While the Saker site may be down, the RF MOD keeps on tankin’ along.
Military Summery had a great map yesterday showing the Ukrainian forces deployed against the DPR. Formidable to say the least. For those who question the why, watch the vid, it explains the reason. Will be late Nov, around the US Primaries, before that operation is closed.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 8 2022 15:22 utc | 4

I don’t have any warnings that saker is officialy cenzored by state here but site can’t be opened.
I guess in august Ukraine is planning counter-offensive. There are some rumors and Z-elensky announced he will not talk with P.utin untill august. If so this could not be a secret in Kremlin and the result could not be different than of all their previous military operations.

Posted by: Alef | Jul 8 2022 15:24 utc | 6

Canada returns one hostage Siemens turbine (i thought it was the compressor…) to Germany
https://www.euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/canada-to-return-nord-stream-1-turbine-to-germany-in-blow-to-ukraine/
TTF (EU natgas) futures market reaction was mild so far, suggesting there are other unresolved issues. Dec-2022 feel slightly to around 170 Euro/MWh, but Q4-2023 rose to around 125… (compare to around 25 being a rough pre-crisis level based on production and transport economics)

Posted by: ptb | Jul 8 2022 15:49 utc | 8

Re: ptb, 15
The machine is a compressor, of axial flow. In other words: a turbine compressor.
It might be of Rolls-Royce persuasion . . . Siemens bought this contracting piece of business from them , per rt.ru
I asked this question under their article chronicling the subcontracting relations.

Posted by: LogosApplis | Jul 8 2022 16:08 utc | 10

@Down South | Jul 8 2022 15:17 utc | 9
Two Harpoon launchers sent by Bojo were exploded today near Odessa by a missile strike.
In May, zee Germanz arrested two of their soldiers who were stealing explosives from their own army and were preparing to go and explode the Crimea bridge.

Posted by: rk | Jul 8 2022 16:44 utc | 12

Isn’t it sort of neat the way the EU sanctions regime mirrors Napoleon’s continental system. Failure and blowback effects included. It almost looks as if humanity can learn nothing. And no I don’t think that blowing up the Crimean bridge would be a game changer. Unless it encouraged theRussians to flatten the Kiev parliament. Presumably it counts as a “decision centre”?

Posted by: BarclayDeTolly | Jul 8 2022 16:54 utc | 14

I would have thought there’s a reason why it hasn’t been tried.
Posted by: laguerre | Jul 8 2022 16:47 utc | 26
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Escalation dominance, especially in the realm of counter-sanctions that haven’t been applied yet.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 8 2022 16:57 utc | 16

@all
I just deleted 12 comments from different people which all said the same thing.
The website saker.is is currently offline.
It is sufficient that it was said once. There is no reason to further discuss it here.

Posted by: b | Jul 8 2022 17:12 utc | 18

Intel Slava has reported the second Ukrainian SS-300 system destroyed on the ground in two days by a small unit using machine guns. Things are wide open now

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 8 2022 17:16 utc | 20

So >500 nazis today? Not bad but days with 1k were better. Even more, since today was another shelling for fun in city areas using nato weapons.

Posted by: rk | Jul 8 2022 17:20 utc | 22

@ anna | Jul 8 2022 17:18 utc | 21
smoothiex12 on blogspot, just like his yt channel

Posted by: rk | Jul 8 2022 17:29 utc | 24

I see we’re back to problems posting RT links with comments. I’ve removed the link.
The bioweapon story continues, “Russia makes new Hunter Biden-related bio-lab claims: Moscow, citing a captured document, has claimed a Pentagon contractor was planning to study the deadly Ebola virus in Ukraine.”

According to the ministry, Metabiota, a Pentagon contractor, had previously participated in dealing with the aftermath of the Ebola epidemic in West Africa. However, the company’s main objective had supposedly been collecting “highly virulent” strains of the virus and transporting them to the US.
The Russian military went on to claim that, considering the “clear discrepancy” between Metabiota’s activities and the actual fight against the deadly disease, Jarbas Barbosa, then-assistant director of the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), which is a branch of the World Health Organization (WHO), had allegedly recommended that the firm’s staff be withdrawn. The official was supposedly concerned that cooperation with the US company would undermine the WHO’s reputation.
“Seeing that the disease is not endemic and, moreover, has never been identified in Ukraine, a logical question arises as to the necessity of such research and its true goals,” Russian Defense Ministry officials noted.
Moscow claims all of this is “part of the US strategy to transfer research of particularly dangerous pathogens to third countries.”
Russian officials have also suggested that American society should get acquainted with the story and possibly raise questions regarding the US government’s activities, which are apparently in breach of the Biological Weapons Convention. [My Emphasis]

IMO, it’s the great weaknesses in the Outlaw US Empire’s ability to defend its nation from modern weapons that’s behind the attempt to create bioweapons, although with Covid, we can see the great problems inherent with such a plan, which is why all such undertakings are deemed illegal. The level of immorality existing within the Outlaw US Empire and its great lack of credibility on all issues generates excellent grounds for high levels of global concern over this issue. With luck, other vital documents will escape destruction and provide further clarity. My own personal appraisal is that we should assume the worst intentions possible from the Outlaw US Empire and move on from there. If such assumptions prove unwarranted, then good. But they must be proven to be such beyond all doubt, which is something that, unfortunately, the Outlaw US Empire is incapable of providing because of its proven reputation as a serial liar.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 17:38 utc | 26

It doesn’t happen very often, but Peskov issued a clarification of Putin’s recent remarks as RT reported:

President Vladimir Putin’s observation that Russian troops in Ukraine “haven’t even really started anything yet” simply states that Moscow is far superior in its military strength, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov clarified on Friday.
On Thursday, Putin dared Western leaders who seek Russia’s defeat on the battlefield in Ukraine to deliver on the threat. “Let them try. We haven’t even really started anything yet,” he claimed.
The president “simply reminded [his audience] that the military potentials [of Ukraine and Russia] were incommensurable,” Peskov said.
“Russian strength is so vast that only a small fraction of it is engaged in the special military operation,” the official said.
Western expectations that Ukraine can defeat Russia militarily are “absurd and only add to the suffering of the Ukrainian people,” he added. [My Emphasis]

IMO, Peskov’s statement isn’t a corrective like those issued for Biden’s many gaffs. Rather, it’s a reiteration of Putin’s words for the West in case they were missed/ignored the first time. It good to see RT finally following the Kremlin’s narrative instead of continuing its fence-sitting position:

The US and its allies have declared as their goal in Ukraine a strategic defeat of Russia and are providing weapons and training to Kiev forces. Top Western officials have stated that Ukraine will be able to beat Russia on the battlefield with their help.
The Ukrainian government agreed and broke peace talks with Russia, which took place during the first month of the conflict. Moscow believes that Kiev was pressured into its uncompromising position by its Western backers.
Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 17:50 utc | 28

Part of war trophies, Lysychansk https://t.me/sashakots/34229

Posted by: ostro | Jul 8 2022 18:10 utc | 30

Robert Bridge at Strategic Culture talks about Russia opposing liberalism. He’s right but I think that he misunderstands what liberalism is, perhaps because he is part of it.
The problem is that most people see only the surface foliage, the Pride parades, the TERF wars, secular education even the titanic struggle over the rights of frightened teenage girls, a period or two later… The list of issues-most irrelevant, some irrational and others medieaval- is long and familiar. But that isn’t what liberalism is about.
The liberalism that Russia, and China are rejecting is the capitalist system and the imperialist form that it has developed over the past five centuries. The capitalism that denies the possibility of human control of the economy and the imperialism that insists that civilisation can only flourish by devouring the lives and wealth of the weak, both of them aspects of cannibalism and diabolism.
Bridge goes some way towards examining the roots of what some people call Cultural Marxism. And he points out that it has very little to do with Marx.
“….Although it is a very difficult exercise trying to pin down exactly what a ‘liberal’ is, for our purposes here the term applies to that group critical thinkers from the so-called Frankfurt School – Marxist mind massagers like Adorno, Marcuse, Horkheimer and Fromm – who arrived to America’s sunny shores in the early 20th century is great despair. Despite their name, these academics were much more influenced by the psychological tinkering of the psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud and his view on repression and sexuality as opposed to the author of Das Kapital, Karl Marx and his dream of a classless society…
“https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/07/08/russia-on-the-front-lines-of-the-great-anti-liberal-war/
In fact the Frankfurt School returned to Germany in the baggage of the US Army as part of the CIA’s urgent campaign against socialism in all forms but the parodies it sponsored.
https://orinocotribune.com/the-cia-the-frankfurt-schools-anti-communism/

Posted by: bevin | Jul 8 2022 18:16 utc | 32

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 17:50 utc | 27
Yes, Putin is a bit of a macho man and as the ‘Collective West’ meme gathers strength in the East and the Global South, Putin needs to cool down and not give the enemy easy propaganda weapons to use against Russia. I think it’s only now that the Russians are getting a better handle on total nature of censorship in the West.

Posted by: Barofsky | Jul 8 2022 18:26 utc | 34

Posted by: Objective Observer | Jul 8 2022 18:30 utc | 34
I should not have said “most other parts of the world” when describing racist systems and tropes. That is an overstatement, but the same racist systems and tropes are re-created in some other parts of the world, i.e., European countries (including Ukraine) and some Latin American countries that internalized European/American racist ideas.

Posted by: Objective Observer | Jul 8 2022 18:42 utc | 36

smoothiex12 on blogspot
today’s article was chilling
So, the big news today, of course, is this:
“Sevmash” handed over to the Russian Navy the submarine “Belgorod”, which will be the first carrier of “Poseidons”
Obviously, Poseidon, together with a number of other Russia’s serial produced weapons such as Avangard or Zircon–you know, the ones Western media called cartoons in 2018–worry the United States and there have been several attempts to “limit” the development and now the procurement of such weapons under different pretexts, including arms limitations talks.
The first thing, of course, is the use of “70 knots per hour” which is cringe-worthy because a knot IS a measure of speed and it is a nautical mile per hour. Used in knots per hour is more a description of acceleration (and old way of saying it) than of speed. Secondly, nobody but Russians know the degree of autonomy of Poseidon and Russia is not the country which takes such issues lightly.
No matter how such an event will be spun by Western “journos”, one has to keep in mind that Poseidon, while capable of wiping out huge segments of the coast by creating a monstrous tsunami–some say up to 500 meters high–its existence has profound ramifications for any fleet which would decide to travel as a formation, a precise way Carrier Battle Groups travel, because they become merely sitting ducks for such a weapon. Obviously modern means of detection and targeting on Poseidon, most likely, allow to use this huge vehicle as a carrier of a huge conventional warhead capable to sink, by detonating under the keel, any type of ship, including US Navy’s CVNs. And it cannot be intercepted by modern ASW weapons due to a huge speed and an extreme difficulty of detecting it, especially when traveling at the depth of 1+ kilometer and surfacing only for the strike.
I refrained from posting the link to avoid disrupting the thread

Posted by: ld | Jul 8 2022 18:46 utc | 38

Posted by: Barofsky | Jul 8 2022 18:26 utc | 33
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Russians are not that interested in the western propaganda, knowing very well that this western propaganda doesn’t work at all in the Global South. They are not even trying to counter the western propaganda, most times laughing at it, lately even Putin had chimed in with that, “try if you can” line.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 8 2022 18:55 utc | 40

“End quote. Repeat the line”. https://youtu.be/Ynxc4KHqAuQ
US President Biden again decided to read the teleprompter at a speech at the White House.
Maybe, its time to kick Biden out?😋

Posted by: ostro | Jul 8 2022 19:09 utc | 42

@disorder
The optics of killing millions of Ukies in a Twitter world is not something Russia wants to do. They are walking a fine line. The paid US,UK,and Canadian Soldiers fighting the Internet war do not actually change the fact that the majority of people don’t hate Russians. Destroying entire cities full of women and children with planes is a hard sell and a last resort. Plus Russia is destroying all of the euro economy and is in no rush to wrap this up.

Posted by: OhhCanada | Jul 8 2022 19:12 utc | 44

Posted by bevin july 8 /31
Do I missunderstand you, don´t Russia and China reject only the capitalism that has developed since the rentiercapitalism/the financialized capitalism started, and they think that the capitalism that started with industrialism was good, and even progressive? As I understand Russia and China intend to build up a capitalism with state-planned economy, the production in the society has to be good for the whole society, and not as in the US (and more and more in the EU) a fincialized capitalism without production that is only good for the 1%. But neither China and Russia intend to abolish the full private ownership rights of the production.

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jul 8 2022 19:18 utc | 46

If war is an instrument of politics, then it makes sense that how the war is conducted and at what cost is also an instrument of politics. That Putin is able to conduct the war at “greater than necessary” cost of Russian lives, without political cost (so far) is an indicator of the trust the Russian people have in his judgement.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 8 2022 19:27 utc | 48

@41 Paul Greenwood
ah, thanks. Looking that up, seems a descendant of the established Rolls Royce product line… Doesn’t seem like a particularly exceptional piece of equipment

Posted by: ptb | Jul 8 2022 19:46 utc | 50

The website saker.is is currently offline.
It is sufficient that it was said once. There is no reason to further discuss it here.
Posted by: b | Jul 8 2022 17:12 utc | 18

Heavy artillery was deployed against the site. Pepe Escobar forwards the urgent Saker message requesting help from IT security specialists.

The Saker blog has been under attack for many months, but we kept it quiet. Our webmaster and sysadmin Herb has successfully beat back all the attacks, but now the enemy has upped both the scale and nature of the attack and we are barely hanging on.
Urgent request:
If you are an IT security specialist (or you can contact one you know) and you think that you, or your company, can help, please contact at the following email as soon as possible: saker-webmaster{at}yandex.com
We will keep you updated on the old blog’s site here: “>http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Ricardo Ramirez | Jul 8 2022 19:57 utc | 52

I wonder at what point the Empire of Chaos will target the ICANN itself to block all Russian dot coms and assorted domains.

Posted by: Ricardo Ramirez | Jul 8 2022 20:09 utc | 54

@ Gruff-ster
Regarding the threats to take out the Kerch bridge, how do you think Russia might respond? Might they reply in kind by taking out a bridge near a decision center — inside Ukraine or in a country that supplies weapons? How would HATO respond?
Please speculate away. This is a bar, after all.

Posted by: dfg | Jul 8 2022 20:17 utc | 56

Ricardo Ramirez @52–
One thing the Outlaw US Empire wants to prevent is giving the world ample reason to put another internet into place using non-US soft and hardware. A number of nations, however, are doing just that to insulate their national security from Outlaw cyber attack–Iran, Russia, China, and India are in the vanguard of that process. In like manner, the world doesn’t want to incur the additional expense of creating such a system; but as we continue to see, it’s not being left much choice in the matter. I’ve been fortunate in being able to access most sites from my home in Oregon, and I currently have no problems. IMO, it’s complete folly to expose your national security network to Outlaw US Empire penetration. Even “normal” communications methods were compromised long ago by the NSA going back to Operation Echelon that commenced at the end of the 1970s that targeted ALL nations. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see two different internet systems operating within a nation–one for the public and one strictly for the government. Global IT companies ought to be very alarmed at the thought of their eventual disconnection from the global internet since most are agents of the Outlaw US Empire. On the other hand, there are those IT companies that aren’t such agents and look to profit from this situation. It’s possible that quantum computing networks will exist outside the current internet and have engineering rendering them unhackable. We shall see.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 20:42 utc | 58

hey, ostro
please stick around, you’re too funny. everybody likes stupid people trying to pass like smartass guys. these are depressing times, life on earth can end if somebody miscalculates, so looking at you as an exhibit A of… off… something, I’m at a loss naming your category… just, stick around. u da man.

Posted by: albagen | Jul 8 2022 20:52 utc | 60

Northern Eve@44
I think that you are right, at least where Russia is concerned. In my view though the object, to preserve an idealised form of capitalism, is unrealistic. Multipolarity should lead to a new logic in which national/communal experimentation with forms of ownership and regulation of capital – rather like the experiment of chavism- will lead to new systems, which are likely to resolve themselves into forms of socialism.
The experience of the imperialist age since about 1800 has been that finance capital has worked hard to suppress any challenges to its domination and squashed every attempt (with few exceptions such as China where, it might be argued, it is early days yet) to establish independence. If multipolarity means independent sovereigns then all will be up to the people, who will take decisions on the bsasis of, ultimately, experience and necessity.
Don’t tell me that this is an inadequate response, I know it.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 8 2022 21:00 utc | 62

From New Jersey, in front of New York City i can not reach the Saker.

Posted by: Ocelote | Jul 8 2022 21:01 utc | 64

Maybe, its time to kick Biden out?😋
Posted by: ostro | Jul 8 2022 19:09 utc | 40
just replace him with the teleprompter. this will at least make press conferences shorter as the teleprompter doesn’t have to figure out what it’s supposed to do and say.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 8 2022 21:06 utc | 66

@ Posted by: LogosApplis | Jul 8 2022 16:08 utc | 10
Then the compressor might be at the Côte-de-Liesse Rolls-Royce repair facility in Montreal.

Posted by: Richard L | Jul 8 2022 21:14 utc | 68

The Saker needs help with IT security; can anybody help?
http://thesaker.is/saker-blog-under-attack-urgent-request-for-help/

Posted by: Dick Lenning | Jul 8 2022 21:20 utc | 70

Scott Ritter interviewed by a Russian…https://youtu.be/Cn5O0F3ZG5A

Posted by: ostro | Jul 8 2022 21:28 utc | 72

Posted by: albagen | Jul 8 2022 21:30 utc | 70
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Go ask the demented One…😋
He might ask Hunter and tell you…maybe…

Posted by: ostro | Jul 8 2022 21:38 utc | 74

@63 “…just replace him with the teleprompter.”
Excellent suggestion. But I would like to know who is programming the teleprompter. That’s the power behind the scenes.

Posted by: dh | Jul 8 2022 21:40 utc | 76

@47 BroncoBilly
=) thanks. Believe it or not, I’m familiar with the concept – started with a degree in smth immediately related to jets and turbomachinery, before I realized the MIC is not for me, and went down a different technical path.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 8 2022 22:00 utc | 78

Sorry to post about TheSaker.is but it might help to understand that a DDOS attack works by overloading the webservers. Https is more vulnerable than http because the additional security certificate checks take more time to process. The site will probably become more accessible as the IT guys sort out the source IPs and implement geolocation blocking, Cloudflare etc. It’s obviously a political attack and a credit to thesaker. I’m sure B already has anti-DDOS measures ready for what seems a pretty predictable irritation here at MoA, but several mirror sites could be prudent.

Posted by: T Paine | Jul 8 2022 22:07 utc | 80

I hardly ever post here or on The Saker’s blog. I usually just read, and whilist I disagree about sone things you guys you write, I am almost always elated, when you allow a post I wrote to get through and be publiciised, such that, someone might actually read it, and maybe agree, with point of view, which is the basis of free speech
To my amazement, neither The Saker, nor b, has to my knowledge banned me, which engenders massive respect from me.
“Saker blog under attack – URGENT request for help
“Dear friends The Saker blog has been under attack for many months, but we kept it quiet. Our webmaster and sysadmin Herb has successfully beat back all the attacks, but now the enemy has upped both the scale and nature of the attack and we are barely hanging on. I have two urgent requests: 1) If you are an IT security specialist (or can contact one you know) and…”
I might disagree with you, but I believe in Free Speech. I will try to help if I can.
http://thesaker.is/latest-articles/
Tony

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Jul 8 2022 22:19 utc | 82

It must be nearly a month now since the British mercenaries were given the death sentence.
I would imagine that they are appealing, maybe their appeals have already been heard and I missed them, if so I apologise for the oversight.
But what has been strikingly absent has been any diplomatic effort by Johnson to intervene.
It’s as though the British Government is begging for the Russians to shoot them.

Posted by: Orchard1 | Jul 8 2022 22:35 utc | 84

http://thesaker.is/sitrep-g7-note-from-maria-zakharova/
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Sitrep G7: Note from Maria Zakharova
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#Opinion by Maria Zakharova
Federal Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock:
“The fact that the Russian Foreign Minister spent most of his time during the talks not in the room, but outside it, highlights the fact that the Russian government is not a single millimetre closer to having talks.”
Can you even make any sense out of what she said? Outside what room? Utter nonsense.
The German public should be aware of the fact that their Foreign Minister Annalena is lying to them. Lavrov was among the audience the moment the G20 meeting started and about two hours later he began to hold bilateral talks with his colleagues who attended this forum in a room next door. This is what other ministers did as well, since in-person forums are held exactly for the purpose of holding meetings and having contacts. Otherwise, everyone would have gone online or sent out their speeches.
Or, maybe Baerbock thinks that the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil and other countries also were in the wrong room?
On the other hand, Germans are already beginning to realise who is in power in their country. More than half of the German citizens (58 percent) believe that German Foreign Minister Baerbock should have personally met and held talks with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of the G20 ministerial which is taking place on the Indonesian island of Bali. On Friday, Der Spiegel published a survey by Civey pollster to that effect.
Now, the truth about Baerbock. She said this because the G7’s plan to boycott Russia at the G20 failed. Nobody supported the Western regimes. That is why they are fuming now.
Lavrov made his schedule in advance, including in it the G20 meeting and a dinner on behalf of the hosts, as well as numerous bilateral contacts and communication with international media. The materials, photos and videos are available on the Foreign Ministry’s website and on social media. And neither Annalena nor anyone else can change reality with their lies.
#Opinion by Maria Zakharova
Federal Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock:
“The fact that the Russian Foreign Minister spent most of his time during the talks not in the room, but outside it, highlights the fact that the Russian government is not a single millimetre closer to having talks.”
Can you even make any sense out of what she said? Outside what room? Utter nonsense.
The German public should be aware of the fact that their Foreign Minister Annalena is lying to them. Lavrov was among the audience the moment the G20 meeting started and about two hours later he began to hold bilateral talks with his colleagues who attended this forum in a room next door. This is what other ministers did as well, since in-person forums are held exactly for the purpose of holding meetings and having contacts. Otherwise, everyone would have gone online or sent out their speeches.
Or, maybe Baerbock thinks that the foreign ministers of Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil and other countries also were in the wrong room?
On the other hand, Germans are already beginning to realise who is in power in their country. More than half of the German citizens (58 percent) believe that German Foreign Minister Baerbock should have personally met and held talks with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on the sidelines of the G20 ministerial which is taking place on the Indonesian island of Bali. On Friday, Der Spiegel published a survey by Civey pollster to that effect.
Now, the truth about Baerbock. She said this because the G7’s plan to boycott Russia at the G20 failed. Nobody supported the Western regimes. That is why they are fuming now.
Lavrov made his schedule in advance, including in it the G20 meeting and a dinner on behalf of the hosts, as well as numerous bilateral contacts and communication with international media. The materials, photos and videos are available on the Foreign Ministry’s website and on social media. And neither Annalena nor anyone else can change reality with their lies.

Posted by: Peter | Jul 8 2022 22:39 utc | 86

That Putin is able to conduct the war at “greater than necessary” cost of Russian lives, without political cost (so far) is an indicator of the trust the Russian people have in his judgement.
Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 8 2022 19:27 utc | 46
OK Bemildred, I am not disagreeing with your point, but exactly what do you mean by “greater than unnecessary… lives”? About 27 million Soviet citizens died in the struggle against Nazi Germany (many unnecessarily). Just try to imagine how many Russians will die in a war with the US and NATO. The Russian people understand this, even if westerners don’t have a clue. The real question is how many westerners must die before they get a clue?

Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jul 8 2022 23:08 utc | 88

karlof1 #26
“Posting the URL alone won’t work either.”
If you could break up the url with a tilde ~ or [space] as the piece to delete, it will likely pass the obstruction. We can reassemble it easily enough.
Thanks for all your posts brother.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 8 2022 23:38 utc | 90

It seems Hurricane Electric LLC is the bottleneck.

Posted by: bjd | Jul 8 2022 23:51 utc | 92

Posted by: ptb | Jul 8 2022 22:37 utc | 83
German preparations for possibility of physical gas shortage
The Germans could go back to burning books. Lots of thermal value there.

Posted by: Sushi | Jul 8 2022 23:53 utc | 94

“Robert Bridge at Strategic Culture talks about Russia opposing liberalism. He’s right but I think that he misunderstands what liberalism is.”
bevin | Jul 8 2022 18:16 utc | 31
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Thanks, bevin. US propagandists have effectively hijacked the English language to disable communication. Their liberalism is really illiberalism; liberal democracy is really fascism; free market capitalism is really rigged market cannibalism, etc. They’ve done the same with words like freedom, patriotism, terrorism, torture and so on. We really need a Bullshit-to-English dictionary just to have a meaningful discussion. By calculated cunning, the Empire of Lies sows confusion and chaos to mask its hideous crimes.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jul 9 2022 0:18 utc | 96

@83, ptb, physical shortages as opposed to virtual shortages?
I would like to say that Russia and China have the absolute best diplomats anywhere. It’s part of their culture. The US? Not so much. The days of Vulture Culture seem to be numbered.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Jul 9 2022 0:35 utc | 98

Posted by: Sushi | Jul 8 2022 23:10 utc | 87
Current understandings of liberalism/capitalism stray very far from their initial foundations. If you look at Smith’s understanding, which was one where he viewed the English system through rose colored glasses, the liberalism of his day was moral because it followed the tenets I listed (individual rights, free market, rule of law, rep. govt) along with the ideas that the free market had free and equal access to markets and information as its core and a fair distribution of wealth. The truth, in practice, as I pointed out to CalDre so long ago, is that the current form of financial capitalism, and older versions, derive most of their profits (surplus value) by manipulating free and equal access to information and markets thus allowing huge profits because some people (mostly the bottom 90% to 95% of the population) do not have the knowledge and access to level the playing field thus creating a relatively unfair distribution of wealth. Ultimate irony that capitalism only prospers when capitalists do not follow the tenets of its most famous progenitor.
This leads to so many inhumane outcomes – like slavery, and the westward expansion of the “Empire of Liberty” which based some of its philosophical underpinnings of Vatel’s concept of land usage and the myth that Indigenous Nations were not ‘using’ the land productively. As bevin has noted, among others, attempts to gain control of the market through governmental reforms or political organization are systematically thwarted (save China, USSR, Cuba). Operation Gladio, COINTELPRO, etc…are the direct attempts to prevent different forms of societal organization that would move power and wealth from its current locations.
I was lucky to begin to start to get mentored by Arthur Manuel, son of George Manuel (write of the Fourth World – a seminal work in the development of the political movement of Indigenous people in Canada, the US and beyond) before he passed away. He was a chief, as was his father, of the Secwepmc people (prounounced Shuswap) who never lost a battle to the British or Canada and never signed a treaty with any government. They never officially ceded power to others over their land as other Indigenous Nations in Canada had, and as I believe, all Indigenous Nations in the United States have. (Although a strong argument can be made that those concessions and treaties were signed in very dubious and illegal manners) They have retained their right and power over their land from time immemorial and never ceded that. Yet, the BC and Canadian governments act as if that is unimportant and make decisions over land and resources in traditional Secwepmc territory as if they were given control over the land. Even Canadian courts, and remember Canada has done a much better job than most nations in terms of respecting Indigenous Nations, reserves power in the Canadian central government to go against Indigenous nations whenever it deems it necessary.
I also learned in my six person history seminar with Vine Deloria, Jr (one of the greatest thinkers and most influential Native Americans ever) of the three different European approaches to interaction with Indigenous Nations. The Spanish tried create colonies and wanted to convert their newly conquered peoples to Christianity and make them Spanish citizens – subservient to the crown. There was much cruelty and the creation of the Casta system of racial hierarchy, but a sense of unequal inclusion. The French mostly wanted to trade with the Indigenous Nations and intermingled with the various tribes as equals. There was less of move to colonize and convert Indigenous peoples to become European, but there were French who wanted to do so. The English wanted to kick the Indigenous off the land and take it over. They did not want to make new citizens, but a New England. That said, the English did try to make treaties and did often work hard to keep the terms of their treaties with the Indigenous Nations. However, the unruly colonists did not care much for British foreign policy and simply kept spreading west without care. The American approach mostly followed the British model, but even George Washington was unable to prevent the crazy American people from moving west, eventually mustering troops to ‘protect’ settlers. That continue unabated with treaty after treat broken as Americans moved west into Indigenous lands causing conflicts which the US government eventually settled with force. Eventually, America simply took whatever it wanted despite what the US Supreme Court might say. I think President Andrew Jackson famously said after SCOTUS affirmed Cherokee claims, “Well, the Court has made its decision, let them enforce it.” I didn’t look up the quote to see if it’s accurate.
We’re all being scammed and gaslighted non-stop…now it’s time for me to stop. Sorry for this long post.

Posted by: Objective Observer | Jul 9 2022 0:49 utc | 100