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June 10, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-83

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict ...

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From the Russians With Attitude Twitter account from a couple of days ago:

"Russian journalist Alexander Kots, a war reporter with over 20 years of experience in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Donbass & Karabakh, streamed a Q&A session about the war yesterday; here's a thread with a summary of what he said:

- The Ukrainians have excellent artillery training & equipment

- The AFU emphasize small unit tactics; this slowed down the Russian advance in the beginning of the war

- The Russian offensive routes largely matched with those the Ukrainians trained for in NATO exercises

- The border regions were full of photo traps & other surveillance equipment that gave the Ukrainians a good idea of what was happening militarily

- Even a full liberation of the DPR & LPR won't secure Donetsk from Ukrainian shelling bc of long-range weapon systems

- The seemingly senseless shelling of Donetsk is explained by Ukrainian attempts to cause discontent among civilians in the sense that the Russian Armed Forces cannot protect them

- The capture of Lisichansk will mark the full liberation of the LPR

- "Small cauldron" tactics & the slow advances are deliberate, but not the tactics of choice; Russians are advancing at best with a 1:1 ratio and often against a numerically superior enemy

- Prisoner exchanges are still taking place, but not mass exchanges, 15 for 15, 30 for 30

- The Ukrainian army generally refuses to pick up their dead despite being offered ceasefires to do so

- The average level of experience in the AFU has dropped significantly since the start of the war, it's now 20% professionals and 80% conscripts

- Ukrainian infantry is of very low quality in terms of training & morale; their artillery & special forces are decent

- The Ukrainians generally don't accept close quarter combat and retreat instead, but they usually do so in an organized manner

- The volunteers from all over Russia who are trained in Gudermes (Chechnya) are doing quite well in the war

- This scale of combat is seen for the first time since WW2; Kots has never worked in a conflict of this intensity

- Russia is not at war with Ukraine, but with the entire NATO infrastructure: intelligence, satellites, communications, military equipment, counter-battery systems, electronic warfare systems

- "Bayraktars" are absolute crap, they're fish in a barrel for any decent anti-air

- The Ukrainians are having problems with some munitions, e.g. their Smerch & Uragan MLRS systems rarely fire in volleys nowadays, mostly single shots

- Ukrainian artillery is often the only thing slowing down Russian advances

- Securing Donbass won't automatically win the war"

Meanwhile the RU MoD stated yesterday that 500 militants were eliminated in one day.

If only the Western order-givers and PR operatives would lead from the front...

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 10 2022 13:14 utc | 1

A new drone video has been published by the 4th Brigade of the LPR. Ukrainian positions are destroyed by artillery.

29th checkpoint, mortar battery of the 2nd SME of the 4th brigade of the LPR, crumbles dill. The more closely you look, the more you see.

https://t.me/Z4LPR/57

Mirrors: Russian Head, Colonel Cassad, Donbass Devushka

This was the Ukrainian "checkpoint 29" on the R66 road in the Lugansk People's Republic. It used to be a Pravyi Sektor Nazi base in 2016, with the Parvyi Sektor Nazi flag on the blockpost.

Mozgovoy's Communist Prizrak Brigade was based in the village of Donetskyi, just south of this road crossing. I visited the Prizrak Brigade in 2016. On Google maps (link) I have marked the last safe place one could go to. The area to the north was mined. Two Novorossiyan defenders had died when their car hit a mine. The car carcass was still there.

The Prizrak blockpost was on the R66 road, one kilometer to the east. Nazis face to face with Communists again!

The video must be old. The road was liberated a month ago.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 10 2022 13:40 utc | 2

Just noticing the headlines of outrage in the British tabloids re: the 2 British nationals just having received the death penalty for operating as mercenaries in Ukraine. I seem to recall that one of them had apparently been granted Ukrainian citizenship, if that matters. I wonder if there will be “Falklands moment” of collective outrage that unites the nation despite everything kinda going to shit. I suppose they could send a few challengers in to bust them out of jail, Basra style or better right the Light Brigade! Charge?

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 10 2022 13:52 utc | 3

@Chevrus #3
The Brits lost:

2 destroyers
2 frigates
1 landing ship
1 landing craft
1 container ship

24 helicopters
10 fighters

against a distinctly 2nd rate Argentinean military with a sprinkling of French gear in their "short victorious Falklands war". (source wiki)

Against the Russians, it would be many multiples worse.

I see zero interest in the actual populations anywhere in France, Germany, Netherlands, UK or US for direct war with the Russian army.
Many people including Ritter, MacGregor and others have noted that the vaunted US military is not likely to fare well against the Russian army on ground warfare - and that even the air combat isn't likely to produce a winner quickly.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 14:35 utc | 4

Even in the Daily Mail comments, there wasn't a lot of support for Aslin and the other one. I think a growing number of Brits are not happy with this war.

Posted by: NoOneYouKnow | Jun 10 2022 14:40 utc | 5

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 10 2022 13:52 utc | 3

I don't see the outrage in Britain turning to war though. Everybody's too uptight about the cost of living crisis, and Johnson is only interested in his own future. He's like Trump, and doesn't have the attention span for running a war.

Posted by: laguerre | Jun 10 2022 14:41 utc | 6

the brits ought to have an interest in what the reality is, as opposed to the ''military grade novichoked bullshit'' they are fed regularly.. it appears they don't...

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 14:46 utc | 7

the brits can keep on funding integrity initiative, bellingcrap and chatham house... that will work wonders...

really, if they had any sense they would stick to monty python and be done with it..

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 14:47 utc | 8

I was gonna go with The Mighty Bosh but they fell victim to cancel culture….ah well.

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 10 2022 14:52 utc | 9

NATO expands by abusing the word “Defensive”

The trick used by NATO

HERE https://abrahamstein.substack.com/p/if-nato-expansion-is-a-defensive

Posted by: Dean Oneil | Jun 10 2022 14:53 utc | 10

Ooops I dropped an ‘O’….that’s Boosh!
And for the record I also doubt that the Britzies re going to do anything especially without their Amerikanski body armor on, but i thought it a lively notion if only for the sake of comedy. As is often said: The dog barks and the caravan rolls on….

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 10 2022 14:55 utc | 11

don't worry, boris the clown and joe tzu will figure something out.... reminiscences of times past - blair and bush..

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 14:58 utc | 12

yawn... must be time for more sanctions... or maybe some other poodle would like to join nato??

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 15:01 utc | 13

maybe george soros can throw a few more billion around... that will help...

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 15:02 utc | 14

moaobserver - "Even a full liberation of the DPR & LPR won't secure Donetsk from Ukrainian shelling bc of long-range weapon systems"

This is something that has puzzled me for some time. So, I have a few questions.

What long-range weapons systems are being referred to, and what are their ranges?

Why can't the Russians identify the launch sites of the long-range weapons, via drones or satellites, and take them out?

Posted by: Saggy | Jun 10 2022 15:02 utc | 15

@ James

I am from the UK and I think your one-liners are spot on, we are a nation currently suffering a psychotic breakdown.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 10 2022 15:10 utc | 16

This from Tass via Yandex machine translation:

MOSCOW, June 10. /tass/. Up to 70 thousand Ukrainian military personnel may be in Slavyansk and its surrounding cities, said Deputy Minister of Information of the DPR Artem Olkhin on the air of the TV channel "Russia-1" on Friday.

"It is within Slavyansk itself that it is not very correct to count. If we look at the map of the Donbass, look to the north, there is one city flowing into another, that is, from Avdiivka to Slavyansk, almost one urban agglomeration. And there is a total grouping of troops (APU-approx. TASS), different experts call it differently, but 60-70 thousand exactly, " Olkhin said.

He added that there are no street battles in Slavyansk itself, but aviation is working in the sky over the city, and artillery duels are underway.


Posted by: pasha | Jun 10 2022 15:13 utc | 17

I so enjoyed the show last night as our congresscritters whinged and cried about a coup attempt, right after they sent billions to a regime established by a coup!

Posted by: ChrisHerz | Jun 10 2022 15:17 utc | 18

Another “Azovstal” happening in Severodonetsk

AZ OSINT
@AZmilitary1
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‼️Ukrainian militants at the Azot plant in Severodonetsk are trying to make contact, all ways for their withdrawal are cut off — LNR Ambassador to the Russian Federation

He also said that civilians may be at the plant, their exact number is still unknown‼️

Posted by: Down South | Jun 10 2022 15:17 utc | 19

@Saggy @14

The border of Donetsk Oblast is about 70km from the city, so even if the whole province is liberated, Tochka-U and BM-30 rocket systems would still be able to fire all the way to the city.

The Dnipro Oblast and parts of Zaporizhzhia Oblast including the city itself are still under UAF control.

The rocket systems mentioned are easy to hide and use "shoot and scoot" tactics. Especially with dense forest cover at this time of year they are hard to find.

If the Russians had USAF levels of spy sats and drones it would be easier, no doubt. One wonders for how much longer it will be possible to get anything in orbit before Elon Musk saturates LEO with his Starlink junk. Which is no doubt the idea - Trump formed the "Space Force" for a reason.

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 10 2022 15:17 utc | 20

are these british politicians concerned about assange?? make that a headline and help get the brits heads out from their asses... impossible, but worth a try...

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 15:20 utc | 21

@ : MarkU | Jun 10 2022 15:10 utc | 15

thanks mark.... the brits don't have anything up on canucks or americans for that matter - all as i see it... canucks and americans are fed this horseshit on a regular basis and many believe it.... i am sorry to say.. cheers james

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 15:21 utc | 22

From IntelSlava (they have resumed normal posting)

🇷🇺🇺🇦 The British Independent, citing an intelligence report, provides great analytics on the balance of Russian and Ukrainian forces.

▪️Ukrainian troops are 20 times inferior to Russian troops in artillery, 40 times in ammunition, and 12 times in range.

▪️The Ukrainian side has almost completely run out of missiles for the Smerch and Uragan MLRS.

▪️Ukraine still has the Grad MLRS and howitzers that hit a maximum of 20-30 km.

▪️ Anti-tank Javelins and NLAW were very useful in the first phase of the war, they are useful now, but they cannot hit the enemy's long-range artillery.

▪️The Russians can hit the concentrations of Ukrainian troops with rockets from a distance of many tens and even hundreds of kilometers. There is a situation of "absolute inequality on the battlefield, not to mention the complete dominance of enemy aircraft in the air." It is rare to shoot down Russian planes and helicopters.

▪️"Heavy fighting" has a serious demoralizing effect on Ukrainian troops, in connection with which the number of cases of desertion among Ukrainian soldiers is growing.

▪️The Russians are well aware that the number of powerful weapons sent by Western countries is still quite small, and it reaches the front slowly. So they try to use their (overwhelming) advantage while it lasts.

▪️After a series of exchanges, Ukraine has 550 captured Russians, while the Russians have more than 5,600 Ukrainians, and Moscow demands a 1:1 exchange. Note that according to the authorities of Russia and the LDNR, more than 7,000 people are in captivity.

Posted by: Down South | Jun 10 2022 15:22 utc | 23

last comment for a while - thank you to karlof1, richard steven hack, bevin and many other fantastic commentators on this site.. i really appreciate it..

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2022 15:22 utc | 24

Not sure why anyone (not living in a cave) thinks a NATO force (80% American) wouldn't immediately obliterate Putin's 1970s-esque SMO, as it is now, on the ground. I'm sure, however, that Putin is not deluded about this. For whatever cloudy reasons, he is deliberately dragging out this SMO, which while it boosts Russian oil revenue and accelerates the West's economic meltdown, it also relentlessly taunts NATO. And the West, if it is predictable about anything at all, loves to invent, and/or escalate wars in order to distract from its economic meltdowns. I doubt the impetus is much different for Russia in this case, either, but I digress. Does Putin want WW3? I can't believe that. Is he playing "chicken" with the bumbling fools running the US Deep State? Maybe. Or maybe Putin really is desperate to keep NATO out of the Ukraine, as he has publicly stated, because from the military perspective of OPTEMPO, Ukraine is a giant speedway for ground forces. But if the admitted reason is the real reason, than maybe Russia's military really is pathetically stuck in the 1970s. It clearly possesses modern tech, but likely not at the scale needed to sustain its use even during this Skirmish of the Potatoheads. He wouldn't want to use it and run out of it, thus revealing to his enemies (NATO) that Russia has only a few minutes of formidable war power at the ready. Regardless, I have a ton more respect for Putin than I ever have before. It appears he is the only one standing up against the Vampires of the Great Reset, although looks can be deceiving (e.g., Donald Delano, "Warp Speed" Trump).

Posted by: Tom SteChatte | Jun 10 2022 15:23 utc | 25

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 10 2022 13:52 utc | 3

You really should research that issue more thoroughly. London abandoned those SAS men in that prison in Basra and the SAS broke their own out disregarding London.

You really need to understand the political structures - Johnson and Wallace will abandon people - they are simply making a noise so the families do not sue Liz Truss. Johnson as Foreign Secretary left Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe in Iran in a hole and through stupid babbling had her sentence increased.

British Government is not going to do anything other than shriek

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Jun 10 2022 15:25 utc | 26

"..British Government is not going to do anything other than shriek."
Paul Greenwood@25
Yes, it is not as if these silly bastards were anything but 'lower class' is it? Now, if they had gone to Winchester...

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 15:35 utc | 27

@Chevrus #3

The Brits lost:

2 destroyers
2 frigates
1 landing ship
1 landing craft
1 container ship

24 helicopters
10 fighters

against a distinctly 2nd rate Argentinean military with a sprinkling of French gear in their "short victorious Falklands war". (source wiki)

Well worth it to give Maggie Thatcher the election. (not)

Posted by: Hereward | Jun 10 2022 15:42 utc | 28

The President has spoken.
[President of the CFR, Richard N. Haass]
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A Ukraine Strategy for the Long Haul
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https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russian-federation/2022-06-10/ukraine-strategy-long-haul
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THE LONG VIEW

The West thus needs a strategy for the long haul. Such a strategy would reflect an understanding that policy to date has largely succeeded
and that many of its features ought to be extended, but also that going forward, new elements will be required.

...

"the United States and its European allies should consider providing Ukraine with enhanced means (most likely aircraft) to attack Russian naval vessels in the Black Sea."

...
"Ultimately, what is probably required to end the war is a change not in Washington but in Moscow. In all likelihood, given Putin’s deep investment in the war, it will require someone other than him to take steps that would end Russia’s pariah status, economic crisis, and military quagmire. The West should make clear that it is ready to reward a new Russian leader prepared to take such steps even as it keeps up the pressure on the current one"

Posted by: librul | Jun 10 2022 15:45 utc | 29

The President has spoken.
[President of the CFR, Richard N. Haass]

A Ukraine Strategy for the Long Haul

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russian-federation/2022-06-10/ukraine-strategy-long-haul


THE LONG VIEW

The West thus needs a strategy for the long haul. Such a strategy would reflect an understanding that policy to date has largely succeeded
and that many of its features ought to be extended, but also that going forward, new elements will be required.

...

"the United States and its European allies should consider providing Ukraine with enhanced means (most likely aircraft) to attack Russian naval vessels in the Black Sea."

...
"Ultimately, what is probably required to end the war is a change not in Washington but in Moscow. In all likelihood, given Putin’s deep investment in the war, it will require someone other than him to take steps that would end Russia’s pariah status, economic crisis, and military quagmire. The West should make clear that it is ready to reward a new Russian leader prepared to take such steps even as it keeps up the pressure on the current one"

Posted by: librul | Jun 10 2022 15:47 utc | 30

@ Down South | Jun 10 2022 15:17 utc | 18
Ukrainian militants at the Azot plant in Severodonetsk are trying to make contact, all ways for their withdrawal are cut off — LNR Ambassador to the Russian Federation - He also said that civilians may be at the plant, their exact number is still unknown

from SouthFront
800 Civilians Taken Hostage In Azot Plant In Severodonetsk – Report
On June 8, the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova warned about the plans of the Ukrainian military to carry out another provocation in the city of Severodonetsk. Kiev’s forces are mining the containers with toxic chemicals at the Azot plant.

“According to Kiev’s plan, the explosion of tanks with more than 100 tons of saltpeter and nitric acid should delay the advance of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the republics of Donbass. Russia is supposed to be blamed for the man—made disaster, as always,” Zakharova said at a briefing. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2022 15:49 utc | 31

@Tom SteChatte | Jun 10 2022 15:23 utc | 24

Not sure why anyone (not living in a cave) thinks a NATO force (80% American) wouldn't immediately obliterate Putin's 1970s-esque SMO, as it is now, on the ground.
I think you might want to explain how living in a cave feels like. For starters, why is the opposite of the obliteration you speak of happening?

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 10 2022 15:57 utc | 32

Would anyone know where I can find reasonably credible statistics on the number of POWs held by Russia vs. Ukraine?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 10 2022 16:02 utc | 33

@ liburl #28

"The West thus needs a strategy for the long haul."

When your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail.

Posted by: Sledge | Jun 10 2022 16:09 utc | 34

"Ultimately, what is probably required to end the war is a change not in Washington but in Moscow. In all likelihood, given Putin’s deep investment in the war, it will require someone other than him to take steps that would end Russia’s pariah status, economic crisis, and military quagmire. The West should make clear that it is ready to reward a new Russian leader prepared to take such steps even as it keeps up the pressure on the current one"

I've said here before that the eternal strategy of the globally orientated sociopaths - aka the "rules-based international order" - is to recruit their fellow sociopaths to stab their countrymen in the back and so become members of the "big gang".

Here you see it stated openly.

They mean Kudrin and a few of his associates.

Kudrin is an obvious Eurocrat and "one of them". As Lenin said, he should be watched with both eyes. There will be plenty more like him.

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 10 2022 16:19 utc | 35

lol when have the americans obliterated any enemy that could put up meaningful resistance in the past 70 years or so?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 10 2022 16:32 utc | 36

I think the three condemned men made an error when they petitioned Britain for assistance. You can't have it both ways. You're Ukrainian or you're not.

Further, they were captured in the DPR (correct me if I am wrong). Since no one except Russia recognizes the DPR, they're not signatories to the Laws of War.

(Not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but I have avoided prison time for sixty years. It hasn't been all dumb luck.)

So if you're in the DPR, you might want to check out their laws and how they might apply to you. (My opinion.) Since everyone pretends the DPR and LPR don't exist, it would be kinda difficult for most western governments to come to your aid.

Posted by: Elizabeth Conley | Jun 10 2022 16:40 utc | 37

Tom SteChatte @24

Something that you clearly don't understand is that the Russians, for real and for true, are trying to minimize civilian casualties. When the society that you hail from does its warring you are well aware that the claims of your efforts being "humanitarian" and done to "minimize collateral damage" are just empty virtue signals that have nothing to do with how you conduct your killing. Any dead raghead or gook is a fair kill for you. Since you come from an "exceptional" society; indeed, the apex of human development in your opinion, you assume the Russians are at least as cruel and barbaric in their warring as you are in yours. You are entirely wrong about that, though.

The Russians have complete air superiority. Any Ukrainian aircraft that make it off the ground are immediately neutralized. The Russians posses the ability to carpet bomb the Ukraine from end to end. The only thing keeping the Russians from doing so is not any remaining Ukrainian air defenses or the risk of being cancelled from social media by armies of Twitterbots, but the sincere desire to do minimal harm.

This is probably impossible for you to comprehend, but it is true nonetheless.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2022 16:43 utc | 38

Hey now I wasn’t suggesting that the .Gov was going to do anything at all. I was merely reference it an event, and not asserting that the Basra event was sponsored by any party in particular. It’s informative to know that the breakout was initiated by their mates rather than a bunch of heartless bureaucrats a thousand miles away. The funny bit is all all the shrieking done by the side with the least amount leverage, the rest is just tragic.

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 10 2022 16:45 utc | 39

@Hereward #27:

Where is the Iron Witch now?!?

Hope it's freezing in that part of Hell where is she with her Ronnie!

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 10 2022 16:52 utc | 40

Part two of the Covert Action series on the Ukrainian Nationalists. This isn't just about Ukraine, indeed the connections between the OUN and Ukraine became very distant and faint over half a century. It was only after 1991 in the world that Yeltsin and Clinton made that they returned to any real strength. Ukrainian fascism didn't come from Ukraine but from Austria, the United States and Canada.

"After the end of the Second World War, American intelligence immediately set about the work of rehabilitating the world’s fascists to fight the new war on Communism. From the transformation of the bloody “Devil of Showa” Nobusuke Kishi into the hand-picked Prime Minister of Japan, to Emil Augsburg, the architect of the Holocaust described as “Honest and idealist … enjoys good food and wine…unprejudiced mind…” by the CIA, it seems that Langley never met a fascist it couldn’t do business with.

"Such was the case with Yaroslav Stetsko and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN). Stetsko spent the war in the shadow of Stepan Bandera but eventually Stetsko would far surpass his friend in terms of prominence. Before long, the monsters who had beaten Jews to death with hammers just years before became America’s favorite “freedom fighters” and took their business global.
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/06/10/how-monsters-who-had-beaten-jews-to-death-with-hammers-in-1944-became-americas-favorite-freedom-fighters-in-1945-with-a-little-help-from-their-friends-at-cia/

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 16:56 utc | 41

@ Tom¬ 24
That would be the vaunted US army that ran from the VietCong, The Mullahs in Afghanistan and turned tail in Syria as sooon as the Russians howed up. Your mighty victories against Grenada and panama have got the whole world quaking beneath its bedsheets

We all remember the one go to tactic in Vietnam...soon as a US marine hears enemy gunfire, he runs in the opposite direction and calls in an airstrike. Bloody brilliant!. Are you Lieutenan Dan from Forrest Gump?

Posted by: DaVinci | Jun 10 2022 17:05 utc | 42

Chevrus at #3. The only thing the MSM are capable of in the UK are lies, damn lies, fake news and faux outrage. Truss's response was, as usual, utterly ridiculous and off point. Whilst I am completely against the death penalty, there can be no doubt that these 3 men were mercenaries. Aslin stated on his blog, just at the start of this conflict,that he was going to be 'killing Russians' in the Ukraine. Pinner, well, his story was too "off pat" for me. I think he actually might be there under some capacity for Military Intelligence. They went there to fight and kill civilians and Russians and did it. They made partial guilty pleas. They have been given full legal representation, have had access to international human rights organisations throughout and have been treated fairly. Mercenaries are not covered by the Geneva Convention and they knew that when they went there to fight. They are not POW's as Britain, at least as far as I know, is not at War with the DPR. Also, they have omitted the fact that, Liz Truss, at the start of all of this, made clear statements, publicly and widely covered by the MSM in which she actively encouraged UK citizens to go to fight in the Ukraine and that they would be fully supported by the Govt to do so. They had a full and fair trial, were properly and fairly legally represented. However, there cannot now be any diplomacy in regard to the two British mercenaries as Truss and BoJo have completely blown that by being so insulting, petty and vitriolic towards Russia (and let's not forget Bojo's idiocy over the Skripal affair). Remember, these 3 men were captured by the DPR militia not the Russian Army and have been put on trial, accordingly, by the DPR legal system. I do believe that Aslin is heartily repentant but, as a mercenary he also fought in Syria (his YouTube name is Cossack Grundi I believe). He goes to these places to gratuitously kill people for money, end of. We have to get out of the habit in the UK of, when other Nation's Legal Systems do not suit us, trashing them as illegal, rubbish or corrupt. They are none of these things and ours isn't exactly a shining example of Justice (take a look at the Assange issue alone he has spent 12 years on Remand in a high security prison without having committed any crime whilst the UK Govt kow tow to the USA). These 3 men cannot and should not be Pardoned. However, there is a case for them being Sentenced to Life In Prison for their War Crimes. The people of the Donbass whose family, friends and relatives died, were tortured, or summarily executed by these types of Mercenaries, the UAF and AZOV deserve Justice too.

Posted by: Jo Dominich | Jun 10 2022 17:28 utc | 43

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2022 16:43 utc | 36

Also Russians know they soon will need Ukrainians to fight NATO ... so they want to keep as many as possible alive - and unhappy with the Western treatment they got.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 10 2022 17:37 utc | 44

Western (Enlightenment) Values at work, in the True North Strong but not Free.
(Not strong really either, unless you call doing what the CIA tells you "strong".)

"Resident of Mariupol Recalls What Ukrainian Nationalists Said About Local Children - Video"
(This channel can’t be displayed because it violated local laws.)

"Russian Forces Deliver Humanitarian Aid to Monastery in DPR Where Civilians Taking Refuge - Video"
(This channel can’t be displayed because it violated local laws.)

"Aftermath of Ukrainian Shelling of Makeevka in DPR - Video"
This channel can’t be displayed because it violated local laws.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 17:40 utc | 45

I'll repost what I posted last night about Ritter. I've also sent an email to The Duran requesting they get Martyanov on to refute Ritter's bullshit. The only reason I listened to that interview was someone in the thread said something about 700,000 Ukrainians under arms and how "De-Nazification" was going to stop at Donbass and I wanted to see if Ritter actually said something that stupid. Well, he did. I'm going to go over to Martyanov's blog and see if he has a reaction.

Listening to the last Ritter interview at Foreign Policy Review. Yes, he appears to have decided to interpret Lavrov's remark about "de-Nazification of Donbass" to conclude that "Russia has reached a pain point" and may be satisfied with the territorial gains they have and explicitly he said "will be willing to terminate military operations with a Nazi regime in place in Kiev" and a "massive Ukrainian army" - to be explicit, he believes Ukraine has 700,000 men under arms in Ukraine today.

He thinks Russia started the SMO with 200,000 troops, may have suffered 20,000 casualties and may have replaced those with 60,000 replacements, leaving a total of 240,000 Russian troops on the line. He says that doesn't mean Russia can't win, it can, but as he explicitly puts it, "the war will go on forever" because "it takes a lot of fighting to take down 700,000 men, many of whom are equipped with the most advanced weapons systems in Europe and the United States". He asks, "Does Russia want to do this?"

One of the interviewers quoted a Russian general as saying that Russia was taking almost no casualties. Ritter replied that he would tell that general to his face that he was lying. He then again states that M777 howitzers fire Excalibur rounds which are GPS guided - without mentioning that Russia has degraded GPS in Ukraine, allegedly even before the war started. He then claims "The Russians are being killed by the bushel full."

Then he claims "Severodonetsk has not fallen, anyone who it has don't know what they're talking about." So he's explicitly calling the Russian MoD liars, although he admits that the residential area is under Russian control and only the industrial sector is a "brutal fight".

Then he says while the Russians are slowed to a 100 meter advance, the Ukrainians are "bringing in a fresh brigade with modern equipment for digging a new line of fortifications."

Now he goes on to insult Andrei Martyanov by claiming that Andrei says "Russia has total ISR, they see everything that moves" and he claims "then why is Ukraine still showing operational mobility on the front lines, Andrei? It means the Russians can't see everything and they can't kill everything".

At this point I just stopped watching.

This shit is unacceptable. It's bullshit. I'm no longer paying any attention whatsoever to anything Ritter says. He is cherry-picking his "facts" and glossing them over with his assertions about "combat reality", which is little more than hand-waving.

Someone suggested The Duran needs to get Ritter and Martyanov on the show to argue it out. This needs to happen.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 10 2022 17:42 utc | 46

https://m.lenta.ru/news/2022/06/10/sovetchik/

British merc: Ukraine was the first time I met with artillery and MRLS.

Sorry? You was supposed to be a merc, a smoked, hard boiled war professional???

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 10 2022 17:54 utc | 47

Saggy | Jun 10 2022 15:02 utc | 14

NATO/US MLRS. They can operate a variety of missiles but some have a range of 300k or more.
Instead of blind volley fire the have guidance systems. I expect they would have inertial navigation as well as sat nav. Even with Russia jamming GPS signals I expect they would still be accurate enough for terror bombing Russian towns at maximum range.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2022 18:03 utc | 48

In response to Tom SteChatte@24,

Not sure why anyone (not living in a cave) thinks a NATO force (80% American) wouldn't immediately obliterate Putin's 1970s-esque SMO, as it is now, on the ground.

Could you elaborate on how you think that would look like? Suppose NATO formally declares itself a party to the conflict tomorrow, presupposing that all necessary preparations for taking that decision have already somehow taken place covertly (at least from the general public, leaving the status of Russian intel-prep intentionally ambiguous), what would the operation look like on a basic timeline? What would be the main objectives and primary methods of achieving those objectives?

I personally don't see how US+NATO forces, even if they were somehow fully mobilized to intervene in Ukraine (to their obvious detriment on other fronts), could put a dent in the Russian SMO without going for the strategic reserves in Russia proper. Any holding mission on Ukrainian territory would merely make Russian long-range systems more cost effective. NATO forces would at best be able to trickle up to the contact line in much the same fashion as the weapons shipments and, if the theater of war remains limited to Ukraine, they would in essence be fighting with both hands tied behind their backs against weapon systems well out of their reach.

The only way to militarily disable the Russian war machine would be to go after Russia itself and that's a very different discussion. Even if all the stars align and Russia fails to mobilize, China remains on the sidelines, Russian nuclear deterrent remains dormant throughout and we're left with strictly a land campaign, it would still by necessity amount to a prolonged campaign, on the territory of the largest nation on earth and hardly anything that could be described as immediate obliteration of one force by another.

In reality, the Russians would certainly go beyond mere defense and retaliate on targets outside of their territory with conventional weapons. China, among others, would not remain idle on the advent of WW3. Finally, in the event that a military resolution favorable to the continuation of Russian statehood is no longer attainable, the distinct possibility of total nuclear obliteration becomes a distinct possibility. It's crucial to keep such nuances in mind when tempted into simplistic force comparison.

Arguably, if Russia could accomplish its military objectives in Ukraine with a slingshot and a mule, maybe they would restrict themselves to that, and NATO still wouldn't be able to openly intervene to any great effect simply because escalation dominance in the region belongs to Russia.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 10 2022 18:15 utc | 49

In claiming to have no responsibility for Ukraine military choices and now that intellingence is unable to track Ukraine status and planning. It may be an effort to evade fault for possible failure but may also be preparing for deniability insurance should Ukraine do something particularly provocative.

Also while the west makes noises about possible failure or need for diplomatic off ramp. I am sure they are feverishly working to develop hypersonic cabability and enhance other technology and gleefully reloading stocks of ammunition. This of course being done on uncles credit card. It used to be said that us makes only pencils, but now only weapons and killing technology.

I am not sure the truth, but is a given that they are lying.

Posted by: jared | Jun 10 2022 18:34 utc | 50

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 10 2022 15:10 utc | 15

Every Western nation is suffering psychotic breakdowns Mark.
Hence all the moral panics on any subject you Care to mention.
Culture war's, identy politics, viral outbreak.

Posted by: Jpc | Jun 10 2022 18:44 utc | 51

You’ll have to forgive the merc. He previously fought against MLS-assisted artillery in the Zillow Wars during the time of NIRP. No one was prepared for the current environment.

Seriously though, would love to see a bid to exchange for Assange. Would be a tremendous PR win.

Posted by: dfg | Jun 10 2022 18:45 utc | 52

According to the Hal Turner show web site, the Germans will not be sending the Ukraine any more tanks. the reason is the Germans cannot build any new ones for their inventory-German Army. Why? They cannot buy any titanium? Why? Because Russia sells titanium - well not to the USA and EU or people sanctioning Russia.

Hal Turner said that there is no way that NATO-USA could fight or win on the battlefield against Russia because they cannot get titanium used in weapons, missiles, bombs, jets, tanks, etc. .

Posted by: Malko | Jun 10 2022 18:59 utc | 53

From @1

- The Ukrainians have excellent artillery training & equipment

- The AFU emphasize small unit tactics; this slowed down the Russian advance in the beginning of the war

- The Russian offensive routes largely matched with those the Ukrainians trained for in NATO exercises

- The border regions were full of photo traps & other surveillance equipment that gave the Ukrainians a good idea of what was happening militarily

- Even a full liberation of the DPR & LPR won't secure Donetsk from Ukrainian shelling bc of long-range weapon systems


In Ritter's first interview on Ukraine SMO (I think with the Duran?) he explained very well "shaping the battle field" in regards to the first phase of the SMO.
Russian intel is very good. Military church services were held for the forces that were to head into Ukraine and going by the videos many attended. They knew they were heading into a well laid trap and some, perhaps many would die. (as per those points from Kots)

Some dash cam footage shows how fast that initial move into Ukraine was.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tpKUMGQh9HJc/

Putin has said Ukraine itself is not the main thing. "Shaping the battlefield"? Ukraine has been used to shape the global battlefield. Take a look at the changes taking place in the world since Putin announced recognition of the two republics.

The first phase was very fast - to break through the trap and secure a number of objectives. Nuclear, bio, Azov and what I believe to have been Nato headquarters. Once Azov and Nato were securely locked in Mariupol, the pace slowed considerably.

Time is required for the changes taking place in the world. Trade, supply chains, payment systems without the US dollar and swift.
Also there is a changing attitude occurring. This is the second time Russia has faced down the US, first in Syria, now in a much bigger way in Ukraine - though Crimea could be added to that list.
A good example of that change is Saudi Arabia refusing a Biden visit. Bonesaw sees which way the wind is blowing. India and China now on much better terms diplomatically plus there are many other small signs around the world that US is losing its grip as the hegemon.

A global battlefield to destroy the hegemon - Ukraine a small part but important as a catalyst for global change.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2022 19:05 utc | 54

Tom SteChatte, 24:

> Not sure why anyone (not living in a cave) thinks a NATO force (80% American) wouldn't immediately obliterate Putin's 1970s-esque SMO, as it is now, on the ground.

Are you open to the possibility that Russia aren't in a standard US "blow everyone and everything to tiny pieces" mode?


Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 19:20 utc | 55

I really love the “US/NATO would crush Russia!” Claims. Is this the NATO including France which recently estimated it has approximately 2 weeks of ammunition at the conflict intensity of Ukraine? Is this the US that’s on the other side of the planet and required months to place the 300K for Iraq? Or is it the Germans with their 300 modern tanks who will roll to Moscow? Maybe it’s the USAF that’s never flown against competent air defenses? Or the USN air wing who’s carrier in the med is certain to last more than a day in a real war?

Clearly some are just trolls, but not all. There really are people who believe that the US fields the greatest military in all of history, even after losing every one of its long string of wars since 1945. Americans are not serious people.

Posted by: Lex | Jun 10 2022 19:21 utc | 56

lol when have the americans obliterated any enemy that could put up meaningful resistance in the past 70 years or so?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 10 2022 16:32 utc | 34


I am 74 and recall two glorious victories:

In Grenada we ran roughshod over 3 DOZEN college radicals and a Cuban construction crew.

In Panama we got all that drug money from the Banks.

Posted by: Rhinecto | Jun 10 2022 19:27 utc | 57

re: titanium
from realcleardefense, some quotes:

As the U.S., U.K. and European Union have punished Russia by sanctioning most meaningful Russian entities, titanium and other metals remain un-sanctioned. Neither Washington, London nor Brussels have banned the import of Russian titanium, with the E.U. explicitly excluding Russian metals from its sanctions package, likely due to E.U.-based aerospace company Airbus’ reliance on Russian titanium.

In short, the free world[sic] has signaled its vulnerability. While Western nations want to economically isolate Russia, they simply haven’t diversified their supply chains to insulate defense contractors and commercial jet firms from geopolitical rivals. This dynamic was dangerous during the Cold War and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine could make today just as perilous. Ukraine boasts plentiful titanium reserves, advanced processing facilities and enviable human capital.
Russia has low titanium mineral reserves.
"In 2021 Ukraine was the leading source of titanium mineral concentrates imports into Russia," USGS said. "Other leading sources included Vietnam, Mozambique and Kazakhstan."

It's not unthinkable that Russia would cut off its enemies from some of its most valuable commodities, as it did in the ‘60s. This, of course, would leave the U.S. and Europe increasingly reliant on the world’s top titanium producer, China . . .By looking backward, in this case to the Cold War, it is clear to see that being in a position in which a superpower is reliant on its greatest enemy is not just risky, but unsustainable. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2022 19:27 utc | 58

Regarding Russias objectives, might one not say that taking Mariupol meant some degree of de-nazification? I mean, quite a few AZOV battalion fighters have taken a beating ...

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 19:32 utc | 59

Lex, 54:

> Maybe it’s the USAF that’s never flown against competent air defenses?

Ha ha!

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 19:38 utc | 60

Malko @51
There is of course the slight possibility that west has already manufactured a few hundred jets,bombs tanks etc. that are needed. I understand that only materiel from west gets destroyed or used, but still, maybe something to take into account for worst possible scenarios Like if Russia can only field tanks from the sixties. No titanium needed,you understand :)

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 10 2022 19:40 utc | 61

Tom SteChatte @24,

"Not sure why anyone (not living in a cave) thinks a NATO force (80% American) wouldn't immediately obliterate Putin's 1970s-esque SMO, as it is now, on the ground."

You have little knowledge of the current Russian military and even less about the current American military. First of all, it is noteworthy that the American and Russian militaries have never faced off against one another except with proxies. Certainly, the Americans would not want to do so currently. Even in the 1970's, Russian SAMs shot down almost 4000 American warplanes and almost 6000 helicopters in Vietnam. Check it out. While American fighters have gone through two generational upgrades, Russian SAMs have undergone even more advances.
Russian armed forces have superior jamming capabilities-- a real problem for the U.S. since it relies so heavily on electronic communications--and hypersonic missiles since 2017. The U.S. still hasn't a single hypersonic missile. The NATO equipment already delivered to Ukraine is plagued with embarrassing malfunctions such as jamming and battery-pack problems. And the American reliance on the F-35 is very problematic, since it is a very slow aircraft and less maneuverable and, like the F-22, plagued with maintenance issues.
Then there is the organic component of the military conflict. In my opinion, the current U.S. military is beset with much lower standards, poorer leadership, and lower morale than two decades go. Defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan have definitely not helped the latter.

Posted by: FHTEX | Jun 10 2022 19:42 utc | 62

Lex, 54:

> There really are people who believe that the US fields the greatest military in all of history, even after losing every one of its long string of wars since 1945.

Beware of the mighty US military that never fear trampling over ill equipped "armies"!

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 19:45 utc | 63

Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 19:32 utc | 57

Mariupol was Azov's base. Their headquarters were located there as was the bulk of the fighters.
Apparently Azov are Nazi's without much or any of the Galician Ukraine nationalism. They were supposedly the elite fighting force of Ukraine and had the best equipment and training.

Azov also controls many or most parts of Ukraine government. Head of the National police, Interior ministry, they would also have high positions in the SBU ect ect.
Other nationalist/nazi groups apparently subsumed under them, plus offshoots like Kraken which was formed in the first days of the SMO and are based at Kharkov. From what I read some time ago, the nucleus ore core of Kraken are criminals released from prison. Some I think from Tornado battalion which had been too rough even for Ukraine standards and jailed.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2022 19:50 utc | 64

@60 War buffs would certainly be interested in seeing a mixed-gender Marine unit take on a squad of Chechens.

Posted by: dh | Jun 10 2022 19:57 utc | 65

Maps of the world available in the West generally cut the the world in the middle of the Pacific. This sort of makes sense because so much of the Pacific Ocean is open ocean.
However it also puts Europe in the center, and the America's close to the center. China is sideline. I have even seen maps with Russia split onto both the left and right edges of the map.
I have a Chinese world map on my wall. It splits the world in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. China, Russia and Australia are closest to the center.

Posted by: HelenB | Jun 10 2022 19:58 utc | 66

1970's military operation? LMFAO! In response to the 1914 tactics Ukraine and their Nato handlers implemented? Seriously, the imperial establishment and their heralds are losing it...

Lets talk about some of these myths I see here about satellites and drones. There are some gross misunderstandings of these technologies being displayed on here. Russia makes great use of both but some here have exaggerated conceptions of the respective capabilities of these equipment and what they are capable of. You can not stop random shelling by the Ukies with either, any more than murica has been able to stop militias from shelling it's bases in Iraq with rockets. Satellites can only give a snap shot of what is there when it passes overhead. Not useful to real time issues like shoot and scoot artillery. And while drones are good for tactical surveillance, their slow speed and limited line of sight make them problematic for the kind of always on guard defense some are imagining. You would need tens if not hundreds of thousands of drones up 24/7 to cover the area we are talking about. The west has no point of reference to understand what is happening here. The turkey shoot in Iraq has warped their already limited cognitive abilities.

Finally, this idea that the republics wont be safe from missile attack by just pushing the ukies out of their borders.... sigh.... again, it's not 1914. It's called airstrikes and cruise missile attacks. Look into it.

Posted by: nook | Jun 10 2022 19:59 utc | 67

I've not seen any comment yet on Merkel's apparent admission a few days ago that she never had any intention of implementing the Minsk agreements, and the "initiative “bought” Kiev time to prepare politically and militarily to confront Russia". https://www.rt.com/news/556779-merkel-russia-ukraine-nato/ It must now be crystal clear to the Russians that they simply cannot deal with western regimes, the only language they understand is brute force. The only course for Russia going forward - once Ukraine has been dealt with - is to insist that all the border states become neutral or face the same fate. It's appalling it's come to this, but here in the west we are essentially ruled by gangsters.

Posted by: ManintheMoon | Jun 10 2022 20:00 utc | 68

Receiving a little attention here and there is, for me, the core reality of this SMO: who is right and who is wrong?

This is a spiritual inquiry, not a military or moral, much less a political or economic, inquiry.

Russia is winning this battle, and the war it illuminates, because she is right and Jewish-Anglican-Vatican atheists aka Fascists aka "combined West" are wrong.

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jun 10 2022 20:04 utc | 69

The two Brits scumbag mercenaries Aslin and Pinner are cited as prisoners of war by no less than the UK Foreign Minister Liz Truss who arrogantly refers to the DPR as Russian proxies. This suggests she classifies them as UK military personnel along with UK Special Forces and Military Trainers all currently operating in support of the Ukrainian VSU. She unequivocally states they are captured prisoners of war which by definition means the UK is fighting in Ukraine against Russia in open conflict. This is confirmation that in pursuing a policy of provocation and warmongering against Russia the UK is now openly admitting that subjects of the UK (including Aslin and Pinner) are at war with Russia. This is nothing short of an extreme Faustian nightmare created by a ruling class that is desperate to preserve the financialised rentier economy and Western global hegemony at all costs!

Posted by: Rick | Jun 10 2022 20:09 utc | 70

FHTEX, 60:

> And the American reliance on the F-35 is very problematic, since it is a very slow aircraft and less maneuverable and, like the F-22, plagued with maintenance issues.

Norway upgraded from F-16 to F-35. Wish we were friends with the Russians instead; a flock of modern Sukhois would have been great.

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 20:11 utc | 71

@ ManintheMoon | Jun 10 2022 20:00 utc | 66

Unfortunately, here in the UK your link will not work. Not that it is news to me that the Germans had no intention of honouring the Minsk agreements, a public admission of that is new though.

When meaningful agreements cannot be made, then force is the only option remaining.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 10 2022 20:12 utc | 72

Americans are not serious people.

Posted by: Lex | Jun 10 2022 19:21 utc | 54

Have to agree with you.

I'm appalled at the behavior here of just about everyone. All I see is total self centeredness combined with a complete lack of concern for anything substantive.

And re: Ukraine?? Just pathetic.

In so fed up, I may just throw in the towel and finish my remaining years in a warm, tropical climate far away from the inevitable (as I see it) implosion.

Posted by: Michigan Dude | Jun 10 2022 20:13 utc | 73

Posted by: The Rev. David R. Gr | Jun 10 2022 20:04 utc | 67

They aren't making a good case for their own moral superiority, that is sure.

But I think they take that as a postulate, "we are the good guys, we want to create paradise, so anybody who gets in our way is impeding progress ..."

It's an old racket.

I must say, as a westerner born and raised, I find this outburst of pure Russophobia odd, haven't seen it in a long time, since the days when the John Birch Society was thought well of here, but there it is now boy.

It is like we cannot deal with any of our real problems so we choose the stupidest fake one to bet the collective farm on.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 10 2022 20:13 utc | 74

Regarding F-35s, when will the US "give" some of those to Ukraina? I mean, they must surly be a game changer ... or maybe not?

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 20:15 utc | 75

Ritter suggests that Ukrainian regulars have been moved to France and Poland for a 40 day training on the new weapons being provided by the West. These are guys who already have experience with artillery so it isn't like they are being trained from scratch. If so, then the "stay in the Donbas at all costs" strategy makes a little more sense. Ritter also says the new artillery amounts to 20 battalions of tubes. The US Marines have only 11 Battalion.

He also points out that Lavrov has changed Russia's objective to denazification in "Eastern Ukraine".

Posted by: John Kauai | Jun 10 2022 20:24 utc | 76

dh | Jun 10 2022 19:57 utc | 63

"@60 War buffs would certainly be interested in seeing a mixed-gender Marine unit take on a squad of Chechens."

Well the Borderlands aren't that far away from where the ancient Sarmatae and Amazons were supposed to have flourished. Maybe when the cowards at NATO pull themselves together to openly fight Russia they'll do better with all-female units. God knows they have no men.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 10 2022 20:27 utc | 77

Rhinecto | Jun 10 2022 19:27 utc | 55


I am 74 and recall two glorious victories:

In Grenada we ran roughshod over 3 DOZEN college radicals and a Cuban construction crew.

In Panama we got all that drug money from the Banks.

Your memory fails you. The US army after having run roughshod over 3 DOZEN college radicals was forced to negotiate a ceasefire with the Cubans.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 10 2022 20:27 utc | 78

About a month ago I again linked to the Heritage Foundation's independent assessment of the Outlaw US Empire's military in response to the same sorts of statements appearing on this thread. The opening page to the entire assessment is linked above. This links to the report's conclusion, which states:

"In the aggregate, the United States’ military posture is rated 'marginal.' The 2022 Index concludes that the current U.S. military force is likely capable of meeting the demands of a single major regional conflict while also attending to various presence and engagement activities but that it would be very hard-pressed to do more and certainly would be ill-equipped to handle two nearly simultaneous major regional contingencies.

"In general, the military services have continued to prioritize readiness and have seen improvement over the past couple of years, but modernization programs continue to suffer as the failure of resources to keep pace with inflation leads to cancelations, truncation, or delay. The services have normalized the reduction in size and number of military units, and the forces remain well below the level they need to meet the two-MRC benchmark." [Emphasis Original]

Just above the statement is a report card rating each service branch. The report says 2022 but was published in October of last year meaning the data used is now over a year old. What's occurred in the interim is unlikely to improve the overall grade and very likely to degrade it further, particularly when we factor in the reality of battlefield weapon performance, which is to say the lack thereof. The need to issue bounties/bonuses for enlistment into key combat MOSs bodes ill for all branches, but the Army especially: Very Strong Readiness is no replacement for Weak Capacity and Marginal Capability. MIC profits are utterly useless as weapons or ordinance.

If a similar report on NATO were available, it would very likely show a similar outcome since the Outlaw US Empire's military is to come to the rescue of European forces. China just took advantage of this glaring weakness in its meeting today with SecDef Austin, "Beijing to 'Smash to Smithereens' Any 'Taiwan Independence' Plot, China Defence Chief Warns US". I can't recall any nation saying anything that strong directly to the face of any Outlaw US Empire official.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 20:30 utc | 79

In The Guardian today;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/ukraine-casualty-rate-russia-war-tipping-point

Dan Sabbagh - Defense and Security Editor - writes that “Ukraine’s high casualty rate could bring war to tipping point”.

After the usual caveats the implications of the recent statistic of 600-1000 UAF casualties a day (killed and wounded) - appears to have sunk in.

His conclusion:

“Ukraine is not short on bravery and determination. Western support is still in place, as shown by the UK announcement to supply a handful of – perhaps three – multiple rocket launchers this week, even if Kyiv said almost immediately it wanted many times more. But it is Russia’s forces that have found a way to advance in the Donbas, raising the question of whether the three-month war is at another turning point.”

Posted by: Moaobserver | Jun 10 2022 20:33 utc | 80

We have the best military, but can't use it to win because our enemies would learn how to do it too.

Joe Tzu

Posted by: albagen | Jun 10 2022 20:37 utc | 81

Your memory fails you. The US army after having run roughshod over 3 DOZEN college radicals was forced to negotiate a ceasefire with the Cubans.
Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 10 2022 20:27 utc | 76

Not according to Heartbreak Ridge!

Posted by: Jpc | Jun 10 2022 20:38 utc | 82

You dont need to argue since arguments could mean agreement

Joe Tzu

Posted by: Macpott | Jun 10 2022 20:38 utc | 83

For my second term, my first electoral promise will be to have my salary as president paid in rubles to deprive evil Putin of the means to increase his malign behavior. By the way, I feel inspired by Van der Leyen, she's a genius thinker.

Joe Tzu

Posted by: albagen | Jun 10 2022 20:43 utc | 84

dh @63
For sure, millions interested in that. But I have never heard of Kadyrovs people confronting anybody who doesnt have their hands tied behind their back and on their knees. Still, they could surprise some one armed bandit ;)

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 10 2022 20:50 utc | 85

@ Tom SteChatte | Jun 10 2022 15:23 utc | 24

The only advantage the US/NATO have over the RF is weight of numbers and even then I have my doubts that the thoroughly emasculated western male is up to the job. While the US/NATO countries spend much more on the military, most of it is spent on equipment that is over-priced, over-rated and lacking in durability. You only have to look at the F-35 and the LCS's, equipment that is primarily designed not for purpose but to make money for defence contractors, obsolete even as it enters service. Our so-called leaders are no more than a bunch of compliant arse-kissers, chosen only because they are on-message. People such as Lavrov are as giants when compared to their western counterparts who are but empty suits parroting lies (and not even good at that)

The West is literally rotting away, infrastructure neglected and social capital deliberately destroyed as a divide and conquer tactic. The dumbing down of our education system in order to make the masses more compliant has had the inevitable consequence of throwing away our technological lead. It seems to me that the near term future is bleak indeed and a total collapse may be required in order to regain our contact with reality.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 10 2022 20:50 utc | 86

@ 44

Let Ritter drill himself a new a**hole.

No value Andrei wasting time debating with someone who's been captured, warned off. Ritter has to live with his own limitations.

Posted by: WTFUD | Jun 10 2022 20:52 utc | 87

karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 20:30 utc | 77

"This links to the report's conclusion, which states:

"The 2022 Index concludes that the current U.S. military force is likely capable of meeting the demands of a single major regional conflict while also attending to various presence and engagement activities but that it would be very hard-pressed to do more and certainly would be ill-equipped to handle two nearly simultaneous major regional contingencies."

I suspect that exaggerates by one the number of major regional conflicts they could handle. Just like we already know the Zionist army can't handle Hezbollah one on one.

I remember how back in the 90s the US military was supposed to be configured to fight and win two simultaneous theater wars (I think Iran and North Korea was the example most often given). I doubt they ever even fleetingly attained that capability.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 10 2022 20:54 utc | 88

Karlof1 @77
Not old enough to have watched Iraqi defense ministers press conferences?
Just kidding, But really,most every adversary has said it. How much they have to back it up is another matter. For example, the chinese, to their credit, don’t really have battle hardened troops at the moment. Hope it stays that way.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 10 2022 20:58 utc | 89

Don Bacon #56

Thank you for that titanium report :)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 10 2022 21:01 utc | 90

In 2013, while watching Maidan happening in Kiev, I said Russia will never allow Kiev to be in the EU. I watched green men taking over Crimea in 2014. Russia would never allow their Hero cities to be taken over by EU/NATO, so the Americans can destroy them culturally. Kiev and Odessa are/were Soviet/Russia Hero cities, so have to come back to Russia.

Russia is not using its top armament yet, except the Kalibres, Iskanders and few other hypersonic missiles. Russia has not attacked, bombed any culturally valuable places/buildings in Kiev or Odessa. It won't in the future. Kiev will come back to Russia one way or another, Odessa too. And, the cities will be intact, except Ze the Jew would decide to destroy/damage them.

Those, who thinks that the US is safe, have look at the US Congressional Budget Office map in Martyanov's February 24, 2021 blog post https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2021/02/now-they-finally-admitted-it.html Well, not from whoever who has nuclear submarines with hypersonic long range missiles. The US won't even know, who hit them, where the missiles come from, for they are too damn fast.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 10 2022 21:07 utc | 91

The US military has done a superb job of mass murdering poor brown people around the earth.

It has also accomplished the goal of killing and maiming its own soldiers, sailors, marines, air force personnel. It has deafened them, blinded them, crippled them, sprayed them with agent orange, gave them permanent nervous system disorders, PTSD, got them severe cases of malaria and fevers over 105 degrees which likely brought on Parkinson's Disease later in life.

Then it did its best to cheat them out of pay and benefits.

Oddly, many of these men, even as they suffer, still wax poetic about their military "service".

Disney does a great job at Patriotic Propaganda.

It might as well be a branch of the CIA.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jun 10 2022 21:14 utc | 92

ostro @89--

On the previous thread, you posted a translated article. I subsequently requested that you provide the article's URL. I'd appreciate it if you'd honor that request.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 21:22 utc | 93

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 20:30 utc | 77

"In the aggregate, the United States’ military posture is rated 'marginal.' The 2022 Index concludes that the current U.S. military force is likely capable of meeting the demands of a single major regional conflict while also attending to various presence and engagement activities but that it would be very hard-pressed to do more and certainly would be ill-equipped to handle two nearly simultaneous major regional contingencies."

I don't believe they could meet one MRC except by long-range missiles and bombing. Not on the ground with a major power like Russia or China. Heck, soon they might not be able to afford the amount of gas they would need to transport armies over the Atlantic or Pacific in order to get them in the field. Nope: no large scale field ops on the menu, ever.

It's so obvious people keep refusing to see it or accept it: America is being taken down from the inside as well as now being helped by external factors like world wide plandemics and now bloc-isolating sanctions.

Just a matter of time now...

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 10 2022 21:22 utc | 94

John Kauai | Jun 10 2022 20:24 utc | 74

Russia has begun operating SU-57's over Ukraine for the specific purpose of detecting and eliminating the last of Ukraine's air defences. Russia main target at the start was the elimination of main air defence radars and had been eliminating launchers as they find them.

I think this may be preparation to enable the destruction of any heavy and long range weapons before they reach the battlefield.

As for Lavrov's statement, I think that is more to do with the current phase of the operation. Ritter, like many has not yet grasped the global scale of what is occurring. Russia and China are setting up the circumstances in which the US will destroy itself as a global power.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2022 21:24 utc | 95

Joe6pack, 83:

> For sure, millions interested in that. But I have never heard of Kadyrovs people confronting anybody who doesnt have their hands tied behind their back and on their knees. Still, they could surprise some one armed bandit ;)

You haven't heard much then, have you?

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 21:28 utc | 96

ostro | Jun 10 2022 21:07 utc | 89


Russia is not using its top armament yet, except the Kalibres, Iskanders and few other hypersonic missiles. Russia has not attacked, bombed any culturally valuable places/buildings in Kiev or Odessa. It won't in the future. Kiev will come back to Russia one way or another, Odessa too. And, the cities will be intact, except Ze the Jew would decide to destroy/damage them.

That is why I am taking a different view of Russia's plans/strategy for the SMO to most. 60% or more of Mariupol was destroyed and will require rebuilding. Same for the towns where battles are occurring.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2022 21:33 utc | 97

The US and their european vassals want to destroy Russia and her people. Yet Russia is still selling them precious essential commodities. I don't understand this. Could someone enlighten me?

Posted by: B.Mowo | Jun 10 2022 21:35 utc | 98

Chaka Khagan @ 90

Disney is definitely a part of CIA. Mockingbird.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 10 2022 21:37 utc | 99

Peter AU1, 95:

> That is why I am taking a different view of Russia's plans/strategy for the SMO to most. 60% or more of Mariupol was destroyed and will require rebuilding. Same for the towns where battles are occurring.

Will the resistance be as stiff in other major cities? Ukrainas army aren't exactly getting stronger ...

Posted by: Mr Y | Jun 10 2022 21:40 utc | 100

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