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July 15, 2022
NYT Continues To Report ‘Strikes On Civilians’ That Somehow Happen To Hit Military Targets

Just last week the New York Times reported of a Russian strike ‘on civilians’ in Chasiv Yar even as its own reporter at the location acknowledged in a detailed separate report that the apartment complex that was hit was mostly housing military forces.

Yesterday a Russian missile strike hit the town of Vinnytsia in western Ukraine.

The New York Times is again lamenting about a damage to civilian buildings even as the main target was obviously a military one.

Strikes on Civilians Deep in Ukraine Show Russia’s Lethal Reach

VINNYTSIA, Ukraine — A volley of missiles hit a shopping center, a dance studio and a wedding hall in central Ukraine on Thursday, killing at least 23 people and setting off a frantic search for dozens more missing in the rubble, in the latest strike to hit civilian targets far from the front line.

Seventy-one people, including three children, were hospitalized after three missiles hit the center of Vinnytsia, a typically sleepy provincial capital, leaving behind a harrowing scene of smoking ruins.

The attack used cruise missiles fired by a Russian submarine in the Black Sea, President Volodymyr Zelensky’s office said. It said three children were among those killed in the strike on Vinnytsia, about 240 miles inland from the coast.

“Every day, Russia destroys the civilian population, kills Ukrainian children, directs rockets at civilian objects,” Mr. Zelensky said. “What is this, if not an open act of terrorism?”

The Times leads its write up with this picture.


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There is a distinctive monument in the picture of a fighter jet flying through some ring and a neoclassic building behind it.

Here is a satellite picture of the area.


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The photographer who took the NYT picture was standing near the top left of the satellite picture and took the photograph towards the mid bottom of the satellite picture. The fighter jet installations that was photographed is marked by Google as ‘Monument in Honor of the Air Force of Ukraine’. The neoclassic building is the U-shaped one on the left marked as the ‘House of Officer’s’.

The NYT even mentions the ‘House of Officers’ but only describes it as a ‘potential target’ and only in the sixth paragraph:

The missiles hit a military officers’ club, a potential target, though one in a densely built-up central neighborhood of the city.

However video taken shortly after the strike shows that The ‘House of Officers’ was completely destroyed and thereby obviously the main target of the attack.


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The video the above picture is clipped from was taken from a car driving on the bottom left road visible in the satellite picture towards the center of it.

While the House of Officers external walls are still standing the roof is gone and one can see through the building.

Here is another picture of it.


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A civilian high rise building that the NYT also pictured is visible on the top of the satellite image labeled ‘Kredo Bank’.


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The building shows no damage from a direct hit by a missile. It had its windows blown out by the shockwave of the explosion at the nearby House of Officers and it is blackened from a fire that had been burning in its lower left part. Here is a video with an overview of the plaza showing the damaged House of Officers and the fire with very dark smoke at the high rise north of it. Here is another one showing the fire. It was reported that 50 cars on a parking lot had also burned there. The shopping center, a dance studio and wedding hall that the NYT laments in its opening paragraph were likely all in the 1st floor of the high rise building. They were not targeted.

Air defense weapons were also fired. They might have caused additional damage:

Ukraine’s national police said three missiles hit an office building and damaged nearby residential buildings in Vinnytsia, which is about 167 miles southwest of the capital, Kyiv.

The missile strike ignited a fire that expanded to engulf 50 cars in an adjacent parking lot. The governor of the Vinnytsia region, Serhiy Borzov, said Ukrainian air defense systems shot down another four missiles over the area.

The ‘office building’ that the Ukraine’s national police claims was hit was in fact the ‘House of Officers’ owned by the Ukrainian military.

There were also an unusual number of people in military clothing helping with the casualties.


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The Times continues to play a shell game when it claims hits ‘on civilians’ even as the targets are clearly military ones:

The strike came amid other recent attacks on populated civilian areas.

And in the eastern village of Chasiv Yar, in Donetsk, the State Emergency Service said the death toll from a strike on an apartment complex over the weekend had risen to 48, making it one of the deadliest attacks since the war began.

More deadly attacks are happening every day at the front line where Russia artillery takes out any larger grouping of Ukraine’s military.

As for the dead in Chasiv Yar here is again what the Times Carlotta Gall reported from that location:

[A resident of Chasiv Yar village, Oleksandr, 31,] said that about 10 civilians, mostly women on pensions, were living in the building at the time of the strike, but that members of the military had come to lodge there two days earlier.

A Russian strike hit the apartment building. Only 10 civilians were living there, but at least 48 people have died in the strike. 38 of the dead must thus have been ‘members of the military’ who were lodging there. That they did so made the apartment complex a legitimate military target.

Now let’s see what the Russian military claims to have hit in Vinnytsia:

On July 13, Kalibr high-precision sea-based missiles were launched at the House of Officers of the garrison in Vinnitsa.

The facility hosted a conference of the Ukrainian Armed Force command with representatives of foreign armament suppliers aimed at discussing the issues on sending another batch of aircraft, destruction means, as well as on organising the reparation of Ukrainian aircraft.

The attack has resulted in the elimination of the conference participants.

On July 14, shortly after news of the strike in Vinnytsia had come out, the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine issued a new Security Alert – Missile Threat Awareness for U.S. citizens:

Avoid large gatherings and organized events as they may serve as Russian military targets anywhere in Ukraine, including its western regions.

Well, what gave them the idea to say that?

Comments

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 15 2022 20:27 utc | 161
I don’t see any obvious references to Gates buying EU farmland but it’ll be interesting to see if there is a concerted effort to monopolise EU agriculture on the back of what looks to be an almost entirely manufactured crisis.
Prior to the SMO there were reports of corporate agro firms (ADM, Cargill)sniffing about in 404. As I understand it, the 404 area holds some of the most productive cropland on the planet.
We have the bio-labs (H Biden interest), the shale oil and gas extraction ((H Biden interest), the MIC profits, and the reported corporate agro interest, all of which go some way toward explaining the US interest in 404.
Need an investigative journalist to examine this network of relationships. Forget any concern over a fight to maintain “democratic values.” Follow the money & 10% to Mr Big.

Posted by: Sushi | Jul 15 2022 22:45 utc | 201

Natgas futures – eased slightly. Faint trace of optimism!!
TTF Dec’2022 (representing the coming winter): €166, down from recent peak of €186
TTF Dec’2023 (representing the following winter): €118, down from recent peak of €130
I’d hesitate with any feelings of relief tho, as this movement is barely above the “noise”. 10% daily moves back and forth happened several times already since the start of hostilities. Check back in a week!

Posted by: ptb | Jul 15 2022 22:55 utc | 202

Posted by: zet | Jul 15 2022 22:16 utc | 193
Don’t thank me, thank those “pesky” Russians!!
BTW, nice website you have.
Again, for everyone who missed it. Get all your FREE PDFs and epub books here: http://libgen.rs/

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jul 15 2022 22:55 utc | 203

Sushi | Jul 15 2022 22:45 utc | 201
“Prior to the SMO there were reports of corporate agro firms (ADM, Cargill)sniffing about in 404. As I understand it, the 404 area holds some of the most productive cropland on the planet…
Need an investigative journalist to examine this network of relationships.”

I still recall this excellent piece from 2014 by JP Sottile.
“Behind the U.S.-backed coup that ousted the democratically elected president of Ukraine are the economic interests of giant corporations from Cargill to Chevron which see the country as a potential “gold mine” of profits from agricultural and energy exploitation, reports JP Sottile.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/16/corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch/

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jul 15 2022 22:57 utc | 204

wo obituaries for air force officers were published after the rocket attack on Vinnitsa. Secretary of the Coordination Council:
TVO of the head of the military-scientific department of the headquarters of the Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant Colonel Puzyrenko K. G
another obituary. fighter of the special forces company of the 112th brigade Vladimir Datsenko died

Posted by: Pablo Polyansky | Jul 15 2022 23:05 utc | 205

I was a member of the Canada Greens back in the very early days, late 1970s and early 80s. The last meeting I attended was a full evening discussion of which was better for the environment, natural or artificial christmas trees.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 15 2022 20:55 utc | 170

Well, don’t keep us in suspense. 8^)

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 15 2022 23:08 utc | 206

As someone who grew up on a farm, i really get angry at this topic. When i was young (which was not long ago) our village in the mountainswas full of farms. Each had 10 or 20 or 30 cows at max. Nobody bought any fertilizer. All was just the biproduct of the farm itself. Everything was grown directly there. The cows would be transported to the mountain ranges where they would spent the summer and grass. No farmer would overuse its soil since they used it for centuries.
Then in the 90s the eu came along told us, this small farming wasnt economical and you needed to either transform into a fabric with hundreds of pieces of animals or give it up. Those who tried started to buy all the chemicals necessary to generate the output to survive.
20 years later the eu comes along again and tells us that this farming they forced all of us to switch to isnt ecological and we need therefor to shut down.
Well last week i went home. Out of hundreds of farmers i grew up with exactly one is left.
I have nothing than dispair for academics in their capital offices. If they left the farmers alone none of the soil and no forrest would disappear. Farmers who carried on their business for centuries know that they need to live from their land and preserve it. But you can be sure that some power drunk beaurocrat will come along one year that you musg use monsanto bs because otherwise bug x will settle and you are a danger to the collrctive while 3 years later they will forbid you to do so to rescue the same bug.
But the central planing of idiots who feel intelligent by making idiot forecasts based on limited knowledge of complex systems is everywhere. Every legislation these people set up make things worse which is logical because crntral planing is always worse than individual responsibility.
But keep on. Lets globally solve the nitrogen problem. The outcome will be desastrous.

Posted by: Orgel | Jul 15 2022 23:10 utc | 207

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jul 15 2022 22:57 utc | 204
Amazing place MoA.
Post a half baked memory of something from 8 years ago and presto presto like Aladdins lamp the item appears in a link.
Thanks!

Posted by: Sushi | Jul 15 2022 23:11 utc | 208

The take is that Siversk can be given up because the northern fortifications of the Kramatorsk line are complete, but Bakhmut needs to hold for a while until the fortifications on the southern end of the Kramatorsk line needed to be completed. Once that line gives, its probably a few weeks at best to the Dnieper and the complete collapse of the southern front.
Posted by: Roger | Jul 15 2022 22:39 utc | 200
So do you – or anyone – have a good explanation for what UK-NATO-US think they are doing right now in Ukraine? What’s their mission and desired end game?

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 23:18 utc | 209

Screwdriver@159…feeding the cattle grain, maze mostly, produces the ‘fat marbling’ that most people want in their steak.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 15 2022 23:20 utc | 210

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jul 15 2022 22:57 utc | 204
Excellent article, well worth reading for a better understanding of the origins of the present 404 conflict which extend back to 2007. The comments deliver additional insight.
The answer is that the seeds of Ukraine’s turn from Russia have been sown for the last two decades by the persistent Cold War alliance between corporations and foreign policy. It’s a version of the “Deep State” that is usually associated with the oil and defense industries, but also exists in America’s other heavily subsidized industry, agriculture.
SOURCE:
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/16/corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch/

Posted by: Sushi | Jul 15 2022 23:30 utc | 211

Posted by: Roger | Jul 15 2022 22:39 utc | 200
Another excellent Military Summary update – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrI7pEaBCHIH
“He says that he has two conflicting very reliable sources – one says that the Russians are in Siversk, the other says that the Russians are on the eastern outskirts of Siversk.”
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I watched the Summary today, and it occurred to me that both sources may be correct. Two sources in different places (sources located in different places) may well not have a full picture of events.

Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jul 15 2022 23:35 utc | 212

Posted by: ptb | Jul 15 2022 22:55 utc | 202
After a healthy – though a little too rapid – correction, the weekly chart seems to indicate probability of testing recent high. The rectangle area is the volume histogram’s most dense zone on the Daily Chart. Market corrected back down to top part of that zone near previous support-resistance swing highs and the yearly VWAP (turquoise) started on first week of this year. which is bullish. That said, there is a slightly parabolic feel to this (admittedly non-logarithmic) chart and given it’s a weekly, that is cause for concern. So most likely either going back up to the highs or if hesitates might chop around for a while between 7.5 and 5.5.
This has different price values from yours. I am just using the default continuous futures chart that comes with Trading View. Sorry for any confusion that might engender.
https://www.tradingview.com/x/3Rqo2A8t/

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 23:41 utc | 213

In the heated partisan atmosphere of war it is easy to forget how faithfully our ukrainian allies defend our values:
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/woman-jailed-for-five-years-in-ukraine-for-posting-communist-symbols-on-social-media

Posted by: bevin | Jul 15 2022 23:47 utc | 214

Given that the Earth’s atmosphere is 78 percent nitrogen the EU has their work cut out to achieve any reduction in atmospheric nitrogen. As Brody famously said in Jaws: “You’re going to need a bigger law.”
Posted by: Sushi | Jul 15 2022 16:41 utc | 56.
Interesting it is not! Perhaps the greedy cash-strapped Spanish Farmers. Seek to double down on EU farm subsidies. Just like their greedier Dutch cousins????
A chief fallacy argument. Is to refer to gas pollutants by generic terms eg CO2 equals carbon pollution/beneficial gas required for plant growth.
No, the issue is not about the production of nitrogen as per that which constitutes a major part of the earth’s atmosphere.
A coin has three sides.
Here is not what the farmers wish the non-skeptical gullible ones to know. Yet make false fictitious claims. Whilst, knowingly and very deliberately with-holding critical data.
Question: Which country in the EU receives the highest per capita EU farm/equipment subsidies? Answer: It is the same protesters we see blocking the transport of goods to feed and clothe the local natives.
Question: Which country has instigated a farmland buy-back scheme? Answer The same country where these farmers call home.
Question: What is this nitrogen pollution refer to? Answer The oxides of nitrogen. These pollutant gases form an evil threat. Acid rain/photochemical smog/ozone depletion/climate warming. For example, Nitrogen dioxide equals 300% of the heat retention ability of Carbon dioxide.
Question: What comes out of both the front end and rear end of ruminant cows and cattle? Answer: Methane.
Question: If the majority of farmland in this country. Recovered from the sea is below the current sea level. What is the maximum height of the main coffer dam sea wall? Answer: Two meters or six and a half feet in non-metric terms.
Question: Which country’s wastewater and sewage system has reached the critical stage? Answer: Well we all know who is responsible. The very same so-called lazy ass, dumb&dumber protesting very greedy farmers………
The answers for these idiot scum dumb&dumber greedy farmers. Is to be found in a small extremely wealthy very green town in southern Bavaria! Sadly, greed for doubling down on EU farm subsidies. Blinds all fools and idiots.
Sadly, the protesters supplied two per cent of the information. Question more…….

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 15 2022 23:48 utc | 215

TV?
I guess I’m missing out.
Never owned one, although my family did have one in the early 60’s, which I watched (all three channels).
Some working class girl friends I lived with in the early 70’s, as I remember had phones.
But from the thread, I feel left out—-

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jul 15 2022 23:48 utc | 216

@sam smith #203
This one is good too: https://b-ok.lat/
The last letters will change depending on where you are on the planet. (I’m in Mexico so get ‘lat.’)

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 23:55 utc | 217

Scorpion – I suspect the Russians haven’t (yet) fully cut off energy to Europe due to a mixture of caution and pragmatism. Russia does need money, and its Euro-oriented infrastructure can’t be rerouted to southern Asia in a few months or years.
But also, it’s a weapon that can only be used once, and represents another escalation of the war. Russia has usually been cautious under President Putin.
I don’t think NordStream is coming back online though. All signs point to Russia wanting to make sure the EU can’t fill its gas storage facilities before winter. A Europe lit by candles, and possibly riots, may struggle to continue supporting Ukraine.

Posted by: ZX | Jul 16 2022 0:00 utc | 218

the new propaganda line on canadian news is “russia targets universities”. i’m making a wild guess that it will turn out like every other goddamn story where ukies + human shields = civilian deaths. i have noticed very few of these narratives pop up more than once or twice. some days there is zero coverage of the actual operation and instead fluff pieces about “this refugee yada yada adversity yada yada ‘close the sky’, cut to ukie flag”. usually someone from kiev.

Posted by: the pair | Jul 16 2022 0:02 utc | 219

So do you – or anyone – have a good explanation for what UK-NATO-US think they are doing right now in Ukraine? What’s their mission and desired end game?
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 23:18 utc | 209
The ‘decolonizing of Russia’
https://www.csce.gov/international-impact/events/decolonizing-russia
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/russia-putin-colonization-ukraine-chechnya/639428/
A month or so back a link to the think tank that came up with the idea was easy to find. They had a map of the various states the Russian Federation would be parted into.
All trace of it now appears wiped from the internet. Even an image search does not turn up the map.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 0:04 utc | 220

Posted by: ZX | Jul 16 2022 0:00 utc | 218
Both yours and karlov1’s earlier reply make sense. I personally have a conspiratorially sneaky suspicion that this is a managed conflict which might also explain it somewhat but assuming that’s going out on a ledge too far then their holding back on playing that card until the right time makes sense.
Perhaps after Donetsk is liberated and the new offer is made, that card might be presented as the stick portion or will actually then be played if it’s time to let all hell break loose as the Serbian President recently predicted.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 16 2022 0:08 utc | 221

Posted by: Orgel | Jul 15 2022 23:10 utc | 207
“Well last week i went home. Out of hundreds of farmers i grew up with exactly one is left.”
Appreciate your personal story Orgel. It’s the same here in the Midwest U.S. where farmers sell out to big agribusiness companies like Cargill, some stay on and work as slaves, many have terminal health problems; asthma, cancers, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinson. Most are diabetic. We’re getting aerial fungicide and insecticide spray from a plane every day in July.

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 16 2022 0:12 utc | 222

“…Many people here think this war will somehow end up cleansing the filthy West and allowing the good and pure to lead the world into a bright new future. I am simply unable to embrace this not having enough historical knowledge…”
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 20:43 utc | 165
I don’t think many who post here regularly think that, Scorpion. We have, after all, seen the agonizingly slow ongoing violence being wrought in and on the world, for some folk all of their young lives. And we older ones had our share, but it did seem there were times, restful times, between conflicts. That’s really all I yearn for, for all, a restful, peaceful time. And that because of these labors, this suffering, something greater than those earlier moments of peace will be granted sooner rather than later. With stability gained for the nation that is suffering most, Ukraine/Russia – however that entity comes to be. We see the first blossomings in some areas. More will come.
When it comes to this SMO, all I hold onto is Putin’s view that Russia was up against the threat of its own ceasing to be, that there was no other choice because they had tried and tried, and the threat in their view never abated, always increased.
The west knows what it is doing. And should thereby sink in the esteem of all, including their own citizenry. It did not have to be this way.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 16 2022 0:36 utc | 223

@213 Scorpion
I’m very cautious about applicability of technical analysis for this situation. This story is all fundamentals, everything is relatively fixed except the pipeline supply and the weather (which is secondary, considering the wild magnitude of the geopolitical factor now).
Also, you’re looking at what seems to be NG1 = Henry Hub August2022 contract, which is North American, largely isolated from the European representative futures, TTF, and also basically for the immediate future vs the winter.
The units on the graph you have should be USD/MMBtu by the way, vs Euros/MWh for the TTF.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 16 2022 0:36 utc | 224

Posted by: Roger | Jul 15 2022 22:39 utc | 200
> He says that he has two conflicting very reliable sources – one says that the Russians are in Siversk, the other says that the Russians are on the eastern outskirts of Siversk.
Well, then it not not Siversk any more. From now on, it is Seversk again.
The spelling “Siversk” was Ukrainian attempt to “Ukrainify” the Russian name Seversk, which comes from “sever”, the Russian word for north. Ukrainian word for north is totally different: ‘pivnich’.

Posted by: hopehely | Jul 16 2022 0:41 utc | 225

Scorpion, the top link I gave is the crowd. Helsinki Commission.
I had a look on their Russia page https://www.csce.gov/country/russian-federation
I thought they had a map up of the planned breakup of the Russian federation. If so it is no longer there.
This one on twitter looks something like it. https://twitter.com/ZaZdzislaw/status/1546548969156780032

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 0:41 utc | 226

@220 I did find this Peter. It shows what Russia will look like when the think-tanks get done with it…
https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/en/nova-strategija-na-sad-podelba-na-rusija-i-dekolonizacija-na-nekolku-pokraini/

Posted by: dh | Jul 16 2022 0:42 utc | 227

Thanks dh. The map in of your link looks close to or is what I remember with the regions named like that. Appears to be the breakup as the one I found on twitter.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 0:56 utc | 228

@229 Hard to believe anybody takes it seriously outside of omnipotent Western think tanks. Gives them something to do I guess.

Posted by: dh | Jul 16 2022 0:59 utc | 229

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 21:14 utc | 176
I’m with you on this subject, Scorpion, but I’ve been skipping these comments as OT on a very important report here by b – do return to the subject on the next open thread not Ukraine, as also those discussing climate change – please.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 16 2022 1:07 utc | 230

Those fools sit around dreaming about the breakup of the Russian Federation and unnoticed by them, the decolonization of Europe has begun. By the time Putin is finished I doubt either NATO or the EU will exist as entities.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 1:08 utc | 231

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 15 2022 18:39 utc | 104
And quite the coincidence that Finland was also accepted as a new NATO member (wink, wink)… Showing the spirit of corporate grabs gets you into the club!

Posted by: Seer | Jul 16 2022 1:08 utc | 232

KAHN!!!!

Posted by: The Toad Prophet | Jul 16 2022 1:11 utc | 233

oops too much whiskey again I meant to say KHAN!!!

Posted by: The Toad Prophet | Jul 16 2022 1:13 utc | 234

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 15 2022 21:25 utc | 183
Thanks for your thoughtful response, oldhippie, and my apologies for going astray here. I was at fault going OT — it’s awfully easy and there are so many interesting subjects – farming, the media, etc. But the issue is really not so much how ordinary folk are responding to false news as it is the ones broadcasting such. I keep wondering about the mental health of those who do so on mainstream US news stations – it has to be very like what happens to those operating drones that kill.
We know that there are dedicated journalists, because we see that such are often deliberately attacked, imprisoned, killed. They stand out like points of light in a very dark world.
Thanks to b for continuing to call mainstream media to account. As you say, it has been going on for a long time. This is when it is becoming a critical issue. And as I said earlier, it doesn’t have to be this way. Easy for me to say, but it is true.

Posted by: juliania | Jul 16 2022 1:27 utc | 235

https://t.me/theRightPeople1/5020
caught this subway action from james Vasquez. after picking on the wrong commuter gets beaten up and bloodied . was fun to watch him mouthing off , like the true nazi that hangs with tornado battalion couldnt even fist fight a real man

Posted by: hankster | Jul 16 2022 1:28 utc | 236

Those fools sit around dreaming about the breakup of the Russian Federation and unnoticed by them, the decolonization of Europe has begun. By the time Putin is finished I doubt either NATO or the EU will exist as entities.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 1:08 utc | 232
Thanks for your replies and great ending.
Do you think, though, that they still think it might happen and so they are playing for time in the hope that RF will soon be buckling? I find that hard to believe…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 16 2022 1:39 utc | 237

KAHN!!!! KHAN!!!
Posted by: The Toad Prophet | Jul 16 2022 1:11 utc | 234
Posted by: The Toad Prophet | Jul 16 2022 1:13 utc | 235
Hired gun, Kahn! Khan!? who replaced the apostate prosecutor WHATSHERNAME.

“The simple truth is that, as we speak, children, women and men, the young and the old, are living in terror,” ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan said as he opened the Ukraine Accountability Conference in The Hague.
Khan said Thursday’s ministerial meeting addressed “a need of coordination, of coherence” and “the need of an overarching strategy” as different nations and courts work to investigate and prosecute crimes. The AP and Frontline, which are tracking incidents in Ukraine, have so far tallied 338 potential war crimes.

ALL CAPS

“With each day, the war crimes mount. Rape, torture, extrajudicial executions, disappearances, forced deportations. Attacks on schools, hospitals, playgrounds, apartment buildings, grain silos, water and gas facilities,” Zeya said. “These are not the acts of rogue units — they fit a clear pattern across every part of Ukraine touched by Russia’s forces.”
About 40 nations from the European Union and around the world [MAP] sent representatives to The Hague for the conference hosted by Khan, Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs Wopke Hoekstra and the European Union’s justice commissioner, Didier Reynders.

Karim Khan elected to replace Fatou Bensouda as ICC prosecutor (2021)

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 16 2022 1:45 utc | 238

Posted by: hurgusburgus | Jul 15 2022 16:56 utc | 64

meat is too logistically intensive and requires refrigeration. You’ll have an easier time feeding large numbers of people by increasing vegetable production than kowtowing to a bunch of corporate farmers bent on their export profits.

Vegetables don’t require refrigeration?
Anyone hoeing a garden KNOWS that it’s not easy work. It’s a constant battle with weeds. Cattle/livestock don’t require hoeing (but there IS land management).
You can say that vegetables can support “large numbers” but that’s unqualified. Vegetables don’t really provide protein, in which case that has to come from somewhere.
Cattle/livestock don’t require air-conditioned space to grow in (as do a LOT of vegetables, especially in northern climates).
We’re omnivores for a reason. In the past natives in cold climates didn’t live off of vegetables.
Regarding refrigeration, lots of vegetables don’t do too well if not refrigerated.
Regarding livestock and land impact:
https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/reversing-desertification-with-livestock
And to all those who complain that the farmers are being heavily subsidized and only want more (I’m not one of them), stop and ask whether it could be because the price of food is insanely low. Food production is very sensitive and fluctuates dramatically; if you allow farmers to fail one year they might not be back for the next year: just like oil producers, it’s not a click-here-to-restart world.
Sorry to stray here, but food is a pretty important issue. And, there’s this talk about a food crisis which is claimed to be an outcropping of Russia’s incursion into Ukraine…

Posted by: Seer | Jul 16 2022 1:46 utc | 239

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 21:40 utc | 187
Regarding PCR’s comments, he’s clearly overly-emotional about all this. He doesn’t realize that Russia is taking the “high road.” People would laugh about Russia being on the “high road” when it has “invaded” a neighboring country, but the real point is is that it’s about NOT being that which you abhor. Sanctions and “turning off the gas/energy flows” is something that the US would do in a heartbeat. Russia can not claim to be “better” while doing the same. Russia will not, however, interfere with the West’s self-administered harms. One of the few beneficial things I learned in the military was that of: “Set the example.” I try to identify with this. I suspect that’s what Russia is doing as it shows the rest of the world what it means to abide by international laws. The world needs to stomp down hard on hypocrisy.

Posted by: Seer | Jul 16 2022 1:57 utc | 240

@238 “Do you think, though, that they still think it might happen…”
Of course they do. They are convinced that deep down Russians (and their various ‘colonies’) want to belong to the Western world. Isn’t that what everybody yearns for? They cannot see things any other way.

Posted by: dh | Jul 16 2022 2:03 utc | 241

Just wanted to point out a few things generally related to the war in Ukraine.
First – very related to the war in Ukraine, a lunch meeting today between USA’s Ravi Batra and Russia’s Dmitry Polyanskiy. What do the barflies think about this? Possible diplomatic pathway or much ado about nothing?
https://twitter.com/RaviBatra/status/1548030617136160768
“I🇺🇸had a no-holds barred candid working lunch w/ dear @Dpol_un
🇷🇺of the “why” for the #War🇺🇦, & “how to” end it w/ a “just peace.”#AmericanExceptionalism #JFK #CubanMissileCrisis, @POTUS-41 & #BorisYeltsin, #SaintPetersburg City
#PeterTheGreat & @KremlinRussia_E, & @ZelenskyyUa”
In the Not Ukraine thread, I posted a link to an interview about inflation with ultimate Anglo-insider, Canada’s John Manley. It’s from the morning of July 14. Given what’s happened since then, I strongly recommend watching it.
http://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/video/anticipation-of-inflation-makes-it-harder-for-the-boc-to-turn-things-around-former-finance-minister~2484450
Gossip from a reporter at Canada’s national newspaper, The Globe & Mail. Freeland is in a tight tight corner :
https://twitter.com/stevenchase/status/1547968873621622791
“Speculation at foreign affairs committee that Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland disagrees w/ Canada’s decision to repair Russian gas turbines for 2 years. Liberal MP Rob Oliphant disputes this, noting she has not resigned. “When you disagree with a cabinet decision … you resign.” “
And these are the kinds of events that Canada House in the UK is promoting. And they refer to Canada as a “most recognizable brand” with a red maple leaf emoji.
No princesses with vaginas allowed. That’d just be gross. And gauche.
https://twitter.com/CanadianUK/status/1546851912431058944

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jul 16 2022 2:04 utc | 242

Posted by: Seer | Jul 16 2022 1:57 utc | 241
It has seemed obvious to me for a long time that if you want to be any particular sort of person, worthy in some regard, then you have to behave accordingly, no faking, nothing to do with what anybody else thinks.
However, if you are one of the modern “we make out own reality” people, this is thought to not be so, and of course if you have everybody fooled, then you are good to go.
From a country that makes things we have transitioned to a country that sells things.
I would say PCR means well, but still believes too much of Ronnie Raygun’s bullshit about the city on the hill etc. So yeah, a bit too much poorly aimed emotion, and believes far too much of the propaganda narrative still. “The Death of a Salesman” was written after the war, in 1949, prescient.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 16 2022 2:19 utc | 243

Scorpion | Jul 16 2022 1:39 utc | 238
My thoughts are similar to dh’s 242. Those sort of people seem to live in a fantasy dreamland.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 2:23 utc | 244

Is Russia preparing to up the ante once the entire Donbass has been liberated? Has Russian industry been put on a war footing?
The Serbian president’s recent statement about ‘all hell breaking loose’, Putin saying ‘we haven’t started anything yet’, the changes in leadership around Roscosmos, industry war footing (if true) all suggest something is afoot.
It seems to me that the SMO is soon going to change to WAR. Is the West ready for real war, or will they submit to Russia’s peace proposal and security demands?

Posted by: The Bear | Jul 16 2022 2:32 utc | 245

I have an issue with climate change:
Once upon a not too distant time, buffaloes roamed the great plains of the United States, moving ad libitum
and feeding from the extensive grasslands.
Their natural enemies were the Indians that inhabited these lands and lived off these herds. But then, the US not worrying about the Hague and other justice institutions decided to starve the Indians by killing their food. So William F. Cody a.k.a. “Buffalo Bill” set up with his cohort of helpers to cull these magnificent animals that were decimated to quasi extinction.
I wonder if the World went through a mini ice age following this extermination.

Posted by: CarlD | Jul 16 2022 2:34 utc | 246

@Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 23:18 utc | 209
The West thought that they had snookered Russia with Ukraine and the sanctions but had completely miscalculated. They tried further escalations but they didn’t work as India, China and the rest of the world would not toe the West’s line – probably a big shock for them. Now I think that inertia has set in and the elites have don’t know how to extricate themselves and generally only know forward gear. More like a deer in the headlights but with an M16, so can either get out the way, just die, or take you down with them.
@Posted by: Smerch | Jul 16 2022 0:30 utc | 223
How dare you insult the best liberal capitalist democracy money can buy! Hobbes would be amused I think at the thought of a little grandma driving a huge SUV with an AR-15 in the back because she feels threatened by something she can’t quite put her finger on, she just knows that she should be frightened and f**k the pedestrians, cyclists and people in small cars.

Posted by: Roger | Jul 16 2022 2:35 utc | 247

The U.S. government claimed that Hiroshima was a military target.
Posted by: Lysias | Jul 15 2022 21:20 utc | 179
HQ of the Imperial Japanese Navy, with appropriate harbor, although admittedly Navy, harbor and HQ were pretty beaten down by then.

Posted by: John Kennard | Jul 16 2022 2:39 utc | 248

Posted by: The Bear | Jul 16 2022 2:32 utc | 246
> The Serbian president’s recent statement about ‘all hell breaking loose’,
He actually said ‘odosmo svi u pakao’ which is ‘we are all gone to hell’

Posted by: hopehely | Jul 16 2022 2:50 utc | 249

@165 Scorpion
I think that, yes, this SMO is exposing the west. Absolutely. Do I think the good guys will emerge victorious in the end?
No. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think it CAN’T happen.
Russia is giving back to the west through this SMO its authentic questioning power as to what is the west, what is its mission, what is its role in the world?
How is it going to accomplish this?
By merely pulling the rug out from under it, pointing down to the ground, and saying, “Look beneath you at the abyss. What will you do now?”
I would still call that an improvement.
So far, we have been asleep in the spider web of someone else’s mind. A golem in the service of those seeking to destroy the light of philosophy over all the world.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 16 2022 2:51 utc | 250

The Bear | Jul 16 2022 2:32 utc | 246
Martyanov has a post on the leadership changes.

But let’s recall who Yuri Borisov is–yes, he is one of the major driving forces behind modernization and rearmament of Russian Armed Forces which underwent fast and dramatic update which turned them into arguably best fighting force of today. Borisov’s role in this is huge, to put it mildly.
Borisov is appointed to Roscosmos post to INTRODUCE into full production some revolutionary space technologies of which we know only about nuclear tug Zevs, but what else? Expect some big news relatively soon. What can it be? I hate speculations, you know that, but the talk and rumors about Russia’s 6th generation fighter capable to transition from air to space flight and back are persistent. https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/07/about-borisovs-new-post.html

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 3:50 utc | 251

PCR does not care about Russia.
He simply wants it to be the instrument of vengeance to return USA to the country he wishes it to be

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jul 16 2022 3:53 utc | 252

Sarmat, S-500 and I think S-550 in full production and being deployed – Borisov transfered to head bringing other wunderwaffen into full production. Russian forces in Donbass in no hurry, sitting back hitting concentrations of Ukraine forces with missiles.
Liberation of Donetsk region timed to finish when a good amount of new strategic weapons systems have been deployed? By then, Europe will have or will be experiencing its first energy free Russian winter.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 4:04 utc | 253

Peter AU1 @ 252
Maybe something on the order of this…
Russia Building Laser System to Blind Enemy Satellites: Report

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 16 2022 4:07 utc | 254

@253 Paul
But that’s precisely what it is: an instrument of Spirit.
That PCR has a different idea on HOW to get there does not change the fact he has a fundamentally correct grasp on the situation at hand.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 16 2022 4:10 utc | 255

Monday, 10 July was a banner day in psychoville. Ukraine’s international law scholars may have discovered a war crime committed by ministers of Canada or Germany, possibly both.
UWC files legal action to stop return of The Turbine to Russia.

Today in the Federal Court of Canada, the Ukrainian World Congress has filed a notice of application for judicial review together with Daniel Bilak, a Canadian citizen, practicing lawyer, and current resident of Ukraine. The application states that the decision to grant the permit was not reasonable, transparent, or properly authorized.

I idly wonder, if not the Canadian government, who is properly authorized to regulate and dispense business permits? Are these folks expecting assent from Elizabeth II or intervention by the Governor General or wtf?

“Canada’s decision to break sanctions and send the Siemens’ turbine back to Russia is a grave mistake with dire consequences. This exemption to the sanctions regime against Russia is totally unacceptable. There are real alternatives to Germany’s gas needs, including buying [RUSSIAN GAS] through Ukraine’s pipeline. We cannot supply a terrorist state with the tools it needs to finance the killing of tens of thousands of innocent people. This is not just about a turbine or possible many turbines to support Russia’s energy exports Europe, this is about continuously succumbing to Russia’s blackmail [sic]. This could be Siemens’ moment.
[…]
The legal action taken by the UWC is meant to set the precedent that remaining Nordstream 1 turbines should not be serviced on Canadian soil and sanctions in place should not be waived. Instead, this application for judicial review should set the stage for all parties involved to find a solution which does not trade turbines for Ukrainian lives.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 16 2022 4:40 utc | 256

circumspect | Jul 16 2022 4:07 utc | 255
Thank for the link. A few months back, the deputy defense minister said Russia’s main R&D from that time on would be directed energy weapons.
Rogozin’s telegram channel https://t.me/s/rogozin_do
Kremlin telegram channel https://t.me/s/news_kremlin

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 5:03 utc | 257

Seer @ 240:
Your argument can go further. Food prices may be low b/c depending on the product, farmers are selling to one buyer (the corporate supermarket chain, let’s say) who sets its purchase price deliberately at a level that may barely cover the individual farmer’s production costs. As a result all farmers selling to that buyer over-produce their product in order to survive. The over-production can send prices down even more and farmers can face bankruptcy. No wonder some want subsidies!
This scenario (known as monopsony in classical economics jargon) has been typical of dairy farming in Australia and the US. I understand Canada uses a system of production quotas for farms. This system helps to stabilise prices and enables farmers to earn enough to cover their costs, invest in their farms and make a decent living.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 16 2022 5:18 utc | 258

Posted by: Jen | Jul 16 2022 5:18 utc | 259
Yes. Thank you.

Posted by: Seer | Jul 16 2022 5:27 utc | 259

@257 Justin has got himself in a mess with this turbine business. Breaking sanctions is totally unacceptable. It will be interesting to hear what Chrystia Freeland has to say.
“Conservatives on the committee also called for Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland to appear and alleged that the Liberals were trying to prevent her testimony because she might disagree with the export decision.”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ministers-testify-gas-turbines-1.6521900

Posted by: dh | Jul 16 2022 5:36 utc | 260

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Jul 15 2022 16:00 utc | 41
What exactly have Finland and Sweden have to do with the Kurdish situation?
What Kurdish situation and where?
Good Post Carlos.

Posted by: Lbanu | Jul 16 2022 5:44 utc | 261

Holy fuck me. Can we lay off the climate “debate” in dedicated threads? Let the tobacco fossil fuel industry shills merchants make their provocative posts responding to literally nobody in O/Ts.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 16 2022 5:48 utc | 262

Posted by: yenwoda | Jul 15 2022 16:05 utc | 45
Your ‘therefore’ is only understood by you.
Otherwise, it’s follow on is logically meaningless.
Experience can sense propagandists.

Posted by: Lbanu | Jul 16 2022 5:55 utc | 263

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 16 2022 2:51 utc | 251
So in a very hypothetical, very future scenario, what happens when the then equivalent of Russia swoops in to crush the then equivalent of your own philosophy/worldview which has been allowed to fester for way too many years in the country on its border? Say the pro-abortion anti-life American libs take techno-fascistic control over the USA and invade the liberty loving messianic christo-fascists who have used cryptocurrency to buy out Mexico’s gov’t or steal its lands?
Sorry I’m just trying to come up with analogues, failing and getting carried away. Back to the real world, are you saying you’ve sided with Russia/Putin over the nice Ukie ethno-nationalist neo-Nazis?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 16 2022 6:02 utc | 264

@CarlD | Jul 16 2022 2:34 utc | 247

I wonder if the World went through a mini ice age following this extermination.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 16 2022 6:34 utc | 265

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Jul 15 2022 16:00 utc
Thank you for your report from Portugal. I always wonder what do Portuguese think of Brazil? The Brazil government seems not to buy the propaganda, nor does the opposition.
Surely a government of 200 million fraternal people taking a different decision, ought to sow some doubts in the MSM view.

Posted by: Browser | Jul 16 2022 7:07 utc | 266

The NY Times should on report this:

About 24% of active duty service members experienced food insecurity at some point in 2020, according to a new Defense Department analysis of the problem in the military.

The new analysis comes from the survey of active duty members, fielded from Oct. 26, 2020, through Jan. 25, 2021, which asked questions related to their experience over the previous 12 months, using the standardized U.S. Department of Agriculture measure of food security.
That survey was fielded to a random, representative sampling of 125,000 active duty members. The response rate was 12%. It was fielded in the first year of the pandemic, and also before the current high levels of food inflation.
The analysis of the 2020 Status of Forces Survey of Active Duty Members showed:
76% of total active duty service members were food secure, and 24% had experienced food insecurity at some point in the preceding year of the survey. Food security as defined by USDA means access at all times to enough food for an active, healthful life for all household members.
14% reported experiencing low food security. That means reduced quality, variety or desirability of diet. There’s little or no indication of reduced food intake.
10% reported experiencing very low food security. That means there were multiple indications of disrupted eating patterns and reduced food intake.
. Junior enlisted members, who have typically less than four years of service, are at the highest risk of food insecurity.

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2022/07/15/heres-dods-plan-to-help-the-24-of-troops-experiencing-food-insecurity/

Posted by: too scents | Jul 16 2022 7:08 utc | 267

That PCR has a different idea on HOW to get there does not change the fact he has a fundamentally correct grasp on the situation at hand.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 16 2022 4:10 utc | 256
No actually he does not.
If you’ve been reading PCR for a while you could have noticed that he is always “advising ” Russia on what they should be doing like the good old American Exceptionalist that he is.
If PCR can’t see that Russia has a plan and he wishes they would do it his way, how can he possibly have a grasp of the situation? He is a talking head who prefers the usual shock and awe military tactic of his home country.
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Posted by: K | Jul 16 2022 7:17 utc | 268

The situation is about to get hotter: Mr. Shoigu just instructed liberation forces to increase the operational tempo in the Ukraine.
intelslava / 33233

Posted by: Michael | Jul 16 2022 7:30 utc | 269

Thanks to all who replied re PCR and what does the West want out of Ukraine. Many intelligent takes.
PCR is a complex conundrum. One thing which concerns him though that comes through loud and clear is that because RF is restrained the West’s puppet masters view this as weakness and thus will not respect any reasonable RF offer which will oblige RF to escalate and then we all fry because our side would rather destroy whole world than be humiliated.
As to what they want: I think they are insane sociopaths so trying to figure them out is bad for one’s mental health!
That notion that RF is leading by example is how I see their behavior for some time now though reading Seer’s post above helped clarify that; however still not quite able to trust that perception until see more. Which is fine though a little back-and-forth.
The deer in the headlight description rings true plus only having forward gear. And also Bear’s WAR is a distinct possibility.
Nemesis your take was deep and different as usual, thanks.
And then I keep falling back on my own gut instinct that, as usual we are being played by the elites who are still pushing for their Reset to set up which they need collapse / emergency powers. Everything happening makes sense from that pov as surreal as it is.
The West truly is in uncharted territory as the twenty first century’s first official pathocracy so contemplating it (or it’s media lies etc) is a surefire way to engender sudden onset cognitive dissonance!
And all the while lives are being thrown away in Donbass….

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 16 2022 7:41 utc | 270

@Screwdriver | Jul 15 2022 20:23 utc | 159
Cows turn grass into meat and no grain is required at all.
Hello, I live in France in the country and in a agricultural area famous for its production of beef and veal, most of my neighbours are farmers, meat producers, my surroundings are fields with mostly two functions : grazing and growing cereals for cow food. Most of the year, cows spend their days and nights grazing in the fields. In winter, they remain inside and are fed with different types of grains.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Jul 16 2022 7:47 utc | 271

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 15 2022 19:06 utc | 116
“Anyone wants to cull me, I will give a savagely inebriated response. I will fight to the end and go down drinking”.
I’m with you Peter. I have discovered a dastardly plot. First they went to starve us into submission: Bunnings has just doubled the price of sausages on a Saturday mornings.
Handymen of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your indigestion.

Posted by: Paul | Jul 16 2022 8:12 utc | 272

Seer | Jul 16 2022 1:57 utc | 241
“PCR doesn’t realize that Russia is taking the “high road.””
He doesn’t believe there actually is a high road. And as a consequence, that going for an option which isn’t there will lead to desaster. That’s my understanding.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jul 16 2022 8:29 utc | 273

@yenwoda | Jul 15 2022 16:58 utc | 65
“I wonder what was happening in the Mykolaiv university, a top-secret meeting of NATO super-spies perhaps? British nukes being handed over to a TDF unit?”
What was happening in the National University of Shipbuilding in Nikolaev?
The National Guard of Ukraine was located in the building.
(source: IntelSlava telegram /33125 July-15 7:07, an ex-spy from Ukraine that was against the 2014 coup)
What is the National Guard of Ukraine?
It’s that institution that officially received the Azov battalion in its ranks.
What is the Azov battalion?
A group of Nazis, with white-supremacist ideology, inspired by Stepan Bandera, the “hero” that helped Hitler in the Holocaust.
Just one of this kind of groups, like many others: Aidar, Kraken, C14, Right Sector, Svoboda, etc.
What have these groups been doing in Ukraine since 2014?
Killing Ukrainians that oppose the coup/dictatorship, killing Ukrainians that speak Russian, and killing TENS of THOUSANDS Ukrainians in the Donbass region.
And obviously also killing a few Ukrainians that are ethnic Russians (the Nazis only didn’t kill more, because most of thosr were in Crimea, and Crimea got its peaceful independence right in 2014 thanks to a quick and exemplar operation.
So, what did Russia achieved by trageting this “university”? Russia demilitarized and denazified Ukraine’s dictatorship a little bit more.
Thank you Russia! Thank you ZOV heroes!!
And thank you onlinebTRUTH fighters (MoonOfAlabama, IntelSlava, Scott Ritter, Julien Assange, Erwan Castel, Alina Lipp, France 24 that went to Lisichansk, and many other FREEDOM FIGHTERS) for letting us know.
We got the best vaccine: the vaccine against the Empire of Lies’ propaganda.

Posted by: Carlos Marques | Jul 16 2022 8:47 utc | 274

Why is Biden in Saudi Arabia? Could it be that Saudi Arabia wants to join BRICS? Biden does not want it to want it.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jul 16 2022 8:59 utc | 275

Carlos
Don’t wory what is going on in Mykolaiv.
Just now I read, RF is preparing to take it. And then Odessa.
That is stage 3.
Because nobody in Ukraine is able to understand in what position they are, they will loose access to Black Sea.
They could start to negotiate…
But no, western hijenas do not allow…
And never forget, first starter, when Putin eat his tie, was when nacis burned people there. And he was not able to help.

Posted by: preseren3 | Jul 16 2022 9:03 utc | 276

The fact that the US seems to be preparing for the worst in Ukraine does not mean the Russians will do something “bad”- they could just as well be made to look to be doing something “bad” as has been the story line consistently, i.e. the much anticipated false flag.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jul 16 2022 9:06 utc | 277

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 3:50 utc | 252

The rights of the inhabitants of liberated Ukraine will be protected in the same way as the rights of the inhabitants of Russia.
Yesterday, I had a very important meeting with Tatyana Nikolaevna Moskalkova, Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation.
It was very fruitful, and I hope that not only refugees from Ukraine, but also residents of the liberated territories will feel it very soon.

Yuri is from Sumy, so doing some useful work for his own Ukrainians, not running away to the enemy…to the US…like the pseudo expert from Baku, a former junior officer of KGB border troops…
By the way, Yuri Borisov is an army man, so Roskosmos is going to become more military, birds say. Also, Dmitry Rogozin most probably will be the head of administration of the liberated territories of former Ukraine, birds say…

Posted by: ostro | Jul 16 2022 9:17 utc | 278

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 3:50 utc | 252
That post was from Yuri Podolayaka…

The rights of the inhabitants of liberated Ukraine will be protected in the same way as the rights of the inhabitants of Russia.
Yesterday, I had a very important meeting with Tatyana Nikolaevna Moskalkova, Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation.
It was very fruitful, and I hope that not only refugees from Ukraine, but also residents of the liberated territories will feel it very soon.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 16 2022 9:19 utc | 279

Just to notice Ukraine (and close regions) have some of the best agricultural soils in the world.
Reports says farming season went on only in russian controled territories as in ukrainian land they don’t have enought fuel. (What remains is used for military, I guess.)
I just looked into:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernozem

Previously, there was a black market for the soil in Ukraine, where it is known as chornozem (Ukrainian: чорно́зем, romanized: chornózem). The sale of agricultural land has been illegal in Ukraine since 1992 until the ban was lifted in 2020, but the soil, transported by truck, was able to be sold and bought. According to Kharkiv-based “Green Front” NGO, the black market for illegally acquired chernozem in Ukraine was projected to reach approximately US$900 million per year in 2011.

I tought it was unbelievable but wikipedia mentions it.
In Sri Lanka they baned fertilisers what resulted in popular uprising. I guess food prices will be next issue like oil and gas with possible turmoils in weaker countries.
Alsou EU buerocrats pays to cut down a meadows at least once in a year. Then the bundles of grass lies on the fields for years. Maybe this keeps employment in countryside but I don’t think it’s ecological or green. Bush owergrown non-used land would be a carbon sink.
CO2 acts as major fertiliser. Satelite maps show that the whole Earth had become mutch greener exept in few regions. I just don’t have a links, and I don’t want to search now. Also with increased CO2 plants use less water, as part of the water is wasted to accuire CO2. This is interesting major issue. But few crops (C3) benefit more.

Posted by: Alef | Jul 16 2022 9:24 utc | 280

Sushi | Jul 15 2022 22:45 utc | 201, Flying Dutchman, | Jul 15 2022 22:57 utc | 204
This may be Bingo! The Duran’s Alex Christoforou, during his July 6 walkabout in Athens, wondered aloud if what had really been going on in Donbass prior to the SMO was land grabs — attempted land grabs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6TN1SvEKw
The article linked by Flying Dutchman gives credence to the idea. Here again is the link he provided:
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/16/corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch/
Thanks very much for that.
And I think one of the commenters in this thread mentioned or speculated about a connection between land grabs in Europe and the push to eliminate grazing land for cows/push farmers off their farms, or words to that effect.
That raises the question of just how much current “environmentalism” is actually “land grabs” spelled backwards, which seems to be the name of the game in this era. Massive land grabs have been going on in Africa for more than a decade, and in many other parts of the world — or should I saw “ALL” parts of the world.
One could even make out a case that driving the “West’s” war against Putin is the attempt to open up Russia to uh, “major foreign investment” or land grabs spelled backwards.
To return to Ukraine, wouldn’t it be a riot if the entire mess was really fueled not by Ukranian extremist nationalism/Russia hatred but by foreign interests trying to get their hands on Donbass land?
In any case, that might be part of it.

Posted by: Pundita | Jul 16 2022 9:35 utc | 281

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8OThV4LSPa1j/
gaood video showing ukraine air defense unable to touch a kh55 missile

Posted by: hankster | Jul 16 2022 9:36 utc | 282

Peskov hinted that Dmitry Rogozin will be appointed to a useful position. As always, Kremlin doesn’t open cards earlier. But the birds say…😃

Posted by: ostro | Jul 16 2022 9:37 utc | 283

Aaagh. I meant to type “Or should I say ALL parts of the world.” sigh. sleep would help.

Posted by: Pundita | Jul 16 2022 9:39 utc | 284

@Alef | Jul 16 2022 9:24 utc | 281

CO2 acts as major fertiliser. Satelite maps show that the whole Earth had become mutch greener exept in few regions. I just don’t have a links, and I don’t want to search now. Also with increased CO2 plants use less water, as part of the water is wasted to accuire CO2. This is interesting major issue. But few crops (C3) benefit more.

Indeed. Earth’s atmosphere is starved of CO2, that is why you can buy CO2 generators to put in glass greenhouses to increase growth. Increased atmospheric CO2 is a result of outgassing from the oceans when the sun increases the temperature (warm water holds less CO2 than cold water, much like a warm beer goes flat).

Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 16 2022 9:47 utc | 285

I don’t exactly know how this thread got “hijacked” into growing food and cows, maybe because of the serious food situation we are in and are seriously headed into because of the SMO in Ukraine. But there is a lot of disinformation about cows, grass and corn. Orgel probably said it most truthfully and accurately:
Posted by: Orgel | Jul 15 2022 23:10 utc | 207

As someone who grew up on a farm, i really get angry at this topic. When i was young (which was not long ago) our village in the mountainswas full of farms. Each had 10 or 20 or 30 cows at max. Nobody bought any fertilizer. All was just the biproduct of the farm itself. Everything was grown directly there. The cows would be transported to the mountain ranges where they would spent the summer and grass. No farmer would overuse its soil since they used it for centuries.

Quoting someone I know:

It takes about 10 pounds (or 10 kg) of corn to grow 1 pound (or 1 kg) of beef in the U.S. Why? Because cows are not designed by Mother Nature to digest starch. Cows are meant to graze on woody brushes (and grasses). Forcing them to eat corn, i.e., all that starch which make up 70% of the corn kernel, is animal cruelty and causes all sorts of problems including bloating and digestive diseases. Inefficient digestion equates to inefficient meat production.
Were that 10 pounds (or 10 kg) of corn be turned into alcohol first by fermentation, we would get alcohol as a fuel and about 3.3 pounds (or 3.3 kg) of mash—the leftover solids from the fermentation process, full of proteins, fats, nutrients, vitamins, etc. Feeding cows this mash, also called distillerʼs dried grains or DDG, actually produces 17% more meat 13% faster!
So instead of feeding cows 10 pounds (or 10 kg) of corn to only get 1 pound (or 1 kg) of beef, we could feed them the 3.3 pounds (or 3.3 kg) of the mash instead—after turning corn into alcohol fuel first—and still get 1.17 pounds (or 1.17 kg) of beef!
Less animal feed, more beef, and healthier cows. What a concept!
During Prohibition, the revenuers, i.e., the alcohol police enforcers, would go to the county fairs to discover who the “moonshiners” are, i.e., those farmers illegally making alcohol by the light of the moon. How? They would look for the fattest cows and fattest pigs, because those farmers were feeding their prized animals with the leftover mash they got from their illegal moonshine stills. Thatʼs how! Talk about a historical precedence.

In Argentina, well at least in the Patagonia region, all cows are grass fed and they are probably the best tasting and most healthy cows in the world, at least better than the GMO-corn feed cows in the USA.

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jul 16 2022 9:48 utc | 286

To close topic about CO2.
CO2 is not a problem.
Emmiting of energy in our envirnoment is a problem!
We, humans and all animals, vegetatin, are living in a bubble.
Buble, which is 10km thick, breathing concentration, and we are forced filling this bubble with energy!
Cooling. All energy sources, like refinery, cars, nuclear plants, coal driven energy plants, air conditioners, name it, we are pumping in this bubble!
I hope you know, what entropy means… Energy is not wanishing! It is just distributed! All over the world!
You remind yourself, when Iraqi army withdrawed from Kuwait? They set on fire 600 oil wells! Which were burning for years!
Where do you think, this energy went?
It is still here. In the bubble….
So, some talking here about CO2 makes me think, people still fall on Gretchen. You know, Thunberg… Her fanclub.
For me, 90% of scientists, which find place in MSM, are whores. Prostitutes, which are selling to any MSM what they need.
So, start thinking what this war is causing! From reason of political stupidity!

Posted by: preseren3 | Jul 16 2022 9:49 utc | 287

re remarks by Alef @ 281:
YIKES! I really must start getting sleep. Until I saw your comment I had completely forgotten that I had posted on the Ukraine land grab issue back in May 22, and linked at that time to a March SouthFront report
https://southfront.org/zelensky-administration-prepares-to-sale-ukrainian-land-to-transnational-corporations/
But my post was specifically about the country’s incredibly rich “black soil” and the scandal that had erupted about its sale.
Not to promote my blog, which is pretty much defunct, I pay it so little attention these days, but if you are interested in learning more about this black soil business and the Zelensky regime’s machinations regarding its sale, here is my post, which pretty much copies from another post, and which includes photos of the precious soil. So this is a Soil Grab. If they can’t get the land, they want the soil. sigh.
https://pundita.blogspot.com/2022/05/can-russias-invasion-save-ukraines.html

Posted by: Pundita | Jul 16 2022 10:06 utc | 288

What can I say anon2020? Great minds think alike!!
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 15 2022 21:22 utc | 181

Now you’re just being silly, but I’ll take it as a complement anyway, so thank you, and thanks for your ongoing contribution, obviously =)

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 16 2022 10:09 utc | 289

#98
Absolutely right. Soy has phytoestrogens ie female – hormone producers. Not a good thing for male teenagers or middle- aged men to be taking unless they want to start looking lady -like and have less libido.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jul 16 2022 10:11 utc | 290

An interesting post about the Isklander-m on Russian MoD telegram.

The rocket men are assigned the task of destroying critical objects of the enemy’s military infrastructure with pinpoint strikes.
Iskander-M is designed to destroy multiple launch rocket systems, anti-missile and air defense systems, aircraft and helicopters at enemy airfields, command posts and infrastructure facilities.
During a special military operation, combat crews act clearly and smoothly. ⏳ Launchers leave shelters at maximum speed, take up launch positions, practice launches at targets, and immediately change positions.
The OTRK arsenal includes both ballistic and cruise missiles , which cause false electronic interference on the approach to the target and are practically invulnerable to enemy air defense systems. A cruise missile can go at ultra-low altitudes and go around the terrain, it is impossible to detect it.

Shortly after reading that, I ran onto a recent video of what looks to be a cruise defeating air defense. The air defense missile is well of course and detonates before the cruise missile comes through. Amazing to watch.
https://t.me/sashakots/34394

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 10:26 utc | 291

Liz Truss, aspiring PM and bs artist – you be the judge:
https://news.sky.com/video/liz-truss-refuses-to-criticise-saudi-arabias-human-rights-record-12641890

Posted by: Menz | Jul 16 2022 10:26 utc | 292

Large American companies went to great lengths not to miss their profits in the WW2 by supplying Hitler’s Germany. The Minister of Economics of the Third Reich, Hjalmar Schacht, announced in Nuremberg that the owners of the largest American corporations should sit next to him. Naturally, in the West, they prefer not to remember Lend-Lease for the Nazis.
* Oil supplies of 48 thousand tons per month from American Standard Oil to Germany did not stop until 1944, the June landing of the allies in Normandy. It’s funny that German planes on American fuel managed to bomb the Americans and the British themselves during the French campaign.
* The same Standard Oil supplied the OSI countries with synthetic rubber. And in 1943 it sold 25,000 tons of sulfate and 10,000 tons of cotton, used for the production of explosives. Moreover, sulfate was considered a strategic raw material in the United States.
* During the entire war, the Germans did not sink a single Standard Oil tanker.
* The American auto magnate Henry Ford in 1940 refused to produce aircraft engines for Britain, but his branch in France, even after the country was occupied by the Germans, continued to make engines for the Luftwaffe. A branch of the Ford concern in Algeria produced armored vehicles for Rommel’s army. The German branch of Ford produced 50,000 trucks for the Wehrmacht.
* The German company Opel, which during the war produced armored vehicles and engines for the Junkers, de facto belonged to General Motors.
* American companies exploited a loophole in US law that allowed them to trade with enemies during the war, unless prohibited by the US Treasury. And with their level of lobbying, it did not forbid.
Author – sofageopolitics
Posted by: ostro | Jul 15 2022 21:38 utc | 186

Ostro, you got a quoteable source for this?

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jul 16 2022 10:35 utc | 293

Peter AU1,
Well worth a watch… on Arnaud Bertrand’s Twitter account (change twitter.com to nitter.net) and watch:
When such a consummate diplomat as John Lander, who’s been Australia’s ambassador to Iran and Deputy Ambassador to China, tells you he’s “reduced to despair” and feels like “a voice crying in the wilderness” you might want to listen to what he has to say…
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1523866811736870913

Posted by: Menz | Jul 16 2022 10:52 utc | 294

Posted by: Menz | Jul 16 2022 10:52 utc | 296
Now without being overly optimistic, the idiot who was pushing war with China, is no longer in government, although he is leader of the opposition. I think Penny Wong in Foreign affairs will be a little better – no so sure of Marles the defence minister.
I am keeping my finger crossed and hoping for sanity.

Posted by: watcher | Jul 16 2022 10:59 utc | 295

Flying Dutchman @ 98, Brother Ma @ 291:
Being from an Asian culture that uses a lot of soy, I will throw in my 2 cents’ worth by noting that Buddhist monks traditionally eat soy-based dishes to quell sexual desire.
Not sure where I found this info originally but apparently soy (in the form of tofu at least) is best eaten with meat for the full nutritional benefit. Hence the many dishes that feature soy and beef or pork, like the Chinese classic mapo doufu.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 16 2022 11:03 utc | 296

A start …
Trading With the Enemy: An Exposé of The Nazi-American Money-Plot 1933-1949″ by Charles Higham
https://libcom.org/article/how-allied-multinationals-supplied-nazi-germany-throughout-world-war-ii

Posted by: Oui | Jul 16 2022 11:15 utc | 297

Posted by: Jen | Jul 16 2022 11:03 utc | 29
Thank you Jen.I laughed, as I was actually going to mention Shaolin monks , and the Taoist disdain of men ruled by their sexual urges, as well. hahah.
Thank you for the tip. I do like Asian cuisine ,tofu and pork and will now eat the latter together. I also like way too much soy sauce, so should start to cut down myself.
Another reason Asian women have so much better skin at later ages was also supposedly due to the lifetime of eating soy and phytoestrogens etc.

Posted by: Brother Ma | Jul 16 2022 11:19 utc | 298

Menz | Jul 16 2022 10:52 utc | 296
It’s good to see there are a few voices speaking up about this idiocy of Australia getting involved in the US war against China.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 11:22 utc | 299

@Peter AU1 | Jul 16 2022 10:26 utc | 292

Remember when these unidentified decoy transponder sub-munitions were first found?
https://twitter.com/CAT_UXO/status/1502936791665491970

Posted by: too scents | Jul 16 2022 11:34 utc | 300