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July 25, 2022

Another Crazy Plot By A Ukrainian Secret Service Just Blew Up - Flimsy Excuses Follow

In May 2018 the Ukrainian secret security service SBU faked the murder of the Russian 'journalist' Arkady Babchenko in Kiev for very questionable reasons. The murder had first been blamed on Russia.

The SBU claimed that by faking the murder they would uncover a real Russian murderer which made no sense.

It later turned out that the whole thing was part of a corporate raid:

The staged murder, with a fake cadaver, a fake killer and a fake operator behind it, was endorsed (video) at the highest levels of the Ukrainian government.

"Western" media used the hoax to accuse and defame Russia and its president Putin without the slightest supporting evidence. That alone is already a serious mess and reveals the utter failure of "western" journalism and media.

The background of the case, a takeover of a company by illegal means, demonstrates the total social failure of the "western" coup in Ukraine. The worst of the worst, robber barons like Poroschenko and criminal bankers like Kolomoisky went on to steal billions of "western" aid while the Ukrainian state fell apart. Defying the courts the power of the state is secretly abused for slapstick worthy plots to grab up industrial assets.

The victims are the people of Ukraine who get robbed of their means and their security. Russia, the permanent boogeyman of the "west", is least to blame for it. 

In August 2020 there was another crazy SBU plot which a month later unraveled:

On August 7 we reported how the Ukrainian intelligence service SBU, in the guise of a private military company, hired former Russian and Ukrainian soldiers allegedly for jobs in Venezuela. All the hired men had previously fought on the 'Russian side' of Ukrainian civil war in the Donbas region. The men were told to go to the Belorussian capital Minsk from where they were supposed to be later flown to Venezuela to guard oil installations.

The Ukrainian SBU then told the Belorussian security service KGB that the Russian mercenaries, who were then waiting in a resort near Minsk, were in Belarus to overthrow its president Lukashenko. The men were arrested and Lukashenko made a public fuss about the alleged Russian coup against him. Ukraine then asked for the extradition of the men. It had plans to indict them for their involvement in the Donbas war.

But just a few days after the men were arrested the whole plan unraveled. Russian media proved without doubt that the men had been tricked to go to Belarus and that they had no plans to overthrow Lukashenko. The Belorussian president apologized and the men were returned to Russia. As the Russian broadsheet kp.ru summarized (machine translation):

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That version of the story has since been confirmed by the Ukrainian side (see below).

The original plot was indeed to get the former Russian soldiers (who had fought in Donbas) to Kiev by high jacking their plane on the way from Minsk to Turkey. Someone in the Zelensky government had prevented that by contacting the Belorussians.

Today we learn about another crazy Ukrainian plot. The Russian news agency Tass reports of it (machine translation):

FSB thwarted Ukrainian military intelligence operation to hijack Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft

MOSCOW, 25 July. /TASS/. The FSB of Russia disrupted the operation of the Ukrainian military intelligence to hijack the planes of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which was supervised by the NATO special services. This was reported to TASS on Monday at the Center for Public Relations (CSP) of the FSB of Russia.

"The Federal Security Service uncovered and stopped the operation of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to hijack combat aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces, supervised by NATO special services," the CSO noted.

The FSB reported that "Ukrainian military intelligence officers, acting on behalf of the political leadership of their country, tried to recruit Russian military pilots for a monetary reward and guarantees of obtaining citizenship of one of the EU countries, to persuade them to fly and land aircraft at airfields controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine."

As noted in the special service, the identification of these plans by the counterintelligence of the FSB also made it possible to strike at a number of Ukrainian military facilities. "In the course of the operational game, Russian counterintelligence officers obtained information that helped our armed forces inflict fire damage on a number of Ukrainian military facilities," the FSB said. In addition, employees of the Ukrainian special services involved in the operation and their accomplices have been identified.

From the FSB video with a conversation with a Ukrainian intelligence representative, it follows that the Russian Aerospace Forces were ready to pay up to $2 million for the hijacked plane.

You may want to watch the video on the TASS site. It shows excerpts from Telegram chats, maps and flight plans, as well as a recording of the plotters talking with one pilot.

The basic story has been confirmed by Christo Grozev, who works for the British disinformation service Bellingcat as lead Russia investigator. But Grozev is giving the story a very different slant:

Christo Grozev @christogrozev - 11:51 UTC · Jul 25, 2022

Today FSB announced that they have “foiled a plot by Ukraine’s intelligence services” to lure Russian military pilots to surrender to Ukraine – with their planes – in return for millions of USD in payments (thread).

Using a traditional mix of forged "evidence" and loosely interpreted facts, the FSB also accused me personally of being involved in the plane-hijacking plot (on screen: totally forged message, I never had a UK number, obviously).

What is true, however, is I was involved in this crazier-than-fiction story of triple-agents, fake passports and faux girlfriends - as a documentary film maker. Yes, we were chronicling one of the wackiest counter-counter-intel operations of all time. And the docu is still on.

While Russia is presenting today this as a coup for its counter intelligence, in fact the operation was a serious blunder for the FSB, disclosing unintentionally identities of dozens of counter intel officers, their methods of operation, and their undercover assets.

Remember the Wagner sting operation in Belarus? Well, as Russia invaded Ukraine, some of the Ukrainian operatives who engineered that sting decided to repeat it: this time by enticing RU military pilots to surrender. In April, Ukraine adopted an “weapons-surrender-incentive law”

A team of Ukrainian operatives decided to approach Russian pilots with an offer based on this law. We found out about the initiative, and assured ourselves a front seat – to make a documentary about this brazen operation.

Several Russian military pilots were approached and even sent “proof-of-access” videos from inside their planes, in each case bearing a separate number hand-written on pieces of paper. Some of the footage from the inside of the planes was quite detailed and enlightening.

(Note that now FSB are presenting these videos as "controlled leaks" - while at the same time blurring the inside of the cockpit on TV).

The “negotiations” between the Ukrainian recruiters and the pilots, which we filmed, started out as expected, but their tone changed quickly, suggesting the pilots were no longer talking on their own behalf but were “coached” – likely by FSB military counter-intelligence officers

A clear clue that the FSB had intercepted the communications came when one of the pilots suddenly said he no longer wanted to get his wife out of the country, but his "lover" instead.

It took me about 5 minutes to discover that the pilot's "lover" (waaay too hot for him, FSB) was an FSB asset, working as a fitness trainer by day, but moonlighting as an FSB girlfriend-for-hire the rest of the time. (The Ukrainians figured that out too).

Nor did the pilot seem to know anything about his "girlfriend's" background (he was earnestly surprised she even had a travel passport, and that she had been in Istanbul a few months ago, and to Barcelona a year earlier).

...but I also found out throughout the process of her "boyfriend's negotiations with the Ukrainians, she she had been talking to an FSB military counter-intel officer.

Another clue came when a different pilot suddenly asked his Ukrainian counterparts for advice in incapacitating his co-pilot with a sedative.

At this point, it became clear to me that the original luring operation was over – and had turned into a double “operational game” in which both sides were trying to extract maximum information from the other, while feeding them maximum disinfo.

The Ukrainians started feeding the "pilots" - imem the FSB -fake maps of their anti-aircraft deployments, as well as disinfo on the operational airstrips.
At the same time, the pilots sent (probabably equally fake) approach and descent maps of their own. We kept filming.

(At one point, the Ukrainians even convinced the FSB to send the wife of one of the pilots - along with a whole FSB tailing team - to Minsk, waiting for a promised "meet up" with the Ukrainians handlers. The FSB waited in vain for 4 days)

This bizarre mutual-deceipt game came to an end when the FSB realized no one will show up at any of the suggested meet-ups (FSB were keen to identify Ukrainian agents), realizing they've been burned. And the Ukrainians realized they're likely not getting a real pilot either.

Despite the unexpected ending (so far), we still plan to finish this crazy film.

Grozev's long account of him being involved as only a documentary film maker is unconvincing to me.

  • The plot by whomever was certainly done in secret. So how would Grozev find out about it?
  • Why would any secret service allow some outsider to film a documentary while they are implementing such a plot? Fact is, none would.
  • How and why would the Russian FSB know that Grozev was involved in the whole thing if he was only documenting it?
  • Why would it accuse him of being involved, including with chat screenshots he now claims are fake, if he played no active role in it?

More likely is that Grozev was part of the crazy scheme and helped the plotters with his 'investigating' experience.

The whole thing blew up and they now need a story, any story, that makes the failure look good. Grozev is providing that to an international audience.

The SBU did the same in the crazy fake murder of Arkady Babchenko case. They did the same after the crazy Wagner plot blew up.

Are you telling me that the people behind this would refrain from offering flimsy excuses now that their latest crazy plot has been exposed?

Posted by b on July 25, 2022 at 14:24 UTC | Permalink

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Interestingly all these tales come from the fifty and sixties dime novels sold way back in the pre-republican bad fiscal financial era of double down on all wars/spend/spend/spend/tax cuts(for the rich elite)/send all jobs USSA overseas(globalism/slave factories).

Clearly, all the CIA spies. hired to run the SBU. Did not graduate from the sixth grade.

The latest fantasy of bribing the Russian pilots. To hijack the superior designed Russian fifth and sixth generation planes. Must have come from watching far too many reruns of John Wayne Korean War films. Churned out back in the day. From the CIA-funded Hollywood Propaganda film studios. The same studios were used to create the mythical air superiority of the flawed f-86 Sabre Jet... Or, basically one hit wonders. With just one round from the 3.7cm Nudelman N37 cannon.

Too bad the SBU plots are full of the usual CIA fatal error program loops and plot holes.......

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 25 2022 23:30 utc | 101

One of the most important MSM news items in Germany / Europe today was:

"Russia intends to take out / overthrow the government of Ukraine!" (*)

After having watched Lira's video yesterday, all this sounds like the pretext / build-up of Zelensky really being taken out of the game and Russia being blamed for it...

(*) according to MSM, Lavrov said something along "we intend to help the Ukrainian people to get rid of this unacceptable regime"

Posted by: zet | Jul 25 2022 23:50 utc | 102

Posted by: yenwoda | Jul 25 2022 15:06 utc | 14

Count me as a big skeptic of Lavrov's claim - I guess the proof would be if the Black Sea Fleet returns to maneuvering within ranges that have been denied by those weapons.
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Yen (money) wo da (i am a big man) you would be a "big skeptic" if a Harpoon Missile blew your head off.

Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jul 25 2022 23:50 utc | 103

Utterly astonished that anyone takes Lira seriously at all.

Posted by: Wester | Jul 26 2022 0:03 utc | 104

Patrick Armstrong | Jul 25 2022 19:11 utc | 55

Like an expert butcher dissecting a carcass. I miss your blog but here in the free and fair west national interest overrides the rule of law. Somewhat dangerous to get on the wrong side of national interest.
The great game is back on. Putin, Xi, Modi, Erdogan all look to be players. Blinken and dead face Sullivan are not even in the running, let alone Joe reading out the technical notes on his teleprompter.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 26 2022 0:31 utc | 105

Another suggestion that Israel and Russia might be headed towards a bust-up. After Jeddah, Tehran and Ankara it is beginning to look as if BRI + Russia is acting as a pole of attraction far stronger than Washington + EU. Israel is running out of opportunities to miss the opportunity of making peace with the world that surrounds it.

"... we may expect Moscow to have its ‘ducks all lined-up’ – so as to present Tel Aviv with a proposal: Let us say Moscow puts forward a Mid-East ‘Minsk Accord’, and tells Israel that this Accord represents the only path to avoid a multi-front war with Iran. Will it work? Can Israel transition? That is problematic. Netanyahu has pushed Israel towards a far right ideological stance. Israel now stands on the wrong side of the Middle East paradigm.

"In parallel to the Iran–Israeli conflict, a Syrian ‘Minsk’ may come into view, too – as Moscow’s attention on Ukraine is relaxed. Russia, too, is gently widening the move towards a new commodity-based trading system for the non-West..."
Alistair Crooke's Strategic Culture column is always worth reading.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/07/25/llusions-of-superiority-whats-next/

Posted by: bevin | Jul 26 2022 0:40 utc | 106

!08 Nobody 'tells' Israel what to do. Well maybe Yahweh but even he needs a good team of lawyers.

Posted by: dh | Jul 26 2022 1:03 utc | 107

dh | Jul 26 2022 1:03 utc | 109 "Well maybe Yahweh but even he needs a good team of lawyers."

Nah. Just call Shoigu.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 26 2022 1:34 utc | 108

@110 I'm not to well up on Old Testament stuff but I believe the destruction of Israel forecast is something to do with a Beast from the North. Gog and Magog are in there somewhere too. The way things are going we may not have long to wait.

Posted by: dh | Jul 26 2022 1:45 utc | 109

It has been said that the conflict in Ukraine is the turning point between the dominance of the West and a mulitpolar world. More specifically perhaps, it might become the turning point between the dominant of the West and BRICS++.

Posted by: HelenB | Jul 26 2022 2:41 utc | 110

@111 Correction. I was thinking of the Book Of Revelation which is the last book in the New Testament of course.

Posted by: dh | Jul 26 2022 2:46 utc | 111

“. . .seems fairly unbelievable that Ukraine was storing its entire stock of Harpoons on a dry dock and a patrol boat(?) next to another dock adjacent to the grain silos. . . Count me as a big skeptic of Lavrov's claim” - Posted by: yenwoda | Jul 25 2022 15:06 utc | 14
Here’s what the Russian FM said:

“These goals (targets) were a combat boat of the Naval Forces of Ukraine and an ammunition depot, where Harpoon anti-ship missiles were recently delivered. They were delivered in order to pose a threat to the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Now these Harpoons do not pose a threat to us” - Lavrov.

The destroyed Harpoons do not pose a threat to Russia.
Seems fairly unbelievable you didn’t know that. Count me as a big skeptic of anything you claim from here on out.

Posted by: DocHollywood | Jul 26 2022 3:23 utc | 112

dh | Jul 26 2022 1:45 utc | 111 "The way things are going we may not have long to wait."

It's getting that way.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 26 2022 3:35 utc | 113

Patrick Lawrence in Consortium News (and the sooner Patrick Armstrong rejoins him with his dazzling analyses of the military and Russia the better.) The Two Patricks made a great combination.

"...Vladimir Putin traveled to Tehran last Tuesday for a summit with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader. This was an unusual occasion: The Russian president has not been much for foreign travel since the Covid–19 pandemic erupted; it was his second state visit outside the Russian Federation since Russia intervened in Ukraine last February.

"And it is a big deal, deserving of our attention. It marks another step, a considerable one, in the construction of the diplomatic, political, and economic infrastructure that will — I don’t consider this a daring prediction — define the 21st century. We witness the new world order many of us anticipate as it is being built....

"...As soon as Wang Yi, the Chinese foreign minister, returned to Beijing, Sergei Lavrov, the Russian FM, flew to the Chinese capital for talks. As soon as those talks finished, Wang flew to Tehran and concluded a 25–year, $400 billion agreement with the Islamic Republic — tech transfer, infrastructure development, oil sales, and so on — that had been years in gestation.

"..There you have it, the dynamic of the non–West’s coalescence. It is not anti–American or anti–anybody, as the Western press insists it is. The powers involved have, imagine this, too many common interests to bother with adversarial enmity and, indeed, would rather the Americans and their allies cut out the ideological antagonism and join in the effort to build a world order worthy of the term. Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping made this explicitly clear in that remarkable joint declaration they made public on the eve of the Beijing Olympics last winter.

"What happened in Anchorage, what made it so key a moment, is that the Chinese simply gave up trying to work with the Americans: You can’t get any sense out of them, Beijing concluded. This, parenthetically, is exactly what the Russians concluded 11 months later when they intervened in Ukraine..."

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It used to be part of the anti-Communist theology, preached by Joe McCarthy, that the State Department (infested by socialists) "Lost China" In years to come as the United States retreats into a well deserved and comfortable obscurity there will be angry old men , neo-cons, in the corners of mental hospitals complaining about those who "Lost India" because that was what happened this year, after years of taking India's eternal subservience for granted and confident that Modi's Hindutva fascism sealed the alliance, the Empire lost its Crown Jewel to the sheer force of gravity.
"Apart from significant signals that Moscow and Tehran are committed to deepening ties, the centerpiece of the occasion was a simultaneous memorandum of understanding signed by the National Iranian Oil Company and Gazprom. In an agreement worth $40 billion, the Russian energy supplier is to assist on the technology side as Iran develops two gas fields and six oil fields. Further out, this is part of a long-in-the-making project that will connect Russia, Iran, and India by sea, road, rail, and, eventually, a very significant Iran–to–India oil pipeline."
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/07/25/patrick-lawrence-21st-century-order/

Posted by: bevin | Jul 26 2022 3:37 utc | 114

#---Posted by: Tard | Jul 25 2022 16:26 utc | 28

Good luck with faithlessness.

Posted by: Anne B | Jul 25 2022 18:24 utc | 49

I'm sorry but I am not knocking faith. It just doesn't come in to play when it is about recording and reporting on the facts, unless you are reporting on faith. Reporting is an accurate account of reality. It isn't based on anything but the truth. Reporting is non partisan because it is about who, what, when, where, why and how. "If someone has a problem with the facts, the facts aren't the problem" (Chris Martenson)

The reporter lays it out and gets to ask questions, but not provide answers.
The assumptions and answers are for everyone to consider for themselves. Today our mass medial is 90% of the time lying in hopes we believe it.

Real news has to be immune to opinions. That is why it is so rare and so valuable.

Posted by: Tard | Jul 26 2022 3:53 utc | 115

yenwoda is all washed up now, lol.... et tu brute??

@ bevin - cradle article on israel dynamic - is it possible russia is tired of having israel poaching russian citizens to israel and thinks it is time to stop this bullshit?? russia probably has already had a bit of an exodus out of russia since feb 24th.... people - no matter what religion or what have you - are assets, not liabilities... just a thought..

Posted by: james | Jul 26 2022 4:13 utc | 116

The blow with the Russian pilots will be one of the funniest/stupidest part of this nonsense.
Ukrainian 'intelligence' PAID the Russian intelligence to show the Russian where the Ukrainians have their air-defenses.
You can't make this shit up. I hope that the Russian crew got promoted :]

Posted by: Fred | Jul 26 2022 5:32 utc | 117

Just roaming the web and trying to find info about the possibility of a Ukrainian counteroffensive near Kherson. I found this article on the Daily kos with purported Russian losses. Wondering how much truth there is to any of the wide range of stories and videos in this post.

Ukraine Counteroffensive Link

Posted by: Objective Observer | Jul 26 2022 6:02 utc | 118

not much, I expect if it is published on the Daily Kos. Markos Moulitsas has always been a reliable purveyor of CIA propaganda.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 26 2022 6:14 utc | 119

Posted by: james | Jul 26 2022 4:13 utc | 118
For net population, you have to consider those coming in , those going out, the birth rate and the death rate.
Israel? More going out in the last three years. Before that, rapid growth. I've read that they are somewhat picky about who they let in...like a lot of countries.
Ukraine, even before these last 8 years of conflict, has been losing people. Low birth rate.
macrotrends.net

Posted by: HelenB | Jul 26 2022 6:15 utc | 120

Objective Observer | Jul 26 2022 6:02 utc | 120

Southfront has a recent article stating the opposite but fierce clashes ongoing...
Losing Battle For The Vuhlehirska Power Plant, Ukraine Counterattacks In Kherson Region

Daily Kos is NEOCON leftist liberal. One of the many left outlets that has twisted good people into pretzels.

Southfront can be accused of Russian propaganda but they can be very evenhanded at times. Much more so than the western organs of bullshit.

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 26 2022 6:23 utc | 121

Ukrainian officials say they are confident of progress on the battlefield in the southern region of Kherson, as strikes against Russian command posts and ammunition depots impede the invading force's defensive capabilities.

CNN wordshit reporting...impede the invading force's defensive capabilities

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 6:25 utc | 122

Ukrainian officials say they are confident of progress on the battlefield in the southern region of Kherson, as strikes against Russian command posts and ammunition depots impede the invading force's defensive capabilities.

CNN wordshit reporting...impede the invading force's defensive capabilities

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 6:26 utc | 123

On the matter of "grain deal,"
There's no grain deal between Russia and Ukraine. There's only an agreement of Russia with the UN, facilitated by Turkey that Russia would allow a daily agreed safe passage for grain ships from Ukrainian ports in the Ukrainian sea border. Demining and giving safe passage out of Ukrainian held ports is Ukraine's responsibility. There's also no mention of stopping the SMO for the movement of grain ships. All military targets are legitimate. Also, all grain ships can be boarded for checked at sea.

Interesting, which insurance company would insure such ships and the grain. Anything can happen from the Ukrainian sea border to Bosporus, for example, a drifting Ukrainian mine might hit it.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 6:41 utc | 124

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 26 2022 6:23 utc | 123

no it isn't leftist. it's liberal, which these days means the same thing as neocon mostly, but it is not leftist.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 26 2022 6:47 utc | 125

This is the best they can do....

Posted by: Glen B | Jul 26 2022 6:55 utc | 126

There were two traitors Russia had, Gorbachev with his perestroika bullshit and Yeltsin with his believing in the west's trustworthiness. At least Yeltsin had a sober moment to appoint Putin has the acting/transitional premier. Or, a group of Russian patriots understood the dire situation and pushed Yeltsin to take that decision. Of course, there were many tries to outs Putin, sponsored by US, but all failed.

Finally, Biden would die a failed man, a vegetable, even worse than Ronald Reagan, who helped Gorbachev to demolish USSR.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 8:09 utc | 127

When Caught by the FSB, BellingCat!

Joe Tzu

Posted by: BurnEye Minds3rdEye | Jul 26 2022 8:39 utc | 128

So Grozev was used as a useful idiot here, easy to control because of his narcissistic personality, feeding off the attention. The admission of a documentary maker is not strange as the operation served not to get Russian planes but as a PR stunt. Something to humiliate Russia internationally and publicly. You need a "reporter" for that to work. That part is believable. Anything Grozev said about it is not, naturally. But he cannot help blurting out the essential problem: "The Ukrainians started feeding the "pilots" fake maps of their anti-aircraft deployments, as well as dis-info on the operational airstrips". This is highly unlikely. For the PR stunt to work, the pilots needed to actually attempt to land somewhere and not to get shot down as deniability would be too easy in such scenario. The operation would not be complete, not remotely interesting, without actual pilots and/or aircraft defecting. Hence there's a good change the maps were actual or contained sufficient information for the Russians to figure out, combining it with what they already knew, some additional locations. This explains perfectly the result, the firing and the reports of damages SAM installations. This case cannot be cracked with "evidence", nobody will give anything of that nature. But with logic and knowledge or personalities a narrative arises which explains the facts on the ground a little better.

Posted by: John Dowser | Jul 26 2022 8:44 utc | 129

Ostro:
the CNN quote makes much more sense if one changes "defensive" to "offensive" but of course if they wrote that then the CNN would have admitted that the Russians are on the offensive and they're not supposed to do that.

Either that or they fail proof-reading and/or English.

Maybe all three?

Meh, CNN is garbage to begin with; be kind to your brain and don't read it :)

I agree with you that insurance should be an issue.

Maybe the recipients of the grain will have to provide the insurance somehow. Maybe the nazis will set up some kind of insurance operation themselves since it's another opportunity for corruption. Plenty of "rust hulks" already traversing the waters with dubious papers and "insurance".

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 26 2022 8:50 utc | 130

Plenty of "rust hulks" already traversing the waters with dubious papers and "insurance".
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 26 2022 8:50 utc | 132
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True, but has any rust hulk, ever tried to leave Odessa for example? The thing is Russia, or DPR can send ships from their own ports, if the need arises. Anyway, they won't be Russian ships.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 8:58 utc | 131

Posted by: John Dowser | Jul 26 2022 8:44 utc | 131
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the ending "zev" of the surname Grozev doesn't mean he is a Russian, even though to the foreign mind/brain it sounds like a Russian surname. He is from the traitorous Bulgaria.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 9:01 utc | 132

I don´t know if somebody already pointed to this article which I stumbled upon a couple of days:

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/07/20/ukraine-the-long-view/

It really is the long view starting in the 1600s spanning up to today. The author really boils it down at some places:


So the US fought World War II, and in the process, became world leaders in killing their fellow human beings, because it was the only way to meet the objectives of total global control established by the bankers who ran government policy. And Britain could do nothing about it. All they could do was watch their empire go down the drain, as India and other former colonial possessions broke away. They struggled to keep hold of their monetary wealth and investments, including the creation of offshore tax havens at various locations in the Caribbean and elsewhere, but it wouldn’t be too many years before the once-mighty globe-straddling British prime minister became an American poodle.

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Then we are hearkening back to the Wolfowiz Doctrine and the standard US posture of seeking to gain universal military dominance as our fundamental stance in the world. We then have an obligation to ask what other countries think of our policies and position. Where is the time-honored practice of diplomacy or the search for compromise and respect among nations?

The answer that Russia and some other countries have given is to look at the UN Charter, which Vladimir Putin would cite as his justification for entering Ukraine with the Russian army in 2022. The UN Charter, which outlaws aggressive war and casts a legal cloud over preemptive war, does not support US global military hegemony, the Wolfowitz Doctrine, the War on Terror as defined by George W. Bush—“You are either with us or against us.”—or Full-Spectrum Dominance.


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Russia launched its “Special Military Operation” on February 24, 2022. It must be emphasized that even though Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the order for the Russian military to cross the border and move into Ukraine, Ukraine started the active phase of what was from the start a US proxy war by commencing bombardment of the Donbass. But going back further, I will say again that the US acted to start the war by working behind the scenes to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014. The coup itself could not have taken place without US planning and support. So when the Russians crossed the border, the war was already almost eight years old.

This essay may not bring all new stuff to light but I think the author puts everything (mostly) in a good context why what happenend and when. Surely you cannot agree to all but it is a good and thorough overview.

Posted by: Goingo | Jul 26 2022 9:09 utc | 133

Pope Francis acknowledges ‘catastrophic’ effects of residential schools in historic apology to First Nations, Métis and Inuit peoples Globe and Mail says, but it won't bring back 4,120 Indigenous children killed by the Catholic Church in Canada...just a bit of crocodile tears...Sure, it is off topic, but shows what a Nazi country Canada was and is...

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 10:05 utc | 134

“We are now also in the unfolding of lies, big lies. There are those mass graves being uncovered at residential schools,” Rev. Marcin Mironiuk told his congregation during a mass on July 18, 2021 at Our Lady Queen of Poland Parish, a Polish-language church in Edmonton, Alberta.

The Polish Catholic priest in Canada has repeatedly called news of unmarked graves at former residential schools “lies” and said that Indigenous children who were forced to attend residential schools died of “natural causes.”

The Polish Catholic priest's surname is Mironiuk...very Polish, really!

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 10:24 utc | 135

Christo Grozev's role in this opration makes me wonder if Bellingcat was also involved in setting up the trap for Roman Protasevich. Further back, they seemed too ready to admit that the attempted kidnapping of the "Russian mercenaries" was an Ukrainian plot.

Remember, that Bellincat coordinated with the Syrian terrorist to stage the Douma chlorine hoax.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 26 2022 10:56 utc | 136

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 26 2022 10:56 utc | 138
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Roman Protasevich - Arrested In Belarus - Is A Western Government Financed Neo-Nazi/

Posted by: ostro | Jul 26 2022 11:43 utc | 137

Objective Observer @ 120

Moulitsas is an aristocrat. His family deeply involved in the Archbishop Romero assassination. CIA.

Read the comments over there. All bots. Or maybe they do have a crew of believers so dim they can impersonate bots.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jul 26 2022 12:24 utc | 138

ostro | Jul 26 2022 10:24 utc | 137

The Polish Catholic priest [Mironiuk] in Canada has repeatedly called news of unmarked graves at former residential schools “lies” and said that Indigenous children who were forced to attend residential schools died of “natural causes.”

How does Mironiuk account foe the bodies and other forensic remains exhumed from those graves? Or the DNA tests matching those remains to surviving relatives, establishing they are indeed the bodies of indigenous children?

Such evidence would be pretty difficult to explain away.

Perhaps once the Canadian authorities get around to actually doing any of that, you can condemn Mironiuk. Until then the juries still out.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Jul 26 2022 13:02 utc | 139

circumspect, pretzelattack, and oldhippie

Thanks for the heads up about Kos' background and the Southfront article. Used to check out the Kos a little about 20 years ago. Looked around and found some interesting info about his family's background including that his family immigrated to the US in 1980 - same year Romero was assassinated - and his family's oligarchical connections. moulitsas family info

It's just that sometimes the inability to get info about Russian losses (and I know there must be some) makes me curious and perhaps even credulous. Just trying to read widely to keep my perspective and I appreciate the deep knowledge base of those here at the bar.

Cheers.

Posted by: Objective Observer | Jul 26 2022 15:32 utc | 140

james@118
I think that the Russians are fed up with encountering Israeli volunteers in the Donbas shooting in their direction. Just as the role Israel played in Syria-hand in hand with ISIS- annoyed them too.
But thereason why they are no longer putting up with Israel's antics is that they can sense that the extreme zionists, in fact fascists, are finally isolated with their allies, the US, basically, no longer in a position to protect them.
There is constant talk of Israel threatening to bomb Iran but that is no longer possible, Iran and Russia and, in effect, China are in a defensive alliance. Israel is not going to be allowed to break that up.
So Russia's message to Israel is 'make peace with your neighbours, a real peace that includes the Palestinians, the real Palestinians, not Abbas and the stooges in Ramallah.'
So we will see whether Israel takes the opportunity to, in effect, establish itself not as a hegemon, or a base for NATO but as a bilingual, multicultural community in historic Palestine, at peace with its neighbours and ruled by sensible people.
Nobody is holding his breath- Israel has been dominated by nutcases for so long it is hard to see them going away.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 27 2022 2:20 utc | 141

The Moon is so full of Russian bullshit propaganda that it is no longer worth visiting or reading. ADIOS Russian Websit.

Posted by: Ubin | Aug 5 2022 21:04 utc | 142

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