Reuters – unsourced leaks describing possible “compromise” over Kaliningrad
(and EU/EC and LIT each claiming, implausibly, that they’re only doing what the other insists on)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-kaliningrad-row-eu-nears-compromise-deal-defuse-standoff-with-russia-2022-06-29/
More BS to kill time, probably.
The recent mass LIT internet blockage / DOS episode, by anonymous hackers claiming to represent RF (also not clear if that’s honest or false), is not mentioned at all.
Article points out timetable of currently planned rail sanctions, with portions of it scheduled for July, August, and December

Posted by: ptb | Jun 29 2022 15:34 utc | 4

Interesting Long Twitter thread from Will Schryver
https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1541780685937332224
Key Point
But watching drone video of Ukrainian fortifications has convinced me the NATO brain trust effectively disdained Russian military capability, and its commanders, in the course of their eight-year-long preparation of the eastern Ukrainian battlefield.
They clearly believed the Russians would be stupid enough to assault Ukrainian fortifications using “modern” tactics entirely ill-suited to the task at hand. Their vanity persuaded them the Russians would beat themselves to pieces against an entrenched well-armed force.
Indeed, they were so confident of the genius of their plan that they persuasively encouraged many hundreds (if not thousands) of now-killed or captured NATO veterans to “share in the glory” of humiliating the Russians and bringing down the Putin regime once and for all.
They deluded themselves into believing the Russians lacked: strategic and logistical acumen, a sufficiently well-trained force, and – arguably the biggest miscalculation of all – sufficient stockpiles of ammo to conduct a protracted high-intensity conflict.
In short, I have come to believe the US/NATO actually persuaded themselves that this “Mother of All Proxy Armies” they built in Ukraine seriously had an excellent chance to soundly whip the Russians in a battle situated on their borders.
In other words, they not only grossly underestimated their enemy, but they ignored centuries of history that they somehow convinced themselves had no relevance to their 21st century aspirations to defeat Russia militarily and take a great spoil of its resources.
But, as is now readily apparent to all objective, knowledgeable military analysts around the globe, the US/NATO-trained Ukraine proxy army been savaged by a patient, methodical, and significantly outnumbered Russian force, using century-old doctrines and tactics.

Posted by: Aslangeo | Jun 29 2022 15:37 utc | 6

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
That’s why I try to be myself
Joe Tzu

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 29 2022 15:55 utc | 8

According to him, this was one of Russia’s “historic in scale mistakes”.
Posted by: S | Jun 29 2022 15:36 utc | 5
This approach is politically convenient today, but probably not correct historically.
What Yeltsin an Co did was unlawful emergent amputatio nof Gobrachyov’s hangrene. USSR had to be pro-actively killed before it would start dissecting most of the republics, and Russia first. In this legalistic twist Jokhar Dudaev (Chechen separatist) could be seen as Soviet officer fighting against Russian invasion into USSR.
But who cares about those twists today…

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 29 2022 16:05 utc | 10

Simply put, Yeltsin was the right man for the Outlaw US Empire and the wrong man for Russia until the very last moment when Yeltsin passed the torch to a man right for Russia and wrong for the Outlaw US Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 29 2022 16:15 utc | 12

Nicky in Olive Shirts
Elensky pushed the Security Council to expel Moscow from the United Nations and to create a tribunal to investigate actions of the Russian military in Ukraine, which invaded on February 24. However, Russia is a council veto power and can shield itself from any such action.
“Russia does not have the right to take part in discussing and voting in regard to the war in Ukraine, which is unprovoked and simply colonialist of the part of Russia,” Zelensky told the council. “I urge you to deprive the delegation of the terrorist state of its powers.”
Better to continue fuc*ing “the family” on line.
In 2 months, the sunflowers and corn will have grown, it will be necessary to harvest.

An sweet and hard “rendez-vous”.
And a magnificent final role for a small man.

Posted by: La Bastille | Jun 29 2022 16:17 utc | 14

But, as is now readily apparent to all objective, knowledgeable military analysts around the globe, the US/NATO-trained Ukraine proxy army been savaged by a patient, methodical, and significantly outnumbered Russian force, using century-old doctrines and tactics.
Posted by: Aslangeo | Jun 29 2022 15:37 utc | 6
Western “planners” always project like mad, i.e. they always prepare to defeat what they did in the same situation (bomb the heck out of everything and send in occupation troops), and got defeated doing. This has been going since Gulf War II (Iraq 2003). Very imitative. So they plan for a debilitating long-term resistance to the Russians to “weaken” them. The Russians, not being stupid, will fight no such war. They have repeatedly shown that too. Some of this goes back to worship of the wisdom of Brezinski.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 29 2022 16:23 utc | 16

NATO is sort of a private club of not very agreeable people/countries, who had got together for the fear of the Soviet Union, and kept on against Russia. The only unity these countries have is only on the family picture. That unity doesn’t further to fight against Russia, or even defend against Russia, if Russia attacks it in some place, well, not after 2014.
Russia, on the other hand, doesn’t really need to attack NATO militarily, as it can simply attack it economically. The neo-liberal, (neo-nazi) EU/NATO leaders had simply forgotten that. But, this summer/autumn, there’d be much less harvest in the Unfriendlies. Prices of all goods in these countries had gone up rapidly since February 2022. The heating period is coming up quite fast, and there’s not enough coal, gas, fuel in the Unfriendlies. The Arab countries are not that friendly to the EU/NATO, after all they are Islamic countries.
So, whatever the joint statements of the private club of Unfriendlies this weekend, it’d be just rhetoric. By the way, I’ve never heard of a Norwegian politician ever solving a world problem.
Anyway, there’d be power shortages in the Unfriendlies, especially in the Baltics, come autumn/winter.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 29 2022 16:28 utc | 18

Whew, is it hot in here today!! Montreal’s La Presse — earlier, I posted a link to a La Presse / AFP report on Putin’s visit to Tajikistan, and said I thought the video was trying to say something important.
https://www.lapresse.ca/international/2022-06-28/moscou-fait-tout-pour-normaliser-l-afghanistan-dit-poutine.php
(My take: when it says in extra-large letters, « La Russie dispose d’une importante base militaire au Tadjikistan » , I think someone who thinks they are being very sneaky and clever is about to get a supreme ass-kicking. That’s just how I see it.)
Then, Canada’s Foreign Minister Joly announced a major push towards world peace, starting in Europe, by establishing 4 new embassies — one of which is in Armenia.
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/2022-06-29/guerre-en-ukraine/le-canada-ouvrira-quatre-nouvelles-ambassades-en-europe.php
(Just a first Canadian Press report, I expect more coverage later.)
Reminder of Armenia’s strong Francophone ties —
https://en.armradio.am/2022/03/20/armenia-and-la-francophone-united-by-strong-cultural-and-historical-ties-fm/
Then — reader mail! In response to an opinion piece asking if the war in Ukraine is really a proxy war between the US and Russia. (The bourgeoisie, barflies, laid bare. Not pretty, in either official language.)
https://www.lapresse.ca/debats/courrier-des-lecteurs/2022-06-29/ukraine/une-guerre-indirecte-entre-les-etats-unis-et-la-russie.php
The link to the original article is at the bottom of the above link.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 29 2022 16:39 utc | 20

Jimmy | Jun 29 2022 16:22 utc | 15;
With a leftish female MoD, she feels morally so obligated to help those poor Ukrainian nazi’s she wil surely give away the rest of the Dutch army. As you know lacking of 25% manpower, hard to find;
15 leased tanks from Germany, no ammo, wrong armoured cars, part of the artillary gone. However top brass boasting about the defense capabilities. Needing more money about more stuff. Available over 10 years. In the que like the rest of NATO armies. Have to ask Putin to be patience untill all is delivered.
The elites are all so stupid, unbelievable, but democratically elected.

Posted by: DutchZ | Jun 29 2022 16:49 utc | 22

@23
posted too soon – NYT image here
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/06/28/world/28Ukraine-mall1/merlin_209247228_d45d531e-4d8b-4ce0-a9f4-9be2889e6fd8-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 29 2022 16:52 utc | 24

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 29 2022 16:15 utc | 12
“Yeltsin was the right man for the Outlaw US Empire and the wrong man for Russia until the very last moment when Yeltsin passed the torch to a man right for Russia and wrong for the Outlaw US Empire.”
How dialectical of you Mr. karlof1. I will store it in my tid bit notes.

Posted by: Ed Nelson | Jun 29 2022 16:54 utc | 26

I tried to post the URL but my post disappeared so here is the article in full

Neutralising StarLink
The Right People ( Telegram Channel)June 29, 2022
“What happens if the Russians and the Chinese target satellites? Will this be a threat to Starlink?” – such a question was asked by journalists to Elon Musk in connection with the conduct of a Russian special operation in Ukraine. The answer was:
“It was interesting to look at the Russian anti-satellite demonstration a few months ago in the context of this conflict. Because it caused a lot of controversy among satellite operators. It even posed some danger to the space station where the Russian cosmonauts are located. So why did they do it? This was a message before the aggravation of the situation in Ukraine. If you try to disable Starlink, it won’t be easy because we already have over 2 satellites. That means a lot of anti-satellite missiles. I hope we don’t have to test this in practice, but I think we can launch satellites faster than they can shoot them down with anti-satellite missiles.”
Battle for supremacy in space
As has been repeatedly said, dominance in outer space is the basis of dominance on the surface of the planet. And this is confirmed during the conflict in Ukraine. The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), not having their own orbital grouping, but receiving data from US intelligence satellites, through US communications satellites, are able to resist the technically superior armed forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) by an order of magnitude, inflicting quite sensitive strikes from time to time .
It is believed that Starlink satellites cannot be used for reconnaissance, although this statement cannot be unconditionally trusted, but even their use as a means of communication is a significant help to the enemy, and Starlink terminals in Ukraine, according to some reports, there are already thousands.
Starlink satellite communication terminals
But there are other small, cheap, commercial satellites that can be used for such purposes, as this conflict has shown.
What will happen if the RF Armed Forces collide in a limited conflict that does not involve the use of nuclear weapons with NATO? With an adversary who will have sufficient stocks of long-range strike weapons?
In this case, the presence of a highly effective reconnaissance satellite constellation of reconnaissance, communications and control will allow the enemy to destroy Russian troops without entering into direct combat contact. Aircraft will be destroyed at airfields, ships and submarines will die before they leave their bases, ground forces will not be able to create any large shock fist, move with significant forces, and organize an effective supply of fuel and ammunition. Surface ships at sea will also be guaranteed to be detected and destroyed from a distance exceeding the range of their detection tools…
On the other hand, the US Armed Forces without satellites, without intelligence received from orbit, without space-based communication systems, will lose a significant part of their advantages – they will not receive target designation of long-range precision-guided munitions, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) will not be able to operate beyond the radio horizon or out of range actions of the communications equipment of the repeater aircraft, many horizontal and vertical communications will disappear in multi-domain forces.
This conflict has also demonstrated the vulnerabilities of NATO doctrine. Russian weapons, while not as sophisticated, are far more resilient. By denying NATO air superiority and blocking its satellites, the ground army would not be much of a problem.
Countermeasures
How can Russia counter the US in space? Surpass the number and quality of reconnaissance satellites? This is impossible, we will not be able to produce and put into orbit satellites even in an order of magnitude less than the United States and other Western countries. And the presence of its own developed satellite constellation does not negate the superiority of the United States and NATO in the number of long-range precision weapons and UAVs.
Jamming enemy satellite constellations by means of electronic warfare (EW) and blinding with lasers? So far, nothing has been heard about this – nothing like this is used in Ukraine. Functional defeat in general is not a very reliable thing, and it is difficult to assess the effectiveness of suppressing enemy reconnaissance and communications equipment at any given time.
All that remains is the physical destruction of enemy spacecraft, but there are a number of problems here too.
Existing means can destroy one, ten, one hundred satellites, but what if there are thousands of them – tens of thousands? A situation will arise when putting new satellites into orbit will indeed be cheaper than destroying them, even if one anti-satellite missile will carry several interceptors. The advantage will be with those who can both produce satellites cheaper and put them into orbit cheaper.
Based on the foregoing, it is necessary to ensure a radical reduction in the cost of destroying enemy spacecraft, primarily in low orbit. This can be achieved on the condition that one orbital interceptor destroys not one, but several dozen, or better, several hundred enemy satellites.
Project orbital interceptor “Reaper”
Massively launched into orbit satellites are deployed in clusters from one launch vehicle and then are separated into their orbits. Knowing their orbit, you can launch an interceptor spacecraft in such a way that it alternately flies past the satellites that you want to destroy. At the moment of flight at a minimum distance, the interceptor will release a compact and inexpensive ammunition, which will destroy the enemy satellite. The interceptor itself will then go to the next satellite, then to the next, and so on, and so on, until it runs out of ammunition.
Small low-orbit satellites are massively deployed in clusters from one “large” carrier.
When attacking “on the forehead” on approaching the target, there is a risk that the interceptor will then fly into a cloud of fragments left from the attacked target and its own attacking ammunition. Based on this, it may be preferable to attack the enemy satellite after the interceptor passes by it. In this case, the launch of the attacking ammunition will be carried out in the opposite direction – all fragments will remain behind the interceptor.
The Reaper-type orbital interceptor must include radar and / or optical means of detecting and tracking a target, fuel and attitude control / flight path correction engines, an instrument compartment and a weapon compartment
Conceptual image of the Reaper orbital interceptor
Reaper-class orbital interceptor concept
The Reaper-type orbital interceptor, launched into orbit, should move slightly away from the intended location of the enemy satellite. At a certain moment, the orientation engines turn the interceptor flying by inertia, and then at the calculated point of the trajectory, when the tail of the interceptor is directed at the enemy satellite, a shot is fired.
The attacking ammunition hits the enemy satellite, and the interceptor receives an acceleration that corrects its flight path to fly past the next target satellite. Thus, the cycle is repeated as long as the interceptor has damaging ammunition. Additional correction of the flight path must be carried out by the engines of the interceptor.
Possible scheme of operation of the orbital interceptor “Reaper”
The Reaper orbital interceptor can use various types of ammunition. In the simplest case, this can be shrapnel ammunition, the easiest to manufacture and, accordingly, the cheapest. However, it is possible that the range and accuracy of shrapnel ammunition will not be enough.
As an alternative, unguided munitions with remote detonation on a trajectory or unguided munitions with a proximity fuse (or a combination of these solutions) can be considered. And finally, the most complex and expensive ammunition of the Reaper orbital interceptor can be a guided munition with guidance in a laser beam (“laser trail”) or with radio command guidance.
Ultimately, the type of ammunition used must be determined by the results of calculations and tests. It is possible that the ammunition load of one Reaper orbital interceptor may include several types of guided and unguided munitions.
One interceptor can potentially carry hundreds of damaging ammunition. For example, if the diameter of the launcher of one ammunition is about 150 mm, then a package of 100 ammunition in the 10×10 format will be a square with a side of just over 1,5 meters, respectively, a package of 400 ammunition will have a dimension of a little more than 3×3 meters.
Reaper-class orbital interceptor concept
Enemy counteraction
Of course, the enemy can try to destroy the orbital interceptors – this can be implemented in several ways.
The first is equipping satellites with self-defense systems. But this will make them complex and expensive, since they will need reconnaissance equipment, weapons, and so on, and this contradicts the very concept of massive and inexpensive satellites.
The second is the destruction of an orbital interceptor by an anti-missile launched from a land, sea or air carrier. To counter this threat, the orbital interceptor can launch small-sized decoys with corner reflectors and Luneberg lenses that increase the effective dispersion surface (ESR) of the simulators, as well as thermal emitters designed to deceive the thermal homing heads of interceptor missiles. At the same time, the orbital interceptor itself can be covered with a screen that reduces its thermal and radar visibility when viewed from the earth’s surface.
The third option is the creation by the enemy of their own orbital interceptors. It will be more difficult to make such ones to destroy the maneuvering orbital anti-satellite interceptor of the Reaper type, but sooner or later it will come to this. However, this will already be the next round of space confrontation.
If enemy satellites are to be launched by the thousands, then Reaper Orbital Interceptors must be launched by the tens, maybe hundreds. In case of a sudden attack, the enemy simply will not have time to hit them all, especially considering that both the “provocateur” interceptors mentioned above and simply false targets can be launched at the same time. The advantage of space is that it is much more difficult to distinguish a light decoy in space than in the atmosphere.
Conclusions
The creation of an orbital interceptor of the “Reaper” type is a difficult, but technically quite feasible task. It can be assumed that this weapon could have been created even on the basis of technologies of the late XX century. This weapon could have been created in the USSR, and it can be created in Russia now, no matter what sanctions our opponents impose on us.
Recently :
“U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris issued an official statement saying that the United States is committed to halting anti-satellite missile testing and also urging other countries to follow the U.S. example.”
Yes of course. Having gained an advantage in space, the United States is very afraid of losing it. Having lost the advantage in space, the satellites in orbit, the US military will lose a significant part of its combat capability. Much more than the Russian or Chinese Armed Forces will lose, having lost their satellites.
It is not known what the Chinese will do, although the call to create counter-measures has already been made in their specialist press, the Russians are simply obliged to target US and NATO satellites, which definitely include Starlink satellites. Depending on the development of the military-political situation, we simply may not have any other way but to clear the orbit.
Original text by: Andrey Mitrofanov

Posted by: Down South | Jun 29 2022 17:00 utc | 28

Sorry, Aslangeo | Jun 29 2022 15:37 utc | 6
already posted part of the thread.
Highly recommended you read all of it.

Posted by: JulianJ | Jun 29 2022 17:01 utc | 30

karlof1#17;
Here is another nice remark by the Foreign minister of India:
To end the day – a quote of External Affairs Minister of India Jaishankar
„Europe has to grow out of mindset that its problems are the world’s problems, but the world’s problems aren’t Europe’s problems“
Hit on the nail…

Posted by: DutchZ | Jun 29 2022 17:07 utc | 32

Most everyone here seems very aware of the truth about what is happening in Ukraine. Unfortunately, Russian MOD never reveals Russian casualties except for the one time I recall. They give the Ukrainian casualties report EVERYDAY. Makes me extremely suspicious that Russia MOD is hiding something. What are they hiding? What is the truth? If the figure is low, seems it would be prudent to state the daily figure. If it is extremely high, maybe they don’t want to admit it? I’m at a loss on the truth. But MOD is not doing anyone any favors by not discussing it.

Posted by: Mike | Jun 29 2022 17:10 utc | 34

One other thing from about two weeks ago I forgot to share with you is the “Tyre Twitter Guy” (=Russia losing because of its bad tyres), had a new thread that Russia had worn out its artillery barrels from firing so much, so would not be able to continue attacking.
ROFL.
The idiocy on display in the BrOsint world is mind-boggling.

Posted by: JulianJ | Jun 29 2022 17:16 utc | 36

That twitter thread is a serious laff at twit #11 !

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 29 2022 17:18 utc | 38

Posted by: bevin | Jun 29 2022 17:06 utc | 31
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Well, I was on both sides of the iron curtain in the 70s, 80s and 90s to have look at NATO of those days…NATO absolutely feared the USSR (and the Warsaw Pact) those days. Even with all those “brave” talk in front of cameras, the EU/NATO are afraid of the Russians. Right now, the EU/NATO is playing cat’s paw with the Ukraine…

Posted by: ostro | Jun 29 2022 17:20 utc | 40

re: Will Schryver commentary on what seems to be poor war advice by NATO to UA
Important points, but long winded. Add to it the ‘human shields’ aspect, around which the current fortress-city concept revolves.
Also in a more cynical view, which Schryver also says is a possibility, NATO isn’t necessarily dumb in arranging the merciless sacrifice of their proxies – doing so is practically SOP. If you place zero value on the lives of the proxy, you lose nothing. Instead, it was dumb of UA (and thank the naivete of the endless twitter cheerleaders too) to think they would be treated better than your usual proxy-war surrogates, just because they’re light skinned.
For NATO what was dumb was all the heads of state believing the sanctions were going to be a magic bullet.

Posted by: ptb | Jun 29 2022 17:30 utc | 42

28
How about artificially creating clouds that prevent satellites from seeing?
No more centralized depots, distribute all inventory assigning a unique ID to every item, that is then called by software if and when required.
If necessary, develop alternatives to satellites for the own country, and then launch cluster bombs into orbit that will explode and emit millions of sharp parts destroying all satellites.

Posted by: Nico | Jun 29 2022 17:35 utc | 44

If you remember those Apollo flights and before that, America always talked about a launch before it happened, and then spoke about some problems, when a launch didn’t happen on the said date. On the other hand, we got to know of a Soviet space rocket launch only ,after it happened.
Likewise, we hear about any Russian, DPR, LNR advances, only after they happen, not like how its done by the US/EU/NATO. Even, the Ukraine talks about counter offensives upfront. The collective West wants PR victories, and usually they flop.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 29 2022 17:41 utc | 46

S | Jun 29 2022 17:33 utc | 43
“I disagree with the use of the word “genocide” in reference to what was happening in Donbass. Genocide is a policy of systematic murder of all people belonging to a certain ethnicity. What was happening in Donbass doesn’t really fit the definition. It’s better described as a campaign of terror against a population to force it to give up its cultural identity, values and historical memory.”
If one is going to use the concept at all, it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me to expand the definition to include cases where the persecutors seek just what you wrote, the eradication of a people as a cultural group even if they’re not physically exterminated.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 29 2022 17:51 utc | 48

Posted by: Mike | Jun 29 2022 17:10 utc | 34
Come on Mike, why SHOULD Russia give this data ???
I see no reason to give ammunition to my enemy, which is what I believe Russia is thinking.
The West is doing just fine with it’s manufacture “facts” in so many subjects. I’m sure they can come up with the number on their own.
By the way, was that a coup d’état on Jan. 6th in DC ??? Man. I was so worried then.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 29 2022 17:56 utc | 50

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 29 2022 15:55 utc | 8
You are rapidly mastering this new Joe Tzu art form!
Haiku Tzu:
Gazing into the Sun
My mind wobbles mindlessly
So Great to be Me!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 29 2022 18:01 utc | 52

“Help me out here.
from a previous posting:
The light gray shopping center roof can be seen south of the large Kredmash machine plant in the center. The small park from which the surveillance videos come is directly north of it. Google has marked it in green as some special recreational space. The factory has direct rail access at its southern side with several rail tracks for loading and unloading machinery. Rail access makes it an ideal space for preparing or repairing heavy weapons. It seems that the railway area was one of the two targets.
Still not convinced? Well, here is video from a Ukrainian TV station taken on the factory grounds. It is showing a crater and the debris of the factory. The areas where it was hit are pretty much destroyed.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/12i/ekz2-s.jpg
from the NYTImes
Here’s a photo showing the destroyed mall but no destruction beyond it.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/12i/ekz2.jpg“
OK. This first video is shot from the park mentioned. https://youtu.be/grVDYRMl5QY
Especially watch from about 2:07. Note the round pavilion on the water and how close the explosion is to it. Compare it to the over head satellite view B posted. Now like at this street view from the same park. https://www.google.com/maps/@49.0749687,33.4276883,3a,75y,188.06h,86.45t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipM5ltBAzsbEwOW9tXZJuWh5Gz2x5Y2RAjGQRfwU!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM5ltBAzsbEwOW9tXZJuWh5Gz2x5Y2RAjGQRfwU%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya178.57487-ro-0-fo100!7i6912!8i3456
Note the large building. This is the factory in the location that exploded in the video. There must have been hundreds of tons of explosives stored there.
Now look at the satellite view again. Measure the distance between the back of the shopping center and the pavilion. It is pushing 2000 feet!
So if the nyt is trying to claim a mall was hit and nothing else…lmfao!

Posted by: nook | Jun 29 2022 18:12 utc | 54

Don Bacon @55
yay. let’s hope the West has a good an eye as you

Posted by: polarbear4 | Jun 29 2022 18:27 utc | 56

oops. @SCC @55
mall video discerpancies. ty

Posted by: polarbear4 | Jun 29 2022 18:28 utc | 58

About the shopping mall: the missile hit the ground, behind the building (between the tracks). PS: Yes! Radio-Canada didn’t block my comment about this!
https://mamot.fr/@lutzray/108562041912144216

Posted by: physprof | Jun 29 2022 18:37 utc | 60

Or:
The mall was fist hit, the dust settled gently allowing to take the picture of the NYT article before a second or third hit destroyed the worshop behind.
Lucky picture

Posted by: SCC | Jun 29 2022 18:40 utc | 62

Posted by: JulianJ | Jun 29 2022 17:16 utc | 36
I read an article in some dutch tire expert online magazine the other day that claimed something similar.
According to them the infamous Russian convoy to Kiev was stuck because of bad Chinese tires that all went flat or something like that.
That was a good laugh, it had a big picture of a Russian military truck that looked brand new with a flat tire.
The conclusion was Chinese tires are shit and that the Russian military official that decided to buy these tires because he was corrupt is now probably serving at the front line in Donbass.

Posted by: Jimmy | Jun 29 2022 18:49 utc | 64

Replying to Joe6pack #23
“eating cabbage and kow towing to russian overlords.”
Pretty feeble Joe. Russian overlords? Apparently Ming the Merciless does free healthcare now. Rather live in Moscow than Washington any day.

Posted by: T Paine | Jun 29 2022 18:57 utc | 66

Posted by: ostro | Jun 29 2022 17:59 utc | 51
He meant to step up to the fifteen plates served in the Royal Palace, Madrid, just like Caligula, Nero and all those characters from Rome, what is really humilliating for the common folk and inhabitant of a big city, they used the Old Plaza Mayor as parking¡¡¡¡
And at the same time they forecast hunger.
Imperial dinner

Posted by: Paco | Jun 29 2022 19:03 utc | 68

Posted by: T Paine | Jun 29 2022 18:40 utc | 63
I see so that’s how they operate at the guardian
The biggest dutch online news site that is completely free of charge, owned by the biggest newspaper corporation in The Netherlands and Belgium, not only have they not reported anything about the mall today. Every day since the war started they have a Ukraine war news summary, Today, it is 9 PM now, no Ukraine war news summary so far.

Posted by: Jimmy | Jun 29 2022 19:09 utc | 70

From IntelSlava

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Kadyrov said that the Chechen National Guard had also entered Lisichansk and was fighting in the city.

Posted by: Down South | Jun 29 2022 19:22 utc | 72

Posted by: James Cook | Jun 29 2022 19:18 utc | 71
They left about a month ago. The base is right down the road from me.

Posted by: Wook | Jun 29 2022 19:26 utc | 74

Discussion about genocide usually lead nowehere because they are emotionally charged and lack knowledge/understanding of the crime, its legal elements.
Genocide has been heavily abused for political/propaganda purposes in the last 30 years and has lost all meaning in laymen discussions. Legally, in that same period, it has been developed in international jurisprudence by the international criminal tribunals, and now by the permanent International Criminal Court.
– As I have noted here before – like every crime, it has two elements: a prohibited act, and a legally defined mens rea (state of mind of the perpetrator). There are five criminalised acts that can be genocide (killing members of the group, etc), and there is the intent, called specific intent, which is – the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group AS SUCH. It is this intent which charactersises the crime, makes it particularly egregious (‘the crime of crimes’). This intent is difficult to prove. Both elements need to proved beyond reasonable doubt for there to be a finding that genocide was committed.
What type of crimes were committed in Donbas can only be properly established by a legitimate and credible court of law in fair and public proceedings according to the highest standards of law today. It is best to leave genocide aside and concentrate on the most important developments and processes in the world now.

Posted by: JB | Jun 29 2022 19:38 utc | 76

If you want to read about Wimbledon try this link
http://steelcityscribblings.uk/wp/2022/06/28/anyone-not-russian-for-tennis/
Why not the original WSWS link? Because this one includes a disassociation from the Walsh “Putin is Bad” line which disgraces an otherwise shrewd piece of analysis by a person, David Walsh, who knows better.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 29 2022 19:41 utc | 78

Some thoughts on Russian intentions and plans. The debate here elicited numerous speculations, primarily about the main goal of SMO with respect to how much of Ukrainian territory is to be liberated/taken. One group firmly believes that the goals of demilitarization and denazification cannot be achieved unless all of Ukraine is subdued. The other group believes that Russia will be content with liberating/taking the territory populated by Russian speakers, which are the districts to the East and South, which are also the most developed. The thinking is that Russia does not need the West of the country because it would be difficult to manage given accumulated hatred of everything Russian.
In this debate there hasn’t been much of a discussion on how the political and military leadership of Ukraine (one must add here their Western advisors or sponsors) sees the Russian offensive. The official propaganda must, of course, proclaim that the whole territory of Ukraine must be defended and liberated including the Crimea. Recent pronouncements from the West about the need for Ukraine to cede some territory have not yet produced any official proposals, which supports the view they are no more than trial balloons designed to gain time.
But what does the activity of Ukrainian military tell us about their strategic goals? If the Ukrainian leadership thought that giving up some territory to the Russians would save the rest of the country from further destruction, wouldn’t they try to negotiate, even to gain time, despite Western diktats. Also, why would they throw everything they have to defend the Line of Contact and suffer horrendous losses in an almost futile attempt to stop the Russian advance.
I am of the opinion that if the Ukrainian leadership had any illusions of stopping the Russians by giving up Donbas they would have made some move to at least explore that option. I believe they have no such illusions, they are aware that their best chance to stop the collapse of the country is right there at the Line of Contact, where they have fortifications and where they have accumulated men and arms and where they can use local population as human shields. Such “favourable” conditions do not exist in the rest of the country. To conclude, I think that the intransigence of the country’s leadership is a sign that they know this is an all-or-nothing battle.

Posted by: Pagan | Jun 29 2022 19:52 utc | 80

James Cook @71
your link is terrifying. i had to stop reading it. can’t the UN step in here, with amerika basically declaring war?

Posted by: polarbear4 | Jun 29 2022 19:54 utc | 82

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 29 2022 16:15 utc | 12

Simply put, Yeltsin was the right man for the Outlaw US Empire and the wrong man for Russia until the very last moment when Yeltsin passed the torch to a man right for Russia and wrong for the Outlaw US Empire.

Amen & testify, brother!

Posted by: majoab | Jun 29 2022 20:09 utc | 84

Very Lengthy article: US/NATO direct war (not proxy) with Russia now not a question of if but when; it is a given with the lunatics in charge: (all wrapped up in “Climate Change)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/29/deafening-drumbeats-for-war-biden-sends-more-u-s-troops-to-ukraine-border-101st-airborne-deployed-six-destroyers-to-mediterranean-f-35-squadrons-to-u-k/#more-234620

Posted by: Thomas | Jun 29 2022 20:09 utc | 86

@82, “can’t the UN step in?”
No. UN today exists only to support US terrorism. For example, UN backed US violent overthrow of Ukraine in 2014….https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Posted by: susan mullen | Jun 29 2022 20:16 utc | 88

Posted by: Thomas | Jun 29 2022 20:09 utc | 86
I still can’t get my head around the fact that Biden (and family) is TOTALLY compromised with graft in both Ukraine and China and yet supposedly is also this hard line realpolitik leader confronting Russia with existential vernichtigkeit (?).
I’m not sure I buy it. I can’t help but suspect that this entire thing is political kabuki ushering in a new geopolitical configuration. The West is not going to disappear when this is all over. Some network or other is going to be running it.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 29 2022 20:22 utc | 90

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 29 2022 16:27 utc | 17
If living in Asia I would view the arrival of NATO as a reedition of the colonial invasions that started in the 1600’s. I would rather escort them back to Europe and N.A. or sink them if they resist.

Posted by: Richard L | Jun 29 2022 20:22 utc | 92

Everyone in the “west” speculates of what might happen in few hours in SMO, and even some Russian TV stations, such as Zvezda, show some of those from the west, who speculates like Ritter on their programs, but all we get to know is what happened after that happens. It is always like that with the Russians.
This is what makes everyone guessing, even (especially) those at the command centres of EU/US/NATO. They panicked in February, and they are still panicking. That’s why the “invitation” for two foolish countries to join the NATO. If anyone thinks that all the members of NATO would fight for a member country, if that country is attacked/invaded by Russia, s/he must be utterly foolish. Not even the USA would openly fight Russia. BoJo’s UK? It’s a joke!
Nato’s Article 5? Sure, against a weaker country, such as Afghanistan.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 29 2022 20:34 utc | 94

JB @ 87
Funny, the same situation as me.
The Dutch and British have a heavy colonial history. Lot of baggage to carry.

Posted by: alek_a | Jun 29 2022 20:35 utc | 96

More video from the Shopping Mall
Today French TV LCI was in the Kredmash factory. Just have a look at the first 2 mn. The “mall” is really close from the factory, was hit on northeast corner [or railways]
French TV conclusion is that the first missile hit the factory and the second one probably missed a few meters.
French LCI :
https://youtu.be/XE26ZH-SX3
As T Paine | Jun 29 2022 18:40 utc | 63 wrote from gardian, they don’t said [and don’t even try to know] if this “shopping center” was actually active. A more false fact checked.
Stinky story

Posted by: La Bastille | Jun 29 2022 20:38 utc | 98

Mike | Jun 29 2022 17:10 utc | 34
Russia mod reports are no different to what they where in Syria. DPR publish their losses so a rough idea of losses to Russia LDPR side can be judged from from.
Russian forces appear to be mostly a holding force Kherson, Zaporizhzhia and Kharkiv.
DPR, LPR, Chechens, paratroops, cossacks and Russian volunteers trained in Chechnya appear to be taking part in the offensives within Luhansk and Donetsk.
DPR in the current phase have losses killed of a bit over 20 per week on average. Or at least that’s what it was some weeks ago.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 29 2022 20:39 utc | 100