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June 17, 2022

Ukraine - The U.S. Is Moving Towards Escalation

The catastrophic economic consequences of the 'western' proxy war with Russia are setting in. As a result the high inflation, caused by supply side constrains due to sanctions and far too much spending, will ruin the middle classes of many countries.

To those who did not wear blinders and who knew of the real economies of the 'west' and Russia this was very predictable and predicted:

The U.S. is pushing its European 'allies' to commit economic suicide by sanctioning everything Russia. The U.S. should be more careful. It is one of the biggest buyers of Russian oil and its aircraft industry depends on titanium from Russia. Russia surely knows who is trying to hurt it the most and it surely knows how, and has the means to, hurt back.

The hurt has not at all reached its peak. This winter will be very difficult for Europe. Poor countries are even worse off. Many will experience hunger crises and riots.

Today the Russian president Vladimir Putin held a speech at the Petersburg economic forum. The transcript isn't out yet but here are excerpts from a Twitter thread:

The Eurasianist @Russ_Warrior - 12:58 UTC · Jun 17, 2022

⚡President Putin at #SPIEF2022: "The United States, having declared victory in the Cold War, declared themselves the messengers of God on earth, who have no obligations, but only interests. They seem not to notice that new powerful centers have formed on the planet"

Putin at #SPIEF2022: "The changes in the world are fundamental, pivotal and inexorable. And it is a mistake to believe that you can sit out at the time of rapid changes, wait out that supposedly everything will return to normal, everything will be as before. It won't!"
"There will be a deep degradation in Europe, current elites are going to be replaced" — President Putin at #SPIEF2022 "Their wrong policies will lead to an increase in nationalist and extremist sentiments in European society."
"The world was systematically driven into a huge global crisis by the countries of the so-called "G7" — President Putin at #SPIEF2022.
"The EU has totally lost its political sovereignty, its elites are dancing to someone else's tune, causing harm to their own population"
❗"Hunger in the poorest countries will be on the conscience of the West and the so-called European democracies" - President Putin at #SPIEF2022
"This problem has not arisen today, not in the last 3-4 months, and it is not #Russia's fault. We would be pleased to be so omnipotent. The situation has been getting worse for years, due to activities of those who planned to break trade flows," President Putin stressed
❗"Everyone who wants to continue to work/cooperate with Russia is being threatened by the United States" - President #Putin "However, this shows if real leaders are at the helm of a country or not", the president stressed.
"Russia is entering the coming era as a powerful sovereign country and only strong sovereign states can have their say in the emerging world order, or are doomed to remain or become a colony," President Putin concluded his speech at #SPIEF2022

Every word of that is true. Maybe Putin reads Moon of Alabama as I have made many of those points again and again.

It will not only be the current elite of Europe that will be replaced. The U.S. will see similar changes. Biden and the Democrats are toast:

The survey of 1,541 U.S. adults, which was conducted from June 10-13, found that if another presidential election were held today, more registered voters say they would cast ballots for Donald Trump (44%) than for Biden (42%) ...

Since Biden took office, no previous Yahoo News/YouGov poll has shown him trailing Trump (though Biden’s most recent leads have been within the margin of error, like this one is for Trump). One year ago, Biden led Trump by 9 percentage points. In 2020, Biden won the White House by more than 7 million votes.

Yet Biden’s job approval rating has been atrophying for much of the last year, and the new survey shows that it has never been weaker. A full 56% of Americans now disapprove of the president’s performance — the highest share to date — while just 39% approve. Three weeks ago, those numbers were 53% and 42%, respectively.

On average, Biden’s job approval scores are now a few points worse than Trump’s were at the parallel stage of his presidency.

Among all Americans, Trump (43%) now has a higher personal favorability rating than Biden (40%) as well. Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of independents (64%) have an unfavorable opinion of Biden, and just 28% say they would vote for him over Trump.

At Asia Times David Goldman sees signs of Biden changing course on Ukraine:

A compromise in Ukraine with significant territorial concessions to Russia – the only conceivable way to end the war – would humiliate Washington.

A negotiated solution to the Ukraine war, though, is not impossible. Washington could continue to portray itself as the defender of Ukraine’s sovereignty while encouraging European leaders to do the dirty work and force Ukraine into negotiations with Moscow.

A possible hint in this direction came on June 14 from the US Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Colin H. Kahl, who declared: “We’re not going to tell the Ukrainians how to negotiate, what to negotiate and when to negotiate. They’re going to set those terms for themselves.”
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The United States won’t tell Ukraine what to do, Undersecretary Kahl declared. But that doesn’t prevent other governments from making Zelensky an offer he can’t refuse. Zelensky adviser Oleksiy Arestovych told Germany’s Bild-Zeitung on June 16 that German Chancellor Scholz, French President Macron and Italian President Draghi might deliver such a demand to Zelensky during their current visit to Kyiv.

I hope that they did so. But today, without any announcement, the British prime minister Boris Johnson, undoubtedly on order of Biden, appeared in Kiev to lobby for more war just like he did at the end of March when he told Ukraine's president Zelensky to ditch the negotiations with Russia.

That is why I fear that Michael Brenner is right and that Biden will escalate the war by attacking somewhere else:

Necessity is the mother of invention — or so it is said. However, grasping what is “necessary” can be a very slippery business. An actual recasting of how one views a problematic situation normally is a last resort. Experience and history tell us that, as do behavioral experiments.
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So, you are stuck with the albatross of a truncated, bankrupt Ukraine hung around your neck. There is nothing that you can do to cancel these givens — except a direct, perhaps suicidal test of force with Russia. Or, perhaps, a retaliatory challenge elsewhere. The latter is not readily available — for geographic reasons and because the West already has expended its arsenal of economic and political weaponry.

Over the past year, the U.S. attempted to foment Maiden style regime changes in Belarus and Kazakhstan. Both were foiled. The latter was with the connivance of Turkey, which deployed a contingent of bashi bazouks from the stock of Syrian jihadis it keeps on call in Idlib (to be deployed as President Recep Erdogan did more successfully in Libya and Azerbaijan).

There remains one conceivable sensitive target: Syria. There, the Israelis have become increasingly audacious in goading the Russians by airstrikes against Syrian infrastructure as well as military facilities.

Now, we see signs that Moscow’s tolerance is wearing thin, suggesting that further provocations could spark retaliation which Washington then could exploit to ratchet up tensions. To what avail? Not obvious — unless the ultras in the Biden administration are looking for the kind of direct confrontation that they’ve avoided in Ukraine, until now.

The implication is that the denial option and the incremental adjustment option are foreclosed. Serious rethinking is in order — logically speaking.

The most worrisome scenario sees the frustration and anger and anxiety building in Washington to the point where it encourages a reckless impulse to demonstrate American prowess. That could take the form of an attack on Iran in the company of Israel and Saudi Arabia — the region’s new odd couple.

Another, even grimmer prospect would be a contrived test of wills with China. Already we see growing evidence of that in the bellicose rhetoric of American leaders from U.S. President Joe Biden on down.

The Pentagon is not ready for a war on China. Iran is too strong and would respond to an attack by launching its huge missile arsenal on Israel and U.S. allies in the Gulf. This leaves Syria. It is unlikely by chance that the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that the U.S. is coordinating Israeli airstrikes in that country:

WASHINGTON—Israel secretly coordinates with the U.S. on many of the airstrikes it carries out in Syria as the allies face a battlefield crowded with militant groups, Iranian-backed militias and foreign militaries, according to current and former U.S. officials.

I expect those airstrikes, like last week's attack on the airport of Damascus, to intensify with the hope to divert Russian attention from Ukraine.

Russia is of course 100% prepared for that but U.S. miscalculations that led to this are many and I do not expect that tendency to change anytime soon.

In his latest talk about The causes and consequences of the Ukraine war (vid) John Mearsheimer also speaks of why he thinks that an escalation is likely, and what the potential results might be. Without the Q&A it is only one hour long and well worth your time.

Posted by b on June 17, 2022 at 16:35 UTC | Permalink

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Tom12_12 @ 401

Your points are valid and carry much truth. I appreciate you mentioning Julian Assange, and I would put Assange in an elevated position of respect because he has put his life on the line to educate the people of the world. However, I never said that putting one's life on the line was the standard by which to judge anyone's achievements; that is your standard and a good one.

I will say that since the 1980's, I have rarely, if ever, seen Professor Chomsky on any mainstream news channel (although Democracy Now, on which he has appeared frequently, seems to be more mainstream/Democratic than ever). I think that is one piece of evidence to show that his beliefs were outside of the mainstream and a thorn in the side of channels of power.

As for the JFK/RFK/MLK, my fairly limited research has shown a thread connecting them all and many inconsistencies in the stories that I initially learned about them growing up. I do honestly wish Professor Chomsky had taken more time to investigate and include them in his construction of power in the US.

Every person has a different burden to bear, and I try to respect the burdens which each true challenger of the status quo has carried, even if those burden differ in terms of the life and death consequences for each person.

I didn't mean to be 'dramatic' or 'hyperbolic'...thanks for the tenor of your responses.

Posted by: Objective Observer | Jun 18 2022 18:54 utc | 401

Paul greenwood@363, am I to take it that you are defending magrat thatcher? Wow you must be well paid. Have you read over the official visitor logs that were released recently (for Chequers,I believe). If you had done this you would see her main visitor was that prince of philanthropy, INTIMATE Friend of royalty and "mentor to Prince Charles", Sir James Saville. The Downing Street visitor logs were considered too embarrassing for publication.
I would think the same of any adult who made such a statement. I mean don't you live in a society? Only a full grade moron or a "wrong un" ( British working class vernacular for a person of depraved morals) would make such a statement. You can't have indiduals without a society nor a society without individuals. Paul, these are tautologies so your expanded quote makes the sin greater. We all know she was not an idiot (degree in industrial chemistry) so she was a "wrong un" who facilitated Saville's reign of terror. Sadly this Saville boosterism was only one of her minor sins.

You should get a job as a fortune teller, if you can tell my attitude to the Biden/Harris monstrosity from that comment. Paul I am British and am hardly aware of these two cyphers, I literally couldn't give a damn about them. I can tell you don't live in Britain otherwise you would know , here, we live under the jack boot of interdimensional lizards and a pretty big jack boot it is lol.
Paul keep on batting for the pedos. If you do it for a long time I'm sure you will get your knighthood. Then you will stand with Sir James Saville and Sir Cyril Smith, illustrious company indeed.
All just to distract from karlof1's statement.

There is no Army of One

Posted by: Foxbat | Jun 18 2022 19:29 utc | 402

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 18 2022 17:40 utc | 390

Russian Х sounds way stronger than english H.

It sounds indeed like german CH or like spanish J.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 18 2022 20:00 utc | 403

Passeby @259

Not that simple. EU made your vassal politicians to change the constitution after joining the EMU (Euro). Whereas the original constitudion of Finland said: "Finland is a sovereign republic.", the new one says: "Finland is member state of the EU".

To change that, parliament of Finland would have to vote with 2/3 majority in two consecutive governments (4+4 years) to change Finland's constitution to return back to sovereign republic. Before that, you could not even legally turn to commission and ask for "FIXIT". As all parties in Finland are just marionets or controlled opposition by EU/US, how would you think this would ever happen? No voters have say on any of this. Even if you tried to establish new party with EU-critical message, the US-owned media would character assasinate you and anyone you ever spoke with - not to speak that you would be able to keep the 2/3 power for two governments.

I could bring up hundreds of other reasons like this, but this one is already making the point.

Posted by: Tigger | Jun 18 2022 20:39 utc | 404

Arganthonios | Jun 18 2022 20:00 utc | 404

Russian Х sounds way stronger than english H.
It sounds indeed like german CH or like spanish J.

Exactly. That is why the kyrillic X is transliterated as Kh in English usually. But born in the US his name certainly was always pronounced in the English ways though I assume his father's name was written Xomckиы or so.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 18 2022 20:50 utc | 405

The US still has the Five Eyes, EU and Japan.
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The US itself is still a huge nation: 3rd most populous nation, top 2 economy, lots of oil, etc.
Don't confuse an inability to dominate the entire world with impotence.
Posted by: c1ue | Jun 17 2022 17:37 utc | 30

OK, but I see this 'stress' in the geopolitical situation as being exactly along those lines. i.e. EU and NATO being stressed to breaking point, therafter US and UK being tested. We also have to remember that the UK itself is an alliance of nations under stress. If Northern Ireland goes south [grin] to be with the rest of Ireland, scotland might also follow. Then where are England and the USA without their base for Trident off the northwest of Europe?

Nation shall rise unto nation...

Posted by: colin786 | Jun 18 2022 21:22 utc | 406

@Posted by: Kana | Jun 17 2022 16:35 utc | 1

And...before going into Russia proper, and taking it all over there, they have swallowed what of value remained in the EU´s least sovereign countries, and the circle for that was closed during the "pandemic".

For that to happen the US ( I mean three of its main financial corporations ) first took over the whole media conglomerate, so that to control the narrative, then took voer the main energy corporations in each and every European country whose sold elites allowed it.

The galloping prices of energy developing through the whole past year are a direct effect of this, that is espculative nature of US financial corporations and their lack of care for human lives and their natural and constitutional rights, nothing to do with Putin´s moves into Ukraine.

The "pandemic" lockdowns, dictated from the US´ dominated and controled WHO, along with the already ongoing through the years previous to the "pandemic" US´s war on China, put a break to world supply chains, which accelerates through the incident in the Suez Canal, plus the willing closue of US ports to goods unloading.

This, along with the accumulation of huge ammounts of cultivable lands in the hands of a few US oligarchs, precisely those who most benefitted ,and highly likely contorbute to the "pandemic" outbreak and its forced measures on the whole West, closed the circle for the in develop hunger crisis.

The current fuel crisis, due to irrational sanctions on Russia, will finish what of productive industry remains in Europe, facilitating the take ove of it by the same three financial corporations who advance the US foreign policy to conserve and amplify US hegemony, this time with no limit in price related to other nations´ human lives to pay and as well with no limit in price realted to what dirty tricks will be used, like the use of a well trained and indoctrinated through the past decade or so nazi force in Europe.

Once enough ruined the least sovereign nations in Europe, those in the EU which the US could not be take over during the past, also well orchestrated from the US, financial crisis of 2008, the price to be rescued will be the remains of the welfare state, that is public health care systems, whose good reputation and quality was intentionally demolished through the "pandemic", plus the public pensions systems, once aligerated from beneficiaires by the ongoing, for two years in a round, erasing of the eldest from the face of Earth by chemical warfare disguised and propagandized by the European US owned media as care...

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Jun 18 2022 21:27 utc | 407

Johnson, and most of the European leaders, need this was to escalate so that to avoid the masses hunging them from the lamposts once ruined and the countries turned into failed states. That is the, ongoing, Ukrainization of Europe.

They need escalating the war to declare martial law in their ruined countries to keep the people shut up and in confinement while they are robbed of everything they own.

This is what they all dictated new "national security" laws for in the end of the past year.

This is how Boris will navigate the already announced by him general lowering os wages in the UK.

The state of exception in Spain in and around the NATO Summit will be the general rehersal with everything....

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Jun 18 2022 21:37 utc | 408

Sadly, Hugo Chavez is no longer able to compete for this title.
Posted by: Wilikins | Jun 17 2022 18:06 utc | 50

There is, however, Luis Ignacio Lula da Silva in Brazil, a great statesman of our time.

Posted by: colin786 | Jun 18 2022 22:12 utc | 409

Speaking of Mr Assange it seems that following the change of government last month Australia may finally do something about the abduction and hostage holding of an Australian citizen by a corrupt self interested amerikan government.
Today's (Sunday) edition of the Sydney Morning Herald has a front page story that high level officials have told the amerikans that enough is enough, that Mr Assange has been held for far too long already.

Former foreign minister Bob Carr said the discussions over Assange’s release would be “governed by sensitive, nuanced alliance diplomacy appropriate between partners”.

“I trust the judgment of Prime Minister Albanese on this, given his recent statement cautioning against megaphone diplomacy and his comments last December,” he said.
But Carr predicted that “in the end the Americans can’t say no [to his release], given that President Obama commuted the sentence of Chelsea Manning for exposing the very war crime that Assange went on to publicise worldwide”.

“The Yank has had her sentence commuted; the Aussie faces an extradition and a cruel sentencing.”

Foreign Minister Penny Wong said on Friday that “Assange’s case has dragged on for too long and that it should be brought to a close. We will continue to express this view to the governments of the United Kingdom and United States”.

Apparently Oz is meant to be going to a NATO summit in Madrid next month, which should give an opportunity for 'albo' to raise the issue with sleepy Joe, I wouldn't be surprised if the issue of underwater turkeys also featured in that discussion as the ALP wasn't keen on the idea of chucking another $300 billion into amerika's MIC pot when the deal was announced by the previous government. Coincidentally former defence minister and new leader of the Oz opposition Dutton appeared this morning concerned about the future of that deal - is he worried that his huge slice is in jeopardy? It is difficult to imagine the citizens of Oz tolerating the donation of such a vast sum to the warmongers whilst a favoured son is held in amerikan SuperMax.

On the other hand it is difficult to see sleepy Joe's puppet masters agreeing to spring Mr Assange for the crime of journalism if that deal for the subs does fall apart.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 19 2022 0:24 utc | 410

Posted by: Pagan | Jun 18 2022 17:02 utc | 378

I am even beginning to suspect that his contributions to "Manufacturing Consent" were minor in comparison to Ed Herman's, whose integrity remained intact until his death.

Not something Chomsky denies, in fact. It's hardly his fault if everyone keeps calling the book mostly his rather than Herman's.


Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Jun 19 2022 0:42 utc | 411

sin2002@367, unless you can make your meaning clear, I will have to file your comment under "misleading word salad".
Explain why "no man is an island" is in any way related, or connected to the non-existence of "dictators,tyrants..."
Surely you can do better than this? Just in case you don't know, statements are supposed to be internally logically consistent or at least that is what I was taught. Your comment lacks this fundamental property. Unfortunately no communication is possible in the field of language if one of the communicating entities refuses to acknowledge and operate a policy of logical consistentcy.

FWIW, "Without others I am nothing." Or if you prefer karlof1's original "There is no Army of One". Do you have anything to say to either of these statements? Rather than answering your own questions.

Posted by: Foxbat | Jun 19 2022 1:16 utc | 412

Russian nuclear deterrence is very simple,there are 7m jews (incl 750k US citizens) concentrated in tiny israel available for instant wipe out, just four nukes and the surrounding Arabs/Palestinians will finish the job. Russia has made it clear that israel will be a first retaliation target if the great satan ever nukes Russian territory, its upto the billmahers, blinkins, nulandmans, shermans, schiffs,etc (who now rule in the US) to be on their talk shows 24/7 working overtime in Congress too, to stop the wasps at the Pentagon from doing anything silly or their 7m khazar tribesmen occupying Palestine will be toast. So with no threat of incoming nukes thanks to the billmahers, Russia can start using "special bunker busters" to DEMILITARISE these nazi devils hiding under 8ft concrete bunkers built since the 2014 Maidan coup, which theyr using to shell Russian civilians in Donetsk with such impunity.

Posted by: Observer | Jun 19 2022 2:27 utc | 413

"Perhaps unity will be achieved some day. Friendship already has."

Posted by: juliania | Jun 18 2022 17:24 utc | 384
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Indeed. Matthew Ehret has written several articles at the Canadian Patriot and SCF about the cooperative relationship between FDR's administration and Russian leaders. This ended with FDR's death and the rise of fascists in the USSA.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jun 19 2022 2:27 utc | 414

Chomsky,mearsheimer, Juan Cole and all the rest of the so-called leftists are Jews first and foremost. That they have gained statue by providing lip service to the Palestinian cause, Latin America problems, global warming etc.. is just or was part of the package to keep you believing that an opposition exists in the so called "democratic" world. Norman Finkelstein was even more for the rights of Palestinians now says the same thing about Russia.

Paul Goldman used to write on Asia times under the name Spengler tearing up China and Russia, until exposed. Asia times is not Chinese.

Scott Ritter and many more have gone sideways, because of pensions, threats, payments and even more. I don't care.

Listen to Michael Hudson for at 82 years, maybe decided that he had a good life and threats mean nothing.

Posted by: Karl luck | Jun 19 2022 3:07 utc | 415

It's fascinating and boring at the same time to read all the love/hate comments regarding Scott Ritter and Gonzales Lira.

Both are media talking heads (or want to be) with big egos. Ritter is too serious and Lira is at times too funny. I ignore the former and sometimes watch the latter for entertainment purposes!

They should be taken at face value for what they are. That way a lot of hot air can be conserved!

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 19 2022 7:04 utc | 416

re: Sam Smith | Jun 19 2022 7:04 utc |# 417
who remarked "It's fascinating and boring at the same time to read all the love/hate comments regarding Scott Ritter and Gonzales Lira.

Both are media talking heads (or want to be) with big egos."

here! here!

I wasted an hour this afternoon deconstructing anti-imperialist types across the gamut of You Tube/Rumble sites and decided that most were motivated by ego, greed or a combination of the two. Eventually I decided not to post my opinion here, because glasshouses and stones, earlier today I had put up a piece that indicated Julian Assange 's case has finally been picked up by the Oz government and the odds are better than even given the new found determination by Australia's new administration that amerika will spring Mr Assange, yet the post elicited zero response IMO because too many posters here at MoA appear to be so distracted by pushing their own barrows, that despite protestations to the contrary many are more bent on proving some arcane point than they are in spending any time or effort cheering on Mr Assange pretty much the only damn hero the 'net has revealed so far.

I decided how the f*ck can I call out the duplicity of the influencers who most influence us when our own motives here at MoA come across as even more suspect.

However setting aside all the others whose motives are mostly less transparent than Lira or Ritter, I cannot listen to/look at either of those two, Lira because his obvious personality disorder makes one wonder whether he can be trusted to place truth ahead of his need to be noticed & acknowledged, or Ritter ahead of his need to keep the dollars from YT clicks flowing.

It is tough to barrack for journos whose motives are nearly as suspect as those of the corporate media but still there remain a handful who I reckon are reliable.

None come close to Mr Assange's level of honesty & sacrifice thus far, even so there are one or two, one pretty obscure and the other the opposite of obscure, who I reckon place truth above any of the other motives a public speaker may have.

Now if only the rest of us can shed our baseness & be motivated solely by the need to inform.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 19 2022 10:26 utc | 417

(Sorry if this gets double posted. I waited 15 minutes and it didn't show up so I hit post again.)


1.) ...earlier today I had put up a piece that indicated Julian Assange 's case has finally been picked up by the Oz government and the odds are better than even given the new found determination by Australia's new administration that amerika will spring Mr Assange

2.) Now if only the rest of us can shed our baseness & be motivated solely by the need to inform.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 19 2022 10:26 utc | 418


1. Well, that news is worth a round and 3 cheers just for the hope it brings. Enough is Enough! That's the new battle cry! Enough is Enough America! Russia is telling that loud and clear. China is telling that in its own style and now hopefully Oz will take up the cry. Dare I hope for Norway and Europe too? Hell yes. Enough IS Enough!

2. Fully agree. Grieved had a post a week or so ago along the same lines. I don't come here to find out WHO knows what, I come here to find out WHAT. If Charlie Brown has something important to say, I want to hear it. If Norman Einstein has something important to say I want to hear it. Messengers are necessary, but as individuals NOT important. Thanking people by name is perfectly fine imho, but if you have info that contradicts another poster's info you should let your info do the talking.

So thanks, Debsisdead. I'm off to Sydney to pick up a copy of the Morning Herald.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 19 2022 11:37 utc | 418

@ Debsisdead | Jun 19 2022 10:26 utc | 418

earlier today I had put up a piece that indicated Julian Assange's case has finally been picked up by the Oz government and the odds are better than even given the new found determination by Australia's new administration that amerika will spring Mr Assange, yet the post elicited zero response IMO because too many posters here at MoA appear to be so distracted by pushing their own barrows
As for myself, I didn't respond because I couldn't find a polite way to say that the best one can hope for from the latest bunch of American-scum-sucking satraps in the Protectorate of Oz is a pro-forma empty gesture: "Well, we tried, but gosh darn it . . ." Just enough to pacify the relatively few Ozzies who actually care about Assange. So far the new gang of losers has wasted no time continuing the old gang's practice of "countering the Chinese threat," if you want to know where the real priorities lie.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 19 2022 11:37 utc | 419

Meanwhile:
"Warships have destroyed a command center with Kalibr cruise missiles, killing dozens of Ukrainian officers, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Sunday.

“More than 50 generals and officers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were killed,” the statement said."
hxxps://www.rt.com/russia/557428-50-ukrainian-generals-officers-killed-russia/

Posted by: Henry Smith | Jun 19 2022 11:54 utc | 420

Debsisdead @418: "Now if only the rest of us can shed our baseness & be motivated solely by the need to inform."

Hear, hear!

Wouldn't it be nice if people could post without the expectation of an adoring crowd forming around them industriously stroking their egos?

Such irony.

I'll forgive Ritter and Lira for being attention whores because that is part and parcel of making a living off YouTube (or any other commercially monetized social media platform), but needing to be petted for posting on a blog forum is just kinda sad.

With that said, thanks Debsisdead for the (overly) optimistic news about the efforts to buck the empire by a Labor leader from kangarooland who has never actually labored in his entire life. I am sure Albanese' aversion to "megaphone diplomacy" isn't because he plans to cave and let the issue die at the first "No!" from Sleepy Joe.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 19 2022 12:29 utc | 421

As a human whose dealings with the ALP (Australian Labor Party) have made me extremely cynical about its ability to take a good shit, I'm obliged to point out that the way that those usually worthless neolibs have released news of their approach to spring Mr Assange leads me to conclude that the new govt is optimistic about their ability to free him.

They have put themselves on a hiding to nothing. In normal circs this PR driven mob of power hungry scum would stay schtum before the Nato get together then, during the course of the knees-up 'leak' that they are angling to spring him, so they can come home muttering "we did our best but Assange's crimes are so far beyond the pale even we cannot get the man free".

The fact that they have let Oz know before this meeting indicates that they must be confident in a result, otherwise they're not going to be so upfront about him having copped more than enough. Doing that then failing to spring him is gonna be a major early black eye, specially given that they announced he's done his time.

From Biden's point of view his pollsters have prolly told his boss that Assange is a bit of a freebie in that whilst a significant number of dems prolly don't want Mr Assange sprung since he "cost Hillary the win in 2016", they know that few of those types will hold back their vote in the mid-terms if he is sprung, on the other hand many of those dem voters angry at Mr Assange's incarceration may decide that perhaps 'the lesser evil aint quite so evil' come November.

This is an issue that dem donors do not give a flying f*ck about, there is nowt in it for them one way or t'other so the dems are can play it as a calculation vis a vis the mid terms. If they adduce as I have, that springing the only honest journo will gain them more than they lose, they'll attach a mob of provisos to his freedom ( making it a somewhat larger jail cell), i.e., no freedom at all, then release Mr Assange to the Oz government's custody.

At the very least our man will be made to stay in Oz and prohibited from posting to the net. Unconscionable and obviously unworkable, but those of us with a heart will encourage the man to accept that so he can contest it later.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 19 2022 14:34 utc | 422

What difference does it make that people approve more of Trump? He works for the same people. The ones that need to go are the modern versions of "aristocracy" and "nobility", and the only way to scare them enough to stop trying their crap for a while is doing as the french did, putting their heads on pikes for all to see.

Even that is questionable. You can never rid yourself completely of a cockroach infestation.

Anyway, I don't see the solution happening until the famine is well underway, and by then the casualties amongst the youngest will be so high it will be a pyrrhic victory. A long, drawn out, tired, disappointed sigh for humanity, again. Hear hear!

Posted by: CassandraD | Jun 19 2022 15:13 utc | 423

Posted by: CassandraD | Jun 19 2022 15:13 utc | 424

Agree. But, once rid of such "evils" we're still faced with how we're to conduct business, how we're to manage limited resources (as we continue to grow).

I just got walled off of Branden Smith's alt-market.us for essentially trying to bring up this same point. I didn't join in on all the heavy group-think that the Davos crowd was "out to get us." It's the System. The current one(s) as well as proposals by the Davos crowd (and I'm sure what China has is also based on it), is still based on perpetual growth. I suspect that the Davos crowd knows there's limits and that it cannot just come out and say so lest there be a stampede, after which all bets on any manageable "system", at least in the short-to-medium-term, is off. An honest discussion is not to be had because such people will not disclose that their "solutions" are crafted to ensure that they retain power.

ALL WARS ARE ABOUT RESOURCES. The US would like to have been able to exploit Russia's resources*, but as this isn't going to happen any time soon then the war is for markets (Europe). Sometimes wars are about getting resources through an area. In every case resources underlie the reasons for wars. There will be various cloakings, such as religion or ideology, but such are only means for selling the war.

* No one asks THEN WHAT?, what happens when Russia's resources are consumed? At some point certain resources will no longer be "there" to use. We've built up a growth system on top of an exhaustible/finite resource and we are unable to identify a viable replacement to even maintain stasis, let alone provide for growth.

There will always be the swindlers, the power-hungry. Such, however, are no match for entropy. Our real "enemy" is entropy. Energy is our means of fighting entropy.

If there was ONE thing that I could mandate it would be that ANY person or entity that speaks about or has the ability to alter social actions MUST expose themselves to questions/debate. Without this we can be assured of never coming close to any "solution."

“The chief cause of problems is solutions.” -- Eric Sevareid

"If you can slide your premises by people you got them." -- Derick Jensen

Posted by: Seer | Jun 19 2022 21:16 utc | 424

There is alway a danger in all-or-nothing thinking (sometimes called "splitting") whereby any deviation from shared opinion is considered 'an assault upon one's divinity', as it were. These pundits, raconteurs, and commentators are sharing opinions to make sense of events from their informed perspective, no more no less. It is up to us to be open and flexible to receive as well as push back.

And that is where making it personal and cutting off the impure badwrongthink falls into the hands of alphabet intelligence agencies' hands of manipulating consent. They've admitted as such in finding ways to short-circuit judgment via emotional manipulation. Therefore it is up to us to find ways to disagree which embrace humanist traditions that allows for slowing down thought -- so that reflection has a chance to overcome such manipulation.

Also I agree about Syria. In a word, Megiddo, which is in the Golan Heights, has a mytho-poetic resonance to this madness. These series of unfortunate events is hubris walking it nemesis levels of tragedy, so why not peek at eschatological harmonies?

Posted by: JR whenDallasdreamt | Jun 19 2022 22:44 utc | 425

"Far too much spending" 🤔

I don't see any evidence of that.

Posted by: John Giles | Jun 21 2022 4:06 utc | 426

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