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July 17, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-112

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict ...

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Posted by b on July 17, 2022 at 12:20 UTC | Permalink

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Right now, the life support option looks like the cheapest and safest option for RF.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 18 2022 10:12 utc | 232

Agreed. But they have also made it clear, at least until now, that they are open to supplying Dland with gas so there is still a way out of impasse.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 19 2022 19:15 utc | 301



Q Mr. President, do you think it’s a good idea for Speaker Pelosi to travel to Taiwan this summer?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I — I think that — the military thinks it’s not a good idea right now, but I don’t know what the status of it is.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/07/20/remarks-by-president-biden-after-air-force-one-arrival-5/

Posted by: too scents | Jul 21 2022 7:50 utc | 302

Patrick Lancaster twitter account replies to questions about his whereabouts:
https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/status/1550130345604853765 .

That means that is not him replying and he is not fine.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jul 21 2022 17:02 utc | 303

People living in the recently liberated LPR town of Belogorovka are calling on Russian forces to hold the Kiev regime accountable for its crimes against them. See the video below.

A symbol of hope | RT visits a town on the front line:

https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/ukraine-hope:5

Posted by: Nate | Jul 22 2022 1:02 utc | 304

In an interview with the Dutch daily Algemeen Dagblad (pay wall) Thurs July 21, the Dutch deputy minister of Defense Christophe van der Maat admitted they are scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of supplying Ukraine with materiel. He is being roundly criticized by domestic and foreign spokesmen for the impolitic admission.

“Our military stockpiles are running out: ‘If the Russians were to invade, we could only fight for a couple of days.’
Finally there is more money for the military. Deputy minister of Defense Christophe van der Maat must nonetheless admit that actual ammunition and equipment will demand years of patience. ‘The impact on us will only increase’.”

https://www.ad.nl/politiek/voorraden-van-defensie-raken-op-als-de-russen-binnenvallen-kunnen-we-paar-dagen-meedoen~a49271aa/

See also https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/21/dutch-military-reaching-limits-can-give-ukraine

Posted by: Webej | Jul 22 2022 4:38 utc | 305

‘If the Russians were to invade, we could only fight for a couple of days.’

Yes van der Maat, you've been freeloading on the rest of us forever. Time to divert rapefugee bob to defend your usurious little cuntry.

Posted by: CommiesGOFY | Jul 22 2022 12:39 utc | 306

Sanctions don’t work when you sanction everyone, the snarky “you will never own a iPhone” shows how out to lunch the sanction kings are. We won’t have food or fuel but we will have super expensive luxury phones.
The west thinks wants outweigh needs and it’s an absolute failure of an attitude to have.
Winning a war of attrition against people with cheap fuel and food is a tough thing to do.

Fighting has started to escalate in Syria/Iraq with Turkey Russia and Israel all being involved.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/22/civilians-killed-in-russian-air-attack-on-syrias-idlib

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syrias-air-defences-confront-israeli-attack-over-capital-damascus-state-media-2022-07-21/


Libya is now starting to ramp it up.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/fighting-rips-through-libyan-capital-killing-13/articleshow/93058889.cms

Posted by: OhhCanada | Jul 22 2022 20:19 utc | 307

In the Russia MoD briefings, they at one point Pointed out that US held more small pox virus and in sites not agreed to under the bio weapons convention. Small pox virus has been eradicated from the world and only exists in laboratories registers at the UN under that convention. All US diplomats and military are vaccinated for smallpox.

The smallpox vaccine is also the vaccine for monkey pox. Russia MoD also mentioned the outbreak of monkey pox.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-24/monkeypox-who-declares-global-emergency/101264482
Monkeypox declared global emergency by World Health Organization after surge in cases

WHO's top monkeypox expert, Dr. Rosamund Lewis, said last week that 99 per cent of all the monkeypox cases beyond Africa were in men and that of those, 98 per cent involved men who have sex with men.

Experts suspect the monkeypox outbreaks in Europe and North America were spread via sex at two raves in Belgium and Spain.


If there are calls for mass vaccination anywhere in the west, it's a sure bet US intend using smallpox as a weapon in this hybrid Great Game that is now underway.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 23 2022 19:40 utc | 308

Followup on my own post 305: Patrick Lancaster posted a new video. So it was a false alert and someone needs to explain to him how to deal with this type of uncertainty.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jul 24 2022 12:51 utc | 309

Lancaster is back. my guess is the Russians are going to try to make a push for him to report on.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Jul 25 2022 12:39 utc | 310

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