Trudeau Is Lying – Canadian Air Patrols Near China Are Not On ‘UN Mission’

June 16, 2022

Canada falsely claims that it is implementing international law when its airplanes are in fact spying on China.

On June 2 the Canadian Globe & Mail reported of a Chinese interdiction of a Canadian reconnaissance aircraft:

Canadian military accuses Chinese warplanes of harassing its patrol aircraft on North Korea sanctions mission

Canada’s military has accused Chinese warplanes of harassing its patrol aircraft as they monitor North Korea sanction evasions, sometimes forcing Canadian planes to divert from their flight paths.

On several occasions from April 26 to May 26, aircraft of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) approached a Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CP-140 Aurora long-range patrol aircraft, the Canadian Armed Forces said in a statement on Wednesday.
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Such interactions are of concern and of increasing frequency, the Canadian military said, noting that the missions occur during United Nations-approved operations to implement sanctions on North Korea.

The Canadian aircraft were part of Ottawa’s “Operation NEON”, which sees military ships, aircraft and personnel deployed to identify suspected sanctions evasions at sea, including ship-to-ship transfers of fuel and other supplies banned by United Nations Security Council resolutions.

Did the United Nations really give Canada a mission or even a right to identify sanction evasions at high sea or near North Korea? I would find that astonishing.

Four days later the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked about the incidents. His answers came after China had explained its position:

China’s foreign ministry is warning Canada that provoking Beijing could bring “grave consequences” after the Canadian military last week accused Chinese warplanes of harassing its aircraft, which are monitoring North Korea’s compliance with United Nations sanctions.

Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Zhao Lijian suggested during a media briefing in Beijing on Monday that these patrols by Canadian and allied aircraft are illegal. “The UN Security Council has never authorized any country to carry out military surveillance in the seas and airspace of other countries in the name of enforcing sanctions,” he told reporters.

Trudeau's response to that is somewhat muddled:

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in response, defended the patrols, which he said are part of a multinational effort to enforce UN sanctions. He warned Beijing that pilots on both sides are in danger of behind hurt or killed by China’s behaviour.

“China’s actions are irresponsible and provocative in this case, and we will continue to register strongly that they are putting people at risk while at the same time not respecting decisions by the UN to enforce UN sanctions on North Korea,” he told reporters during a press conference in Ottawa with Chile’s President on Monday.

Chinese fighter pilots have recently stepped up aggressive behaviour against Canadian military aircraft flying in international airspace near North Korea.

A "a multinational effort to enforce UN sanctions" is something different than a "United Nations-approved operations to implement sanctions on North Korea" which the Canadian military claimed.

Since 2019, Canada has from time to time dispatched a naval frigate or long-range patrol aircraft to help monitor ocean approaches to North Korea as part of a multinational approach, with the United States and other allies, to enforce sanctions against Pyongyang over its nuclear weapons program. The area under patrol includes the contested East China Sea, above which China established an aircraft defence identification zone in 2013.

The 'multinational' behind the effort are the U.S. and its usual proxies. But if that were a UN or UN approved mission China and Russia must have agreed to it at the UN Security Council. They never did.

Still Trudeau insists on the UN smoke screen:

“Canada is participating in a UN mission designed to interdict and intercept and ensure the respect of sanctions on North Korea’s murderous regime,” the Prime Minister said. “Canada continues to stand up for the rule of law. We continue to stand up for multilateralism. We continue to stand up for the principles of the UN Charter.”

I find no news of formal paper that says the UN has ever designed or asked for any such mission.

There are a total of nine UN Security Council resolutions against North Korea. The relevant here is UNSCR 1718 from 2006. In paragraph 8 it asks member countries to implement certain sanctions:

Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations, and taking measures under its Article 41 …
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8. Decides that:

(a) All Member States shall prevent the direct or indirect supply, sale or transfer to the DPRK, through their territories or by their nationals, or using their flag vessels or aircraft, and whether or not originating in their territories, of:

[… a list of certain weapon systems and materials.]

That paragraph restricts any measure countries can take with UNSC agreement to territory, nationals or vessels under their control. It does not authorize to do anything to other territories, nationals or to foreign flagged vessels or to act against such vessels at high sea.

Paragraph 8d, which is about financial sanctions, has similar restrictions:

d) All Member States shall, in accordance with their respective legal processes, freeze immediately the funds, other financial assets and economic resources which are on their territories at the date of the adoption of this resolution or at any time thereafter, …

UNSC resolution 2094 from 2013 added additional sanctions but included the same territorial restrictions:

11. Decides that Member States shall, in addition to implementing their obligations pursuant to paragraphs 8 (d) and (e) of resolution 1718 (2006), prevent the provision of financial services or the transfer to, through, or from their territory, or to or by their nationals or entities organized under their laws (including branches abroad), or persons or financial institutions in their territory, …

In fact all UNSC resolutions I am aware of, except those few which directly allow for a war, have similar restrictions. Orders or request to UN member countries for implementing sanctions or to take other measure are always restricted to those things or persons the country legally controls. The reasons for that are obvious. It would breach the rights of other countries if the UN would allow Canada or anyone else to interfere outside of their own legal realm.

The Canadian military's claim that its planes are on a "United Nations-approved operations" is false. There is no UN approval for such operations.

The Canadian Prime Minister's claim of participating in a "UN mission" is false. There is no such mission with regard to the DPRK.

The Canadian spy planes flying near the Chinese border are not implementing international law. That is simply a subterfuge of their real mission which is in fact spying on China.

Trudeau should be reminded of the 2001 incident near Hainan Island where a Chinese jet collided with a U.S. spy plane which then had to make an emergency landing in China:

The 24 crew members (21 men and 3 women) were detained for 10 days in total, and were released shortly after the U.S. issued the "letter of the two sorries" to the Chinese. The crew was only partially successful in their destruction of classified material, and some of the material they failed to destroy included cryptographic keys, signals intelligence manuals, and the names of National Security Agency employees. Some of the captured computers contained detailed information for processing PROFORMA communications from North Korea, Russia, Vietnam, China and other countries. The plane also carried information on the emitter parameters for U.S.-allied radar systems worldwide. The fact that the United States could track PLAN submarines via signal transmission was also revealed to China.

The U.S. now largely avoids such missions. It instead ordered Canada (and Australia) to do these, passing the risk to them. Pissing off China by making false claims of flying these in support of international law will only up the risk for another serious incident.

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Posted by: james | Jun 17 2022 1:39 utc | 101

It is interesting that few if any Oz or Kiwi commenters remember that back in the 20th century there was indeed a Pacific equivalent to NATO. It was called SEATO (South East Asian Treaty Organisation). Set up in 1954 by the ‘Manila Pact’ (I guess a lot of fat brown envelopes were passed out) Australia & Aotearoa were both members along with United States, France, Pakistan, and the United Kingdom, the only South East Asian members being the at that time & in reality still, the fascist dictatorships of Thailand and the Philippines.
SEATO was dissolved in the late 1970’s although the handful of websites I found which still refer to it don’t spell out why, one hints at it by saying that France resigned from SEATO in 1976, the organisation quietly closed down the following year, although the treaties which bound it remained in place for at least a decade, possibly some are still in place now.
Pakistan which it must be noted is a few thousand kilometers outside ‘south east asia’, withdrew first because Seato did nothing whatsoever to ameliorate the issue which had inspired Pakistan to join in the first place; protection from India’s naked aggression. After India invaded East Pakistan in 1970 following a type of ‘colour revolution’ instigated resourced and directed from India and Seato’s members failed to support Pakistan, leaving the most populous state on the subcontinent in a corrupt plutocracy which continues to this day, currently known as Bangladesh, Pakistan realised that Seato was a waste of time for any nation not dominated by whitefellas & quit it.
France’s reasoning was somewhat different, I imagine it joined Seato as a way to protect it’s assets in Indochina, certainly both UK & France regarded the outfit as a bastion of their failing empires. According to the stalwart of fake news Wikipedia: “The states newly formed from French Indochina (North Vietnam, South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos) were prevented from taking part in any international military alliance as a result of the Geneva Agreements signed 20 July of the same year concluding the end of the First Indochina War. However, with the lingering threat coming from communist North Vietnam and the possibility of the domino theory with Indochina turning into a communist frontier, SEATO got these countries under its protection – an act that would be considered to be one of the main justifications for the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Cambodia, however rejected the protection in 1956.”
I certainly remember the at that time, conservative government of Aotearoa always dragged out SEATO as their reason for sending an artillery regiment to South Vietnam as if kiwi’s hands were tied, we had no choice. I do not remember anyone, politician or media telling us that Vietnam was not a member of SEATO (that could have saved me from the first of many scars I acquired from resistance – copper’s baton across the forehead – opened up an eyebrow, during a protest against a real low life, Spiro T Agnew’s, amerikan VP at the time stay in Auckland. I had not seen real police violence b4 – I was 14, that was an important part of my education).
So Seato was a glue which held together parts of the coalition behind the Vietnam war, although it’s name continued to be dragged out during the 1970’s in this part of the world, it had lost credibility because of its role in the Vietnam war & may have continued on to this day if it had done what Nato did during times of public outrage at the aggression of an organisation forever described by pols as ‘defensive’ – that is stay quiet for a while until relentless media whitewashing covered the stains, but it could not.
The reason it could not was that France, a Seato member from 1954 to 1976 had selected the South Pacific as an ideal, allegedly uninhabited spot for ‘testing’ nuclear weapons, something France undertook with gay abandon nearly every ‘testing season’.
The South Pacific has not been ‘uninhabited’ for at least a couple thousand years & kiwis in particular enjoyed sailing around the islands of the South Pacific where they met the victims of this testing.
From the late 1960’s onwards NZ governments & institutions were under pressure to resist the so-called ‘French Testing’, the issue surfaced at Seato meetings where France pressured both NZ & Oz to restrain their citizens from making an issue of French Imperial rights to do whatever the fuck they wanted in the South Pacific. Unsurprisingly both govts initially acquiesced, instigating major backlashes in both joints. By the early ’70s both joints had elected leftist governments which took a different attitude so France quit Seato & kept ‘testing’.
Furthermore since no amerikan pol wanted to be sprung anywhere near anything deemed ‘South East Asian’ following the vietnam debacle, amerika (who had been picking up the tab) backed off, so all exited stage left in 1977.
There is now a new initiative to kick off a similar organisation, Nato chief puppet Stoltenberg wants it to be under the auspices of Nato, but hopefully that won’t be a starter, I mean ideally the whole thing won’t be a go, however as part of that struggle humans do need reminding that A) this is not a good idea, B)It has been tried before, C) that attempt ended in tears for the same reason any future attempt will. The nations of the South Pacific – oops ‘indo pacific’ and Asia are diverse and frequently do not share the same aspirations. D) is the real kicker. There is no good reason for including any northern hemisphere entity in a southern hemisphere regional agreement.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 17 2022 1:56 utc | 102

To bruised northerner as to why Canada has good reason to endanger their obsolete plane against Russia? The answer to make a complete ass of puppet Canada.
The Chinese already told our boss to one of the never ending threats: “meet us in the sky”. Every f..king week, your boss wants to talk to China. The Russians stopped picking up the phone until very recently. They always come out of these meetings talking be like they have won.
Right now the United Nations is controlled by USA and sponsors. The Russians and Chinese see that one day soon, they will change it back to what it used to be, as the west is humiliated.
North Korea is completely protected and helped by China, despite past sanctions agreement okayed by Russia and China. Trump BS was just that in regards to north Korea. It is China that keep them on a leash.
Canada was a fence sitter, but Harper started the true colours and this self serving clown Trudeau has made us look like complete fools.
But if you think Trudeau is the only Zionist, the conservatives used to lambast him for being too soft on China. Thomas mulcair, the ex-ndp leader is a bell Media talk show host and is a rabid hater of china.
The sensible diplomats have all been kicked out and make sure you keep your mouths shut or lose your pension and benefits.
Racism is what has been shown to the rest of the world and soon we will be on the outside looking in.

Posted by: Karl luck | Jun 17 2022 3:02 utc | 103

Not quite. As far as I know DJT is the only elected President who
a) wasn’t ‘career’ as you said and more importantly
b) convincingly revealed to the citizenry just how phony and endemically corrupt the nation is and has been for quite a while.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 1:23 utc | 98
Splitting hairs .
The entire business career of Donald Trump from college days to first erection 2016 . Was effectively full of daily lies to all. He lied about the ‘Central Park 5″. He operated fake realty company in Canada(Toronto Tower Farce). He lied and opened a fictitious University. He lied about USSA Presidential erection 2020. Offered up zero proof of same.
One could write a ten thousand word essay on his extensive serial lying history. From 2015 until now. Yet still not document all 40,000 plus big and little lies. Essentially what a career politician does every day they open their mouths in public.
Yet the fooled fools suffering from significant mental illness dementia. Still one hundred million dementia victims(voters USSA) blindly follow a serial liar. To leap straight into nuclear hell. MAGA , is and will always remain a complete ‘FARCE’……
On a final note. He was the vain fool who ripped up the open skies agreement. A treaty the USSAF would strongly prefer to remain in existence even now. For obvious reasons………… Think about why it is so………….

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 17 2022 3:37 utc | 104

“One good way to reduce these problems is for the intercept plane to have a tank so that a sticky fluid can be sprayed in front of the other plane thus blinding it and forcing it to fly home on instruments and land
I might also put some colour in the fluid just for effect”
Posted by: Brian Eggar | Jun 17 2022 0:24 utc | 91
Nah, the Chinese screwed with the Aussies not long ago by releasing chaff in front of their spy plane, which is a far more effective way to make the point without having to develop new equipment.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Jun 17 2022 4:31 utc | 105

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2022 0:07 utc | 87
“…When Downer makes a cameo appearance now, I always take note…
He plays the buffoon so well… but he’s as big an intel asset as they come”.
Thanks Melaleuca for reminding me about the initial intel role of Downer in concocting the Trump/Russia narrative with the help of Papadopoulos. I took note at the time.
That’s the utility of the 5 eyes. They can use each other’s nationals to spy on their own citizens with plausible deniability, in either parliament or congress. Then in the next breath say, we do not comment about OUR intel activities.
Downer can stick to the script. Look at his indignant, over the top and florid performance about Iraq’s alleged WMD’s.
Playing the buffoon comes easy for the boy from Adelaide raised as an upper class English twat.

Posted by: Paul | Jun 17 2022 6:01 utc | 106

If it is not yet crystal clear to all regular readers here already I will state it.
‘BRING OUT YOUR DEAD! YOUR BABIES GONNA DIE FOR US AGAIN BUT IT IS OK – SO WILL YOU.’
We are being prepped for a full out HOT war where the Collective Waste will use its super doooper secret weapons from SPACE to rain down death and destruction upon the ex USSR and China.
This has not just started it has been very very long planned. Everything over the last few decades has been aimed at that end.
From the secret rocket flights to space force and Elon’s Skynet.
There are lasers and nukes up there.
From biolabs to rna vaccines to economic meltdown to CANCELLING of ALL things Russian regardless of how old, cultural or not at all Russian but supposed Russian – such as the Canadian owned vodka brand Smirnoff and the comparison site advertising puppet meerkats on U.K. tv.
The activities of MOD colonels and admirals touring Indy/technical publishers from several years ago, to stop any reports of Russia without stating the overt propaganda against ‘Putin the Hitler’!
China is getting the same treatment and poking as this piece by b clearly states.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 17 2022 11:32 utc | 107

I am looking forward to the fall of the Anglo-Saxon dominated West. I am tired of the lies, woketardedness, and corruption. Maybe one day the West can experience constant encroachments by a superior foreign power near their territories and cry about it as they always do.
Posted by: Prometheus | Jun 16 2022 18:54 utc | 63
The Russians have started this Anglo Saxon thing. It’s politically correct version of the Saker’s Anglo Zionist. Zionist is a politically correct version of Jewish so call it like it is: Judeo-Christian.
And then tell the truth: the wokeism crap is just the latest fifth column stuff designed to destroy the country from within, which it has effected, and that sort of thing ain’t done by the Anglos or Christians.
But it IS the Anglos and Christians fault for passively letting their culture get sodomized for decades and being cowed by atrocity guilt into first enabling and now even promoting such dusingenuous garbage.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 11:49 utc | 108

Yet the fooled fools suffering from significant mental illness dementia. Still one hundred million dementia victims(voters USSA) blindly follow a serial liar. To leap straight into nuclear hell. MAGA , is and will always remain a complete ‘FARCE’……
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 17 2022 3:37 utc | 103
You missed my point: serial liar or not, his Presidency revealed how deeply corrupt and phony his Presidency was. Focusing only on his character is buying into all the BS which enables that. You have been played.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 12:02 utc | 109

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 12:07 utc | 110

Canada and Australia also had some of the hardest lockdowns. Now as some of the restrictions are being lifted,both countries are being fed to China by the US.In the near future in Canada ypu may even board a plane and take a train without being vaccinated! As they say there are no conspiracies but there are no coincidences.

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jun 17 2022 12:08 utc | 111

Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 12:07 utc | 109
You missed my point: serial liar or not, his Presidency revealed how deeply corrupt and phony the Republic has become.
I think you both are right, it is true that Trump pulled back the curtain and put in plain sight the corruption and pettiness of the political class. Bad Deal’s point about 100 million doofuses is undeniable. We can see but don’t believe our lying eyes.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 17 2022 13:24 utc | 112

“The Russians have started this Anglo Saxon thing. It’s politically correct version of the Saker’s Anglo Zionist. Zionist is a politically correct version of Jewish so call it like it is: Judeo-Christian.”
@Scorpion #109:
Come on! Anglo Saxon, Anglo Zionist, Judeo-Christian, Zionist, etc., etc., etc. – they are all euphemism for the word JEW!
Come on, you can say the J word!

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 17 2022 13:48 utc | 113

Debsisdead@101
..and then there was CENTO and the Baghdad Pact. It also featured Pakistan among its members. And it didn’t last long either.
Both were creatures of Dulles’ fevered imagination. As are Blinken and his mates.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 17 2022 14:15 utc | 114

Bad Deal’s point about 100 million doofuses is undeniable. We can see but don’t believe our lying eyes.
Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 17 2022 13:24 utc | 111
Which 100 million do you mean? The ones trying to get their country back or the ones badmouthing them and supporting the robber barons so self-righteously whilst urging their young sons to be castrated and proudly demanding that regular drag queen performances are just what is needed for their children in school?
Far worse than Trump supporters are their detractors!
And so it goes…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 14:20 utc | 115

Claiming that you were just following the orders of the United Nazis will not be a viable defense when we get to the Tribunal stage of the proceedings.

Posted by: Judge Jackson | Jun 17 2022 14:24 utc | 116

Funny thing about this that doesn’t seem to get mentioned ANYWHERE… this incident took place far far closer to China than Canada… this means that the aggressor is Canada… China was merely defending it’s area of concern.
But that’s always the way it is with the western bloc… they think that they can move weapons of war anywhere in the world without consequence… it is imperialism.

Posted by: oldcutlas | Jun 17 2022 14:41 utc | 117

Its funny …. I was marching against Globalization, and being attacked by the police for it, back when today’s “Trump Supporters” were waving American Flags and yelling “Get A Job, Hippies!” at us …. when they weren’t throwing beer bottles out of cars at us for opposing both Globalization and the growing wars of the American Empire.
Hmmm, maybe if the Trump supporters had not been violently and abusively attacking everyone to their left for decades, maybe they might find some support? Or, even better, maybe if they had joined the movement against Globalization back when it might have made a real difference? Ah, but we can only dream, Donald Trump and the Republicans were all very pro-Globalization back then. Its amazing how their ‘hate Globalists’ doesn’t include the guy with the world-wide hotel chain. Donald Trump wasn’t building roadside hotels for weary American travelers and truckers.
Then again, there is the track record that says that Trump is a lying, billionaire oligarch, and if put back in charge he’ll renew his Cabinet of Billionaires and his track record of making billionaires even richer and not giving a damn about working people nor Peace once he’s back in power.
Biden and the Democrats are not the answer. But, making Trump the President for Life and getting ready for the succession of Don Junior and his coke habit to being Emperor Don II is definitely not the answer. Or maybe it will be Empress Ivanka?
It is fascinating that none of the Democrat supporters, nor none of the Republican supporters, can see that they are getting dorked up the hiney by both sides, and that both sides are only making the rich very much richer and starving and killing the rest of us whenever it makes a Billionaire yet another dime. Our lives mean nothing to either gang.

Posted by: Lonely Dove | Jun 17 2022 14:42 utc | 118

The Russians have started this Anglo Saxon thing. It’s politically correct version of the Saker’s Anglo Zionist. Zionist is a politically correct version of Jewish so call it like it is: Judeo-Christian.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 11:49 utc | 107

Ahhh no. There are almost as many factions or schisms within Judaism as there are within Christianity or Islam. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. Just ask “I’m a proud Christian Zionist”, Steve Bannon.
The term Anglo-Zionist is more 1,000,000 more imperial than religious and accurately refers to the true Axis-of-Evil coined by David Frum, London-Washington-Tel Aviv.
As for Christians, I know many who have abandoned the major centralized groups for more local faith based congregations that focus on doing good in their communities. Again, the opposite of Imperial Christianity of the past.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 17 2022 16:01 utc | 119

You missed my point: serial liar or not, his Presidency revealed how deeply corrupt and phony his Presidency was. Focusing only on his character is buying into all the BS which enables that. You have been played.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 12:02 utc | 108
HA ha! Buggered my own post…
Should read:
You missed my point: serial liar or not, his Presidency revealed how deeply corrupt and phony the Republic has become.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 12:07 utc | 109
I like 108 version better. I am thinking about printing and framing it.
BTW, it is hard to establish who is the greatest Turd in Turdistan.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 17 2022 16:15 utc | 120

The term Anglo-Zionist is more 1,000,000 more imperial than religious and accurately refers to the true Axis-of-Evil coined by David Frum, London-Washington-Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 17 2022 16:01 utc | 118
Good point. Problem with Zionist is that not all organized Jewish fifth column stuff in the West is about the Zionist project so it too is a misleading term. And if course not only Jews are involved though they tend to predominate in such subversions.
Personally, I prefer the more precise terms ‘them’ or ‘they.’

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 16:42 utc | 121

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 1:23 utc | 99
Good comment Scorpion (my Zodiac sign). I fully agree.
I’m of the same opinion with respect to Trump. Not perfect but a lot of people WANTED HIM and FROM THE WORD GO he was cock blocked all 4 years, using lies. I can’t imagine what would have been going on if that psycho Hitlery Clinton got into the White House with her Booba I Had No Sexual Relations With That Woman.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 17 2022 16:58 utc | 122

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 14:20 utc | 114
Sadly the USSA . Is on the precipice of self total extinction through institutionalized corruption and racism at every level. A corrupt police force. Broken Health care system. A near zero functional education system. A free speech system that sells denial. A media corporate and private for profit system that sells propaganda. A fake democracy. A kill crazed demented military responsible for 36 million war crimes. Going postal events trend is for ten ore more mass shootings done daily. A military doctrine that uses WMD’s for first choice.. A broken prison system that makes Stalin’s Gulags look like holiday camps. A country that runs off the back of seventeen million plus slaves…….
A vote for an elderly insane non patriotic draft dodger serial liar racist bigot “DJT” as the next President in 2024. A member of a family with known aged onset dementia illness on the male side. Is basically a vote for the “CIVIL WAR 2.0”.
As ‘Joeyess’ stated in his 2009 song “The Dirty F…. Hippies Were Right”…………..
Looks like the 300 million residents of the USSA. Are being hustled by “DJT” to leap off into the precipice of ‘Civil War 2.0’…..
As for the wiser Russians, they just filed for divorce.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 17 2022 17:09 utc | 123

Come on! Anglo Saxon, Anglo Zionist, Judeo-Christian, Zionist, etc., etc., etc. – they are all euphemism for the word JEW!
Come on, you can say the J word!
Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 17 2022 13:48 utc | 113
I could and sometimes do; problem is it usually isn’t really what I want to say. That many Jews are part of organizations that work – wittingly and unwittingly – to weaken their host cultures is definitely true. Is this the result of a deliberate plot or just the natural expression of various tendencies, many of which are shared by non-Jews who also participate in such stuff is harder to say. Probably a little of both.
I believe that Jewish networks work deliberately to undermine both Western and Western Christian culture and impose their own far more materialist values instead moreover in ways that benefit their own networks. But I doubt most Jews in most countries are directly involved and probably a majority of them are not even aware just like the vast majority of Americans haven’t a clue about how corrupt their political systems and politicians are. They may realize that it’s all f**ked, they are all crooks, but they still believe the country they believe in is still there underneath it all and with a little bit of a wash and polish can all come up bright as a new penny again. They also have no idea that people work 24/7 to undermine their nation, to profit from gaming it, that most of the Intelligence and Military is a huge racket and so forth.
Most of us are the normal people who are not able to penetrate the veil and see the Big Lie that all our countries have become, like the Big Lie right now that Putin initiated a war in Ukraine that is causing our economies to tank, like that Saddam Hussein brought down the twin towers, like that Biden got far and away more votes than anyone in the history of his country by not campaigning, like that Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election or that his supporters wandering through a public building whose doors were opened to them by the police are insurrectionists who deserve to rot in solitary for a year and counting without trial or bail, like that Democrats care for the working class and minorities and their border policies are about making the world a better, fairer place for all, and so on. No end of Big Lies accepted at face value day after day.
No wonder the population is hundreds of millions of dufusses. And it has gotten that way thanks to the machinations of fifth columnists taking advantage of the majority’s naivete in not understanding that there are people out there who want to them to be stupid, to be poor, to suffer, to lose.
And yes, many of the people who are working to make this happen are Jews. Many.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 17:13 utc | 124

Looks like the 300 million residents of the USSA. Are being hustled by “DJT” to leap off into the precipice of ‘Civil War 2.0’…..
As for the wiser Russians, they just filed for divorce.
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 17 2022 17:09 utc | 123
Like I said before, the people piling on him so much are just as bad as he may be.
I’m on the side of people who want to take their country back whether or not Trump is a valid ticket to get there. Personally I think he’s controlled opposition but it doesn’t matter what I think but what the voting citizenry think. The ones who vote simply to block Trump are far more dangerous and deluded IMO because they are 100% invested in destroying the country and are buying into extremely negative persuasion techniques which in turn make them extremely negative.
Everyone talks about Trump’s racism, bigotry and hatred but all I see is racist, bigoted haters piling on deplorables. Very sad. But I guess that’s what happens when countries start to fall to pieces.
Trump isn’t the story. The death of the Republic is the story but people are too busy with the soap opera drama to pay any attention.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 17:24 utc | 125

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 17:24 utc | 125
I had a very small sample size to gauge WHY people voted for Trump. The reason was very simple.
THEY HAD ENOUGH OF WHAT FKS LIKE OBAMBOOZER/CLINTONS/BUSHES etc stood for and were doing.
We can say all we want about this Silent Majority, but they finally pickup their butts and tried to make a change at the ballot box. People simply wanted CHANGE. A change in a direction away from the Bullshit that was ever more apparent after Obamboozer was done. The people were fed up with this and the poster child for this was Hitlery Clinton.
Unfortunately this message is NOT and WILL NOT be heard in MSM. I think I don’t need to explain why not.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 17 2022 18:02 utc | 126

Unfortunately this message is NOT and WILL NOT be heard in MSM. I think I don’t need to explain why not.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 17 2022 18:02 utc | 126
I agree. It is very sad. But I think that the Republic has been RINO (Republic in Name Only) for a very long time, at least since JFK got publicly executed. The MSM is just an extension of the Deep State, an imprecise term that roughly means ‘the people and their minions actually running the country.’ I believe, for example, that 90% of the MSM are Intelligence operations masquerading as private corporations and I believe that Intelligence is just the police arm of the internationalist banking cartels who control finances in the West and to a large extent world wide putting most developing countries into debt to the corporations who are also extensions of the banking networks.
However it all actually is, that commedian got it right: ‘It’s a big club and you and me, we ain’t in it!’
At this point I wish more leaders would step forward in America willing and able to explain how the Republic is already lost and what is needed is not restoration but destruction so that the current robber barons running the sh*t show America has become (and as some have pointed out it’s basically the same in Europe) get turfed out and either restoration or more likely a new and better republic can be put together. Chances are, though, that no such leaders or movement from the ground up will develop and we are going to have to go through Great Reset-induced Hard Times at which point there might be a chance to reject their offered solutions and kick them out instead. Frankly, it’s all looking rather bleak. I admire Bannon’s optimism (though stopped watching him off and on a year or go) but am not sure he isn’t way too late. Still, if the 2022 mid-terms can be honestly conducted (which I doubt) and do significantly change congress, then maybe, just maybe, there can be an honest election in 2024 which maybe, just maybe, will give the country a chance to Reset in a good way.
One thing for sure, even if the latter happens Trump on his own doesn’t have the necessary skills to effect the sort of reforms necessary. He may be a great project manager type but he’s no political visionary and has a bad track record picking good people (he doesn’t). So no easy answers.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 18:22 utc | 127

One thing for sure, even if the latter happens Trump on his own doesn’t have the necessary skills to effect the sort of reforms necessary. He may be a great project manager type but he’s no political visionary and has a bad track record picking good people (he doesn’t). So no easy answers.
Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 18:22 utc | 127
That’s why I admire Putin. Just One Man. I know, there is more behind him but still. He was the one sitting in the hot seat when Kursk was attacked. He was in the hot seat when Chechen War went full red hot. He was in the hot seat when Nord-Ost siege went down. He was in the hot seat when Beslan went side ways. Dammn, that takes a special guy to come out of that sane and in one piece and steadily guide the Ship of State.
Is there someone like that in the US ? I think there is but Dallas ’63 would await him. Putin was KGB, so would have known better how to figure out who he was dealing with to avert such a situation.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 17 2022 19:00 utc | 128

MeanWhile… (concerning the headline nothing new, really !!) have a walk through that CHINESE PARK OF SOME WONDEROUS ENGINEERINGS:
https://www.seetao.com/m
ALSO Science
https://twitter.censors.us/ChinaScience
And all COSMOS & Co.
https://twitter.censors.us/CNSAWatcher
And some Life & ART:
Tong Bingxue 仝冰雪
https://twitter.censors.us/tongbingxue
Ind. Collector & Historian: Visuals of China, Past & Present. Author: History of Photo Studios in China, A Life in Portraits.
And some real foreign people living there:
https://twitter.censors.us/RnaudBertrand
https://twitter.censors.us/Angelo4justice3
https://twitter.censors.us/AndyBxxx

Posted by: MD | Jun 17 2022 19:02 utc | 129

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM&t=647s Good video I disagree with Mearsheimer belief that Crimea was taken by Russia. Crimea was in fact liberated by a referendum due to an illegally appointed government after the coupe that V. Nuland and G. Pyatt threw on the Maidan in 2014.

Posted by: Craig | Jun 17 2022 20:04 utc | 130

Mearsheimer like chompsky is a Jew first and foremost. The always paid lip service to the Palestinian cause, knowing fully well that it would lead nowhere.
It is just like Musk, Bezos and Gates rowing with each other: Hollywood.
Being more learned than their leaders, they know that they need Russia to help keep down China, but their illiterate leaders are too stupid.
That Jews run all of the West including thoughts is a crime in itself, but a people that never ever had a legitimate claim to any land on earth; to tell others whose land belongs to who is as ridiculous as you can get.
Ukraine was Russian until a Ukrainian USSR president gave them the land. Taiwan, a small island off china’s coast was always part of China.
The Zionists, after completely controlling the west faced a dilemma. They could fu.k up Russia as they did under Yeltsin, being the same race colour, relatively speaking.
In the meantime, China was growing leaps and bounds and the dilemma was, they were not yellow in colour. Oh! Many of them tried to infiltrate: Soros, the CIA, Pentagon and their media comes to mind. They were all kicked out and soon Musk will be too.
As some debated, Jews might not be a race, but they were expelled from Europe centuries before and all through known human history.
Moses parted the red sea but even with their endless lies could never find proof. I want to know where God went.

Posted by: Karl luck | Jun 18 2022 2:18 utc | 131

Scorpion | Jun 17 2022 14:20 utc | 115
Which 100 million do you mean? The ones trying to get their country back or the ones badmouthing them and supporting the robber barons so self-righteously whilst urging their young sons to be castrated and proudly demanding that regular drag queen performances are just what is needed for their children in school?
Far worse than Trump supporters are their detractors!
To be clear, I am referring to the MAGA hat wearing Fox News watching bigoted incurious plastic made in china flag wavers.
That crap you try to lay on the democrats is the result of many years of manufacturing wedge issues to create artificial differences between the two parties. It has changed a bit over the years but in my lifetime it started with hatred of communism and the suggestion that democrats were less patriotic, moved on to who was more pro military and went to church, then gun control, now there is much ado about gender identity. All of these ideas were created by the influencers and policy setters funded by the wealthy and distributed by corporate media.
The examples you provide referring to democrats do indeed exist, the republicans do not have a stranglehold on buffoonery. In their defense, where can you go if you don’t want to support fat cat union busting bankers and sweatshop owners?
The current democratic party is complete shit. that is quite disappointing to me as I could never bring myself to vote republican. I can only “throw away my vote” now on third party candidates.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 18 2022 4:55 utc | 132

Justin just LOVES his power
Why did Canadians vote for this sociopath?
Canada does not have the military resources to act as a FOOL!

Posted by: Kay | Jun 18 2022 6:12 utc | 133

@133:
Canada voted for the Trudeau brand, whatever it represents, not so much the Scion.
The sins of the father are not visited upon the son. Sometimes, neither are the gifts.

Posted by: LittleWhiteCabbage | Jun 18 2022 7:23 utc | 134

. All of these ideas were created by the influencers and policy setters funded by the wealthy and distributed by corporate media.
…
The current democratic party is complete shit. that is quite disappointing to me as I could never bring myself to vote republican. I can only “throw away my vote” now on third party candidates.
Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 18 2022 4:55 utc
Understood. The Deplorables hate the Republican Party Grandee but are still suckers for anything that involves waving the Empire’s flag. But I think their desire to take their country back is quite reasonable and if more people would join them they might even have a chance.
IMO, though he is a natural leader in many respects, Trump is too malleable with the insiders. There is NO excuse for the mainly terrible appointments he made indicating his inner circle was way out of their depth or traitors.
But back to the deplorabkes: generally they are hard working mainstream Americans many if whom are mall town employers paying taxes and playing by the rules and increasingly demonized by the media as part of these fifth column influencing shenanigans. They are a large percentage of the non Big Blue Cities working class which is more like the lower middle class of 50 or more years ago.
Neither the media nor most politicians can empathize with such working class voters. They despise them and fear them. Trump doesn’t. He is a hard hat billionaire who deals with trades people all his life. He gets them. Not perfect, mob contacts and more etc but the MAGA types were not created by him and will still be there if the Republic lasts long enough for another leader to step up like de Santis.
Meanwhile the leadership class is corrupt to the bone so all elections are counter productive.
A pickle, a veritable pickle!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 18 2022 12:54 utc | 135

The countries in the west with the hardest lockdowns are currently the most militant perhaps because they have been told China/Russia are stealthily importing their tyrannical systems to the western “democratic” societies under the guise of healthcare. This has been the dominant alt narrative in particular with regard to China and who is to say it is not largely true?

Posted by: Jonathan W | Jun 18 2022 17:31 utc | 136

Trudeau’s playing to the Canadian public. Canadians like to think they’re doing the ‘Lord’s work’ whoever they’re told to shoot at. The notion of a UN mission is a sure-fire way to shut any Canadians up. He floated through the destruction of Libya by focusing on CNC Lavolin trying to help Ghaddafis escape, when he should have been pasted for blowing-out the aging F18 fleet, bombarding Libyans for 6 month longer than he originally thought.
If he’d ben more like Putin, Canada wouldn’t still be playing bumboy for whatever idiot the Yanks have elected. He could have stopped the stupidity in Ukraine and maintained a great relationship with China and Taiwan. Canada’s lined-up to ‘defend’ two of those, now.

Posted by: Kevin Quinn | Jun 18 2022 22:44 utc | 137

The US is a far bigger and more imminent threat to Canadian sovereignty than China or Russia. And a bigger threat to world peace than all other countries combined.

Posted by: ggatin | Jun 19 2022 22:32 utc | 138

ggatin 138
Bingo!!
Canadians will find themselves watching US troops role across the 49th parallel in due time as the Americans lay claim to our natural resources.
All the stupids cunts who wished/prayed for the break up of the country rather than work towards uniting it will then see the folly of their dream.

Posted by: JDP | Jun 20 2022 4:02 utc | 139

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