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July 04, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-103

(An unexpected family issue kept me busy today. As I had no time to read and write this will be the only thread today.)

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict ...

The current open thread for other issues is here.

Posted by b on July 4, 2022 at 17:20 UTC | Permalink

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I just ran across this investigative journalist

He may have been linked often here

He says that the Ukraine war was a diversion for people, like Klaus Schwab, who want to run gas across Africa up to Europe. Their next step is small nuclear generators which Schwab has been working with since the 1970's and deploy these to Europe. Hence using Ukraine as a way to shut out Russia gas from Europe.

George Webb - Investigative Journalist
https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1

here is a video

https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1543502127896543233?s=20&t=Xfm-WjIK9Gfk_K5skRuY7g

Posted by: Don Midwest | Jul 4 2022 17:33 utc | 1

Will Russia incorporate *all* of Ukraine's Black Sea coast?

Parts of Ukraine will otherwise be island(s) like Russia's Kaliningrad presently is.
And thus a source for future conflict.

Posted by: librul | Jul 4 2022 17:34 utc | 2

Will Russia incorporate *all* of Ukraine's Black Sea coast?

Yes. It makes sense.

Posted by: RB | Jul 4 2022 17:43 utc | 3

@ Don Midwest | Jul 4 2022 17:33 utc

Deployment of small nuclear generators would be a good thing. And needed for any form of energy security (in terms of CO2, geopolitics, resource diversification. The link with Schwab and WEF is not surprising with their "4th industrial revolution" framework which is somewhat compatible with "4th generation nuclear reactors" - as a fusion of technologies which might be disruptive.

The main issues with using this for the Ukrainian situation is timescale. The fourth revolution and nuclear generation are not there yet. Self-initiated energy crisis in Europe is a fact. The timing does not add up at all.

Posted by: John Dowser | Jul 4 2022 17:47 utc | 4

Looks like Armageddon is coming but I am not sure if we need to worry about it. When the dinosaurs disappeared, Homo Sapiens showed up, something else will take over after we are gone, it’s just natural cycle after all. The only difference is that the dinosaurs are too dumb to create their own Armageddon.

Also dinosaurs left behind a lot of dirty coal and oil, what we will leave behind is going to be a lot more sophisticated.

Posted by: ETA | Jul 4 2022 17:50 utc | 5

WTF is wrong with Igor, "Strelkov", Girkin? Yeah, I know he is still buthurt from losing his position years ago, but he is way out of line. Even in face of constant and faster results and successes, he is trying to spin the current situation as some sort of "desaster" for Russia.

Why does Putin give him "carte blanche" to bash and disinform the Russian World? The ukronazis are using his last piece as propaganda tool right now.

Sometimes the Russian leadership really baffles me. Yeah, I know actually winning in the battlefield is the most important, but propaganda war should not be completely ignored like that.

Posted by: Pobeda | Jul 4 2022 17:53 utc | 6

"Zbigniew Brzezinski was a spokesman on foreign policy for the leading US elites. He wrote that America was going to take total control of the world and wanted everyone to go along with the plan of US domination “for the good of the world.” The book explains the hows and whys of that plan. It was similar to how now the Davos based World Economic Forum (WEF) promotes their plans for The Great Reset “for your own good whether you like it or not.”

One thing Brzezinski explained in his book is that certain nations are very important “pivotal states” that need to be free from Russian and Chinese control if American elites are going to be able to implement their new world order, and Ukraine is the main pivotal nation." Why didn’t US elites give in to Putin’s request?

Posted by: Kana | Jul 4 2022 17:58 utc | 7

Does anyone other noticed some strange anomalies in the Kremenchug missile attack videos? Seems to me no one is really interested in these.

These cruise missiles should strike at least with mach-1 — maybe much faster if wikipedia is right. Cruising speed may be slower — but impact speed shut be really high.

And in the vidoeframes you can see both missiles absolutely crisp frozen in time. The videos have a framerate of 25 fps. Even if you shutter the video with 1/1000 seconds the missiles should be visibly motion blurred. And an ordinary (even an expensive) CCTV will not shutter at this high rate.

In the machinery-parking-space video. There is no supersonic bang when the missile passes by. The missile is visible in two frames and in the following frame follows the explosion - this is too early. And if you take the movement of the missile in these two frames and calculate the speed it flies at maximum with 400 m/s = way below mach-1. The incoming wave shakes the video (the house? the camera?), but it doesn’t shake the crane and it’s tension-ropes at all. Also the parked machinery pieces doesn’t move. And there is no visible blast wave from these 1.000 kg of detonating TNT. And the incoming shattering wave is way to slow — about 1/2 second after the first frame of Explosion. The windows on the left has popped out out before the wave comes in. The explosion fireball is very bright-fiery and smoky and IMO too slow and cinematic in its expansion and it pushes debris into the air which moves somehow strange.

The greenhouse explosion-flash tints everything in light but doesn't cast a shadow at all. This is very obvious.

Both missiles look different to each other. IMO the supposed KH22 or X22 don’t look like these.

Furthermore both missiles have different incoming flight paths — machinery parking from east and greenhouse from north — but both impact roughly at the same time.

And do cruise missiles really hit in such a flat angle? Roughly above the ceilings of the surrounding houses? Not from above and at least 45 degrees or steeper?

And there are many more of these anomalies in the official videos if you analyze it frame by frame.

My opinion in short: This is Hollywood (Kiev bureau) and not reality.

Posted by: Nemo | Jul 4 2022 17:58 utc | 8

Deployment of small nuclear generators would be a good thing.
Posted by: John Dowser | Jul 4 2022 17:47 utc | 4

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Unicorns would be better.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 18:05 utc | 9

Now... this is the MoA I know ...

The name of the thread ... is UKRAINE ...

The discussion is on UKRAINE.

Anything else goes here https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/the-moa-week-in-review-not-ukraine-ot-2022-101.html

Posted by: crone | Jul 4 2022 18:12 utc | 10

Posted by: ETA | Jul 4 2022 17:50 utc | 5

No worries, we stand ready to populate your sweet little planet as soon as you are gone.

Posted by: AnAlienWithoutName | Jul 4 2022 18:17 utc | 11

Deployment of small nuclear generators would be a good thing. And needed for any form of energy security (in terms of CO2, geopolitics, resource diversification. The link with Schwab and WEF is not surprising with their "4th industrial revolution" framework which is somewhat compatible with "4th generation nuclear reactors" - as a fusion of technologies which might be disruptive.

The main issues with using this for the Ukrainian situation is timescale. The fourth revolution and nuclear generation are not there yet. Self-initiated energy crisis in Europe is a fact. The timing does not add up at all.

Only China & Russia are fielding new and innovative nuclear reactors.
On this topic, China recently brought online two (2) 200 Mwe High Temperature Gas Cooled Pebble Bed Reactors. China also brought online two (2) Thorium Fueled Molten Salt Reactors, size unknown, but likely in the 100 Mwe range.

INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jul 4 2022 18:21 utc | 12

The wishes (or a dream) of the Lords of the “Western” armament industry – of the US and its colonies – would be that the production speed of their factories should approach, as closely as possible, the speed at which their weapons are destroyed in the Ukraine. But if the “West” is not careful, and does not balance the situation well between the quantities and the two speeds in question, it risks demilitarizing itself as well. Beyond Ukraine the whole “West”.

Posted by: Noémio Ramos | Jul 4 2022 18:33 utc | 13

@Nemo #8

Yes, I've done the math on that. Frame rate, missile speed/length mean that missiles and munitions used in modern war cannot be frozen or even captured at all on anything but a specialized high-speed camera. I used as reference the recently-released video of an airplane crashing into the Pentagon, where parts of the plane like the wings disappear in the video. Because they pass through the frame completely in the time the frame was taken.

So IMHO all videos from any source that show you a missile frozen on a 'surveillance camera video' or 'cell phone video' are fake.

Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 4 2022 18:33 utc | 14

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺⚡Former deputy head of the Kaliningrad region Sergey Eliseev appointed head of the government of the Kherson region


🇷🇺 The government of the Kherson region was headed by the first vice-premier of the Kaliningrad region Sergey Eliseev.

After Kiriyenko's recent visits to the Kherson, Zaporozhye and Kharkiv regions, the process of strengthening civil administrations, including personnel administration, began to be accelerated at the expense of Russian officials, as had already happened in the DPR and LPR.

An important step for future integration with Russia.

Since the war will be long, the processes of managing and organizing life in the liberated territories are no less important than purely military tasks. As the organizational and economic isolation of these territories from Ukraine, the administrative and economic orientation towards Russia will increase, this time without the intermediate format of people's republics, but as regions intending to become part of Russia without obtaining the intermediate status of independent states.

How effectively these processes will be organized will become clear in the fall, when it will be necessary to demonstrate readiness for winter, the completion of the harvesting campaign and progress in the distribution of Russian passports. Of course, there are still tasks of CTO, but these are already issues related to the activities of the FSB, the National Guard and the military.


Posted by: Down South | Jul 4 2022 18:36 utc | 15

a missile frozen on a 'surveillance camera video'
@Kingsmeg | Jul 4 2022 18:33 utc | 14

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The tell is the practically all digital cameras are rolling shutter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 18:36 utc | 16

Kana [7]

You don’t think having Brzezinski’s son as US Ambassador in Warsaw is a red flag ?

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jul 4 2022 18:37 utc | 17

Until the last Ukrainian, and the exhaustion of cannon fodder.

Posted by: Noémio Ramos | Jul 4 2022 18:40 utc | 18

I can't shake the feeling that the "collective west"* (as in: north America and most of the member states of the EU and a couple of vassals like Australia, but not necessarily Japan or South Korea) have gone No Limit Texas Hold'em all in with full confidence and squandered away pretty much all of what they have because they colossaly misjudged their opponents' hand. They really did believe with full conviction their own bullshit about meaningless and poor Russia and intellectually deficit copycat China and the forgettable "autocratic and dictatorial" rest of the world (a large part of which is India, not to mention Africa which I even harder don't know absoulutely nothing about) and now that things don't turn out the way they imagined they would they are stuck in the mud with no direction left to go to - the adage of the submarine in the desert comes to mind, but it is usually reserved to more competent people stuck in less predictable outcomes.

This is how history is made, folks! Sit back, enjoy the show, and try to avoid the debris hurling towards you! The German government as far as I can tell is currently busy preparing its' population for poverty while still offering no idea of what is going on and how to deal with it.

* Collective, as in: the people in charge. However, given our western pondering with regards to democratic values: Is the ruin the west brought upon themselves it's own fault? (Yes, it is fully) Did the people have a choice in that? (Being "democratic" societies, they ought to have - the corollary being: they had nothing to say, despite bombing people to shit all over the world in democracy's name) How do they intend to deal with that? (We'll see in the coming months, if there is still a plan left)

May you live in interesting times! Here's to the most dramatic pizza delivery theme I know.

Posted by: pachinko | Jul 4 2022 18:45 utc | 19

Kana @ 7

Ukraine was pivotal to Zbig because it was home. Town near Lvov named for his family. Normal emigré BS. What is not normal is in US emigré BS is taken seriously because the natives know absolutely not one thing about the world outside. Anyone who can find Ukraine on a map must be a genius.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 4 2022 18:52 utc | 20

International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state.- Brzezinski cerca 1972

The Masters of Disaster don't give a rat's ass about any particular country; they care only insofar as to how they can strip them.

Like Ukraine for example. They can plunder Ukraine resources & exploit cheap labor. They can scam US treasury via war machine funding. Skim CIA/NED millions they throw around.

Promote Ukraine Citizens as cannon fodder. Including women, the aged and disabled.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jul 4 2022 18:52 utc | 21

Pachinko wins the metaphor contest. The west is playing poker and bluffing; unfortunately for the west, Eurasia is playing chess.

Russia will take all of the Black Sea coast because it has to. If not, the US/UK will threaten Sevastopol and retain the ability to effectively blockade the Black Sea. The Crimean land bridge was the strategic goal of Phase I. Odessa will be the strategic goal of Phase III.

Who knows with Strelkov. There’s the doomer streak in a lot of Russians. And we need to consider that Russians are the hardest people to propagandize in the world. They generally believe the authorities are lying all the time. Combine that cynicism with a doomer attitude, sprinkle in a dash of Strelkov being forever mad and you’ve got what’s probably enough explanation of his pronouncements.

Posted by: Lex | Jul 4 2022 18:55 utc | 22

Great Interview with Jacques Baud, a real military expert (Swiss Military Intel, UN, NATO) - in german:
https://www.broeckers.com/2022/07/04/jacques-baud-ukraine-nato-und-geheimdienste/

Posted by: Sirius | Jul 4 2022 18:56 utc | 23

so Russia is indeed about to kick off at least for now the industrial mobilization. Apparently preparing a general mobilization for the winter campaign. Interesting. This is something I first read somewhere then confirmed by the military channel.

Posted by: windwaves | Jul 4 2022 19:01 utc | 24

They really did believe with full conviction their own bullshit

Posted by: pachinko | Jul 4 2022 18:45 utc | 19

Nailed it.

I've been saying for a long time now that the difference between Eastern and western propaganda is that the west actually believes in its own...

Posted by: A.L. | Jul 4 2022 19:10 utc | 25

@Kingsmeg #14

Hmmm there seems to be a rolling shutter effect at frame #2 (the fuselage is split at the half) and at Mach 3 1/1000 th sec is a displacement of 1m and the missile is not that near the camera (so angular velocity is not that high). I think this video clip is legit but it shows the hit was in the grove behind the mall wall, anyway :) see https://mamot.fr/@lutzray/108590500444731426

Posted by: physprof | Jul 4 2022 19:16 utc | 26

Will the Germans ever fracking learn ? I think not, it seems as fanatic militarism is absorbed by mother's milk, I do not understand. It seems as Hamburg and Dresden are completely forgotten. Believe me, next time nothing will live in the ruins for a thousand years. Russia has never made silly threats, it is a country that has experienced so much war that it is a part of their culture. Go and visit Mos film, and see for your self, fantastic productions many from Soviet era, but marvellous movies.
Ok I am a Russia Philia, I love many things Russian, their culture, their food and tada! Their women, strong-willed, independent and above all very beautiful. Just look at the official Russian spokesperson Maria Vladimirovna Zakharova, who has become even more beautiful with age. Ok out of my reach, but beautiful and intelligent.
Not what i find here in Denmark or formerly in sweden, just fat ugly women all over.

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jul 4 2022 19:26 utc | 27

@physprof 27

Most security cameras are CCD sensors, much less sensitive than our cameras and phones, and frame rates are often set to as low as 10fps for storage reasons. 1/1000 shutter speed cannot be assumed even outdoors at mid-day. Could be as low as 1/30, in which case a Mach 3 missile traveled 17m during capture, and 103m between frames.

I'm confused as to which video we're talking about, I was referring to a Russian video aiming to prove the HIMARS systems USA gave Ukraine were using the long-range munitions USA claimed not to have given Ukraine. The video was probably faked for the reasons I gave above. I mean I do think USA gave Ukraine the munitions USA claimed not to have given them, because liars are gonna lie, I just think Russia discovered that some other way they don't want to share.

Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 4 2022 19:33 utc | 28

@Kingsmeg Sorry, should have been clearer, I was referring to the surveillance footage from the Kremenchuk medical clinic near the mall.

Posted by: physprof | Jul 4 2022 19:41 utc | 29

i relegated the missile videos to the same category as the ones we were shown at the time of the explosion in Beirut. nobody took those seriously.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jul 4 2022 19:46 utc | 30

The whole SMO is to kick the ass of the US of A and the USD. One should go back in time and read/listen to what Putin said, from around September 2021. To make this world a multi-polar world, get rid of the USD as the reserve currency...and, isolate US of A.

For the last 4+ months, the western "brainy" leaders have been depleting their own military and economic resources, Russia on the other hand, didn't destroy the entry roads, railway junctions at the westernmost borders etc. For a reason!

Russia is not going to destroy the Ukraine, raze Kiev, or Kharkov down, but it will finally destroy the NATO, and in time the USA, at least the USD...Russia doesn't need to fight directly with them to achieve that. The energy/fuel war is going on...even in the US, it is Putinflation...

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 19:50 utc | 31

Illinois police are looking for a White male suspect with black hair and a slim build after a gunman attacked an Independence Day parade in Highland Park, a wealthy suburb of Chicago...
Happy 4th of July, America!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooting-suspect-description-released-july-4-parade-attack-kills-6

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 19:53 utc | 32

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 19:50 utc | 32

"isolate US of A."

That part is not going so well, at least for now. Also getting rid of USD as a reserve currency is going to be a long process, I don't think Russia has the patience. China could do it, but not with war, or sanctions. But for domestic reasons, they won't hurry with it either.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:11 utc | 33

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:11 utc | 34
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Don't worry too much about it, for Russia has enough patience...and the ability...and the brains. Go back in time and listen to what Putin said, better still, in Russian...😏

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:18 utc | 34

getting rid of USD as a reserve currency is going to be a long process
Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:11 utc | 34

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How fast are prices going up? That is the $ going down.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 20:21 utc | 35

There was an interesting article in Redstate today by a guy called Streiff. About US military recruitment problems. I'm not sure they can be fixed easily. Unless the US does like the Ukies and starts conscripting folk.

Posted by: NormaJeanDaugherty | Jul 4 2022 20:26 utc | 36

Getting rid of usd is happening already, thanks to US sanctions, not Russia or China. When brics currency is launched it'll be the very funny to see the US geniuses faces, probably this year.

Posted by: rk | Jul 4 2022 20:26 utc | 37

too scents | Jul 4 2022 20:21 utc | 36

Prices going up is mostly inflation. Besides, reserve currency status does not mean that currency has the highest nominal value. Rather, it is the most used and held currency. Which the USD is by some margin.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:28 utc | 38

ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:18 utc | 35

See, just saying it does not make it happen. And tying Ruble to oil or gold dooms it as a reserve currency. It can work for internal use, which I doubt, but for reserve currency, definately not.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:31 utc | 39

A few days ago, Russia reduced supply of gas by 15% to Italy. On the 11th July, routine maintenance of both lines of Nord Stream will start, meaning complete stoppage of supply. This maintenance is supposed to end by 21st July, but will it? Block gas and fuel pipes going through Ukraine, then? Sudden blockade of Suez canal...?

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:31 utc | 40

rk | Jul 4 2022 20:26 utc | 38

"brics currency"

India, China and Russia having the same currency?
Well, that would certainly be a fun experiment to watch. Hopefully from far away.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:33 utc | 41

most used and held currency.
Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:28 utc | 39

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In finance the rate of change is more important that the quantity.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 20:38 utc | 42

Joe6pack ...

tell us please what you believe the USD. the petrodollar ... to be...how it impacts you personally as an American and how it impacts others... and why the heck it shouldn't be removed.

This ol' American crone doesn't think you have a clear understanding.

Posted by: crone | Jul 4 2022 20:41 utc | 43

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:33 utc | 42
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Recession is knocking on the door in the US, very noisily. How much did you pay for a loaf of bread today?

Anyway, this SMO against the USD was going on for quite a time. Lot of countries, in the so-called developing world is waiting to kick the USA's ass. Even the ordinary Canadians don't like the US...

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:46 utc | 44

crone | Jul 4 2022 20:41 utc | 44
"why the heck it shouldn't be removed"

I don't take a stance on that. It's just my opinion, that 'unseating' USD as reserve currency is going to be damn hard. And in any case propably a very long process.

Founders of the EUR hoped, secretly and not no secretly, that it would take the place of USD as a reserve currency. Doesn't seem likely right now, does it?

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:46 utc | 45

Video of missile hitting near shopping centre.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jul 4 2022 20:48 utc | 46

ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:46 utc | 45

"Lot of countries, in the so-called developing world is waiting to kick the USA's ass. Even the ordinary Canadians don't like the US"

Sure, and lots of europeans hate the US. No doubt about it. But when companies decide, which currency to use, USD is, atm, the easiest. Also, Us government & companies have so far been able to offer good investment opportunities, in dollars. Backed by rule of law, where even foreign companies believe they can have justice. Just for starters...

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:53 utc | 47

It's just my opinion, that 'unseating' USD as reserve currency is going to be damn hard.
Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:46 utc | 46
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Sure, that's what Russia want to you Americans to keep on thinking.😏
But, when the sledgehammer falls, it'll be too late.

Just like why Russia allows the road crossings, railway crossings in the westernmost border of the Ukraine to be open for the last 4 months. Allow the fools to deplete themselves.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:54 utc | 48

Backed by rule of law, where even foreign companies believe they can have justice. Just for starters...

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:53 utc | 48
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Rule of law? Rule of whose law?
Companies can be made to lose, break or die much faster, much easier than governments...

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 20:56 utc | 49

@ 46

As I thought Joe ...

You don't have a clue.

I suggest you avail yourself of some of the expertise on this forum ... you might reformulate an opinion or two.

Posted by: crone | Jul 4 2022 20:56 utc | 50

@Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:46 utc | 46

The strength and use of the US currency is all about the rule of law (now broken repeatedly by the US in seizing the reserves of other nations, the latest one being Russia) and the strength of the US military (after the Syrian failure, Afghan debacle and soon to be Ukraine debacle not looking so good), and the strength of the US economy (what strength? and with Asia growing much faster and integrating along lines supportive of local currency export payments without the US$), together with market liquidity and available cross-treasury foreign exchange swap lines (slowly being added by Russia and China).

The breakdown of US$ hegemony will be like the Ukie army, a long period of slow deterioration followed by a sudden rapid collapse. The Ukraine war and sanctions speeded it up somewhat, a Taiwan war would put it on the fast path. The mass indebtedness of the US also does not allow for positive real interest rates so we could be in for a serious few years of high inflation in the US, which will not help US dollar strength (unless measured against a Euro of the collapsing and possibly disintegrating Europe).

I give the US$ ten more years as the reserve currency at best, by then China's economy will be twice that of the use in PPP terms and its technology will be at an equal level - allowing for a significant appreciation in the Chinese currency. By then also the US economy will be in a financial shambles, if not sooner.

A really important milestone will be nations defaulting on their "odious" US$ debts and turning to China and the East for funding.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:01 utc | 51

crone | Jul 4 2022 20:56 utc | 51

I have studied reserve currency issues a little. This forum has not really educated me much about that. But please, it is an interesting subject, I am always glad to learn more.

But please, something more than "it will be the best, because it will be the best!"
or "Putin said so, it will be so!"

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:01 utc | 52

Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:01 utc | 52

Thanks for this. Very plausible scenario, but I don't quite agree. Question number one: Will China let the Yuan appreciate?

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:05 utc | 53

Almost a brawl at the 10th World Peace Forum in Beijing, "US, Russian envoys clash over Ukraine crisis at Beijing forum as Chinese experts call on major powers to control ‘spillover effect’":

"Russian and Western diplomats clashed over the Russia-Ukraine conflict at a forum in Beijing on Monday, as Russia's Ambassador to China Andrey Ivanovich Denisov pushed back against a claim made the US Ambassador to China Nicholas Burns that Russia's military operations in Ukraine posed the biggest threat to the current world order.

"The rare, tense exchange at the 10th World Peace Forum underscored the escalating geopolitical tensions among major powers, Chinese experts noted, while calling on major powers to find a way of controlling the spillover effect of the conflicts and focus on areas of common interest, including safeguarding peace and the current international order underpinned by the UN Charter and international law. [My Emphasis]

Considering the fact that the Outlaw US Empire stands in gross violation of the above bolded text and is a serial violator since 1945, one must ask why its agent was invited to a Peace Forum? I must commend Denisov for containing his anger, and I very much doubt I'd have shook hands with Burns or have extended any pleasantries. The fucker's a lying sack of shit whose presence would pollute any forum.

The report focuses more on Taiwan than Ukraine. Burns's denial of Outlaw US Empire biowarfare labs in Ukraine was preposterous given information already revealed by both US officials and documents captured by Russia along with the documented episode of actual bioweapon use by the Outlaw US Empire's proxy and clear preparation for further bioweapon attacks.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 21:07 utc | 54

@53

Roger just gave a succinct, factual picture of the matter. Highly recommend you read and do some research.

Posted by: crone | Jul 4 2022 21:09 utc | 55

Inflation these days is due to the power of monopoly pricing: because they can...

Posted by: donten | Jul 4 2022 21:12 utc | 56

Happy 4th of July!

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 21:13 utc | 57

Founders of the EUR hoped, secretly and not no secretly, that it would take the place of USD as a reserve currency.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 20:46 utc | 46

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The Euro was designed to undermine the sovereignty of the European nation states. A design goal of the Maastricht Treaty.

The Union has exclusive competence to make directives and conclude international agreements when provided for in a Union legislative act as to …

. the customs union

. the establishing of the competition rules necessary for the functioning of the internal market

. monetary policy for the Member States whose currency is the euro

. the conservation of marine biological resources under the common fisheries policy

. Common Commercial Policy

. conclusion of certain international agreements

ref ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_pillars_of_the_European_Union

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 21:19 utc | 58

@Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:05 utc | 54

"Thanks for this. Very plausible scenario, but I don't quite agree. Question number one: Will China let the Yuan appreciate?"

The control of technology and supply chains allows the US (and some European corporations) to take Chinese value added as their profits (as a negative on China's trade balance), as those advantages are dismantled over the next decade the Chinese terms of trade will significantly improved. For example, looks at the share of profits between Foxconn and Apple for an iPhone. In addition, the move to EVs will massively reduce Chinese demand for oil over the next decade - greatly reducing China's energy import bill.

The Yuan will need to appreciate to offset these, otherwise China will end upon as a seriously depressing economic burden to other nations - reducing China's markets and influence. China starts to become what the US was in the post-WW2 period, an exporter of capital.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:21 utc | 59

Roger @52--

The first acute phase of dedollarization will likely see a bifurcated trading system with a dollar bloc and another consisting of the new trading currency bloc. There's a very slight possibility the dollar will be used as a component in the basket of currencies chosen, but it has essentially zero collateral for its fiat nature since the issuing government has a net worth of minus $123.5 Trillion by its own admission. And the only reason a dollar bloc will exist is because of the colonial nature of those nations corralled into its use.

Putin laid it out in very simple terms for all to see when he said the Collective West has fallen into a trap of its own making, and their continuing actions to free themselves from the trap merely serve to further ensnare them. Thus the ability to go slow and preserve Russia's military manpower as best as possible, for Ukraine is part of the trap some in the West are finally realizing.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 21:25 utc | 60

Inflation these days is due to the power of monopoly pricing: because they can...
Posted by: donten | Jul 4 2022 21:12 utc | 57

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Today's inflation is caused by the need to roll-over maturing debt at rising risk premiums.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 21:27 utc | 61

Surreal to read one of the world's most prominent economists, Jeffrey Sachs, bashing the neocon adventure in Ukraine as if he had been listening to Gonzalo Lira and the Duran at https://consortiumnews.com/2022/07/01/ukraine-is-the-latest-neocon-disaster/ This is worth noting because self-proclaimed populist Steve Bannon, who also says the US should deescalate in Ukraine, speaks of Sachs as if he were responsible for the rise of the oligarchs in Russia and thus all the evil that is happening in Europe. And this, in turn, is worth noting because - to answer the question in one of the comments: are we being played again? - the answer is: yes, MAGA is a scam that is only another ploy to keep the whole world subservient to the US.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jul 4 2022 21:33 utc | 62

@Nemo 8, etc. seeming anomalies in Kremenchug videos...

On terminal speed:
Perhaps cruise missiles (Kalibr and the like) might be capable of Mach 3 on impact, but I am certain that is not anything close to their usual application. These cruise missiles in question are often launched from over the Caspian Sea (per MoD) and could have flight times of hours to reach central Ukraine.
The difference between cruise missiles and ballistic missles is the difference between the V-1 and V-2 of WWII. Cruise missles, like the V-1, pootle along well below Mach 1 and their engines are not rocket engines but jet engines setup for efficiency and thereby range. Fuel usage increases greatly at supersonic speeds and these are medium to long range weapons that give up speed in exchange for greater range.

For cruise missles it's flight path and not trajectory...
Like the RAF helicopters, their low terrain hugging flight path is to minimize the opportunities for UAF defenses to find and shoot at them. They come in low and horizontal, so they necessarily hit at a fairly low angle.
The V-1 had no targeting capability; it just ran out of gas ... somewhere. With modern tech, it is entirely plausible to have a salvo of cruise missiles launch at different times and places, follow different flight paths and hit a target at nearly the same time. One of the few things that Russia absolutely gains from this conflict is testing their stuff. The ability to coordinate such a salvo is a 'nice' idea in war, but it is something else to actually do it repeatedly as they have done.

Missile appearance and speed
The KH (Kinzhal) or X (Xircon) classes are ballistic missles (or more properly quasi ballistic) missles. They will come in at super- or hypersonic speeds and at a steep angle because they are essentially returning to ground from near space (like the V-2). Kalibrs and other cruise missiles are somewhat rudimentary flying machines but the tail like an airplane (rudder+ailerons) is a giveaway. The Kremenchug attack was by cruise missles. I believe you can see a parent in the park video react to both the first impact AND to the overflight of the second missile, making it from the lake to the large tree in two bursts with his child before the 2nd nearby impact.

Explosion effects
Before the explosion would move the heavy equipment it would have shredded, stripped or knocked down the trees in between. That didn't seem to happen, it just wasn't that big. I'm not convinced it hit anything other than the ground at or near the back wall of the mall. The embankments of the rail line and at the edge of the plant parking lot will also reflect/disrupt/disperse the explosion shockwave at ground level.

The other explosion near the park was quite huge and had a big red fireball. This is an indication of a hit on a likely military target with a quite large secondary explosion. The size of the elevated red fireball at close enough range would throw no shadows because the light source filled so much of the sky (a quarter?) and thereby washed out any partial shadowing by a tree, body or lamppost.

TLDR;)
The Kremenchug attack was a Kalibration by cruise missiles with tails like airplanes.
The velocity of cruise missiles is well below Mach 1, and their flight path is horizontal with a low final angle of attack.
The videos make more sense with these parameters.

Posted by: LeMoyne | Jul 4 2022 21:38 utc | 63

Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:21 utc | 60

So do you think chinese will make yuan a floating currency, freely convertible to others, in market rates? Because without that I don't think it can truly be a reserve currency.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:43 utc | 64

Winter is coming. Europe needs gas, coal to heating, and for the production of electricity, and for factories, food production and so on...but, the storages are more than half empty. Biden promises to send LPG, but it is too damn expensive, and cannot be pumped to homes and industry -- no pipelines. Germany doesn't produce coal, Poland does, but Polish coal is of much less quality than the Russian. Columbia can send coal to Europe, but that coal doesn't produce enough energy, less burning power. Some African countries might too. These are expensive coal. The European leaders don't want to raise alarm, as they'd be kicked out of power. But, winter is approaching fast.

Why should Russia help those who are attacking it, helping to kill the Russians and Russian speaking people? There are enough countries in the world, who'd be happy to buy Russian fuel, gas, coal and the rest. Sanctions? Who is going to stop Russia? The US Navy? German Navy? UK, or French Navy? The leaders loudmouth, but are shit scared.

There's a strait line from St. Petersburg, Russia to Mumbai, India through the Caspian Sea and Iran. From Minsk to Mumbai. There's also the north sea route from Murmansk to Vladivostok round the clock with icebreakers, much cheaper than going overland.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 21:43 utc | 65

Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:01 utc | 53 "But please, something more than "it will be the best, because it will be the best!" or "Putin said so, it will be so!"

On new trading currencies keep an eye on the BRICS group and Sergey Glazyev. There has been a number of links posted here in the last months.
US sanctions have caused a major shift towards trading in national currencies. There is also moves now to create and international currency based on a basket of commodities.
As this gains more momentum, a lot of US dollars will be going home to roost.

The new system taking shape removes the power of any one nation to sanction other countries as US has been doing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 4 2022 21:45 utc | 66

Just saw this when poking around:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/chinas-yuan-is-making-headway-a-global-reserve-currency-with-85-25-of-central-banks-keen-on-holding-the-asset/ar-AAZaHQv

Clearly it's starting to change

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:45 utc | 67

Always put family first b, you or they will all be gone one day.

Russians are putting their Ukrainian family first.

That’s why the Nazis are confused.

They don’t understand that they will be even worse off than the Collective Waste they are so keen to be accepted by. Soon the demented ukrops will be ‘evacuated’ to deepest Canada to reform and breed as the next gen whores of the Aryan empire, and mercenaries fighting in the Artic, which is where the latest resource grab is taking place. With the same defeats. They are insane.

Meanwhile in London, on a quiet Monday evening,Ambulances can not attend heart attacks for at least an hour, this evening! The NHS is destroyed the populace doesn’t have a clue and nothing to say because their beloved MSM doesn’t say it’s a problem. The decades of propaganda and brexitheadery has softened our brains so much. We don’t even care about our elderly parents suffering without social care or our equally needy neighbours. Or the massive cost rises impoverishing our poorest or even OURSELVES.

Stay alive to basic humanity. As the heartwarming videos of Ukrainians climbing out of cellars welcoming Russians attest.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 4 2022 21:46 utc | 68

@Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 21:25 utc | 61

I could not agree more karlof, the West/US will cling on to its currency area just the same as Britain with its Sterling Zone which only collapsed after the mass indebtedness to the US in WW2 gave the US the leverage to force the UK to give in. The rapid adoption of EVs in China will really alter the US$ oil trade, as China will be able to get all the oil it needs (and many other commodities) from domestic production plus Russian/Central Asian imports in local currencies.

@Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:43 utc | 65

No, the world did fine with relatively fixed exchange rates under Bretton Woods until the US went full on Guns 'n' Butter and wilfully destroyed that system. Floating exchange rates are only good for currency traders and speculators, real businesses much prefer the predictability of relatively fixed exchange rates without the added overhead of currency hedging.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:50 utc | 69

Parts of Ukraine will otherwise be island(s) like Russia's Kaliningrad presently is.

Posted by: librul | Jul 4 2022 17:34 utc | 2

I seemed to recall that there was a technical term for a part of a country that's discontiguous with respect to the country's main land mass. I found the terms "enclave" and "exclave," one or both of which might apply in the scenario you put forward.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 4 2022 21:51 utc | 70

Looks like the Russian military (O-group) already have close fire control of the Seversk-Bakhmut road, which is the only large road for Seversk troops to evacuate to Bakhmut. The other small east-west roads out of Siveresk are all very close to Russian positions. Already an operational encirclement?

Posted by: Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:58 utc | 71

Chinese, Russian warships approach Diaoyu Islands as Russia ‘sends warning to Japan’
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1269747.shtml?id=12

Posted by: Peter | Jul 4 2022 21:59 utc | 72

Intel Slava Z

Finland and Sweden on Monday completed negotiations on joining NATO in one round, on July 5 the accession protocol will be signed - officially

Posted by: crone | Jul 4 2022 22:02 utc | 73

Only the US can unseat the US dollar as a reserve currency, e.g. by giving the US dollar assets of the Russian national bank to Ukraine.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 4 2022 22:06 utc | 74

Russia doesn't have to have any trade relations with Europe. She can let other countries to manufacture products it might need. She can help other countries to get the technology to produce those products. She can get more money and/or barter products/services from those countries -- doing business in their own currencies. She doesn't need the Suez canal or the Panama canal get goods through. Most of the northern seas are Russia's, and she has the most modern, most toughest icebreakers. On the land-Caspian-Iran-India route, all countries win gain, a win-win situation. All connections with friendly countries will be win-win state.

In time, Europe can be forgotten.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 4 2022 22:07 utc | 75

Inflation these days comes from diverting huge parts of the economy towards locking down, closing businesses, stop working, staying home, keeping distance, staying safe, masks, tests, qr-codes and all other kinds of productivity killing activities alongside printing massive amounts of money to pay for all of that. it's non-productive unless of course you think without all that we'd all be dead as you can see from non existing Swedes, depopulated Florida and many other countries (mainly African) who could not afford all that jazz.

It's one big engineered power grab and all those who don't want to acknowledge that think Russia is winning and China will have Russia's back. The big ploy to destroy/invert Christianity will fail.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 4 2022 22:08 utc | 76

@ Passerby | Jul 4 2022 22:06 utc | 75

i am mystified at what you mean by this... can you explain it differently to help me out? thanks..

Posted by: james | Jul 4 2022 22:08 utc | 77

BRICS is not designed to have its own currency , as with the EURO.
Rather, BRICs is based on payment transactions on a balanced ratio of the national currencies of the respective participating countries.
However, as with the EURO, this is a fundamental weakness of the system because no BRICS-wide exchanges can be formed as alternative trading venues to the USD-based U.S. exchanges. This means, for example, that oil is still traded on a USD basis without any alternative, from which only the U.S. benefits, since every trade on a USD basis exports U.S. inflation.
That is why the FED can print practically unlimited money, which is accepted worldwide as long as the trade is based on USD.
Here an alternative must be created, this is the Achilles heel of the USA.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Posted by: Peter | Jul 4 2022 22:09 utc | 78

too scents | Jul 4 2022 21:27 utc | 62

Because they can...

Posted by: donten | Jul 4 2022 22:09 utc | 79

NATO tax dollars at work. European values on show. What Standing with Ukraine means.

"TWO Ukrainian communist brothers have appealed to the European Parliament for support after what they described as a show trial opened last week.

"Alexander and Mikhail Kononovich were banned from attending the hearing which took place on Thursday and Friday, instead appearing via video-link.

“I want to address the European left. Comrades, we appeal to you and want the deputies of the European Parliament to visit Ukraine and attend our next court session.

“So that they themselves can see and tell the whole world how people are put on trial in Ukraine,” Mikhail Kononovich said.

"The brothers also called on European media outlets to attend their hearing “so that the whole world can see the true face of the Zelensky regime.”

"Last week’s hearing opened without the presence of a lawyer who was told that there would be no trial.

"After he left the judge opened proceedings and heard the case without without either the defendants or their legal counsel present.

“Yesterday and today we were not brought to court,” the brothers said. “They are afraid that we are telling the truth. But the truth will still come out.”

"They claimed that they have not been allowed to speak to a lawyer and insist that the case against them is “completely fabricated, from start to finish.”

“We consider this a provocation against the state of Ukraine,” they said.

“We were arrested on ethnic grounds, we are ethnic Belarusians. In the centre of Europe, people are imprisoned on the basis of nationality, that I am the leader, and Sasha [Alexander] is the deputy of the Belarusian community,” Mikhail Kononovich said.

“There is no democracy in Ukraine and there can be no question. This is evidenced by our arrest, our trial,” he continued.

"Alexander Kononovich said that the right to criticise the government is enshrined in the Ukrainian constitution and that they should not be facing trial.

"The brothers were detained on March 3 soon after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Prominent communist youth leaders, they were accused of spying for Russia and Belarus.

It was feared they were to be executed in the immediate aftermath of their arrest, however the European Union has ignored appeals to ensure their safety raised by the Greek Communist Party.

"Last month they were pictured alive for the first time, although their lawyer said they had been tortured and threatened with life in prison unless they admitted to the charges against them."
From Today's Morning Star
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/kononovich-brothers-call-for-meps-and-european-media-to-attend-their-show-trial-in-ukraine

Posted by: bevin | Jul 4 2022 22:10 utc | 80

Because they can...
Posted by: donten | Jul 4 2022 22:09 utc | 80

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If they could risk premiums wouldn't be rising.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 22:23 utc | 81

Iran Sets Up Caspian-to-Gulf Intermodal Route for Russian Cargo
https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/iran-sets-up-caspian-to-gulf-intermodal-route-for-russian-cargo

Posted by: Peter | Jul 4 2022 22:24 utc | 82

The missile in the Kremenchug video matched the KH-22/32 (32 has upgraded internals)

https://t.me/mod_russia/17243
On June 27, in the city of Kremenchug, Poltava region, the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a high-precision air-launched weapon attack on hangars with weapons and ammunition received from the United States and European countries, near the Kremenchug road machinery plant. As a result of the high-precision strike, weapons and ammunition of Western production, concentrated in a warehouse area for further shipment to the Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbas, were hit. The detonation of stored ammunition for Western weapons caused a fire in a non-functioning shopping center located next to the plant's territory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-32
Kh-32 flies to a target with a ceiling of about 40 kilometers, which is 7 km higher than the height of short range US missile defense system;
The Kh-32 on the final stage attacks the target in a steep dive (breaking the missile defense against radars that do not include objects directly above themselves in their viewing angle);

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-22
The Kh-22 uses a Tumansky liquid-fuel rocket engine, fueled with TG-02 (Tonka-250) and IRFNA (inhibited red fuming nitric acid), giving it a maximum speed of Mach 4.6 and a range of up to 600 km (320 nmi). It can be launched in either high-altitude or low-altitude mode. In high-altitude mode, it climbs to an altitude of 27,000 m (89,000 ft) and makes a high-speed dive into the target, with a terminal speed of about Mach 4.6. In low-altitude mode, it climbs to 12,000 m (39,000 ft) and makes a shallow dive at about Mach 3.5, The missile is guided by a gyroscope-stabilized autopilot in conjunction with a radio altimeter.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 4 2022 22:25 utc | 83

On the retention of a reserve currency. My assessment of that issue is that no nations want any other nation to have the power provided by its currency being THE reserve currency or sole trading currency. Glazyev talks about democratizing international trade via a new trading currency based on a basket of currencies and commodities. This Bancor Wiki entry will be helpful for those unfamiliar with this issue. Reference links 7-10 also offer further insight. As the Wiki notes, the problem's been allowed to languish for too long and clearly a solution must be found.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 22:28 utc | 84

Roger | Jul 4 2022 21:50 utc | 70

Yes, I am aware of the Bretton Woods system, and even after that many (most?) countries had some sort of fixed rates for their currencies. But could there be a 'new Bretton Woods' with enough countries able to agree on somewhat fixed rates? My guess is no, at least not until China is strong enough to, in essence, dictate the rates.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 22:34 utc | 85

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 21:01 utc | 53

The fate of the greenback as a reserve currency will follow and mimic the path of sterling as it was losing the top ranking as a reserve currency, a gradual reduction in the holdings of the dollar by the world's central banks, there won't be any sudden collapse, it's not in the interest of any of the central banks holding the dollar, China has over six trillions of the stuff, more than half tied up in a large number of projects outside China financed in dollars, the rest mostly in bonds, a collapse in the dollar would cost her dearly.

By the turn of the last century, some 70% of the world's central banks were in dollars, two years ago that was only 58%, the ratio's likely to sink further, by the end of this decade it could be less than half of the aggregate holdings, but no sudden collapse is likely.

Whichever e-mail address Baron posts under he gets a message 'invalid e-mail address', why?

Posted by: Baron | Jul 4 2022 22:37 utc | 86

Jonathan W. (63),
Jeffrey Sachs did more to ruin the Russian economy in the 1990's than anyone outside government did. He should have been imprisoned for his crimes.

Posted by: FHTEX | Jul 4 2022 22:39 utc | 87

https://t.me/HersonVestnik/5951

reportedly in Kherson there were found reports, OSCE sent to SBU about location of Russian army units in adjacent Russian regions.

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 4 2022 22:41 utc | 88

Noémio Ramos #13

The wishes (or a dream) of the Lords of the “Western” armament industry – of the US and its colonies – would be that the production speed of their factories should approach, as closely as possible, the speed at which their weapons are destroyed in the Ukraine. But if the “West” is not careful, and does not balance the situation well between the quantities and the two speeds in question, it risks demilitarizing itself as well. Beyond Ukraine the whole “West”.

Here is the bad news: even if they were out of ammunition, no one in their right mind would invade the 'west'. Think of what they would conquer for a moment and you will get the picture.

Perhaps France is the exception to my case. Yes, they love their sense of superior empire so I guess they might get a thrill from flying those clapped out F35 war booty as they are much more exciting than revving the Renault in the bleak streets of Paris.

But other that that is no further depth of idiocy to be found in invading a weaponless 'west'.

Remain calm, the just in time principle now only applies to the eradication of nazis in Ukraine.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 4 2022 22:42 utc | 89

Baron @87--

There're several glitches in the system currently that cause incorrect message boxes to appear. I ignore them by pressing Preview again, having first copied my comment.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 22:42 utc | 90

Posted by: Down South | Jul 4 2022 18:36 utc | 15

My own vague sense is that for whatever reasons Stalin and the USSR got the geopolitical position of Ukraine right, as southern equivalent to Belarus.

It may be my old love organic chemistry speaking but a little wobble-room, flexibility, or extra "degree of freedom" or two makes things a little more stable, and the enhanced compartmentalization too.

It will take awhile to reach that goal, especially since Ukraine is exposed to many more and complex external perturbations than Belarus, but as long as things keep improving for ordinary people and everyone is patient it should be achievable.

I know the DPR and LPR don't want to hear this, but let them reflect that the Galicianist-Banderist violence aimed at them was amplified billionsfold by the United States and its petrodollars under the influence of the shocking Galicianist infiltrations of that country's political, foreign-policy and military apparatuses, while US counterintelligence sat idly by.

The worst at least of those Galicianists (and not just from the US) should be Eichmannized and put on public trial in Donetsk, as opportunity avails (patience).

Posted by: John Kennard | Jul 4 2022 22:45 utc | 91

The fate of the greenback as a reserve currency will follow and mimic the path of sterling ...
Posted by: Baron | Jul 4 2022 22:37 utc | 87

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Or the greenback could follow the path of the German Mark, French Frank and the other currencies that were subsumed into the Euro, and be subsumed into a new monetary unit.

That is, it could happen quite suddenly.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 22:47 utc | 92

The pen is mightier than the sword and with Russia the superglue building/mending Iran-Saudi relations and China-India detente, the writing's on the wall street for America. They'll not gain a son (Ukraine ) but lose one (Saudi ).

Emissaries/Diplomats/Gazprom/Wagner/Sarmat fizzing around the globe bearing gifts, a much needed (US-EU) get out clause and a cast-iron long term Agreement you can believe in, it's no wonder then that the ailing bankrupt old empire is thrashing around throwing all its toys out of the pram.

Starve The Beast

Posted by: WTFUD | Jul 4 2022 22:49 utc | 93

Re #4 post: Nuclear plants and security don't belong in the same sentence. The "for" argument (dependable, pollution, economics, etc) works if most of reality is ignored.

To wit: Nuke plants MUST have access to water to not melt down. Climate change is once again afoot, whatever its cause. Coast lines and river paths WILL alter. Eathquakes and tsunamis will occur. Wars can stop plant maintenance.

Nothing can wish that away.

Melting cores will render large portions of earth uninhabitable. Or require emergency removal of the fuel at mind-boggling expense; if even possible. On balance; full picture: Nuke power is a gamble likely to lose.

Posted by: Jimp | Jul 4 2022 22:51 utc | 94

Baron | Jul 4 2022 22:37 utc | 87

This is actually pretty much what I am thinking. Dollar will lose it's status, I don't doubt that at all. Just that it will take a while. Trying to hasten it will likely not work.

Because the two most important players in this, US and China want it to be gradual. Well, US maybe does not want to let go at all, so they try various delaying tactics.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jul 4 2022 22:56 utc | 95

Re: Joe6pack

Just ignore the twat... he's only let out for an hour a day, he will soon be gone.

Posted by: NOTJoe6pack | Jul 4 2022 23:08 utc | 96

Shoigu reports to Putin in Russian. Not much of anything new here. Putin provides a bit of info here:

"As you know, Colonel-General Alexander Lapin and Army General Sergei Vladimirovich Surovikin also reported to me today on the progress of the tasks assigned to them and their proposals for the development of offensive operations. Both the Defence Ministry and the General Staff are referring to all the proposals of commanders on the ground."

The on-the-spot commanders are now running the SMO.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 23:09 utc | 97

One explosive issue that has been largely swept under the rug by much of the Anglophone media is the hand of Canada and its sponsorship of Ukrainian fascists for *decades*. Canadian regime leaders like Chrystia Freeland are only the tip of this Canadian-Ukrofascist iceberg.

In many ways, so-called "social democratic" Canada is even more fanatically pro-fascist than the United States is. And this is likely one reason why Canada is so aggressively Russophobic.

Canadian imperialism’s fascist friends—Part 1: Ottawa’s decades-long alliance with the Ukrainian far-right and the NATO war on Russia
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/16/vxen-m16.html

Posted by: ak74 | Jul 4 2022 23:14 utc | 98

Russia's MFA on what appears to be an attempted Color Revolution in Uzbekistan:

We are closely following the events in the friendly Republic of Uzbekistan, where a nationwide discussion of amendments and additions to the Constitution of the country is taking place in line with the course of its leadership to improve the legal foundations for the development of the state.

Against this background, the riots in Nukus were provoked by violators of the law and resulted in acts of violence and vandalism. There are human casualties and injured, including among law enforcement officers of the Republic of Uzbekistan. According to the Russian Embassy, at the moment no injured Russian citizens have been identified in Karakalpakstan.

We advocate the solution of any issues within the legal framework, and not through street riots.

We welcome the measures taken by the leadership of Uzbekistan and are confident that they will contribute to the full normalization of the situation in this part of the country.

Here's more from TASS:

"Mass riots occurred in Karakalpakstan on July 1-2 in protest against plans to change the region’s status in Uzbekistan’s amended constitution. The authorities said that people had been misled in a bid to seize local government agencies. Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev declared a state of emergency in the region and dropped plans to introduce constitutional amendments that would deprive Karakalpakstan of the status of a sovereign republic within Uzbekistan and the right to secede from the country through a referendum." [My Emphasis]

That's a built-in problem ready to be exploited by CIA. Gotta purge the 5th columnists then reintroduce the proposed changes. The heavy attack on police give away the instigating agency.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2022 23:21 utc | 99

From karlof1's link

Units that took part in active combat operations and achieved success and victories in the Luhansk direction, of course, should rest and increase their combat capabilities. And other military formations, including the Vostok group and the Zapad group, must carry out their tasks according to previously approved plans, according to a single plan, and I hope that everything will happen in their areas in the same way as it has happened in Luhansk so far.

I don't know the areas of these groupings but the Izium front has been resting for the last couple of weeks so I guess there will be an offensive from that direction now.
There has been next to no movement at southern Donetsk since virtually the start of the second phase so perhaps something happening there too.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 4 2022 23:27 utc | 100

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