Trudeau Is Lying - Canadian Air Patrols Near China Are Not On 'UN Mission'
Canada falsely claims that it is implementing international law when its airplanes are in fact spying on China.
On June 2 the Canadian Globe & Mail reported of a Chinese interdiction of a Canadian reconnaissance aircraft:
Canada’s military has accused Chinese warplanes of harassing its patrol aircraft as they monitor North Korea sanction evasions, sometimes forcing Canadian planes to divert from their flight paths.On several occasions from April 26 to May 26, aircraft of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) approached a Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CP-140 Aurora long-range patrol aircraft, the Canadian Armed Forces said in a statement on Wednesday.
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Such interactions are of concern and of increasing frequency, the Canadian military said, noting that the missions occur during United Nations-approved operations to implement sanctions on North Korea.The Canadian aircraft were part of Ottawa’s “Operation NEON”, which sees military ships, aircraft and personnel deployed to identify suspected sanctions evasions at sea, including ship-to-ship transfers of fuel and other supplies banned by United Nations Security Council resolutions.
Did the United Nations really give Canada a mission or even a right to identify sanction evasions at high sea or near North Korea? I would find that astonishing.
Four days later the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked about the incidents. His answers came after China had explained its position:
China’s foreign ministry is warning Canada that provoking Beijing could bring “grave consequences” after the Canadian military last week accused Chinese warplanes of harassing its aircraft, which are monitoring North Korea’s compliance with United Nations sanctions.Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Zhao Lijian suggested during a media briefing in Beijing on Monday that these patrols by Canadian and allied aircraft are illegal. “The UN Security Council has never authorized any country to carry out military surveillance in the seas and airspace of other countries in the name of enforcing sanctions,” he told reporters.
Trudeau's response to that is somewhat muddled:
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in response, defended the patrols, which he said are part of a multinational effort to enforce UN sanctions. He warned Beijing that pilots on both sides are in danger of behind hurt or killed by China’s behaviour.“China’s actions are irresponsible and provocative in this case, and we will continue to register strongly that they are putting people at risk while at the same time not respecting decisions by the UN to enforce UN sanctions on North Korea,” he told reporters during a press conference in Ottawa with Chile’s President on Monday.
Chinese fighter pilots have recently stepped up aggressive behaviour against Canadian military aircraft flying in international airspace near North Korea.
A "a multinational effort to enforce UN sanctions" is something different than a "United Nations-approved operations to implement sanctions on North Korea" which the Canadian military claimed.
Since 2019, Canada has from time to time dispatched a naval frigate or long-range patrol aircraft to help monitor ocean approaches to North Korea as part of a multinational approach, with the United States and other allies, to enforce sanctions against Pyongyang over its nuclear weapons program. The area under patrol includes the contested East China Sea, above which China established an aircraft defence identification zone in 2013.
The 'multinational' behind the effort are the U.S. and its usual proxies. But if that were a UN or UN approved mission China and Russia must have agreed to it at the UN Security Council. They never did.
Still Trudeau insists on the UN smoke screen:
“Canada is participating in a UN mission designed to interdict and intercept and ensure the respect of sanctions on North Korea’s murderous regime,” the Prime Minister said. “Canada continues to stand up for the rule of law. We continue to stand up for multilateralism. We continue to stand up for the principles of the UN Charter.”
I find no news of formal paper that says the UN has ever designed or asked for any such mission.
There are a total of nine UN Security Council resolutions against North Korea. The relevant here is UNSCR 1718 from 2006. In paragraph 8 it asks member countries to implement certain sanctions:
Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations, and taking measures under its Article 41 ...
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8. Decides that:(a) All Member States shall prevent the direct or indirect supply, sale or transfer to the DPRK, through their territories or by their nationals, or using their flag vessels or aircraft, and whether or not originating in their territories, of:
[... a list of certain weapon systems and materials.]
That paragraph restricts any measure countries can take with UNSC agreement to territory, nationals or vessels under their control. It does not authorize to do anything to other territories, nationals or to foreign flagged vessels or to act against such vessels at high sea.
Paragraph 8d, which is about financial sanctions, has similar restrictions:
d) All Member States shall, in accordance with their respective legal processes, freeze immediately the funds, other financial assets and economic resources which are on their territories at the date of the adoption of this resolution or at any time thereafter, ...
UNSC resolution 2094 from 2013 added additional sanctions but included the same territorial restrictions:
11. Decides that Member States shall, in addition to implementing their obligations pursuant to paragraphs 8 (d) and (e) of resolution 1718 (2006), prevent the provision of financial services or the transfer to, through, or from their territory, or to or by their nationals or entities organized under their laws (including branches abroad), or persons or financial institutions in their territory, ...
In fact all UNSC resolutions I am aware of, except those few which directly allow for a war, have similar restrictions. Orders or request to UN member countries for implementing sanctions or to take other measure are always restricted to those things or persons the country legally controls. The reasons for that are obvious. It would breach the rights of other countries if the UN would allow Canada or anyone else to interfere outside of their own legal realm.
The Canadian military's claim that its planes are on a "United Nations-approved operations" is false. There is no UN approval for such operations.
The Canadian Prime Minister's claim of participating in a "UN mission" is false. There is no such mission with regard to the DPRK.
The Canadian spy planes flying near the Chinese border are not implementing international law. That is simply a subterfuge of their real mission which is in fact spying on China.
Trudeau should be reminded of the 2001 incident near Hainan Island where a Chinese jet collided with a U.S. spy plane which then had to make an emergency landing in China:
The 24 crew members (21 men and 3 women) were detained for 10 days in total, and were released shortly after the U.S. issued the "letter of the two sorries" to the Chinese. The crew was only partially successful in their destruction of classified material, and some of the material they failed to destroy included cryptographic keys, signals intelligence manuals, and the names of National Security Agency employees. Some of the captured computers contained detailed information for processing PROFORMA communications from North Korea, Russia, Vietnam, China and other countries. The plane also carried information on the emitter parameters for U.S.-allied radar systems worldwide. The fact that the United States could track PLAN submarines via signal transmission was also revealed to China.
The U.S. now largely avoids such missions. It instead ordered Canada (and Australia) to do these, passing the risk to them. Pissing off China by making false claims of flying these in support of international law will only up the risk for another serious incident.
Posted by b on June 16, 2022 at 12:28 UTC | Permalink
next page »This is like going to the grocery store and deliberately acting suspicious and when security inevitably arrive you roll around on the floor accusing them of harassing you.
Posted by: Joe | Jun 16 2022 12:42 utc | 2
Posted by: Joe | Jun 16 2022 12:42 utc | 2
In other words, There is a Chinese proverb, “A thief crying ‘stop the thief’.”
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 12:53 utc | 3
Trudeau is a pipsqueak who aspires to run with the big dogs
Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 16 2022 12:54 utc | 4
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin’s Regular Press Conference on June 13, 2022
Bloomberg: We reported that Chinese military officials have repeatedly asserted that the Taiwan Strait is not international waters in recent months during meetings with US counterparts. Does the foreign ministry have any comment on this?Wang Wenbin: Taiwan is an inalienable part of China’s territory. The Taiwan Strait ranges in width from about 70 nautical miles at its narrowest and 220 nautical miles at its widest. According to UNCLOS and Chinese laws, the waters of the Taiwan Strait, extending from both shores toward the middle of the Strait, are divided into several zones including internal waters, territorial sea, contiguous zone, and the Exclusive Economic Zone. China has sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction over the Taiwan Strait. At the same time, it respects the lawful rights of other countries in relevant waters.
There is no legal basis of “international waters” in the international law of the sea. It is a false claim when certain countries call the Taiwan Strait “international waters” in order to find a pretext for manipulating issues related to Taiwan and threatening China’s sovereignty and security. China is firmly against this.
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 13:00 utc | 5
One comment and that’s all from me on this one: with the port in Prince Rupert and the port in Vancouver being the two closest ones in North America to China, Canada has legitimate security interests. Sorry if that causes offence (genuine Canadian security interests tend to). Or is that only for major powers?
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:08 utc | 6
I didn't see this in any western media, especially in anglo sphere.
Posted by: LuRenJia | Jun 15 2022 14:10 utc | 6
And you won't, because no matter how many times one links to CN state "readouts", data, or speeches translated into ENGLISH...
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 15 2022 15:33 utc | 14
Hear me, now, LuRenJia? Watch this thread unfold.
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 13:09 utc | 7
Funny clip of Trudeau sitting down as some UN (or something) meeting and being ignored. He glances about furtively, but is serially ignored. Richly deserved.
China seems not to be mincing words as of late, calling out US dastardly deeds as they see them. I suspect that when the bluffs begin getting called in the Pacific theater, Uncle Sam & Friends are going to take beating. It comes back to the notion that the bully manipulator sociopath will never listen to reason or be "agreement capable". They will back away only when hurt. Mother Nature has seen to this for millions of years and domesticated primates merely amplify this princible with their technological toys. Much like the Russian resolve in Ukraine, I'll bet China will clearly state their aims, warn a few times and when the US stumbles over the red line, simply sink a carrier or vaporize Diego Garcia.
Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 16 2022 13:13 utc | 8
Trudeau learned this from the Saudis who are blockading Yemen. It is not U.N. approved but it is all in the marketing.
BTW I hope that Russia and China have learned never to approve of open ended sanctions.
All U.N. approved sanctions should have a time limit that force members to vote on renewing them on a regular schedule. This has not stopped the ruthless Saudi blockade against Yemen but I still think that it is good to force member states to go on the record.
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 16 2022 13:21 utc | 9
It is well known that Trudeau is a pathological liar.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jun 16 2022 13:27 utc | 10
The US and its puppets, lacking any diplomacy capacity, usually tend to go military on the slightest impulse. That's not in accordance with the UN Charter: "All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered."
In fact the US ought to end the Korean war and its war policy toward DPRK. Trump agreed to it but he was stopped, unfortunately. Perhaps someone brought up Dealey Plaza?
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 13:28 utc | 11
Further to my @ 6 - ok 2 comments
What will really be critical in this part of the globe is how Russia would react. Reminder that a Canadian helicopter ended up at the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea a year or two back, and that was considered an unfortunate cost of defending Canada’s legitimate interests. That’s why a country has a military.
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:31 utc | 12
I don't know if you are aware, that's what an Australian Surveillance plane did in the South China Sea and the Chinese did a flight interdiction and Australia went mental about it here in Australia. For all concerned not in Australia the "New" Labor Government is no different from the former Conservative ratbags because the US has them by the short and curly's! The difference is the Australian Labor Government portrays themselves as "More Caring"?
Posted by: William Edward Kiera | Jun 16 2022 13:39 utc | 13
The Canadians are the American's bitch. During the destruction of Yugoslavia, it was mostly Canadian air force pilots that bombed Serbia. That remark above by "Bruised Northerner" demonstrates the idiotic and geographically challenged nature of Canucks.
Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 16 2022 13:44 utc | 14
@ sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 13:00 utc | 5
Wang: There is no legal basis of “international waters” in the international law of the sea. . .China has . . sovereign rights and jurisdiction over the Taiwan Strait.
The China FM is wrong. UNCLOS specifies a 12 nautical mile territorial sea beyond a country's shores, beyond that there may be a contiguous zone of 24 nautical miles for certain specified controls (immigration, sanitary etc), and an economic zone (EEZ) may extend out to 200 miles. Warships are free to sail in the EEZ.
Wang is technically correct in saying "There is no legal basis of “international waters” in the international law of the sea" but that doesn't matter, given the other descriptions. . .here.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 13:47 utc | 15
There is no legal basis of “international waters” in the international law of the sea" but that doesn't matter ...
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 13:47 utc | 15
What part of "no" are you willing to entertain in order to rationalize date rape?
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 13:59 utc | 16
Trudeau just tested positive for covid, a second time (First time was in January). This despite being vaccinated multiple times.
Posted by: Lysias | Jun 16 2022 13:59 utc | 17
@ sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 13:59 utc | 16
Change the subject much?
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 14:02 utc | 18
Once again the media just regurgitates what they are told rather than doing the most basic of journalistic work to verify a story. The article above, with all due respect to MoA, shows how easy it would have been in this case.
Posted by: Donal | Jun 16 2022 14:10 utc | 19
I want to personally thank Moon of Alabama for this incisive expose. Even on RT, they just report the same shit passed around in the western presstitude media.
Canada was spying on China and they risk being shot down the next time, not "bumped" like last time.
Trudeau Jr. is a Yankee bitch. Hope he dies from COVID.
Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 16 2022 14:13 utc | 20
Duh......the boy-emperor, justinian lying is hardly news?
Your observation of the fact, is really about the MSM giving him free rein to spread his lies.
They are still operating on the principle that those who make the "laws" CAN break and/or change them at their will!
They are desperately trying to convince China and Russia they "they" are still in control!!!!!
Posted by: James Cook | Jun 16 2022 14:23 utc | 21
In a few Decades, CHN may be outbuilding the USA on Nuclear Carriers (CVNs). Once the Prototype Construction are replaced by Multi-Unit Construction Runs, it'll be a Matter of Time until CHN Hosts the Largest Navy.
The USA build their Ships by Funding+Building them via Singular Projects, making them more expensive.
I'm presuming that TWN will be reabsorbed to the Mainland by then. There are good chances AUKUS/CAUKUS "Murica+GBR-Commonwealth" will engage in a Hot War over WESTPAC/Oceania/IndianOcean due to previous+ongoing Occupation/OpiumWar/Sanctions/Provocations.
Posted by: IronForge | Jun 16 2022 14:25 utc | 22
@ Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 13:47 utc | 15
The point is that China's interception and monitoring of military air traffic in the strait is legitimate because it's in their EEZ. Trudeau has no basis to complain when they do so.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jun 16 2022 14:40 utc | 23
@ Jun 16 2022 14:25 utc | 22
China now possesses the biggest navy in the world by number of hulls, the U.S. Defense Department confirmed in its recent report on Beijing's armed forces.
Aircraft carriers are good for showing the flag and bragging rights, but they have been obsoleted by guided missiles.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 14:42 utc | 24
@ Figleaf23 | Jun 16 2022 14:40 utc | 23
Monitoring military air traffic is done in an ADIZ, air defense identification zone, a US invention with no international standing. It is US military policy not to identify in a foreign ADIZ, including in China's.
Your point is well taken. There's been no report that the Canadian planes entered China's territorial airspace, it's Trudeau's antics that matter.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 14:55 utc | 25
Ah prince Rupert is scared that the Chinese and NK are coming to the village in the middle of NoWhere. It is ground zero for China lol. Be afraid very afraid, the Chinese will not let deer walk into your home anymore! Maybe you can send your Navy out to the Queen Charlottes to intercept the Chinese before they come and get you. Just be sure they don’t get lost in all those Islands and taken out by the old Vietnam Vets!
Posted by: Susan | Jun 16 2022 15:08 utc | 27
Canada's Golden Leader
the Liberals are sharpening the knives for Justin Trudeau sooner rather than later. CTV’s Don Martin conducted a not-at-all scientific survey of the Liberals in his life and found that almost all of them are done with Trudeau. “He’s too woke, too precious, preachy in tone, exceedingly smug, lacking in leadership, fading in celebrity, slow to act, short-sighted in vision and generally getting more irritating with every breathlessly whispered public pronouncement,” wrote Martin. The National Post’s Chris Selley noted that we’re now starting to see something that hasn’t happened before in the Trudeau government: Open Liberal dissent. Selley sees it as a clear sign of pending “defenestration.”
SOURCE
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-the-liberal-plan-to-curb-inflation-with-more-inflation
The Liberals omitted b's allegation of Trudeau's lying but they are Liberals after all and lying is to them as basic as breathing.
Trudeau is an alleged criminal. He fired his Justice minister because she refused to interfere in a criminal prosecution in favour of SNC Lavalin, a Québec firm (Trudeau represents a Québec riding and his family is detested in Québec) which paid for hookers and blow for the son of Libya's Gaddafi in hopes of landing Libyan engineering contracts. Trudeau's conduct constituted an obstruction of justice but the Liberals did not concern themselves with such conduct as long as Trudeau had electoral benefits.
Other than Trudeau accepting benefits to which he was not entitled, and his repeated wearing of blackface, there is also the question of why Trudeau was suddenly terminated from his employment as a drama teacher with a very tony and posh Vancouver private school.
Immediately after this termination Trudeau issued a statement through his lawyer stating nothing untoward had occurred. Later investigations found evidence to support the allegation of Turdeau having engaged in sexual improprieties with an underage student. This was all swept under the rug despite one intrepid reporter having tracked down the woman in question who refused to make any kind of statement at all, coupled with the allegation she had been the beneficiary of a multi-million dollar gag contract.
What also came out at the same time was that Turdeau, and his buddy of the time, had spent their days at McGill university urinating on classroom blackboards and challenging each other on who could spray the highest.
Anyone who claims on MoA that "democracy is broken" clearly looks any perspective or insight into western democratic practices.
Posted by: Sushi | Jun 16 2022 15:10 utc | 28
Bruised Northener in #6 says "Canada has legitimate security interests". Quite right. Sending a CP-140 over Chinese waters on a patently provocative reccy can't be considered terribly serious - it's a 50-year old turboprop with a modernization programme intended to keep it "safe and operationally viable until 2020". (Is RCAF trying to find a cunning new way to scrap them?) Logically that means Canada would be happy for China to start patrolling in the Gulf of St. Lawrence or around Vancouver island with KJ-500s, to ensure US compliance with nuclear non-proliferation treaties (if there are any left). A security interest for the goose is a security interest for the gander.
Posted by: TPaine | Jun 16 2022 15:15 utc | 29
Meh, Canadian pilots need something to do with their 50 year old planes and poking the dragon is less risky than poking the bear at this point.
The bigger lie is that the Trudeau government told the public that law enforcement agencies requested the additional Emergency Act powers to deal with the February Trucker protests.
RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki and interim Ottawa police chief Steve Bell later denied asking for the act to be used.Appearing before the committee in April, Mendicino repeatedly said government was acting on the advice of law enforcement and that police advised using the Emergencies Act.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:24 utc | 30
Misdirection and Garbage Comment
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:08 utc | 6
Canada has no jurisdiction to claim "security interests" a distance half a globe away. This commenter is simply mindlessly mouthing the US "rules based order" BS.
The actions being taken by Canada constitute instituting a Blockade.
A Blockade is an act of war.
The target of the Blockade is legally entitled to defend its national security interests against the unlawful conduct of other states.
Under the UN Charter right of a state to self defence, the DPRK has every right to demand Canada vacate the area, cease its violation of International law. Should Canada refuse to so act then the DPRK has every right to level the base from which these sorties emanate. Goodbye Victoria. Goodbye Comox. Goodbye James.
Posted by: Sushi | Jun 16 2022 15:25 utc | 31
thanks b.... i appreciate you posting this....
as others have noted, canada is doing the usa's business - spying... offering a lame and bullshit excuse for doing it, doesn't cut it with this canuck...
@ Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:08 utc | 6
while it is true canada has security concerns, what the fuck has that got to do with flying over north korea and claiming you are on a un mission? granted the bozos in the other major canuck political parties will likely do a similar stunt here if usa asks ) but you have got to be kidding yourself thinking this has anything to do with canadas security concerns.... wasn't the whole huawai episode enough for you to wake up? there are more ignorant canucks then i realize.. china, russia, iran and venezuala are all on the same usa list and canada is a happy little servant to the usa's agenda.... canada is basically screwed here and it doesn't help if the country has individuals within it that are so easily hoodwinked either..
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2022 15:26 utc | 32
@ Posted by: Sushi | Jun 16 2022 15:10 utc | 28
The problem with the universal "dump Trudeau" movement inside and outside the Liberal Party is that Fascist Freeland is the obvious successor.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:34 utc | 33
One comment and that’s all from me on this one
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:31 utc | 12
This individual must be either a Canadian, or a Turdeau scion. It is one falsehood after another.
Canada has no legitimate interests in the Mediterranean. There exists no threat to Canada from any Mediterranean nation.
The Canadian military does not exist for the purpose of killing its service men by drowning them in Mediterranean or anywhere else. These individuals would not have suffered this fate if Canada had avoided overseas adventurism and riding on American coat tails.
These deaths were not "an unfortunate cost." They were totally unnecessary. These deaths came about because of blow hard idiots of the calibre of Bruised Northerner.
For those readers unfamiliar with the quality of the Canadian military its has difficulty promoting officers into senior positions to replace a senior officer alleged to have engaged in sexual improprieties with his subordinate. This extended to his counselling her to lie if subject to any questioning by the military police. This is the criminal offence of obstructing justice.
The next officer in line to command was General Trevor Cadieux who was forced to withdraw due to allegations of sexual impropriety against him. He then resigned his commission and fled to 404. He has since been formally charged by the Canadian military but may have been captured at the Azov plant.
The Canadian military then turned to the next officer in line. He too was found to have engaged in sexual improprieties with a subordinate.
There is a reason people drown in the Med. It may have something to do with a leadership more concerned with obtaining sexual services from their subordinates. Spending their office hours on military BJs and "couch time."
And all of the above just scratches the surface. I could spend the next few days regaling you with the arrant cupidity and imbecility of what Canada calls a "navy."
Posted by: Sushi | Jun 16 2022 15:48 utc | 35
@ Sam Smith 14
Bruised Northerner doesn't speak for me. Trudeau is a treasonous liar, and is now sweating as over 600,000 Canadians signed up to join the Conservative Party at $15 per. Over 300,000 of those back Poilievre for Con leader, so probably the next Prime Minister... if the Trudeau/Freeland/Singh troika allow an election. Not that I support all of Poilievre's policies, but he's about the best we have to unseat the WEF acolytes.
As the Trudeau WEF-Cabal showed the world the true face of the WEF/Rothschild/Soros agenda on the Trucker Convoy and its supporters, Canadians will hopefully show how to peacefully de-Nazify a country.
Posted by: Old canadian | Jun 16 2022 15:51 utc | 36
It is said that the number of mercenaries in ukraine by country is as follows
#1 country x
#2 UK
#3 US
Is country X Canada?
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2022 15:52 utc | 37
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 14:02 utc | 18
Not really.
no--like all, any, and none--is whatchu call a gramatical determiner which specififies QUANTITY, in every language, in any case har. har., the totality of the object it modifies in every har. har. "CONTEXT".
unless one subscribes to slide "rules-based" theories of opportunity.
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 15:54 utc | 38
Nice trick, BN @ #12 ... you made it sound like heroic Canadians were shot down in the Med. The chopper in question merely crashed.
BTW, what exactly is Canada’s “legitimate” national interest in the Mediterranean?
Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Jun 16 2022 15:56 utc | 39
i guess the dumb french whore thought this didn't piss china off enough so he had to out-whore himself for Daddy DC. that was under trump so at least we know he "swings both ways". if only he had the same "concern" about chinese speculators driving the real estate bubble in his own country.
it's also odd how this supposed "UN mission" against north korea wasn't undertaken by japan or y'know...south korea. i'm also pretty sure that when something gets through the DPRK border it isn't by f_cking air. at least not at any altitude above a balloon or cheap consumer drone.
Posted by: the pair | Jun 16 2022 15:56 utc | 40
@ Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:34 utc | 33
true... freeland has been moving into position for the top gig since she came on the scene... that was apparent to me at least 5 or more years back.. george soros and a whole lot more are standing directly behind her... canucks remain ignorant mostly.. you must be a canuck...
@ Norwegian | Jun 16 2022 15:52 utc | 36
i doubt it..
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2022 16:04 utc | 41
clarification: while the DPRK does have what passes for an air force and very sparse international flights, those are heavily monitored by south korea and china (and probably japan to some extent) and not the kind of thing you need fighter jets to intercept. said jets would also need intel about specific flights to pick out "UN violating" ones. and we all know from north korea's nuke program that western intel isn't anything to write home about.
Posted by: the pair | Jun 16 2022 16:05 utc | 42
Everything that Trudeau says about Korea is a lie. The lies have been repeated for so long that nobody notices them. And certainly nobody in the media would dare to question them.
For example Trudeau claimed that:
“Canada is participating in a UN mission designed to interdict and intercept and ensure the respect of sanctions on North Korea’s murderous regime,”
The word 'murderous' is worth thinking about. it is never employed with regard to the United States which murdered millions of civilians in Korea and then devastated the country, deliberately, to produce famines that would kill millions more-many millions more.
It is because of that deliberate US (Canadian supported) destruction of irrigation infrastructure, including dams also used for power generation that famines have caused the deaths and widespread malnutrition (leading to premature death) that has weakened north Korea for more than seventy years.
The sanctions imposed by the UN are designed to prevent Koreans from entering into the kind of international trade they see as necessary to improve their economic position. In a word: in order to feed themselves, their children and their aged people.
The sanctions that Canada is helping to enforce are in fact designed to ensure that North Korea suffers regularly from famines and is unable to buy food to feed itself. This is done so that people die and scoundrels like Trudeau and the media in Canada, can call the government of North Korea "murderers."
Coming only a few months after the national disgrace of Canada's prostitution of its laws in order to detain the COO of Huawei, and the associated lies concerning the two agents that China arrested, Trudeau's stupid eagerness to please the idiots in Washington (whose days are obviously numbered) is unjustifiable on any- even the most corrupt-grounds.
Posted by: bevin | Jun 16 2022 16:12 utc | 43
The next officer in line to command was General Trevor Cadieux who was forced to withdraw due to allegations of sexual impropriety against him. He then resigned his commission and fled to 404. He has since been formally charged by the Canadian military but may have been captured at the Azov plant.Posted by: Sushi | Jun 16 2022 15:48 utc | 35
Cadieu's travel timeline made it impossible for him to get inside Azov.
Cadieu could not be immediately reached for comment on Wednesday, but a CBC report quoted him as saying in a statement: "I have just been advised that I have been charged by the CFNIS."I am making arrangements to return to Canada from Ukraine, and I will continue to co-operate with this process, as I have from the start."
The more interesting development is that Russians alleged there were at least 6 foreign languages being used in intercepted calls from Azov. Not a word on the foreign nationals captured there since the "evacuation" (surrender) from either side.
Which supports my theory that a side deal to hush it up was made by Russia and the militaries forces with their staff hiding there. There was also a suspiciously timed call between Austin and Shoigu just before.
Seems we need some serious investigative reporting on that, so far crickets from both the mainstream and alt-media.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 16:22 utc | 44
Back in my youth, Canada was one viable option for draft and army resisters in the U. S. Margaret Atwood envisioned Canada as a safe base for resisters to Gilead.
That's a Canada that no longer exists. Very sad that it's so dangerous to be located close to the source of craziness in the world.
Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jun 16 2022 16:26 utc | 45
I have said before in regard to the US's China policy that we will be in deep doo-doo if we ever have to go back to making our own Christmas tree ornaments. Same probably goes for Canada.
Posted by: Richard | Jun 16 2022 16:27 utc | 46
canada and usa - in lockstep, or goosestep as the case may be... very little difference in many respects between the residents especially when it comes to foreign policy.
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2022 16:29 utc | 47
Excellent clarification. There is no end to my shame and embarrassment of my country's pathetic obedience to the Amerikan war machine. We should be a friend to China
Posted by: Doug Taggart | Jun 16 2022 16:36 utc | 48
Now forgotten - as it never came off as intended - Canada hosted what was during the lead-up touted as a major security conference designed to establish a sharp increase in aggressive activity aimed at North Korea. It was called The Vancouver Foreign Ministers’ Meeting on Security and Stability on Korean Peninsula, held in January 2018. The intention was to establish a multi-nation "maximum pressure" campaign which would include direct interdiction and build-up of naval presence.
Freeland widely touted Canada's participation in new measures ahead of the meet. But nothing came of it, in some part because of the change of leadership in the U.S. Certainly after the return of the Democrats to the White House, it has become observable that moribund projects - such as Ukraine and now North Korea - have returned to the centre of western foreign policy, marked by the use of the military as the primary stick.
Posted by: jayc | Jun 16 2022 16:51 utc | 49
I heard China has some stolen AI tech and drones that are poorly copied and manufactured. It is probably appropriate that those poorly behaved drones be tested in the real world like the Yellow Sea or Taiwan Strait. Tested and deployed at the right time for the right situations, of course.
Posted by: d dan | Jun 16 2022 17:06 utc | 50
There was a group of comedians on Canadian TV called the Royal Canadian Air Farce.
Posted by: Jonathan W | Jun 16 2022 17:24 utc | 51
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 16:22 utc | 43
At the time of the AZOVSTAHL encirclement there was one report of Cadieux being one of the captives. There was no confirmation and if he is able to respond to current media queries then it is clear the prior report was likely incorrect.
I believe the AZOVSTAHL bunker was established and equipped to function as the regional headquarters for UA military action against both Donbass and Crimea. This military action was pre-empted by the RF attack. I believe it highly likely the RF had an awareness of the planned UA / NATO attack.
Circumstantial evidence also supports this interpretation. First, the bunker was roughly equidistant between the future Donbass front and the Crimea front. Second, the bunker held sophisticated communications gear and was able to communicate with Kiev and the Pope despite advanced RF EW equipment. Third the bunker was clearly provisioned for a long term occupation (it had its own herd of pigs) and it was only when the RF cut off the water supply that the situation became dire. The occupants surrendered within two weeks of the water shut off. Fourth, the numerous re-supply, or helo evacuation, flights suggest there were high value personnel in the bunker. It is not known if any of these flights managed to evacuate personnel other than wounded.
As you mention, the RF monitored communications in multiple languages. This suggests a multi-national, probably NATO presence. The fact of Macron regularly importuning Putin with requests at this time supports NATO involvement.
That the RF has not made any announcement does not give positive evidence of anything. I suspect even were the RF to hold high value prisoners they would not broadcast this fact while continuing to obtain information from them and at the same time creating uncertainty in the minds of NATO commands.
Posted by: Sushi | Jun 16 2022 17:26 utc | 52
@45 ".....we will be in deep doo-doo if we ever have to go back to making our own Christmas tree ornaments"
I see a business opportunity here. Organic, multi-cultural Holiday ornaments made from hemp.
Posted by: dh | Jun 16 2022 17:30 utc | 53
Posted by Sam Smith #14
That remark above by "Bruised Northerner" demonstrates the idiotic and geographically challenged nature of Canucks.
LOL! So true
Posted by: Krypton | Jun 16 2022 17:33 utc | 54
Bruised Northerner should revisit a bit some of his country's history...
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/06/jfks-canadian-coup.html
Posted by: Kouros | Jun 16 2022 17:38 utc | 55
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2022 15:52 utc | 36
Country X . my guess.. France... Some would say Poland who knows..
Thanks for the Minard map/chart yesterday :) As a map collector (older the better)...how a simple looking piece has so much valuable information.
Posted by: Heavymetal101 | Jun 16 2022 17:44 utc | 56
@ Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:34 utc | 33
She is not well regarded in elite circles. The next candidate the Liberals are trying to get is Mark Carney.
Posted by: P Walker | Jun 16 2022 18:03 utc | 57
The problem with the universal "dump Trudeau" movement inside and outside the Liberal Party is that Fascist Freeland is the obvious successor.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:34 utc | 33
Freeland has been smartly place for the next move by the chess players. She stand behind Trudeau but she probably is the one that relays to commands to him.
Freeland = WEF/Schwab/Soros and directly connected to Bandera/OUN/Nazi history during WW II.
https://twitter.com/lifexplosions/status/1493542688661987331
https://twitter.com/MarinerSilas/status/1497771874562023424
https://twitter.com/HanzPow/status/1527248358951137280
I think that should clear up some things about who is in the driver's seat in Canada. The Canadian gov. has more WEF Young Global Leaders besides this Nazi lover.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 16 2022 18:15 utc | 58
@ Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:34 utc | 33
Christia Freeland is Canada’s own Madeleine Albright, and will even look like her in another 10 years.
Posted by: Krypton | Jun 16 2022 18:26 utc | 59
. . .it happens. . .from the web
>South Korea's military said it scrambled fighter jets after at least four Chinese and four Russian warplanes entered its air defence zone on Tuesday.
>U.S. Air Force RC-135U Combat Sent electronic intelligence aircraft conducted a flight in the past 24 hours along much of China's southern coastline that meets the northern end of the South China Sea.
>Russian and Chinese military planes carried out joint exercises near Japan on Tuesday while leaders of the Quad group of countries were meeting in Tokyo, the Japanese defence minister has said, calling it “provocation”.
So this about Trudeau.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2022 18:27 utc | 60
I've read postings of many folks hailing from Australia and Canada here at MOA, and they are in general excellent postings in the name of fairness in geopolitics. They have also in general been critical (dismayed) at their own government policies and actions in dealing with China. Today's GT editorial on relationships between China and these two eyes is a sober one, nailing the issues head on without citing specific examples/incidences. Wonder how Aussies and Canucks here read this editorial:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1268346.shtml
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jun 16 2022 18:32 utc | 62
Some people have mentioned the Minard diagram.
It is BS; French propaganda.
The point was to show that the vieille garde didn't lose any manly fights.
Posted by: Platero | Jun 16 2022 18:34 utc | 63
I am looking forward to the fall of the Anglo-Saxon dominated West. I am tired of the lies, woketardedness, and corruption. Maybe one day the West can experience constant encroachments by a superior foreign power near their territories and cry about it as they always do.
Posted by: Prometheus | Jun 16 2022 18:54 utc | 64
Canada is one of the major propaganda and intervention players.
Their Romeo Dallaire assisted, under UN auspices, the US/Ugandan invasion of Rwanda, 1990-1994. Then a substantial portion of the propaganda to post hoc justify the invasion (and accuse the victims, Rwandan baHutu, of being perpetrators, albeit largely debunked e.g. at the military II trial, Christopher Black's writings, Judy Rever's writings, and Edward Herman's writings) was published under his name, to wit, "Shake hands with the devil," ghost-authored on his behalf by Sian Cansfield. Dallaire also obstructed Operation Turquoise, thereby putting paid to the "warn the world/request peacekeepers" propaganda. Incidentally, the giant pile of skulls in Kigali, which are usually insinuated to be of baTúutsi, are of baHutu, murdered by the Ugandans by blows with hoes (agricultural implement), prior to decapitation and the corpses being thrown into rivers.
Canadian forces also assisted with Operation Storm, the single biggest ethnic cleansing of the Yugoslav war, by Croats against Serbs.
Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Jun 16 2022 19:02 utc | 65
Disappointing to see Canada mimic the USA. If they keep it up, Canadians will lose their excellent, provincial, cradle-to-grave health care system. They'll be forced to buy private health insurance if they can afford it. They'll enjoy the risk of bankruptcy in the event of a catastrophic health care issue. It will hang over them like a black cloud just as it does in the good ol USA. And 90 percent of them have had their vaccines and boosters, so they're primed for an epic health care shitstorm coming.
Health care bankruptcy is number one in the USA.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jun 16 2022 19:29 utc | 66
(So much concern… the more humanitarian military that’s better at defending Canada must be waiting in the wings) I don’t know why the Canadian military is conducting reconnaissance but I’m inclined to think they wouldn’t risk losing personnel and a plane, and provoking China, without good reason.
Here are the words of Canada’s Chief of Defence Staff in a recent Tweet from that Shangri-la meeting in Singapore:
“As the security environment becomes more dangerous, we must consider the global context in which we plan and conduct all of our activities and operations. What is happening in Europe, and in the Indo-Pacific, has implications in our own backyard.”
https://twitter.com/CDS_Canada_CEMD/status/1535966382700957697
In the photo, Eyre is seated between Colbert and Bridgman. That would appear to be Ted Colbert, the new head of Boeing Defence, Space and Security and Andrew Bridgman, Secretary of Defence for New Zealand.
Admiral Rob Bauer, Chair of the NATO military committee, was also there along with a lengthy list of others.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_196389.htm
You know, some of these figures could stir up a little trouble.
Hey, new T-shirt from the Beaverton for Canada Day: “Canada - looking good by comparison since 1867” (I think New Zealand comes to mind, but maybe they’re not far enough north.) They go on to say, “ "It's not good but it sometimes seems better than the other countries that our news media regularly covers" was a bit too long.” There it is!! Faulty, but still existing!! .. that’s perhaps the military’s fault most of all (the “still existing” part).
Would certain voices perhaps wish for those two Canadian ports to be wrested from the Canadian federal government’s hands? Privatized? UN-ionized?? North Americanized? Pacific regionalized??
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 19:39 utc | 67
Posted by: Platero | Jun 16 2022 18:34 utc | 62
The point was to show that the vieille garde didn't lose any manly fights.
How all wars are fought... "be a man and fight!" /s
Menard map...Well it shows me the French got their butt kicked, the Russians slowly grinding them down, and the weather didn't really play apart till their ranks were already depleted. Without getting picky, pretty much how historians concluded happen.
BS or not... How you see "things" and how I see "things" (from the map) will likely be different.
*"things" coming to a conclusion on the information seen in front of you.*
Posted by: P Walker | Jun 16 2022 18:03 utc | 56
"The next candidate the Liberals are trying to get is Mark Carney."
Bingo! my friend.. he's waiting in the shadows. A "top notch" Globalist for TPTB.
As for Trudeau.. if not already seen, his "true face" was exposed during the Truckers Convoy.. The weak ruler grows weaker.. Now has to show his masters he's still dependable, reliable, relevant etc. Hence stirring the pot with the ones he once truly admired...China.
Posted by: Heavymetal101 | Jun 16 2022 19:40 utc | 68
Posted by: bevin | Jun 16 2022 16:12 utc | 42
...The sanctions that Canada is helping to enforce are in fact designed to ensure that North Korea suffers regularly from famines and is unable to buy food to feed itself. This is done so that people die and scoundrels like Trudeau and the media in Canada, can call the government of North Korea "murderers."...
This point really illustrates how degenerate is the entire narrative surrounding North Korea and just about every country suffering from Western belligerence. I mean, here it is right in the open, a distant, 1st world country with no business whatsoever in this corner of the world justifying its intrusion with claims of enforcing an embargo. In other words, siege warfare against an economically devastated nation. Does anyone else wonder how ostensible aggression can be presented, and perceived, as virtuous intervention?
This disconnect is common in the Western narrative. The sales pitch to countless interventions solidly rests on the concept of humanitarian destruction. Ironically, the stronger the vilification of a target country's leadership, the harder the punishment of the nation as a whole. Assad is of course right off the charts, and therefore Syrians must suffer the harshest sanctions and embargo. Those poor people of Aleppo that we were so preoccupied about a few years ago are today lining up for fuel and empty shelves entirely on account of our own actions. This also applies to Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela...The list is a long one.
In my opinion, this really shows the disproportionate role of the narrative in the West's ability to pursue its strategy of global aggression. On a positive note, it is also a field with the most potential gain for parties seeking an end to this belligerence. In our present example, the Canadian leadership would not have free reigns to act as it does if the citizenry were nudged toward self awareness.
Kicking someone on the ground is not what a polite people lining up patiently at the bus stop does. It is in fact the work of assholes.
Who wants to be an asshole?
Posted by: robin | Jun 16 2022 19:50 utc | 69
Here she comes. Freeland to the rescue with a bag of sandwiches she bought in the shop.
https://twitter.com/cafreeland/status/1537444340263333888
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 16 2022 19:57 utc | 70
China should insist on a review of the sanctions against NK and make it clear that either they are canceled by the UN by a certain deadline or China will no longer participate in them.
What are they about in the first place?! Nukes? If so, NK probably did not sign the non-proliferation thingy, so they can develop nukes as much as they want. In fact, the whole world should abandon the non-proliferation treaty, in solidarity with all the countries bullied by the half dozen nuclear powers.
Posted by: Nico | Jun 16 2022 20:06 utc | 71
The agitprop in Canada and it's belief can not be overestimated.I have educated "education equals indoctrination more education equals more indoctrination" friends that have drank the Kool aid to the lees of the pitcher. We used to laugh at the ignorance of Americans and rightly so. Unfortunately, we now equal or exceed them. Spectacle has overtaken and displaced substance. We're a vassal state of the empire but so is Europe. We both gave up free trade agreements with China and Europe is self castrating itself for the empire..go figure WHY.
Posted by: Robert Hunter | Jun 16 2022 20:17 utc | 72
Chaka Khagan | Jun 16 2022 19:29 utc | 65
"And 90 percent of them have had their vaccines and boosters."
An Albertan here... Family and friends of 30 peeps.. 6/10 first va666ine 4/30 fully boosted..
Some advice.. Don't believe the numbers they're spouting out.
Losing the "covid con" narrative and inserting the next big "threat".. China. Like b said "Trudeau Is Lying - Canadian Air Patrols Near China Are Not On 'UN Mission'"
Posted by: Heavymetal101 | Jun 16 2022 20:22 utc | 73
Of course Canada has vital interests to assert with respect to China, that require to hover around its borders. It is said that the Chinese would like to oppose tree-trunk throwing as an Olympic sport. And the unfairly large number of its trappers threatens the skunk skin trade.
Posted by: Leuk | Jun 16 2022 20:27 utc | 74
Bravo B!
PS Ottawa Citizen is reporting an email from Lt-Gen Trevor Cadieu in Ukraine regarding his outstanding charges on sexual assault. Unfortunately they didn't say where he is or what he is doing there....
Retired Lt-Gen Trevor Cadieu Charged with Two Counts of Sexual Assault
"...Cadieu noted in an email to this newspaper Wednesday that he has been informed of the charges. 'I am making arrangements to return to Canada from Ukraine.."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Jun 16 2022 21:00 utc | 75
Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:08 utc | 6 says: "...Canada has legitimate security interests. Sorry if that causes offence (genuine Canadian security interests tend to)"
Of course our genuine Canadian security interests are not what Trudeau or our Military claim to be doing there, because if they made that claim, it would be equivalent to a confession that we are there to spy. It would clearly have nothing to do with enforcing sanctions on behalf of the UN.
It is worth noting that one of the very first actions of the UN Security Council was to declare war on North Korea, without giving North Korea any opportunity to dispute the probably fraudulent charges brought by the USA. That war was probably the most barbaric that the world has seen to date, with American military commenting that there was nothing left to bomb in the north.
Posted by: Steve Abbott | Jun 16 2022 21:43 utc | 76
@ bevin | Jun 16 2022 16:12 utc | 42
your post needs to be highlighted and emphasized.. thanks for saying all that.. most in their desire to demonize north korea completely lose sight of this..
@ Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 19:39 utc | 66
i am glad you stuck around and haven't disappeared for all the flack that is being thrown your way, including from me! i would be more concerned about the scenario that @ Chaka Khagan | Jun 16 2022 19:29 utc | 65 suggests.. but as to your question on privatization of the ports - this is the game plan of both leading canuck political parties - cons and libs - privatize everything.. i honestly think this is also why they are running the health care system we have into the ground... if you are concerned about things being privatized - a lot of this has already happened in canada under harper and etc. etc.. not sure how to turn this around, but voting for the 2 main parties is not the way to go..
meanwhile TSX has worst day since 2020... hum.... the hot r/e market is now cool to cold... everything is turning bad in canada at the moment and a reflection of the poor choices canucks face come election time..
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2022 21:49 utc | 77
In other news.
USA Today, was forced to retract 23 fictitious/fabricated stories written by a recently hired college graduate reporter Ms Gabriela Miranda. It was said , when exposed for this fact free fiction. Rather than being sacked she opted for same day resignation.
Given the actual course content of modern College Journalism 101. A content that includes how to rewrite and sell company propaganda media releases as fake news(actually part of Political Science minor 101 college degree course). That would come as no big surprise.
"In a hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to his/her level of incompetence." One could say she is and will remain a true adherent of the infamous "Peter Principle".
If it is too good to be true it usually is.
As for "USA Today". on a scale of one to ten. Where ten is excellent fact based journalism. One is sewer fiction journalism/propaganda showing a mere 2% of the truth. I would rate "USA Today" a level one trash media propaganda journal. A basically untrustworthy media. Requiring external fact checking at all times..............
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 16 2022 22:19 utc | 78
The problem with the universal "dump Trudeau" movement inside and outside the Liberal Party is that Fascist Freeland is the obvious successor.
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 16 2022 15:34 utc | 33
Not if Mark Carney rides into town on a white horse at just the right time
Posted by: TDeL | Jun 16 2022 22:20 utc | 79
Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Jun 16 2022 16:26 utc | 44
I don't know much about the President of Mexico, but at least he stood up to the Biden administration when it barred Maduro and others from attending its farcical Summit of the Americas.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 16 2022 22:27 utc | 80
>>>>>: Bruised Northerner | Jun 16 2022 13:08 utc | 6
with the port in Prince Rupert and the port in Vancouver being the two closest ones in North America to China,
Nah, got that wrong. Nome in Alaska is closer than either. And Dutch Harbor is even closer.
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jun 16 2022 22:31 utc | 81
Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jun 16 2022 18:32 utc | 61
"...Today's GT editorial on relationships between China and these two eyes is a sober one, nailing the issues head on without citing specific examples/incidences. Wonder how Aussies and Canucks here read this editorial:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1268346.shtml"
Hi O V,
Thanks for providing the G T editorial.
It looks like China is offering an olive branch.
The Australian uniparty leadership is paranoid of the US losing its primacy and will say or do anything to keep the wanna be's hegemon's unipolar moment afloat. If this means provoking China to the detriment of Australia's trading interests with its biggest trading partner, Australia will not hesitate to economically and politically shoot itself in the foot.
Insulting and provoking China is orchestrated to provide the desired result, which is open hostility, which could then lead to war. The process began with Obama's 'pivot to Asia.'
I have commented on this sequence of events before but details seem to have been scrubbed and overwhelmed from the internet.It would make a good documentary.
1] At the beginning of 2020 Trump announced his rejection of the WHO, its findings and its conclusions regarding Coronavirus.
2] Trump announced the need for inspections of China's Wuhan Lab by [his] handpicked inspectors with "weapons inspector powers".
3 Following the 'inspections' the US would institute court proceedings [in Trump's choice of US court] holding China liable for billions$ damages. [sovereign immunity was disregarded]
4] Trump announced the reparations would be payable to the US and would [of course] include the cancellation of the US national debt to China. Trump said, China would "owe us" and have to pay up "big time." [an old real estate/construction legal ploy]
The following night two former Australian uber Zionist foreign ministers, Julie Bishop and Alexander Downer reappeared from obscurity on ABC 7.30 Report TV echoing, almost word for word, Trump's above points 1] & 2]. By implication endorsing Trump's point 3] & 4].
Imagine Trump's hand picked thugs sifting through draws and cabinets in China demanding compliance for bogus legal processes yet to begin.
This resulted in immediate tariffs on some Australian exports by China, within hours. The desired State Department objective. The US immediately filled the trade gap/opportunity.
The unnecessary hostility and provocations predictically escalated.
Too many weak Australian politicians have routinely put the interests of other countries, large and small, before the interests of Australia, despite international law.
The Anglo/Zionist unipolar moment of unbridled lawlessness and its protection rackets is over, admit it and then the world can move on.
We can make a start with some unfinished business left over from W.W.1 in the Middle East, the grotesque and obscene Bandit State.
Posted by: Paul | Jun 16 2022 22:44 utc | 82
Here's some questions that Canada and the Free Press in general won't ask:
Who the hell appointed Canada to be "interdicting" North Korea anyways? It certainly wasn't the United Nations, as this would require UN Security Council approval, which China (and Russia) are a part of and would veto.
Last I checked, Canada is on the other side of the world from North Korea.
What right does Canada have to be there in the first place?
How about North Korea and China start "interdicting" Canada, close to Canadian military bases?
After all, Canada has participated in multiple wars of aggression based on lies over the past generation--including against Serbia, Libya, Afghanistan, and the phony War on Terrorism in general--and thus is a war criminal nation,
And their precious "Rules-Based International Order" is nothing more than a figleaf that Canada, America, and the West hide behind to militarily enforce their unipolar world order.
Posted by: ak74 | Jun 16 2022 23:19 utc | 83
@ Oriental Voice | Jun 16 2022 18:32 utc | 61
thanks for sharing and asking... here is a quote from the article which is a good summation of where it is at for canada... "For Canada and Australia, easing China ties depends on whether they can jump out of the framework set by the US. "
this is very much how i see this... this framework is also coming out of the relationship with 5 eyes - csis here in canada and the fbi-cia in the usa work together.. if they want to create the impression of a boogie man - no matter where on the planet - they will oversee and influence the media to give an impression to there liking.. they have done this in spades with regard russia, china, iran, venezuala and etc. etc. to cast them all in the most negative light possible... i am not sure how this can change easily when it seems in the best interests of these self serving politicians and intel agencies to constantly ramp up fear... the intel agencies survive on the principle of generating fear as opposed to harmony... they are given undue influence over our society.. this has become much more so since 9-11 and covid hasn't helped... controlling the narrative seems to be happening more now, rather then less.. i don't know how to change this, aside from unplugging from the msm and etc. etc...
and as @ 81 paul notes - canada and its politicians have put the interests of the usa ahead of the best interests of canada... its a complicated line to be walking when you are next door to a major player on the world stage - usa - but i reflect on back in the 70's when we had a leader - trudeau senior - who was capable and did stand up to the usa... unfortunately the quality of leadership in canada has deteriorated to such an extent that there are no such leaders anywhere near the halls of political power in canada at present, with the possible exception of maxine bernie who was polling around 5 % as memory serves... at least he speaks his mind honestly and openly... none of the other leaders do as i see it..
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2022 23:43 utc | 84
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxime_Bernier
all the other leaders are in the usa's back pocket... maybe bernier is too, but i am not as sure of that..
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2022 23:46 utc | 85
Interesting report, thanks b. Anyway, Trudeau is lying is a bit like rain is wet or nights are dark.
Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 16 2022 23:58 utc | 86
For shits and giggles … the Chinese should “make an example” of a big fat juicy target…..
Very unpatriotic of me… but.. hypothetically… if Australia were to undertake one of these not-actually-UN-authorised surveillance flights..what if the Chinese were to shoot it down?
Australia is not NATO.
There’s ANZUS and AUKUS treaties…. Let’s see how much hubris and hot air they are.
There would be screeching and sanctions… but the US would take note.
Australia would yap like the toy dog it is, and everyone would understand what “game changer” really means.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2022 23:59 utc | 87
Paul | Jun 16 2022 22:44 utc | 81
Alexander Downer.
Had a pivotal but mostly unacknowledged role in the Trump Russia collusion kabuki. It was Downers drinkies meeting in London with George Papadopolous that allowed the first FISA surveillance to be placed on Trump and his team.
Downer was in Taiwan end of last year ….as was Tony Abbott… pledging Australian full-throated support of Taiwan independence.
When Downer makes a cameo appearance now, I always take note…
He plays the buffoon so well… but he’s as big an intel asset as they come.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2022 0:07 utc | 88
Even on RT, they just report the same shit passed around in the western presstitude media.
Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 16 2022 14:13 utc | 20
Glad someone else has noticed RT's awful style, including the amateur teaser lead links to draw story hunters in. With 7,000 RF-bashing sanctions, why is RT still accessible in any form in any part of the western mediasphere? Fear not: Justin will be a bustin from clots soon enough, unless he's a placebo jab junkie.
Posted by: ERing46Z | Jun 17 2022 0:12 utc | 89
Posted by: ak74 | Jun 16 2022 23:19 utc | 82
Was skip reading, and had to laugh when i misread this:
Canada is on the other side of the world from North Korea.
What right does Canada have to be there in the first place?
Like those countries…. Iran… that have the temerity to locate their country so close to USA military bases.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2022 0:13 utc | 90
Cana has all rights to intercept all signals over South China Sea to document, would that happen, if some children in North Korea do not starve as much as they should be, and record such instances and the guilty parties. Since this is not "enforcement", it is OK. In my book a weird but innocent pastime, as innocent as annoying pilots with "unsafe maneuvers".
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 17 2022 0:13 utc | 91
One good way to reduce these problems is for the intercept plane to have a tank so that a sticky fluid can be sprayed in front of the other plane thus blinding it and forcing it to fly home on instruments and land
I might also put some colour in the fluid just for effect
Posted by: Brian Eggar | Jun 17 2022 0:24 utc | 92
Posted by: Donal | Jun 16 2022 14:10 utc | 19
“the media just regurgitates what they are told rather than doing the… work to verify a story. The article … shows how easy it would have been in this case.”
Yes, the distinctions were beyond junior reporters; these stories should have been written by those better informed, or revised upon public comment. We are fortunate in having sources better informed and able to research the issues.
Posted by: Sam F | Jun 17 2022 0:30 utc | 93
In time, Trudeau will be hanged, with Sophie and children watching, alongside the Nazi Freeland and all of the other unrepentant criminals of the Western juntas.
Posted by: Ornos | Jun 17 2022 0:38 utc | 94
A most lively discussion of sorts.
The problem is all career elected politicians tell lies big and small on a daily basis. Identical in fact to the career of one Donald Trump. That is a given real fact from the real world.
The same known serial lying career politicians also rely on corrupt non partial career advisors. Who in turn will always ignore all public/government made treaties and international laws. At the behest of their true paymasters direct requests.
Now Korea for example was never a fixed up full blown peace treaty. Merely is and remains a partial cease fire truce. With all parties whilst observing this so called cease fire. How ever both sides continue to probe for the other sides weakness . As it is part of the great game called "Gunboat Diplomacy"...........
Now , when ever a new member outside ot the original UN founding members. The then newly admitted country leaders/rulers must sign a basic undertaking to comply with a set number of basic UN rules. China is not an exemption to this UN specific admission rule. One that includes full recognition of all UN members actual existence. Plus the usual standards for sea territorial rights and specific boundary limitations.
The admission of Taiwan a former pre WW2 was an Imperial Japanese colony. The same colony was acknowledge by both the "League of Nations" and the older original pre communist era mainland Republic of China.
Fast forward to the 21st century. Every one including the new rulers of mainland china, Canada and the evil empire of the USSA are literally splitting hairs.
So on one hand Trudeau is only selling a mere 2% of the truth from the real world . Whilst telling big and little lies. Like every other normal career politician does on a daily basis. So is every other political player in the field . Not excluding the newer rulers of mainland China. A country that was bound by prior treaties of the previous legitimate government of mainland China.
Yet in the 21st century all countries are still busy waving the older gunboat diplomacy rules dating back to the Imperial Roman "BC" Empire. A game that has deadly fatal world wide consequences. Should it fail......
If one does not learn the lessons in history one will always repeat the same disaster often. Only the modern tools possessed by the main players of "Gun Boat Diplomacy" . Will reduce the entire planet to ashes.........
"The only winning move is not to play" - Joshua
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 17 2022 0:44 utc | 95
Where did this happen? Sea of Japan, Yellow Sea, East China sea? Multiple times in different areas? Stated it happen "several times" So 2,5,10 times? North Korea borders Russia on the Japan sea. So how does China fit in the mix. Reading these articles, a few questions to ponder..
Location is all the difference in this area of the world. Russia/Japan China/Japan island claims NK/SK Taiwan. Then stick the Royal Canadian Air Farce in the middle of it. What could possibly go wrong?
My guess this is why China/Russia had their joint "Military exercise" a few weeks ago.
Royal Canadian Air Farce... A excellent comedy which aired on CBC back in the days.
Posted by: Heavymetal101 | Jun 17 2022 1:07 utc | 96
@ Heavymetal101 | Jun 17 2022 1:07 utc | 95
thanks for the reminder... here is a clip on youtube for anyone who knows a wee bit about canada - good for a laugh..
Air Farce: Trudeau Ghost | CBC
Posted by: james | Jun 17 2022 1:16 utc | 97
Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 17 2022 0:44 utc | 94
"The problem is all career elected politicians tell lies big and small on a daily basis. Identical in fact to the career of one Donald Trump. That is a given real fact from the real world."
Not quite. As far as I know DJT is the only elected President who
a) wasn't 'career' as you said and more importantly
b) convincingly revealed to the citizenry just how phony and endemically corrupt the nation is and has been for quite a while.
For that reason alone he deserves far more credit than he has been given. All those who continue to mock him without acknowledging how disgracefully - not to mention seditiously - he was treated are further enabling the destruction of the Republic they seemingly support.
In any case, the profound warning his Presidency afforded the country has, as usual, been ignored by its distracted and frivolous people and so a final opportunity to turn things around has been wasted.
And so: welcome to World War III and the end of the Anglo-Zionist Empire. If it started around 1913 (though some might say 1945) it lasted a century or so, no more. In other words, a flop.
Time to go back to the drawing board. Something which America is in absolutely no shape to do...
One good way to reduce these problems is for the intercept plane to have a tank so that a sticky fluid can be sprayed in front of the other plane thus blinding it and forcing it to fly home on instruments and land
I might also put some colour in the fluid just for effect
Posted by: Brian Eggar | Jun 17 2022 0:24 utc | 91
Chinese could develop paint bullets for anti-aircraft guns, 38 mm diameter plastic paint containers, and they could stick to soot and titanium white, or to use color, perhaps like a maple leaf covering front window... I would doubt if spraying could be effective at relative air velocities we talk about, but at a very short range, light weight paint bullets could be reaching the target with some reliability. Of course, Canadians could develop paint bullets of their own...
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 17 2022 1:29 utc | 100
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There's this thing about liars: They can't keep their stories straight.
And this natural law is how one may know them.
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 16 2022 12:33 utc | 1