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July 2, 2022
Lysichansk Is Under Control Of The Russian Side

Lysichansk is now under control of the Russian side of the war.

This was reported by a Russian speaking journalist from the Lysichansk City Park (map) which is at the center of the city. There are a few locals around him who seem to be happy. There is no background noise of shooting or artillery fire or impacts in his report.

The Lugansk People’s Republic now has the entire territory of the Lugansk oblast under its control.

This comes only a week after the cauldron around Lysichansk began to close. Until a few hours ago there was still a chance to flee from Lysichansk but the only passable road was under Russian fire. It is not know yet how many made it out or how many gave up and were taken prisoners.

Some of those who retreated went to Siversk some 20 kilometer west of Lysichansk. That city will be the next bigger target in that campaign sector.

The speed of this operation was much faster than the one in Mariupol. That points to diminished capabilities and soldier motivation of the Ukrainian forces.

The now much shortened frontline frees up several battalion tactical groups on the Russian side which can now be refitted and rested to then move elsewhere.

Comments

Posted by: Nervous German | Jul 2 2022 21:10 utc | 99
I need to correct myself: Uniper is not broke yet, but calling for a public bailout.

Posted by: Nervous German | Jul 2 2022 21:17 utc | 101

Went to Vladivostok in college as a side leg on a trip to Japan, paid for by my state university in a kind of exchange program with the university there. Wish I’d been able to ride the Trans Siberian Express to Moscow, and now it’s looking like that will never happen. Closest I’ve ever been on the western side is Hungary, Slovakia and Chechia in 2016.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 2 2022 21:21 utc | 102

There are reports in comments here and other alt-media sites that the EU/Lithuania backed down on the issue of sanctioned goods going to Kaliningrad by rail. I have not seen anything outside of that.
Has anyone been able to confirm?

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 2 2022 21:26 utc | 103

Sorry, meant Czechia.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 2 2022 21:26 utc | 104

@ Nervous German | Jul 2 2022 21:10 utc | 99
on gas
What to expect?
Economy Minister Robert Habeck laid it out a week ago — a possible complete collapse of the energy market and perhaps the whole economy — the “Lehman affect.”

Germany warned that Russia’s moves to slash Europe’s natural gas supplies risked sparking a collapse in energy markets, drawing a parallel to the role of Lehman Brothers in triggering the financial crisis.
With energy suppliers piling up losses by being forced to cover volumes at high prices, there’s a danger of a spillover effect for local utilities and their customers, including consumers and businesses, Economy Minister Robert Habeck said Thursday after raising the country’s gas risk level to the second-highest “alarm” phase.
“If this minus gets so big that they can’t carry it anymore, the whole market is in danger of collapsing at some point,” Habeck said at a news conference in Berlin that was called at short notice. “So a Lehman effect in the energy system.”
Europe’s largest economy faces the unprecedented prospect of businesses and consumers running out of power. For months, Russian President Vladimir Putin has gradually reduced supplies in apparent retaliation over sanctions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine. The standoff escalated last week after steep cuts to the main gas link to Germany, putting reserves for the winter at risk.. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 21:26 utc | 105

John Bolton on Biden’s “Mistakes”:
“Biden has ‘made mistake after mistake’ in handling the crisis, the hawkish Republican and former US national security adviser says….
“The US leader had the means to prevent the Russian military operation, but ‘didn’t exercise them,’ he insisted. According to Bolton, Biden shouldn’t have announced publicly that American troops wouldn’t be sent to Ukraine to ‘leave the burden of ambiguity on Russia.’ The right thing to do for Biden was also to slap sanctions on Moscow before the start of the offensive, not after it had already begun, he added.”
IMO, Bolton’s as big a failure as Biden and really doesn’t have a different position. Here’s what Bolton thinks:

“Let’s not get too excited about the fact that Ukraine wasn’t overrun,” he urged, adding that “now we need to decide what our objectives are.”
According to Bolton, they should be “gaining again full territorial integrity and sovereignty for Ukraine.”

I’d like to know how Bolton expects to deliver that chimera, “full territorial integrity and sovereignty for Ukraine.” Does he have a fully armed, 500K man Army and Airforce with weapons that work in his hip pocket or can he purchase one somewhere–Amazon?
It’s now becoming very clear that NATO–meaning the Outlaw US Empire–had no clue what it had planned for Ukraine AND after. IF it was merely the big offensive by Ukie troops that was to start on March 1, then they didn’t do their homework very well if at all–particularly after what Russia said in December, that it viewed the situation as “existential.” Bolton clearly has no clue–sanctions beforehand would make a difference?!? Really?!? The army and air force Bolton had at hand for the destruction of Iraq has melted away and no longer exists in large part due to Bolton and his neocon allies, Obama and Clinton. Russia and China are now in charge. So, the best thing NATO members can do is to drop both NATO and EU then rejoin the rest of humanity and play the Win-Win game.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 21:28 utc | 106

@Nervous German
From what I can tell from a distance, the detailed public statistics of natgas storage via agsi.gie.eu, show a seasonally typical level of natgas storage in EU. Barring further stupidity (do they know something they are not telling?), ie if the situation is resolved with the Siemens compressors that Canada kidnapped, and also the situation with Lithuania of course…
But I’m thinking, will the immediate problem really be from prices? In the financial markets, the shock actually started to arrive in Dec 2021, but the contract arrangements for large buyers are typically 12 months or a little more ahead of time.
So in financial terms, the shock, which is clearly predicted by the natgas trading markets, will actually peak around the end of this year, Q4-2022, or more probably Q1-2023. Of course it is entirely approriate to start soiling the pants earlier than this, because in financial terms, there is no longer anything that can be done. A phase of ‘predatory capitalism’ is going to happen now – and it require government intervention / bailouts, which in turn require a tangible emergency to obtain the authority to do it.
However in terms of physical supply, things can be perfectly fine, if the EU authorities say the word. In fact, from what I can tell in the storage situation, there is for now more breathing room this year than there was last year.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 2 2022 21:33 utc | 107

The whole Ukraine thing turned into a war because the US insisted that, on NATO, every country should be pro-choice, when the policy should have been pro-life.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 21:34 utc | 108

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 21:28 utc | 106
Indeed. I don’t see how Bolton’s “strategery” differs at all from that allegedly approved by Biden. The sanctions regime was already ratcheted up to the point that the only remaining step was the EU’s puppet economic suicide strategy currently in place and the resulting (hopefully temporary) hardships to the Global South. Am I missing something? Bolton is an idiot, much like most of our government, having failed upward his entire career.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 2 2022 21:37 utc | 109

Nervous German @99–
Worst is becoming worst–terminology related to nuclear escalation but appropriate IMO. How many people live in Germany and how many back Scholtz’s lunacy?
Don Bacon @105–
Thanks for that bit of Time reportage plus the requisite propaganda about it all being Putin’s fault. Germany has a solution sitting on its doorstep but refuses to open the door. IMO, the German public must demand that door be opened and the crisis solved.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 21:37 utc | 110

ostro @ 100
Western politicians, pundits and other ideologists on western media are indisputably trapped in their 80’s view of a Soviet Russia falling apart..
That thinking is deeply ingrained in everyone around me. Try to explain that is not the case anymore and you get the deer in the headlights look, their rational never changes.
karlof1 @ 97
The whole price cap idea is ideally stupid in a system run by capital. The price is always moving.
Nervous German @ 99
The LNG terminal in Texas may partially restart in October. The failure of a PRV caused the vapor cloud. What caused over pressurization of the system is what needs to be established. Not being there I have a hunch that a faulty technician did something that inadvertently falsified the real pressure readings.
A PRV is a last line of defense and not a good one as you get the vapor cloud and explosion. It should vent to secondary containment but these types of systems are few and far between. It would require an extensive rework of the plant.
I can tell you the workloads on maintenance in these plants are enormous. The lack of quality professionals is also enormous. I do believe that this is behind the recent loss of so many food plants in the US as well.

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 2 2022 21:41 utc | 111

re: Opport Knocks @103,
No, Lithuania hasn’t back down yet. there are reports that Germany and France have pressured the EU to reword the sanctions legislation to specifically allow Russian access to Kaliningrad through Lithuania, but Lithuania has repeatedly vetoed the wording to get it reworked. “Supposedly”, the final version was to be released on Monday but this will probably drag on for quite a few days or even weeks. This is how the EU works now, Germany and France will leak reports to the press about what they are trying to do which gets back to the Russian in the hopes that this will show the Russians that Germany and France are working in “good faith” at a solution. Mountains of worthless paperwork and hot air are generated and the actual issues drag on for days, weeks, months or years without a solution.
Bottom line, is no there is no solution yet and my personal belief is that this issue will drag on for a few more weeks at least. However, the Russians probably don’t expect an immediate solutions either so I dont see this as a major crisis yet.

Posted by: Kadath | Jul 2 2022 21:41 utc | 112

Does he have a fully armed, 500K man Army and Airforce with weapons that work in his hip pocket or can he purchase one somewhere–Amazon?
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 21:28 utc | 106

Biden will send more troops to Germany and Poland to build a European fortress, to “protect us” against “Kremlin gangsta Putin”, according to Bild. According to that tabloid article:

  • Biden sends us two additional squadrons with modern F35 fighter jets to the UK.
  • Air defense forces are strengthened: 625 U.S. soldiers will be sent to Germany, further troops to Italy.
  • Before Spain, two additional U.S. destroyers will be stationed (currently four).
  • Poland gets a new HQ for the fifth U.S. corps.
  • Putin must be shivering. /s

    Posted by: Nervous German | Jul 2 2022 21:42 utc | 113

    What the West intended was to provoke Russia to attack, which would provide the excuse for sanctions, which they assumed would have devastating effects on Russia, and ideally end Putin’s rule.
    I wonder how many people told them it wouldn’t work.

    Posted by: Lysias | Jul 2 2022 21:44 utc | 114

    “ The whole Ukraine thing turned into a war because the US insisted that, on NATO, every country should be pro-choice, when the policy should have been pro-life.”
    Actual reason it turned into a shooting war: the US wants every country to be LGBTQ.

    Posted by: Dale | Jul 2 2022 21:45 utc | 115

    @ karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 21:37 utc | 111
    the requisite propaganda about it all being Putin’s fault
    Time: “President Vladimir Putin has gradually reduced supplies in apparent retaliation over sanctions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.”

    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 21:45 utc | 116


    [German economy minister Habeck:] “So a Lehman effect in the energy system.”
    Europe’s largest economy faces the unprecedented prospect of businesses and consumers running out of power.

    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 21:26 utc | 105

    Yeah, they see very well what’s coming.
    But as Gonzalo Lira put it in a similar context about “power elite” thinking: instead of correcting course, they’ll double down. More of the wrong medicine will eventually help — not.

    Posted by: Nervous German | Jul 2 2022 21:46 utc | 117

    @karlof1 106
    Bolton is firmly ensconsed in the “sanctions” doctrine. So we know how relevant his opinion of any situation geoplolitically is to be taken.

    Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Jul 2 2022 21:47 utc | 118

    @Posted by: circumspect | Jul 2 2022 21:41 utc | 112
    If one of those anti-tank missiles that the West has covered Ukraine with (a hand-held Javelin has a range of up to 2.5 miles) finds itself through the black market to a US LNG installation it would be poetic justice. The economic fallout for all LNG operators may perhaps deal a physical reality check to Western policy makers, there are not many of these single points of failure spread around the globe. What about from a small boat against an LNG tanker at sea?
    US$20,000 tops to destroy 1$billion (LNG terminal plus tankers) or $200 of million (an LNG tanker) of kit, plus the massive security cost increases of all other operators. A huge return on terrorist investment, with a little bit of investigation of which part of the plant/tanker to hit.

    Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 21:52 utc | 119

    re: Roger | Jul 2 2022 20:32 utc | 88
    you wrote” The range of headlines available to the National Enquirer just keeps getting shorter every day!”
    That’s true, lol, but the headline I got the information from was Southfront

    Posted by: Perimetr | Jul 2 2022 21:53 utc | 120

    @Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 21:52 utc | 121
    I am in no way proposing such a thing, just pointing out the utter stupidity and blindness of the Western elites to blowback issues. It won’t just be Syria etc. that these black market weapons will be travelling to.

    Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 21:55 utc | 121

    The thing is resources are weapons, not just the USD as America thought so. Winter is round the corner, so natural gas storages in the Unfriendlies have filled at least to 80% capacity for the heating period. No one knows how long that period will be, after a very hot summer.
    The main task of Russia today is not to let European gas storages be filled and thereby keep EU consumers on a gas leash, forcing the EU to do what Moscow wants in the protracted conflict in Ukraine. For example, yesterday Italy was saying that Russia had cut the gas supply by 15%. Both lines of Nord Stream stop for annual maintenance works from 11th July to 21 July. Who knows, if the “maintenance” would have to continue, due to Western “sanctions”…some element/machinery becoming missing…

    Posted by: ostro | Jul 2 2022 21:57 utc | 122

    @Posted by: Perimetr | Jul 2 2022 21:53 utc | 122
    I stand corrected, those prisoners certainly look to have all limbs attached and eyes working!

    Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 21:59 utc | 123

    Lavrov’s school lesson to Belarusian students I linked to, excerpted and commented upon yesterday now has a partially complete English transcript that is about halfway through the lesson and lacks the Q&A part. Eventually, it will be complete.

    Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 21:59 utc | 124

    Re: Habeck calling for bailouts in Germany
    By the way this discussion with the public should be happening in every energy importer.
    If anything, Germany at a national level can at least afford to bail out whichever individual firms get knocked out, from the insane energy bills that are coming down the pipe. These are already baked in for the next 1.5 years I’m guessing. Each day until sanity returns, this period of time gets extended, too. Anyway, many other countries – much of EU, not to speak of the “third world” – can’t afford such bailouts, at leat not in an environment of global inflation and rising interest rates. What a f##king mess…

    Posted by: ptb | Jul 2 2022 22:00 utc | 125

    @ ostro | Jul 2 2022 21:57 utc | 124
    Winter is round the corner, so natural gas storages in the Unfriendlies have filled at least to 80% capacity for the heating period
    Time: “At the current rate of gas inflows, Germany would need 116 days to reach its target to fill 90% of storage capacity, which would mean it would take until mid-October to do so—a time of year that households would usually start consuming more gas for heating.”
    . . .116 days seems like a (short) eternity at a time when the gas risk level is at the second-highest “alarm” phase.

    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 22:12 utc | 126

    I could only watch about 10 minutes of the Mike Pompeo speech that was linked @ #31. It was a smoothly delivered, seamless series of lies coming one after the other. The burden of lie fatigue (from listening to him)was too exhausting and it was just one cumulative structure of distortion, so eerie and like an alternate reality. Mike seems to have had some kind of makeover and to my eye did not seem to be the same guy who was at CIA and State in Trump’s White House. He looked thinner and fitter and looked more like a made man, like a real actor moving up from central casting.

    Posted by: Copeland | Jul 2 2022 22:12 utc | 127

    More I think about it, I feel sure that the flow of all the gas pipelines to the west from Russia would be stopped or would have all kinds of machine problems in the coming months. Even though the Southern Europe have lesser heating problems, the factories, bakeries, food processing, dairies etc have to work. It’d be a headache without a full free flow of gas.

    Posted by: ostro | Jul 2 2022 22:13 utc | 128

    Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 2 2022 20:18 utc | 77
    On the contrary I believe Putin wants to settle this for once and all and is unwilling to take a chance on more western and Ukrainian treachery.

    Posted by: chazz | Jul 2 2022 22:15 utc | 129

    Have you noticed that suddenly the western MSM had stopped mentioning the “wheat embargo” or even Snake island?
    Posted by: ostro | Jul 2 2022 20:30 utc | 86
    Not in the US. Just today, at least two publications have been going on about how Russia abandoned a “critical” island base to the AFU, like Russia was running away with their tails between their legs. Leave it to the US MSM ogle about a rock with a 15-member attachment but ignore the defeat, collapse, and surrender of 7 to 8 thousand Ukraine troops in the Donbass region.

    Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jul 2 2022 22:16 utc | 130

    At 63: What do Barflys think Phase 3 will be ?
    Hmm, so we agree that phase 2 ends when Kramatorsk has been fallen (and Avdiivka? Maybe Avdiivka is phase 3).
    First idea is they will go for Karkov, as they dabble there already and it is not so far to the south east to Issium and Russia to the north and lot’s of Ukraine BTGs have been send to Donetsk area from there by now.
    On the other hand, maybe Russia/Putin follows the water model, and there are huge lands west of Kramatorsk up for the taking.
    Then that would be an ideal time for Ukraine to negotiate (end of phase 2), but then that time would be right now and all the way back to the 24th, if sanity was available.
    Smart would be to probe where Ukrainian forces are the weekest, again follow-the-water model.
    Anyway, my idea is Odessa will be last, as they have still unused BTGs (I guess) and Russia likely wants to keep this old city in the most undamaged condition. Finally surrounded with all the other cities fallen before, one would hope the Ukraine forces there would then give up without a fight – maybe with some time in a couldron, if it has to be.
    Anyway, enough useless speculation and best to keep the focus on Lissichansk again.

    Posted by: C | Jul 2 2022 22:19 utc | 131

    I just learned something about Russia that at first glance seems rather odd and it’s all because Putin delivered a speech that congratulated SVR employees and veterans on the centenary of illegal intelligence. No, that’s not a typo, the word is indeed illegal. Here’s an article in English about it, “Why Russia illegal intelligence”:

    Why is intelligence illegal? Is it really “legal”?
    “Initially, all Soviet intelligence was mostly illegal. It is illegal. In those conditions, it simply could not be otherwise. What is the difference between intelligence “legal” from illegal? That’s right, “legal” scouts operate under the appropriate official cover, holding various positions in their overseas agencies in the host country. They have passports of citizens of their state. And if the young Soviet Republic is in dense isolation, in a hostile environment, in the ring of fronts? Such a situation left no choice. Our scouts could act in those conditions, with rare exceptions, only illegally. And we always put the term “legal” in quotation marks, since the activities of a scout, even if he has a reliable cover, will never be legal in the host country,” says a Russian Foreign Intelligence Service officer.

    Fascinating, as Spock would say. Putin’s speech reveals more about why it’s called illegal:

    President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Comrades, Dear veterans!
    We have gathered to mark a significant date – the centenary of domestic illegal intelligence. Then, in 1922, this area of work was actually recreated in the country, despite all the revolutionary upheavals, continuity was ensured in the area that is of fundamental importance for our state, for the security and sovereignty of the country.
    I cordially congratulate everyone for whom work in this most important area has become a vocation and destiny, who for years and decades far from the Motherland, without diplomatic and other cover, defended the national interests of our country, who today conduct unique operations, transmitting the most valuable information to the Center.
    Your unit has a rich history and glorious traditions. In the 1930s and early 1940s, illegal intelligence officers timely obtained information about the aggression being prepared by the Hitlerites, about the behind-the-scenes maneuvers of Western countries, which pushed the Nazis to attack the USSR, to march to the east.
    After the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, illegal scouts revealed the enemy’s plans, bringing the Great Victory closer. And during the Cold War, they made a huge contribution to achieving strategic parity. They provided invaluable assistance in the development of domestic industry and science. They contributed to strengthening the defense capability of the Motherland, increasing its international influence and prestige. [My Emphasis]

    It appears 007 would be classified as an illegal scout, although he did have a cover of sorts–Universal Exports. Putin shifts the topic to Geopolitics, and for that I’m going to create a new comment.

    Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 22:24 utc | 132

    @93 bevin
    What a boring and tired smear-job.
    There is nothing cryptic in what I present. I have no swastikas tattooed on my body nor do I frequent any Indo-European bonfires like the deluded-Nationalists working for the globalists in Ukraine.
    The fact is that you, on one hand, take as gospel every terrible story told by the victors of WW2 about Nazi atrocity, yet, when it comes to the testimony of the forlorn poltical brass of the Nazis who were executed at Nuremberg, you disregard completely.
    Why would you so readily disregard the testimony of men who knew they were going to die? Because it contradicts your narrative of your spotless victim. That’s why.
    Barbarossa did save Europe from an imminent Soviet invasion.
    The striking analogy to this, of course, was Russia’s recent preemptive strike against the Ukes.
    We all here at the bar are of course ready to give Russia all the benefit of the doubt, when it comes to pushing back against the MSM natrative that Russia is the aggressor, because we have been following this powder keg since 2014.
    Yet you refuse to entertain the notion that either the Soviets were going to invade Europe and/or what Scorpion presented recently, the transcript of Stalin’s adressing the politburo and making it known that the Soviets will strike when Europe was weak with in-fighting.
    Seems entirely plausible to me, especially if you do understand that Stalin was a fox and that the Soviets did master the ruse during the war.
    Keep in mind that all that would be lost with acknowledging that the Soviets might have been aggressive, is that they were possibly so because their system of technicity required permanent revolution. Iow, it was not because of some innate moral evil (although a great evil it was), but because it would be contradictory to its identity to remain passive and isolationist.
    In summary, bevin, your bad faith is either from your ignorance or your willful obfuscation. But even though I can see this clearly, you obviously have supporters here.
    Happily I sit, however, knowing that the actions of Russia are not those of Soviet Revanchists but Christians who want to deliver the world from the grip of the globalists.
    And your communism will never take a hold of America, either. So what do I care if some old Trotskyist tends the fire of the spotless Soviet victim? You will die soon and that fire will die with it.

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 22:24 utc | 133

    The neocon’s position is clearly framed here ==> Michael R. Pompeo — War, Ukraine, and a Global Alliance for Freedom
    Posted by: too scents | Jul 2 2022 18:33 utc | 31

    Had to go for a drive so I listened to it. Eventually after I stopped laughing and decoded what he was saying, I realized they have no plan whatsoever right now because they have been comprehensively defeated.
    The decoder ring of course is: Everything he says is a lie, and everything US propaganda accuses Russia/China or anyone really of doing is: projection.
    We know from last year’s natgas disputes in the EU that the EU, under USA direction, was trying to force a change in how Russia sells gas, away from long-term contracts and to ‘spot market’ batch sales. I assumed this was simply so the energy speculators in NYC and London could take their pound of flesh, and tie Russian gas sales to the Petrodollar in a roundabout way. Plus they were trying to impose regulations on ownership and management of Russian gas production and transport as a pre-condition for buying. Russia of course ignored them and continued offering long-term contracts, and started limiting the amount of gas for sale on the spot market, I assumed by refusing to sell to commodities traders. But their plan was to gain control of Russia’s energy exports by forcing sales to pass through Western controls. And their goal in ‘de-colonizing Russia’ and partitioning the country is again largely to steal the oil/gas infrastructure.
    Then he goes off on China. Obviously their plan was to militarize both food and energy commodities and use those to strangle China, using made-up bullshit like ‘Uygher genocide!’ and of course Taiwan to launch sanctions against China. Hence the need for control of Russia’s gas/oil. They don’t want to start a direct war with China any more than with Russia, so they planned to use nuclear subs nominally under Australian and probably Japanese control to attack Chinese shipping in the Straights of Malacca. Because Uncle Sam likes to get others to do this sort of dirty work if there’s chance of blowback and a shooting war.
    I mean this isn’t much of a plan, it assumes both Russia and China are stupid and have no agency and will just sit idly by while USA attacks them. And USA thinks they’re the ‘indispensable nation’ because of their control of the world financial system, not realizing the rest of the word sees them as a parasite sucking the life out of the world financial system, and they will dispose of that parasite at the first opportunity. The world actually needs Russia’s commodities and China’s manufacturing a lot more than they need Uncle Sam’s terrorism and mafia-style extortion, or the big ag products USA is forcing on much of the developing world.
    The scariest part of this assclown’s talk was of course the supposed threat by Russia to use tactical nukes, again projection. USA is going to keep escalating the military ‘aid’ they give to Ukraine, until Russia pushes back, then they think they can force the rest of the world to act against Russia. And if Russia doesn’t push back against the HIMARS or Predator drones or whatever it is this week, sooner or later USA is going to give Ukraine tactical nukes to force Russia’s hand. Routing them through Lithuania or whatever and trying to make the world believe Russia used them against their own troops or territory, counting on the public believing their propaganda that Russia is losing and that Russia is continually bombing ethnic Russian civilians in the Donbass.

    Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 2 2022 22:37 utc | 134

    Though I post very little not a day goes by that I don’t read the Moon of Alabama perhaps like some people read their local rag or others read WaPo, NYT, USA Today or whatever…A close friend asked me how I arrived at my views based on sources and I responded that I frequent websites/blogs/YouTube/Telegram and other information sources based on variety of factors one of which is open and civil debate. For me that is the essence of: Thesis, Antithesis, and Synthesis.
    Andrei pisses some people off because he’s enjoying the schadenfreude of it all and rightly so. He’s reveling I think with decorum, I told you dummies this for years part of it. He got under Scott Ritter’s skin for his braggadocio. I love it all it, the give and take of intellectual battles beat artillery fire.
    In this spirit I support this:
    @Posted by: Vick | Jul 2 2022 18:14 utc | 20
    B has stood the test of time for many years, and he certainly doesn’t deserve petulant children acting as disrespectful guests who have done none of the hard work that he has. This is one of the few spaces on the internet left where certain subjects can be discussed in an open and none “official line” manner, and people can disagree with each other without ad hominem attacks, which many of us greatly appreciate and respect its owner for doing the hard work (and it is bloody hard work) to keep it so.
    Now either provide actual useful information and comments, which may include factual disagreements with the host, or STFU.
    Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 18:26 utc | 26
    Greatly appreciate you Roger and others who are “territorial” about protecting avenues– “Safe Spaces/Public Squares”– of civil discourse from which we all can learn and grow to be better human beings and citizens of the globe, nor NOT! I mean that pragmatically because I’m generally cynical not idealistic. I’m a realist.
    Speaking of the “Realist School” I tried to Tweet Prof. Mearsheimer’s latest lecture in Italy and T(Q)itter blocked my efforts. They said it was, get this: “Harmful to Partners.” What “partners I may ask. The Losers??? The Professor was saying that US and Allies are to blame for their stupid Ukrainian policy and it’s outcomes. How controversial is that, given that we’ll be living with it for a generation if not more?
    Does anyone see Inverted Totalitarianism Inverting upon Itself? I think it’s happening now…?
    Posted by: Malik |

    Posted by: Malik | Jul 2 2022 22:44 utc | 135

    At 66: Putin/Lavrov/Shoigu etal…. have made it clear that the war will end when their goals are met….
    Which are……
    1. De-Nazification of Ukraine
    2. De-Militarization of Ukraine
    3. Security of the western borderlands
    4. Roll-back of NATO to 1997 border(s)
    Which means with respect to your question…..
    1. Total capitulation == Unconditional Surrender of all Ukrainian forces and their government
    2. No frozen conflice
    3. True and enduring peace

    While I agree with the last three logical conclusions, where did Putin say they can’t stop the war in Ukraine before Roll-back of Nato to 1997 borders?
    I think Putin made it quite clear, he doesn’t consider it a war.
    The way I understood it from his speach, the goals (of the SMO) are to
    a) defend Russia, and
    b) to help the people in the Dombass (aka the Russian speakers).
    If there are pointers or sources to the points 3 and 4, would be welcome.

    Posted by: C | Jul 2 2022 22:45 utc | 136

    134 Cont’d–
    As I said, Putin moves into Geopolitics to provide context for the important job these intelligence officers perform. I advise barflies to stop and read what Putin says because you haven’t read these words before:

    And today, work in your direction is one of the most responsible, and the requirements placed on employees are extremely high.
    The world situation remains complex and very dynamic. We have to solve non-standard tasks with many unknowns, to respond to challenges in which the uncertainty factor is great.
    In this situation, the priority for the SVR and our other special services is the strategic forecasting of international processes. And such an analysis should be realistic, objective, based on reliable information and the widest range of reliable sources.
    You can’t, as they say, give out wishful thinking. By the way, the so-called collective West has largely fallen into such a trap and in its actions proceeds from the fact that there is no alternative to their model of liberal globalism. And this model – let’s call a spade a spade – is still the same updated edition of neocolonialism, nothing else, an American world, a world for a select few, in which the rights of everyone else are simply trampled upon.
    A clear confirmation of this is the fate of many countries and peoples of the Middle East, other regions of the world, and today – millions of people in Ukraine, whom the West simply cynically uses as expendable material in geopolitical games, in its attempts to “contain” Russia. By the way, what does “contain” mean? Simply prevent us from developing at the pace we need and on the basis of traditional values that we need. That’s what “deterrence” is all about. What kind of deterrence is this? It’s just a fight against Russia.
    At the same time, the West is trying to ignore an inconvenient reality for itself – the formation of a multipolar world order. Of course, they cannot completely ignore these objective trends. But in their practical policy, they are guided by one goal – to maintain their dominance by any means.
    Such dogmatism, the weight of the past, the unwillingness to face the truth inevitably increases the risk of further ill-considered, impulsive actions on the part of the West. But at the same time, this situation opens up opportunities for Russia and our like-minded people in the world – and you know that we have a lot of such like-minded people. Some are afraid, however, to raise their heads and say it out loud, but they think with us in approximately the same way, they think like us, in fact. There are many of them, these like-minded people, countries and people, peoples who want to follow their own path, based on the principles of genuine multilateralism.
    Of course, a separate conversation is needed about such a model, about our vision of the future, about an agenda that would unite, not divide, humanity. And in the future, I think it is important, of course, to specifically devote one of my public speeches or some other format to this subject.
    Today I want to emphasize that, in my opinion, the main thing is multipolarity. I want to emphasize that multipolarity in our understanding is, first of all, freedom. The freedom of countries and peoples, their natural right to their path of development, to preserve their identity and uniqueness. In such a model of the world order, there can be no place for dictate, templates imposed by someone, ideas of the exclusivity of individual countries or even some blocks.
    I repeat: now, against the background of fundamental transformations in the world, it is important to see the overall picture of what is happening, to act proactively on this basis. And here a lot depends, of course, on you, on your work, on its quality. First of all, of course, this concerns the sphere of national security, timely receipt of information on the military and geostrategic plans of individual states and their associations that pose or may pose a direct threat to our country.
    The situation in the global economy and the financial sector should be under constant attention. It is important to study the conjuncture and the main trends in the global markets, to calculate the possible consequences of those steps and decisions that affect the interests of Russia and domestic business, our integration and international projects.
    As before, one of the priorities of the Foreign Intelligence Service is to assist in the industrial and technological development of our country, in strengthening its defense potential. This direction is always relevant, especially now against the background of attempts to exert sanctions pressure on Russia. By the way, and we all know this well, the Soviet Union, and even before the Soviet Union, constantly lived under these sanctions. One way or another, they always tried to restrain us.
    Countering international terrorism remains among the key issues. This includes information support for Russian units stationed in Syria, the identification of ways to supply weapons and money to militants, the location of their bases, command posts and training centers.
    We must not weaken our attention to the security of Russian citizens abroad, including in the Americas, in Western countries as a whole, in the Middle East and Africa. In this regard, I would like to note that in recent years the Foreign Intelligence Service has seriously strengthened its operational, information and analytical capabilities. The personnel potential of the department has grown significantly. And I am sure that you will do everything necessary to adequately fulfill all the tasks set. Like your legendary predecessors, you will work clearly, effectively and with honor to serve Russia and our people.
    Once again, I congratulate you on your anniversary. I wish you, your loved ones all the best, good health and professional success. [My Emphasis]

    I’m certain that all us barflies want to hear that “separate conversation” and before Winter arrives. I would also suspect that many of us barflies are of the sort that Putin spoke about, that we are “like minded” when it comes to the struggle Russia is waging, not just in Ukraine but globally.

    Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 22:47 utc | 137

    @134 karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 22:24 utc
    In case you haven’t seen it, “The Star” is a great Russian film from 2002 about a small group of scouts in the Great Patriotic War infiltrating behind the German front to gather operational intelligence.
    And it’s on YouTube, with English subtitles:
    The Star | WAR MOVIE | FULL MOVIE

    A war drama directed by Nikolai Lebedev. The film is based on a short story of the same name by Emmanuil Kazakevich. In 1944, a group of Red Army scouts were sent behind the front line to clarify the information about the enemy formation. After crossing the front line, the soldiers gradually become convinced that the enemy is secretly regrouping its forces for a decisive counteroffensive. The scout commander decides to infiltrate inconspicuously into a railway junction, where the command center is located…

    Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2022 22:49 utc | 138

    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 17:50 utc | 15
    “more money down the rathole”
    Actually, it’s not. That $800 million is coming from the $40 billion already allocated. They just shifted the money from whatever it was ear-marked for to weapons. Presumably they’ll do the same with much of the rest. In other words, the US isn’t sending more money, just different money. But the moron electorate falls for it because the MSM calls it “new money”.
    It still means more weapons for Ukraine, but we already know that’s a waste of money. What will end up getting cut from that budget is the training and support for the EU that was in it. In other words, most of the money will go to the MIC, which was obvious in the first place. It’s nothing but corporate welfare. Ukraine actually will end up not getting even many weapons as the money is reallocated to the MIC under one scam or another.

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 22:49 utc | 139

    Reply to #26
    Roger, do you know what ad-hominem means?
    From your style, you are another “thanks b” type of sycophants!
    You say that recalling the false prognostications of these people is not material?
    Wake up, learn some logic!
    Now take a deep breath, and learn to read critically!

    Posted by: Vick | Jul 2 2022 22:52 utc | 140

    @ Altai | Jul 2 2022 18:35 utc | 32
    So at this stage do we think the war will end in a true peace
    It depends upon several factors including —
    1. How Russia communicates the true situation, rather than the Ukie lies we see in the MSM
    2. How US/UK politicians respond to the actual conditions, not the fabricated lies
    3. How that can get at Biden and Johnson personally to stop the damn war
    4. How to find some capable diplomats to do the deed . .etc
    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 18:44 utc | 37

    LOL In other words, never. There will be “peace” when the last Ukrainian soldier is dead or captured. I see Scholz finally admitted that Putin started planning this war at least a year ago, if not before, as I’ve been saying, and that Russia can continue this for a long time. But it’s too late for that realization. Russia will not stop until its objectives are met. We all know what I think those are.
    So there will be no “peace talks”, no “peace negotiations” (except for show on the Russian side), and no resolution until Ukraine has lost finally and definitely.

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 22:53 utc | 141

    Posted by: ostro | Jul 2 2022 20:02 utc | 66
    And yet Martyanov gets published in the prestigious US Navy Institute Proceedings: https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2014/december/russias-navy-search-mission
    You’re a fuckhead with zero credentials. Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit.

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 22:58 utc | 142

    @139 karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 22:47 utc – “Putin moves into Geopolitics to provide context for the important job these intelligence officers perform.”
    Yes, he “moves into geopolitics” indeed. He reminds them they are at war. And knowledge of the truth is crucial to all the legal ministrations of Russia. Therefore, act as if at war. Go get that intelligence, pry it out of the world, to save the lives of Russians.
    Hell of a pep talk. One professional to another.
    Many thanks.

    Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2022 23:00 utc | 143

    Great, great news for the people of the southern and eastern former Ukraine. Soon they will all be free of the Nazi bastards and IMF leeches.

    Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jul 2 2022 23:01 utc | 144

    Nemesiscalling @135
    “Barbarossa did save Europe from an imminent Soviet invasion.”
    All the evidence suggests otherwise. Except, of course some last gasp excuses by Nazis- “Stalin made me do it!”
    “The striking analogy to this, of course, was Russia’s recent preemptive strike against the Ukes…”
    That isn’t an analogy it is two totally different events and kinds of event arbitrarily designated analagous, for reasons which it is hard to fathom.
    “Yet you refuse to entertain the notion that either the Soviets were going to invade Europe and/or what Scorpion presented recently, the transcript of Stalin’s addressing the politburo and making it known that the Soviets will strike when Europe was weak with in-fighting.”
    The so called Stalin transcript is irrelevant and had no bearing on military planning. As to whether the Soviet Union was about to invade Europe- it didn’t. Nor did it do so for the fifty years after 1940. Nor had it done so in the twenty years before. That was Stalin’s signature policy: not invading Europe, not using military force to advance communism, building socialism in one country.
    If you knew anything about Trotsky you would realise that this was one of the basic divisions between the two factions in Bolshevism.
    “Seems entirely plausible to me, ”
    ‘Seems entirely plausible to me’ is your guiding philosophy.
    “..especially if you do understand that Stalin was a fox and that the Soviets did master the ruse during the war.”
    The banality of the balance of this sentence speaks volumes.
    “Keep in mind that all that would be lost with acknowledging that the Soviets might have been aggressive, is that they were possibly so because their system of technicity required permanent revolution.”
    So you haven’t worked out that Stalin and his faction was against Permanent Revolution.
    Why not read a book on the subject? Why not know what you are talking about?
    Or is everything to be a matter of faith as in: Rising from the Dead on the Third Day seems entirely plausible to me, after all look what happened to Lazarus.

    Posted by: bevin | Jul 2 2022 23:06 utc | 145

    Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 22:24 utc | 134
    Of course, espionage is illegal. It’s the definition of illegal: operations against the state. Crimes against the population are one thing, the state uses those to justify its oppression of the people. Crimes against the state – treason and espionage – are always the most highly punished. The state looks after itself. Doesn’t matter what kind of state, either: fascist, communist, monarchy, democratic – they all operate in their own interests, never the interests of the people – except to the degree they have to to avoid being overthrown.

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 23:08 utc | 146

    Response to alec_a #33
    So life is “static”! What a bunch of Soviet gifts to the education.
    You and martynove are a pair made in heaven! Did you know that that gift from Baku is living a capitalist life? What a living contradiction! As long as you can make a buck, it is alright to glorify the soviet groupthink of having to live with whatever was your education in 20’s. No room for any learning! There was a reason the perverted soviet thinking collapsed: Some people might want to know the real reason why it collapsed.

    Posted by: Vick | Jul 2 2022 23:09 utc | 147

    Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 18:19 utc | 24
    That’s what happens when an army has been in a meat grinder for months on end with no respite, its capabilities and morale plummets. Even worse when replacements are little-trained and completely inexperienced reservists.
    The key question: Was the UAF defeat due to poorly trained territorial conscripts and a beaten down regular force or was it the consequence of a UA tactical withdrawal?
    I have seen no information on the number of POW held by the RF. It had been rumour / reported that UA had up to 20,000 troops in defence of Lysichansk and environs. If a significant number of these are now dead, wounded, or POW, then the ability to defend the terrain west of the city will be severely compromised.
    Despite their swastika tattoos the UAF is not the Wehrmacht, a force well known for its ability to counter an enemy breakthrough by assembling new battle-groups composed of scratch forces. Market Garden was a good idea but the Wehrmacht was able to react to degree unexpected by the British.
    I question the capacity for an Iraq or Afghan style resistance. Almost all such insurgencies are dependent on a home population antagonistic to the invader and willing to shield the insurgent forces. The population in this case wants the invader out.
    WIth respect to 404, the RF has been careful to avoid civilian casaulties and has immediately moved to deliver benefit to the local population. Given these facts I suspect the population will see the RF as Liberators and not Invaders which is the perspective desired by NATO and Z.
    Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 18:26 utc | 26
    Agreed. Much thanks to b and to the contributions from you and all other informed comment.

    Posted by: Sushi | Jul 2 2022 23:11 utc | 148

    Posted by: Malik | Jul 2 2022 22:44 utc | 137
    “Andrei pisses some people off because he’s enjoying the schadenfreude of it all and rightly so. He’s reveling I think with decorum, I told you dummies this for years part of it. He got under Scott Ritter’s skin for his braggadocio. I love it all it, the give and take of intellectual battles beat artillery fire.”
    Correct.
    Just to piss off that moron Ostro some more, here is Andrei from today. SUCK ON IT, OSTRO!

    Ah, Olaf Scholz Got The Message.
    Do I feel smug at this moment? Come on, I am just human with all my human flaws, can I allow myself at least a brief moment of feeling good about myself and what I do?
    German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Russian President Vladimir Putin prepared for his war on Ukraine for at least a year before inciting it, and predicted Putin is likely to be able to maintain a drawn-out offensive for a “long time.” Scholz made the comments in a Thursday interview with CBS News “Face the Nation” moderator and chief foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Brennan at the NATO summit in Madrid. The war on Ukraine has now dragged on for more than four months, and Russia is using its firepower to make incremental gains. US intelligence estimates that Russia currently holds about 20% of the country, mostly in eastern Ukraine. “When will Russia no longer have the ability to continue this fight? When will Putin run out of weapons, run out of funds? Or can this continue for years,” Brennan asked Scholz.
    No one really knows, Scholz replied, but Putin’s lengthy planning suggests he’s prepared for a sustained war effort. “He has — he is perhaps the leader of a very great country with a lot of people living there, with a lot of means, and he is really doing this brutal war with — and he prepared for it [for] very long,” Scholz said. “I think the decision to- to do this war was taken one year before it started or possibly earlier because he prepared for it. And so, he will be able to continue with the war really a long time.”
    Let me clarify some things here.
    1. Olaf Scholz cannot be viewed as a good source of expertise on anything related to warfare, real economy and, especially so, in relation to Russia. He simply has zero qualifications, even when one considers his present post as Germany’s Chancellor. What he gets are some reports from a few remaining real professionals in BND and Bundeswehr who told him, I am sure, from the get go, about REAL situation. As the unlucky fate of some Germany’s top brass testifies, such as Admiral Shonbach’s forced resignation, Scholz was getting more or less reliable forecasting from the very start of SMO. But…
    2. Western “elites” are simply incapable to hear “bad news” on anything because most of them are petulant children with the maturity level of high schools teenagers. Enough to take a look at the “levels” of the US State Department or other people from Biden Admin who pretend to run the country. As the result of all that, once the stream of, mostly fake, “news” (a euphemism for propaganda) from Ukraine dried up, reality, including the most important one–on operational and strategic level–began to bite. It hurts, I know.
    But recall, that from the inception I warned about a complete delusion about Russia exercised in the West even by people who are supposed to know. Even deeply respected by me as a true, who he is undoubtedly, military professional and, most importantly, thinker is not free from some obvious misconceptions about Russia. Such as Early Warning ABM capabilities. But combined West miscalculated in the most important aspect of Russia–her massive real economic capability which, in turn, drives Russia’s huge mobilization, both economic and military, potential. Only now this “message” begins to trickle UP in both Europe and even Washington D.C. I warned about the dangers of this miscalculations since the very inception of this blog and, of course, in here: [PICTURE OF HIS BOOK “Losing Military Supremacy”]
    It is worth mentioning, that ANY, I repeat it, any intelligence or military institution in the West is not up to the task of understanding Russia’s mobilization potential, which the last 4 months demonstrated perfectly. The FUBAR with delusional thinking regarding West’s weapons’ deliveries to Ukraine and fantastical thinking of civilian leadership of the West combined with crude and unprofessional propaganda from the US military “experts” demonstrate perfectly how incompetent they are. In the end, I warned, that using the framework of Western “economism” in application to Russia is an exercise in futility, because the same framework doesn’t work on West’s economy at large either.
    Beaten to death cliche ascribed to many people ranging from Churchill to Metternich that “Russia is never as strong as she looks; Russia is never as weak as she looks” is just that–a cliche. In reality, it is just that the West was never really good at understanding of military and economic potential translating into the kinetic action. Let’s face it–ALL, without exception, people in the decision making circles in the US know little about the world outside and especially so about Russia–it is a systemic illness of the US body politic as a whole and it is extremely dangerous. I will repeat, again, Russia study filled in the combined West and, especially in the US is an academic fraud, populated by pseudo-“academic” shysters with soft Ph.Ds and Russia “expert” community is laughable because of its sheer incompetence, based in low intellectual level.
    But, if even Olaf Scholz begins to if not see (I doubt he is that smart) to, at least, articulate some realities which really matter, then it shows a very carefully hidden from the brainwashed Western public, some major tectonic shifts at least in Europe. Europeans, I know some, are waking up to the reality that the US, namely its neocon mafia in charge of the US foreign policy, would like to see Europe burn in continental war against Russia, while the US will seat it out and then, as in WW II, will come in to claim its spoils. Neocons are one trick ponies and utterly militarily incompetent people, but even such a door mat and America’s slap bitch as Scholz begins to recognize that it may end really bad for him personally (that’s the main concern) and for the country which he and his government so passionately want to finish off as a nation. So, something is afoot and Scholz suddenly beginning to speak as a man who finally had his two-hour briefing on introductory level geopolitics–you know, geography, industries, military and shit like that–is a good indicator of this. So, in this case, it is a positive development.
    In related news, a neocon rag laments:
    Ukraine’s forces have received less training over the recent weeks, which impacts their capacity to operate some advanced weapons systems, magazine Foreign Policy (FP) reported on Friday, citing sources. Since the launch of Russia’s military offensive in the neighboring country in late February, Ukraine has been constantly asking its Western partners to provide them with more heavy weapons and to do so as quickly as possible. However, as a senior US defense official told FP, “the drumbeat of faster, faster, faster” does not always work well because “the Ukrainians needed to have the training to be able to effectively use these systems.” Meanwhile, the Ukrainian officials cited by the FP, complained on the one hand about the “too slow” pace of Western aid but, on the other hand, admitted that “beyond training for the HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems) and Western artillery, military training for their troops has dipped in recent weeks, leaving them unable to operate more advanced systems.”
    Well, no shit geniuses. Main explanation (among few others) is the fact that VSU losses are catastrophic and most capable and smartest have been simply killed. It is a Volkssturm phase for 404, and it is accelerating as I type this. But you see, if those who matter would have been learning in their respective programs something of value and really tried, they wouldn’t have to deal with this severe cognitive dissonance and they would have chosen a much more constructive and realistic approach to Russia and we all wouldn’t be witnessing what we witness today, not to mention listening (reading) to old fool Kissinger’s definitions of victory or loss for Russia. How this artifact is still around and is taken seriously by anyone is a complete mystery to me, but then again–at this stage the West needs to “arrange” face saving measures and not get involved with nuclear exchange with Russia as many neocons want.

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 23:15 utc | 149

    @ bevin
    Lol.
    Stalin stopped because he was cockblocked the second time by the allies
    …the first with Barbarossa.
    And what was the rumpus with Finland at the outbreak of the war?
    Now I know you are really full of it.
    “I NEEDS MY SPOTLESS VICTIM!”
    ~ bevin

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 23:15 utc | 150

    Compact map-graphic video with English-language captions, from telegrammer (team) Rybar.
    https://nitter.net/PelmeniPusha/status/1543315027335057408#m
    Quick overview of Lisichansk and project what they think is next. They claim Bakhmut (aka Artemovsk). Others say Seversk, due to the fact it both cleans up the Donets river, and leads to a multi-directional approach to Slavyansk.
    Depending on how badly worn down the VSU is (and also how much they’re willing to steal from the forces attached to the “main event” Slavyansk line for a forward defense), it might even be both Bakhmut and Seversk at once.

    Posted by: ptb | Jul 2 2022 23:19 utc | 151

    My guess is bevin that your sympathies, in the end, lie not quite with Russia but with another, shall we say “marginalized” group.
    Tell me, bevin. What size hat do you wear?

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 23:19 utc | 152

    While we’re in a Russian intelligence mood, it’s always worth linking to the enthralling Russian 12-part serial, “Seventeen Moments of Spring”. It’s been discussed and linked here quite a bit, but here’s for one more time:
    Seventeen Moments of Spring 1973 Part 1 of 12 English Subtitles HQ
    and this poster has all twelve parts uploaded in his channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/cfrancocnjap/videos
    I download these things, and if you do the same, here’s a currently good subtitle downloader:
    https://downsub.com/
    They come and go, but this one was working recently.
    The final few episodes features Allen Dulles negotiating with the Nazis secretly (i.e. unbeknownst to his President) for the endings to the war, and doubtless for OSS hooks in the aftermath. Episode 11 I found especially piquant as one of the SS officers reveals his true feelings about the failed Fuhrer, and how the top dogs will escape from Red Army justice and survive into old age, and the return of the next Reich.
    It is a most intelligent production, and the Russians apparently took it greatly to heart. While the action man was the hero spy for the west, in Russia they valued the quiet man, the secret player who gave up everything to live in the belly of the beast, for Russia.
    The characterizations of the west and of Nazi Germany are – at least to my uneducated mind – very maturely drawn.

    Posted by: Grieved | Jul 2 2022 23:22 utc | 153

    Roger @ 121
    I was hoping to put to rest the idea of any type of attack like that in the US. Utter incompetence is laying around everywhere here and nothing more is needed.

    Posted by: circumspect | Jul 2 2022 23:25 utc | 154

    @147 bevin
    You are absolutely wrong re: the transcript of Stalin’s speech to the politburo.
    So in your mind it is perfectly fine for Stalin to threaten invasion of Europe when Germany is turned towards the Atlantic, but when Hitler mentions Lebenstraum in Mein Kampf, you go “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!”
    Do you see how it is bad faith to affirm one source yet not another?

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 23:34 utc | 155

    Posted by: Perimetr | Jul 2 2022 20:01 utc | 65
    > Anyone care to comment on the Russian/Putin decision to do a prisoner exchange of 43 Azov Battalion prisoners (from Mariupol) with the Ukrainians? This decision was reported as being unpopular with the Russian military.
    Zahar cared to comment on that.
    Basically the main goal was to rescue Russian soldiers for Ukrainian captivity. The composition of Ukrainian prisoners given for an exchange was result of negotiations. They made it and that is what ultimately matters.

    Posted by: hopehely | Jul 2 2022 23:37 utc | 156

    Ostro @73. Yes I eas in the USSR in the 1980′ s when Gorbachov wad President
    I went to Sevastopol Crimea Odessa Kiev Leningrad Moscow and travelled on the very basic Transiberian express to Vladivostock. A great 3 months travel itinery and fantastic Russian Culture introduction. What really impressed me was the total lack of advertising anywhere. Just clean streets clean tv and great hospitality. The Leningrad and Moscow metro stations alone were an eye opener.

    Posted by: Jo Dominich | Jul 2 2022 23:43 utc | 157

    Grieved @155, 145 & 140–
    Thanks for those replies and the movie links! I do need something different to watch. I molded an article around the speech and published it at my VK so it gets more exposure. I doubt it will be translated by the Kremlin. Well, I’m surprised; it did, and one of the four pics shows the statue he laid the wreath at a spoke from–a very handsome piece of work, and I wonder who the couple are. His reduction of the trap to hubristic neocolonialism is the most concise I’ve read from anyone. This speech is one reason why I look at all the items at the Kremlin’s website because you’ll never know what’s beyond the link until you click, and this isn’t the first time I’ve been surprised.
    RSH @148–
    Thanks for your reply. Yes of course, the work of a spy is always illegal, but in all my years and after all the spy novels I’ve read, I’d never seen it put that way before.

    Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 23:45 utc | 158

    B You are getting famous, as much as we barflies do hrhr

    Posted by: Macpott | Jul 2 2022 23:53 utc | 159

    13 year old girl added to Ukie hit list after making pleas for peace that were ignored by western leaders.
    Hopefully now that Lugansk is liberated she will be safe.
    https://medium.com/@deborahlarmstrong/13-year-old-girl-added-to-ukrainian-hit-list-fb2eb301fb75

    Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 3 2022 0:01 utc | 160

    On visiting Russia.
    Went to Moscow twice visiting customers, set up an agency there.
    Rode the Trans-Siberian to Beijing in 2016, a six day party. Lakeside views of ice covered Baikal. Solid fuel heating in every carriage. Very cosy. Highly recommended .
    When China connects with its 350 kph rail network I guess that will be history.

    Posted by: Walt | Jul 3 2022 0:01 utc | 161

    “I’m certain that all us barflies want to hear that “separate conversation” and before Winter arrives. I would also suspect that many of us barflies are of the sort that Putin spoke about, that we are “like minded” when it comes to the struggle Russia is waging, not just in Ukraine but globally.”
    Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2022 22:47 utc | 139
    Indeed we do, karlof1 — I like you would, were I younger, be ready to launch myself and my little family out onto the taiga that both Putin and Shoigu love to muck about in…I remember the magnificent trees at the Russian Winter Olympics, Sochi – giants they were! I’d love to see Baikal, go to a little wooden church somewhere south of Moscow… in my dreams I do.
    There’s an estate near Tolstoi’s own, on the Oka River…of course it isn’t there any longer, but it had its own beautiful church and in my dreams I go up the broad front steps of the mansion and up stir after stair to the very top floor to look out on the lindens… well, suffice it to say, every conversation a Russian has, that’s music to my ears.
    And so I say we too can build Jerusalem in whatever country we presently inhabit, so perhaps that’s what we must do. And I will meet you some day and shake your hand on a job well done, sir, as well as the hands of everyone here. I promise!

    Posted by: juliania | Jul 3 2022 0:10 utc | 162

    Mountains of worthless paperwork and hot air are generated and the actual issues drag on for days, weeks, months or years without a solution.
    @ Kadath | Jul 2 2022 21:41 utc | 113
    Your succinct summation of Kaliningrad issues has the ring of truth. Your description of “how the EU works now” brings to mind Charles Dickens’ masterpiece (on the British court system: he knew it well) Bleak House.
    We see Vilnius and Brussels tag-team temporizing, tossing the blockade-potato back and forth — with an apparently half-serious intention of provoking another “unprovoked” Russian response. Zelenskyyy isn’t the only comedian in charge of a state-like entity, it seems.

    Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 3 2022 0:10 utc | 163

    @zet | Jul 2 2022 20:03 utc | 67
    Thanks for posting the George Friedman video link. Listening to him speak I see the US ‘deep state’ personified. A bunch of European immigrants, many east Europeans, and/or their children, schooled in the history and viciousness of European politics, who are smart, articulate, and driven by purpose, who understood how to utilize the resources available to the US government to achieve their ends. They understood the naivete of US politicians and how to manipulate them. They understood how to harvest the intellectual talent of Europe and put it to work. They understood the political terrain of Europe, its weaknesses and fissures.
    In this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImsKp7Sl_DA
    he discusses how the US president (the office of) is weak and how, despite Trump’s eccentricity, there is little change in US foreign policy, and no substantive change at all. That congress is a muddle and can do little of meaning or substance – so those behind the scenes can continue their work unaffected.
    Brzezinski, Albright, Nuland, Kagan, Freeland, Kissinger, ….
    War is inevitable, war is the agent of innovation, there will be war…

    Posted by: the pessimist | Jul 3 2022 0:14 utc | 164

    I have never been to Russia but my parents went to the USSR in the 80s. My dad came home raving about it, especially the subways. He even got a subscription to a magazine about Misha (I think it was) for my kids.
    Los Angeles had no subway at that time, it only had congested freeways and brown smoggy air.
    The USSR looked a lot better to my parents.

    Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 3 2022 0:17 utc | 165

    This is an engaging telling of the betrayals and coming togethers of the WWII leaders. It starts off about other things and gradually gets to the war. Facism: A History https://rtd.rt.com/films/fascism-a-history/#anchor_watch_video
    This is more sedate, with some of the same historians.World War II Leaders: The Hidden Side of the Big Three Relations
    https://rtd.rt.com/films/world-war-2-leaders/

    Posted by: polarbear4 | Jul 3 2022 0:19 utc | 166

    bevin @ 147
    When the person you are arguing with makes three responses to your single post, you know they are getting desperate.
    Your point about Stalin’s view of communism in one country is important. It explains a lot and dispels many myths.

    Posted by: Steve from Oz | Jul 3 2022 0:29 utc | 167

    karlof1 #106

    IMO, Bolton’s as big a failure as Biden and really doesn’t have a different position. Here’s what Bolton thinks:
    “Let’s not get too excited about the fact that Ukraine wasn’t overrun,” he urged, adding that “now we need to decide what our objectives are.”
    According to Bolton, they should be “gaining again full territorial integrity and sovereignty for Ukraine.”
    I’d like to know how Bolton expects to deliver that chimera, “full territorial integrity and sovereignty for Ukraine.” Does he have a fully armed, 500K man Army and Airforce with weapons that work in his hip pocket or can he purchase one somewhere–Amazon?

    OMFG its Bolt-on again. These arsehats are predicted to be the USA victory party in November!! I will buy much choc coated popcorn as I can store.
    What will the voters do in USA? Vote for the most incompetent or the most stupid? If the former I expect Pelosi back again on the front page :/ but if the latter maybe Marco Rubio will be the intellectual powerhouse of the Republicans :/
    Bolt-on to be Secretary of State to Ivanka President?
    Bleak stuff, my sympathies.

    Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 3 2022 0:30 utc | 168

    All western media hide an important fact of the Ukraine war. East Ukraine has over 2.6 million ethnic Russians and Russia gains this population. Even exaggerated Russian war losses and the number of Russians who left Russia due to the war are nothing in comparison to this massive gain.
    Ukraine on the other hand suffers massive population losses to all its neighbors.
    When this war ends, Poland and Hungary will claim their territory grabbed by the Soviet Union and plugged them into Ukraine in 1922 and 1945.
    The comedian might know that and hoping the war would never end.
    Thereafter Poland and Hungary will have their disagreements with NATO as Turkiye. Fun for NATO ahead! Hopefully a messy split.

    Posted by: Jason | Jul 3 2022 0:31 utc | 169

    Thanks NATO for demolishing Libya….
    Libya Declares Force Majeure On Oil Exports
    One would think you would need a secure supply of oil if you want to take on Russia head on.

    Posted by: circumspeect | Jul 3 2022 0:39 utc | 170

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 20:13 utc | 74
    “By that logic, we can surmise that the Soviets were not only the fierce warriors that defeated Hitler but were also the sleepy and dopey colossus that were caught flat-footed at the outset.”
    What does this even mean?
    What f***ing bearing does this have on anything?
    It’s you who’s putting forth these romanticized interpretations, nobody else is.
    “By peddling this narrative, the Soviets can be known as both hero and spotless victim. The perfect synthesis of a modern religion of technicity that the masses must submit to.”
    Cope. Seethe.
    “Russia is delivering the question of Being back to the west”
    Faux philosophical platitudes, this amounts to saying nothing, or at least to nothing
    that can be objectively ascertained.
    Of course what else can one expect to take away from a crusty Nazi academic’s senseless ramblings.
    “This is the way God intended it when he destroyed the Tower of Babel.”
    Says you, this adds nothing to this discussion, more precisely this adds nothing to any discussion.
    But we have reached a new height of hubris!!
    When commenters pretend to know Putin’s or russian military authorities’ plans, it’s already read with skepticism, THIS GUY HERE KNOWS GOD’S PLANS!
    *******************************
    Let’s roll.
    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 22:24 utc | 135
    There is nothing cryptic in what I present. I have no swastikas tattooed on my body nor do I frequent any Indo-European bonfires like the deluded-Nationalists working for the globalists in Ukraine.
    If somebody hadn’t yet associated such ideas with your most enlightened and god-favored presence on this iniquitous nest of judeobolshevik agitators, now they have,, good job!
    The fact is that you, on one hand, take as gospel every terrible story told by the victors of WW2 about Nazi atrocity, yet, when it comes to the testimony of the forlorn poltical brass of the Nazis who were executed at Nuremberg, you disregard completely.
    “Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the Nazis!!?”
    “Why would you so readily disregard the testimony of men who knew they were going to die? Because it contradicts your narrative of your spotless victim. That’s why.”
    “WON’T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE NAZIS!!??
    Barbarossa did save Europe from an imminent Soviet invasion.
    No it didn’t. ;D
    Yet you refuse to entertain the notion that either the Soviets were going to invade Europe and/or what Scorpion presented recently, the transcript of Stalin’s adressing the politburo and making it known that the Soviets will strike when Europe was weak with in-fighting.
    That text is a long way from being an uncontroversial historical fact.
    To begin with, various versions from the early 40s kept getting longer.
    is that they were possibly so because their system of technicity required permanent revolution.
    Another vague attempt at philosophizing, this time with some marxist buzzword thrown into the soup, nevermind it’s not even true.
    And your communism will never take a hold of America, either. So what do I care if some old Trotskyist tends the fire of the spotless Soviet victim?
    And now all the reasons why I would trust what a nazi-apologist Pindo who KNOWS GOD PLANS! and spouts heidegger thinks about Nazis and Communists:

    Posted by: Arganthonios | Jul 3 2022 0:40 utc | 171

    Posted by: Vick | Jul 2 2022 23:09 utc | 149
    So life is “static”! What a bunch of Soviet gifts to the education.
    I do not know if LIFE is static, but your mind truly is. The US/NATO is pushing the world into a conflict like no other in history, but you want to dribble about the Soviet Union, what it was and why it ended. You can never understand the Soviet Union as history, as logic, or as a social construct because your mind is “static”, but history and human relations. are dialectical. The meaning of the Soviet State and its relationship with Nazi Germany, for good or ill, is not the issue today; the US and NATO is. As always, and as always, the dialectical relations between human beings are the struggle between people divided into classes; the class struggle which must play itself out on the world stage. At one time this form, at another time the struggle will take another form, but the class content will always remain the same if class exploitation continues.

    Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jul 3 2022 0:50 utc | 172

    @173 arganthonios
    Not trying to convince you, mate.
    You are not on my side.
    Just trying to convince those that are wondering why the Soviet spotless-victim schtick around here.
    As I have mentioned before, the controlled-mind of the west hates Russia. Putin is therefore just better off telling the truth about rhe situation there, instead of appealing to westerners’ ingrained hatred of “Nazism.” He should just dispense with that stuff and outright say it: he’s putting the globalist genie back in the bottle.
    You seem to think in your deluded thinking that this marks the return of communism or something. Carry on, I say and godspeed!
    My posts are for people who turn their head away from the spoon.

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 3 2022 0:52 utc | 173

    What was this thread about?
    Oh yeah, DeSantis/Pompeo in 2024, correct?

    Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 3 2022 0:58 utc | 174

    RE: Mike Pompeo
    That war criminal should disabuse himself of running for President in 2024.
    Pompeo should count himself lucky if he is still alive in 2024, as he might meet the same fate as US Lt. Col. James C. Willis and Israeli Col. Sharon Asman, not to mention allegedly Michael D’Andrea, all of whom were conspirators with Pompeo in the American murder of Gen. Qassem Solemani.
    Tehran will not abandon reprisal for Soleimani assassination despite US demands
    https://thecradle.co/Article/News/9454
    Iran has not forgotten, nor has it forgiven the American regime officials responsible for this crime.
    Iranian president promises revenge if Trump, Pompeo are not tried for Soleimani assassination
    https://thecradle.co/Article/news/5386

    Posted by: ak74 | Jul 3 2022 1:14 utc | 175

    @RSHack143 —
    ‘ … So there will be no “peace talks”, no “peace negotiations” (except for show on the Russian side), and no resolution until Ukraine has lost finally and definitely.”
    The state of America’s economic and foreign policy situation have caused Biden’s ratings to plummet and the Democrats’ electibility in November to be in a disastrous situation — if Biden were to agree to Peace, it would be seen as humiliating surrender and the Republicans would ride it to unprecedented majorities in the House and Senate ….. so, at the very least, Biden will not/cannot agree to any kind of peace deal.
    Money and military aid will keep pouring in so that Biden and the Democrats can be seen as Ukraine’s loyal supporters.

    Posted by: chet380 | Jul 3 2022 1:15 utc | 176

    @171
    Poland and Hungary gain a ton of refugees, but that will be forgotten. What can stick, when the dust settles, are the side effects of the propaganda job. I.e. western MSM glorifying the Ukrainian nationalism, or rather a hopelessly whitewashed version of it. But one which nonetheless represents what everyone in the region knows, i.e. that the positions of power have been occupied by the neo-nazis who served as the vanguard and continued to be the fighting core of the anti-Russia-proxy etc.
    So you’ll get the legitimatization and growth of existing proto-fascist groups in Eastern Europe, one of the likely permanent effects of this conflict.
    Comedian will as likely as not end up sipping tea in London, just like Poroshenko. He will give zero f##ks.

    Posted by: ptb | Jul 3 2022 1:16 utc | 177

    @Grieved | Jul 2 2022 23:22 utc | 155
    A long time favourite. Have always recommended this to anyone that would listen.
    The series presents a compelling story (plenty of “illegal”), is dramatically satisfying, offering critical insight into the dynamics of a crashing state power apparatus and it’s own internal (life or death) drama.
    The lead is a legend.
    Again, highly recommended!
    A

    Posted by: Spinworthy | Jul 3 2022 1:24 utc | 178

    @Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 2 2022 20:18 utc | 77
    Very astute observation regarding Odessa. And what would the Russians gain by having to launch a Mariupol-style assault against this beautiful cosmopolitan city in order to take it? Perhaps that is the carrot for negotiations. Let Ukraine keep one Black Sea port to avoid utter humiliation. And then maybe in a few years Odessa might decide to join the RF anyway.

    Posted by: Ivor Ulfsson | Jul 3 2022 1:42 utc | 179

    @Posted by: Roger | Jul 2 2022 18:19 utc | 24
    I could not agree more with respect to a guerrilla style resistance in East and South Ukraine, the population will tend to be heavily supportive of the Russians as well as anyone who can provide a peaceful existence without the kleptocratic elites and their nazi thugs.
    The North West, the centre of the Banderistas will be different. Either leave to the Polish/rump state, or spend decades on reeducation, resettlement, whatever is required to cleanse the region of Banderista crap for good. I tend toward the latter, otherwise the Ukro-nationalist bullshit will live on and return again, once more greatly aided by the West, but the cost to Russia would be much higher.

    Posted by: Roger | Jul 3 2022 2:03 utc | 180

    they’re gonna replace him with the even worse Harris. and she might win is the scariest part.
    Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 2 2022 19:29 utc | 50
    I don’t think Kamala Harris has any chance of winning the 2024 election. She is one of the least popular American politicians in US history.

    Posted by: Latin Jack | Jul 3 2022 2:15 utc | 181

    Remove the trash operation in country 404. Is going as well as can be expected.
    The western five eyes ministry of truths appears to have moved on to a trending doom and gloom mode. Still telling lies and making false claims……….

    Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 3 2022 2:18 utc | 182

    Turning to electric heating will be verboten or made impossible by another multifold inflation of electric costs
    But… for the German government, fall and winter are still years away…
    Posted by: Nervous German | Jul 2 2022 21:10 utc | 99
    For the village called Wildpoldsried in Bavaria. A clean alternate energy town since the turn of the century. Turning on all the electric heaters will not be a problem. In the cold winter months.

    Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 3 2022 2:33 utc | 183

    NATO escalates; Putin smiles.
    “Judo emphasizes winning in combat by using your opponent’s weight and strength as weapons against him, while preserving your own mental and physical energy. It embodies the principle that good technique can win out over sheer strength.”

    Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jul 3 2022 2:33 utc | 184

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 2 2022 22:24 utc | 135
    “We all here at the bar are of course ready to give Russia all the benefit of the doubt, when it comes to pushing back against the MSM natrative that Russia is the aggressor, because we have been following this powder keg since 2014.
    Yet you refuse to entertain the notion that either the Soviets were going to invade Europe and/or what Scorpion presented recently, the transcript of Stalin’s addressing the politburo and making it known that the Soviets will strike when Europe was weak with in-fighting.
    Seems entirely plausible to me, especially if you do understand that Stalin was a fox and that the Soviets did master the ruse during the war.

    Happily I sit, however, knowing that the actions of Russia are not those of Soviet Revanchists but Christians who want to deliver the world from the grip of the globalists.”
    First, in an earlier cycle in this life I gave myself entirely to a cause and a community; the latter took some wrong turns inadvertently and it took years for me to face that I/we had turned into something we never wanted and it was very hard to leave and move on. This happens to many of us in different ways including with businesses, relationships, families, political movements, religious groups and so on. So I feel for anyone who is deeply loyal to a cause and know that since all human groups end up disappointing in this vale of tears we call ‘reality,’ they are no doubt struggling between the painful gap between the ideal visualized and the gritty reality experienced. But I still also respect the impulse to embrace, master and serve a cause. It is a noble thing – or can be.
    As to the subject matter of the post, one thing that rings alarms for me when someone whitewashes their own team and blackwashes the opponent’s team is that this perpetuates conflict without nuance which never ends well. It is a way of stripping your enemy of all honor which in turn dishonors yourself and your cause.
    After WWII honor was not restored, indeed it was shredded to and by all sides, victors and defeated. The fruit of this mutual dishonoring is ripening now seventy five years later.
    I have this strange, tentative hope that even though I do not regard either Putin or Russia as world savior angels that because of the roller coaster of a century they just passaged through with the overthrow and murder of the 300 year Romanov monarchy, then the various challenging phases of Bolshevik and then other strains of communism, some of which phases were extraordinarily bloody, and then the gradual shift from communism to the newly reconstructed Russian Federation today under an extremely capable leader who seems to have greatly strengthened and sculpted a full, constitutional and modern state with both private and public sectors, religious faith, tolerance, dynamism, humor, collective solidarity, pride in its people and heritage and so forth, well I hope that they have the necessary suffering and wisdom to actually chart a different course than other large nations and Empires in known history. A truly different course.
    And not because they are angels but because they have been through hell and want to ensure they never go through it again, nor, importantly, do they wish it on others. They do not run on the fumes of hate; they are not frivolous or nervous; they are both disciplined, reserved and human. They manifest as an excellent conservative, Christian state. How this has transpired after their last century’s history is, to me, a kind of miracle.
    Miracles are always good. So am hopeful – despite still being a little cynical by reflex perhaps – that something truly different and better is going down.
    But as many here have remarked, at some point the people are going to have to step up and show the way.
    I suspect this will be Phase Three in Ukraine btw. After the Donbass is secured, the main push in Ukraine will be political versus military, appeals to various populations to conduct referenda and determine their futures with RF troops acting to ensure there is no foul play. In this way RF will show that they truly walk their talk and wish to build a better world this time around.
    Well, I was always a sappy romantic and guess still am. But again: painting your own side as angels and your enemy as demons is a bad road to follow. A bad road.

    Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 2:36 utc | 185

    Anyone care to comment on the Russian/Putin decision to do a prisoner exchange of 43 Azov Battalion prisoners (from Mariupol) with the Ukrainians? This decision was reported as being unpopular with the Russian military.
    Posted by: Perimetr | Jul 2 2022 20:01 utc | 65
    It was probably a very tough decision to make, but, IMO, the return of captured Russian soldiers justifies the call. I would have made the same decision. Hopefully, some of those Azov members will go to the frontline again and get killed or captured. Also, my guess is that the Russians selected which Azov members to keep and which to return based on their previous actions and behavior.

    Posted by: Latin Jack | Jul 3 2022 2:40 utc | 186

    The questions here are wrong. It is not about what Putin wants, but what the USA wants, and that is a destruction of Russia without being massively affected itself.
    The blockade of Kaliningrad happened in agreement with the USA against European will, and the talks of the EU about a softening of the blockade is pure propaganda, according to the motto “we are innocent, we don’t want that”.
    The USA wants to force Russia to attack a NATO country so that the European countries will actively enter the war (and be destroyed).
    That is why there will be no peace. Peace will be possible only when American soldiers arrive home in coffins, and their own country is seriously attacked. As long as that does not happen, the US will continue to escalate the war. Defeat is unthinkable for them.
    Allerdngs also for Russia; because what would happen then? Then it would be China’s turn, that is the American plan, in the long term. World domination. Everything else is naive hope.
    Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

    Posted by: Peter | Jul 3 2022 2:45 utc | 187

    Posted by: Ivor Ulfsson | Jul 3 2022 1:42 utc | 182
    I think Odessa is being left alone to allow for an unconquered region to vote freely to leave Ukraine as a demonstration to the world.
    As far as leaving Ukraine with Black Sea access, the most logical place would be the slightly-more-Ukrainian-than-Russian Mikolaiv. Of course Ukraine would have to be reasonable negotiators to earn this option.

    Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jul 3 2022 2:47 utc | 188

    Thank you for that summary. I have the video up now but thankfully will only watch the first few minutes. Your comment and so many others make this a great one-stop resource for both staying in touch with various key events which come up whilst also gaining perspective because of the eclectic range of voices and perspectives. Thank you, thanks to many others, and thanks to b.

    Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 2:47 utc | 189

    Sorry, forgot to reference. My last post was in response to:
    Posted by: Kingsmeg | Jul 2 2022 22:37 utc | 136

    Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 3 2022 2:50 utc | 190

    Scorpion #188

    But again: painting your own side as angels and your enemy as demons is a bad road to follow. A bad road.

    Thank you for that post. Sometimes though the enemy is a demon and one needs to exorcise the beast with vigor even if less than angelic means.
    Thanks for your sincerity and thanks to b for persistence.

    Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 3 2022 3:08 utc | 191

    Posted by: bevin | Jul 2 2022 18:28 utc | 27
    A friendly fix: it should be ‘Ukrainian resistance’ not Ukrainian ‘resistance’. Also, a bit optimistic maybe, but judging by what I learned on this site about the fascist forces in the Ukraine and the US support for them, it is unlikely to persist for long after Russia completes the tasks it has set out to accomplish.

    Posted by: SlowDL | Jul 3 2022 3:15 utc | 192

    @188 scorpion
    Very well put. The place is richer with your contributions.
    I could not agree more.
    The little miracle is quite something isn’t it?
    The full weight, manpower, gdp, what have you of the Soviet Union could not take down the west. But here you have Russia, a fraction of its size, being nimble and strong in the right points, pushing back against the giant.
    If Putin isn’t an agent of God sent to save us, then I don’t know.
    The only mistake I see in Russia’s current showing is the failure to call the world’s enemy by name. Instead, they are trying to appeal to the ingrained hatred of the image of the historical Nazi instead of calling the globalists behind the Azov and Kraken punks out. It may be out of necessity: maybe Russia thought that Europe would turn to their side if they only appealed to their shared hatred of Nazi Germany. Maybe they wanted to inspire their own troops by invoking the Great Patriotic War. Whatever. It doesn’t matter. What’s done is done and now the gloves are off.
    When there are no more swastika-laden dummies, burned crisp in their trenches, when Zelensky has his own MTV reality show in Miami, when Ukraine is pulverized into a million pieces and Europe is freezing this winter, then what will Russia then call their adversary?
    Knowing the patient and understanding Putin. It will probably be “our partners.” But let’s hope that the countries in the west suffering under the globalists will have taken out the trash by then and can return the favor to Russia by extending their hands to a genuine friend.

    Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 3 2022 3:21 utc | 193

    Latest Brian Berletic…
    Replacing Ukraine’s Dwindling Air Defenses & Kiev’s “Managed Retrogrades” in Donbass
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldMzFWNvJBo
    Crack up when he reports the Pentagon is calling Ukrainian retreats “managed retrogrades”… He pours scorn on that, rightfully.
    Also talks about the NASAM missiles.

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 3 2022 3:41 utc | 194

    Thanks to all the Barflys who gave me their views on Phase 3 – Kharkov or Odessa ? Illuminating that no one addressed the timing of Phase 3 – Fall 22 or Spring 23 ?
    Reading between the lies coming from NATOland. It’s my impression that the war party is planning to make this a war lasting years. The war party‘s only model is unconditional surrender. The war party is incapable of peaceful coexistence. The war party will escalate.
    Eurasia leaders understand this will be a multi-year war lasting at least into 2024. They have prepared for escalation. NATOland hasn’t prepared, they are only just starting to prepare.
    Start laying in supplies my fellow barflies – shortages are only going to get worse for us on the wrong side of Iron Curtain 2.0

    Posted by: Exile | Jul 3 2022 4:10 utc | 195

    The folks at the Duran seem to be convinced that the US election results in November will be the deciding event in the current escalation cycle in Ukraine. If the Democrats “win” the escalations will continue and if the Republicans “win”, the US will start backing down. I’m afraid I cant agree with their logic, the Neocons like Bolton and Kagan, have always won because they represent the big monied interests that bank roll both parties. The US media likes to rattle off that Russia is just a gas station with nukes, but the reality is that the US has been eaten up its’ Military Industrial Complex, the US is just an arms dealer masquerading as a country, too much money is at stake to allow failing policies to be cancelled.
    I suspect that the US will keep escalating tensions and when the Ukraine military collapses completely (maybe by late August), the US will go crazy and send NATO troops into Western Ukraine to try and take Lviv, they may even be desperate enough to try to prevent the Russian liberation of Odessa. Even after the election, regardless of the results, the Western politicians will follow the money and maintain the policies of escalations for the simple reason that Western Political leaders do not, and never did, care about “Democracy”, the welfare of their citizens or even the survival of their nations, only their grift. I think only a rebellion in the militaries of the NATO countries can prevent a World War 3 from breaking out

    Posted by: Kadath | Jul 3 2022 4:18 utc | 196

    Posted by: Kadath | Jul 3 2022 4:18 utc | 199
    I’m inclined to agree. Not sure whether the US has the balls – against likely Pentagon objections – to enter Ukraine itself (I’ve considered the possibility that the US wants a NATO-Russian war with the US more or less staying out of it somehow), but certain NATO countries might try it with US (i.e., neocon) urging.
    There’s also Kaliningrad and now Svalbard in Norway. The Duran guys discussed those two situations today. Those events appear to come directly from neocon maneuvers either in the US, the EU or both. An escalation in either area could turn kinetic depending on what NATO tries to do.
    Putin’s EU-Eurasia checkmate move, connecting Caspian Sea and Black Sea
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH4PL_h4Hs0

    Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 3 2022 4:37 utc | 197

    @ Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2022 22:49 utc | 141
    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2022 17:50 utc | 15
    “more money down the rathole”
    Actually, it’s not. That $800 million is coming from the $40 billion already allocated. They just shifted the money from whatever it was ear-marked for to weapons. Presumably they’ll do the same with much of the rest. In other words, the US isn’t sending more money, just different money. But the moron electorate falls for it because the MSM calls it “new money”.
    Actually you are the moron — it is more money down the rathole. And it is totally shameful to refer to Americans in toto as morons. They are not to blame for a criminal government and media and it is moronic to blame them.

    Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 3 2022 4:41 utc | 198

    China 1937. Looked like Japan was calling the shots. Hirohito and Tojo used their superior military technology to crush the Chinese armies by 1938. China won in 1945.
    To the understand the wests strategy study the Sino-Japanese war.
    This war has barely gotten started.

    Posted by: Wobblie | Jul 3 2022 4:46 utc | 199

    Thanks for your contributions karlof1! I wouldn’t have been exposed to Lavrov’s humour or Putin’s clarity without your efforts.
    And wrt nemesiscalling… we all have our weak spots, wouldn’t want to discount someone because I think you can learn from anyone… but if you look through his previous posts it doesn’t take long to detect which particular group he believes is the source of all evil blah blah blah

    Posted by: Rae | Jul 3 2022 4:47 utc | 200