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July 22, 2022

50 Sick Headlines About Vladimir Putin's Health

Over the last months the British MI-6 disinformation service had fun with strewing rumors over Vladimir Putin's health, mostly via British tabloids. It used its usual tools - a former MI-6 chief, 'former' MI-6 spies and the ever available 'anonymous' Russian oligarch who lives in London. Like its other propaganda claims these were obvious nonsense but found a reliably echo in the gossip media.

CIA Director William Burns finally had enough of it. Getting asked and having to answer stupid questions about Putin's health is a waste of time. Official media picked up on it. The narrative is thereby dead.

The Russians said 'thanks' to Burns and reinforced his message.

For incomplete lists of other MI-6 induced nonsense headline storms see:

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Perhaps it is to cover for the "fact" that Biden has cancer?

Posted by: Maracatu | Jul 22 2022 9:18 utc | 1

“There are lots of rumors about President Putin’s health and as far as we can tell he’s entirely too healthy,” --- William J. Burns, director of the C.I.A.

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" --- Henry II, King of England.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 9:21 utc | 2

Oh, it was Zelensky says before, now it is The chief of Britain's foreign intelligence service believes... and quire recently, it is Contrary to rumors surrounding Vladimir Putin's health, the Russian President is "entirely too healthy," according to the head of the CIA.

What it actually means, the so-called western intelligence has no intelligence, whatsoever. Aha, Biden is doing a Trump..."I got Corona, but I am OK"...😋

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 9:32 utc | 3

Making everyone believe somebody is dying is a good way to cover up when you assassinate them. If the Russians claim otherwise it's 'Russian disinformation'.

An important question is after this war, is, fundamentally, Putin an indispensable man? Whether he was before, things are different now, Russia as a state can have no illusions about what the US State Department has in store for it. Putinism might well outlive any man called Vladimir Putin. Indeed to kill him may bring it to strange new heights.

Posted by: Altai | Jul 22 2022 9:36 utc | 4

As long as the leader of the free world(TM) is healthy and sound...

End of quote. Repeat that line!

Posted by: Goingo | Jul 22 2022 9:38 utc | 5

Speculating further on the health of the conflicts participants, and the nationalists newfound stamina in resisting the Russian advance, I propose that the Ukrainian resolve has more to do with amphetamines and other psychopharmaceutica than any other recently supplied Western weapons system.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 9:53 utc | 6

Well he is 20 years older than me and I saw recently that he was playing hockey,

So he’s not doing as poorly as some might wish.

Those that pay attention might notice that the Russian Federation has a government ins upport of their president and how he is encouraging leaders of the various states.

After Vladimir Vladimirovich will come another capable leader of the RF.

They are not going away, not a one time deal because of a single man.

I do so wish that my country had a good leader who could select and foster the ministers and support groups as VV Putin has done.

Last one I saw coming close was Pierre Elliot Trudeau, although a Rhodes scholar he had vision and initiated the process that created a Canadian constitution to disengage us from Rule Briittania.

From what I have read of his speeches Fidel Castro also grasped the world situation and his people’s role it as well.

Interesting to not that both Cuba and the USSR sent support to anti colonial wars in Africa.

Cubans fighting in the South of Africa!

Hope typepad does not eat my painstaking phone typed post.

Posted by: jonku | Jul 22 2022 10:00 utc | 7

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (22072022)


The enemy is suffering significant losses in weapons supplied by Western countries.


In the period from July 5 to July 20, four launchers and one transport-loading vehicle were destroyed by ground and air based precision weapons of the HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems transferred to Ukraine. Of these, two launchers were eliminated in the area of the settlement of Malotaranovka, another "HIMARS" and a transport-loading vehicle in the area of Krasnoarmeysk and the fourth launcher – on the eastern outskirts of Konstantinovka, Donetsk People's Republic.


As a result of a strike with precision ground-based weapons, the temporary deployment point of the nationalist formation "Black Hundred" deployed in the building of school No. 23 in the city of Kramatorsk of the Donetsk People's Republic was destroyed. Up to three hundred nationalists and over 40 units of special equipment were liquidated.


High-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed a warehouse of rocket and artillery weapons of the 59th Motorized Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, equipped in a production hangar on the territory of an industrial zone in the eastern part of the city of Nikolaev. Enemy losses amounted to up to 30 personnel, six units of armored and automotive equipment, over two thousand shells for MLRS "Grad", about a thousand shells for self-propelled howitzers "Acacia".


The strikes by operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery against military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue. During the day, six control points were hit, including the 92nd mechanized Brigade in the Rogan district of the Kharkiv region, the command and observation post of the battalion of the 72nd mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Serebryanka district of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as five warehouses with rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition in the areas of the settlements of Zaitsevo of the Donetsk People's Republic, Vishnevoye and Uspenovka of the Zaporozhye region.


As part of the counter-battery struggle, four platoons of Grad multiple launch rocket systems, 24 artillery platoons of D-20 howitzers and 13 artillery platoons of D-30 guns were suppressed.


The Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile launcher was destroyed by the operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces near the village of Cherevkovka, Donetsk People's Republic.


Russian air defense means shot down 12 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles during the day in the areas of the settlements of Malaya Kamyshevakha, Vernopolye, Oknino, Balakleya, Recruiting, Slatino, Dolgenkoe, Chervonyi Oskol, Peschanoye of the Kharkiv region, Petrovsky and Zlatoustovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.


In addition, two shells of the Hurricane multiple launch rocket system were intercepted in the Topolskoye and Malaya Kamyshevakha districts of the Kharkiv region.


In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 260 aircraft, 144 helicopters, 1589 unmanned aerial vehicles, 357 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4141 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 762 multiple rocket launchers, 3176 field artillery and mortar guns, as well as 4453 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

Posted by: Summary22072022 | Jul 22 2022 10:15 utc | 8

One wonders how these rumours surrounding Putin's health or state of mind arise in the first place and why people in the spook business are more interested in passing on and exaggerating gossip rather than check and verify so-called information and try to figure who is behind it and why. Any scuttlebutt is good for business, I suppose, if it sells and makes a profit at the expense of truth and proper reporting.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 22 2022 10:22 utc | 9

But, but, but, the CIA director says and I quote:

“There are a lot of rumors about President Putin’s health, and as far as we can tell, he is entirely too healthy. It’s not a formal intelligence judgment."

He is right of course!

And I detect a psychological death wish in these words!

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jul 22 2022 10:28 utc | 10

Projection on a grand scale by the boys who never grew up and have pretended they are the once and only princes and rightful rulers of all of the Earth and its peoples. It is they that are diseased, mentally ill, raving lunatics who will soon be gone - with age if not absurd suicide.
They certainly won’t die in battle being the cowardly children they have been brought upto be.
DeeDee and his/her boys own dreams in tatters.
He stopped Corbyn becoming the legitimate elected PM of the U.K. - twice!
A Complete Utter Nobhead Twat.

They come from the ‘ancient’ Crown and were bred to rule.
They wrote their own origin stories and fables, new religion for the masses - Lewis, Tolkien… it goes back to mid 1800’s started after the defeat of the proxy general Napoleon… by Russians!


Mutti will be begged to sort a peace and restore some security for the peoples of Germany and the EU that she has spent her life serving.

I will repeat what I have been saying for many months - NS2 was BUILT to function but was expected to be in the Western Princelings hands. It WILL function. Unless the princelings want to lose it ALL - not just their personal grandeur and their stolen wealth but their palaces estates and even lives as the peasants really really really will be a tad bit upset with the final straw. The narratives are already underway and have been for a decade - grassroots cannot be stopped - the Dutch and German Farmers , only the slow to rile British peasantry hasn’t yet flexed our muscle- when we do it will be swift - along the lines of the polltax upheaval and the General Strikes - born out of decade long never ending Austerity.

Where will they run too? Where the Nazis were taken to - just like in their fantasy to the West, across the Sea …hobbit and all and with their strange self regarding white supremacist certitudes. Watch out Canada and Alberta you are the last bastion of the fairies and their Masters from where they will launch the secret weapons of disease and Nukes and hope to come back in the future as the Chosen Princelings to Rule …again.

They really really really need extermination like a dangerous pathogen to stop their attempts at repeating their failed history.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 22 2022 10:50 utc | 11

I’d be less worried about VVP’s health than our own. I have visions of a satellite picture being taken this winter at nighttime. With Europe being all in dark and N. Korea all lit up because it’s swimming with Russian oil.

Posted by: P. Wittgenstein | Jul 22 2022 11:08 utc | 12

Europe being all in dark
@P. Wittgenstein | Jul 22 2022 11:08 utc | 12

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Contrarywise to the ECB raising rates by 0.5%, the Bank of Russia has just cut their Key Rate by 1.5%.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/russian-central-bank-slashes-key-rate-to-8-will-study-need-for-more-cuts

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 11:18 utc | 13

An addendum to my earlier as the news of headless chickens running shrilly about accelerates through the free inter web.

Boo hoo 😢 the bastard BRI is already transporting a LOT more containers by the month and our lovely Deepwater monopolies and new ‘Freeport’s of the City of London’ are crumbling.

The indomitable spriteer reports

Spriteer on Twitter
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1550435831315406848?s=20&t=Ry-QyOHYUk8BSTdU85sTqQ

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jul 22 2022 11:20 utc | 14

https://thesaker.is/oligarchy-or-patriarchy-rule-by-the-few-or-rule-for-the-many/ this article explains a lot about the why? I quote:
"The Oligarchy does not like national identity, it destroys nation-states, as in the EU, for it wants ‘World Government’, which is code for World Dictatorship. This is the Dictatorship of the uprooted, which is why the Jewish component in it is strong (Jews have been uprooted ever since the Romans uprooted them in 70 AD). Oligarchy is based on the priority of accumulating money and therefore guarantees corruption, instability and the boom-bust cycle, because it rules by the financial sector. Hence the importance of Wall Street in New York, The City in London, Frankfurt in Germany and La Bourse in Paris. Hence the importance in all these countries of financial indices, which, so strangely, are always announced in their national news by their media."

suggest propaganda content in media must remain in private hands and be globally administered. If ever, the truth were to be exposed to the masses, Oligarch hegemony would vanish. getting to the bottom of this controlled abuse by the oligarchy and understanding the security of the oligarchy is guaranteed not by nations but by controlled information content and controlled access of audiences to the propaganda.

Posted by: snake | Jul 22 2022 11:21 utc | 15

The (((Western))) Media sources grow... A short list compiled over the past several months
>ACCORDING TO A PENTAGON OFFICIAL
>I'VE HEARD
>RUSSIAN SPY CLAIMS
>THE GENERAL STAFF OF UKRAINE'S ARMED FORCES SAID
>MI6 CHIEFS SAY
>ISRAEL SAYS
>DATA FROM SEVERAL RELIABLE SOURCES
>THE BRITISH MINISTRY OF DEFENCE HAS REPORTEDLY SEEN INDICATIONS
>CONFIRMED TODAY BY ARESTOVICH
>CREATIVE BUT MOSTLY RELIABLE SOURCES
>ORYX
>CONFIRMED BY VISUAL EVIDENCE
>AUDIO REPORTS DETAIL
>UKRANIAN MEDIA REPORTS
>PENTAGON PROJECTS
>ACCORDING TO ANALYSTS
>U.K. SPY CHIEF INFORMS
>THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE SAYS
>A TOP-SECRET CABLE WARNED
>IT WAS ONCE REVEALED TO ME IN A DREAM
>INTERCEPTED AUDIO OF RUSSIAN TROOPS REVEALS
>POST BY IGOR STRELKOV
>RESPECTABLE SOURCES CLAIMED
>ACCORDING TO REPUTABLE SOURCES
>NUMEROUS REPORTS ARE NOW CIRCULATING
>THE UKRANIAN SECURITY SERVICE HAS ANNOUNCED
>THE NUMBER THREE PENTAGON OFFICIAL SAYS
>NICHOLAS DRUMMOND'S FRIEND CLAIMS
>A UKRANIAN FRIEND LIVING IN KYIV CLAIMS
>MORNING SUMMARY BY GEN. STAFF OF UAF
>UKRANIAN INTELLIGENCE CLAIM
>BELLINCUNT CONFIRMS
>RUSSIAN (((DISSIDENT))) PREDICTS
>PUBLIC SENTIMENT SUGGESTS
>MULTIPLE REPORTS FROM BOTH SIDES
>UNNAMED SOURCES CITED
>ACCORDING TO UNNAMED (((WESTERN))) OFFICIALS
>CITING UNNAMED WESTERN OFFICIALS
>A SOURCE FAMILIAR WITH RUSSIAN THINKING
>A SOURCE WHO SPOKE ON CONDITION OF ANONYMITY
>US INTELLIGENCE REVEALS
>UK INTELLIGENCE CONFIRMS
>NEXTA SAYS
>REUTERS SAYS
>/K/ TOLD ME
>I MADE IT UP
>US OFFICIALS SAY
>PENTAGON SAYS
>DOD BELIEVES
>GENERAL MILLEY CONFIRMS
>FBI AGREES
>DIPLOMATS SURMISE
>EU PROMISES
>CNN BELIEVES
>MSNBC HAS FOUND
>STUDIES SHOW
>EXPERTS SAY
>TWATTER (((BLUECHECKMARK))) SAID
>UNCONFIRMED BUT REALISTIC REPORTS
>BASED ON RELIABLE SIMULATIONS
>A SOURCE FROM UKRAINE
>NATO ESTIMATES
>JOE BIDEN SAID
>AZOV COMMANDER SAID

Posted by: leaf | Jul 22 2022 11:28 utc | 16

The British establishment mirrors its out-going prime minister, Boris Johnson in every way. A despicable clown.

Posted by: Steve | Jul 22 2022 11:29 utc | 17

Posted by: snake | Jul 22 2022 11:21 utc | 16

The Russian Federation has her own oligarchy. Strangely enough, you don't hear much talk about it on the Saker blog. Have been looting the state of its assets and bringing capital abroad for 30 years up to 1 Trillion $ according to Sergey Glazyev. When is this going to change? Will it ever?

Posted by: v | Jul 22 2022 11:36 utc | 18

We need to counter these lies with articles like "10 Top Putin Health Tips", "Stay Fit the Putin Way" and "How to Get in Shape While Forcing the EU Economy to its Knees".

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Jul 22 2022 11:39 utc | 19

Zelensky state of mental health could be not so well. When he speaks he looks slightly inadequate. Bidens health certainly is not so good.

Indeed nationalist militants could be using some of the drugs hitler was using during invasion in France. It would not help in long term but could give edge at the short term.

"Black Hundred" were ultra-nationalists. I guess Ukraine employs all kind of right wing radicals. There are belorussian right wing divisions, some russian nazis and so on.
Russia had done mutch to re-integrate Chechenia. They give them all the rights, now they have more power than if they were formaly independant. Of corse russian population don't like that, but it is for peace and populism would not work there.

Media and intelligence could do more. Like this creation of russian opposition now re-publicated by terrorist media, a gay relationships between Putin and prince of Monaco Albert: https://www.kavkazcenter.com/russ/content/2007/08/21/52413/chem-zanimalis-v-tyve-putin-i-sodomit-prints-monako-albert.shtml
At least it is fun to read and gave me some laught.

Posted by: Alef | Jul 22 2022 11:44 utc | 20

High-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed a warehouse of rocket and artillery weapons of the 59th Motorized Infantry Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, equipped in a production hangar on the territory of an industrial zone in the eastern part of the city of Nikolaev. Enemy losses amounted to up to 30 personnel, six units of armored and automotive equipment, over two thousand shells for MLRS "Grad", about a thousand shells for self-propelled howitzers "Acacia".

and so on...

Posted by: Summary22072022 | Jul 22 2022 10:15 utc | 8
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This says that the RF GRU gets info of movement of Ukr formations, exact coordinates etc from people on ground around those places, other than satellite info.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 11:48 utc | 21

In lack of real not politicised intelligence Burns had to debunk the rumours not to look stupid.

Posted by: Cartagocat | Jul 22 2022 11:48 utc | 22

Actualy Putin at the time was willing to share information how he re-integrated Chechenia to tha Ukraine. But if you are fighting 'asiates', 'the horde', 'an orcs', 'mongolian and finno-ugric hybrids', 'a colorado beetles' etc you are not taking advice.

This says that the RF GRU gets info of movement of Ukr formations, exact coordinates etc from people on ground around those places, other than satellite info.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 11:48 utc | 22


Of corse. They have supporters in Ukraine and probably in all the ranks in ukrainian military.
In regions where piopulation still support Ukraine ukrainian shelling could be more successfull, too.

Posted by: Alef | Jul 22 2022 11:59 utc | 23

(Jews have been uprooted ever since the Romans uprooted them in 70 AD).

Actually there are some who believe that the “real” Jews were completely annihilated in 70 AD and everyone claiming to be Jews afterwards are imposters.

Posted by: Hapalong Cassidy | Jul 22 2022 12:08 utc | 24

Putin has put on a couple of pounds. Maybe there has been more stress in his life lately.

Posted by: mi | Jul 22 2022 12:20 utc | 25

Ohh that's sarcastic!
More please!

As long as the leader of the free world(TM) is healthy and sound...

End of quote. Repeat that line!

Posted by: Goingo | Jul 22 2022 9:38 utc | 5

Posted by: Jpc | Jul 22 2022 12:36 utc | 26

DunGroanin #11

”Projection on a grand scale …”

Indeed, a lot is to cover one’s very own shortcomings … Joe “stumbling” Biden with memory loss.

Pure part of war propaganda, nothing new to see … it works every time. WW1 en WW2, Vietnam with Westmoreland and McNamara, modern wars of Afghan campaign, illegal Iraq War, lies of Libya and Syria. The British MoD going full throttle with nearly a £ billion in contracts. Recently looked at the hybrid warfare in cyberspace … Russia is a minor player in comparison.

Wat Joe and Boris are part of a campaign of dehumanization of all Russians … blocking news sites, unity narrative where every punctuation is mandated … 1984 to new heights … I come across persons praying for the demise of the president of Russia … Cold War brainwashing … consequence of this campaign and ultimate goal is genocide. Ukraine media too are extreme in fascist rhetoric … very ugly, brains sold to the empire. Dangerous times Made In USA … exceptionalism, nationalist display … continuation MAGA.

Genocidal intent

https://brill.com/view/journals/icla/aop/article-10.1163-15718123-bja10098/article-10.1163-15718123-bja10098.xml

M.A.D. one must hate the country and it’s people before dropping the bomb.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 22 2022 12:39 utc | 27

Posted by: mi | Jul 22 2022 12:20 utc | 26
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I don't think, Putin has stress as such. If he had, he had it in the very beginning, when the country was handed over to him by Yeltsin. Then he had an uphill task, with that nut Gorbachev betraying the USSR, and being attacked by the Jewish oligarchy in Russia. Once, he passed that hurdle, and made Russia great, this is not stressful.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 12:40 utc | 28

By the way, the major Russo-hates hates are out, BoJo kicked out by his own, Draghi too. Biden "has" Covid (or he doing a Trump)...Scholtz given a second chance with gas flowing in NS1, even at 40% capacity, not much of chance for Macron (the guy is silent for long now), Poland's Pinokio (Morawiecki) keeps on lying...😏

The rest are nobodies...

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 12:45 utc | 29

As long as the leader of the free world(TM) is healthy and sound...

End of quote. Repeat that line!

Posted by: Goingo | Jul 22 2022 9:38 utc | 5

Can you point me in the direction of this "free world?"

Because I live in the US and would like to visit it.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Jul 22 2022 12:45 utc | 30

Can you point me in the direction of this "free world?"
Because I live in the US and would like to visit it

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Jul 22 2022 12:45 utc | 31
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LNR and DPR...Mariupol, Kherson, Melitopol...

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 12:48 utc | 31

Mariupol today https://youtu.be/rbsdjQfMv-I

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 12:50 utc | 32

Mariupol getting rebuilt. It'd be free housing... https://youtu.be/uPgCOzXhFHE

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 12:59 utc | 33

The POST-PUTIN RUSSIA MAPS – Commonwealth of Free Russia States:

https://freenationsrf.org/assets/images/forum_eng/forum_image_eng_2.jpg
https://freenationsrf.org/assets/images/forum_eng/forum_image_eng_3.jpg
https://freenationsrf.org/assets/images/forum_eng/forum_image_eng_4.jpg

Those pictures are taken from a website for the conference "FREE NATIONS OF RUSSIA FORUM" happening this weekend in Prague, see [1] for detailed information around that – there is also a telegram channel [2] and there will be a live stream. There's also a recorded 8-hour stream of the last "forum" from May 8 in Warsaw [3].

From the website:

Among the Forum main focus areas are:

De-imperialization and Decolonization
Deputinization and Denazification
Demilitarization and Denuclearization
Economic and Social changes

This is disgusting stuff and you have to see it to believe it :-/

[1] https://freenationsrf.org/en.html
[2] https://t.me/s/freenationsrussia
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w0bGHM-0n4

Posted by: zet | Jul 22 2022 13:11 utc | 34

And, a sort of an official (some might say propaganda) video, https://youtu.be/W5m5M07AUp0

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 13:11 utc | 35

Posted by: zet | Jul 22 2022 13:11 utc | 35
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Well, there are always traitors...the Vlasov types...😏

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 13:14 utc | 36

The Metallurgist Day 17.07.2022 festivities in the Gurov park, Mariupol https://youtu.be/fpwf98yAgn4

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 13:23 utc | 37

38 comments so far and 10 of them from ostro

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 22 2022 13:32 utc | 38

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 22 2022 13:32 utc | 39
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Well, I can put all the video links in one or two posts...😏
Take your time and watch those vids...

You can check yourself. If you search "Kharkov today" in YT, for example, you'd get old vids/news, the latest being 11 days old. If you search "Харьков сегодня" in YT, you'd get vids just about 2 hours old, and a lot of yesterday's ones.

But, you won't find Gonzalo Lira in any of those searches, either in English or Russian.😏

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 13:46 utc | 39

Judging from Burns' complaints I would say the assassination attempt failed, and badly.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 22 2022 13:54 utc | 40

Speaking of health, any idea regarding Patrick Lancaster, who last posted a video 2 weeks ago?

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jul 22 2022 14:05 utc | 41

Self-isolating due to Covert-1984, or the skin cancer is back, this time in the blood??? Or is it whoever has been running the country since 22 November 1963 that has blood cancer???

Posted by: William Haught | Jul 22 2022 14:06 utc | 42

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 13:11 utc | 36

It would be helpful if you add some more info on the videos like this, not least for those who don`t speak Russian. You get the gist of what is being done, but a few words would help.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jul 22 2022 14:09 utc | 43

Posted by: zet | Jul 22 2022 13:11 utc | 35

The truly sad thing is that these creeps most likely believe in what they say and what they are doing. Their German "equivalent" would probably be the so-called Reichsdeutschen, who also somehow live in their own universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsdeutsche

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jul 22 2022 14:15 utc | 44

Actually there are some who believe that the “real” Jews were completely annihilated in 70 AD and everyone claiming to be Jews afterwards are imposters.

Posted by: Hapalong Cassidy | Jul 22 2022 12:08 utc | 25

Interesting, yet ignores the.....

Jewish hereditary is based purely on the maternal side.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 22 2022 14:22 utc | 45

"This says that the RF GRU gets info of movement of Ukr formations, exact coordinates etc from people on ground around those places, other than satellite info."

Well,SIGINT can also do much. Idiots don't learn that every cell phone is huge risk for security. Other communication equipments are equally bad. You can also compare statistically heat signature, vehicle movements etc. to get the picture. If these smells fishy, they are:)

Posted by: Pavi | Jul 22 2022 14:22 utc | 46

the seven kinds of cancer had to be reset or wesern intelligence agencies looked too stupid to be taken seriously from anything here on. i guess the algorithms picked up the social media disbelief so they acted.

Posted by: hankster | Jul 22 2022 14:36 utc | 47

Anyone who still believes anything from the western MSM is shockingly out of touch. It's single and only function is to mislead.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jul 22 2022 14:37 utc | 48

“Ukraine does not sign any documents with Russia,” Mykhailo Podolyak wrote on Twitter, on the "grain export" matter...Sure, but will sign a capitulation, unconditional surrender.

Interesting, if the Odessa sea will be cleaned of Ukr mines...😏 I am sure there won't be any promise from Russia that it won't land in Odessa.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 14:39 utc | 49

Disturbing that the deal has been signed - was hoping that the ongoing disruption to grain in places Africa, would result in a crisis whereby migrants would end up fighting Europeans for their resources, precipitating societal collapse.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Jul 22 2022 14:46 utc | 50

Disturbing that the deal has been signed - was hoping that the ongoing disruption to grain in places Africa, would result in a crisis whereby migrants would end up fighting Europeans for their resources, precipitating societal collapse.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Jul 22 2022 14:46 utc | 51

Natgas:

German bailout of Uniper is revealed. The state is covering losses due to natgas price increase, subsidizing something like $10B ballpark.

Canadian/Siemens turbine wasn't allowed to cross border out of Germany due to delay in paperwork.

TTF Futures for the coming winter: slight increase (5%ish). A bit smaller increase for the following winter.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 22 2022 14:47 utc | 52

If you ride a bicyle or a Bear to keep fit, it is better to fall off the Bicycle.
Joe Tzu.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 22 2022 14:48 utc | 53

Russia must not waste arms and ammunition in other places. Instead Russia must go for the jugular and annihilate England.

If ever Russia needed to identify ‘legitimate strike targets in to hit with maximum gain , then here is a good start list:

1. The MI6 building on the south side of the Thames opposite the UK Parliament.
2. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office buildings in Whitehall.
3. The SAS training centre in Hereford.
4. Sandhurst military officer training academy southwest of London.
5. The naval docks in Devonport and Portsmouth.
6. The runways at Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted, Luton and London City airports.
7. The infrastructure at Tilbury docks.
8. Railway lines leading into Waterloo-, London Bridge, Victoria, Liverpool Street and Fenchurch Street stations.
9. BBC TV centre on Wood Lane, West London.
10. The Guardian newspaper premises just next to Kings Cross mainline railway station.

Depending on your appetite for inducing ‘Western Outrage’, you could add the Palace of Westminster and Downing Street to the list. Not to mention Chequers and all the rest of the MSM prostitution service offices.

Almost all the warmongers live and work around London.

So make sure that the majority of any strikes hit the warmongers’ places of work, local areas and critical infrastructure.

It would be far better if no such conflict ever broke out.

Posted by: Soi | Jul 22 2022 14:50 utc | 54

@Soi | Jul 22 2022 14:50 utc | 55

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Be patient. Liz Truss will suffice.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 14:53 utc | 55

Western leaders should be praying for Putin's continued health and well-being. His successor is unlikely to be so restrained and humanitarian against US/ZATO aggression. Putin is conducting a carefully controlled demolition of the OWO (Old World Order), so that it collapses mostly on its own footprint, minimizing collateral damage. As in Ukraine, this is less explosive than the Mossad/CIA's spectacular free-fall destruction of the 3 WTC towers; it is more akin to a dismantling, salvage, and recycling operation. Putin intends to save a multipolar world, unlike the neoliberalcons who would destroy the world to save its remains for themselves, Putin's successor may well take the gloves off.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jul 22 2022 14:54 utc | 56

Am so glad that have not and will not read any of that huge, long list of articles!!!

What IS a little surprising is that its the head of the CIA who has to stand up and deny the whole business.

I guess every narrative needs a little Reset from time to time...

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 15:01 utc | 57

Soi @55

Fixing Britain is not Putin's job. That's for the British people to do.

When the time comes that Russia must deal directly with Britain they will likely take care of half your list with a single bomb. There is no reason for them to be gentle with Britain like they are with the Ukraine.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 22 2022 15:05 utc | 58

Doug -

Agreed. If Putin goes, his replacements are likely to be real hard chargers.

Posted by: Exile | Jul 22 2022 15:13 utc | 59

Actually there are some who believe that the “real” Jews were completely annihilated in 70 AD and everyone claiming to be Jews afterwards are imposters.

Posted by: Hapalong Cassidy | Jul 22 2022 12:08 utc | 25

Interesting, yet ignores the.....

Jewish hereditary is based purely on the maternal side.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 22 2022 14:22 utc | 46

In Roman times, Judeans were the natives of Judea, regardless of their religious affiliation. There is no way they were all annihilated. Obviously some left the territory.

It was common among nomadic peoples to adopt maternal lineage, since the men were travelling for hunting, trade, war, much of the time. The mother's identity was certain, the father far less so.

When making generalizations about "real" ethno-cultural groups it is useful to distinguish whether you are talking about race or other attributes. There is no one Jewish race. As with Christianity or Islam, there are also significant variations in the Jewish religion.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 22 2022 15:14 utc | 60

"Almost all the warmongers live and work around London. So make sure that the majority of any strikes hit the warmongers’ places of work, local areas and critical infrastructure. It would be far better if no such conflict ever broke out."

Posted by: Soi | Jul 22 2022 14:50 utc | 55

A Buddhist teacher I knew wrote a comedic (unpublished) novel about a fictional enlightened kingdom. The King, who loved observing how his faithful retainers handled being bitten by mosquitoes or his frisky Lhasa Apsos who would snap at their ankles, developed a new method of War, namely the use of highly sophisticated Tranquillizer munitions which could be shot out as injections by pistols or dropped from the air to pacify entire buildings or even cities in one fell swoop.

Then the sleeping enemy would be transported to re-education camps where they would learn how to be upright cheerful human beings again, of course with a sense of humor.

It's a pity such a thing isn't really practical. But given the amount of money spent on arsenals of mass destruction, maybe this more gentle approach would be worth a few billion in research instead of the 40 biolabs funded in part by the Bidens in Ukraine, not to mention in USA, Canada and China and who knows where else all over the world?

I like your list of targets. Would only need a few thousand men and 1000 helicopters or so to pick them all up and transport them to..... Crimea?... the outback with the aborigines??... Amazon tribal villages???.....the African Masai????

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 15:14 utc | 61

and the obsession with putin continues... it explains why i avoid the msm like the plague... thanks b... wishing putin good health....

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2022 15:20 utc | 62

Interesting, if the Odessa sea will be cleaned of Ukr mines...😏 I am sure there won't be any promise from Russia that it won't land in Odessa.

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 14:39 utc | 50

Beach landings are an invitation to high casualties and are only used when there are no other options. "Sitting ducks" is an expression we like to use in the west.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 22 2022 15:20 utc | 63

@Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 15:14 utc | 62

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Magical thinking is not necessary for the UK's re-education.

The UK currently produces about 60% of its domestic food consumption by economic value ...

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/united-kingdom-food-security-report-2021/united-kingdom-food-security-report-2021-theme-2-uk-food-supply-sources

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 15:25 utc | 64

Like I said yesterday about Putin, there's no man over 70 except Mr Putin that I'd be afraid of taking on in a one on one scrap. He looks like a man who'd kick 7 lumps of shit out of you in a fight. To have survived that long as king in Russia means not only is he a tough mother fucker, but he's got some pair of balls on him and a mighty clear head. I'd be proud to have him as my president. Then I think of pedo pete in the white house and you know, it's like the fall of the roman empire through nepotism, addiction, sexual perversity, insanity and most importantly no direction and no long term plans. The USA like my own country desperately need regime change, the same wankers have been raping our countries for far too long and it has to end.

Posted by: Eoin Clancy | Jul 22 2022 15:26 utc | 65

“I am writing to you from a once friendly and very beautiful country, which, alas, has been gone for 8 years now. I'm a little over 30 and I'm just horrified of what has become of people! Where does all this hatred come from? As far as I can remember, for me 9th May was a fete day more than my birthday. I will always honor my grandfather - his medals were always in a place of honor, and now they have to be hidden.

I remember how on 9th May we went to barbecues with friends, and we sang "Tanks rumbled on the field" and "Black Raven", and now everyone has become strangers. From this hatred and anger that makes you sick and wants to run away without looking back. But I can not. My great-grandfather and grandfather are buried here. And I am not writing to you from the Donbass, not from Odessa, and not even from Kharkov, I am writing to you from the Cherkasy region, central Ukraine. I speak Ukrainian all my life, but I can't stand it when people are divided by language.

I was in Poland, worked as a laborer. We had a group of Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Pridnestrovians. The Poles were very surprised how we can understand each other when everyone is from different countries...

God willing, in central Ukraine, in the homeland of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, someone like him will come again, and we will drive all this black mob that has settled here to the West. Believe me, we are praying for you, and we await you very much.”

Read on
(You'd need a translator)

Posted by: ostro | Jul 22 2022 15:36 utc | 66

Not to forget we are looking at the mean import of M16 a sick venomous organisation who regularly disposes of reputations and careers by cheer and smear in the MSM and discreet reference to a persons misdemeanours courtesy of Big Brother surveillance squid GCHQ. Witness the invisibility of Corbyn (ex Labour Leader) deposed and smeared by agents or to coin a phrase 'useful idiots of Mossad and M16'on the instruction of the Tory Government and its backers who demand a one party state in Parliament. Everything in the UK is sick beyond measure and like a dying dinosaur salivating on its imperial victims before lashing out at all and sundry to prolong its evil countenance!

Posted by: Rick | Jul 22 2022 15:39 utc | 67

Posted by: james | Jul 22 2022 15:20 utc | 63;
Its surprising indeed, that obsession with Putin. Apparently they can't think of anything more
intelligent. Agree with you..
Have a good health.

Posted by: DutchZ | Jul 22 2022 15:40 utc | 68

The propaganda in Finland has reached insane levels. The ordinary citizen has no chance to know the truth if he/she is busy in everyday affairs like work and taking care of family. So i think many of them are innocent in this hysteria. Lets hope the truth emerges after Russian total victory and hopefully cond winter.

Posted by: Vesa Sainio | Jul 22 2022 15:40 utc | 69

Regarding spies the Brits are somewhat different. The heads of Five, SIS, GCHQ, etc. are professionals, not politicians or flunkies parachuted in like in the US. When they "retire" they just fade into the background, doing stuff that the government (or anybody) really, really doesn't want people to think or even know about. Sometimes plotting against their own or an allied government (e.g. Harold Wilson, Gough Whitlam). Ruthless, self-serving, morally bankrupt bastards.

Posted by: pasha | Jul 22 2022 15:49 utc | 70

When he talks about living appropriately to the school-age people he encounters, Putin stresses the important balance required to keep the brain and body healthy and productive, that everyone should adopt a sport and some artform that appeals to them and work to master them. Judo and hockey are clearly Putin's favs, while his intellectual pursuit seems to be history, although doing his job as Russia's president keeps his mind very agile. And as far as I can tell, there's an unofficial fitness policy for government figures as most are in good condition--Putin sets the example.

Lavrov's another person who finds time to workout, which is very difficult given the tasks he must perform, a regime of shuttle diplomacy that Kissinger wouldn't have been capable of since he was never physically fit. Lavrov's thing is football.

And of course, there's "Putin's isolation" and "Russia's isolation," which is a much bigger, more employed bunch of claptrap. It was addressed by Maria Zakharova in her briefing on Wednesday:

Question: White House National Security Council Strategic Communications Coordinator John Kirby said that the Russian leader's visit to Iran demonstrates the degree of isolation between Vladimir Putin and Russia, and now they must turn towards Iran for help. How can you comment on such statements?

The head of the press service of the State Department, Ned Price, said that the United States has not yet seen an opportunity for negotiations with Russia on Ukraine and demanded that Moscow change its approach. Under what conditions does Moscow see the possibility of negotiations?

Maria Zakharova: I commented on the first question yesterday in my Telegram channel: "Special Coordinator for Strategic Communications of the US State Apparatus John Kirby said that the president's visit to Iran and participation in the summit of the Astana process demonstrated the "increasing isolation" of Russia. It seems to me that isolation, like logic, either exists or it does not exist. To date, there is no isolation of Moscow, and washington's logic. This, unfortunately, is a series of illogical statements that we hear from the United States.

Regarding the fact that Russia is turning to Iran because it is "isolated. I have only one question. George Kirby and in general in Washington, in the camp of the Democratic Party, in principle, know that the Astana format existed before. Do they know? Meetings and sessions were held at different levels, including until February 2022. Was that a signal too? Then it is necessary to explain what Russia wanted to show or demonstrate with these summits, meetings, meetings at the level of foreign ministers or experts. That's absurd. The Astana format deals with certain problems. It met at various levels, held meetings in 2022 and before. Just as the visits of President Vladimir Putin to Iran and the leaders of the Islamic Republic to Russia were carried out. When the leaders of our states, the heads of foreign policy and defence ministries need to hold a meeting in various formats, they do it. It doesn't matter what representatives of the State Department, the White House, and high-ranking experts think about it. If we are talking about bilateral summits and visits, this is done in the interests of the peoples of the two countries. The Astana format has its own declared problems.

I can even predict how the situation will develop. The U.S. and the people voicing the current White House policy will have two concepts. As soon as there is a visit or meeting of Russian representatives with anyone, regardless of the context, they will say that this is the "isolation" of Russia. When it will be impossible to assert such a thing in view of the successful results of these events for the whole world, they will say: "It means that Russia has now turned to someone else due to isolation", "has deployed its policy", etc. All this is from impotence, from the fact that Joe Biden's team has led US foreign policy to a dead end, the only way out of which will be to turn around and go back. In this case, you will have to admit the fallacy of the chosen course. I don't remember being able to admit their own mistakes in the United States. It is easier for them to stand in a dead end, in front of a wall where they have driven themselves, and repeat absurd, illogical things.

Today I have already commented on the words of the representative of the State Department about the lack of opportunity for negotiations with Russia on Ukraine. Somehow it is not very clear: has the United States already recognized itself as a party to negotiations or conflict? As we have already said, we know, and Washington does not hide it, that everything was done to block the Kiev regime's negotiations with Russia. Let them explain themselves on this topic.

Yes, the Outlaw US Empire is at a dead end created by itself as myself and others have described. The only real escape is to retreat, but the repeated doubling-down of scrambling up the vertical walls of the box canyon they've marched into gives the same results as a hamster on its treadmill or worse.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2022 15:54 utc | 71

@Jen #9
There is an enormous cottage industry of people seeking to get think tank positions or grants; publishing garbage like Putin's health, or Putin's cosmetic surgery, or Putin's psychological issues is just one of the avenues by which such charlatans get paid.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2022 15:58 utc | 72

re: grain export agreement

summary

https://nitter.net/RWApodcast/status/1550493697283948545#m

btw I don't agree with RWA that it is a mistake. Relevant parties brought together by UN (in particular EU) agreed in front of UN to remove impediments to RF grain export to nonaligned countries, ie procedural harassment of some of the shippers via insurance and so forth. They may quite possibly break their promises as they have before, and of course misrepresent it. But if so, they would fool nobody this way, and it would be unambiguously on them to explain to the global-south nations who would suffer the harm.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 22 2022 16:00 utc | 73

re: grain export agreement

summary

https://nitter.net/RWApodcast/status/1550493697283948545#m

btw I don't agree with RWA that it is a mistake. Relevant parties brought together by UN (in particular EU) agreed in front of UN to remove impediments to RF grain export to nonaligned countries, ie procedural harassment of some of the shippers via insurance and so forth. They may quite possibly break their promises as they have before, and of course misrepresent it. But if so, they would fool nobody this way, and it would be unambiguously on them to explain to the global-south nations who would suffer the harm.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 22 2022 16:00 utc | 74

Posted by: jonku | Jul 22 2022 10:00 utc | 7

Cubans fighting in the South of Africa!

Not only fighting, defeating the apartheid state.

Fidel is a huge personality, a full chapter of world history while all the midgets around him, -include in that group a dozen US presidents- will be no more that foot notes.


Posted by: Paco | Jul 22 2022 16:05 utc | 75

U.K. taxpayers are paying for these clowns to come up with this fiction. They think they are clever but this constant lying is undermining confidence in our government and system. Voter apathy and a military recruitment shortfall are two immediate consequences.

My prediction is that President Putin will be viewed by history as one of the greater leaders Russia has had. Possibly on the same level as Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. On his watch, Russia fixed herself after being almost made into a western colony under Yeltsin.

Johnson, Biden, Van der Leyden, Schulz, Macron et al will just be footnotes in history. They will be like the Bad Emperors who get talked about during Roman history.

Posted by: Stephen | Jul 22 2022 16:05 utc | 76

China and Russia are both stupid that is why they are twisted around on fingers by the anglo pirate race.

IN 2008 Russia and china had the opportunity to destroy IMF and world bank and the american -british system of looting the world ;but foolishly these two countries ,on prompting from parasite england, recommended IMF and world bank to lead new economic system! How stupid of these countries and that is why they never go up in world because of their stupidity.
therefore china and russia must prepare for war which is coming there way-but these stupid countries are allowing anglosaxon to win in libya and now in syria on one pretext or another. Following the lead from anglos must Russia and china arm all those who oppose anglosaxon evil empire. and must Russia support insurrection in england and usa then have those countries bombed as anglos have done in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran etc?
Ofcourse not.
But what about the saying " what is good for the gander---"?

If China has any brain then China should immediately give 500 billion dollars to Russians to make in number all those new weapons immidiately and buy it or give free to Russia so that both China and russia can confront and kill angloamerican bullying.

If Russia had brain then she would order her economy as war economy and stop treating anglos anything but a pest to be eliminated. (and give s400 like things to Syria, Iran, Iraq to harass anglos, rather than placating turks who are as evil as anglos).
But will Russia do that? Its history of betraying allies like Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Belaruss, Syria (by not supplying s400) in last 8 years make it very doubtful.

Posted by: Soi | Jul 22 2022 16:06 utc | 77

@Soi #78
As you clearly cannot understand the difference between Russia and China's position vs. the US and the rest of the world in 2008 vs. today, there is no point in trying to disabuse you of your Strelkovian fantasies.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2022 16:16 utc | 78

@Pavi #47
Cell phones are even worse than that.
If you can identify a handful of cell phones used by members of a military formation, you can then identify all the rest of the ones used by other members of the formation.
And movement of said cell phones en masse gives extremely accurate and timely data on actual movement of the unit.
All you need for this is a stingray.
There's a reason why any moderately intelligent military service bans all use of cell phones for any military unit remotely associated with combat or combat-critical function.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2022 16:20 utc | 79

To me, the purpose of these articles is to equate Russian state with Putin. If he’s ill, he’ll die soon, and everything will be hunky dory. See?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jul 22 2022 16:24 utc | 80

Interesting, yet ignores the.....

Jewish hereditary is based purely on the maternal side.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jul 22 2022 14:22 utc | 46

Well, my wife is Jewish and a DNA company reported correctly that she has Ashkenazi genes and… that her ancestors left Middle East 30k years ago. Yes, 30 thousand.

Posted by: RB | Jul 22 2022 16:26 utc | 81

All you need for this is a stingray.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2022 16:20 utc | 80

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Even less. A cheap Software Defined Radio dongle and some software will do.

https://boingboing.net/2018/11/16/grgsm_livemon.html

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 16:40 utc | 82

Well, my wife is Jewish and a DNA company reported correctly that she has Ashkenazi genes and… that her ancestors left Middle East 30k years ago. Yes, 30 thousand.

Posted by: RB | Jul 22 2022 16:26 utc | 82

Which begs the question, how would they know? Since they do not have an accurate or comprehensive DNA distribution map of 30,000 years ago.

These ancestral DNA reports are spit out by a computer and I expect the "programmers" relied on this speculative bit of "research".

https://damienmarieathope.com/2017/10/genetic-studies-on-jewish-dna-is-not-6000-years-old-but-has-origin-links-to-about-20000-to-30000-years-ago/?v=32aec8db952d

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 22 2022 16:44 utc | 83

how would they know?
@Opport Knocks | Jul 22 2022 16:44 utc | 84

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Mitochondrial DNA from hair and bones. Plus statistical regression from a huge dataset.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 16:58 utc | 84

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jul 22 2022 16:44 utc | 84

Well, I doubt that the Jews in Judea 2-3k ago had Ashkenazi genes. They were not white people. If true it would support the thesis that Ashkenazi have ancestors who converted at some point in the past.

Posted by: RB | Jul 22 2022 17:10 utc | 85

Shoigu is now a diplomat, "Russia, Ukraine Sign UN-Mediated Grain Deal in Istanbul":

"Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar and Ukrainian Infrastructure Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov signed a UN-brokered grain deal in Istanbul on Friday.

"Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said that two documents were signed in Istanbul aimed at solving the issue of food and grain exports to the global market."

But first Ukraine must demine its ports and their approaches which will take several weeks if not a whole month. And then we'll see if its Master allows any exports to occur. We're also likely to see NATO test the incoming ship inspection regime by smuggling weapons and munitions.

IMO, it's very odd that Shoigu would be the Russian official chosen to sign these accords.

In related happenings, Lavrov wrote an article on Russian-African relations, "Article by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov for the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram, the Congolese Dispatch de Brazzaville, the Ugandan New Vision, as well as the Ethiopian Ethiopia Herald, July 22, 2022" in English and is thus available for all to read at the link. Here's a taste:

The development of a comprehensive partnership with African countries remains among the top priorities of Russia's foreign policy. We are willing to contribute to its further growth - in line with the strategic decisions taken in late October 2019 at the first Russia-Africa Summit in Sochi.

At the same time, I would specially emphasize: our country does not impose anything on anyone or tells others how to live. We treat with great respect the sovereignty of the States of Africa, and their inalienable right to determine the path of their development for themselves. We are firmly committed to the "African solutions to African problems" principle. Such an approach to developing inter-State ties dramatically differs from the "master – slave" logic imposed by former metropolitan countries, which reproduces the obsolete colonial model.

We know that the African colleagues does not approve of the undisguised attempts of the US and their European satellites to gain the upper hand, and to impose a unipolar world order to the international community. We appreciate the considered African position as to the situation in and around Ukraine. Although unprecedented by its scale the pressure from beyond has not brought our friends to join the anti-Russian sanctions. Such an independent path deserves deep respect.

It's interesting to read Lavrov's words here then his reply at yesterday's presser to a question about the EU's behavior, which I'll examine in another comment.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2022 17:16 utc | 86

What is this Jewish talk and DNA all about? If you scan the people of Jordan and the Lebanon, they will most likely yield exactly the same DNA results, bar those taken from exiled Jews who arrived since 1947 from all over the world. All this stuff about thinking that the Jews are a people or human race is baffling and some sort of mix-up between religion, the various people (sic!) that lived in ancient Judea and the modern state of Israel. Perhaps one should shed this essentially Nazi thought of the Jews being some sort of coherent race/species/power aimed at ruling the world or dominating others, to get a clearer picture of the matter, no?

BTW, no disrespect or insult intended.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jul 22 2022 17:25 utc | 87

@too scents #83
An SDR and dongle can get you access to the signal; decoding the encrypted signal is a different story entirely.
That article was written with 3G or less in mind; signals have been encrypted since 4G came out.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 22 2022 17:31 utc | 88

karlof1@87...Shoigu is the Big Boss, with the Hot Sauce. He sets the rules vis a vis, who and what sails in and out of Odessa. I'd hope Russia maintains tight control otherwise it'll be a new resupply route for Ukrainians holed up in Odessa.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 22 2022 17:33 utc | 89

Lavrov's presser transcript after his meeting with Hungary's FM records only one Q&A in both the English and Russian versions, so here's the English link. Here's the Q:

"Question: Over the past year, we can see a trend that is dividing the European countries into two groups: the countries that follow Brussels’ policy and the countries that act in their national interests, like Hungary, for example. The latter often win. Don’t you think that the EU in its current form hinders the development of its member countries more than it contributes to it?"

Much of Lavrov's answer we've seen before as it reiterates the Ukrainian issue since the 2014 coup. But I hope barflies will take notice of the other points he makes regarding how Russia conducts its foreign relations, which you'll have read in the comments by Maria Zakharova I supplied yesterday. Lavrov has spoken the following words dozens of times now, although they get churned around to seem fresh. And although he doesn't overtly say so, he implies the EU's been subordinate to the Outlaw US Empire since the Kosovo debacle, if not earlier:

Sergey Lavrov: I’m not going to dig deep into the EU’s internal development agenda. We read what is written about it. We hear what they say, including in the EU member countries. I can only state that the situation isn’t simple.

There is an ongoing battle. The European bureaucracy wants to subjugate everything and everyone, including national governments, dictate the terms and cut short any dissent. On the other hand, some member countries want to understand how much of its mandate it is using for their benefit, and how much of it represents abuse and is a matter of concern. This is the EU’s internal matter.

I want to make one simple thing clear. We are now seeing the reaction of the West (primarily, that of Brussels and many European capitals) to what is happening in Ukraine. Let me remind you that for many years, in our relations with the European Union, we have been pushing to create an equal and mutually beneficial architecture, including on foreign policy issues. We had some success, but the EU has always been haughty about our attempts to build a balance of interests, preferring instead to make decisions on its own and then impose them on us as the ultimate truth.

The same goes for Ukraine. This didn’t start in February. There was a coup. Right before that, EU representatives (France, Germany and Poland) guaranteed that there would be an agreement between the Ukrainian president and the opposition and signed the corresponding guarantees. The next morning, these guarantees were trampled on and torn apart, and the EU said nothing. It did not call on the putschists to honour the obligations signed by the EU.

The Minsk agreements were signed a year later. France and Germany were also guarantors, but Kiev bluntly refused to fulfil the agreements. Recently, Petr Poroshenko admitted that he had signed them but had no intention of honouring them. He explained that it was necessary to gain time for Ukraine to receive new weapons. An open and cynical statement. At that time, the EU tacitly connived in the subversion of the Minsk agreements by Kiev. Likewise, there was no response to Poroshenko’s candid admission. This is a disgrace for serious states that want to deal with important foreign policy challenges.

Now we are hearing hysterical statements about the violation of all thinkable standards of international humanitarian law and about the killing of people. This is true, people are dying, but it is necessary to face the truth and stop brushing aside the facts showing that people are primarily killed by the absolutely senseless shelling of civilian districts in Donbass and other parts of Ukraine by the Ukrainian armed forces and nationalist battalions. Second, I would like to ask the journalists (this is easy to do in our IT age) to look at how the EU reacted over the past eight years to the deaths of thousands of civilians due to shelling by the Ukrainian authorities at a time when the Minsk agreements were still valid and gave hope for peace in Ukraine sometime in the future. There was no response at all. They just said that this was their country and they had the right to not engage in any dialogue with Donetsk and Lugansk. None of us has heard any condemnation of what the Ukrainian military was doing.

This attitude to one’s own guarantees as regards the Minsk agreements does not apply just to Ukraine. The EU and its bureaucrats behaved exactly the same way as regards the Kosovo problem. Almost 10 years ago, the EU started acting as a mediator between Pristina and Belgrade at the request of the UN General Assembly. A document on creating a community of Serb-majority municipalities in Kosovo was coordinated in 2013 following these talks. Under the plan, it was decided to establish municipalities in the north of the territory that was mostly populated by Serbs. This was done to grant Serbs elementary rights in Kosovo – language, religion, culture, and economic ties with Serbia. The Minsk agreements contained almost the same provisions on the rights of Donbass in the state of Ukraine.

Pristina buried the agreement on the community of Serb municipalities. The EU has not expressed its attitude towards this outrageous behavior by its mentees.

I have the right to talk about the EU’s foreign policy because they were active in areas that are part of the international community agenda. It is sad to see how the EU is following the US-specified road – the collective West must be united; no step back, left or right; only forward to where their senior partner points.

I can only hope that the EU can overcome the current difficulties. Nobody is interested in a crisis in Europe. There are countries emphasising that their policy will be determined by their own national interests. They do not want to lose their national identity, culture, religion and traditions, including how to bring up children in families. I hope this fair and natural desire will prevail and be respected. This is the main point today.

In the military, you're told you're not to obey illegal orders. Yet, what we've seen from all too many nations for far too long is exactly that behavior. And of course, we get commentators here who pooh-pooh the entire idea that nations and people should be law-abiding; that anarchy and chaos are preferable. Some think we don't notice and hang around. As Russia, China, and a host of other nations are demonstrating, it's quite possible to be party to a bloc without being bloc-like--Cold War thinking/acting as the Chinese describe. The world as those nations proclaim is NOT Animal Farm where all animals are equal but some are more equal than others. The EU/NATO and their Master promote Animal Farm ism. Simply stated, such ideas and behaviors aren't civil, are child-bully-like, and don't belong in a maturing world whatsoever.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2022 17:47 utc | 90

@c1ue | Jul 22 2022 17:31 utc | 89

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There are many attacks.

https://revolte-attack.net/

Securely re-connecting a packet network is a very difficult problem.

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 17:47 utc | 91

Churchill had two major heart attacks during WWII one of them at the White House.

Putin is not indispensable which is why he has the Stavka

British tabloids reduce everything to the personal to make the dimwits who read their trash feel in control

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jul 22 2022 18:00 utc | 92

RB [82]

How do you know your wife is Jewish if you are not .

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jul 22 2022 18:03 utc | 93

If you ride a bicyle or a Bear to keep fit, it is better to fall off the Bicycle.
Joe Tzu.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jul 22 2022 14:48 utc | 54

The Great Leader falling to the earth is a sign to the People of impending Reality looming. Joe Tzu

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 18:17 utc | 94

Posted by: too scents | Jul 22 2022 15:25 utc | 65

I find that gov.uk link about food stocks post Brexit an overly serious response to a playful comment. Though I must add: there is no lack of magical thinking at gov.uk generally speaking!

THey use tranquillizer darts on elephants and lions? Why not on Tories and oligarchs?

I rest my case!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 18:21 utc | 95

Its surprising indeed, that obsession with Putin. Apparently they can't think of anything more
Posted by: DutchZ | Jul 22 2022 15:40 utc | 69

50% of propaganda is to give people the wrong idea.
50% is to keep people from becoming informed or thinking about important matters, ie its distraction.

Items about Putin's mania or illness achieve both purposes rather nicely. It's just good old basic BS and nothing to get one's knickers twisted over. And remember: most people don't read that stuff and don't think about it for more than a second if they glance at it as a headline held up by passenger across from them on the tube or the 55 bus.

However, most of them do get the message one way or another: 'these things are above and beyond your ken; our lives depend upon the actions of those who do not know and cannot influence, be they foreign leaders like Putin or our own national officials. So we must do the best we can, not rock the boat, look after our own, keep our head down and not get involved in things above our station.'

Only if it gets really hard to put food on the table will they begin to think a little harder and nine times out of ten when that happens there are trained, prepared bolshevik revolutionary types ready to use your fear and anger to create the next iteration of a corrupt society.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 18:28 utc | 96

Well, I doubt that the Jews in Judea 2-3k ago had Ashkenazi genes. They were not white people. If true it would support the thesis that Ashkenazi have ancestors who converted at some point in the past.

Posted by: RB | Jul 22 2022 17:10 utc | 86

Anything which Ashkenazi say about Ashkenazi history and genes should be taken with heavy doses of Dead Sea Salt - the Kosher variety of course!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 18:43 utc | 97

@CM Berlin
yes it's an idea left over from the grand idea of 19th century 'racialism', which originally was used to have a fundamental explain the superiority of British (and later French and German) civilization. This in turn justified their hegemony over the world at the time.

Scientists went about making measurements of all kinds, and within about 30-40 years -- the time it took to track what happened to identical twins separated at birth -- debunked the whole thing, as far as "nature vs nurture" was concerned. It's 95% "nurture". That was around turn of that century not long before WWI.

But the empire of that time, wasn't ready to accept the implications of the idea, so the idea held on.

Likewise, despite the spectacle of lip service to diversity in some very superficial ways, modern Western culture on many levels takes for granted today that we're born or raised better in some way. I suppose this is common thinking for anyone who inherited some kind of power over their near or distant neighbors.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 22 2022 18:44 utc | 98

IMO, it's very odd that Shoigu would be the Russian official chosen to sign these accords.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 22 2022 17:16 utc | 87

Perhaps it's because this has more to do with a combined security operation guaranteeing passage of goods through a particular body of water (Black Sea) rather than being a State to State treaty. Lavrov has a lot on his plate right now and is operating at a very high, statesmanlike level and is widely perceived as such. It is the military who are going to execute all this and no doubt there are thickets of thorny details to coordinate.

Personally, I don't see why they bother. There is very little Ukrainian grain that needs to be exported by sea at this point and Europe could absorb it all. Meanwhile RF can supply Africa. But no doubt am missing something...

Posted by: Scorpion | Jul 22 2022 18:47 utc | 99

@myself 99
(... continuing)
The same logic, the logic of justifying power, is strangely enough also appealing to the powerless. If you want to sell someone on the idea that they could turn the tables on their someone oppressors, an easy way to do it is on the basis of some real or even completely imaginary blood ties, which per the mythology, will result in the 1000 year kingdom, or what have you.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 22 2022 18:52 utc | 100

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