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July 2, 2022
Lysichansk Is Under Control Of The Russian Side

Lysichansk is now under control of the Russian side of the war.

This was reported by a Russian speaking journalist from the Lysichansk City Park (map) which is at the center of the city. There are a few locals around him who seem to be happy. There is no background noise of shooting or artillery fire or impacts in his report.

The Lugansk People’s Republic now has the entire territory of the Lugansk oblast under its control.

This comes only a week after the cauldron around Lysichansk began to close. Until a few hours ago there was still a chance to flee from Lysichansk but the only passable road was under Russian fire. It is not know yet how many made it out or how many gave up and were taken prisoners.

Some of those who retreated went to Siversk some 20 kilometer west of Lysichansk. That city will be the next bigger target in that campaign sector.

The speed of this operation was much faster than the one in Mariupol. That points to diminished capabilities and soldier motivation of the Ukrainian forces.

The now much shortened frontline frees up several battalion tactical groups on the Russian side which can now be refitted and rested to then move elsewhere.

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Empty city, empty sea beach, but beautiful Odessa today, https://youtu.be/esOo5LPxjoE

Posted by: ostro | Jul 3 2022 12:27 utc | 301

3rd July – Independence Day, Luhansk People’s Republic…or they can move it officially to 4th of July…

Posted by: ostro | Jul 3 2022 12:42 utc | 302

ostro@255 the island is moot now, both sides can destroy it. When it was somewhat strategic, it provided for Russia a temporary listening station to monitor activity along the coast after the sinking of the Moskov. The new satellites Russia launched will have replaced the strategic need for the island.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 3 2022 12:51 utc | 303

@268 — yep. He’s been a recurring visitor unfortunately. Wish he’d go away, but no such luck.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 3 2022 12:53 utc | 304

Peaceful Odessa, people, children…https://youtu.be/Rr7AIP2Kf2o
If the war walks in…

Posted by: ostro | Jul 3 2022 12:56 utc | 305

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 3 2022 10:06 utc
To me it seems they rather prefer it fried.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jul 3 2022 13:01 utc | 306

Putin has named the Demon: The Empire of Lies.
(Sorry, speculating about exorcism triggered some sort of dormant preacher reflex!!)
Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 6:23 utc | 226
Yes, the “Empire of Lies” may be adequate to describe the “evil” of the western menace to humanity. I prefer the “exploiters of human labour” but to each his own. However, religion offers us nothing in terms of identifying our Devils, except to further expose the demons who historically have always propped up the Empire of Liars.

Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jul 3 2022 13:02 utc | 307

Btw I noticed lately, that we seeing a lot less video and pix of nazi tatoo decorated Ukrops.
Is there a suddent shortage of that?

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jul 3 2022 13:05 utc | 308

What I do wonder about is why the trolls here (no need to name them) are so simple minded, all of them. I mean, if they are paid for, shouldn’t they earn their money by being really subtle and devious, sowing ideas in our minds without us even understanding this is happening? But no, they are so obvious and so childish…or is that just a game to give free thinking people a false sense of security, complacency, underestimation of the enemy? Oops, is the stupidity of trolls making me paranoid now?

Posted by: Anthony | Jul 3 2022 13:07 utc | 309

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 3 2022 7:12 utc | 235
As far as I can tell, LDPR citizens are still Ukraine citizens. They might remain so and form the core of Ukraine’s next government.
The Ukraine’s friendly to Russia one. So fighting along Russia and DPR makes sense to LPR.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jul 3 2022 13:12 utc | 310

Lavrov is not flying around the world telling his counterparts that they must rally to Russia’s aid and defeat the Nazi empire. It’s USA and allies that are hyping the Nazis with their usual projection, like a child shouting “I know you are, but what am I?”
Lavrov is telling everyone that it’s time to break the US ‘unipolar’ empire; it’s time to cast off the oppressor and let everyone live their lives the way they want. And every time USA uses their puppets to break another treaty or weaponize ICAO or Lloyds Insurance, they’re playing into Lavrov’s hands and making his case for him.
Staying in the US-dominated unipolar world means everyone has to sacrifice their country’s prosperity and the lives of their people to US demands. And for what? The only advantage to staying in the US orbit is that if your country is run by sociopaths and thieves, USA will help them stay in power and plunder your country, so long as they stash their stolen loot in the US-controlled financial system.

Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 3 2022 13:15 utc | 311

@Vick And what qualifies you to judge others? Get off your high horse and contribute instead of the posting (20) only denigrating others.

Posted by: JR | Jul 3 2022 13:26 utc | 312

ostro | Jul 2 2022 20:20 utc | 78
Did the “obligatory” Aussie backpacker trek in the early 80s. Took a 6week Top Deck/ Contiki tour through Eastern Europe including Russia.
I was (as became a pattern or my through life) the “weirdo”, because I was the only one who’d read *anything* about Russia or the Soviet Union or any of the other countries (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia,) // [Austria + Finland]/.
Was pleased to have experienced (too briefly) countries when they were fully USSR.
To mark a Significant Anniversary we were intending a European river cruise with a side trip to at least St Petersburg + Moscow in 2019. For a basket of reasons it was decided to push the trip back to 2020….. but were defeated by covid. And again in 2021.
And 2022 still felt “uncertain” for international travel… seeing how restrictions and requirements can now change overnight. Not interested in being stuck somewhere or sent to quarantine. Wonder if the trip will ever be made now. I would very much like to visit modern Russia.
uncle tungsten | Jul 3 2022 0:30 utc | 170
“OMFG its Bolt-on again. “
Yep.
Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 3 2022 1:02 utc | 177
“Pompeo is definitely running, and he had the gastric bypass surgery to prove it.”
Yep.
Kamala Harris is there as Team Joe insurance policy. … preemptively remove Joe means installing HealsUp. That’d be a Nope.
Kadath | Jul 3 2022 4:18 utc | 199
Agree. There’s at least one, if not several more double-double double downs before The End…what ever that might be.
Richard Steven Hack | Jul 3 2022 4:37 utc | 200
Does the US have the balls to “boots on the ground” in Ukraine?
The Bolton cohort? Yes. All the CNN and blather about the incompetence of Russia… serves to prepare the ground for US entry.
At other sites there’s still a strong “Russia won’t / can’t do shit”.
The hubris that the US could destroy Russia in a day, based on what is portrayed as Russia’s dismal performance in taking the Donbas, is strong in the comment threads & blogosphere.
ak74 | Jul 3 2022 4:58 utc | 205
“American elections in particular and American “democracy” in general are worth less than dogshit on the bottom of your shoe.”
Yep.
Contrarian_Ed | Jul 3 2022 5:21 utc | 210
“In St Petersburg right now …” [much envy]
“Starbucks is gone, good coffee is still easy to get.”
Err. “Starbucks” and “good coffee” should never appear together in a sentence.:
>Why Did Starbucks Fail in Australia?”
https://www.marketingweekly.in/post/starbucks-fail-australia
Rob Campbell | Jul 3 2022 9:56 utc | 276
“…thanks karlofi for some valuable contributions.”
Yep.
Haassaan | Jul 3 2022 10:41 utc | 289
“…Don’t like Martynov? Great, whatever, don’t read him…
“Take every analyst with a grain of salt, Ritter, Lira, Martynov, Mr. Saker, General McWhatzhisface, B……they all have their strengths and weaknesses.”
Yep.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 3 2022 13:36 utc | 313

No one in the Russian-speaking world really cares, what those western “experts” say, or even what Biden or BoJo say
No one in the UK really cares, what those western “experts” say, or even what Biden or especially BoJo say

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jul 3 2022 14:00 utc | 314

The internal petty fighting here about who is this or that (pejorative) is a waste of time and screen space.
“No fighting in here gentlemen, this is a BORE room” ~ Joe Tzu

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 14:04 utc | 315

Can’t give enough praise to “Seventeen Moments of Spring!” Incredible television series! If Seventeen and Bondarchuk’s War and Peace don’t help provide insight into the Russian character, it’s tough to say what would?
Observing the effect of propaganda has been a disturbing and fascinating experience. Reading about the effects of propaganda in other times and places puts the reader above the fray, but living through it is another matter entirely. I have some degree of sympathy for those who have been seduced. But none at all for the seducers.
I haven’t travelled abroad to Russia, but I did meet the young person who started The Kiev Post, in the 90s. It began my interest in Ukraine. I know this person travelled to Ukraine to make his fortune, and he dealt with many criminal characters. For him at the time, it was an adventure. It didn’t seem a wise idea to me entirely, but. . .
Interestingly, the child of extremely liberal Americans. His father blogged about “hanging chads” for months on end. I found it curious that the child of “liberal” parents would participate in such “cultural imperialism.” But the more I’ve thought about it over the years, the more it makes sense.

Posted by: Geoff | Jul 3 2022 14:06 utc | 316

The British police are not preparing for Russian gas attacks, they are preparing for their own use of gas during periods of civil unrest.

Posted by: mi | Jul 3 2022 14:08 utc | 317

Opport Knocks | Jul 3 2022 14:04 utc | 319
“The internal petty fighting here about who is this or that (pejorative) is a waste of time and screen space.”
Alleluia.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 3 2022 14:14 utc | 318

Re: Posted by: Martina | Jul 3 2022 11:18 utc | 296

I don’t know if LPR militia is fighting in DPR. I think they were (and are) present in Kharkov.

I assume the LPR are present in Kharkov on the Eastern bank of the Siverskyi Donets River – all that territory is currently held by Russia/Russian-backed forces – presumably including LPR forces.
It is a minimalist assumption to make that none of the territory on the Eastern bank of the Siverskyi Donets River will be “given back”.
I am not personally certain that Russia will launch an all-out offensive on Kharkov. Is that really a city they want to give the Mariupol treatment to?
Perhaps they surround and demand surrender while they concentrate on taking more strategically important territory in the direction of Odessa.
Btw, looks like somehow my name was misspelt in #206 – it is Julian with an a, but that was I who posted with the name Julien. Just wanted to confirm. Also – not a yank.

Posted by: Julian | Jul 3 2022 14:17 utc | 319

Posted by: Skiffer | Jul 3 2022 11:22 utc | 297
Simply put: destroy the command posts and military units/equipment responsible and enhance the defence of this region.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jul 3 2022 14:50 utc | 320

@ ptb | Jul 2 2022 23:19 utc | 153

Depending on how badly worn down the VSU is (and also how much they’re willing to steal from the forces attached to the “main event” Slavyansk line for a forward defense), it might even be both Bakhmut and Seversk at once.

I was coming here to say just this. Brian Berletic has an excellent video up on his page that shows just why the “Bakhmut comes next” people are making that claim–and it seems to make sense to me. Roughly:
* Bakhmut is probably the most important transportation hub in the current arena of the SMO.
* Although it has some natural features that will make it a bit of a challenge to attack, Bakhmut is difficult to defend
* Bakhmut is an important industrial center
Here’s the video:
https://t.me/naturalizedasian/572

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jul 3 2022 14:51 utc | 321

@Pacifica Advocate …
No, don’t be mistaken, this IS a true liberation. The residents of Lysychansk have been through hell for 8 years, under the heel of neo-Nazi scum. They are genuinely happy to be finally free and treated like human beings again.

Posted by: rcentros | Jul 3 2022 14:56 utc | 322

Posted by: Vick | Jul 3 2022 14:06 utc | 320
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The Saker, that is, Andrei Raevsky was born in Zurich, and his surname comes from his mother’s surname. His father was Dutch, so he is half Russian ethnically, but he is a Swiss citizen, served in the Swiss army, had worked for the SND (Swiss Intelligence) and carries a rank of major. His living in the US is due to some personal matter with the Swiss govt. His connection to Russia is though his mother, whose family had left Russia a long time ago, most probably the Tsarist Russia.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 3 2022 14:56 utc | 323

Prophet Pompeo at the Hudson Institute was linked earlier.
If you thought you couldn’t stomach an hour of his preaching and poncing…
Fast forward to the Q/A AT 36:32.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVpRCfUaZG8
This is was fundamentalism fanaticism and exceptionalism look like.
And. He is for sure making a run in 2024.
He’s slim, sleek, slick and oh so slimy.
He scares me.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 3 2022 15:02 utc | 324

Posted by: Skiffer | Jul 3 2022 11:22 utc | 296
Nice summary & analysis.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 3 2022 15:50 utc | 325

Staying in the US-dominated unipolar world means everyone has to sacrifice their country’s prosperity and the lives of their people to US demands….
Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 3 2022 13:15 utc | 315
An astute observation. Recall (as EU Consilium is wont to preface legal text) however, you are attempting to communicate to a forum born on third who believe they hit a triple–in a so-called Great Game between two players (not even a team) that began in 1937 or 1939, depending on which player one “roots” for. That the “two” players are not even playing the same game would require a guided epiphany beyond the scope of the disjunctive communication format provided. (Thus, disqualifying specators not bound by the rationality of “zero-sum” alias first-past-the post alias winner-take-all) objective from credible contribution to … a theory of “geopolitical” equilibrium, instead of global apocalypse.
I note with interest–whether the thread head is UKRAINE or “OPEN” how infrequently–correspondents are willing or able to relate current, much less historical, “mulltipolar” events (team “plays”?) to purported strategies of either player. Take for example a conceptualization of reflexive RU “allies”; RU (immortal PUTIN) alone victorious on the UA battlefield automatically substantiates some EURASIA alternative to, ahem, white supremacy (ex “slav” culture), represented by econ, fin, religious [BWAH!], and territorial hegemony of POTUS du jour (“THE WEST”). Continuity is not well-understood by innerboob suppliants yearning to be free of “fascism” alias “totalitarianism alias “dictatorship alias “tyranny alias “plutocracy alias “corportacy alias “kleptocracy which they inhabit and to whose GNP they contribute “passive income”, anonymously. You detect the irony a parochial attitude toward the world cultivates ignorance of it and one’s part in the evolution, ahem, of “democratic processes”.
ICYMI, recalling just the last 12 mo. AG, KZ, PK , UZ civil distubance of the “rules-bases” order FKA “international norms FKA “international law” of “territorial integrity”: Uzbekistan president backtracks on constitution to defuse Karakalpakstan tension. Apparantly, the proximate cause is articles of, or “mechanisms” for, secession which, incidentally, neither “modern democracies” US, EU27, nor UA have ever provided.
ICYMI, Pakistan’s post-colonial political schism isn’t simply a domestic SNAFU. Dictorship of the proles (Khan) vs dictorship of th military (Sharif) opened a Khybur Pass for “The West” to sabotage “infrastructure development” financed by CN instead of IMF. It’s been brewing since 2008, although PK debt service to IMF started decades (1950) before CPEC build-out toward EaEU ports.
ICYMI,
Maryam blames Imran govt for lack of trust by IMF

Daughter of the ousted {PM] Nawaz Sharif said this while addressing a rally held to launch the by-election campaign of the PML-N candidate for PP-167

Imperial basket SDR-conversion rates
Following another thread subplot, one UID also expressed a interest in imperial Japan’s militancy, beginning only LOL The Sino-Japanese War as if the only, as if unrelated to RU conflict, much less rest of “modern” INDOPACOM, since post-Edo US, UK historiagraphy translated global trade dependency. “in the region”.
ICYMI this week,
Putin orders a huge [Sakhalin-2 ] oil and gas [SPIN-OFF];
Will [RIMPAC] exercises be part of Yoon, Kishida’s push to improve ties?
Then, there’s 55 nations of Africa and 33 nation of “Latin” America spanning AU, OIC, CELAC, C-TPP, APEC, and BRICS and rummaging for export growth …
Is it any wonder, I began repeatedly to post formal yet subaltern incorporation of nation states’ alliances on whom the “two” actually rely for ideological and material assistance, both real and imagined, to accomplish their goals–either “unipoloar” or “multipolar” cooperation?

Posted by: sln2002 | Jul 3 2022 16:03 utc | 326

What I do wonder about is why the trolls here (no need to name them) are so simple minded, all of them. I mean, if they are paid for, shouldn’t they earn their money by being really subtle and devious, sowing ideas in our minds without us even understanding this is happening? But no, they are so obvious and so childish…or is that just a game to give free thinking people a false sense of security, complacency, underestimation of the enemy? Oops, is the stupidity of trolls making me paranoid now?
Posted by: Anthony | Jul 3 2022 13:07 utc | 313

You’re right about the conspicuous trolls but wrong about the inconspicuous trolls, you’ve simply missed them.
Their strategy seems to be one of credible intervention: build up implicit credibility by contributing in apparent good faith to the ongoing discussions, then, when a particular subject comes up, or an opportunity for a relevant interjection, they switch to sponsored content.
This strategy can only hope to be successful as a relatively superficial level of discourse.

Posted by: anon2020 | Jul 3 2022 16:04 utc | 327

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 3 2022 15:02 utc | 330
Yes, I see a few other “dark horses” too, I think 2024 is going to be a busy election, existential. Nobody can afford to lose. The new Pompeo is a bit unreal. Perhaps we will get Trump and Pompeo duking it out, or a Trump/Pompeo ticket. Nah, I don’t see them getting along. Chaos looms.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 3 2022 16:39 utc | 328

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 22:58 utc | 144
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You got any 3-letter word US agency connections? 😏
Posted by: ostro | Jul 3 2022 7:42 utc | 242
What will that mean if the answer is ‘yes!’?
And
What will that mean if the answer is ‘no!’?
“One step, two step, three step, four
You guard the nukes whilst I bar the door.”
Grandpa Biden Bed Time Doggerel.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 16:55 utc | 329

@ Scorpion
Thank you for your posts. they always help me. Keep posting.
Posted by: migueljose | Jul 3 2022 11:54 utc | 303
Thank you for the kind words but am just reflecting the fruit of many fine posts made here by many far wiser…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 16:58 utc | 330

Posted by: Beibdnn | Jul 3 2022 8:04 utc | 252
“I really do. despair at the utter imbecility of these green fools.”
All political explanations and the politicians or NGO’s making them:
lies told by liars.
Ergo:
Managed collapse…..

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 17:04 utc | 331

The provocation with the Kaliningrad transit has failed-the European Commission will allow deliveries through Lithuania in the same volumes-writes German Der Spiegel‼️
Also, starting my Russian language lessons today. Wish me luck.

Posted by: caption | Jul 3 2022 17:35 utc | 332

In response to: mi | Jul 3 2022 14:08 utc | 322
That is possible.
My information came from a neighbour who’s grandson is in the police. I have no way of verifying it.

Posted by: Ranelagh | Jul 3 2022 17:51 utc | 333

Prussian Blitz
Heinz Guderian – master of the Blitzkrieg and father of modern tank warfare – commanded the German XIX Army Corps as it rampaged across Poland in 1939.
Personally leading the devastating attack which traversed the Ardennes Forest and broke through French lines, he was at the forefront of the race to the Channel coast. Only Hitler’s personal command to halt prevented Guderian’s tanks and troops turning Dunkirk into an English  bloodbath. And as typical of the English cowards they fled tha battle field as soon as possible-hitler gave them 3 full days !  All because  vile coward liar  Churchill promised something to hitler only token resistance to  his ultimate aim-to destroy russia and (thus from brutish  point of view germans too.).
Hitler’s Generals surrounded 300K Brits at Dunkirk, and were ready to finish the job, when Hitler stopped them, saying, ‘we are not in the killing business !’
The Brits crow about Dunkirk which was a deliberate gift by hiler to Brutish, as if it was an heroic act when it was a case of coward English fleeing from the enemy after getting permission to flee from same enemy.
It was nothing like “battle of River Berezina” that Napoleon the Great had to endure in November 1812 against Russian counter onslaughts.
It was better to destroy that English nation and give relief to the human kind
Second and first world wars were organised by English scu_bags to let Germany fight the Russians –the English are too coward a race to fight anyone on their own. They  need proxy-nazis, wahabi terrorists from Saudi Arabia, muzzahadiin etc.
.
http://in.rbth.com/articles/2012/02/20/singapore_the_battle_that_changed_asia_14901.html
The capitulation of more than 100,000 British empire troops before a Japanese army a fourth of that size.

Posted by: Soi | Jul 3 2022 18:41 utc | 334

Surprise, surprise the UK media now confirming this story, maybe they’ve realised the inevitable.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2022 18:41 utc | 335

@ Anon2020, 334
Goal! But then, even the “inconspicuous” ones end up in silliness! Well, if the CIA, M16 or whoever funds them wants to throw their money away on this…
The Saker considers the conflict in Ukraine an existential battle between two cultures that are so radically different, that, in fact, they can not both remain on earth but must destroy the other one or meet destruction themselves. He has a point I think and if that is the battle to develop, then my guess is the most intelligent side will win. Well, one side sure has a president Biden, a Pompeo and these trolls…

Posted by: Anthony | Jul 3 2022 19:33 utc | 336

Rae @203–
Thanks for your thanks! Your reply is why I do what I do.
Ak74 @205–
Good to see someone else has discovered William Appleman Williams. His studies of the American Empire formed the basis for my own enquiries. I first read his books in library then bought them used so I could properly annotate them for reference. IMO, he self-censored somewhat, which is why I want to examine his personal papers at Oregon State University in Corvallis, only 90 minutes away from my home.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 3 2022 19:35 utc | 337

ostro @272–
Actually, almost all the countries in the Global South can ever trust the US or EU to keep their words.
Reality: No nation can trust the Outlaw US Empire, nor can any of those living within its borders. The only interests it pursues are those of the Neoliberal Parasites in control of the government, Wall Street and MIC, and to hell with anyone else, anywhere else.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 3 2022 19:46 utc | 338

Rob Campbell @277–
Thanks for your thanks, too!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 3 2022 19:52 utc | 339

Talking about swastica – one of the most sacred symbols of Aryans as shown in all Hindu invitation cards of the wedding, I can add this based on genetic haplogroup of y gene where R1a Shows so called aryan spread.
NOT Caucasian by the criteria of the scientist who first used the
Word “Caucasian”.  He specifically excluded the english race
Anglo americans from the Caucasian race.
https://www.google.com/search?q=r1a1&oq=r1a1&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j69i65j69i60j0l2.7072j1j4&client=ms-android-h3g-gb-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=Bx_ZlacPRt0-WM:
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroep_R1a1_(Y-DNA)
English and  by extension anglosaxon are neither Europeans nor indo europeans.
They have zero gene of R1a1 which is a marker of indo european otherwise called aryan race. .
In fact English race or anglosaxon are derived from misgeneasis between Neanderthals and Phonecians living in Bog land (  Swamp)  of Northern Holland.
This needs be said  because English are the most racist disease on the face of earth and they have been waging war on all non Anglo races one by one-it their
Race  war by English on other Races of the  humanity.
The they have also grabbed the biggest land mass of earth in Australia Canada and USA as illegals.
So the world needs to be prepared to
  confront  that evil.

Posted by: Soi | Jul 3 2022 22:19 utc | 340

>>ostro @272–
Actually, almost all the countries in the Global South can ever trust the US or EU to keep their words.<<< The only time a country can trust another country is when you have maintain some leverage. The west....well specially the USA's way is the get a country on the USA mega sh!+ ton money teat. But they are not doing this because they are intrinsically the good guys despite the majority off Americans thinking this. The USA...well specifically the small group of powerful will expect payback plus a hell a lot of interest. The human condition is as such that wealth is never given up. It is only given out under the assumption you'll make it back plus a lot more. The average American has the absurd belief their way is the good guy way. For example they hear Russia is sanctioned from getting western goods. The average American then thinks that Russia must be in deep trouble without having western 'stuff'. They can't possibly have a good life. I'm not kidding, the majority of Americans think this. But it is also important to know this too, that there are tens of millions of Americans who don't believe this. You just won't hear their opinions expressed on national media.

Posted by: Corsiar66 | Jul 4 2022 1:29 utc | 341

@ rcentros | Jul 3 2022 14:56 utc | 328

@Pacifica Advocate …
No, don’t be mistaken, this IS a true liberation. The residents of Lysychansk have been through hell for 8 years, under the heel of neo-Nazi scum. They are genuinely happy to be finally free and treated like human beings again.

I don’t dispute that at all.
That doesn’t change the fact that, having been through hell these last 8 years, there’s going to be a rather long period of healing and–because of the Ukronazis’ war crimes–rebuilding. The struggle will continue for some time, but yes: these people have been rescued from their tormentors.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jul 4 2022 3:03 utc | 342