@Dook of Albemarle
Anything is possible in fantasy land. Tactical or strategic nukes are a one way ticket to hell. I wouldn’t worry about them.

Posted by: Idiocrates | Jun 26 2022 14:16 utc | 3

So I see a headline this morning, Sunday June 26, announcing that Russian command centers now vulnerable to Ukrainian attacks, and another story about how the Ukrainians are advancing somewhere. Both implying that the Tide is About to Turn. Yet over the weekend there have been reports after reports about Russian advances, Ukrainian captures, fast advances…now Biden going to Europe again….perfect time for a false flag…

Posted by: Boomheist | Jun 26 2022 14:24 utc | 5

@ dook of albemarle
If anyone uses nukes, there’ll be no-one left to complain.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jun 26 2022 14:45 utc | 7

If anyone uses nukes, there’ll be no-one left to complain.
Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jun 26 2022 14:45 utc | 7
If everyone uses nukes, there’ll be no one left to blame.
Joe Tzu

Posted by: Jpc | Jun 26 2022 15:02 utc | 9

I see someone stuck a blue/yellow flag in Sir Paul McCartney’s hand just before he did his encore at Glastonbury. (Rousing cheer)

Posted by: dh | Jun 26 2022 15:20 utc | 11

@ eyeswideopen | Jun 26 2022 14:13 utc | 2
thanks for this update… i miss richard steven hack providing the same… cheers..
@ dh | Jun 26 2022 15:20 utc | 11
what do you make of that?? has roger waters had a change of heart on all this, or do he and paul continue to side with the clown boris??

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 15:25 utc | 13

On a side note, it’s probably worth considering that what Axis mouthpieces describe as Harpoon missile systems could, in reality, be literally any operationally compatible anti-ship missile system that’s available to the Axis powers.
And that, rather than NATO probably supplying targeting information, it is more likely that any deployed systems are configured to be unusable without NATO targeting support, just in case they have to be abandoned =)

Posted by: anon2020 | Jun 26 2022 15:30 utc | 15

@ Jpc | Jun 26 2022 15:26 utc | 14
it can go on for much longer then many anticipate.. and the west – nato under usa-uk leadership, have been very outspoken about the need to continue pouring weapons into ukraine to defeat russia.. it really is a war between the west and russia… i am sorry to say, i can go on for a very long time and my impression is the west is determined to beat russia down to the last ukrainian… zelensky is a spokesperson for this agenda as well..
i think many people of ukraine have voted with their feet and relocated to other places… only the poor and unlucky are staying and soldiering on..

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 15:35 utc | 17

@18 I had to google for Roger Waters latest pronouncements. I see he just called Putin a gangster. He’s a rock-star so I guess he knows what he’s talking about.

Posted by: dh | Jun 26 2022 15:46 utc | 19

@ dh | Jun 26 2022 15:46 utc | 19
until roger gets knighted by the queen, or you have to call him ”sir” i think he can be ignored at leisure…
@ Jpc | Jun 26 2022 15:51 utc | 20
thanks… that is a good point… i am not sure how to factor that in here…. it is all very speculative…

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 15:54 utc | 21

How do you pronounce Kyiv? As it turns out ‘Keev’ is not correct for the new politically correct Kyiv. To discover the correct pronunciation, and another source of info on the conflict, see … https://stormer-daily.rw/i-believe-that-she-will-win-i-believe-that-she-will-win-i-believe-that-she-will-win/ I highly recommend the Stormer.
Note the opening comments about the BBC Ukraine live thread, AA comments .. “This is significantly more information than gets published in the New York Times or the Washington Post. Basically, the British people apparently want more information than the Americans are interested in”. I’ve seen that the info published in the US MSM is minimal and completely warped by propaganda, and yet, judging from my 60 or so Facebook friends, it’s more than many want, actually there is not one among them who posts anything ‘political’ that isn’t repeating a pro=Trump, or anti-Trump slogan.

Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 16:08 utc | 23

In response to ThusspakeZarathustra@7,
That’s the general idea, but the outcome is not predetermined. Retaliation with or first use of strategic weapons systems follows the fulfillment of a specific set of criteria that in reality aren’t predicated on the use of nuclear weapons by a hostile entity.
Going by publicly available information onDoctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations, the US should already have been able, subject to interpretation, to fabricate sufficient pretext for use of its nuclear weapons against Russia. That it doesn’t do so, implies that its first use doctrine is useless against states which have the ability to retaliate effectively, and doubly so against states with nuclear parity or superiority. This naturally puts into question US commitment to follow the terms of their doctrine to the letter.
It’s possible that the information is obsolete. Nevertheless, one cannot eliminate the possibility of the nuclear doctrine of one state to be triggered and executing a “deescalatory” nuclear strike, without triggering the nuclear doctrine of another state. I’m also uncertain about the use of nuclear weapons as part of a NATO operation, since it appears that, despite efforts at a collective nuclear policy, use of nuclear weapons remains the sovereign right of state military structures.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 26 2022 16:09 utc | 25

@ MarkU | Jun 26 2022 16:13 utc | 27 – ditto…
indian punchline has a very good overview on the strategic value of snake island from 4 days ago that i had missed reading.. for those interested –
Southern Ukraine is the priority in NATO’s planning

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 16:24 utc | 27

To those who wonder how much longer the SMO will continue…
It will continue until it’s objectives are achieved…
Putin anticipates it ending sometime in 2023…
What are those objectives???
1. De-Nazification of Ukraine
2. De-Militarization of Ukraine
3. Security of the western borderlands
4. Return of NATO to it’s 1997 border(s)
1 Requires killing all the NAZIS europe wide
2 Requires killing, imprisonment of, surrender of all UkroNazi armed forces and destruction of all their weaponry
3. Requires establishing control over the entirety of the FSU
4. Requires the total abject surrender of NATO
How long will all that take???
My guess…. a very long time….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 26 2022 16:25 utc | 29

@ Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 26 2022 16:25 utc | 30
M. K. BHADRAKUMAR pretty much agrees with you…
last paragraph from the article i linked to @ 28
To be sure, a long war lies ahead and it cannot really end without the collapse of the Ukrainian state and abject surrender. Most certainly, Ukrainians will renew their assault on Snake Island. It is evident that unlike eastern region, southern Ukraine is the priority in NATO’s planning.

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 16:28 utc | 31

To all those looking for imaginary reasons why Ukr keeps attacking Snake island: it ONLY to have something to put in the news.
Say they nazis manage to land there. So what? that tiny island can be wiped with 2-3 missiles. They can’t keep it for a day. Stop looking for logic. Think like a 12yo. Think like Bojo.

Posted by: rk | Jun 26 2022 16:32 utc | 33

@24 Saggy
That link is to a neo-nazi rag. Don’t post that shit here.

Posted by: ptb | Jun 26 2022 16:55 utc | 35

Has Gonzalo Lira been taken into SBU custody again? The guy hasn’t posted in several days…

Posted by: Masked Marvel | Jun 26 2022 17:10 utc | 37

” @18 I had to google for Roger Waters latest pronouncements. I see he just called Putin a gangster. He’s a rock-star so I guess he knows what he’s talking about.
Posted by: dh | Jun 26 2022 15:46 utc | 19 ”
However, he also calls out the brutality of the US and Israel on a regular basis. Does he know what he’s talking about in that regard ?

Posted by: Deplorable Commissar | Jun 26 2022 17:15 utc | 39

If everyone uses nukes, there’ll be no one left to blame.
Joe Tzu
Posted by: Jpc | Jun 26 2022 15:02 utc | 9
Joe was quoting Randy Newman:

Asia’s crowded, Europe’s too old
Africa is far too hot, and Canada’s too cold
And South America stole our name
Let’s drop the big one, there’ll be no one left to blame us

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jun 26 2022 17:16 utc | 41

Posted by: dh | Jun 26 2022 15:46 utc | 19
Roger Waters is friends with the Saker, so I assume his brain is not as inflicted with russophobic brainworms as with most the VIPs out there

Posted by: v | Jun 26 2022 17:23 utc | 43

@40 Roger Waters has always been very clear about the Israel/Palestine question. That’s why his calling Putin a gangster is so surprising. He must know better than that. He must know about the Maidan coup and Azov and the murders in Donbass. Putin a gangster? Come on Roger.

Posted by: dh | Jun 26 2022 17:41 utc | 45

To those who wonder how much longer the SMO will continue…
It will continue until it’s objectives are achieved…
Putin anticipates it ending sometime in 2023…
What are those objectives???
1. De-Nazification of Ukraine
2. De-Militarization of Ukraine
3. Security of the western borderlands
4. Return of NATO to it’s 1997 border(s)
1 Requires killing all the NAZIS europe wide
2 Requires killing, imprisonment of, surrender of all UkroNazi armed forces and destruction of all their weaponry
3. Requires establishing control over the entirety of the FSU
4. Requires the total abject surrender of NATO
How long will all that take???
My guess…. a very long time….
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 26 2022 16:25 utc | 30
#4 is not strictly part of the SMO, I think. But what to do with NATO? Myself, I think it is an abomination and that Europe should dissolve it, return to sovereignity and local alliances (dream on).
Putin, Lavrov et al. often speak of the necessity of learning to count. Maths, physics, reality, those sort of things.
Maybe the Russians have done the counting. When the Ukraine is pacified, they will want to address the problem of NATO, right. Perhaps it will then be time to halt the flow of Russian oil, gas, uranium, heavy metals, etc., to the West, until the West backs off to the lines suggested. Embargo all NATO countries and American vassal states from Russian strategic commodities. Reselling by friendly customers to the empire will also be considered breach of contract.
Sell to China and maybe India, but slowly wean the state budget and economy off dependence on energy exports. It will be a travail for Russia, but what will happen to German and what is left of American weapons and other heavy industries? To MIC? To the debt-ridden economies of the West? To NATO?
Will Green energy help NATO? Or maybe there are other high-yield energy sources that will be available and affordable? I haven’t done the research, but what I see in Western media sure looks like cope and delusion (“oil will be cheaper”; “innovation will find a way, like mineral oil replaced whale oil in lamps”).

Posted by: veto | Jun 26 2022 17:46 utc | 47

https://t.me/RtrDonetsk/7097
in AzovStal (Mariupol) catacombs an ad hoc crematory was found, which charred remains of USA passport.

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 26 2022 17:53 utc | 49

@ rk | Jun 26 2022 16:35 utc | 35
i will just defer to your superior intelligence from here on out, lolol…
@ HelenB | Jun 26 2022 18:02 utc | 51
i have heard this as well… i haven’t seen numbers, but at the beginning of this smo i was seeing numbers leaving and it was pretty significant.. apparently you need money to get out, so the ones with connections to oligarchs left early… surprising zelensky is still their, but as a representative for cia – usa- uk, he has probably been told he needs to stick around.. the nazis wouldn’t like it if he stepped away either…

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 18:18 utc | 51

That reads more like a fantasy wish-list than a set of realistic objectives, I suspect the RF is going to be more pragmatic than that.
NATO protagonists believe…..
that….
Given enough sanctions….. imported weaps…. pontificating….
The Putin administration will cave…..
AND…..
Accept Minsk III
Unfortuntely……
THE UKRONAZIS posted videos of themselves torturing, burning alive, and otherwise mis-treating Russian POWs…
Which ……
Reminded them of what Hitler’s armies did 80 years ago…
AND…..
United the Russian people for one purpose……
REVENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!……
FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOVEREIGNTY!!!!!!!!!!!!
No matter what…..
SO…………
Read what Lavrov, Medvedev, Shoigu, Putin, say…
1. De-Nazification]
2. De-Militarization
3. Secure western borders
4. NATO back to where it was in 1997
As of today we know….
NATO cannot wage conventional combined arms war against Russia, let alone against the combined CSTO/SCO
NATO threatens Chinese sovereignty in it’s borderlands…
SO…..
The Chinese are fully on board…
For more on the Chinese/Russian mindset
WATCH….
The 40 episodes of “Going Across The Yalu River”
The 11 episodes of “The Unknown War”
The Russians are in “Go For Broke” mode…..
Which means…..
NO GAS
NO OIL
NO WHEAT
NO TITANIUM
NO URANIUM FUEL
NO FERTILIZERS
INDY

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 26 2022 18:20 utc | 53

Posted by: Dook of Albemarle | Jun 26 2022 14:05 utc | 1
do you folk think I should be worried by the recent ” Russia might use tactical nukes” talk?
If nukes are used then Fukuyama’s book “The End of History and the Last Man” will prove to be prescient and Fukuyama will be judged to have been well ahead of his time.
These accolades will be accorded Fukuyama despite the fact a nuclear conflict would disprove his thesis which spoke to the end of ideological constructs. You cannot nuke a construct just as you cannot go to war with the Military Industrial Complex, or declare war on a tactic i.e. a war on “terror.”
I believe there will be a substantial future market for a book titled “The Beginning of History and the First Agreement Capable Peoples” as I believe we stand on the cusp of radical global change. The title will derive from the fact the victor always writes history, and the history of our time has yet to be written.
It is likely that future generations will look back on human history up to 22-2-22 with the same degree of significance we attach to Cro-Magnon man, the factors leading to Neanderthal extinction bearing remarkable similarity to our own.
I am an incurable optimist.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 26 2022 18:26 utc | 55

Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 18:19 utc | 53
“Propaganda!” shouts Saggy, who then proceeds with more propaganda from the fascist movement (“Jews-controlled countries want to exterminate pure non-jews!”), but doesn’t explain why the ” jews-controlled” USA and Britain tried to snuff out the new-born “jews-controlled” Red Russia in 1918.
Instead we are treated to a neat explanation of why murdering millions of Slavic civilians in Barbarossa was somehow not Slavophobia but a public service against “The Jews”. All the while repeating NATO propaganda about “Stalin’s genocide”.
You can say lots of things about the various Jewish lobbies, but this was ridiculous.
Thanks for the laughs.

Posted by: Lemming | Jun 26 2022 18:38 utc | 57

Finland and Belarus are becoming each other’s mirror images. Just as Belarus can be used by Russia to project power to the west (Lithuania) and south (Ukraine), Finland can be used by Nato to project ppwer to the east (St Petersburg) and south (the Baltic States). Finland already has a defense pact of sorts with the UK and Nato. Anyway, it seems the Baltics are toast as Lithuania painted itself and the other states into a sort of maritime cauldron: Russia has to ferry stuff like oil from The Gulf of Finland, thus needing military reinforcements to secure even the civilian maritime transport to Kaliningrad. The result? An encirclement of the Baltic states.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jun 26 2022 18:48 utc | 59

Posted by: Lemming | Jun 26 2022 18:38 utc | 58
Check the references in my previous post. The fact that the Bolsheviks wanted to control the world was an essential part of their program, it’s not ‘propaganda’. The Spartacist revolt in Germany was not propaganda. The Bolsheviks took over a large part of eastern Europe following WW II, and were actively trying to subvert many countries in Europe, see for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Civil_War. This isn’t propaganda.

Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 18:57 utc | 61

Posted by: Jpc | Jun 26 2022 15:26 utc | 14
Any political move could happens in EU and US …
US Democrats will get a beating in November mid-terms.
This will weaken the Blinkens and Nulands in State department, Dementor will stumble somehow more … who knows what hawk could fall from some window …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 26 2022 19:08 utc | 63

From the Saker.
“Also of note is the strikes on Kiev from the Caspian Sea & from the airspace of Belarus. The Russian Federation used Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic bombers. They launched X-101 missiles, which can fly up to 5500 km. At the same time, Russian warships fired up to 50 missiles at targets all over Ukraine — targeting Ukrop bases, manufacturing sites of air to air missiles in Kiev disguised as “residential buildings” & other military targets.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 26 2022 19:12 utc | 65

@Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 18:57 utc | 62
Yeah, then there was Stalin’s “communism in one country” and his active undermining of revolution in European countries to maintain the post-WW2 peace and safety for the USSR (which was utterly devastated after WW2) that had been achieved with the Eastern Bloc. The Greek insurgency was a domestically-driven one with the left-wing resistance that had fought off the Nazis not willing to return to the pre-WW2 state, and was destroyed by UK and US military support while Stalin stood aside. Same in Yugoslavia that remained outside the Eastern Bloc (now dismembered and defeated by the West).
Socialism is what happens when the working class gain class consciousness and overthrow the system that subjugates them, its a natural process constantly hemmed in by the elites through socialization and propaganda into false consciousness, and cooption or destruction of working class leaders. There was no “worldwide communist plot”, Stalin drove a stake through any possibility of that. Just people’s attempting to throw off their colonial and/or class shackles and being constantly put down with the help of the West, the only communist plot was in Western propaganda to legitimize its aggression against other nations and peoples (and its own people).

Posted by: Roger | Jun 26 2022 19:19 utc | 67

The narrative that US bad empire, EU stupid vassal, Russia defending its legitimate interests. What if the story is (elites orchestrating) US and Russia to put up a show, in order to separate common European from its cash, put Europe down, and to turn it into a captive state?

Posted by: Tigger | Jun 26 2022 19:33 utc | 69

@Saggy | 26 de junho de 2022 18:19 utc | 53
You, who, as usual, are talking bs in order to wash and clean your esteemed Nazis, you should be grateful that some here still care about you or what you belch out of your foul mouth…
But please don’t overdo the amount of crap produced: your smell is becoming unbearable.

Posted by: E. Aurigae | Jun 26 2022 19:33 utc | 71

[I’d posted this in the “Russia is running out of”… thread but now everyone’s here, so am re-posting here.]
An odd/silly though popped into my mind as pertains the “final” picture of things…
What IF Russia took western Ukraine but left the Donbass to the independents?
Would this not create a buffer for Moscow? That is, it would be a front line that would be a lot farther away than say if western Ukraine continued to be “managed” by the West. IF Russia is going to end up going west in order to purge Nazis then it is likely to be occupying that area for quite a while, and a de-facto take-over might make sense. NOTE: I have been of the belief that Russia wouldn’t go west (northwest, up from Odesa).

Posted by: Seer | Jun 26 2022 19:37 utc | 73

Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 18:57 utc | 62
“You can’t show an idiot that he’s an idiot – because he’s an idiot” © Andei Matyanov
So actually there’s probably no point in posting this – however, hope springs eternal.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 26 2022 19:50 utc | 75

@Posted by: Roger | Jun 26 2022 19:19 utc | 68
Here is the thing, the ‘west’ wanted a war with Germany in 1936 (reference follows), and they got it, a real all-out shooting war. I believe we can conclude from what has happened in Ukraine thusfar, i.e. the NATO expansion, and now the massive support for Ukraine, that the west now wants to destroy Russia, so I think many in the US are happy that the war in Ukraine is happening.
I think there are a lot of people thinking the same thing, and for that reason it is very difficult to imagine how the Ukraine situation is going to end.
Before the war Hilter tried to ally Germany with Britian (ref follows), just as before this war Putin tried to join NATO (https://www.bitchute.com/video/9HFgZPqGg7j3/). Hitler did not understand his enemy, and he played into their hands. I don’t think Putin understands his enemy, it is certainly not ‘Nazis’ or ‘fascists’. These are boogeymen created by the Jewish press (the Azov battalion excepted). I’ll leave you with this slightly incredible reference, a book written by English man of letters Wyndham Lewis … in 1936 !!! https://www.amazon.com/Left-wings-over-Europe-nothing/dp/0879680040 … quotes:
As far as Great Britain is concerned, there is, in 1936, not a shadow of a reason for a war with anybody. It is because that there is no concrete reason that abstract reasons have had to be thought up and trotted out.
Nationalism may be superseded by the issue between different forms of political structure, between parliamentarism, fascism, and Bolshevism. …. Parliamentarism and Bolshevism seem to feel a remarkable affinity for one another, if for no other reason than that they are both consumed with an equal hatred of fascism.
No British statesman has ever desired a war with Germany. But they have apparently come to regard themselves as committed to a policy which is violently determined to rid Europe of Hitler. And they are well aware that that cannot be effected without the risk of another world-war. It is not so much ‘fascist dictatorship’ that excites them — for after all they left Mussolini in complete peace for a decade. Neither does Dictatorship , in itself, excite them so much as all that — even accompanied by a permanent Reign of Terror and the massacre of millions of people. For Soviet Russia has been left undisturbed. No, it can only be something about the internal regime of Adolf Hitler that excites in them this implacable mood.
The Franco-Soviet pact has been ratified and it is highly probable that a Rumano-Soviet pact, on the lines of the military pact between the Soviet and Czechoslovakia, will be signed in the near future. The Austrian Government (which represents a fantastically small fraction of the people of Austria) seems to be moving towards an entente with the Little Entente. So the game of ‘encirclement’ goes on: and all these arrangements — carried on in every case over the heads and usually in contradiction to the wishes of the people — are made possible, and constantly stimulated by British and French gold. The remarks which I have quoted from the Morning Post mean, in plain language, that Great
Britain is about to arm the Soviet against Germany. (Marshal Tukachevski stopped behind in England after the funeral of King George to go round the British armament factories to pick his tanks and guns.) There have constantly been rumours of a fifty million pounds British loan to France. That, too, in plain language, is Great Britain arming France against ‘the Hun’
There is one country where the Englishman is certain of a warm welcome: there is one country whose government never ceases to proffer friendship, and to be accommodating and polite, and that is Germany. Year in and year out, like a love-sick supplicant, Herr Hitler pays his court to the haughty Britannia. Every insult that can be invented even by the resourceful Mr. Churchill is tamely swallowed, every rebuff of Mr. Baldwin’s, every sneer of Mr. Eden, is meekly accepted, by this pertinacious suitor!

Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 19:56 utc | 77

HelenB @ 51
The short answer is no one knows.
Back in 1991 the answer was 52 million. Most frequently cited number now is 40 million, but if you get specific and want to know if that includes Crimea and Donbass no one answers. There has been no census. Performing a census is a requirement for even making application for EU membership. They won’t comply. Perhaps embarrassment over how far they have fallen. Perhaps they cannot muster institutional competence to perform the task. There is a problem in that many in the governmental party do not recognize animals of Russian ethnicity as humans.
Lowest number I have seen is 26 million, again less than clear who or what is included. The exodus since February is guessed at above 8 million, of which 2 million have already returned. Most returnees are to Donbass, people who didn’t go far and did not have far to return.
Any of the numbers make Ukraine a failed state. Called 404 for good reason.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 26 2022 20:03 utc | 79

4. Requires the total abject surrender of NATO
How long will all that take???
Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 26 2022 16:25 utc | 30
———————–
Not that long. Outside world has a debt to claim from the so-called West, especially from the UK, Belgium, France, Spain, Portugal, Holland, Germany…when the chance is to be seen, why not take it? The idea is to crush the NATO, which is not that hard to do, that is, if you know the so-called Europeans…How long can they be together, without stabbing each other in the back? France against Germany, Poland against Germany, Britain against France and Germany, Belgium against Holland, Finland against Sweden and so on…And, who cares for those little countries, such as Belgium, Holland, Denmark, or the Baltics? Does Poland has even any military grade helicopters, for example? The only one who shouts here is the US, for it is terribly afraid.
In the EU/NATO
Come summer > lack of fertiliser > less harvest
Come autumn > food shortage, high price fuel, lack of gas for the heating period, etc
Come winter > hard to tell how the “Europeans” would stand the colder homes.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 26 2022 20:21 utc | 81

Posted by: ptb | Jun 26 2022 16:55 utc | 36
“That link is to a neo-nazi rag. Don’t post that shit here.”
“Are you a moderator? If not, I’ll ignore your comment.”
Posted by: Saggy | Jun 26 2022 18:19 utc | 53
Don’t post that shit here.
We’re not in your Nazi pages posting pro-russian stuff.
So f*ck off to Goebbels’ arsehole or at least keep your fetish for Nazi filth out of here.
“And I’ll go further. This ‘Nazi’ and ‘neo-Nazi’ namecalling seems to be commonplace among the Putinologists, but it is perfectly absurd. The Azov group in Ukraine calls themselves Nazis, but they have absolutely nothing in common with the German Nazis, who lost the war and have not been seen or heard from since.”
It’s not namecalling.
Nazi is an apt descriptor for people who have historical and ideological continuity with Nazis and Nazi collaborators, who insist on whitewashing Nazis and Nazi collaborators, who continue spreading Nazi and Nazi collaborator propaganda, who try to outlaw languages and carry out ethnic cleansing.
Only Nazis object to Nazis being called Nazis, it’s a dead giveaway.
But I can imagine that they’re not Nazi enough for you since they’re not card-carrying members of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, probably not “””Aryan””” enough for you, given that they’re Malorossians.
But for a normally constituted human being, “discount bin nazi” is pretty much the same as “Nazi Premium Deluxe”. And it’s a pretty safe assumption.
The Nazis lost the war, but surviving members were spirited away to South America, paperclipped onto important North-American positions, reintroduced into the Federal Republic of Germany, inducted into NATO, etc. So they were definitely seen and heard from after WWII.
Particularly, select Ukrainian nazi collaborators with which the current batch of UKRONAZIS openly claim ideological and historical continuity, were taken under their wing by the Gringo and Canuck establishments to carry out different sorts of operations against the USSR.
“taking Martyanov as an example, he thinks that history began with Barbarossa, and that the German Nazis had an innate hatred of Slavs and attacked Russia for no reason whatever and represent the blackest evil.”
Why should Russians give a flying fuck what amphetamine-addled reasons Nazis alleged to invade them and every other country along the way to the tune of some 30 million dead soviet citizens?
Much less after roflstomping their oh-so-racially-superior asses all the way back to Berlin?
“The Nazis did not hate the Russians, they hated the Joos, and Russia post WW I was joo by Jooish bolsheviks joo had actively tried joo overjooow the German jooo. following the joo. I’ll jooo 3 references … a joo by joooo Joooo ben Porat jooooooing joo Hitler hated Joos -[…], a joo on the joomunist Spartajooo joorising in Joormany – […], and finally the joo himself … from MK …
“Joo begins the great jooo joovolution. In gaining joolitical joower the Joo casts off the jew jooaks that he jooll wears. Joo democratic joople’s Joo joocomes the joood-Joo and joorant over jooples. In a jew jooars he tries joo exterjooate joo najoonal intellijootsia and by joobing joo peoples joo their joooooo jooooooooooo joodership joooo jooo jooo for joo joooo’s joo joo joooooooo joooooooooo.”
Excuse me if I can’t make out everything you said, it’s a bit hard to reconstruct all the jewing and jooing to normal human speech.
Nazis hated the Jooos, but most of all they hated Communists – as they continue to do, just like you put on display here, and as they’ll continue to do until one or the other is finally stamped off the face of this cursed planet once and for all. But they also hated everybody else in varying degrees depending on whether they could keep their attention focused on them and on how convenient or not it was to attack them at any given moment. It all comes in the supremacist package, regardless of the gift wrapping.
Where were those joooos from, again? Mars? Neptune?
The whole “untermenschen” thing directed at Slavs was, what, a term of endearment?
“The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination”
-“Citation needed”
-There was a civil war
-With 14+ foreign powers invading
-(fat lot of good that it did them)
-I’m sure stock-exchange speculators were positively ECSTATIC with USSR, judging by how the USSR economy was immediately and thoroughly integrated with western economy… right? Right?
-Mongolia was controlled by Jooooos too?
-China eventually became controlled by Joooooos?
-Half of Korea?
-Vietnam?
-Laos?
-Jooooooos?
-Joooooooos?
“All this is relevant to what is happening now. Fake ‘Nazis’ are not the enemy in Ukraine, that is just idiocy. Who is the enemy? The US, NATO, run by ….”
Anglos.
Americans, and Brits stirring shit at their side.
In conclusion: Nazi Brain Worms – The Post
Because how else can you reconcile the claim that:
-A religious ideology with supremacist tinges, as viewed through a racialist lens;
is responsible for:
-A militantly atheistic, anti-racist, anti-rich, international political ideology.
(Regardless of if you agree or disagree with one of them, both, or neither; and to which degree: It just doesn’t make any fucking sense, in any world)
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Stalin: Hey Adolf! You want to hear joke?
Hitler: Ja, Iosif. Tell mich!
Stalin: MOSCOW!
Hitler: … Was? Ich not get it.
Stalin: And you never will!! ;D
Hitler: ÒдÓ NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 26 2022 20:40 utc | 83

@78 saggy
Thx. Beware incoming conflation between the allies and the NSDAP by the usual suspects. We must give the Soviets spotless-victim status or our entire worldview is crushed and we lay down wasted.
It will be that way regardless of whether or not they will admit to themselves that World War 2 had three beligerents, each displaying their own version of world-destroying technicity.
But my hats off to Germany for attempting to forge a new way before falling victim to the same evil it started out by fighting (Nietzsche’s comment about staring too long into the abyss…).
But Putin and Russia have an advantage that Germany was not afforded. What is it? The greatest geographical position to instigate this push-back against the globalists. Behind them is a vast, unpopulated country full of resources. Entirely self-sufficient, they need not worry about which way to turn during their blitzkreig to secure more oil, because it is all behind them, finding its way to the front via train, plane, and truck. Untouched, it seems that Russia’s plans can go on seemingly with no threat of disruption.
Of course, if NATO wants to turn over the table like a child who didn’t get their way, then we are all doomed. But baring that possibility, it’s curtains for Jewish-finance.
Here is a nice essay from E.M. Jones, a Catholic culture-warrior that makes the obvious case how Roe v. Wade was an important lynchpin in the globalists conjuring of the great American golem in the second half of the 20th century. I share this assesment and that is why I believe the undoing of it in the Supreme Court is such a momentous blow to their plan and will divide and fracture the United States to a greater degree. The fact that many here seem entirely willful in their ignorance of such a reality and how a divided country is no bueno for the globalists’ need of social cohesion to wage war on their “globalist other,” whether it be Putler, corona, or global warming, to me is rather unfortunate.
You should be celebrating. It is a great win for us in the anti-Empire camp. Sorry about your sacred cow, abortion. It had to go. Why?…because Russia is unstoppable.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 26 2022 20:53 utc | 85

Who do Neo-Cons (Jewish-Anglican-Vatican) think will fight their wars against Russia?
Retention and enlistment in all US branches of service approach zero. Today I see German Army — nothing to brag about anyway — sees twice the rate of conscientious objection submissions as to comparable time last year. US service academies are now fully “woke” and CRT-based, aborting competent military leadership.
And word is out to potential and serving US/NATO troops that Russian weapons overmatch anything they have, including F-22s. Like Western Ukrainians (Galicans), will the first to volunteer for annihilation raise their hand now!

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jun 26 2022 20:56 utc | 87

@ Dr. George W Oprisko | Jun 26 2022 18:20 utc | 54
I was thinking more of your own proposed ‘requirements’ than the RF’s original statements when I used the term ‘fantasy wish list’.
1. De-Nazification
2. De-Militarization
3. Secure western borders
4. NATO back to where it was in 1997
1 Requires killing all the NAZIS europe wide
2 Requires killing, imprisonment of, surrender of all UkroNazi armed forces and destruction of all their weaponry
3. Requires establishing control over the entirety of the FSU
4. Requires the total abject surrender of NATO
To put it bluntly, I think your interpretation of the RF requirements is far too extreme to be realistic.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 26 2022 21:02 utc | 89

rk @ 34
Best analysis seen in quite a while. I’ve been thinking approx the same, you framed it succinctly. Thank you.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 26 2022 21:07 utc | 91

@ oldhippie | Jun 26 2022 21:07 utc | 92
you sure about that?
Southern Ukraine is the priority in NATO’s planning

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2022 21:12 utc | 93

i see the nazi brigade nemesis, saggy & friends have entered the chat….

Posted by: vato | Jun 26 2022 21:18 utc | 95

The British establishment does not get tired of preparing for a nuclear apocalypse, inventing non-existent Russian statements on this matter. This is a convenient topic that is designed to divert attention from the internal political collapse of the British monarchy in the light of endless conspiracies, crises and simply corruption scandals. British Deputy Secretary of Defense James Hippie claims that Russia may use “tactical nuclear weapons” during a special operation in Ukraine. British Defense Minister Ben Wallace promised our pranksters Vovan and Lexus (he really thought he was talking to Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmygal) to discuss the creation of Ukraine’s nuclear missile program. Our favorite, Liz Truss, did not stand aside, talking about a potential conflict between Russia and NATO, to which even Russian President Vladimir Putin was forced to react.
It may seem to some that all this is a recent invention, and only now London has begun to frighten everyone with the Russian threat. But only to those who are not familiar with the history of the issue.
In my hands is now a bibliographic rarity, and then almost a bestseller – a book by an assistant professor at Lancaster University, Dr. Magnus Clark, under the catchy title “The Destruction of Britain in a Nuclear War”, which went on sale in the early days of 1982. It has been translated into Russian and is now available at the Russian State Library.
The book is a detailed reconstruction of the aftermath of the Soviet Union’s nuclear attack on the British Isles. The guys have been preparing for a long time, so to speak.
Everything has been verified: from the reasoned choice of targets for destruction to the date of the attack. The “Reds”, they say, will hit the monarchy on Christmas days, because it is at this time that the Kingdom is most vulnerable.
In fact, the Kingdom is most vulnerable at a time when professionals such as Boris Johnson, Ben Wallace and Liz Truss are appointed to key positions in the country. Thank the Queen, Clarke had no idea who would run his country, otherwise, I think, he himself would have carried out what was written.
At the same time, if we take a real story, it is obvious that there was no political background for the attack. In 1982, let me remind you, everything was a little different – it was London that unleashed an aggressive war against Argentina for the Malvinas Islands.
The book also contains sober assessments, for which today Magnus Clark would definitely be “cancelled”. But apparently they just forgot about it. Here he writes in the distant 80s: “… in essence, there has never been any Soviet threat to the West. The creation of NATO was not a response to the Soviet threat. The Soviet “military threat” was an invention of the United States, which from 1946 to the present has harbored a deep suspicion of the USSR, mainly because of its refusal to agree to American plans to “redraw the map of the world” … “; “According to Soviet notions, a war can only start with a surprise attack from the West.” Which does not stop Clark from further thought experiments in the spirit of British imperial thought.
Thus, Magnus Clarke writes that “… in the United Kingdom they continue to believe that the war can itself become nuclear, including a possible large-scale direct attack on the United Kingdom …”. How is it by itself?
The work ends just as paradoxically, if not schizophrenic. Magnus Clark seems to long for a speedy nuclear apocalypse (which, by the way, fully explains the choice of the volume’s title), claims that he will benefit the ruined Great Britain, regretting that they were not destined to survive the post-nuclear economic boom.
There is also something in the book for which these mental wastes of Western propaganda are still worth reading. The Briton writes: “Whatever the British estimates may be, they are most likely erroneous.” An excellent epigraph to the vast majority of such studies.
So what about the nuclear ash over London, dispelled in 50 years?

– Maria Zakharova

Posted by: ostro | Jun 26 2022 21:24 utc | 97

@ 22 malenkov
‘If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country’.
E.M. Forster

Posted by: WTFUD | Jun 26 2022 21:30 utc | 99