What is the pulse out there?

Here at MoA, and similar sites, we know about the Nazis
being supported by NATO, and we know about the imperialistic designs
of NATO itself.

But we, or rather I, don't have a handle on what the rest of the citizens
of the US know. Polls aren't reliable (!), the MSM doesn't get it's
beliefs from the people. So what do other people believe and know?

In my limited world of friends, relatives, associates and neighbors
it *appears* that they generally buy into the MSM. But I don't know
what the wider demographics believe is going on.

I expect that they also buy into the MSM, but that is contradicted by
what we hear about loss in confidence in the MSM. Do people generally
have no confidence in the MSM and politicians yet hold the beliefs
promulgated by these same scoundrels?

Posted by: librul | Jul 3 2022 13:03 utc | 1

From earlier this week:

karlof1 | Jun 28 2022 21:41 utc | 140

"Will Europeans awaken from their Through the Lookingglass Dream and realize they're now in servitude before they slide further underwater?"

The power the US wields over its Euro vassals is eerie. Somehow corruption, bribes, threats, extortion, and/or blackmail don't seem adequate to explain how it can march so many countries into depression and national suicide. This civilizational struggle seems to have a metaphysical dimension to it, an epic good-vs-evil, love-vs-fear conflict. It's as if the West truly is a manifestation of the Great Satan as Iran calls the US. Yours and Escobar's description of how the US has subverted democracy (while pretending to be its champion) and colonized Europe reminds me of the verse in Tolkien's great saga about the enthralling rings forged by the Dark Lord Sauron, especially the one ring of power that takes possession of human souls:

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jun 29 2022 4:13 utc | 228

***

Did some quick recon through the Palantir…

Nine Rings for the Eurodwarves, NATO-befooled
Seven for th’ Intermarium, Nazi-beghouled
Five for the Five Eyes alliance of spies
One Ring for Capital’s Empire of Lies
In Rules-Based Ordor where the Dollars spawn
One Ring to own them all, One Ring to unmind them
One Ring to privatize and, indebted, bind them
In Rules-Based Ordor where the Dollars spawn

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jul 3 2022 13:20 utc | 2

Covid - It ain't over until they say it's over

Posted by: Subtropical | Jul 3 2022 13:39 utc | 3

The power the US wields over its Euro vassals is eerie.

Really ? And not one European vassal will spend lavishly on Defence to match US waste ! It is Americans who will bankrupt themselves for the Military and have no limit to spending.........even when they cannot afford health care or education.

Not one single European country has really increased Defence spending.......even UK has reduced commitments on F-35 and reduced its Army strength massively not to mention its armaments

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jul 3 2022 13:57 utc | 4

Peoples opinions depend on the información they receive. That is why sites like MoA are important and should be spread. One or two at a time.

Posted by: c | Jul 3 2022 14:33 utc | 5

"...Do people generally have no confidence in the MSM and politicians yet hold the beliefs promulgated by these same scoundrels?"

Posted by: librul | Jul 3 2022 13:03 utc | 1

Excellent question to begin this thread, librul. Thank you. I do believe, this 4th of July weekend in the US, that is exactly the case. Well, not exactly -- the latter part of that is a mixed bag. The structure, such as it is, is still standing -- I'll use the analogy of the current golf tournament on mainstream, some of which I watched yesterday. All hardworking folk trying to maintain the illusion of continuing drama based on a structure of wealth, in a middle America setting. Enormous forced smiles and customary genuflection to the usual sponsor who has 'donated so much to so many worthy causes.'

It all sounded extremely hollow. One shout from the gallery as a young hopeful teed off that sounded very much like 'Damn the revolutionaries!' (I couldn't quite hear it. Maybe it was 'Damn the torpedoes!' instead.) The course was easy, way too easy. The young hopefuls making incredible scores over par, bless their hearts.

For what it is worth, rain continues here. And my neighbors across the road still hang out their huge flag covering the garage door in front. Lovely cool weather for midsummer, which it is, in spite of what the weathermen on tv try to insist about 'the beginning of summer'. Get it straight, weatherman; the solstice just passed, barely noticed, the sun is going away now. Days beginning to shorten. Summer is half over, you clots!

People are in disarray; which is the beginning of true thought. They are befuddled; brains slowly kicking into gear. This could be the start of something new, something better. There's the bottom of the barrel, folk, and we're all in it together, all the players, all the watchers, all the movers and shakers. All the rest of us. Bottom of the barrel; only way out is UP.

(Always the optimist, I)

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 14:59 utc | 6

Get it straight, weatherman; the solstice just passed, barely noticed, the sun is going away now. Days beginning to shorten. Summer is half over, you clots!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 14:59 utc | 6

The measurement of the solstice summer and the weather (mean daily temperatures) summer are 2 different things. As you have no doubt observed in your ample time on earth, the weather lags the solstice by about 6-8 weeks.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 15:09 utc | 7

librul @1 It seems that most people I know in real life buy the bullsh...
Online areas I frequent consist of more skeptical people.
What boggles my mind is that people have forgotten in only one year that cold and flu season is NOT in the summer.
In 2020 they didn't try to pull that. The announced covid numbers fell in the summer, as was always expected for all respiratory viruses.
Then in 2021 they rolled out Delta in the middle of the summer and people fell for it, so they are doing it again.
Where is the skepticism there? And why are voices not raised demanding that ALL bioweapon research labs be closed immediately?

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 3 2022 15:18 utc | 8

I wonder if the fellows at Fort Detrick who designed and disseminated the SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon, thinking that China was an easy target, knew that it would ultimately herald the fall of the collective West? The brilliance of American arrogance shines so bright it is blinding. Well, no need to fret about that, for historical reflection is for losers; the United States' newly concocted recipe, an indomitable mixture of seething anger, rising unemployment, mass gun availability, and prevalent mental illness, all served on itself, will definitely turn out well.

Posted by: Bill | Jul 3 2022 15:36 utc | 9

"...The measurement of the solstice summer and the weather (mean daily temperatures) summer are 2 different things. As you have no doubt observed in your ample time on earth, the weather lags the solstice by about 6-8 weeks."

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 15:09 utc | 7

I did say "the bottom of the barrel"! Forsooth, perhaps, the Bottom of the barrel?

"...If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumb'red here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend.

If you pardon, we will mend.
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call..."

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 15:56 utc | 10

Re: Airbus sales to China (gazumping Boeing). Boy oh boy, do I want this story to be true!? YES!
I've been waiting for France to push back against US-UK duplicity surrounding the AUKUS submarine SNAFU. If the story is true then it strongly suggests that the French would rather be faithful to France than to NATO/ZATO/OTAN.

Posted by: Hoarsewhlsperer | Jul 3 2022 16:12 utc | 11

"The power the US wields over its Euro vassals is eerie. Somehow corruption, bribes, threats, extortion, and/or blackmail don't seem adequate to explain how it can march so many countries into depression and national suicide."

US bought, blackmail, co-opted Politicians, Multinational company, financiers and the Media. Not the people.

Posted by: Lucci | Jul 3 2022 16:26 utc | 12

The reason for the Mpemba effect is that the system (at least the original ice cream) is a far-from-equilibrium system. And you can't analyze it with equilibrium thermo.

Posted by: Platero | Jul 3 2022 16:38 utc | 13

NoAm. Gen'l officers: perfumed princes was the term, iirc, traditionally used

Posted by: Platero | Jul 3 2022 16:43 utc | 14

Covid - It ain't over until it is over:

Interesting data comparing China with ultra tough regulations. Versus the five eyes countries USSA/UK where the health care systems crashed and burned. These countries' populations consist of mostly slackers, fools lacking common sense, denialati, paid shills telling lies, and other assorted losers.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 3 2022 16:46 utc | 15

I wonder if the fellows at Fort Detrick who designed and disseminated the SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon, thinking that China was an easy target, knew that it would ultimately herald the fall of the collective West? The brilliance of American arrogance shines so bright it is blinding. Well, no need to fret about that, for historical reflection is for losers; the United States' newly concocted recipe, an indomitable mixture of seething anger, rising unemployment, mass gun availability, and prevalent mental illness, all served on itself, will definitely turn out well.

Posted by: Bill | Jul 3 2022 15:36 utc | 9

Yes, well said. Do we really need enemies with these clowns running things? I think not.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 3 2022 16:50 utc | 16

thanks for all your hard work b... i really appreciate it and hope other compensate you for it too at some point...

@ librul | Jul 3 2022 13:03 utc | 1

i ponder this often and like how others have replied to your question in different ways.. i really don't think it matters on an important level.. most people get caught up in their own individual lives and don't have the free time to devote to following these issues closely like those here at moa.. most people just ''go along'' like sheep... in the final analysis, the sheep will keep up with those who lead... that would be those who follow things closely and aren't distracted by b.s. and propaganda... it might seem like b.s. and propaganda are working, but really they don't in the end... it is just the question of how much time it takes before things correct.. i think this continues to happen and in spite of the death and suffering of innocent people, we all want a better world... a world without exploitation and abuse towards others, or lording it over others... almost everyone wants this... be happy in that! the sheep will follow along and those leaders of integrity, compassion and vision will lead... any other fake leaders will typically fall away soon enough..

track off silje nergaard's port of cal cdl shout out to @ waynorinorway | Jul 3 2022 7:47 utc | 246 ! thanks for your posts and what you said on the previous thread..

Posted by: james | Jul 3 2022 16:51 utc | 17

The article Bernhard links about the freezing water controversy is a very nice, diverting read for a Sunday morning -- ending up with explorations of bouncing from one equilibrium state to another. At one level, the controversy is merely syntactical -- concerning precise definitions of phase-states and how we place the measuring device... but that measuring wrinkle almost infuses a quantum subtext to the questions raised: Can we determine which glass of water freezes first without skewing results in the process of measurement?

About a week ago, I found myself attempting to explain infrared heat photons, floating upward from Earth's sundrenched surface, getting tangled up in GHG molecules on the way up, then ejected in a random (50% non-upward) direction -- the insulative effect of greenhouse warming. Like the freezing problem posed by the possible Mpemba effect, it's the somewhat measureable, totally incomprehensible dance of matter and energy -- particles or waves, or what?

I'm immersed in Louis de Broglie's classic The Revolution in Physics (1935), on the times, about a hundred years ago, when folks discovered what they could about very tiny stuff. Enough to make the bomb go boom, anyhow...

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 3 2022 16:56 utc | 18

During a chat, someone mentions Joe Biden's behavior with women during the NATO summit; apparently tv news showed Biden putting his arm around womens waists. Consternation. Someone says Americans are very friendly people, and this is a normal expression of friendship for Americans. Everybody agrees, and conversation moves on.
I think after 77 years of occupation Europeans are brainwashed.

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 3 2022 17:10 utc | 19

from the international 360 article - Conversation with American Mercenary, DPR POW: “Be Better Informed”

"Portuguese journalist Bruno Carvalho, with whom I worked in Donetsk, and who remains there on assignment, suggested that one of the hold-ups in these prisoner exchanges with DPR may be that a foreign government, such as the UK or US, agreeing to negotiate such an exchange might be tantamount to a recognition of the Republic, which on a diplomatic level, could have major ripple effects. After all, Russian President Putin’s recognition of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics proved to be the great harbinger of the recent escalation in what many see as a western proxy war against Russia."

Posted by: james | Jul 3 2022 17:27 utc | 20

Some DR. JEFFREY SACHS says that after two years leading THE LANCET'S Committee on Covid he's convinced that it originated in a US biolab.

He doesn't know for sure but that's his opinion.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jul 3 2022 17:45 utc | 21

Here's the source:

https://gatecenter.org/encuentro-jeffrey-sach

No time to watch this in full now, much less to conduct any analysis.

The outfit seems to have ties with some high-profile spanish politicians (Zapatero, Pajín)

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jul 3 2022 17:51 utc | 22

On the Ukraine thread, some focus is on the Finland/Sweden situation, which could be an interesting subject here. I'll begin with a link to Varlaam monastery music I am familiar with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMtyTXDc9Fw

I've always thought of this monastery as part of Finland, but I'm glad I did some investigation and found it became Russian in 1939. The monks then moved to the north of Finland, where New Varlaam is now located. This is the only Orthodox monastery in Finland, and looks to be a lovely place, as is the original.

It makes me wonder, now that Russia is in a realignment of its own, whether some helpful contacts are being made between the two. I would hope that they are doing better than Ukraine with the controversial church situation there.

My own searches haven't given rise to anything other than touristy stuff so far. I would appreciate any information, especially from our new Finnish bar visitors, if they know.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 18:04 utc | 23

Apologies - my verse quote at 10 was not my own but from the last lines of Shakespeare's play, A Midsummer Night's Dream

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 18:33 utc | 24

migueljose | July 03, 2022 at 11:52
Thanks for nice words. Hope things are better with your former colleagues.

james | Jul 3 2022 16:51 utc | 17
Thanks for that. Silky Sultry Silje! Fantasies are free:-)

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 3 2022 19:20 utc | 25

Thanks to Big Al at the Saker site, this oldie but a goodie concerning FDR's Lend Lease program with the USSR:

https://www.rferl.org/a/
did-us-lend-lease-aid-tip-the-balance-in-soviet-fight-against-nazi-germany/30599486.html

There have been some recent crazy arguments on alignments during WW2. Sorry if this is a repeat and I missed it earlier, but I hadn't seen these facts presented then.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 19:22 utc | 26

juliania | Jul 3 2022 19:22 utc | 26

Link doesn't work.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 3 2022 19:39 utc | 27

Do people generally have no confidence in the MSM and politicians yet hold the beliefs promulgated by these same scoundrels?

Posted by: librul | Jul 3 2022 13:03 utc | 1

In the US at least, accredited propaganda centers (that is, schools) almost continually condition their attendees to implicitly trust experts in general and the government in particular. I've nonetheless encountered many people who question the government in some domains, but hardly any who, regardless of the domain, treat the government's position as no more than a starting point for further investigation.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 3 2022 19:45 utc | 28

Posted by: Hoarsewhlsperer | Jul 3 2022 16:12 utc | 11:

The Airbus sales to Chinese airlines is causing upset stomach here in the Empire no doubt:

Boeing Disappointed

In the article, it cited potential loss of Boeing sales in the Chinese market of $38Billion to $51Billion per year and said this equates to loss of job for 167K to 225K workers. So, in the aircraft industry worker salaries average $225K/annum per worker??? Wow, this is higher than I thought. Salary figures usually only include wage+ benefit costs. On top of that one needs to add other loading of costs such as travel/per diem/office/factory, etc. etc. This is one well-paying labor field.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 3 2022 19:55 utc | 29

Sorry, the link I posted was labelled 404. Here is the link:

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1269678.shtml

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 3 2022 19:57 utc | 30

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 15:56 utc | 10

It is no time to discourse, so Chrish save me: the day is hot, and the weather, and the wars, and the king, and the dukes: it is no time to discourse. The town is beseeched, and the trumpet call us to the breach; and we talk, and, be Chrish, do nothing: 'tis shame for us all: so God sa' me, 'tis shame to stand still; it is shame, by my hand: and there is throats to be cut, and works to be done; and there ish nothing done, so Chrish sa' me, la!

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 20:07 utc | 31

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 15:56 utc | 10

It is no time to discourse, so Chrish save me: the day is hot, and the weather, and the wars, and the king, and the dukes: it is no time to discourse. The town is beseeched, and the trumpet call us to the breach; and we talk, and, be Chrish, do nothing: 'tis shame for us all: so God sa' me, 'tis shame to stand still; it is shame, by my hand: and there is throats to be cut, and works to be done; and there ish nothing done, so Chrish sa' me, la!

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 20:07 utc | 32

Posted by: Bill | Jul 3 2022 15:36 utc | 9

Unless evidence otherwise emerges, I'm betting the release of SARS-CoV-2 was accidental. I don't for a second doubt that it was engineered at Detrick w/ help at Wuhan, however I keep thinking back to another (for now) conspiracy theory that the US was and is developing other biological warfare incl. viruses targeted at specific gene pools (i.e., Slavs), so if that is the case, why wouldn't the SARS-CoV-2 virus have been more specific to Asian/Han Chinese genetics? It doesn't seem that it is, and while I'm no expert on virology, if it was the researchers in China would have singled that fact out already.

Hence my theory is that it was most likely an accident coinciding with the Military Games, likely tying back to a lab leak in the US and an exposed US service member competing in China just prior to the public acknowledgement that it was spreading in the community in Wuhan and the stuff about the 'wet markets' starting to circulate. For it to have been intentional, and being pretty sure it's not targeted at specific gene pools (not that I know how this would even be done), there would have been an incredibly stupid person at the top of the decision chain. Then again, that also seems to be a common (genetic?) trait of top American officials.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 3 2022 20:12 utc | 33

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 15:56 utc | 10

It is no time to discourse, so Chrish save me: The day is hot, and the weather, and the wars, and the king, and the dukes: It is no time to discourse. The town is beseeched. And the trumpet call us to the breach; and we talk, and, be Chrish, do nothing: 'tis shame for us all: So God sa' me, 'tis shame to stand still; It is shame, by my hand: and there is throats to be cut, and works to be done; and there ish nothing done, so Chrish sa' me, la!

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 20:16 utc | 34

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 3 2022 19:45 utc | 28

The one major area where Americans are propagandized not to question authority is law enforcement. They are also routinely beaten and murdered for not "complying" with the often contradictory and confusing orders of LEOs. Sadly the Supreme(acist) Court (usually on partisan lines, but not always) is busy making it much more difficult to hold said abuses and abusers accountable. We are also inculcated not to question US military "might" or intentions, with every atrocity or war crime committed being relegated to the "ooopsie, sorry about that, we weren't really meaning to do that, we promise, we're just fighting commies and spreading democracy" bin, even in high school history courses about undeclared wars like Vietnam and Iraq. I've seen the curricula.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 3 2022 20:18 utc | 35

In answer to Librul's query @ 1, in my very limited circle of acquaintances, my immediate manager at work knows that MSM news on Ukraine is lies and that the Ukrainians are losing badly. He knows that Ukraine is dominated by neo-Nazis. Some of the IT people may be aware of the true situation or are at least sceptical of the reporting on it.

It seems most Australians are tired of MSM news reporting as it exists here and treat it as just part of the ambient background. On domestic issues, we know our govts have lied to us or have not done what they should have done - yet on foreign policy issues we trust them implicitly, especially if the foreign policy minister at the time happens to be a woman.

On the other hand, back in February I attended a talk by Zoom given by Keith Suter who often appears on one of our free-to-air TV channels to discuss international geopolitics and who teaches in the US. His talk on Ukraine was very disheartening and what he knew or appeared to know about Ukraine over the past 8 years didn't amount to the proverbial hill of beans. Part of the discussion after the talk revolved around why Ukraine has never been admitted as a NATO member; I said Ukraine had to fulfill certain requirements (stable borders, no internal conflicts, ability to contribute to collective defence) and he brushed off my answer with disdain. One would think a so-called expert on current issues in Ukraine would at least know something about how NATO admits or dies not admit new members.

As for the other attendees, mostly retirees, they had views about Russia that had barely changed from the 1980s and all were agreed on the idea of Russia being a military rustbucket and a failing state. When I mentioned that Russia had hypersonic technology, the statement completely passed them by.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 3 2022 20:49 utc | 36

Although the topic is China, the reader should also include Russia while reading "Adhering to people-centered principle to promote high-quality economic development" for that is the basis for both nation's political-economies. The opening paragraphs speak for both nations before the writer begins dealing with Chinese specifics:

In its pursuit of bringing happiness to the Chinese people and realizing the rejuvenation of the Chinese nation, the CPC has led the Chinese people in creating a phenomenon of rapid economic development and long-term social stability rarely seen in the world. This has become one of the most exciting success stories of this era.

From "ensuring adequate food and clothing supply" to "completing the construction of a moderately prosperous society in all respects," the work of the CPC has centered on one theme: Improving people's livelihoods.

This high-quality development has had different meanings at different stages. Under the premise of the fourth industrial revolution, high-quality development should focus on the driving force of innovation in manufacturing, technology, and management mode, etc.

When you step back after combining the potential of Eurasia's four economic engines--China, Russia, India, and Iran--and think about the possibilities for not just those nations but the entire world, it's easy to slip into a sense of awe. It's highly unfortunate that at the very outset of creating BRI/EAEU the Collective West fell into the trap of its own making as Putin highlighted for it couldn't conceive of any other pathway despite several being available. Even now, it still remains possible to alter direction for any Collective West member nation, but only a few seem to be aware of the possibility. Lavrov and Putin have both said the door remains open for those willing to enter. But because of the censorship, few people know of that possibility, or because of the propaganda are able to believe the offer genuine.

Because of the intense focus on Ukraine, NATO/EU, very little discussion of Xi's recent speeches and offers has occurred. The linked article mentions Xiong’an, an entirely new creation--an intelligent city. Several months ago, I linked to an article about Xiong'an, and I do so again, "City of the future: Xiong’an becomes a model for urban high-quality devt under CPC leadership". This bit ought to tempt readers:

The establishment of the Xiong'an New Area is a major historic strategic choice made by the Chinese central government that has far-reaching historical influence in terms of helping phase out functions from Beijing that are not related to the capital, exploring a new model of optimized development in densely-populated and economically advanced areas, restructuring the urban layout in the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei region, and cultivating the new driving force for innovative development.

Compared with special economic zones in Pudong and Shenzhen, Xiong'an is designed to represent China's vision of its next stage of development in several areas. It is expected to become a modern high-level city that is green, low-carbon, intelligent, and livable by the end of 2035. By the middle of this century, it should become an important part of the world-level Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei city cluster.

Russia in its Soviet past has constructed new cities from scratch and will do so again in Siberia and its Far East. I expect them to be Russian versions of Xiong'an. And such cities will also rise in India, Iran and elsewhere within the Global South. Oddly enough, the Outlaw US Empire has places where something similar might be built, but the mindset of its Neoliberal Parasites isn't aimed at building but deconstructing, which is a big reason why it can't do much of anything other than stealing the property of others.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 3 2022 20:53 utc | 37

@ juliania | Jul 3 2022 18:04 utc | 23

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Valamo

does this help shed more light?

@ Oriental Voice | Jul 3 2022 19:57 utc | 30

thanks.. good article..

Posted by: james | Jul 3 2022 20:59 utc | 38

Yikes. Anyone else follow the link to the 1945 article on American generals? I perused the rest of the site, and I gotta say that place is full of militaristic right-wing NATO lovin' garbage and arguments on "economics" that Michael Hudson regularly guts in his writing and interviews.

Some headlines from 1945:

* Revealed: Putin's Evil Plan to Conquer and Steal Parts of Ukraine

* Attack Beijing Or An Invasion Fleet? How Taiwan Should Use Its Cruise Missiles

* Russia's Defeat at Snake Island Is a Big Setback In the Ukraine War

* Will Inflation Spike if Biden Cancels Student Debt? (LMAO on that one. As if Biden wasn't just a Wall Street Republican)

Enough headlines at that site alone to comprise one of b's funny compilations like "Is China blah blah blah?"

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 3 2022 21:14 utc | 39

Copenhagen shooting: Mass shooting in shopping centre in Denmark

Several people are dead and more are wounded after a shocking mass shooting in a shopping centre in Copenhagen, Denmark.

Danish police said several people had been wounded, adding that they had arrested one person in his twenties.

“We now know that there are several dead,” Copenhagen police chief Soren Thomassen told a Sunday evening press conference.

Thomassen described the apprehended suspect, as a 22-year-old “ethnic Dane,” but said it was too early to establish a motive.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 3 2022 21:31 utc | 40

librul @1
with the exception of my children everyone I know believes MSM
They got the flags
they got the bracelettes
they got the bombardment of news from Joy Whoopi and The Gang in the first month of the conflict and no longer want to hear about evidence to the contrary.

With the folks I don't know; I see cracks.
Disgruntled frontliners who are beginning to question the relation of jabs to The Passport. People discovering the WEF agenda.
Those folks are asking all the right questions.
I live in Canada and am involved in marches.
100 Monkeys
As people feel the burn they will be less vulnerable to covernment narratives.

Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2022 21:49 utc | 41

freudian slip

Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2022 21:50 utc | 42

Posted by: james | Jul 3 2022 16:51 utc | 17

Thank You James for your positive and thoughtful comment
you are right of course.

:-)

Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2022 22:03 utc | 43

Passerby @19
an improvement over his past behaviour

the pedergrasp
His rheumy eyes are mesmerized
by the pint-sized lady at her mother's side
He maneuvers himself to stand behind
this little pre-woman he has in mind
and as he bends to sniff her hair
he grazes the breast that's almost there
The cameras roll but he dont care
He's suave he's rich he's debonaire
He's Joe O'Biden and he's not all there
This empty suit follows suit
and he wears jusa's jackboot

Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2022 22:06 utc | 44

Tom Q Collins @33
I concur

Soldiers came to the games
with a virus in their veins
giving all their Crown of Strains;
a present from Fort Detrick

Homeward bound contestants
all sickened with the flu
were carrying contagion
deployed by you know who

We must be number one
we must kill the competition
even if it takes
a biological emission

Once the enemy is ravaged
we'll sell our vaccination
but not too soon until we prune
our elder population

The gift that keeps on giving
to the Super Pharma Suits
aiding in the sieving
of the coughers that it loots

Dissenters will be broken
better get on board
The Overlords have spoken
take the prick or get the sword

Which jab do you prefer
heart attack or stroke?
if you wanna work or have a roof
better come and take a poke

Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2022 22:15 utc | 45

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 3 2022 16:46 utc | 15

"Interesting data comparing China with ultra tough regulations. Versus the five eyes countries USSA/UK where the health care systems crashed and burned. These countries' populations consist of mostly slackers, fools lacking common sense, denialati, paid shills telling lies, and other assorted losers."

More than likely that the figures from both sides are quite wrong and for different reasons...

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 22:44 utc | 46

Many thanks, b, for another weekly compilation. I started reading that first article about America in a world with limits. The author noted that unlike in the 90’s when the USA had no competitors, now there’s China. Do the trans-Atlantic insults to Europe ever stop, one wonders? Or is this over-compensating for the fact that Europe and Asia, famous for being home to China, are actually on the same land mass?

Thanks for that intriguing article on hot vs. cold water freezing more rapidly. So what you’re saying then, b, is that warmer sea temperatures will result in faster and better freezing of the polar ice caps in the colder seasons?

I’m glad you brought up Covid. I was reading through SVR.de recently and was surprised by the amount of coverage of it. It’s very unlike the situation in Canada at the moment, although I think there may be more monkeypox in Montréal than in all of Germany.

So Germany’s health minister, Karl Lauterbach, gets lots of SVR coverage —
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/karl-lauterbach-germany-health-minister/

“Karl Lauterbach, an adjunct faculty member in the Department of Health Policy and Management and an alumnus of Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, was sworn in as Germany’s health minister on December 8, 2021.”

I see (from my lone source of SVR.de) that he is facing some challenges from the FDP’s Christian Dürr and Bavaria’s Klaus Holetschek. Neither of whom are Harvard alumni. Seriously though, with the high vaccination rate in Germany and compliance with health restrictions, where are these new outbreaks coming from? SVR breaks it out by German region … I don’t get it, but it’s an interesting graph nonetheless:
https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/coronavirus-aktueller-live-blog-in-bw-100.html

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 3 2022 22:50 utc | 47

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 3 2022 16:50 utc | 16

"I wonder if the fellows at Fort Detrick who designed and disseminated the SARS-CoV-2 bioweapon, thinking that China was an easy target, knew that it would ultimately herald the fall of the collective West?"
Posted by: Bill | Jul 3 2022 15:36 utc | 9

"Yes, well said. Do we really need enemies with these clowns running things? I think not."

I think it's far more likely that globalist network scientists in both US and Chinese (and other) labs cooperated before one got released somewhere and some evidence suggests several different ones.

So Unz argues that 'America' attacked 'China' and many argue that 'China' deliberately let it go from air flights hub Wuhan around Chinese New Year before locking down to attack 'America' and the West but I doubt it's that binary. Look at the clearly coordinated way the whole world caught lock-down fever soon after the flu came out even though quarantining the healthy has never before been advocated on a mass scale. So many niggles like that.

So if I had to bet on it, I'd say that this was part of an internationally coordinated asymmetric war on the status quo as part of an overall campaign to effect socio-political collapse after which they can Build Back Better and Reset the entire western polity including political, cultural, medical and financial systems.

The interesting thing is that there could be many different globalist factions who don't necessarily see eye to eye participating in this as long as each feel things are driving in the direction they want. (And they all want the collapse of the West, it seems!)

My two cents!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 22:52 utc | 48

Twenty-five year-old Jayland Walker, executed by Akron police while fleeing on foot in the middle of the night: 90 shots, 60 hits. Probably the worst instance of police terrorism so-far, since Biden and what's-her-name took office. Bodycam footage released today, for those who can stomach official execution porn. Could be an interesting week ahead, in Akron, Ohio.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 3 2022 23:02 utc | 49

Ryan Knight ☭ @ProudSocialist - 18:48 UTC · Jul 2, 2022

Newly released audio exposes the Dem party operatives who posed as Green party volunteers in a covert campaign to kick @MatthewPHoh off the ballot. Democrats are not fighting for democracy. They are fighting to preserve the oligarchy by rigging elections against third parties.

Carolina Journal @CarolinaJournal - 13:39 UTC · Jul 1, 2022

Below is a recording where an alleged Democratic operative poses as a Green Party volunteer and asks them to remove their name from the petition for Green Party ballot recognition. @DavidLarson83

#ncpol

[audio]

Wait, wait, wait. I thought the U.S. was a “democracy”? The land of the free and the home of the brave, you know? From sea to shining sea? Have we been… lied to?

Posted by: S | Jul 3 2022 23:08 utc | 50

JPierre @grosmorne29 - 4:25 UTC · Jul 3, 2022

Today is Patrice Lumumba’s birthday and all I can think about is how Belgium had the nerve to return his tooth to his family 60 yrs after having him assassinated and his body dissolved in acid - without apology.

When will the macabre crimes of the West against Africa be avenged?

Posted by: S | Jul 3 2022 23:11 utc | 51

It's almost hilarious that there is an increase in the flu called covid, even though lots and lots of folks have been vaccinated...not once, or twice or thrice but four times...some even got boosters...something funny going on...

Posted by: notlurking | Jul 3 2022 23:37 utc | 52

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 3 2022 19:39 utc | 27

Sorry, waynorinorway. If you go to Saker site, the top far right newsitem headlined "Lisichansk Locals" then scroll down a way to a comment by Big Al - that link got me to the very interesting site - I will see if I can copy info there for you. I will go and try it again.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 23:46 utc | 53

Here it is, copied from the link (sans some interesting graphics)

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'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?
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American and Soviet pilots pose in front of a Bell P-39 Airacobra, supplied to the Soviet Union under the Lend-Lease program.
'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?
May 07, 2020 15:23 GMT
By Robert Coalson
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On February 24, 1943, a Douglas C-47 Skytrain transport aircraft with serial number 42-32892 rolled out of a factory in Long Beach, California, and was handed over to the U.S. Air Force.

On March 12, 1943, the plane was given to the Soviet Air Force in Fairbanks, Alaska, and given the registration USSR-N238. From there, it flew 5,650 kilometers to the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk, one of some 14,000 aircraft sent by the United States to the Soviet Union during World War II under the massive Lend-Lease program.

This particular C-47 was sent to the Far North and spent the war conducting reconnaissance and weather-monitoring missions over the Kara Sea. After the war, it was transferred to civilian aviation, carrying passengers over the frozen tundra above the Arctic Circle. On April 23, 1947, it was forced to make an emergency landing with 36 people on board near the village of Volochanka on the Taimyr Peninsula.

On May 11, 1947, 27 people were rescued, having spent nearly three weeks in the icebound wreck. The captain, two crew members, and six passengers had left earlier in an ill-fated effort to get help. The body of the captain, Maksim Tyurikov, was found by local hunters about 120 kilometers from the wreck in 1953. The others were never found.

The plane spent 69 years on the tundra before a Russian Geographical Society expedition rescued it in 2016 and returned the wreckage to Krasnoyarsk.

On April 23, 1947, this C-37 was forced to make an emergency landing with 36 people on board near the village of Volochanka on the Taimyr Peninsula.
On April 23, 1947, this C-37 was forced to make an emergency landing with 36 people on board near the village of Volochanka on the Taimyr Peninsula.
"I knew that its place was in a museum," Vyacheslav Filippov, a colonel in the Russian Air Force reserve who has written extensively about the Lend-Lease program's Siberian connection, told RFE/RL at the time. "It was not just some piece of scrap metal. It is our living history. This Douglas is the only Lend-Lease aircraft that remains in Russia."

An estimated 25 million Soviet citizens perished in the titanic conflict with Nazi Germany between June 1941 and May 1945. Overcoming massive defeats and colossal losses over the first 18 months of the war, the Red Army was able to reorganize and rebuild to form a juggernaut that marched all the way to Berlin. But the Soviet Union was never alone: Months before the United States formally entered the war, it had already begun providing massive military and economic assistance to its Soviet ally through the Lend-Lease program.

From the depths of the Cold War to the present day, many Soviet and Russian politicians have ignored or downplayed the impact of American assistance to the Soviets, as well as the impact of the entire U.S.-British war against the Nazis.

A Soviet report by Politburo member Nikolai Voznesensky in 1948 asserted that the United States, described as "the head of the antidemocratic camp and the warrior of imperialist expansion around the world," contributed materiel during the war that amounted to just 4.8 percent of the Soviet Union's own wartime production.

A map of lend-lease shipments from the United States to the U.S.S.R. from 1941-45.
A map of lend-lease shipments from the United States to the U.S.S.R. from 1941-45.
The Short History Of The Great Patriotic War, also from 1948, acknowledged the Lend-Lease shipments, but concluded: "Overall this assistance was not significant enough to in any way exert a decisive influence over the course of the Great Patriotic War."

Nikolai Ryzhkov, the last head of the government of the Soviet Union, wrote in 2015 that "it can be confidently stated that [Lend-Lease assistance] did not play a decisive role in the Great Victory."

Such assessments, however, are contradicted by the opinions of Soviet war participants. Most famously, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.

"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."

Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.

"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs the Lend-Lease Act on March 11, 1941.
U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs the Lend-Lease Act on March 11, 1941.
The Lend-Lease act was enacted in March 1941 and authorized the United States to provide weapons, provisions, and raw materials to strategically important countries fighting Germany and Japan -- primarily, the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, and China. In all, the United States shipped $50 billion ($608 billion in 2020 money) worth of materiel under the program, including $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union. In addition, much of the $31 billion worth of aid sent to the United Kingdom was also passed on to the Soviet Union via convoys through the Barents Sea to Murmansk.

Most visibly, the United States provided the Soviet Union with more than 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 aircraft, 8,000 tractors and construction vehicles, and 13,000 battle tanks.

However, the real significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet war effort was that it covered the "sensitive points" of Soviet production -- gasoline, explosives, aluminum, nonferrous metals, radio communications, and so on, says historian Boris Sokolov.

"In a hypothetical battle one-on-one between the U.S.S.R and Germany, without the help of Lend-Lease and without the diversion of significant forces of the Luftwaffe and the German Navy and the diversion of more than one-quarter of its land forces in the fight against Britain and the United States, Stalin could hardly have beaten Hitler," Sokolov wrote in an essay for RFE/RL's Russian Service.

British Matilda tanks are loaded onto a ship for transportation to the U.S.S.R. as part of the Lend-Lease program.
British Matilda tanks are loaded onto a ship for transportation to the U.S.S.R. as part of the Lend-Lease program.
Under Lend-Lease, the United States provided more than one-third of all the explosives used by the Soviet Union during the war. The United States and the British Commonwealth provided 55 percent of all the aluminum the Soviet Union used during the war and more than 80 percent of the copper.

Lend-Lease also sent aviation fuel equivalent to 57 percent of what the Soviet Union itself produced. Much of the American fuel was added to lower-grade Soviet fuel to produce the high-octane fuel needed by modern military aircraft.

The Lend-Lease program also provided more than 35,000 radio sets and 32,000 motorcycles. When the war ended, almost 33 percent of all the Red Army's vehicles had been provided through Lend-Lease. More than 20,000 Katyusha mobile multiple-rocket launchers were mounted on the chassis of American Studebaker trucks.

In addition, the Lend-Lease program propped up the Soviet railway system, which played a fundamental role in moving and supplying troops. The program sent nearly 2,000 locomotives and innumerable boxcars to the Soviet Union. In addition, almost half of all the rails used by the Soviet Union during the war came through Lend-Lease.

A monument in Fairbanks, Alaska, to the American pilots who flew almost 8,000 U.S. planes to Alaska and to the Soviet pilots who flew them on to Siberia as part of Lend-Lease.
A monument in Fairbanks, Alaska, to the American pilots who flew almost 8,000 U.S. planes to Alaska and to the Soviet pilots who flew them on to Siberia as part of Lend-Lease.
"It should be remembered that during World War I, the transportation crisis in Russia in 1916-17 that did a lot to facilitate the February Revolution [which lead to the abdication of the tsar] was caused by a shortage in the production of railway rails, engines, and freight cars because industrial production had been diverted to munitions," Sokolov wrote. "During World War II, only the supplies brought in by Lend-Lease prevented the paralysis of rail transport in the Soviet Union."

The Lend-Lease program also sent tons of factory equipment and machine tools to the Soviet Union, including more than 38,000 lathes and other metal-working tools. Such machines were of higher quality than analogues produced in the Soviet Union, which made a significant contribution to boosting Soviet industrial production.

American aid also provided 4.5 million tons of food, 1.5 million blankets, and 15 million pairs of boots.

"In order to really assess the significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet victory, you only have to imagine how the Soviet Union would have had to fight if there had been no Lend-Lease aid," Sokolov wrote. "Without Lend-Lease, the Red Army would not have had about one-third of its ammunition, half of its aircraft, or half of its tanks. In addition, there would have been constant shortages of transportation and fuel. The railroads would have periodically come to a halt. And Soviet forces would have been much more poorly coordinated with a constant lack of radio equipment. And they would have been perpetually hungry without American canned meat and fats."

In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own."

With reporting by RFE/RL's Russian Service

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 23:50 utc | 54

I would say with reference to the post at 54, they needed us, and we needed them.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 23:54 utc | 55

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 20:07 utc | 32

I bin tryin', Opport Knocks - not cuttin' any throats, but more in the way of what seemed of interest -- time to call it a day now! Just a couple more folk to thank...

Posted by: juliania | Jul 4 2022 0:01 utc | 56

The interesting thing is that there could be many different globalist factions who don't necessarily see eye to eye participating in this as long as each feel things are driving in the direction they want. (And they all want the collapse of the West, it seems!)

My two cents!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 22:52 utc | 48

You have an argument, I think there are disagreements among the "elites" about what to do, and accident may well have played a part. On the other hand I do not think they were fooling with this sort of infectious agent out of a desire to cure anybody, and I doubt they had good intentions in doing so. It is, in any case clear that what they were doing was stupid. The reaction and consequences has varied widely from place to place. On the whole it seem clear that we and our snotty and entitled health care system screwed the pooch, we get the booby prize. And in the sense that they were fooling with it and it came back to bite us in the A** worse than anybody, I have no problem treating it as an own goal.

I am sure the Russians will better inform us as time goes on.

Thank you for your comments.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 4 2022 0:07 utc | 57

@ juliania | Jul 3 2022 18:04 utc | 23

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Valamo

does this help shed more light?

@ Oriental Voice | Jul 3 2022 19:57 utc | 30

thanks.. good article..

Posted by: james | Jul 3 2022 20:59 utc | 38

I thank you both! Yes, I did go to both wikis for the info, even tried some of the lower down links with obliging translator, but no more help than that. Since the history of the original monastery goes back so far I would hope the two could have connected, in spite of the current problems.

Very interesting, though. I didn't know there was a second one, only the original which is way out in the lake northward from Saint Petersburg.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 4 2022 0:12 utc | 58

My two cents!!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 22:52 utc | 48

Addendum: I have considered that COVID was and would be an own goal since I first heard of it, because as you can see there I am biased against our heath care system, so I expected us to botch it.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 4 2022 0:18 utc | 59

This web site is good in Canada:
https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/what-was-bc-ndp-minister-who-suppressed-wetsuweten-land-defenders-doing-in-iraq

Posted by: bevin | Jul 4 2022 1:12 utc | 60

Professor Wolf sets out the payback on USA dumb sanctions.

In this week's show, Prof. Wolff talks about the effect of Ukraine sanctions on inflation, Musk as economic dictator, Idaho progressives’ impressive gains, and offers a practical response to shootings. In the second half of the show, Wolff interviews media host Krystal Ball on US politics.

**Economic Update with Richard D. Wolff is@Democracy At Work production.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 4 2022 1:30 utc | 61

anglophone...
'The Chicom are re-colonising Africa'

Well tell that to the Africans..

'African youths make it clear they prefer China over US'

https://johnmenadue.com/african-youths-make-it-clear-they-prefer-china-over-us/

Posted by: denk | Jul 4 2022 1:57 utc | 62

Vaccine damage now being reported by the msm.

Posted by: ted001 | Jul 4 2022 2:52 utc | 63

Jen #36

As for the other attendees, mostly retirees, they had views about Russia that had barely changed from the 1980s and all were agreed on the idea of Russia being a military rustbucket and a failing state. When I mentioned that Russia had hypersonic technology, the statement completely passed them by.

My commiserations for having to endure Suter.

Most Australians have their entire consciousness trapped within the 70's- 80's glass cage / echo chamber. They are mesmerised to an irrelevant past while they parade with their cellphones and drive with their gps navigators. The waking sleep, tragic lapse of consciousness.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 4 2022 2:57 utc | 64

Gatesland

to the tune of the final refrain of Birdland by Manhattan Transfer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZHvsaVTrzQ

listen from 3:30.

yes indeed he did
yes indeed he did
St Billie told the truth in Gatesland

the lab-bats flew
wuhan knew
yeah
down in gatesland

granpas died
grannies cried
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

Billie blew
Fauci too
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

the who's who
of ceos knew
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

crashed the stocks
bought the lots
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

lockdowns grew
predators slew
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

trembling lands
shifting sands
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

a chance respite
then variants bite
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

death toll peaked
the vaccine eked
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

spread it thin
rake it in
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

Pfizer's grip
Astra's trip
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

the liberals rant
the lemmings chant
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

the science, fake
docs on the take
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

production soared
now jab the horde
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

dou-ble it
trip-le it
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

dou-ble it
trip-le it
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

dou-ble it
trip-le it
Yeah
Down in Gatesland

Posted by: Jog99 | Jul 4 2022 3:07 utc | 65

@ ld | Jul 3 2022 22:03 utc | 43

thanks id! thanks for sharing on your creative work here...

@ juliania...

thanks! that is all i could find.. it twas interesting!

@ Jog99 | Jul 4 2022 3:07 utc | 65

that is cute too! the song was written by weather report - joe zawinul but manhattan transfer played it.. here is a live version with no vocals which might make it work easier with your lyrics! - Weather Report - Birdland jaco on bass is no slouch either, lol...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdland_(song)

Posted by: james | Jul 4 2022 3:34 utc | 66

"Covid - It ain't over until it is over:"
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2202769119

In the article, Sachs makes no mention of US bio labs in Ukraine and their research ending in 2019 into coronavirus. He does point out it could easily be man made and believes there should be investigation of all US records on coronavirus research.
He points to the joint research by US and Wuhan lab but that research appears to be open source with published findings.
More to the point is US collection of bat coronavirus by its bio lab in Kazakhstan from caves on the Chinese border and its research in pentagon labs in Ukraine. Also the involvement of Pfizer, Moderna, and Gilead in the Ukraine bio labs.
Germany was involved in the Ukraine bio lab. Germany's BionTech partnered with Pfizer some time before covid.

Moderna, Gilead, Biontech were all startups that made the big time with covid.
China with its previews one child policy and older demographic was a perfect target for covid.
US pension funds would also have profited greatly from the US die off.
Win Win Win for the powers that be in the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 4 2022 3:38 utc | 67

Mike Pompeo: "We're in a live exercise...

Trump: "I'd wish you told us...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ca7t6cwMhY

Posted by: Gulo | Jul 4 2022 3:54 utc | 68

The evil empire never rest....

https://journal-neo.org/2022/04/20/will-the-us-and-germany-turn-mongolia-into-a-biological-warfare-testing-grounds-against-russia-and-china/

Posted by: denk | Jul 4 2022 4:12 utc | 69

Regarding belief in the Ukraine narrative, I find that: young people don’t know shit (not their fault mostly); people 35-50 are suspicious of Russia but can be reasoned with, especially if they have any interest in History, Art or Science; older people are locked in to their Cold War training and just know that Putin wants to recreate the USSR (even if they will generally admit that it is a US/RU proxy war).

Posted by: Rae | Jul 4 2022 5:44 utc | 70

Hi James

Yeah that's the killer version that led me to Manhattan transfer ...

Posted by: Jog99 | Jul 4 2022 6:54 utc | 71

What's on the menu for USA's 2024 presidential elections?

To me it looks like it is going to be Clinton vs. Pompeo.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3544103-now-more-than-ever-democrats-need-hillary-clinton/

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 8:18 utc | 72

Most Australians have their entire consciousness trapped within the 70's- 80's glass cage / echo chamber. They are mesmerised to an irrelevant past while they parade with their cellphones and drive with their gps navigators. The waking sleep, tragic lapse of consciousness.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 4 2022 2:57 utc | 64

Interesting sort of? The only tragedy of Oz was on March 31st, 1931. You deliberately missed. Or, chose to overlook the period of major reform era 1971-1975. :)

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 4 2022 8:51 utc | 73

Republican scum neo-con(nazi) congresswoman Lauren Boebert.

A person whose policies are "Do as I tell you to do peons and slaves. Not as I do".

Seeks to exploit the tragedy of a recent Sunday 'going postal event' in Copenhagen, Denmark.

Atypical of your average white racist bigot member of the Republican Party of the Union of Soviet States of Amerika.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 4 2022 9:04 utc | 74

Sorry, waynorinorway. ...I will see if I can copy info there for you. I will go and try it again.
Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 23:46 utc | 53

The 8 hour time difference makes it difficult to communicate easily, and more so considering the volume of posts since the war started, but it's me
who should apologize. When I logged on this morning I noticed you did put in the full URL. I had clicked only on the active part in red and
it didn't work. So I tried it with the full URL of the next line and it worked. I read the article and then continued on down the thread to find
you had gone to the trouble of posting the whole thing. So thanks for your diligence and I apologize for being a dim bulb.

I wanted to read about the lend lease for a couple reasons. One is that some years ago I read a well documented article about how the Brits took
advantage and kept some of the goodies for themselves. They also swapped in some of their old and inferior armaments to send on to the USSR while
enhancing their own stocks with the newer and better stuff from the US. Typically, I let the article slip away, but am always looking for more info on the subject.
There's a lot of propaganda about lend lease.

Secondly, I am researching resistance activities here in the north of Norway during WWII and the convoys being sent to Murmansk are of particular
interest. I live very near where the battleship Tirpitz, sister ship of the Bismarck, was sunk. The story of the hunt for that big monster is very interesting and
its demise was consequential in the course of the war, not only here but in the Pacific.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 9:16 utc | 75

What's on the menu for USA's 2024 presidential elections?

To me it looks like it is going to be Clinton vs. Pompeo.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 8:18 utc | 72

More useless sociopaths run toward the Whitehouse.

An old building in DC painted white to hide the burn marks from torches flung by the routed cowardly USSA soldiers fleeing from DC on August 24, 1814.

However, there is a terrible backfire curse awaiting all the foolish Republican twats on 2024 'Super Tuesday'. The dumb&dumber USSA Republican party has permanently enraged 60% of the voters.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 4 2022 9:23 utc | 76

Yikes. Anyone else follow the link to the 1945 article on American generals? I perused the rest of the site, and I gotta say that place is full of militaristic right-wing NATO lovin' garbage and arguments on "economics" that Michael Hudson regularly guts in his writing and interviews. Some headlines from 1945:
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 3 2022 21:14 utc | 39

(btw, 1945 is the name of the site not the year of the headlines.)
Yeah Tom QC, there's a bunch of hooters there. Those guys make Andy Borowitz sound like a funeral director. But there is some value in at least
reading the headlines just to get a sense of how f-ing crazy some people can be. I have an evangelical Christian family in the US and am often stunned
by their 'rational'.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 9:27 utc | 77

Yikes. Anyone else follow the link to the 1945 article on American generals? I perused the rest of the site, and I gotta say that place is full of militaristic right-wing NATO lovin' garbage and arguments on "economics" that Michael Hudson regularly guts in his writing and interviews. Some headlines from 1945:
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 3 2022 21:14 utc | 39

(btw, 1945 is the name of the site not the year of the headlines.)
Yeah Tom QC, there's a bunch of hooters there. Those guys make Andy Borowitz sound like a funeral director. But there is some value in at least
reading the headlines just to get a sense of how f-ing crazy some people can be. I have an evangelical Christian family in the US and am often stunned
by their 'rational'.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 9:27 utc | 78

Re: the Mpemba effect. Our research showed that pipe bursting is caused by the growth of an ice blockage along the length of the pipe like a piston, which causes elevated fluid pressure in the confined liquid. Anything which relieves the pressure allows the system to remain intact as ice grows. Toilets relieve pressure (no pun intended) and that’s why plumbers are usually repairing the hot water lines.

In my first test using trays in freezers, I did indeed see the Mpemba effect, until I realized, as the article notes, hot water can destroy an insulating frost surface between the cold compartment and the sample. I see no need for fancy analyses when common sense, careful research design and toilet appreciation suffice to explain how water works.

Posted by: Browning | Jul 4 2022 9:41 utc | 79

Posted by: Browning | Jul 4 2022 9:41 utc | 79

Can't resist asking if 'toilet appreciation' has anything to do with your moniker.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 10:14 utc | 80

MK Bhadrakumar has posted a series of Tweets on the topic of Germany. Here’s one about Van de Leyen, which links to an article about her personally making arrangements for Pfizer vaccines for, like, all of Europe (the power of one smartphone in one woman’s hands! Sort of Hilary-esque.)

https://twitter.com/BhadraPunchline/status/1543846320284520448

“Her ineptitude is legion - eg., scandal reg German ships in 2019 as Def Minister. Vaccine is a can of worms. So, records have ‘disappeared’! But she’ll survive in politics thanks to her family’s deep Nazi roots which has hidden support among German elites.”

Then he posts this:

https://twitter.com/BhadraPunchline/status/1543894911539621889

“Head of German Federation of Trade Unions: “Entire industries are in danger of collapsing forever because of the gas bottlenecks — especially, chemicals, glass-making, & aluminium industries, which are major suppliers to key automotive sector." “

And finally, a series of Tweets on the UN Security Council by Russian Ambassador to China, Andrey Denisov in which Denisov says:

https://twitter.com/BhadraPunchline/status/1543913899648745472

“At the same time, I would like to be frank - we aren’t ready to support the accession of actors such as Germany and Japan. We don’t see any added value from their potential accession.”

I find myself in complete disagreement with Denisov on that matter. Here’s how I see it:

1) Who the heck decided that including 2 of the European Big 3 on the Security Council would promote world peace??? Not to mention the effective consensus-building, decision-making of that council.

2) If Germany is so unimportant, then why is an analyst from India spending so much time commenting on it? Maybe it’s actions have far-reaching impact and it achieves this without being held to account in the UN Security Council. No public scrutiny. Power without accountability. That’s convenient!!

3) The conflict in Ukraine is a key component of creating a global energy crisis and food shortage. Maybe the laws of realpolitik dictate that the world would be safer with more Europe, not less, on the UN Security Council.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 4 2022 12:41 utc | 81

The Telegraph reports:

RAF's flagship drone squadron has no drones

216 Squadron RAF also has just four full-time personnel

The RAF’s flagship drone trials squadron owns no drones and has carried out no in-house trials with the uncrewed craft in the two years of its existence.

Hailed by the Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston as delivering the service’s “futuristic and ambitious” plans to harness drone swarms, The Telegraph can reveal 216 Squadron RAF also has just four full-time personnel.

The figures were disclosed in Freedom of Information requests made by Drone Wars UK, a campaign group calling for greater public accountability over military drone usage.

Director Chris Cole said: “Defence companies often over-promise and politicians can be dazzled by new military technologies so it’s crucial that there is proper transparency around these programmes.”

continues ...

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 13:03 utc | 82

SAS banned from calling people nasty names

Posted by: Ranelagh | Jul 4 2022 13:27 utc | 83

And… as I read about the “Ukraine Recovery” conference in Lugano, get Switzerland on the UN Security Council with Germany. Before, or in conjunction with, Brazil and India facing the world’s scrutiny for their decisions in the global landscape.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 4 2022 13:35 utc | 84

The Telegraph reports:

RAF's flagship drone squadron has no drones

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 13:03 utc | 82

The Empire's New Drones?

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 4 2022 14:35 utc | 85

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 9:16 utc | 75

Thanks, waynorinorway. I'm glad you got to see the full article as the photos were very helpful. I'm wanting to connect what I learned about the Varlaam monastery with what was going on through Alaska (though I can't see it from my kitchen window, see Los Alamos - does that count?) So that first photo of the big plane there, brought it home. And just as with Varlaam, more info would be helpful as I wondered how much of the article was verifiable - enormous amounts really of the whole US factory buildup. No wonder they were late entering the conflict, rather reminds of Russia having to do that before the SMO, doesn't it? They followed the same road. And meanwhile the US has apparently put its stock in Biolabs proliferating all over like sleeping time bombs. Ugh!

I'd substitute for the title 'nazi' or 'faschist' the title 'misanthrope'. The nazis in WW2 were trying to do it. We inherited the mindset, to our shame, called it science. It's not! Don't call it a pandemic; call it germ warfare and be done with it!

Posted by: juliania | Jul 4 2022 14:37 utc | 86

Interesting article about Alexandr Dugin:
https://chroniclesmagazine.org/recent-features/foreign-policy-as-spiritual-warfare-a-conversation-with-aleksandr-dugin/
via
https://katehon.com/en

"Russian philosopher, mystic, political strategist, radical bohemian, and geopolitical guru; Aleksandr Dugin is notorious, yet few in the West know much about him. Described by some as the brain of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Dugin is often depicted by Western media as a Rasputinesque figure with a dangerously eerie grip over Russia’s political and intellectual elite.

While it may be true, as countless articles assert, that Dugin has a lot to do with Russia’s current geopolitical strategy in Ukraine, less explored are the religious and spiritual beliefs embedded in his philosophy. These are informed on the one hand by perennialism and the esoteric traditionalism of the French intellectual René Guénon, which attempt to synthesize Eastern metaphysics with Western philosophy, and on the other hand, by Russian Orthodox Christianity.

Dugin’s political philosophy is aimed at the creation of a multipolar world in which the U.S. is no longer the world’s sole superpower. He also envisions a “fourth political theory” that will be neither capitalist, communist, or fascist, but an entirely new compilation adopting the good facets from all three systems. But unlike most political theorists, his beliefs are imbued with occult and mystical hermeneutics. Those who do not get a grip with his spiritual beliefs will be doomed to a shallow and soulless understanding of his influence.

I interviewed Dugin in February—several weeks before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine—and asked him to explain his Christianity and how it has influenced his philosophy. It’s a topic that interests him greatly, and his response reflected the intensity of his interest."

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There is another good-looking one I'll now sink teeth into about his theory of multipolarism.

https://katehon.com/en/article/civilization-state

Alexander Dugin

"The SMO* is unanimously agreed by competent experts in International Relations to be the final and decisive chord in the transition from a unipolar to a multipolar world.

*SMO - special military operation

Multipolarity sometimes seems intuitively clear, but as soon as we try to give precise definitions or a correct theoretical description, everything becomes less obvious. I believe that my work "A Theory of a Multi-polar World" is more relevant today than ever before. But since people have forgotten how to read - especially lengthy theoretical texts, I will try to share the main points.

The main actor of a multipolar world order is neither a nation-state (as in the realist theory of International Relations), nor a unified World Government (as in the liberalist theory of International Relations). It is the Civilization-State. Other names for it are "Great Space", "Empire", "Ecumenism". "

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 4 2022 15:03 utc | 87

Happy Birthday America.

If your gov't spent more time doing this it would be progress.

Anvil rockets

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 15:13 utc | 88

#87 continued (re multipolarity):

The conclusion from the above article:

"The final one. To win this war and defend itself, Russia itself must first clearly comprehend multipolarity. We are already fighting for it, but still do not fully understand what it is. It is necessary to urgently dissolve the liberal tanks created during the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period and establish new multipolar tanks. It is also necessary to restructure the educational paradigm itself - first of all at MGIMO, MGU, PFUR, the Maurice Thorez Institute, the Diplomatic Academy, and other specialized universities. Finally, we need to really turn to a developed and fully-fledged Eurasian school of thought, which has proven to be highly relevant, but against which the overt and covert Atlantists and foreign agents who penetrate deeply into our society continue to fight."

On the one hand I feel a little gratified to learn that one of the experts on the subject in Russia as of February this year wasn't sure exactly what is meant. Which makes Putin's upcoming speech about it all the more important. High time that something more than vague hopium be presented.

On the other hand this is a little disturbing. Clearly they haven't thought this through yet. Which means they are already willing to go to war in defense of an idea. Ideas are not reality though they can point the way helpfully. Ideas have to be tested over time in the crucible of reality.

Oh well. We have our fledgling multipolar world right now esp. since the SMO started. New networks of power are being put in place and now used and this will only grow over time. So we will learn by doing I guess. Still, it's much more of a coin toss than I had imagined....

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 4 2022 15:26 utc | 89

@ Jog99 | Jul 4 2022 6:54 utc | 71

thanks jog... i didn't know that! cheers...

happy 4th of july to the americans here at moa... juliania - i am glad you've gotten so much rain... it is raining here again too - 2 days in a row which is sort of unusual for this time of the year.. it is not exactly a light rain either.. good for the living things..

Posted by: james | Jul 4 2022 15:46 utc | 90

History rhymes.

For sale: Frankfurt’s iconic euro sculpture ==> https://www.politico.eu/article/for-sale-frankfurts-iconic-euro-sculpture/

Enron 'E' logos sold to New York buyer ==> https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2008/05/12/daily61.html

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 15:59 utc | 91

More Dugin. About the split elites in the US.
https://katehon.com/en/article/united-states-court-against-ideology-progress

Very interesting:

"The fact is that there is not just one American state, but two countries and two nations with this name and this is becoming more and more evident. It is not even a question of Republicans and Democrats, whose conflict is becoming increasingly bitter. It is the fact that there is a deeper division in American society.

Half of the US population is an advocate of pragmatism. This means that for them there is only one yardstick: it works or it doesn't work, it works/it doesn't work. That is all. And no dogma either about the subject or the object. Everyone can see himself as whatever he wants, including Elvis Presley or Father Christmas, and if it works, no one dares to object. It is the same with the outside world: there are no inviolable laws, do what you want with the outside world, but if it responds harshly, that is your problem. There are no entities, only interactions. This is the basis of Native American identity, it is the way Americans themselves have traditionally understood liberalism: as freedom to think what you want, to believe what you want, and to behave as you want. Of course, if it comes to conflict, the freedom of one is limited by the freedom of the other, but without trying you cannot know where the fine line is. Try it, maybe it will work.

That is how American society has been up to a certain point. Here, banning abortion, allowing abortion, sex change, punishing sex change, gay parades or neo-Nazi parades were all possible, nothing was turned away at the door, the decision could be anything, and the courts, relying on a multitude of unpredictable criteria, precedents and considerations, were the last resort to decide, in problematic cases, what worked/doesn't work. This is the mysterious side of the Americans, completely misunderstood by Europeans, and also the key to their success: they have no boundaries, which means they go where they want until someone stops them, and that is exactly what works.

But in the American elite, which is made up of people from a wide variety of backgrounds, at some point a critically large number of non-Americans have accumulated. They are predominantly Europeans, often from Russia. Many are ethnically Jewish but imbued with European or Russian-Soviet principles and cultural codes. They brought a different culture and philosophy to the United States. They did not understand or accept American pragmatism at all, seeing it only as a backdrop for their own advancement. That is, they took advantage of American opportunities, but did not intend to adopt a libertarian logic unrelated to any hint of totalitarianism. In reality, it was these alien elites who hijacked the old American democracy. It was they who took the helm of globalist structures and gradually seized power in the United States.

These elites, often left-liberal, sometimes openly Trotskyist, have brought with them a position that is deeply alien to the American spirit: the belief in linear progress. Progress and pragmatism are incompatible. If progress works, fine. If not, it must be abandoned. Here is the law of pragmatism: it works/doesn't work. If you want to move forward, move forward, if you want the opposite, no problem, that's freedom the American way.

However, the emigrants from the Old World brought with them very different attitudes. For them, progress was a dogma. All history was seen as continuous improvement, as a continuous process of emancipation, improvement, development and accumulation of knowledge. Progress was a philosophy and a religion. In the name of progress, which included a continuous increase in individual freedoms, technical development and the abolition of traditions and taboos, everything was possible and necessary, and it no longer mattered whether it worked or not. What mattered was progress."

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This sort of nuance is important, I suggest, because often people talk about the 'US' or 'capitalism' or 'fascism' or 'neocons' or 'the left' and so forth and relate to them as precise terms whereas in fact they are not - not even close.

Whatever is driving the current push by the 'US' who is driving most of Europe isn't really the country. It certainly doesn't come from the people. But it also isn't demanded by Congress. Presumably the Executive is running this but we all know there are many networks senior to and far more powerful than any WH occupants or their appointees. Because we don't really know who is pulling the strings we don't really know what they are doing nor ultimately what they want.

Strangely, this article by a Russian 'Rasputin figure' gets closer than most.

As does this rebuttal: https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2022/06/29/aleksandr-dugin-on-the-alien-substantially-jewish-elite-in-the-u-s-and-its-war-against-traditional-american-individualism/

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 4 2022 16:13 utc | 92

"Ukraine represents the liberal west, in Dugin’s view. This is perfectly represented in Dugin’s endorsement of an epistle, written by the devout Christian oligarch and media executive Konstantin Malofeev, which describes the Russian entry into the Donbass as “a new stage in the life of a Millennial Russia.” Malofeev goes on to describe Kiev as having been “taken captive by the forces of hell.” Based on this assessment, he calls the conflict a means of restoring historical justice in a “holy land for all Russian people,” which is the catalyst for “a new great Russia.” Following the publication of this letter, the U.S. Justice Department filed charges against Malofeev for trying, in violation of sanctions, to create new media outlets in several European countries. The FBI also issued a statement saying that Malofeev “continues to run a pro-Putin propaganda network and recently described Russia’s 2022 military invasion of Ukraine as a ‘holy war.’”

Malofeev’s letter demonstrates how Russians like Dugin view the conflict in Ukraine: as a holy war that will purge modernity from the Eurasian sphere and end what Guénon described as the Kali Yuga—the Hindu concept for a decadent age of strife and sin. It is this deep religious and spiritual motivation behind Russia’s campaign in Ukraine that has been dangerously overlooked by Western analysts and has forced them to misunderstand Russian motives.

To the extent that Dugin does influence Putin and other Russian leaders, that influence is deeply religious and frames events as a battle between the ideologies of modernity and traditionalism. The conclusion of this conflict will without a doubt have unimaginable consequences upon religion, culture, and geopolitics for years to come. Dugin’s philosophy is making its mark on the world, right before our eyes."

Conclusion of:
https://chroniclesmagazine.org/recent-features/foreign-policy-as-spiritual-warfare-a-conversation-with-aleksandr-dugin/

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 4 2022 17:08 utc | 93

@Scorpion | Jul 4 2022 17:08 utc | 93

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Remember Mark and Patricia McCloskey?

There is an American backstory that haunts Dugin's dreams. The Veiled Prophet Parade and Ball.

An entertaining listen about this mysticism ==> https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/shoot-me-in-st-louis

Posted by: too scents | Jul 4 2022 17:26 utc | 94

Another big story under the radar - The Kurds have been sold out / abandoned by the Americans yet again. This must be the fourth time now?

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/mass-ethnic-cleansing-syrian-kurds-collateral-ukraine-war-1717889

Posted by: jayc | Jul 4 2022 17:44 utc | 95

If your gov't spent more time doing this it would be progress.

Anvil rockets

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jul 4 2022 15:13 utc | 88

***

A new THAAD, Totally Hilarious Anvil Air Defense

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jul 4 2022 17:45 utc | 96

@93 Scorpion

Hear, hear!

Those are the stakes.

That is the true propaganda that should be used. But Putin thinks the Europeans are not ready for the truth. This is why the actions of Putin are not Soviet Revanchism: he merely wants to sell gas to them, not liberate them from their own self-induced hell.

So who can liberate the west from the Hellspawn-parasite? Only the patriots.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 4 2022 18:52 utc | 97

More than likely that the figures from both sides are quite wrong and for different reasons...

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 22:44 utc | 46

When checking against local sources the COVID data tracks quite well. This also includes Russia as well.

On a side note Cuba. Thanks to the foresight of the Castro brothers. Has an above-average performance.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 4 2022 19:27 utc | 98

Halfway through the year, America has already seen at least 309 mass shootings.

The Union of the Soviet Union of Amerika. Continues to suffer the pandemic of mass shootings.

On July 4th, four incidents resulted in six dead and 39 wounded. \\

Tragic. In a country with in excess of 310,000,000 firearms.

Literally enough guns to arm every man, woman, and child. With a lethal weapon. And allow armed policemen with a drop gun.

When wrongful death shootings go ballistic. As in the case of one unfortunate delivery driver. The coroner counted 60 out of ninety rounds fired by six police officers. Where did yhe remaining rounds go??????????

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 4 2022 20:18 utc | 99

james -- recently on one of the Ukraine threads you told of the importance of inserting the time stamp line on the top of a new post. I don't know how to do that. I'm just not very computer literate. Would you please explain how to do it? Also, I'm ashamed to admit, I don't know what the "Allowed HTML Tags:" mean or how to use them. Thanks for all you do here to make MOA the great web site it is.

Posted by: Chas | Jul 4 2022 20:18 utc | 100