posted by: K | Aug 17 2022 0:47 utc | 126

Scorpion@123
"It will be interesting to watch for comments on K's answer to you. LaRouche, who had a colourful career, to put it very mildly, was a former Trotskyist from, I believe New York where Lev Davidovich's followers, organised into tiny sects, abounded for decades.
I'd say 'look him up' except that I expect everything to do with him has been scrubbed and reshaped by fanatical (mildly speaking again) fans."

Posted by: bevin | Aug 17 2022 1:00 utc | 128

K & Bevin: I have a similar reaction to Ehret's pieces as I did to LaRouche's years ago. I find them very stimulating in that they often reveal historical connections I've read about nowhere else. Like yesterday I found out that the Eurasian Unity movement (so to speak) has happened several times before in history but came to nought, principally with Charlemagne but also some other forays.

But I also find (again with both) that I start to feel that something doesn't add up, or there is a push to a conclusion that doesn't quite follow from the premises and I end up feeling generally alienated from the material.

Indeed, it is partly thanks to LaRouche that years ago I found myself resistant to any published theory like the Council of 300, the Rothschild Banking Empire or whatever and am now distrustful of theories that boil things down to an identifiable point, group or ideology. Simplicity is good but many realities are 'multiplicitous' (to make up a word) and unless one gets the simplification exactly right, it is often more misleading than helpful.

Going back into the past is both fascinating and helpful. But at the same time, nothing repeats (though it may rhyme) and one has to keep abreast of the present which is always in a state of being new and fresh and different and, to a certain degree, unprecedented. Russia today, for example, has no end of characteristics of Russia through the centuries. They are a people, a civilization, a culture.... Russia. But they are also a Russia that has never been seen before and as such defy explanations or definitions rooted too much in their past.

Or we can say it another way about communism: whatever country might attempt pure communism today it won't look like it did in the 1920's even if they follow it to the letter. Because nothing is the same as the 1920s.

In any case, if you or K have any insights about LaRouche that seem pertinent to the current geopolitical tectonic shifts I would love to hear them. But I myself will not be doing a deep dive on them. I shall keep reading Ehret, who I believe is of that lineage, but mainly for his revealing historical essays.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 1:35 utc | 135

A very good post and a high calibre response by the bloggers whichever point of view they champion. I will say something simple, very simple, if the collective West (USA and UK in particular) continue to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine then, I am in no doubt whatsoever that Russia and China will declare a formal military alliance and will enter the international fight together. They are there in all but declaration. Now, I wonder, who will win that confrontation? The Collective West or Russia and China. It's a no brainer of course the latter. Putin is right of course, as he usually is, the USA and UK in particular are loose cannons out of control fighting for the last gasp of their hegemony. The UK is nothing in the world today but hangs on to the USA's coat tails as a delusional narrative that they are still some sort of global power. They are not and God knows, I live here. Next year when I retire I'm getting the hell out of here to a more civilised country and culture. I am dismayed, utterly dismayed, that Liz Truss looks as though she is going to be our next Prime Minister. That's the UK finished. She will declare war on Russia and that's us, gone. Well, I strongly believe Russia and China are on the brink of declaring a formal military alliance the collective Wests can eat cake.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Aug 17 2022 1:36 utc | 136

To speed up the new multi polar world Russia and China should proliferate drones, jammers, cyber capabilities, capabilities to make biological agents, landmines and sea mines.

Posted by: Jason | Aug 17 2022 1:40 utc | 137

@Posted by: Opport Knocks | Aug 17 2022 0:15 utc | 119

The absolute worst Bank of Canada Governor was John Crow (1987-1994, ex IMF) who kept seeing inflation where it did not exist in the early 1990s and produced a severe depression in Canada at that time, made worse by an over-valued exchange rate (due to the real interest rate level). I couldn't believe how depressed Toronto was when I first moved up from New York in a US which was cutting interest rates. The high interest rates, combined with the economic depression, also exploded the government debt levels which were then used as excuses to slash central government funding for healthcare. Some thought Crow was doing his previous boss's bidding to facilitate the "opening up" of Canada.

At the same time the Federal Liberals refused to reverse the US-Canada Free Trade Agreement and the highly regressive Goods and Services Tax (both election promises). The Ontario NDP also bottled-out from putting in place the promised province-owned car insurance system, like the one in Quebec which costs half as much as the private alternatives. Just like in the US, it was the Liberals (Democrats) who resided over the neo-liberalization of Canada in the 1990s. The NDP failure laid the way open for the Conservative hooligans in Ontario

Posted by: Roger | Aug 17 2022 1:43 utc | 138

Note:
multiplicitous IS a word; just the browser spell-checker thought it wasn't!

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 1:44 utc | 139

Yuri’s briefing today had an interesting tidbit about how lack of manpower the last few months has hampered Russian progress. I think there may be something to that. It hasn’t been catastrophic because of the artillery war, but it has limited what Russia can do and it’s likely that this isn’t what Russia hoped for. (It’s not bad for Russia, necessarily, just far from ideal.) if that’s true, it goes to show that Russia was not planning an invasion. It fits with the MCG analysis that Russia needed time to get artillery and logistics in place early on. That’s a lot easier than people. And it explains why the Chechen academy has been churning out graduates. As well as why now the progress seems to be starting to steam roll when it hasn’t before.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 17 2022 1:46 utc | 140

@ Opport Knocks | Aug 17 2022 0:15 utc | 119

although mark carney is the obvious example, directly coming from goldman sachs, my use of the term ''goldman sachs types'' still works for a few of these boc governors... a couple of them have direct links to the imf which is essentially a front for wall st. and another one of them was involved with export development canada, which operates just like the imf, while supporting canuck banks instead... if you ever get a chance, read perkins classic, confessions of an economic hitman to gain a greater insight into how these ponzi schemes to rape the poor countries and force them to sell off their countries valuable assets in exchange for these 'loans' works... ts it's a great read that sheds a lot of light on the workings of the '' international banking system''..

Posted by: james | Aug 17 2022 1:47 utc | 141

Multipolar mental disorders are probably not all that much less harmful than bipolar mental disorders, in all honesty...

Posted by: Josh | Aug 17 2022 1:47 utc | 142

AFAIK there is not a single instance of a war between two comparable adversaries where Wunderwaffe decided the issue.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 17 2022 2:13 utc | 143

That Russia wants to harm the Ukraine as little as possible is one of the most confounding problems that the Russians face...

"...it looks like a big Smash 'n' Grab to me" (Constantine)

William Gruff | Aug 16 2022 19:05 utc | 36
_____

Thanks for your thoughtful and fairly courteous response to Patrick Constantine.

Patrick's Smash 'n' Grab quip is indeed a projection, a projection of US "shock 'n' awe", "sweep it all up, things related and not" mass-destruction, including civilians and civilian infrastructure.

Patrick shows remarkable ignorance of the US coup d’état in the Ukraine and the genocide in the Donbass (14-22,000 killed) that forced Russia's intervention. And its painstaking progress in the SMO demonstrates the antithesis of US criminal insanity in destroying so many countries in the last two decades alone. Putin, Lavrov, Zakharova, et al are statesmen who say what they mean and mean what they say. What a striking and refreshing contrast to US/EU politicians!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Aug 17 2022 2:16 utc | 144

the people simply took stuff from kings
Posted by: Nico | Aug 16 2022 19:28 utc | 45

Which people?
[MAP]
src: Sputnik interactive

When?
[long view], abridged

And y'all be wondering WHY? oh WHY?! G7 still be at war "to secure supply chains" to and "shared history" with developing countries "hosting" your resources.

Posted by: sln2002 | Aug 17 2022 2:20 utc | 145

OKay, I have woken up. It seems to me that the U.S. does not want a peaceful resolution to this conflict. There is just too much money to be made by the military industrial complex and campaign coffers. I recently watched a video that stated only 30% of arm shipments to the Ukraine is are actually making it to the battlefield. In this war, we are supporting what has been said is the most corrupt nation on earth. We are also fighting a proxy war against the second most corrupt nation on earth.

Posted by: yawn | Aug 17 2022 2:24 utc | 146

Roger | Aug 16 2022 23:47 utc | 111
examples include the three Australian soldiers injured March 2014 when an M777 malfunctioned.
Curious where and why 3 Aussie soldiers were operating a M777 in 2014.
Ukraine?????

Paul McGrory | Aug 16 2022 23:56 utc | 113
arse gravy
@22:04 utc | 87 M8. Discuss Au politics at the open thread. The bartender here is disposed (as is his right) to deleting OT comments.

Sushi | Aug 16 2022 20:54 utc | 67
Thanks for that WaPo synopsis.

T Paine | Aug 16 2022 23:17 utc | 101
UK has been very hands on and (special) boots on ground in Ukraine, especially since 2014.
Right now the UK is running training camps for Ukrainian soldiers.
The assumption was these soldiers would then return to Ukraine to sit in a 2014 constructed ditch and rapidly die.
I see now (my conjecture) is the Brits are training saboteurs.
Given the incidents in Crimea and reported by Military Summary channel for Aug 16… the first few teams appear to be active.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 2:36 utc | 147

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 1:00 utc | 129

Scorp, there seems to be an implicit assumption that economic growth is essential to a nation's well-being. This strikes me as a major way in which the world has gone off the rails, rather than focusing on whether people's basic needs are met. (If this topic is of interest, further discussion probably should be at some other thread.)

Posted by: David Levin | Aug 17 2022 2:43 utc | 148

Posted by: Nico | Aug 16 2022 19:43 utc | 49

Jack Ma's Ant Financial was (is?) a consumer credit company that charged (charges?) usurious rates. Ant was supposedly using "sophisticated AI" to lend to each borrower up to just before the tipping point of said borrower going bankrupt, generic central bank lending guidelines be damned. At the time of the canceled IPO, 2% of Ant's loan book was backed by Ant's own capital, the other 98% was by bank loans and securitization of the loan book. Ant's backers had little at risk themselves, if/when the whole thing blew up. Chinese regulator stopping the IPO is a net win for China.

Posted by: Another Brother Ma | Aug 17 2022 2:52 utc | 149

From the twitter yenwoda linked:
3/ Weather Outlook. Forecast for the next 10-days will see temps range from 35-28 C during the day & 22-18 C at night. Cloud cover will not degrade air & missile strikes, while 71.5%-night illumination will significantly aid ZSU SOF/Partisan activity.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 3:00 utc | 150

For now the world is still unipolar and it is premature to predict that changing. The USA can still send their UN Ambassador to Africa and warn countries of the consequences if they deal with Russia - and they don't tell the USA where to go. China still maintains neutrality in the Ukraine/Russia conflict for fear of USA sanctions. Same with India. In order for Russia to sell fossil fuels to India and China they have to sell it at a discount to the market. Evidently they need some cover in order to justify the purchase to the USA. Europe still obediently follows the USA. They need USA permission to buy Venezuelan oil. Biden could bellow with the head of Germany 10 feet away, that he will stop any attempt to complete More Stream 2.

Posted by: Simon | Aug 17 2022 3:06 utc | 151

@Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 2:36 utc | 148

Roger | Aug 16 2022 23:47 utc | 111
examples include the three Australian soldiers injured March 2014 when an M777 malfunctioned.
Curious where and why 3 Aussie soldiers were operating a M777 in 2014.
Ukraine?????

Nope, Queensland Australia. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/three-soldiers-injured-firing-howitzer


Posted by: Roger | Aug 17 2022 3:23 utc | 152

Something like 20 British armored vehicles captured in a warehouse.
https://t.me/loordofwar/36198

Poles increasingly fed up with Ukrainian immigrant arrogness.
https://t.me/loordofwar/36209

Just some "kids" from AFU playing in the school.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/14726
https://t.me/azmilitary11/14741

German interior minister Nancy Faeser worried about attacks on gas terminals by left-wing extremists.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/14793

Another batch of Nato ATGM weapons delivered to the DPR.
https://t.me/azmilitary11/14806

Summary of US weapon aid to Ukraine (and Afghanistan).
https://t.me/azmilitary11/14812

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 17 2022 3:49 utc | 153

Scorp, there seems to be an implicit assumption that economic growth is essential to a nation's well-being. This strikes me as a major way in which the world has gone off the rails, rather than focusing on whether people's basic needs are met.

Posted by: David Levin | Aug 17 2022 2:43 utc | 149

I guess it is off-topic, but yes I agree totally. Actually, if all those freaking out about climate change really cared about the planet then they would focus on that - no-or-slow-growth prosperous (and happy etc.) societies.

So we have this momentous geopolitical struggle right now to determine the next few centuries global polities in which we have a multipolarity sovereignty movement continuing the positive aspects of the Westphalian nation states which also feature the notion of liberty along with respect for bedrock Law between consenting parties on the one hand versus the unipolar credit cartel system which pretends to do the same but actually is a sucker for plunder, as karlof1 has eloquently laid out. It makes sense and all that but there is little in-depth discussion about what it all really means, how it might work - on both sides. Too much is hidden. Always.

So part of what is needed is a return to and respect for simplicity, truth, honor, kindness, compassion. If we could just do that, the snake now in a knot would quite naturally untangle itself - (old analogy for how meditation works).

Things should be simple and easy to understand. And we should know what the rules are, why they are, how things work. And basically it should be able to fit on one page.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 3:54 utc | 154

Its breathtaking how easy it is to make terror attacks against objects and people on Russian held territory. I cant remember any military conflict in the last 30-40 years where so many objects had been blown up. The message is quite clear: "Russia cant protect their new citizens!" Its a certificate of poverty what

Posted by: Chessmaster | Aug 17 2022 3:55 utc | 155

Below is a quote from a ZH piece titled

The Russian Fat Lady Getting Ready To Sing For The LBMA

LBM = London Bullion Market Association

The quote


It is necessary to create a new international standard of the precious metals market - Moscow World Standard (MWS), which will become an alternative to the standard of the London Bullion Market Association (LBMA), the Ministry of Finance of Russia said in a letter July 28th.

The letter of the Ministry of Finance to industry participants says that "independent international infrastructure" is needed to "normalize the functioning of the precious metals industry." According to the agency, it is "critically necessary" to create it, RIA Novosti reports.

In the "fundament of the structure" it is proposed to "put a specialized international precious metal exchange headquartered in Moscow" using the "new international standard MWS". It is also proposed to establish a Price Fixing Committee. Subject to the application of the MWS standard, it will include Central Banks and the largest banks of the EAEU countries represented in the precious metals market.

According to the Russian department, it is necessary to "rely on fixing prices in the national currencies of the key participating countries, or on new units of international settlements, such as the new unit of settlements proposed by the President of Russia within the framework of the member countries of the BRICS organization."

The Ministry of Finance wants to make membership in this organization attractive to all foreign market participants, especially China, India, Venezuela, Peru and other countries of South America, as well as Africa. The agency expects that such a step will quickly destroy the LBMA monopoly and ensure the stable development of the industry.

A multi-polar world will require a multi-polar system of finance where monopolies do not exist around the exchange of precious metals, in this case, and more broadly, all commodities.

Building the foundation of a multi-polar world, one "transparent" brick at a time.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2022 3:56 utc | 156

Yep. As soon as I entered this thread about foreign trophies on display at Army 22…. I knew, just knew, …..and here it is.
One of the 20 Bushmasters Zelensky requested when he addressed the Australian Parliament way back when his kaki tee was new.
Russians With Attitude. A Brtish Saxon, an Australian Bushmaster, various Ukrainian armored vehicles.
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1559551982951694336

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 4:10 utc | 157

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 4:10 utc | 158

These days Mel we need to ask who authorised their dispatch - the sworn Minister for Defence or the probable secret Minister that we do not know about yet!!!

If Scummo also was Minister for Defence, we may need international assistance to put down Herr Dutton's rage.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 17 2022 4:18 utc | 158

While psychohistorian offers up bricks of gold, let me share a Mandate of Heaven related piece from the Qing Dynasty. Actually I was looking for another set of Edicts from 7th Century Tibet but couldn't find them online. That one also had 16 items so I suspect this is a derivative.

"Introduction
The “Sacred Edict” was a set of moral and governmental instructions promulgated by imperial authority for use in
local rituals conducted throughout the Qing empire. The Edict was promulgated by the Kangxi emperor (r. 1662-
1722) and revised to its current form of Sixteen Maxims by his son, the Yongzheng emperor (r. 1723-1735). The Edict
would be recited regularly at village lectures, which were a form of moral instruction initiated by the Ming emperor
Hongwu but more systematically carried out by the Qing than by the Ming imperial government.


The Qing
Dynasty
“Sacred Edict”

1. Esteem most highly filial piety
and brotherly submission, in order to give due importance to human moral relations.
2. Behave with generosity
toward your kindred, in order to illustrate harmony
and benignity.
3. Cultivate peace and concord in your neighborhoods, in order to prevent quarrels and litigations.
4. Give importance to agriculture and sericulture, in order to ensure a sufficiency
of clothing
and food.
5. Show that you prize moderation and economy, in order to prevent the lavish waste of your means.
6. Foster colleges and schools, in order to give the training of scholars a proper start.
7. Do away with errant teachings, in order to exalt the correct doctrine.
8. Expound on the laws, in order to warn the ignorant and obstinate.
9. Explain ritual decorum and deference, in order to enrich manners and customs.
10. Attend to proper callings, in order to stabilize the people’s sense of
dedication [to their work].
11. Instruct sons and younger brothers, in order to prevent them from doing what is wrong.
12. Put a stop to false accusations, in order to protect the honest and good.
13. Warn against sheltering deserters, in order to avoid being involved in their punishment.
14. Promptly
remit your taxes, in order to avoid being pressed for payment.
15. Combine in collective security
 groups (baojia), in order to put an end to theft and robbery.
16. Eschew enmity and anger, in order to show respect for the person and life.

+++++++++++++++++++++

Obviously from a different culture and a different era, but a lot can be spelled out in a page or so. Alot. A geopolitical world order could have sections with one or more items on:

Sovereignty
Agreements
Disagreements
Money
Law
Cultivating the Good
Definition of prosperity and well-being in sovereign nation context
Agreed common principles for member states: state-funded healthcare and schools, military service, welfare etc.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 4:21 utc | 159

Beautiful.

It's a Damn Shame that:

A) The Oligarchic Corruption across the Board are getting worse; and the Plutarchy+Vassal_Oligarchs lack the Conscientiousness to consider taking a more Ethical Path. FDR once prevented Riots across Murica - this "You will own Nothing, eat Crickets, have your Children be forced to take Sex_Hormone-Altering Drugs at Grammer School, and 'Be Happy'" Show will End VERY Quickly and Violently.

DarkWeb Must have some DeadPool Odds on the WEF/Davos Crew. I figure that Hariri Pencil-Neck would be one of the first to be Roasted Alive like a Cricket-on-a-Stick.

Something tells me Krampus Klaus isn't going to Die from Natural Causes, EITHER.

Soros-Schwartz already called for a Regime Change in CHN. Figure once he goes Active and starts supplying DPP with Anti-Beijing Schoolbooks like he did with the UKRoNazi (I'm expecting Donbass Vigilante on this), Soros-Schwartz and his Foundations will marked for Hunting with Bounties.

Will someone give out the DeadPool Odds? Just curious. I won't be in Murica much longer; and hopefully I'll relocate to where Zionist-Mason Racketeering aren't Tolerated.

B) There aren't many "Neutral" European/FarEastern G20 Level Nation-States...

I was counting on SWE/FIN/CHE to stay Neutral and crossing my fingers on DEU+NOR to leave NATO and Boot Out Murican Troops.

Shit Happens; and the World Turns.

Posted by: IronForge | Aug 17 2022 4:29 utc | 160

One thing I don't understand about Michael Hudson's ranting about the evils of a rentier economy (the landlords, bankers and monopolists extracting economic rent without producing real value) is that he never discusses the effect of property taxes, inheritance taxes and capital gains taxes on reducing intergenerational transfers of wealth.

It seems that the real "evil" of a rentier economy is wealth being passed from one generation of a family to the next, not simply that when someone creates wealth through innovation that he makes some money from the economic rent of his newly created wealth.

Just because I create a product that makes me a profit, doesn't make it evil if I buy property with this profit and make rent from it. The "evil" from this is if my descendants profit from my toil - like the ne'er-do-well's (toffs in the UK) who never create anything but make money from the toil of their ancesters.

The right level of taxation in the UK (as an example) has reduced the number of ne'er-do-wells (toffs) over the past 100 years, and inherited wealth is no longer important. You can see this in historical dramas about English Lords needing to marry heiresses to keep their lands :) (i.e. Downton Abbey)

Note that the descendants of Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan and Vanderbilt aren't rich today. The rich today are Musk, Gates, Bezos, etc. who actually created things. Their descendants won't be rich - it all gets eventually taxed away.

Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Aug 17 2022 4:38 utc | 161

How would you like it if tomorrow someone takes pot shots at a nuclear power plant near you, using Russian-supplied weapons?
That is the can of worms we have opened.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 17 2022 4:52 utc | 162

Scorpion | Aug 17 2022 1:20 utc | 132

Agree. As far as war goes, Putin is leaps and bounds above any leader of this century or the last. And war has sadly been the focus of so many countries around the world.
As far as peace goes, I respect the achievements of Xi.
My country has most people believing that a properly working democracy is the key to Nirvana which for some reason it never achieves, meanwhile it goes about wrecking other countries.

Posted by: HelenB | Aug 17 2022 5:02 utc | 163

In response to
"
The right level of taxation in the UK (as an example) has reduced the number of ne'er-do-wells (toffs) over the past 100 years, and inherited wealth is no longer important. You can see this in historical dramas about English Lords needing to marry heiresses to keep their lands :) (i.e. Downton Abbey)

Note that the descendants of Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan and Vanderbilt aren't rich today. The rich today are Musk, Gates, Bezos, etc. who actually created things. Their descendants won't be rich - it all gets eventually taxed away.

Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Aug 17 2022 4:38 utc | 162
"

I am going to call BS on your claim of inherited wealth not being important, it gets taxed away and note that you claim Musk, Gates and Bezos are the rich today.

While it has been noted before at MoA what a joke the Fortune 500 is because it does not base its wealth accumulation on trust funds...where is the world's 500 largest trust funds and who owns them reporting?
Since the 12 regional US Fed banks are privately owned, does that mean their ownership is divided between the three newbie potential oligarchs you mentioned? How about the BIS and SWIFT?/snark
What about Pope Frank and his organization's wealth? Perhaps Pope Frank is just one of the easy to identify ongoing members of the God of Mammon cult you are here to hide from others.

Obfuscate much? Not at this bar if I can help it.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 17 2022 5:10 utc | 164

I find it beyond belief that the Ukrainian soldiers actually carrying out the NPP shellings don't comprehend how suicidally dumb the idea is. This is insanity beyond those terrorists who strapped on bomb vests in the ME.

... Or perhaps someone else is doing it and everyone is being kept in the dark. American "technical consultants", anyone?

Posted by: caal | Aug 17 2022 5:31 utc | 165

don't comprehend how suicidal dumb the idea is
caal | Aug 17 2022 5:31 utc | 166

They were exploding chemical plants since the first month. It's not less suicidal. At the first one they failed, they forgot to check the wind and it was going towards them. Then they started exploding when the wind was going towards Donbass.
Large part of them are brainwashed retards, not even nazis, the others were promised something, like escape or money or not being shot in the head. Just remember that a few thousand nazis and nato "instructors" are controlling the entire Ukr army. A minimum of 100k dead already because Bojo and Vicky said so.

Yesterday retard Podolyak announced for Guardian they will destroy Crimea bridge. And that absolutely no himars was lost. I'm sure he is right about one himars working, they used it to shoot at apartments, for fun.

Posted by: rk | Aug 17 2022 6:49 utc | 166

Scorpion #123

Do you think this Synarchist International is real or misinformation? Wikipedia returns so much verbiage I cannot even begin to follow it so gave up quickly! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synarchism

Using andisearch.com with the term Synarchist International
Yields a wealth of reading.

Wikipedia is for the trolls and I respect your posts and you do not have troll attributes. Avoid wikipedia, it is designed to gag your mouth and brain.

Synarchist International seems to be a term derived from syndicalism and mongrelised to accomodatebankers etc...

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 17 2022 6:51 utc | 167

Moscow Army 22 international weapon sales show.
Is there a connection between the peacock display of foreign battlefield trophies and Zelensky sacking of senior SBU in several cities in the past few days??
The dismissal of his friend and head of intell, I surmised, was linked to the Russian strike on the meeting of Ukrainian and NATO at an airforce HQ in Vinnytsia?
So now a luminous M777 is ostentatiously displayed in Moscow. Presumably identifying details on show? If so…. It can be traced back through the chain to when it arrived and where it was transported?
Have heads rolled because of this Ruskie PR stunt. ?
We know winning the PR war is *way* more important to Kiev/ Washington/ London than actual battlefield success.
Presumably a *lot* of palms had to feel the press of hard cash for that M777 to make a show stealing appearance.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 17 2022 6:55 utc | 168

Posted by: T Paine | Aug 16 2022 23:17 utc | 101

You clearly know little of geopolitics if you think UK was "Biden's mouthpiece". Just as Blair egged on George W Bush in Iraq and was instrumental in forcing the pace, so Johnson has taken advantage of a vacuum in the Oval Office to seize the initiative on Ukraine.

Britain has a debilitated military top-heavy with senior ranks and competition between Navy (SSBNs plus flat-tops) and RAF F-35s......leaving the Army with remnants of failed projects like FRES and Ajax and desperate for funds. It has sought new activities after the disaster in Helmand and Iraq.

Johnson destroyed the negotiations in Turkey forcing Z into more extreme positions - now he has walked away and is vacationing permanently.

UK was tied into EU structures until BreXit - THEN it flipped NATO to be superior to EU Commission and made EU a Sub-Committee of NATO. That is what Norbert Roettgen in the Bundestag feared and wanted an agreement to bind UK. - but Macron behaved like a spoiled brat and fouled things up.

UK is deliberately inciting Poland plus Baltics to antagonise Russia and inflame the eU fissures to render Germany neutered. With Habeck and Baerbock working to collapse the German export machine UK is on the way to success

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:04 utc | 169

Yenwoda #135

If you enjoyed that twitter link then you might just reach excited puppy at History Legends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT8woUCiKUo

Solid analysis and discussion of battlefield developments here.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 17 2022 7:04 utc | 170

@NoNewsHere and some others...

The take you've been advancing seems like a very naive and procrustean Marxist analysis. As Roger noted, it sounds like a classic Trotskyite screed.

In fact, the communist canon has developed quite a bit to incorporate an understanding of a) how nations and nationalities matter and b) how class struggle manifests at the international level. In short, struggles for national sovereignty and autonomy are manifestations of class struggle. Indeed, many argue that the struggle against western imperialism is the primary aspect of the class struggle in the present era. Stalin's writings on the National Question, Mao, and post Mao Marxism Leninism are particularly relevant here.

Posted by: TheRealGabeShady | Aug 17 2022 7:11 utc | 171

"The right level of taxation in the UK (as an example) has reduced the number of ne'er-do-wells (toffs) over the past 100 years, and inherited wealth is no longer important. You can see this in historical dramas about English Lords needing to marry heiresses to keep their lands :) (i.e. Downton Abbey)

Whoever wrote this is deluded ! Fantasy TV like Downton Abbey by Jonathan Fellowes as "history" ?????????? What kind of person thinks TV fantasy and costume porn is factual ?

The Duke of Westminster.........go read up on this Grosvenor Family....The Grosvenor family became established in England before the 15th century, on the manor of Eaton in Cheshire, where is still located its principal seat, Eaton Hall. Many of the family's early members sat as the Member of Parliament for Chester.

Still very very rich.

The same families which owned Central London in 17th Century own it today.

Taxes simply affected the middle classes - the Seriously Rich are tax-privileged.

Do you really think the richest families do not have offshore trusts ? Randolph Churchill married a rich American because he was the second son without the title and estate - he was a philanderer and her US father was a gambler. Their son Winston Spencer - used his father's hyphenated "Spencer-Churchill" fraud to make himself a Churchill descendant from the male line rather than the female line - by dropping the hyphen.

Winston Spencer was PM in wartime Britain. He was from the same branch of the family as the late-wife of Prince Charles. Funnily enough earl Spencer inherited Althorp and has kept it despite 3 divorces

The RICH always keep their money and devise taxation to stop the mIddle Class from joining them

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:12 utc | 172

Note that the descendants of Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan and Vanderbilt aren't rich today.

Another deluded soul !!!

I think you will find Rockefeller Family is by any definition very rich in 2022 !

I think you might find J P Morgan;s descendants very rich on each side of the Atlantic !

How do the Misinformed get to confidently spread fake information ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:17 utc | 173

Cheney is now the eighth of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump following the January 6, the Capitol attack. Four have opted not to seek reelection, and four more have lost GOP primaries. Two more to go.

Well, the Orange man is not a good one, but its better to have a fool at the US helm, than a demented mean guy -- those with one leg in the grave always try to take others with them.😋

Posted by: rp | Aug 17 2022 7:22 utc | 174

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:17 utc | 174
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And, how rich is Zelensky, also a Jew, who as usual managed to hoodwink the Slavs.

Posted by: RK | Aug 17 2022 7:25 utc | 175

is this ?
philosophy blog ?
Would have, would, could, should, one theory follows the other. Everyone knows something or thinks they know something without any proof!
Would have, would, must, could, would, without any background knowledge, all suspect but all insist on being right.
In principle, exactly what is happening outside in the media is happening here. Give the crowd (mob) a cue and watch the mob tear apart, everyone knows something!
But everyone knows nothing !!
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It is eagerly discussed, suspected, claimed partly totally meaningless according to textbooks or articles from the mainstream, partly fantasy or dreams of knowledge, the reality... the truth in the system is lost sight of, but... The mob has a Topic that whoever pretends here?

Posted by: mac999 | Aug 17 2022 7:28 utc | 176

Puppets are starting to bite each other:

Poland has accused Berlin of territorial claims.
"The return of the lands currently within the Polish borders is a strategic goal of Germany," said Adam Glapiński, chairman of the board of the National Bank of Poland. According to him, this will happen if the former prime minister and ex-chairman of the European Council, Donald Tusk, comes to power in Poland.

Posted by: rk | Aug 17 2022 7:31 utc | 177

Well in days of GDR and Polish Communist State the town of Goerlitz split in half since 1945 was divided by a river with no bridge. It was blown07 May 1945 and not rebuilt until EU funded it 2006 to permit people to cross from Zgorzelec to Goerlitz

So whatever fantasies Warsaw entertains that bridge lets Poles go to Germany to work and creates unemployment for Germans even as far as Bautzen

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:46 utc | 178

I did not know those details. Thanks

Posted by: rk | Aug 17 2022 7:55 utc | 179

@scorpion (15)

>>But if 'the US' is not Sauron but merely the Captain of the wraiths, then who or what is?

This is what makes this war so interesting. More and more of the western empires deep Structure comes to light. China/Russia seem to be able hit the very core of it. Observations: the US never got rid of the british Empire. Not sure if Sauron sits openly on the throne though.

Posted by: glorbas | Aug 17 2022 7:56 utc | 180

Gorbachev even offered to give East Prussia back to Germany in 1989-90!
But Kohl refused to keep the peace with Poland! And back then, Poland couldn't have done anything about it!
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https://www.kulturforum.info/de/news-und-tipps/4888-1017046-moskau-hat-deutschland-ostpreussen-rueckgabe-angeboten

Posted by: mac999 | Aug 17 2022 7:59 utc | 181

is this ?
philosophy blog ?
Give the crowd (mob) a cue and watch the mob tear apart, everyone knows something!
But everyone knows nothing !!
.
It is eagerly discussed, suspected, claimed partly totally meaningless according to textbooks or articles from the mainstream, partly fantasy or dreams of knowledge, the reality... the truth in the system is lost sight of, but... The mob has a Topic that whoever pretends here?

Posted by: mac999 | Aug 17 2022 7:28 utc | 177
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Well, isn't it exactly that?!
Most have never been to Russia or Ukraine, doesn't speak either languages. Most live in the "unfriendly" countries and hope that their governments fail...with the help of the SMO in the Ukraine -- some sort of masochism.

Posted by: RK | Aug 17 2022 8:02 utc | 182

I am waiting for the ebay ad for a new - box opened never used M777 with a BIN price of 10$

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 17 2022 8:04 utc | 183

Pity there wasn't a HIMARS on display. That would have really put the wind up some people.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Aug 17 2022 8:06 utc | 184

Gepostet von: RK | 17. August 2022 8:02 UTC | 183
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Probably true !
I was in Russia for about 12 years, mainly in the Ukraine and, for professional reasons at the time, in every, every nuclear power plant there.
If we were then recognized as Germans, it was a matter of time before the SS and Hitler's Galicia Division became an issue...in almost every house you could find pictures of medals and symbols.
Here, speculation is discussed without even having a clue about the mentality of the Russians, sanctions weld the Russians together... "The West" has always been the unpleasant enemy for Russian workers, workers could not vacation in Bavaria or Make Monaco, workers in Russia are 95% behind Putin !!!

Posted by: mac999 | Aug 17 2022 8:10 utc | 185

Larouche;

The group were seriously tied up with the BRI. Several meetings in China to discuss, it is even possible that they were the originators of the BRI idea.
I have a book, with plans diagrams etc, of future routes for the BRI - (which I cannot put my hand on at the moment... as usual, filing things is not my strong point). Thanks to the Schiller institute as well for the publication.

This is probably why Larouche has been suppressed, and bad mouthed, wherever possible in the US.
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Their political party in France is "Solidarité et progrès". Small but has interesting Meetings (virtuel).
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The seriously rich do not keep riches in "Banks", (even if they own them.)
Tax minimilization is a way of life.
Think of tax-free "foundations" and "charities", as only ONE way to hide power.

a....and it is power, rather than mere money that define the "Rich and powerful". If the Dollar, the Euro and the Pound sink below the waves, then "title" to land and asset ownership, (Mines, etc) has almost certainly been assured as an their alternative.*1*

(Create a foundation and then give yourself a salary - which is only pocket money, that is "taxed", and then hire a mass of specialists in tax "avoidance". Which incidentally is not a crime in the UK, if you find a legal loophole, then you have the "right" to use it.
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*1* One guy, Heskith, (Owns Towcester horse racing circuit, the nearby "palace", and who tried to build racing cars), had assets consisting of Oil wells, a "Ranch" (large land holding) in Patagonia for the water rights (Bush has the same), among other titles to provide the delicacies on his table.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 17 2022 8:31 utc | 186

Posted by: mac999 | Aug 17 2022 8:10 utc | 186
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So, you have been to 3 of them, Khmelnytskyi, Rovne and Zaporozhia? Two fo which are actually in Bandera-love areas. The area around Zaporozhia too is sort of Bandera-love area, even though it is under RF forces now.

Posted by: RK | Aug 17 2022 8:33 utc | 187

caal #166

I find it beyond belief that the Ukrainian soldiers actually carrying out the NPP shellings don't comprehend how suicidally dumb the idea is. This is insanity beyond those terrorists who strapped on bomb vests in the ME.

... Or perhaps someone else is doing it and everyone is being kept in the dark. American "technical consultants", anyone?

Englanders are doing it. They seem to be the key directors in this Uke battlefield hierarchy. They really don't give a shit what happens to Russia/Uke as long as the granary of the east cannot export no more. The eastern granary is in competition with the UKUSA controlled grain market.

Remember 'f#ck the EU' is the mantra right now.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 17 2022 8:42 utc | 188

For a moment, imagine that US directed Zelensky's forces can shell Zaporozhia NPP correctly. Then, one can forget living in Kiev itself, or in Lvov. The Germans can forget about living in Berlin too.

The only thing that saves the Europe is that the war criminals, demented Joe or Zelly can't correctly shell it.

Posted by: rp | Aug 17 2022 9:13 utc | 189

bevin @ 152

Just reading through the comments and I wanted to chime in on this one: Canada was forced into NAFTA - on terms dictated by others more so than domestic ones. That was the major shift towards neoliberalism, I think? I did read that Canadian powers-that-be recognized a growing move towards isolationism in the USA, and the NAFTA agreement was a way to mitigate that. Or to prepare for it. Today, it’s near impossible to “isolate” and Buy-America, at expense of its neighbours. The economies of North America are intertwined — but that came with some ugly concessions.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 17 2022 9:14 utc | 190

Just to add to uncle tungsten’s comment “The eastern granary is in competition with the UKUSA controlled grain market.”

This implies localized state control indirectly, and I think it might be helpful to name the private corporations who monopolize grain trading (agricultural commodity trading). Known as the ABCD firms, they are ADM, Bunge, Cargill and Louis-Dreyfus.

One link as a source among many others: https://canadianfoodstudies.uwaterloo.ca/index.php/cfs/article/download/84/105/622

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 17 2022 9:22 utc | 191

Just read Gleb Bazov (YURI war briefing) claiming that the Russians are using the "Brusilov" tactic from WWI.

This was to spread out the attacks from multiple directions, rather than concentrating troops for one thrust to break a fortified trench lineout. Here is the same type of situation again, now with artillery and aviation used massively against lines of fortifications.

This Brusilov "spreadeagle" stopped the enemy concentrating HIS reserve forces in WWI, leading to an eventual collapse of the entire front, as no single group was able to resist the advance of Russian forces. It led to the break-up of the Austro-Hungarian Front and almost the collapse of the Austrians (Who were only "saved" by the 1917 riots).

Putin knows his history as do Shoigu and the others.

Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 17 2022 9:29 utc | 192

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:12 utc | 173


The same families which owned Central London in 17th Century own it today.

No, trusts own Central London and dole out earnings to descendants who pay income tax on this. I know someone who benefits from the Howard de Walden Estate (the trust owning Marylebone) - this person gets about a million pounds per year from this trust, is a ne'er-de-well who loses this money on dumb investments, but he can't go broke. If there were a significant property tax on the land owned by this estate, the trust would go broke and eliminate parasitic rentiers like this person.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/03/inheritance-tax-loopholes-allowing-super-rich-to-pay-lower-rates

The basic problem is that inheritance tax is paid when someone dies. A trust never dies.

A much better system is annual property tax (and other taxes) without any inheritance tax, to eventually eliminate the rentier class in the UK. The elites in the UK have cobbled together this trust scam to maintain their descendants as a rentier class, and once the House of Lords is abolished, I suspect an annual property tax will solve the problem of the UK's having a rentier class leeching off the public.

In the US, the use of an annual property tax is what has reduced the rentier class and led to a more efficient use of land.

Posted by: Contrarian_Ed | Aug 17 2022 9:32 utc | 193

@Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Aug 17 2022 7:46 utc | 179

in days of GDR and Polish Communist State the town of Goerlitz split in half since 1945 was divided by a river with no bridge.

Your assumption is wrong. There was a bridge since May 1945.

Posted by: dustbunny | Aug 17 2022 9:48 utc | 194

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Posted by: rp | Aug 17 2022 9:53 utc | 195

... The 'we are all guilty' meme is a fallback of the oligarchs and part of the confidence trick of Identity Politics.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 16 2022 23:08 utc | 98

Agreed, there’s been an increasing level of Pleb Shaming of late, voters-get-the-government-they-deserve type of dross. The only reason to advance that class of argument is patronage.

How about we burn oligarchy to the ground first and argue amongst ourselves afterwards?

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 17 2022 10:03 utc | 196

Or write 'Армия-2022' in YT or RuTube to find more info vids on it. Армия-2022 would be there for 7 more days. You can also read here (in Russian)

And, watch live in Zvezda TV, https://rutube.ru/live/video/5ab908fccfac5bb43ef2b1e4182256b0/

Posted by: rp | Aug 17 2022 10:08 utc | 197

I suppose it's just chatter but I'll be looking for more evidence of UK boots on the ground in Ukr.

Posted by: T Paine | Aug 16 2022 23:17 utc | 101

I very much share your suspicions and interest in any relevant indicators. Someone’s firing high tech missiles, sabotaging in Crimea and mainland RF, target ZNPP. The canal of “Ukrainian” military action is gradually draining, we’re increasingly left with the unlikely refuse and evil-smelling sludge of Empire privateers.

Do please post anything you find.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 17 2022 10:12 utc | 198

Posted by: Patrick Constantine | Aug 16 2022 18:19 utc | 24

Poor you who came from the sewers to say so much idiocies..you could stay there together with the supporters of the former ukraine.You are the wrong side of history and lies won't help you.

Posted by: LuBa | Aug 17 2022 10:20 utc | 199

And, if you are in love with Kalashnikovs

Posted by: rp | Aug 17 2022 10:49 utc | 200

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