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July 7, 2022
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 2022-105

News & views NOT related to the war in Ukraine …

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It’s beginning to look like the ‘magical money tree’ theory is starting to hit the iceberg called reality.
“A shot rang at Sarajevo killing the Archduke Francis Ferdinand … in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914 and plunged Europe into one of the most devastating wars in its history.”
It will all depend on what the neocon-crazies do with it.

Posted by: imo | Jul 8 2022 11:48 utc | 101

Video of Abe’s assassination: video. Worst security detail ever.

Posted by: S | Jul 8 2022 12:26 utc | 102

Scorpion, in answer to your questions
Neoliberals believe in the self regulating market and see no regular role for intervention in the workings of the economy, which, of course, means that society is also left to evolve as it wishes.
Such, at least is the basic theory of the likes of Hayek and von Mises.
On the other hand there are the views of their contemporary the Hungarian Christian Socialist Karl Polanyi author of The Great Transformation in which he argued, in a manner similar to that being followed by Hudson nowadays, that left to itself the market will produce social and economic disasters and end up with the destruction of society.
He argued that the events taking place in the thirties and forties were vindications of his view: he saw the New Deal and the Beveridge Report and growth of socialism as reactions against the anarchy of the liberal market and the society that rode on its back as it plunged into Depression and war.
A very interesyting man Polanyi, he spent most of the thirties in England teaching for the WEA after fleeing from Vienna and fascism where he had been working for a financial newspaper. He moved to the States but couldn’t live there because his wife was a communist. He taught at Columbia and lived in Toronto. His daughter Kari Leavitt Polanyi was a professor at Concordia University in Montreal and an influential Canadian nationalist.
Here are a few quotations from The Great Transformation:
“Our thesis is that the idea of the self-regulating market implied a stark utopia. Such an institution could not exist for any length of time without annihilating the human and natural substance of society; it would have physically destroyed man and transformed his his surroundings into a wilderness.”
“…But the peculiarity of the civilisation the collapse of which we have witnessed was precisely that it rested on economic foundations. Other societies and other civilisations, too, were limited by the material conditions of their existence-this is a common trait of all human life, indeed of all life, whether religious or nonreligious, materialist or spiritualist. All types of societies are limited by economic factors. Nineteenth century civilisation alone was economic in a different and distinctive sense, for it chose to base itself on a motive only rarely acknowledged as valid in the history of human societies, and certainly never before raised to the level of a justification of action and behaviour in everyday life, namely, gain. The self regulating market system was uniquely derived from this principle….”
“The Industrial Revolution was merely the beginning of a revolution as extreme and radical as ever inflamed the minds of sectarians, but the new creed was utterly materialistic and believed that all human problems could be resolved given an unlimited amount of material commodities.”
“No society could, naturally, live for any length of time unless it possessed an economy of some sort; but previously to our time no economy has ever existed that, even in principle, was controlled by markets. In spite of the chorus of academic incantations so persistent in the nineteenth century, gain and profit made on exchange never before played an important part in human economy. Though the institution of the market was fairly common since the later Stone Age, its role was no more than incidental to economic life.
“We have good reason to insist on this point with all the emphasis at our command. No less a thinker than Adam Smith suggested that the division of labour in society was dependent upon the existence of markets, or, as he put it, upon man’s “propensity to barter, truck or exchange one thing for another.” This phrase was later to yield the concept of Economic Man. In retrospect it can be said that no misreading of the past ever proved more prophetic of the future.”
Karl Polanyi The Great Transformation 1944

Posted by: bevin | Jul 8 2022 12:32 utc | 103

Bojo forced to resign, Abe shot, mass internet outage in Canada, what a week

Posted by: kalton | Jul 8 2022 12:52 utc | 104

Former Japanese Prime Minister Abe Shinto assassinated.
Skipping round the web looking for breadcrumbs as to cui bono.
Happened apron this. Which did tingle my inner Sherlock.
US Ambassador to Japan, Rahm Emanuel.
We are all saddened and shocked by the shooting of former Prime Minister Abe Shinzo. Abe-san has been an outstanding leader of Japan and unwavering ally of the United States. The U.S. Government and American people are praying for the well-being of Abe-san, his family, and people of Japan.
https://jp.usembassy.gov/statement-by-ambassador-rahm-emanuel/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 8 2022 12:55 utc | 105

@ Grieved @54
Afraid that that doesn’t work for me.

Posted by: Sean | Jul 8 2022 13:06 utc | 106

Recommend that barflies check out b’s Twitter account for his recommendation to a piece by Peter Lee aka China hand (like that totally benign part of the natural order, the Invisible Hand of Adam Smith? That one’s me, don’t pin that on b.)
Before b opened this thread, I posted a link to BNN Bloomberg in the last miscellaneous thread that’s just too priceless not to re-post. In a move which I consider more humiliating than Johnson being forced to resign, Germany’s minister of the economy, Robert Habeck, called Bloomberg to make an emotional plea for Canada to show its support for thwarting the evil Putin… by sending back that Siemens turbine that’s stuck in Montréal due to sanctions.
http://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/germany-s-habeck-urges-canada-to-help-thwart-putin-on-gas-1.1788843
Chancellor Scholz has been in conversations with Trudeau recently about this very issue. Habeck’s either asking to be fired, or reacting to the threat of it. Johnson would have fired Habeck, Michael Gove style, I think. But maybe that’s what you can do when you have a monarch at your back.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 8 2022 13:13 utc | 107

So there are two cents. Offered in amity.
Posted by: Grieved | Jul 8 2022 5:49 utc | 86
Good one! Well worth the price!
Looked at from a slightly different angle: if we can identify what, if anything, continues from one moment to the next be that physical, mental, situational or whatever, then we might glean some understanding of the rebirthing process which is profoundly both impersonal and personal at the same time.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 13:41 utc | 108

Posted by: bevin | Jul 8 2022 12:32 utc | 103
“Neoliberals believe in the self regulating market and see no regular role for intervention in the workings of the economy, which, of course, means that society is also left to evolve as it wishes.”
Thank you for your reply. Interesting about Polanyi who rightly believed ‘that left to itself the market will produce social and economic disasters and end up with the destruction of society.’
If you apply the traditional Asian/Chinese model of Heaven Earth and Man we would say that if a society loses touch with Heaven then Man will be too earthbound (materialist) and lose the Way. What is Heaven? Let us call it absolute truth present as fundamental realities, traditional analogy being the Sky. It’s always there, without it our world wouldn’t be as such, but it is ever-changing in some aspects albeit the space of sky which accommodates such changes never changes. That space if the Heaven of sky, if you will, and the changing weather patterns and colors which take place in the sky are the Earth of sky. They are different but also the same. Man principle is ‘joining Heaven and Earth’ which creates some sort of dynamism and, ideally, harmony. If Man is out of synch with the nature of Heaven and Earth then he creates disharmony.
So the problem with the materialist-based systems which is what we have now – and I would argue that communism generally doesn’t get out of materialism even though it does try to be fair and treat people equally – is that they don’t recognize Heaven as an over-arching presence and priority. I think in political language we might call this tradition, justice, order, wisdom – timeless values and virtues like that which nearly all human beings in all times have recognized as basically good social structure.
Language is very strange. Because ‘neoliberal’ essentially creates an unholy mess. Progressives are hell-bent on dystopia. If you keep breaking down what you have received from the past regarding pretty much everything as tainted then you will keep breaking down whatever new changes you make ensuring that no order, continuity, tradition, justice or wisdom can gain a toehold for you have instituted continual anarchy as a norm. Very strange.
Anyway, thank you. I think maybe your throwaway remark that started this little interchange about ‘neoliberalism fulfilling its purpose’ may be better put as ‘neoliberalism fulfilling its inevitable destiny’ but no matter. To my mind it is the result of, as Polanyi rightly pointing out, making Gain the Heaven principle even though it shouldn’t be. It’s upside-down and venal thinking. Lowbrow. It creates bad societies.
And so here we are, a couple of centuries later, and it’s already time to break it all down again. Riots are already breaking out in Europe. Japanese ex PM’s getting shot. Winter is indeed coming…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 14:01 utc | 109

That space if the Heaven of sky, if you will, and the changing weather patterns and colors which take place in the sky are the Earth of sky.
I swear sometimes what comes out is NOT what I typed…should be:
That space is the Heaven of sky, if you will, and the changing weather patterns and colors which take place in the sky are the Earth of sky.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 14:04 utc | 110

Posted by: james | Jul 8 2022 4:01 utc | 79
Oops, james, sorry. The threads were coming pretty close together last few days. Yes, I found that electron description fascinating – not hard to understand, and I think it has openings into future quantum computer models, though not being a physicist I can’t go further than that.
It reminded me of Galisteo being able to see the actual planetary motions with a better telescope – this was visual proof of electrons behaving like a stream of water due to superior magnification. First time, apparently. Very neat explanation.
And in a previous NC links post, silos in Finland are storing heat from solar arrays using just sand – they heat swimming pools with it. Maybe don’t get extreme heat but using something plentiful like that – great! Plenty of sand here in New Mexico so beaches need not be raided, just deserts.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2022 14:08 utc | 111

“That space is the Heaven of sky, if you will, and the changing weather patterns and colors which take place in the sky are the Earth of sky.”
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 14:04 utc | 110
I will blow your mind a little more, if I may, Scorpion, by telling of the maori in New Zealand considering that strip of land uncovered by the sea around the islands sacred – they are, I believe, it’s specific guardians. Thus, no private beaches – or at least, that used to be the case. For that strip of land, called by them ‘paramoana’, does very often seem to imitate the sky in the patterns of ripples stretching across moist sand.
Further, in my own classic-inspired musings, the word ‘apocalypse’ breaks down into ‘apo’=’from’ and ‘calypso’= the island from which Odysseus escapes at the start of Homer’s second epic poem. So, that too can be a description of that mysterious, sacred stretch of land uncovered between ocean at low tide and shore. An apocalypse being the uncovering of what lies beneath, a revelation.
That’s my own interpretation – the Greek more usually is translated without that Odyssey bit thrown in. I like mine because Odysseus is described first up as a ‘man of many ways’ and he, like the maori, has to get home across a mighty ocean, trying (but not succeeding) to bring his surviving war companions with him.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2022 14:41 utc | 113

re ABE
https://ria.ru/20220708/yaponiya-1801280800.html

Posted by: snake | Jul 8 2022 14:47 utc | 114

This is a notification for all the friends in this pond.
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For the future, yes, please use http and not https
Be assured the techs are working on it, but it is a sticky thing, and if we are up for a bit, it does not mean the attack does not continue with a different vector. Kindly be patient.

Posted by: amarynth (TheSaker) | Jul 8 2022 14:53 utc | 115

Methane much more sensitive to global heating than previously thought – study

“If the oxidative capacity of the air is also in trouble, as these results suggest, then we have a double-edged sword,” said Euan Nisbet, an earth scientist at Royal Holloway, University of London, who led the UK’s Global Methane Budget project and was not involved in the study. “That’s a real worry because methane acceleration is perhaps the largest factor challenging our Paris agreement goals.” [more]

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 8 2022 14:56 utc | 116

Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2022 14:41 utc | 113
A sweet take on apocalypse now!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 15:46 utc | 117

Grieved | Jul 8 2022 5:49 utc | 86
thanks grieved… you said that all really well and it helped bring more clarity to suzans distinctions and etc… thanks!
@ c1ue | Jul 8 2022 10:16 utc | 94
thanks c1ue… i agree with you and think the changes happening at present have the potential to result in great changes… what these changes are is less clear, but at present it looks mostly on the downside for ordinary people like you and i… from covid to the ukraine dynamic and what next? things seem to be sped up here as we head into the unknown..
@ Joe | Jul 8 2022 10:54 utc | 97
that’s funny… especially if it was true which its not!
@ juliania | Jul 8 2022 14:08 utc | 111
no problem! galileo got in a lot of trouble as memory serves – excommunicated! technology won in the end as we can see now!
@ juliania | Jul 8 2022 14:41 utc | 113
i like your interpretation of apocalypse much better!

Posted by: james | Jul 8 2022 15:54 utc | 118

@Clueless Joe #95
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction just requires a short, sweet sound bite.
But the actual plot of “V for Vendetta”: the movie revolved around a cadre of Cabinet level ministers who were responsible, as mid-level bureaucrats, for setting up the original crime, which in turn led to the crisis, which in turn put them in power under a figurehead.
Extend a non-sensationalized version of the above, down 5-10 levels, and you have a more accurate understanding of the real situation.
The US government is supported by the majority of the 10% because it is directly benefiting them. For that to change, either a large number of the 10% have to change their minds (and risk their rice bowls) or the 90% are going to have to change the way the US government actually operates.
That is never a quick or clean process because there are so many offsetting factors at play.
Some simple examples:
Bernie Sanders talks a big talk, but his behavior has clearly shown that he has no interest in undermining the Democrat party even though it is 100% clear that the Democrat party today is completely uninterested in his agenda. So there is no chance whatsoever of Bernie ever getting into power; if, by accident he did, he wouldn’t do anything with it – etc etc.
Trump in turn also talked a big talk. Trump was (and still is) a Washington Deep State/Federal Bureaucracy outsider. Even when elected and even when willing to go against the American oligarchy’s interests – he was fought tooth and nail every step of the way. The military would flat out lie or ignore his orders. The Republicans in Congress largely played to their own traditional agenda rather than supporting Trump’s. The federal bureaucrats in the various agencies dragged their feet whenever told to do anything they didn’t want to do.
Trump by any measure failed as President – no more and no less than Bernie Sanders would fail as a President.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 8 2022 16:17 utc | 119

@james #118
I fully agree things will get worse for most people. It won’t for me: I’m in a business that thrives when times get bad, but I am not eager to live in a decaying society either.
However, I have for 14 years been waiting a la Mao: “The worse, the better”.
In the runup to 2007, I naively believed that the enormous real estate bubble was going to pop (correct) but that the policies that led to this bubble would be replaced by sane ones (very incorrect).
It was precisely at that time that I concluded that the “people in charge” in the US were irretrievably corrupt and also incompetent.
In the ensuing 14 years, I have yet to see any evidence that the above thesis is wrong, and so instead I have changed to a policy of monitoring the speed of decay to get an understanding of when it was likely to hurt Americans enough that change might be possible.
We’re getting closer.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 8 2022 16:24 utc | 120

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 8 2022 16:24 utc | 120
“I have changed to a policy of monitoring the speed of decay to get an understanding of when it was likely to hurt Americans enough that change might be possible. We’re getting closer.”
I was reflecting this morning that somehow we have to change the narrative so that it’s not about how dominant these occluded wicked 1% are but rather how upright, proud and determined ‘we the people’ can be.
The riots in Europe might indicate that maybe in the near future perhaps they might be getting closer…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 16:28 utc | 121

Is anybody else has a problem connecting to thesaker.is?

Posted by: Max | Jul 8 2022 16:30 utc | 122

Boris was there for purpose of entertainment, distraction and the made stupid people feel like they have a voice in government. He served fairly well. Now like some kind of religious token they heap all fault and anger and feel of frustration and disenfranchisement on him and curse him as they set fire to him to take away the evil government and leave the uk like new looking forward to brighter future while learning to live with less. Liz Truss is there to make the other guy look good. And as stated on strategic-culture this should mark the end of experiment with populism.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, weve decided that what we need is to let everyone carry handguns. That should keep them occupied for a while.

Posted by: jared | Jul 8 2022 16:50 utc | 123

I continue my G-20 coverage with Lavrov’s presser, whose content ought to be compared with my prognostications earlier in this thread @36 &38.
Of course, Bojo’s exit happened during the G-20 and Lavrov was asked to comment:

Question: How would you comment on the information that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is resigning? He has repeatedly stated that he will leave the post only if he understands that the country’s government is not coping with its work. Johnson also noted that one of the reasons for his possible departure may be the reluctance of the Cabinet of Ministers to “help the Ukrainian people.”
Sergey Lavrov: I do not even want to comment, because Boris Johnson has proved with all his activities as Prime Minister and Foreign Minister that he is a person who pursues primarily external effects, holds on to power in order to raise his political career in every possible way. In many ways, over the past couple of years, the UK has been deploying an aggressive policy towards the Russian Federation, using the events in Ukraine as a pretext, covering up the openly misanthropic, largely neo-Nazi regime that has developed in Kiev under Western curators. The activity of Great Britain increased dramatically after Boris Johnson withdrew the country from the EU and it was “on the outskirts” of European politics. In recent months, London has been actively trying to put together a new alliance of Great Britain-Poland-Baltic States-Ukraine in order to have an English foothold on the continent and promote its policy, which, for sure, will not always take into account the interests of the European Union as a whole.
Gone and gone. Everyone said that it was necessary to isolate Russia, but in the meantime, Boris Johnson’s own party isolated him. [My Emphasis]

It was noted yesterday that traditional UK policy toward Europe is similar to what Bojo tried to impose–ensuring the continent’s nations remain weak and disunited so UK can manipulate affairs in its own interest. And as we’ve seen, that policy’s been adopted by the Outlaw US Empire. What follows is Lavrov’s statement to the media:

The meeting of the G20 Foreign Ministers, on the proposal of the Indonesian presidency, is devoted to two major topics. The first is the crisis of multilateralism and the need to take all measures to overcome it and return to the principles laid down in the UN Charter, first of all, the sovereign equality of states and the solution of all problems on the basis of agreements. During the second meeting, the situation in the field of food and energy security was discussed. Our position on these two issues is well known. We introduced it.
There is nothing to say about multilateralism. There is a UN Charter, and Western concepts called the “rules-based world order” aim to undermine it. No one saw these rules, no one showed them. The meeting drew attention to this and called for a return to the origins of international law. Examples were given of the detrimental impact of Western rules (which actually lead to adventures) for the world order, which should be based on the UN Charter.
Regarding food and energy security, president of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin has shown in detail and in accordance with the repeated public explanations of President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin the origins of the crises in these areas, which began not today, not in February, or even last year. They were the result of an adventurous, ill-conceived and erroneous policy of the West, including the forced introduction of the “green” transformation, artificial intervention in the mechanisms of regulating demand and consumption, and the intrusion into the game of the very market forces that the Westerners had previously praised for many years. We reaffirmed Russia’s readiness to fulfill all obligations to supply cheap, affordable energy resources – hydrocarbons, oil and gas – although this is exactly what the United States is so actively opposing, forcing Europe and the rest of the world to abandon these low-cost energy sources and switch to resources of much higher cost.
In the food sector, there are no obstacles from the Russian side to this problem being solved using our significant grain reserves. Nevertheless, the West, by its unilateral restrictions, has created serious difficulties for insuring our ships, calling at ports, and making financial payments for food supplies. We also drew attention to the situation that is now developing in the Black Sea. If the West is so eager to export Ukrainian grain, then all that is needed is to force Kiev to demine the Black Sea ports and allow ships to pass through Ukraine’s territorial waters. On the high seas, Russia, with the help of Turkey, is ready to ensure the safety of such convoys to the Bosphorus Strait and further into the Mediterranean Sea to the buyers’ markets. The trouble is that our Western colleagues have a clear intention to create an international monitoring mechanism for this process with the involvement of NATO naval forces. In this context, London recently spoke out. We understand this idea very well.
In general, the West introduces the crisis related to Ukrainian grain into the discussions in the international arena as the first news: this grain is allegedly necessary to solve the food problem. Statistics are unequivocal – the volume of grain “locked” in Ukrainian ports is less than 1% of global production, so it does not have a real impact on food security. All that is required is for the West to stop artificially blocking the fulfillment of our supplies to the countries that contracted Russian grain.
During the discussion, our Western colleagues did not follow the mandate of the G20: regulating global economic issues, reaching agreements on making decisions related to sustainable development within the framework of the UN. As soon as they took the floor, they almost immediately strayed into rabid criticism of the Russian Federation in connection with the situation in Ukraine: “aggressors, invaders, occupiers.” We heard a lot today. We were urged to “stop” the special military operation and reach a peaceful settlement.
I would like to remind my Western colleagues of what they have said in previous months and ask them to determine their wishes. If we are talking about the launch of peace talks, then Ukraine stopped this dialogue. The well-known economist and political scientist D. Sachs, who spoke at the beginning of the meeting via video link, clearly expressed regret that Ukraine, which proposed negotiations at the beginning, subsequently stumbled away from them. This is an objective statement. The West, if it is seeking negotiations, should bear this in mind. If he wants not negotiations, but the victory of Ukraine over Russia “on the battlefield” (there are both statements: who is for negotiations, and who is for a military victory), then there is nothing to talk about with the West. With such approaches, he does not allow Ukraine to move to a peace process, forcing Kiev to accept Western weapons, use them to bomb cities, destroy civilians. We observe the latter on a daily basis and cannot tolerate it. Such a duality of the West shows that the main thing is ideology, and not concern for Ukraine and its citizens, for European security as a whole.
Despite everything I have said, the behaviour of our Western colleagues, who, by the way, were practically not supported in such a heat by the G20 members from developing countries, this was a useful discussion. It allowed representatives of the West to ask extremely unpleasant questions, the answers to which they do not have. There is only rabid Russophobia, which replaces the need to agree on key issues of the world economy and finance, for the solution of which, in fact, the G20 was created. [My Emphasis]

And again during the Q&A, Lavrov reiterated the following point:
“Obviously, they [The West] did not use the G20 meeting for the purposes for which this format was created.”
From the Q&A, aside from what I’ve already excerpted, only two IMO are noteworthy:

Question (translated from English): How do you see the position of the Indonesian government in today’s polarized world?
Sergey Lavrov: I believe that the President and the Government of Indonesia take the position of a responsible state that understands the importance of building a dialogue guided by international law. I want to emphasize once again that this right is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of countries. I believe that this is the right position for Indonesia as a Member State of the United Nations, Chairman of the Group of Twenty and future Chairman of ASEAN….
Question (translated from English): The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Australia called “the Russian war in Ukraine illegal, immoral and unprovoked.” What can you say about that?
Sergey Lavrov: If Australia is very concerned about what is happening thousands of kilometers away, I would advise Canberra to look at the volumes of documents outlining the reasons for the current situation in Ukraine before giving any comments. I am sure that Australia, as a responsible country, usually studies the facts before declaring anything. I have no doubt that the Australian Embassy in Moscow is convincingly trying to convey to its capital information about what diplomats have learned about the origins of this long-standing conflict. This is not my problem if such messages are ignored by Canberra. It’s their choice. [My Emphasis]

I note that Russian media is reporting what I just did above, although we might learn more in the next few days once Lavrov returns and is interviewed. IMO, the Global South learned a lot from the behavior of the West’s agents, that their highest priority is pursuing the Outlaw US Empire’s agenda, not trying to solve global problems that are mostly caused by the attempt to impose the Empire’s agenda. What began in Alaska in 2021–trying to lecture the world from a falsely presumed position of strength–continues to be attempted with negative results on every occasion. I don’t expect that to change until NATO’s complete defeat in Ukraine occurs.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 16:56 utc | 124

karlof1@124
thanks.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 8 2022 17:00 utc | 125

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-popular-uprising-against-the-elites-has-gone-global-opinion/ar-AAZkhzr
MSM noticing unrest… perhaps this will be the emerging story of the summer?

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 17:00 utc | 126

It seems I am not alone in struggling to connect with TheSaker.is today. 🙁
Both Andrei and Amarynth have clarified on this thread (#112 & #115) that the site is suffering a major DDoS attack.
https://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-saker-blog-is-under-attack.html

Posted by: Mark H | Jul 8 2022 17:19 utc | 127

Since The Saker is blocked I send you an excerpt of Germany’s leading newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ):
The scandal surrounding Frank-Walter Steinmeier’s cancelled trip to Kiev apparently strained the relationship between the German President and the Ukrainian head of government, Volodymyr Selenskyj, more than previously known. According to information from Der Spiegel, in the first telephone conversation between the two presidents after the affront, Steinmeier confronted Selenskyj personally with the case and demanded clarification from him about the background.
Before he wanted to talk about the future relationship between the two and new travel plans, they first had to talk about the past again, Steinmeier is reported as saying by insiders. The invitation was a historic affront, unprecedented towards a head of state of an ally. Such a breach of diplomatic custom was unacceptable, the German president is said to have told his counterpart in the phone call on 5 May. He would like an explanation.
When Selenskyj claimed in the conversation that he had not known about the incident, Steinmeier is said to have become gruff. He had all the correspondence in front of him, the President said, apparently referring to a diplomatic note from the Ukrainian government dated 12 April, the day of the cancelled trip. “Please spare yourself and me from reading all this out now,” Steinmeier is quoted as saying. After further appeasement by Selensky, Steinmeier even followed up a third time, it is said, and then received an evasive but probably duly dejected response from the Ukrainian. Only then did the Federal President give in.
Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
With love from Germany (Nato: To keep the Americans in, the Germans down – 30.000 GI’s are still here – and the Russians out)
Otto Kern
DE-37412 Herzberg – die Esperantostadt

Posted by: Otto Kern | Jul 8 2022 17:36 utc | 128

Sorry,
I’ve forgotten to mention the source.
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ukraine-liveticker-putin-wirft-westen-boykott-versuch-auf-dem-g20-gipfel-vor-18134628.html
Otto

Posted by: Otto Kern | Jul 8 2022 17:39 utc | 129

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 17:00 utc | 126
It looks like Holland farmers use tractors from New Holland , Pennsylvania

Posted by: Platero | Jul 8 2022 18:03 utc | 130

With all this talk of multipolarity, is there a way out from the cold for North Korea? I am not intimately familiar with it’s past sins, but there has to be some sort of redemption possible.
I am assuming that the usual suspect is the premier obstacle to this goal. Russia has been sanctioned to the moon and halfway back so why not? Maybe I am wildly off-base here but it bothers me that an entire nation can be erased from the world stage with nary a care for whatever consequences ensue.

Posted by: eyeswideopen | Jul 8 2022 18:24 utc | 131

eyeswideopen @131–
The DPRK will find its way into the multipolar world in a clandestine manner as it is currently followed by greater openness as the West dies by its own hands. DPRK’s leaders must continue to be patient and reserved while doing what they can to improve relations with RoK, China and Russia. Attempting to obtain Observer standing in the SCO would be a step in the right direction. DPRK’s greatest asset as far as its “coming out” is concerned is actually RoK’s citizens who want unification and peace, not continued occupation and the threat of war. Hopefully, DPRK’s leaders now understand that they have such an asset, which means they must practice prudence and slowly go about further cultivating that asset. Only with a very high degree of RoK public backing will its leaders be able to confront the occupiers and oust them so unification can occur. So, prudence and patience, which will also enhance DRPK’s relations with China and Russia and aid its economy and social situation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 19:02 utc | 132

Regarding the topic of Liberalism’s death on the other thread, I again provide the link to Putin’s interview with Financial Times where he broached it to the shock of his questioners.
As for the Bridge piece at SCF, he needs to visit Russia before making such wide, meritless generalizations like the one he opens with that is part of his writing style:
” After taking major steps to align itself with the institutions of Western philosophy and thinking, Russia is now giving the West a serious rethink as it struggles to defend the homeland from on onslaught of cultural and social rot.” [My Emphasis]
Such gross unfounded assumptions usually prompt me to cease reading and move on to other material. And since I have a great deal on my plate, I shall do just that.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 19:13 utc | 133

soviet joke: ailing Brezhnev, reading to the CPSU council: “O! O! O! O! O!”. His aide runs and whispers: Leonid Ilyich, those were no letters, those were Olympic logo!
Biden: hold my beer, i’m LARPing it!
https://rutube.ru/video/076ce7ecea31893aca209786a2be3866/
FFS, give the oldman some rest…

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 8 2022 19:38 utc | 134

Posted by: amarynth (TheSaker) | Jul 8 2022 14:53 utc | 115:
Amarynth, thanks for the notice. Just for your information, I found something to be rather interesting that, yesterday when I read here that Saker site was inaccessible, I clicked my ‘bookmark’ and couldn’t get to your site. But about 10 hours later I clicked the same bookmark and your site appeared. What I noticed, however, was that the url had been automatically changed from https to http. I never made the change. Somehow, someone else online did it on my behalf.
Does this mean I’m under some sort of surveillances by some hackers somewhere? If so, this would be interesting to me, though I couldn’t careless.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 8 2022 19:58 utc | 135

@Grieved, #86:
One heck of a post! Thanks for the insight. It will be a valuable reference for me in my ponderance of Buddhism from now on.
Your English prose style is also the best I’ve seen, scanning online among blog sites during the past 2, 3 decades 🙂

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 8 2022 20:04 utc | 136

During Putin’s meeting with the government today, Russian news media picked up on Putin’s comments about sanctions and Russia’s ability to deal with them, but they didn’t report on everything he said in that regard. These are his important words:

And before I give the floor to Alexander Novak, here is what I would like to say. We are constantly talking about our reaction to these restrictions and to the sanctions. And I must note that as a result of the Central Bank’s actions, as a result of the measures taken in a timely manner by the Government of the Russian Federation, supported by the State Duma and the Federation Council, much has been done. And the so-called blitzkrieg that our detractors have conceived against Russia, the economic blitzkrieg – it, of course, failed.
But what I would like to draw your attention to is that it does damage to us, these actions and restrictions are damaging our economy, and many risks still remain. At the same time, I see that some colleagues are already somewhat superficially beginning to relate to the measures that we should take to stop possible threats: they say, do not give a damn about them, these sanctions, they went away, everything is already in the past, we have coped with everything and feel confident. Yes, we should feel confident, but we should see the risks.
Risks remain for certain sectors of production and for the labour market, so I ask the leadership of the Government, heads of ministries and departments to proceed from this: not to treat these risks superficially and to closely monitor the situation, analyze the development of the situation, propose and implement timely measures that would guarantee the stability of our economy and its development in accordance with the plans that we have worked out and approved for the medium term and more long term.[My Emphasis]

Within that long transcript is an excellent report on the state of Russian agriculture. The other notable report is about the aid being given to the Donbass Republics’s education system, which is very substantial. But Putin’s warnings about getting cocky and cavalier about the sanctions are well warranted. The Kaliningrad situation is currently a wild card and thus caution’s required. Russia’s dominant position was arrived at by being prudent, patient and steadfast in development and must remain so.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 22:42 utc | 137

“…galileo got in a lot of trouble as memory serves – excommunicated! technology won in the end as we can see now!”
Posted by: james | Jul 8 2022 15:54 utc | 118
There is an alternate theory in a little book most libraries would have – “Galileo’s Daughter” by Dava Sobel, published in 1999. As I remember, Galileo was not himself immersed in Church relationships, but his daughter, whom he loved very much, was a nun. He was skating on the edge of Church dictates his whole career, and it was she who helped soften the blows that dangerous practice would certainly have brought upon him.
He was indeed brought before the Inquisition for his espousal of Copernicus’s theory that the earth revolves around the sun, and perhaps moved by his daughter’s influence,(I don’t remember – she may already have died) he recanted, remaining under house arrest for the rest of his life.
As I remember the book’s ending, there is somewhere, in Rome perhaps, a tomb which was investigated in modern times, in which two bodies had been buried, one being male,the other female. Could these have been Galileo and his daughter? I don’t know how true that is, so someone may correct the supposition; I just remember Sobel felt it could be so, describing the discovery in her book.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2022 22:48 utc | 138

@ c1ue | Jul 8 2022 16:24 utc | 120
thanks c1ue.. we are on the same page here… i don’t want to see people get hurt either… cheers..
@ juliania | Jul 8 2022 22:48 utc | 138
that’s fascinating… i haven’t heard of this before, but the book and story are very interesting……..being excommunicated would have mattered a lot more then, then it does today.. cheers!

Posted by: james | Jul 8 2022 23:04 utc | 139

@ Grieve #86
“But in the Buddhist teachings I personally never heard that term used. It was always rebirth. The difference between the two terms is not only a chasm but I think in many ways illustrates the Buddhist teachings.”
Yes, that’s why I asked Suzan for the classic terms for the two words because I don’t recall the doctrine distinguishing the two either. That said, though, the Tibetans do have their unusual tulku tradition. Also, in India even today children are occasionally born with memories of previous lives and they can even lead their parents to their old families since they remember their names and address. Now there are other explanations for that than direct incarnation but still.
For example a strict Buddhist way of viewing that might be that it’s a form of extension of consciousness from one body to another – Tibetan yogis can enter fresh corpses of people or animals acc. to the old stories – but doesn’t change the underlying truth that no self truly really exists in perpetuity which again is already the case moment by moment though it doesn’t feel that way to most us pre-realization.
These things can go round and round forever so I generally never think about them but karlov1 cracked a joke about it and I couldn’t resist chiming in.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 8 2022 23:07 utc | 140

“Alexander Mercouris has ventured that Chinese lockdowns are serving as dress rehearsal for conditioning the people for a war vs. the US.
Thoughts ? Posted by: Dale | Jul 7 2022 16:33 utc | 6”

The Covid death toll in China is about 5,000 – in the US, over a million.
That’s a more obvious motivator.

Posted by: daffyDuct | Jul 9 2022 0:51 utc | 141

Alexander Mercouris has ventured that Chinese lockdowns are serving as dress rehearsal for conditioning the people for a war vs. the US.
Thoughts ? Posted by: Dale | Jul 7 2022 16:33 utc | 6″
The Covid death toll in China is about 5,000 – in the US, over a million.
That’s a more obvious motivator.
Posted by: daffyDuct | Jul 9 2022 0:51 utc | 142
Yes agreed.
Mercouris is a conservative commentator, he’s on of the best of his kind but his imagination is constrained by his own background and ideology, I don’t know why its not more obvious that the Chinese government takes covid as seriously as a bio weapon. Which is very likely is.

Posted by: K | Jul 9 2022 2:26 utc | 142

for how long…this works.
Dieser Link geht zu Saker aus DE heraus.
.
http://thesaker.is/
Posted by: m | Jul 8 2022 21:52 utc | 75
Thank you, m.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 9 2022 2:35 utc | 143

Jan 2012
DHS predicted a global pandemic ‘within a year‘ [[1]
Jun 2012
NIH sponsored scientists Ron Fouchier and Yoshihiro Kawaoka proudly publicised their
recipe for H5N1 bird flu weaponisation.

Why would any sane person publish details about how to weaponize bird flu? We are not dealing with sane people. We are dealing with people infected by the blasphemous reality of the mentally ill: Satanism. We are dealing with Illuminists-Satanists who are out to execute their agenda for depopulation, genocide, fomenting chaos, diseases, deaths, violence …. to initiate hell on earth … to prepare the way for their fake messiah, the Anti-Christ, the bringer of false peace, the white horseman of Revelation 6. They want to use bio-weapons and even race specific Bird Flu in this coming Satanic World War 3.

This act of publishing the detail how-to of airborne transmissible virulent Bird Flu is just for plausible deniability before the western Illuminati employs it. They will say it is an act of rogue terrorists and nothing to do with their MIC.

[2]
Dec 2012
H7N9 hit China.
[1]
Incidentally, DHS’s pardner , the notorious FBI was dubbed ‘terrorists factory’…cuz over 90% of ‘domestic terrorism’ had been found to be FBI FF
[2]
shorturl.at/efkX4

Posted by: denk | Jul 9 2022 3:01 utc | 144

correct url
shorturl.at/biOSY

Posted by: denk | Jul 9 2022 3:32 utc | 145

The Cradle has some wonderful news stories right now that may be hard to find in other outlets less concerned with southwest Asia, the Middle East. And while several of them caught my interest, one of them caught my heart.
Salam, Farmandeh (Salute, Commander) is the result of an initiative by Ayatollah Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, who asked Iranian poets to come up with a song – or more properly, I suppose, a hymn – that could capture the youth and bring real meaning to them of Islam’s great vision of the coming of Imam al-Mahdi.
Here’s the article:
Religious Iranian song goes viral, uniting Muslims across West Asia
And here’s the YouTube direct link to the video of children singing this heart-rending evocation of devotion:
Abozar Roohi | Salam Farmande (Salute commander)
The melody alone is haunting. The words are sharper than diamond.
~~
Some may find this not to their taste. For myself, I was captured, and lost to the purity of this thing.

The world without you doesn’t have any meaning…
Please arrive .. I’ll give up on my life for you, please arrive…
Salute commander…
from the zealous generation who’s left behind…
I make an oath to become your Qassem Soleimani when you need me…

~~
I think one has to understand how the Iranian culture regards martyrdom, and love of God, and honorable life in the world and in one’s nation and community.
I have only a glimpse of how that is for them, but enough to think that these children are being given something vastly more worthy of their love and devotion than are the children of the west today. And they are not alienated from their country and their religion, they are become one with all the nation and all the culture.
I would not want to fight these people, unless I had a morally superior cause, and I can’t think of one that could possibly exceed theirs.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 9 2022 3:54 utc | 146

@147 more…
And to see where this goes, and how it manifests upon the land, watch this clip of one hundred thousand, utterly beautiful individual people, united in the heart-rending performance of this hymn and love song to the sacred and ineffable, and to the worldly, and to those things of great worth:
100,000 Iranians gather at Azadi Stadium to sing ” Salute Commander “
That is one discerning camera. Not at all a mass of people. Individuals. With some hearts broken from events but most simply bursting with purpose and celebration.
Salute Commander.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 9 2022 4:36 utc | 147

@ Grieved | Jul 9 2022 4:36 utc | 148 with the link to the 100,000 Iranians singing Salute Commander video….quite moving
The statement from your previous comment says it best

I would not want to fight these people, unless I had a morally superior cause, and I can’t think of one that could possibly exceed theirs.

Thanks for sharing a look at what humanity in the West can/should only stand in awe of because the energy from these people in the video is obviously real and showing passion together about those that defend their way of life.
Compare that to the current dystopia in the West…..sigh

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 9 2022 5:01 utc | 148

@Grieved, #147, #148:
thanks for the links in these two posts. Touching videos.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jul 9 2022 5:48 utc | 149

As to the issue that religion, and exponentially compounding interest on value (speaking in the vernacular here) has cropped up here, recall my statement here of a few weeks ago:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ //
At a rather old age, I have received a vision of what the real world actually is. The real world is Ubiquity. Ubiquity is everywhere. It is somewhat like the Tao, but perhaps not. Who knows? They call me ‘blues’ but really I am RKJoyce, and I am the Prophet. You must learn about Ubiquity, become a Ubiquitan. Stop worrying about ‘good’, ‘evil’, and all suchlike. The people who live the ‘high and mighty’ narrative are always the most dangerous ones. They are afflicted with surdignifism, have way too much ‘self-esteem’. This automatically entails the existence of people afflicted with subdignifism, who live the ‘low and soiled’ narrative. Once you find the Truth of Ubiquity, you will shed such absurd extremes as much as you can, as although they be inbuilt and instinctive, they are harmful to the true self-narrative. Then, you will strive for apodignitism, where peace and equalitarianism become your true self-narrative. May Ubiquity show you the way to great blessings.
\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My dear long gone grandfather on my father’s side knew absolutely everything. His wife, on the other hand, was so obsessed with Christianity that her vague awareness of the external world probably extended, at the extreme end, to the existence of Elvis Presley. Strange family. Yet from out of nowhere, she would make reference to reincarnation. Stranger still. So of course I started my own religion. Religion is about birth and death, and mainly it is about ‘time’. Physicists are still quite confused about what this time thing really is, which is of course as it should be.
Suppose there really is no such thing as time. There is only now, only this very instant. Remember that ‘loan’ you were supposed to pay off? Well you should just forget about it, the ‘past’ is just an illusion. Worried that the heroin you are shooting up will get you addicted by next week? Don’t. There is no ‘next week’. Now your life has become very simple, since you pretty much don’t have to worry about anything (except maybe you desperately need another hit of the big ‘H’). So that’s one way to deal.
On the other side are those who are morbidly concerned about the past. Maybe about 2,000 year-old grievances they were indoctrinated into taking gravely seriously. Or people afraid to step outside because they they know (euphemism is mandatory here) that they have a ‘future’ date with some fast-moving bus.
Ubiquitans seek a Ballance between such extremes. Ubiquity is everywhere. The world is a vast Twilight Forest, deep and infinitely dense, ultimately beyond comprehension. Magnificent flowers, rivers flowing with blood, all around, and time is a vast mystery, yet Ubiquitous.

Posted by: RKJoyce – Prophet | Jul 9 2022 6:17 utc | 150

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 9 2022 3:54 utc | 147 & 148
Thank you for linking this. The article calls Salute, Commander a “blessed anthem”; it is a cry from the heart expressing grief, love, devotion and rising together in power.
All under the blood red banner still flying over Jamkaran Mosque.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jul 9 2022 8:37 utc | 151

Fire burns into another giant sequoia grove, this time in Yosemite National Park

Preliminary surveys found that in a two year period, 2020 and 2021, almost 20 percent of all giant sequoias in their natural range over four feet in diameter were killed by fire (and neglect) or will die in the next few years. In 2020, 10 to 14 percent of the entire Sierra Nevada population of giant sequoia trees over 4 feet in diameter were killed in the Castle Fire. [more]

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 9 2022 8:56 utc | 152

Excellent article about Europe’s mediocre politicians in a new found French site.
https://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre/article/mortelle-plaisanterie-d-une-242620

Posted by: Paco | Jul 9 2022 9:32 utc | 153

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 8 2022 19:02 utc | 132
I assume you meant the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation? I agree that granting it an observer status would be a significant improvement in it’s current status. Although I suppose the Chinese/Russian avowed adherence to the U.N might preclude such a move. Still, one can hope.
This situation needs a kick up the proverbial in order to provide some impetus towards any kind of resolution whether reunification is still on the table or not.

Posted by: eyeswideopen | Jul 9 2022 10:57 utc | 154

#11 “c1ue” “This view may be wrong, but it is a mistake to think BoJo fell due to scandal. If the UK economy was making so, the scandals would have rolled off BoJo’s back as they have been for many years. It is this tide of rising anger which led this particular scandal to stick, not the scandal itself.”
The fall of Boris has been due to his MPs, not to popular anger, and if there has been popular anger it has been pumped up by the right-wing media with trivial stories about beers at work meetings and expensive wallpaper.
The fall of Boris has been due to a concerted attack by the right-wing “whig”/globalist faction (reaganites, clintonistas, neoliberals) against the “tory”/nationalist factions (paleocons, buchananians, trumpers). Some media even got their chief editors switches 1-2 years from “nationalist” to “globalist”. All their attacks have been character attacks against Boris specifically, not against the Conservatives as a party. Which is ridiculous, because when Boris became Foreign Secretary or Party Leader or Prime Minister everybody already knew he was a bad character, but useful.
Just like in the USA, and obviously the “deep state” has also been attacking Boris. But in the UK the “paleocons” are stronger in the “deep state” than Trump was, so it has been a bit more or a struggle.
The USA “deep state” probably have been somewhat neutral because both the “nationalist” and “globalist” are extremely loyal to USA interests, even if probably they prefer the “globalists” because the “nationalists” achieved brexit, which has hurt the branches of USA corporates in the UK that were setup to export to the rest of the EU.
As long as real estate prices continue to boom in the UK then Conservative voters will be happy, and currently they are booming at 14%, much faster than the re of inflation of 9-10%.

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 9 2022 11:21 utc | 155

«however during the sea trip the ship was stopped by the Russian Navy and escorted to a Russian port.»
Asa to piracy on the high seas:
“>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/7/uk-warship-seized-advanced-iranian-missiles-bound-for-yemen>
«A British Royal Navy vessel seized a sophisticated shipment of Iranian missiles in the Gulf of Oman earlier this year, officials have claimed, presenting it as proof of Tehran’s support for Yemen’s Houthi rebels in the war-torn country. […]
The HMS Montrose’s helicopter had been scanning for illicit goods in the Gulf of Oman on January 28 and February 25 when it spotted small vessels speeding away from the Iranian coast with “suspicious cargo on deck.” A team of Royal Marines then halted and searched the boats, confiscating the weapons in international waters south of Iran. A US Navy guided-missile destroyer supported the British warship’s February operation. Fifth Fleet Vice Admiral Brad Cooper said the seizure reflected the Navy’s “strong commitment to regional security and stability”.»

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 9 2022 11:28 utc | 156

#120 “c1ue”
«I fully agree things will get worse for most people.»
But since Reagan and Thatcher the wealth and income of the upper-middle and upper classes, 20-40% of voters, have been booming, thanks to ballooning real estate and stock market prices, engineered by both parties. The bottommost 60-80% of people don’t matter because no major party represents their interests, and when someone tries to do that, even in the mildest way, they get destroyed (Sanders, Corbyn) with dirty tricks.
«in a decaying society either»
But it is decaying only for the bottommost 60-80% of people. For those in leafy suburbs or gated enclaves things have only got a lot better. Given that there are billions of workers in the global work market that are willing to work hard for $1-2 per hour, most of the USA/UK workforce is just pointless in the view of the upper-middle and upper classes.
«In the runup to 2007, I naively believed that the enormous real estate bubble was going to pop (correct) but that the policies that led to this bubble would be replaced by sane ones (very incorrect).»
The same happened after the UK crash of the 1990s and the USA stock crash of 2001. I also have been astonished that the ruling classes have doubled down in each case. But at least the top ones have prepared their escape routes;
https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1
«It was precisely at that time that I concluded that the “people in charge” in the US were irretrievably corrupt and also incompetent.»
They are far from incompetent, they have been winning for 40 years. And the problem is not that they are corrupt, but that their *voters* are corrupt., they have been very happily bribed with enormous real estate and stock market capital gains, entirely paid for by the lower classes.
«the speed of decay to get an understanding of when it was likely to hurt Americans enough that change might be possible.»
The decays will continue: the USA upper and upper-middle classes have decisively chosen the brazilian/mexican model, of upper-middle and upper classes living in comfort or luxury surrounded by irrelevant lower classes living in favelas (there are lots of favelas or worse in the USA today already).
The lower classes will occasionally riot, but that for the ruling classes is just a (small) cost of doing business. The brazilian/mexican experience tells them that the decay of the lower classes is a sustainable political situation.

Posted by: Blissex | Jul 9 2022 12:03 utc | 157

Next UK PM will be Liz Truss under whom England will win her Independance from Northern Ireland and Scotland.
This will be called Englexit.
At the end of it, the City will win its Independance from England – to be called Exit.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jul 9 2022 12:07 utc | 158

Less than one year after DHS warning on global pandemic, China was hit by another bout of H7N9.

Should the U.S. intend to launch a global pandemic for the purposes of population reduction and/or genocide, what better mechanism than to plant a bug in a faraway country, to obscure the genesis of the initiating event and to make this appear as if this were out of the U.S.’s control and jurisdiction?
The fact that several selective delivery systems for biological/chemical warfare have already been documented within the borders of the United States adds credence to the perception that a flu planted in another country could be used as a cover for a selective devastation of certain demographic groups within the First World. The declaration of a global pandemic gives the WHO the power to mandate vaccinations, overriding sovereign national law concerning the right of refusal.
Vaccines, imposter pharmaceuticals, the double line water system — any and all of these mechanisms could be used to launch a bio/chem attack under the cover of a global pandemic.

Rings a bell ?

https://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/united-states-accused-of-planting-avian.html

Posted by: denk | Jul 9 2022 13:25 utc | 159

The following is an excerpt from an article about BoJo’s failure written a month ago after the No Confidence vote – which he won.
https://compactmag.com/article/behind-boris-s-failure
“To grasp the meaning of European integration beyond the bromides of pro-EU ideologists, it is necessary to look to member-state theory, a theoretical body of work that suggests that European integration should be understood, above all, as a process of state transformation. The state transformation in question is from the nation state to the new category of EU member state. A nation state is a familiar political construct: a vertical relationship between political elites and citizenry in which a state gains legitimacy through representing the people. A member state is, on the other hand, a horizontal relationship: policy direction and inspiration are to be found in interactions between the political elites of different member states in the various councils of the European Union. EU political elites, in the post-political decades of the 1990s and 2000s, increasingly turned away from domestic citizenries and national political contestation to draw legitimacy from the elites of other EU states. In other words, the state’s claim to power and authority came not to be grounded in representing its people, but in the vaguer claims to competence and expertise gained from interacting with the political class of other states in the union.”
This issue will soon come to the fore in the geopolitical arena as the new order is established once the hegemon is superseded by enough other nations banding together to chart a different path forward together. The challenge will be how to maintain the principle of the individual sovereignty of each member state without over-centralizing supra organization turning them into the sort of castrated member states described in this article in the EU context.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 9 2022 14:59 utc | 160

Those who are unable to access the Saker site may want to try an internet archive:
https://archive.ph/http://thesaker.is/*

Posted by: Browser | Jul 9 2022 15:38 utc | 161

Link to Saker pages at archive.ph

Posted by: Browser | Jul 9 2022 15:45 utc | 162

Okay, last attempt:
Link to Saker pages at archive.ph –
shorturl.at/cITW8

Posted by: Browser | Jul 9 2022 15:46 utc | 163

Scorpion@160
“..A nation state is a familiar political construct: a vertical relationship between political elites and citizenry in which a state gains legitimacy through representing the people. ..”
Is it though? In most of the EU the states that people live in are of very recent vintage. Most of eastern Europe emerged from one empire or another in the early C20th or later. And many, like the Baltic trio, came out only to go back in soon after. And then so far as the nation states are concerned they have shown a tendency to break up into mini-states (Yugoslavia-Serbia-Kossovo).
In fact historically, in places like the former Czechoslovak and Yugoslav states institutions like the EU are much more familiar than ‘nation states’ vertically organised.
I have always seen the EU as a revived Hapsburg Empire, in which the various national elites are very happy to be protected from those underneath them by a big strong bureaucracy. Come to think of for many years the Hapsburg Empire was ruled from Brussels or thereabouts rather than Vienna.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 9 2022 22:07 utc | 164

Here in the UK the killer-technology is everywhere. There are two videos in this piece which the sleeping millions need to watch.
https://johnplatinumgoss.com/2022/07/10/death-caps-courtesy-of-wef/

Posted by: John Goss | Jul 10 2022 4:44 utc | 165

@Blissex #155, #157
I find nothing in either of your posts that is the least bit believable.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 10 2022 5:14 utc | 166

Seems opportunity always beckons, in the form of ‘terrarist’ attack, ‘earthquake’, ‘tsunami’, ‘pandmic‘, whenever USAss covets an intervention ?
Or Is it a case of
gawd helps those who help themselves ?
Plague Big Opportunity, Rat Says
Wilbur Ross on c19

it does give businesses [cough] yet another thing to consider when they go through their review of their supply chain,
“On top of all the other things, you had SARS, you have the African swine virus there, now you have this. It’s another risk factor that people need to take into account.”

When gringo talk about ‘competing with China’, its all about wrecking the Chinese supply chain, .
Trump’s trade war didnt cut it but Ross was gloating on C19 great promise to bring on USAss coveted GLOBAL Chinese Exclusion Act, forcing an exodus of foreign investment
Interesting that he’d mention SARS as well.
Fact is, USAss trade war didnt start with Trump, he merely escalated it.
SARS was the first major attempt to torpedo
Chinese economy…
Jon Rappoport

Trade wars go on all the time, and the US versus Asia is no exception. The US CDC has pitched in to put a major crinkle in Asia’s economies.

Michael C. Ruppert and Wayne Madsen
Combining Biological and Economic Warfare

Hitting China in the Pocketbook
A look at a series of stories in The Wall Street Journal shows the economic damage done to China and also that the economic impact of the disease is mutating perhaps as quickly as the virus itself.
On April 21, 2003, in a story headlined, “China Economy to Slow as SARS Takes Toll,” the Journal described the heavy economic toll the disease was taking and observed, “But the weekend news unnerved many Chinese. Wang Haibo, a boisterous 27-year-old accountant carrying a bag full of disinfectant bottles for her office said she and her co-workers planned to lobby their bosses for a month off, even without pay.” That sounds like a perfect 10 from the CIA’s intended results of bioweapons as psychological terror tools.

http://www.whale.to/v/sars1.html
https://www.fromthewilderness.net/free/ww3/050903_SARS.html
https://gizmodo.com/plague-big-opportunity-rat-says-1841363830
https://www.unz.com/article/covid-19-may-have-originated-in-us-biolab-lancet-commission-chair/#comment-5426887
PS
from the horse mouth….
PNAC 1997
Race specific virus can be used as a very
effective political [or economic] weapon.
—————————————

Posted by: denk | Jul 11 2022 3:20 utc | 167