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June 9, 2022
Washington Starts Blame Game Over Defeat In Ukraine

The New York Times, here via Yahoo, has some rather weird piece over alleged lack of intelligence on Ukrainian warplanes:

U.S. Lacks a Clear Picture of Ukraine's War Strategy, Officials Say

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine has provided near-daily updates of Russia’s invasion on social media; viral video posts have shown the effectiveness of Western weapons in the hands of Ukrainian forces; and the Pentagon has regularly held briefings on developments in the war.

But despite the flow of all this news to the public, U.S. intelligence agencies have less information than they would like about Ukraine’s operations and possess a far better picture of Russia’s military, its planned operations and its successes and failures, according to current and former officials.

Governments often withhold information from the public for operational security. But these information gaps within the U.S. government could make it more difficult for the Biden administration to decide how to target military aid as it sends billions of dollars in weapons to Ukraine.

Avril D. Haines, the director of national intelligence, testified at a Senate hearing last month that “it was very hard to tell” how much additional aid Ukraine could absorb.

She added: “We have, in fact, more insight, probably, on the Russian side than we do on the Ukrainian side.”

One key question is what measures Zelenskyy intends to call for in Donbas. Ukraine faces a strategic choice there: withdraw its forces or risk having them encircled by Russia.

Andrei Martyanov rants about the piece:

Well, NYT decided to start steering clear of this whole Russia "lost in Ukraine" BS it promoted together with neocon crazies, and begins this ever familiar tune of the "intel failure". Right.

U.S. Lacks a Clear Picture of Ukraine's War Strategy, Officials Say

Hm, how about I put it bluntly–the U.S. never had clear picture on anything, especially on Russia, or, as a private case, [the Special Military Operation] and completely bought into Ukie propaganda, which shows a complete incompetence of the "intel" in the US.

The narrative on [the Special Military Operation], in reality, is dead and the failure is not being set, it already happened. It is a fait accompli no matter how one wants to put a lipstick on the pig.

Larry Johnson thinks there is another another motive behind the story:

Frankly, I find it hard to believe that there are not solid analysts at the Defense Intelligence Agency who know the answers to all these questions. The real problem may not be a lack of intelligence. Nope. It is the fear of telling the politicians hard truths they do not want to hear.

Given the billions of dollars the United States is spending on “intelligence” collection systems, it is time for the Congress and the American public to demand that the intelligence services do their damn job.

I do not believe for one moment that U.S. intelligence services do not know what is going on in Ukraine and in Kiev. They know that the Ukraine has lost the war and will have to sue for peace as soon as possible.

They also have told the White House that this is a case and that the whole idea of setting up the Ukraine to tickle the Russian bear was idiotic from the get go. The question now is who will take the blame for the outcome. Who can the buck be passed to?

There is always the option for politicians,  as Andrei assumes is the case, to blame the intelligence and the various agencies which provide it. This was done when the war on Iraq, based on false claims weapons of mass destruction, started to go bad for the U.S.

But what the NYT piece does is passing the buck from the intelligence community to president Zelensky of Ukraine: "He did not inform us about the bad position his country was in."

It is cover your ass time and Zelensky prominence in the 'west' makes it possible to blame him personally for the outcome of the war.

On May 31 the Council of Foreign Relations, with its head Richard Haass, had a public discussion about the state of the war in Ukraine. One of the participants was the former Deputy Commander of the United States European Command Stephen M. Twitty. He knows and makes absolutely clear where the war stands:

TWITTY: I think the war in the Donbas is starting to turn to the Russians’ favor, and when you take a look at—and I’m particularly talking about the eastern part of the Donbas—the Russians have transitioned from trying to pour all their combat power into the Donbas to obliterating every single town. Whether it be Rubizhne, Lyman, they’re working now on Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk as well, they’re obliterating these particular towns, and that’s how they’re making their headway. They’re not putting a bunch of combat power with infantry forces and tanks in there. They’ve taken all their artillery and they’re treating it like Mariupol and that’s how they’re making their headway. So they’re starting to make some headway in the eastern Donbas and so we have to watch that one closely.

HAASS: … Why don’t we reverse [our policies]? General Twitty, is there something that the president said? Are things we’re not doing that we should be doing? Is there things that you would recommend at this point?

TWITTY: Well, as I take a look at this, you know, Secretary Austin came out that we’re going to weaken Russia. We have not really defined what weaken means, because if you take a look at the Ukrainians right now, I take a strong belief in Colin Powell’s doctrine—you overwhelm a particular enemy with force. And right now, when you take a look at Ukraine and you take a look at Russia, they’re about one to one. The only difference is Russia has a heck of a lot of combat power than the Ukrainians.

And so there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the Russians, and so we got to really figure out what does weaken mean in the end state here. And I will also tell you, Richard, there’s no way that the Ukrainians will ever have enough combat power to kick the Russians out of Ukraine as well, and so what does that look like in the end game.

There follows some discussion with other participants about potential outcomes the U.S. would like to see, like Ukraine in the state that it was in before 2014.

Twitty then explains why those ideas are all unrealistic and that what is needed instead are immediate negotiations:

TWITTY: Yeah. So I got a couple of things for you, Richard. So I want to go back to what you said. Pre-2014—I want you to think about that one, because I’ve had time to think about it hearing others here, and what I will tell you, Richard, you know, I learned from the National War College there’s something called ends, ways, and means.

So if that’s your end state—pre-2014—then I’m interested to hear the ways and the means because, from a military standpoint, if that’s the way then the means would be the Ukrainians lack, again, the ability to pull that off to pre-2014. They just lack that ability. They don’t have the combat power.

And I also want to remind you we hear a lot about Russian casualties and Russian losses. We hear very little about Ukrainian losses, and keep in mind they’re losing soldiers throughout this war as well. They started at approximately two hundred thousand. Who knows where they are today?

And so it’s hard to recruit and maintain that level of professionalism in that military. So that’s my first point. The end, ways, and means, they lack that, to be able to go back to the pre-2014.

The second point that I would make is, you know, as you look at the DIME—diplomatic, informational, military, and economic—we’re woefully lacking on the diplomatic piece of this. If you notice, there’s no diplomacy going on at all to trying to get to some type of negotiations. And I don’t think that we can lead that, given where Putin thinks about us.

But if you sit back and think about those that could possibly be a part of this negotiation team, you know, you have the—two of them are in—that I’m going to list are in NATO. One is President Orbán out of Hungary. Perhaps he can help out in the negotiation effort. The other one is President Erdoğan of Turkey. Longtime friends of President Putin, although some view that relationship as transactional. I don’t know. Let’s put it to the test and see.

Someone objects and makes a case for 'giving the Ukraine more time' by pushing more weapons to them. Twitty dismantles that argument:

TWITTY: —Charlie, I agree 100 percent. But I will tell you, when you look at time, the Ukrainians have to go into negotiations with the upper hand at a position of strength, and so right now they are at a position of strength. The more this war goes on we never know if that’s going to wane, and then they will lack the ability to go to the bargaining table at a position of strength and may lose more than they intended, and so let’s keep that in mind as well.

There it is. The professional military and intelligence people know exactly what is up. The Ukraine is already in a very bad situation and from here on it can only get worse. They expect that the Ukrainian frontline will break down.  I am sure they are urging, like Twitty does above, for immediate negotiations using whatever third party is available.

It is the White House for which such an outcome is not what it had hoped to achieve. It can in fact not allow it. It is currently blocking any negotiations because admitting to a loss in Ukraine would give the Republicans more ammunition to damage Biden.

Yves Smith detects some signs that, behind the curtains, some direct negotiations between Ukraine and Russia are actually taking place:

We may know in due course, but this development, even if these talks are more at the feeler stage, is proof that Zelensky is losing power. Recall that there has already been some chatter about a possible military coup. And it is hardly uncommon for the senior officials of a leader on the ropes to start negotiating with the other side, both out of the best interests of their country and to improve their odds of survival.

So that is a long winded way of saying that Zelensky may not have altered his stance, but that instead he is no longer driving the train. And it may also be that some in the Ukraine government are also trying to get the UK’s and US’s hands off the wheel. It may be too early for that to happen, but if they keep trying to shore up Zelensky when his own senior staff (and the military) are turning against him, they could find they bet on the wrong horse. Again, I’m not saying this is a likely outcome, but the fact that it is even conceivable is a big change in the state of play.

Passing the buck to Zelensky, to then have him removed from this planet, may indeed be the best outcome for the White House … and for Ukraine.

Comments

Scott Ritter has become a mouth piece for US propaganda and that is a fact. I have read him and others for a long time and see the subtle changes in their stories. He is not a military man, but US intelligence and weapons inspector.
In his role as nuclear inspector in Iran, he always pointed out that Iran was abiding by all regulations imposed on them. He knew his country would never lift sanctions against Iran; just like today. He never once blamed the Jews who always controlled the negotiations.
I can name many like Ritter and will, when their backsliding views are brought up.
Some clown above talked about Russia not being able to sell to Europe due to this or that sanctions. They all keep falling back on fewer and fewer threats.
Europe needs Russia to survive. Russia exports to China alone to date is 50% more than last year. That will go above 250% by the end of the year. That is just 1 country. Africa, south America and all of Asia trade will triple. Iran , India and the rest.
Russia doesn’t need the west. In fact they seem to be doing much better without them, and the west ain’t feeling the real economic pain just yet. I think it’s called depression.

Posted by: Karl luck | Jun 10 2022 18:13 utc | 401

I’m sorry if someone else has postulated this outcome before. But what seems to be necessary at this point for the global west junta is a larger distraction. The problem is, each distraction has to be more sensational than the last. What will it be this time, the death of a president? Would the thugs who run the show “Epstein “ Biden to make us forget and forgive “his” mistakes in Ukraine?
Most of our national institutions are secondary on the global stage, our elections a mere sideshow for our distraction. Therefore available for manipulation. Institutions outside of representational democracy are in power and it has never been more obvious. Our institutions serve this power directly. We just have to get used to it, since it is clear we will do nothing to oppose it.

Posted by: Mouthbreather Say | Jun 10 2022 18:20 utc | 402

Re Insanity
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2022 14:06 utc | 377
Just wait until they institute sanctions prohibiting unfriendly countries from owning T- bills.
Cheers!

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 10 2022 18:21 utc | 403

My advice: buy a used Prius. We have two 2004 models still getting 50mpg.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 0:47 utc | 226
Thanks, karlof1. I’ve used public transportation (we have it way out here) before my son came back – we lucked into an ancient Saturn then through Trump’s stimulus so during covid could keep to a semi-isolated regime. Son has become an amateur automechanic thanks to internet goodfellows; and now, with those gas prices on the upsurge, we’re compensating bit by bit — back to public transportation for me part time, and an electric teakettle — I love walking, so there’s that too, besides my natural hermit tendencies. Teensy adjustments, but so far they work… car has its ups and downs but when it’s good it’s very very good.
Remembering back to intense arguments pro and con public transport. It’s worked for me and I’ve been grateful to Governor Bill for the train. I think it is part of the Hudson makeover, a very small part on its single track, but better by far than nothing, the buses as well.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 10 2022 18:22 utc | 404

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Jun 10 2022 16:49 utc | 392
Looks like profit margins are geeting squeezed in the industrial food sector. Always brings out the accelerant.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 10 2022 18:27 utc | 405

On buying used Priuses. I made that mistake.
It is not a car. It is a computer with attached science project. You do not drive a Prius. You operate a Prius. You program a Prius.
No towing. No roof rack. Not allowed. […]
If you are mechanically inclined at all you will feel the time gap between the regenerative brakes shutting off and the friction brakes kicking in. During that time interval the car has no brakes whatsoever. Most won’t notice. I did not notice at first. Once noticed it becomes impossible to drive the car. …]
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 10 2022 13:41 utc | 371
No roof rack? How you explain this?
Concerning braking, I was never mechanically inclined, and I did drive for some number of years. Concerning towing… Yea, if you want to bring your pair of horse to some area for a horse ride, using a compact car to tow their trailer may be problematic, mercifully, many of them lack a hitch. As they say, “it went without a hitch”: for a plan to succeed, you avoid towing. Get yourself a flat bed truck or something.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 10 2022 18:28 utc | 406

As a matter of principle death sentences are barbaric.
Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 9 2022 17:34 utc | 65
Picking issue with the word death, not sentence: There is no higher honor for a soldier [of fortune in this case] to die on the battlefield. This is the life he chose for himself. Let him die for that choice, and let’s call it battlefield.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 10 2022 19:50 utc | 407

I’m no longer paying any attention whatsoever to anything Ritter says. He is cherry-picking his “facts”
@: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2022 6:40 utc | 295
Your frank assessment is much appreciated. Your work here is very much appreciated in general, at least by me — but I follow my own peculiar habit of evaluating writers by what they write (as you fairly did, for Ritter, in your detailed post), rather than by gossipy, irrelevant, unsubstantiated third-hand opinions about a writer’s character. Let me hear what they said, read what they wrote, and make up my own mind.
Thank you very much.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 10 2022 20:14 utc | 408

Think you have a Joe Tzu observation there RKJ
@ Jpc | Jun 10 2022 10:19 utc | 327
I hope someone’s compiling them. We need a coffee-table book for these gems, amidst calming sepia watercolors of birds and bamboo…

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 10 2022 20:30 utc | 409

I mean, how contradictory can you get? One minute he says “Russia can win”, the next he says “it will take forever” which by implication means Russia can’t win. So which is it? It’s ridiculous.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2022 9:41 utc | 323
Early on in his interviews, Ritter stated that he was still under contract to the US military (marines I guess?) and as a result there were things he could not discuss as per his agreements.
Perhaps this makes it impossible for him to express what he may or may not know and this of course has to mess with his head.
I don’t watch him any more, not any other commenters on the progress of the war, as the daily briefings are good enough for me, and I’m not pro or against him, it just makes sense that he is compromised since he made the disclaimer himself.

Posted by: K | Jun 10 2022 22:24 utc | 410

by what they write (as you fairly did, for Ritter, in your detailed post), rather than by gossipy, irrelevant, unsubstantiated third-hand opinions about a writer’s character. Let me hear what they said, read what they wrote, and make up my own mind.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 10 2022 20:14 utc | 407
There is such a thing as instinct or gut feeling. Its useful for the animal (humans) to identify potentially dangerous predators and such.
To ignore such warnings and disdainfully call them “gossip” is not healthy. Such instincts are not attacks on a suspicious person’s character, they are simply the body’s warning signals. What we do with that is up to us. However if we ignore it consistently enough it stops working and when we need it is gone. Case in point the public’s susceptibility to the MSM.
I have no such gut feelings about Ritter, he may be off track be he is not lying. (according to my BS meter) I do have such instincts about other commenters so I avoid them, not because I have “evidence” LOL the very concept about a You Tube personality makes me laugh, but because I don’t enjoy receiving my commentary while my senses are uneasy about the speaker.
its simple. Human Instinct cannot and does not require proof. Who has time when waking up suddenly and smelling smoke in the house? Or hearing a loud noise downstairs. Our own senses most often provide the proof we need for action, not some external head nods from people who believe that Reason is God.
From your posts, I don’t believe that you are such a person in general but this post was condescending.

Posted by: K | Jun 10 2022 23:08 utc | 411

waouw , 410 commentaires !

Posted by: malamatias | Jun 11 2022 1:15 utc | 412

Are you really still validating the “cloak of incompetence” excuse? I’m starting to wonder if all those detractors saying you’re a limited hangout contractor don’t have a reasonable assumption to do so. What is the point of claiming credibility on sophisticated matters when you embrace this freshman level ridiculousness. What’s next, are you going to try to give credence to the Gonzalo Lira PsyOp? Pathetic

Posted by: MrChristian | Jun 11 2022 5:28 utc | 413

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 9 2022 19:47 utc | 119
“You obviously know fuck all…” is such absolutely classic troll-speak that we are assuming for the moment that you are not a troll or you would avoid it. We are also ignoring you. If you have knowledge to contribute please share it with a concise sentence or two and a link, preferably a non-obfuscated link.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jun 11 2022 5:28 utc | 414

US “intelligence” agencies are predominantly staffed by the very same contractors who make up the military industrial complex. You can think of them as the marketing arm of the MIC. Reference Kevin Shipp’s Shadow Government.
Politicians just do what they are told by their sponsors (the MIC) and the intelligence agencies (also the MIC).
The NYT is the intel agencies megaphone, they use it to change the narrative. Since the intel agencies are (in theory) a branch of government the MIC is not responsible.
I follow Martyanov closely and think he is largely correct about US intelligence failures on Russia, especially as the driving force behind actions in Ukraine since (and even before) the CIA coup. As stated above, “intelligence failures” are actually evidence of planning and control by the MIC.
As for Larry Johnson, who I also respect, he does not make the connection between the intel agencies and the MIC and credits too much influence to politicians who are driven by MIC lobbyists and MIC propaganda. We are far past the point where politicans in the U$ are going to “fix” anything (other than elections).

Posted by: Black Cloud | Jun 11 2022 17:47 utc | 415

During WW2, the Germans sometimes trumpeted the successes of their allies Italy, Rumania, Finland or Hungary, but looking at the old Wochenschau newsreels you never see huzzahs for the sad units they recruited from starving desperate Soviet PWs to make up ‘Russian Liberation Army’ and the rest. Vichy was the legal government of France but the Germans didn’t have any regard for Ukrainian collaborators. Likewise, the British and French in 1939 were quite cognizant that Poland was far from being a ‘plucky little democracy’ The American neocons would appear to have been taken in by their own propaganda narrative.

Posted by: lazycat1984 | Jun 11 2022 20:15 utc | 416

@Tollef I had no idea about that conflict between England and Norway nor about the Russian assistance to Norway. I lived a few years in Norway and worked at BBS where my coffee break talk was always at odd with the office drones. I remember how I had spoiled the mood when their newspaper VG front paged the buying of the F35, stating there shall never be a flying JSF in the Norwegian skies. It was disheartening to see this beautiful land going down the Anglo American dead end. I ended up quitting the company. And the country.
I’d be glad to learn more about the two points you mentioned.

Posted by: Stephane | Jun 12 2022 7:04 utc | 417