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June 22, 2022

The Neocon's Dream - Decolonize Russia, Re-colonize China

On March 26 U.S. President Joe Biden called for regime change in Russia:

Speaking in Warsaw, Poland, on Saturday, President Biden said of Russian President Vladimir Putin: "For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power."

The White House immediately rushed to talk back that call for regime change and a day later Biden himself denied that he was calling for regime change:

President Joe Biden told reporters on Sunday he was not calling for a regime change in Russia when he said a day earlier that Russian President Vladimir Putin “cannot remain in power,” a surprising comment the White House quickly tried to walk back Saturday.

When a reporter asked if he was calling for Putin’s removal from office, Biden replied “no” as he walked out of church Sunday afternoon, according to Bloomberg pool reporter Courtney Rozen.

However, other parts of the U.S. government makes unmistakeably clear that its aims in Russia go even much than regime change. Tomorrow the US Government's Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (CSCE) will hold a briefing on the "Moral and Strategic Imperative" that makes it necessary to "Decolonize Russia".


As Nicolo Saldo points out:

What is notable about this panel is the shift from “spreading freedom and democracy” to the need to “decolonize” Russia.

The neo-conservatives are back using a new narrative to push their old agenda.

Russian officials will love such talk:

Today’s panel is a further step forward in that it tells ordinary Russians that even regime change and democracy is not good enough for them. They require the partition of their country into smaller (more easily controlled) polities, so that they can be free. Needless to say, this is a propaganda coup for Putin and the Kremlin as it allows them to paint the conflict in Ukraine as an existential fight.

The Kremlin has no need to 'paint' the conflict as an existential fight. The Russians know that it is such a fight.

Biden's haplessness continues to tank the Democrats chances to keep house majority.

In a meager attempt to tackle the high fuel price he will today call on Congress to suspend the tax on fuel for three month. It is just a gimmick which would have little effect at the pump and has no chance to pass Congress:

GOP lawmakers have been hammering Biden and Democrats on the campaign trail over inflation and fuel prices. They argue that such measures are political theater that will do little to make long-term dents in oil prices. The best way to reduce oil prices, they say, is to loosen regulations and increase U.S. oil production.
California had the highest average gas price of any state at $6.398 per gallon. The gas tax suspension would reduce the cost of a gallon of diesel fuel by 24 cents.

The real reason for high fuel prices is Biden's misguided foreign policy. Three of the biggest oil producers on the globe, Venezuela, Iran and Russia, are under U.S. sanctions that limit their oil exports:

The sanctions have made it more difficult for Russia to sell its oil. Biden has also banned the import of Russian oil, and last month Europe announced it was imposing a partial embargo on it.

As of 2020, Russia was the world’s third-largest producer of petroleum, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

As the New York Times correctly headlines:

Western Move to Choke Russia’s Oil Exports Boomerangs, for Now

That move will continue to boomerang. Russia sells it oil to China and India where it gets refined. The resulting gasoline and diesel is then exported to the U.S.. That is good for India and China as they buy the oil with a rebate and sell the end products with a substantial margin. It is a 'win' 'win' 'win' for Russia, India and China with the sole loser being the 'west'. Whatever NYT hope of sanction success is expressed in its 'for now' addition to the headline is not going to change that.

Meanwhile Russia is announcing the next target of its campaign to counter 'western' misbehavior - the reserve status of the U.S. dollar and the Euro:

MOSCOW, June 22. /TASS/. The issue of creating an international reserve currency based on currencies of BRICS member-states is under consideration, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday in the welcome address to BRICS Business Forum participants.

"The matter of creating the international reserve currency based on the basket of currencies of our countries is under review," the Russian leader said.

BRICS currently consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. Together those countries represent 3.2 billion people and a third of the world's purchase power GDP. The new international reserve currency would therefore have a much larger backing than the U.S. dollar or the Euro.

The U.S. is moving too but in the wrong direction.

Some in the Biden administration are pushing to lower Trump era tariffs on Chinese goods. M.K.Bhadrakumar interprets that as an attempt of a new détente with China. I doubt that lowering the tariffs would have much effect on prices in the U.S. as a new law that became applicable yesterday will raise prices of goods from China even more. The U.S. is slowly waking up to the consequences of such stupidity:

The Biden administration has said it intends to fully enforce the law, which could lead the U.S. authorities to detain or turn away a significant number of imported products. Such a scenario is likely to cause headaches for companies and sow further supply chain disruptions. It could also fuel inflation, which is already running at a four-decade high, if companies are forced to seek out more expensive alternatives or consumers start to compete for scarce products.

Failure to fully enforce the law is likely to prompt an outcry from Congress, which is in charge of oversight.

“The public is not prepared for what’s going to happen,” said Alan Bersin, a former commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection who is now the executive chairman at Altana AI. “The impact of this on the global economy, and on the U.S. economy, is measured in the many billions of dollars, not in the millions of dollars.”

As Bhadrakumar acidly comments:

When Russia attacked Ukraine and the West imposed sanctions against Moscow, Washington threatened China that any move on its part to help Russia circumvent the sanctions would trigger severe punishment. Now the wheel has come full circle and the US needs China’s helping hand to salvage its economy. This is Thucydides Trap turned upside down — an emerging power rescuing an entrenched great power, whose extravagance pauperised it.

I doubt that. Tariffs or no tariffs China will not help the U.S. in anything. It knows that the U.S-Russian proxy war is about much more than Ukraine.

The current U.S. aim may well be to decolonize Russia, but its real geopolitical aim is a re-colonization of China.

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Ah, they do love to mis-use words. But surely the rest of the world has to get a big belly laugh over the US and the UK talking about 'de-colonizing'.

These people seem to be as confused as to the meaning of 'de-colonization' as they are with other words such as 'freedom' or 'democracy' or 'self-determination'.

But of course, what they want is a very un-free world, which is ruled by oligarchs from Washington, where no one gets any right to determine who rules them (but perhaps gets to choose the hair-style, so long as they never make the 'wrong' choice), and where all the rest of the world is their colony. Although they may refer to some colonial states, the ones ruled by 'whites', as 'partners', in the same way that abusive corporations refer to their wage-slaves as 'partners' before they work them to death and deny them healthcare.

Posted by: George | Jun 22 2022 17:10 utc | 1

I do have a bit of an observation to make. I work on Portland Ave in Tacoma. Across the river from the port of Tacoma. There is a huge dirt field along the river that mysteriously became the home of a gigantic shipping container lot stacked at least 8 high.. It was enormous. In my mind this was part of the "great reset". I understand this was happening in other port cities to. My thinking is this was all a break from China/US trade. Rather than being at sea going back and forth they all came off the ships and got stored on land. Well... in the last 2 weeks this gigantic field is down to several separated stacks. Maybe 1/20th of what was there before. Is this an attempt to restart global trade? The davos crowd's plan isnt' working out? Any thoughts?

Posted by: goldhoarder | Jun 22 2022 17:14 utc | 2

I have not had to face a complete threat to my worldview. That has made a lot of what is going on much easier for me to accept. I grew up with intelligent and broadly traveled grandparents on both sides who did not trust the wealthy, powerful or governments for very clear and established reasons.

I learned to drive and drove thousands of miles the summer of 1973, then we moved to Japan, and the Yom Kippur War and Arab Oil Embargo happened.
I was taught about the Limits to Growth as that embargo was going on across the Pacific in the USA. Resources get used up. Pollution happens. Economy shrinks. Population can't be supported anymore so a lot of people die, but it would all happen in about 50 years; nothing bad until economic collapse time.
"I may not even be alive in 50 years, but I sure won't get a retirement", I thought.
Here we are.

Charles Hugh Smith, Our Economy In a Nutshell
The economy has reached an inflection point where everything that is unsustainable finally starts unraveling.
​ ​Beneath its surface stability, our economy is precarious because the foundation of the global economy-- cheap energy--has reached an inflection point: from now on, energy will become more expensive.
​ ​The cost will be too low for energy producers to make enough money to invest in future energy production, and too high for consumers to have enough money left after paying for the essentials of energy, food, shelter, etc., to spend freely.
​ ​For the hundred years that resources were cheap and abundant, we could waste everything and call it growth: when an appliance went to the landfill because it was designed to fail (planned obsolescence) so a new one would have to be purchased, that waste was called growth because the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) went up when the replacement was purchased.
​ ​A million vehicles idling in a traffic jam was also called growth because more gasoline was consumed, even though the gasoline was wasted.
​ ​This is why the global economy is a "waste is growth" Landfill Economy​.​..

​ ​Now that we've consumed all the easy-to-get resources, all that's left is hard to get and expensive. For example, minerals buried in mountains hundreds of miles from paved roads and harbors require enormous investments in infrastructure just to reach the deposits, extract, process and ship them to distant mills and refineries. Oil deposits that are deep beneath the ocean floor are not cheap to get.
​ ​Does it really make sense to expect that the human population can triple and our consumption of energy increase ten-fold and there will always be enough resources to keep supplies abundant and prices low? No, it doesn't.
​ ​Many people believe that nuclear power (fusion, thorium reactors, mini-reactors, etc.) will provide cheap, safe electricity that will replace hydrocarbons (oil and natural gas). But nuclear power is inherently costly, and there are presently no full-scale fusion or thorium reactors providing cheap electricity to thousands of households.
​ ​Reactors take many years to construct and are costly to build and maintain. Cost over-runs are common. A new reactor in Finland, for example, is nine years behind schedule and costs have tripled.
​ ​The U.S. has built only two new reactors in the past 25 years.​..
​ ​Many believe so-called renewable energy such as solar and wind will replace hydrocarbons. But as analysts Nate Hagens has explained, these sources are not truly renewable, they are replaceable; all solar panels and wind turbines must be replaced at great expense every 20 to 25 years. These sources are less than 5% of all energy we consume, and it will take many decades of expansion to replace even half of the hydrocarbon fuels we currently consume.
​ ​To double the energy generated by wind/solar in 25 years, we'll need to build three for each one in service today: one to replace the existing one and two more to double the energy being produced.
​ ​All these replacements for hydrocarbons require vast amounts of resources: diesel fuel for transport, materials for fabricating turbines, panels, concrete foundations, and so on.
​ ​Humans are wired to want to believe that whatever we have now will still be ours in the future. We don't like being told we'll have less of anything in the future.
​ ​The current solution is to create more money out of thin air in the belief that if we create more money, then more oil, copper, iron, etc. will be found and extracted.​..​​..Many people feel good about recycling a small part of what we consume. But recycling is not cost-free, and the majority of what we consume is not recycled.
​ ​The percentage of lithium batteries that are recycled, for example, is very low, less than 5%. We have to mine vast quantities of lithium because we dump 95% of lithium-ion batteries in the landfill. There are many reasons for this, one being that the batteries aren't designed to be recycled because this would cost more money.
​ ​The majority of all manufactured goods--goods that required immense amounts of hydrocarbons to make--are tossed in the landfill.
​ ​Goods and services are commoditized and sourced from all over the world in long dependency chains (hyper-globalization): if one link breaks, the entire supply chain breaks.​..

..​Each of these systems is dependent on all the other systems (what we call a tightly bound system), so when one critical system unravels, the crisis quickly spreads to the entire economic system: one domino falling knocks down all the dominoes snaking through the global economy.​ (Internet?)
​ Those who understand how tightly interconnected, unsustainable systems are basically designed to unravel can prepare themselves by becoming antifragile: flexible, adaptable and open to the opportunities that arise when things are disorderly and unpredictable.​ (Easily said.)

M.K. Bhadrakumar, “West at inflection point in Ukraine war”​ ​“Fundamentally, the Western economies are facing a systemic crisis. The complacency that the reserve-currency-based US economy is impervious to ballooning debt; that the petrodollar system compels the entire world to purchase dollars to finance their needs; that the flood of cheap Chinese consumer goods and cheap energy from Russia and Gulf States would keep inflation at bay; that interest rate hikes will cure structural inflation; and, above all, that the consequences of taking a trade-war hammer to a complex network system in the world economy can be managed — these notions stand exposed.”​ ​

​ Michael Hudson article is short enough that I won't edit it, but it hinges upon a point that Charles made above, that the prices are too low for producers and too high for consumers. In classic and Marxist analysis the cost of energy is not considered as such, because coal was just one input, for instance. Hudson does not often give enough thought to why energy costs are too high for consumers and too low for energy producers​. He does look at parasitic costs of predatory financial capitalism, how nobody makes money investing long term anymore (refineries in the news. Also predatory costs of bureaucracy, especially as to making mandates that happen to create a single monopoly in many fields, with monopoly pricing, and the costs of ever growing regulatory and distributive bureaucracies.
The crude "fix" to rebalance the system is to squeeze the wages of productive workers. This has been done already since 1977. At the same time the costs of daily life, fees, taxes, professional bills, utilities, licensing, groceries, medical and other insurance have all gone up, up, up. That card is being played again, by raising interest rates, but the squeezed have no blood to give. More are losing their places to live. Another recent interview had Professor Hudson advocating "making America Great again" by copying China copying the America of 120 years ago. That would mean putting all public utilities back in public ownership, including banking (Bank of North Dakota style) and lowering predatory rent costs to the economic system that way.
The Fed’s Austerity Program to Reduce Wages
​ ​Addendum: Yves Smith of Naked Capitalism reminds me that: “Paul Volcker made it explicit that the Fed is in the business of crushing labor. As reported by William Greider in Secrets of the Temple, when Volcker was driving interest rates to the moon, he kept a note card in his pocket. It was a record of weekly average construction wages. Volcker wanted them to go down as proof his harsh medicine was working.”

Posted by: John Day | Jun 22 2022 17:14 utc | 3

Michael Hudson and John Day (Comment #3) make it sound like the goal is to impoverish labor. Paul Volcker was not seeking to impoverish labor. In a typical process of disinflation, there is a period of higher unemployment, and adjustments in the labor market (as well as elsewhere) are necessary to restore equilibrium and bring about greater price stability. On a longer-term basis, labor compensation depends on labor productivity. On average, American workers are much better off than workers in Russia or China because their productivity is higher. Average living standards in China are still below those in Mexico. Even before the Special Military Operation, Russia was below the level of Greece.

Posted by: greg | Jun 22 2022 17:36 utc | 4

Most of the US China "policy", on the import side, is basically intended to harrass. The near total dependency of the US material economy on China doesn't allow more, and anyway the demand from Chinese internal market can support every industry there is, entirely on its own. So as far as import restrictions are concerned, it's just Trump style puffery, fine for making enemies and perhaps for impressing some first-term legislators.

Actual strategic effect require the US to stop China from trade with the rest of the world - like with Huawei. For any more of that, the door is half closed already, and continuing to close.

As for the Neocon's.... Such arrogance on proud display, and such complete lack of self awareness... Amazing. The Neocon's are truly the PR gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: ptb | Jun 22 2022 17:45 utc | 5

Articles like the one cited above and others like it are fraught with wishful thinking and blatant inaccuracies. I came to the conclusion that they are used simply to prop up what is left of the MSM's "viewer-base", lest they have a complete breakdown and just admit that they have been lying the entire time. But they have to make incremental admissions because so many millions have moved on and formed their own views based on solid information. The ultimate curse for these entities is to be playing to an empty theater, much like CNN+....

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 22 2022 17:46 utc | 6

Bulgarian government down, hopefully the beginning of a domino fall of all the Euro traitors that are driving us to perdition road. Seems like that Petkov guy was Canadian, I have to check it out, but I would not be surprised after all the Baltic nazi grandchildren raised in Canada and sent back to organize the great mess we're in. A streak of good news coming amid the madness, cruelty and destruction that came from the other side of the ocean. Gringo, go home and get lost, leave the world alone, we'll manage fine without you, your democracy bullshit, your poison cola and your garbage grub freedom fries.

Posted by: Paco | Jun 22 2022 17:52 utc | 7

Thank you, b. Gee, I feel powerful - I made the 'existential' point late last night before bed on your previous post. Somebody down here was watching, I guess.


Posted by: juliania | Jun 22 2022 17:53 utc | 8

That would mean putting all public utilities back in public ownership
Posted by: John Day | Jun 22 2022 17:14 utc | 3

This is fantasy (complementing bogus corporate citizenship proposition of "inclusive" shareholders and so-called stakeholder) and has never been the case in US economic history. In the last century, landmark New Deal legislation such as Glass-Steagal of 1932 and the Public Utilities Holding Act of 1935 did little more than cap controlling shares of investor-owned utilities (IOUs). Altho' the Public Works Administration (PWA) carved out federal land management for a handfull of hydro-generating projects, neither act "nationalized" corporate monopolistic property nor production capacity. Leaving the vast majority of rural US America in the dark dependent on private "business needs," crooked state utility commissions, laterns, coal, and underfunded "municpal-owned" utilities for close to 40 years. Then, 70 years later the US Congress totally trashed the PUHCA in 2006.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 17:57 utc | 9

Russia has already been decolonized. By Putin. Which is why we trust him and continue to vote for him.

Posted by: S | Jun 22 2022 17:57 utc | 10

While schadenfreude over America's thrashing about over inflation and other economic woes it brought on itself with its bullying sanctions policy leads to a sense of satisfaction at present, one must consider where its frustration might lead ..... with the mid-term elections so close and Biden's approval rating tanking because of these economic and foreign policy disasters, the Democratic Party is poised to take a staggering defeat in the House and Senate elections.

The certainty of a massive majority in the House and the possibility of 66+ veto-proof Senate seats would leave Biden powerless to stop whatever craziness the Republicans might enact -- the prospect is unsettling to say the least.

In any event, the 2024 presidential election is even more frightening -- unless the Georgia election case leads to a conviction that might be disentitling, it appears that the Orange Loudmouth will almost certainly be nominated and elected ..... with a Republican House and Senate, that ensuing future is terrifying.

Posted by: chet380 | Jun 22 2022 17:58 utc | 11

"Average living standards in China are still below those in Mexico. Even before the Special Military Operation, Russia was below the level of Greece."
Posted by: greg | Jun 22 2022 17:36 utc | 4

What pipe are you smoking? China has the largest middle class in the world and it's still growing.
I live in an expensive Evergrande estate in a Tier 4 Chinese city. Many of my neighbours are villagers buying apartments in the city. It's their second home. For some they bought multi units for the extended families to live within reach .
How many families in Greece and Mexico live like this?

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 22 2022 17:59 utc | 12

Isn't the end goal obvious? a region with enormous natural resources and relatively few people, just waiting to be exploited.

Posted by: ian | Jun 22 2022 18:00 utc | 13

Here's my comment from the "Ukraine Sitrep" thread last night:

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 21 2022 17:00 utc | 391

Thank you, William Gruff. I would add to your reflections that when the Russians said that they had no choice, that was totally believable in my book -- and who said back to them 'O yes,friends, partners, you do have a choice, here it is'? Nobody. Because they agreed; they were giving no choice. There was no dialogue. Nobody sitting down and saying this or that was on the table. That is what is so horrible, horrible and shameful.

All that Russia is doing is reacting defensively to increasingly offensive actions threatening their existence, as they threaten the existence of Ukrainians only longing for that existence in their own homeland. That's what existential means!

And people, if you don't know this is what is happening, I'm very sorry but you are very, very lost.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 22 2022 6:29 utc | 456

Posted by: juliania | Jun 22 2022 18:02 utc | 14

Before the Yankees waste time wishing they could decolonise Russia, they should urgently tackle the task of decolonising Amerikkka - by evicting all the unelected Neocons from the USG and relocating the capital of the USA from Tel Aviv to Washington and putting US citizens in charge. Again.

Posted by: Hoarsewhlsperer | Jun 22 2022 18:03 utc | 15

On the price of fuel. Recall that during the oughts and just prior to the massive banking fraud that caused the 2008 financial crisis global oil price average was just under $100/bbl as the series of charts here details but gas and diesel prices were several dollars/gal lower than now, although oil prices aren't much higher than then. The evidence forces us to conclude Big Oil is massively price gouging while trying to lay the blame on anyone but themselves. I'm very surprised this argument's not been used despite the massive amount of data in its support.

Earlier today, RT published this, "BRICS developing global reserve currency – Putin" and also reported BRICS " said it was working on setting up a joint payment network to cut reliance on the Western financial system." Here's the link to Putin's BRICS speech and the exact excerpt of what he said about currency:

"Together with our BRICS partners, reliable alternative mechanisms for international payments are being developed. The Russian system of transmitting financial messages is open for connecting banks of the "five" countries. The geography of the use of the Russian payment system Mir is expanding. The issue of creating an international reserve currency based on a basket of currencies of our countries is being worked out."

Xi also made a speech, "Highlights of President Xi’s speech at the opening ceremony of the BRICS Business Forum", the four boxed highlights all being broadsides directed at the Outlaw US Empire. I already reported on the very powerful Global Times editorial warning the Outlaw US Empire of the coming consequences to its law breaking activities in the Taiwan Strait.

Anthrax detected in Southern Russia, may or may not be the result of Outlaw US Empire bioweapon lab work in Ukraine.

And today marks the 81st anniversary of Hitler's invasion of USSR. A meeting of the Security Council was held but no readout was supplied by the Kremlin aside from the attendance roster. The OSCE speech I linked to on the previous thread. Lavrov's in Iran having talks with President Raisi.

Perhaps the most interesting part of Zakharova's briefing was informing everyone of the new address accorded to the Outlaw US Empire's embassy in Moscow:

The U.S. Embassy in Russia received a new official address. Now the US diplomatic mission is located at the address: Moscow, Donetsk People's Republic Square, 1, buildings 1-9.

The initiative to perpetuate the memory of the defenders of Donbass on the city map was made by deputies of the Moscow City Duma. We have seen how the U.S. Embassy fully supported this initiative. We thank American diplomats for their attention, support and PR of this action. At the same time, the Moscow Government received numerous appeals from citizens with various variants of the name. The contribution of the American diplomatic mission in the form of a free consultation was invaluable. Thank you. Write more.

About 45 percent of the 278,684 participants voted for the name in the Active Citizen project. About 45 percent of the 278,684 participants voted for the winning version.

I hope that the United States will not delay the recognition of the young republics of Donbass. The potential there is excellent, industrial, I am not talking about personnel at all. And I can advise everyone: write letters to the new address.

A question on everyone's mind is the reaction to the Outlaw US Empire's use of Lithuania to escalate tensions. Here's Zakharova's answer:

Maria Zakharova: I would like to draw your attention to what everyone has commented on: the Foreign Ministry, the Presidential Executive Office, and the Security Council of our country. In particular, a statement was made by security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev.

Our position is well known. In addition, in addition to public channels, it was also communicated to the actors of this absolutely illegitimate story – to Lithuania through the embassy of this country in Russia and to the representative of the European Union on the territory of our country. Reports about this were published on the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia.

As for the response. Now they are being worked out in an interdepartmental format. It was stated to both Lithuania and the European Union through their diplomatic missions in Moscow about the inadmissibility of such actions, the need to change the steps taken and return the situation to a legitimate legitimate course. If this is not done, then (this was emphasized at all levels in Moscow) retaliatory actions will be inevitable.

Now to the question of what they will be. I received a lot of questions about this. One of the main questions concerned whether they would be exclusively diplomatic. The answer is no. They will not be diplomatic, but practical. What and when it depends (as we have said today and said all these days) on the actions of the EU and Lithuania. If this does not happen, then they will be introduced. What will they be? I think we will talk about this when the decision is agreed and it is announced.

I'll try to find Patrushev's statement and post it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 18:04 utc | 16

deregulation d/b/a competition, domestic and foreign, is the capstone on every western iteration of "democratizing" public utilities--from fuel and banking to water ways and telecommunication.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 18:05 utc | 17

thanks b...

too bad it is all too late... carol king could write a song about it...

@ George | Jun 22 2022 17:10 utc | 1

nice summation..

@ goldhoarder | Jun 22 2022 17:14 utc | 2

i am not sure what that is about..

Posted by: james | Jun 22 2022 18:09 utc | 18

It may very come to a a large scale “turning away” from the USA and it’s proxies. What about the 800+ military bases that are due to be either named over or mothballed….? In the coming turmoil which sees the population of most of the world getting choked out by the Manipulator-Plutocrat minority, there might be quite a few pitchforks in play. When the desperation reaches a critical mass and the cries of ‘kick the bums out!’ are heard throughout the city something’s gotta give.

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 22 2022 18:16 utc | 19

Opening calling for 'decolonization' of Russia? WTF?

Solidarity founder/Nobel Prize laureate/former Poland President Lech Walensa was here in Austin about two months ago, speaking out at UT. I wasn't impressed with anything much he said about the political situation nowadays nor overmuch with his intellectual lights in general and in all it seemed to me the right thing that the voters in Poland didn't reelect him. He did talk some about Ukraine, which led him to talk about Russia and his dealings with Russia as president both of Solidarity and of Poland. Walensa told a story of his explaining to some Russian leader (whose name I can't remember, sorry) about how he had no problems with the Russians as a people and that his problems with Russia the nation would be solved if Russia split into about five different republics. Walensa averred that the Russian people themselves would be a whole lot happier if this came to pass.

I thought at the time that this was a stupid analysis and a stupid thing for Walensa to tell a senior Russian official. Until today, I'd have used this story as evidence for the proper functioning of democracy being served best by elections changing out incompetent leaders from power with new ones who would do better. But as of today, I can't, because this stupidity seems to have traveled from Warsaw to DC, and taken root there in our ruling class there. Good God, we have fallen so far as to steal our political ideas from the Poles. There's likely no hope for us then.

Walensa did strike me, however, as a nice guy who'd be a great person to chat with over a beer. Sorta like Bill Clinton, ya know.

Posted by: Daniel N. White | Jun 22 2022 18:17 utc | 20

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 18:04 utc | 16

Excellent summary of today's events, add to it the announcement that foreign debt and obligations are to be repaid in Rubles, add to it that the Ruble has regained over a quarter of its value so there you go, the debt repayment is cheaper. Too bad it is a tragic situation with thousands of victims and immense destruction, otherwise the behavior of western politicians is just an Opera Buffa, more stupid impossible.

Posted by: Paco | Jun 22 2022 18:20 utc | 21


I am unable to get the telegram channels. They broke about March. If someone would please print the MOD clobber list daily, it would sure help all of us that are under censorship on reality.

colonization and de-colonization, what a load of crap. In fact, that is exactly what it is. The colon sends waste on its way out the garbage chute. De-Colonization is what the western leaders to, try to shove the crap back our asses. I am getting pretty tired of having to dodge excrement every day with the pedantic nightmare these poodles spew.

Posted by: Tard | Jun 22 2022 18:22 utc | 22

Posted by: Daniel N. White | Jun 22 2022 18:17 utc | 20

If you look around you'd find links of Walesa being a CIA stooge.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 22 2022 18:25 utc | 23

@Goldhorder #2

Containers have been clogging the ports preventing off loading. Moving the containers out of the ports freed up room to unload. Shanghai in China which is Chinas largest port has been in a lock down for a 3 months trying to eliminate Covid. It has opened up again and a tsunami of ships is coming to North America so that lot should fill up again. You can find more here.

Posted by: BraveNewWorld | Jun 22 2022 18:25 utc | 24

Walensa did strike me, however, as a nice guy who'd be a great person to chat with over a beer. Sorta like Bill Clinton, ya know.

Posted by: Daniel N. White | Jun 22 2022 18:17 utc | 20

Someone correct me with better insights if you have them, but I think this is basically correct about Walesa. Nice guy, in way over his head, huge blind spots, but somewhat capable of learning.

Bill Clinton, on the other hand, was a cold-blooded manipulator and intellectual (Rhodes Scholar even) who knew how to play the "jes' folks" act.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2022 18:25 utc | 25

Perhaps the most interesting part of Zakharova's briefing was informing everyone of the new address accorded to the Outlaw US Empire's embassy in Moscow:
The U.S. Embassy in Russia received a new official address. Now the US diplomatic mission is located at the address: Moscow, Donetsk People's Republic Square, 1, buildings 1-9.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 18:04 utc | 16

Hardly a new PR tactic, here in Toronto, early in the conflict, they renamed the area in front of the Russian Consulate "Free Ukraine Square".

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 22 2022 18:29 utc | 26

Posted by: BraveNewWorld | Jun 22 2022 18:25 utc | 24

Re empty containers, shippers are loath to send back to China empty containers. So these are dumped and China makes new containers to send over to US filled with the goodies that US consumers love from China. Of course the US buyers will pay for these new containers too.
The trade deficit is growing since China isn't buying that much from US due to the embargo.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 22 2022 18:31 utc | 27

Thanks to K on the Sitrep thread for responding to my statement there.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 22 2022 18:33 utc | 28

Speaking of secession and decolonization, I see republicans in Texas are contemplating it again...

Seems a heavy handed way to get rid of Ted Cruz ;-)

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 22 2022 18:35 utc | 29

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 22 2022 18:29 utc | 26

Re: "Free Ukraine Square" — well, it will soon be free indeed, but not as those retards intended :-)

Posted by: Nervous German | Jun 22 2022 18:44 utc | 30

The best report on Patrushev's statement in English I could find is here:

"Russia will certainly react to such hostile actions. Appropriate measures are being worked out in an interdepartmental format and will be taken in the near future. Their consequences will have a serious negative impact on the population of Lithuania," Patrushev said at a meeting on national security issues in Kaliningrad on Tuesday.

According to him, the situation in the border area on the territory of the district is being formed "in the conditions of the North Atlantic Bloc's military and intelligence presence near the state border of Russia, as well as under the influence of unprecedented political, informational and economic pressure from the West."

"The latest example of this is Lithuania's blockade by Western countries, in violation of the norms and principles of international law, of transit through its territory to the Kaliningrad Region of a large group of goods," Patrushev said.

This example, according to him, "shows that one cannot trust not only the oral statements of the West, but also written ones, too."

The Lithuania situation is certainly up for discussion at today's Security Council session. The Lithuanian pawn is being moved forward on the board and IMO will be forced to back off or be removed from the board. The ferry shipment system will be increased to make up for the decline in rail service. Fron what I know of Kaliningrad's military capabilities, it could easily conquer Lithuania itself.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 18:44 utc | 31

@ptb, #5:

I agreed with most of what you said. On the thesis that:

Actual strategic effect require the US to stop China from trade with the rest of the world - like with Huawei. For any more of that, the door is half closed already, and continuing to close.

I would raise a strain of dissention. Would stopping Chinese enterprises, such as Huawei, cause strategic pain to China any more than it would the rest of the world? I'd rather think that, even without trades with the rest of the world, China, due to its population size, general skill levels of workers, and the sheer size of its landmass and resources, is one of only a few nations of the world which can be considered self-sufficient. It won't be as prosperous as freely trading with the world, but it would do okay in comparison with what the rest of the world would also lose by not trading with China. The bottom line being, over the past 4 decades, China has proved its efficiency and diligence.

Trade is supposed to be mutually beneficial to be sustainable. Exclusion of China from global trade, China won't be the only loser. I'd think the rest of the world would lose even bigger. This is the state of being in today's world.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jun 22 2022 18:46 utc | 32

@karlof1 #16
The previous record high US average gas price was set in July 2008.
The notion that gasoline prices were "several dollars cheaper" in 2008 is because oil prices were not $147/barrel or even $100/barrel for all of 2008. Oil was $30 at one point in 2008, for example and closed 2008 at $44.80, but gasoline prices in July 2008 were $4.144 - and we have had 12 years of inflation + dollar purchasing power devaluation since then.
There is a more legitimate complaint about refinery capacity - but then again, why exactly would any oil company invest in new refineries when the US government, limousine liberals and NGOs are all pushing hard for alternative energy and EVs?

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 22 2022 18:49 utc | 33

greg #4

wages vs productivity since 1949. Not as you suggested.

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Jun 22 2022 18:49 utc | 34

@Daniel N. White #20
The views expressed by Walesa is a common fantasy among Poles - to have one of their gigantic neighbors break up into small parts which Poland can then be an equal among, as opposed to a Chihuahua interposed between an elephant and a rhino.
Or put more historically, so Poland can reprise its role as a Great Power as they did in the era of the Polish-Lithuanian empire.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 22 2022 18:51 utc | 35

Hate to get all "woke" and all, but the U.S. needs to focus on de-colonizing itself and leave everyone else TF alone.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2022 18:52 utc | 36

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 22 2022 18:49 utc | 32

From what I've read, and it's been a while, one of the main reasons for no new refineries is NIMBY politics in both "red" and "blue" areas. Also the term "limousine liberals" isn't a very biting insult anymore. I don't even get what it implies it's been so long. Like Democrat politicians who use a limo instead of the subway or something?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2022 18:55 utc | 37

@Posted by: greg | Jun 22 2022 17:36 utc | 4

@Posted by: Surferket | Jun 22 2022 17:59 utc | 12

You just need to look at the World Bank GDP Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) per capita numbers, easily accessible

For 2020: China US$17,200; Russia US$29,800; Mexico US$18,444

China will very soon overtake Mexico. China GINI coefficient (that measures income inequality) has also been falling significantly since 2010, from 43.7 to 38.2 (in 2019). That means that the growth of the last decade plus has increasingly benefitted those with lower incomes, reflecting Xi's drive to lower such inequality. Mexicos's was 47.2 in 2010, 45.4 in 2019, not much of a change.

For comparison, in the US (a large outlier for inequality vs. other rich nations) the GINI was 40 in 2010 and 41.5 in 2019. In Germany it has been rising in the past two decades, but is still only at 31.7.

Posted by: Roger | Jun 22 2022 19:06 utc | 38

Paco @21--

Thanks for your reply. I thought about adding the debt payment item to the list, but the anthrax issue I deemed more important. Today's Pepe Escobar's Continuance Day and his latest is now out, "Exile on Main Street: The Sound of the Unipolar World Fading Away". I saw a note saying Putin will address the BRICS meeting tomorrow, Xi having done so today. There was an item about Argentina's great desire to become a member.

Unfortunately, I must disagree with Pepe here as the West has no conscience:

"Hunger in the poorest nations will be on the conscience of the West and euro-democracy."

Pepe notes Putin has Lavrov's back regarding the BBC interview:

If this pain dial overdrive was not enough to hurl the collective West – or NATOstan – into Terminal Hysteria, then Putin’s sharp comment on possibly allowing Mr. Sarmat to present his business card to “decision-making centers in Kiev”, those that are ordering the current shelling and killing of civilians in Donetsk, definitely did the trick:

“As for the red lines, let me keep them to myself, because this will mean quite tough actions on the decision-making centers. But this is an area that shouldn’t be disclosed to people outside the military-political leadership of the country. Those who deserve appropriate actions on our part should draw a conclusion for themselves – what they may face if they cross the line.”

Pepe then turns to tomorrow's BRICS Summit in Beijing and updates us on an amazing amount of behind-the-scenes activities:

As much as the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU) and ASEAN, now it’s time for a reinvigorated BRICS to step up its game. In conjunction, these are the key organizations/instruments that will be carving the pathways towards the post-unipolar era.

Both China and India (which between them were the largest economies in the world for centuries before the brief Western colonial interregnum) are already close and getting closer to “the Noah’s Ark of the world economy”.

The G20 – hostages of the Michael Hudson-defined FIRE scam that is the core of the financialized neoliberal casino – is slowly fading away, while a potential new G8 ramps up: and that is directly connected to BRICS expansion, one of the key themes of this week’s summit. An expanded BRICS with a parallel G8 configuration is bound to easily overtake the Western-centric one in importance as well as GDP by purchasing power parity (PPP).

BRICS in 2021 already added Bangladesh, Egypt, the UAE and Uruguay to its New Development Bank (NDB). In May, at Foreign Ministry-level debates, Argentina, Egypt, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Nigeria, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Senegal and Thailand were added to the 5 BRICS members. Leaders of some of these nations will be connected to the Beijing summit.

BRICS plays a completely different game from the G20. They aim for the grassroots, and it’s all about slowly “building trust” – a very Chinese concept. They are creating an independent Credit Rating Agency – away from the Anglo-American racket – and deepening a Currency Reserves Arrangement. The NDB – including its regional offices in India and South Africa – has been involved in hundreds of projects. Time will tell: one day the NDB will make the World Bank superfluous....

Yaroslav Lissovolik had already proposed a BEAMS concept as the core of this BRICS integration drive, uniting “the key regional integration initiatives of BRICS economies such as BIMSTEC, EAEU, the ASEAN-China free trade agreement, Mercosur and SADC/SACU.”

Pepe concludes by tying in the Rolling Stones current tour and its songs to the geopolitical situation. Yes, under my thumb it's a gas, gas, gas, gas!!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 19:10 utc | 39

Thanks very much, karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 18:04 utc | 16. Three brief but interesting speech elements!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 22 2022 19:17 utc | 40

@melenkov, #25

Yeah I did say "sorta like Bill Clinton", and I stand behind it for complete accuracy. Bill Clinton is exactly as you describe him, but from all accounts he's great company over a beer. Sorta--a good flexible word.

Story from a union activist here who met with some Arkansas AFL-CIO locals back in '90 or so, when Clinton was doing the preliminary campaigning for Prez. Arkansas boys all said: "Bill Clinton was always good for Bill Clinton, but not any good any ever for the Arkansas Democratic Party". Same always been true for Bill his entire life in anything he ever did, seems to me.

Posted by: Daniel N. White | Jun 22 2022 19:23 utc | 41

@Posted by: Roger | Jun 22 2022 19:06 utc | 37

I forgot Greece, PPP GDP per capita in 2020: US$17,131, BELOW that of China.

Greece GINI coefficient 2019: 33.1.

Unlike the theories of the autistic medieval metaphysics that passes itself off as mainstream "economics", traditional political economy includes the reality of power relationships. In 1979 the Fed raised interest rates to ridiculous levels not just to reduce labour costs, but to destroy labour power. In parallel, Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controller unionized staff and green lighted union busting to employers. Same in the UK with very high interest rates and an attack on labour power culminating in the destruction fo the miners union.

After that period, the relationship between productivity gains and wages completely broke down, as the employers used their increased power to take all the gains and not share them, as was done in the post-WW2 "miracle" years.

The high interest rates also greatly raised the price of the dollar, facilitating the destruction of US and UK manufacturing industry, which in the end required the Plaza Accord to get the US$ rate back down to reasonable levels.

Posted by: Roger | Jun 22 2022 19:26 utc | 42

@ Daniel N. White | Jun 22 2022 19:23 utc | 40

Well, if I'm going to be sweet-talked with malevolent lies over a beer, the sweet-talker had better be HOT! And, not being Monica Lewinsky, I can't say that Slick Willie fills the bill, or for that matter the malenkov. ;-)

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2022 19:36 utc | 43

Ursula von der Leyen has to be one of the most incompetent idiots in the EU, and the competition is extremely stiff. Her latest prognostication: the European Commission "acknowledges the immense progress that 🇺🇦 democracy has achieved since the Maidan protests of 2014". Let's catalog some of this "progress", in no particular order:

* banning of all opposition political parties and prosecution of political opponents
* banning of all opposition media and nationalization of the remaining media
* banning of books, music and education in the primary language spoken by a majority of its population (for centuries) or produced by ethnic Russians (who also represent about half of the population)
* expulsion of the Russian Orthodox Church, to which a majority of Ukrainians belonged
* glorification of anti-democratic ultra-nationalists
* refusal to honor the only plebiscites/referendums ever held in Ukraine
* forced conscription into military service and forced transfer to the front, without weapons, training or command, of millions of men
* abject refusal to honor any commitments made during presidential and legislative campaigns
* massive and pervasive corruption, including (a) officials selling food and military "aid" to enrich themselves; and (b) refusing to report on military casualties so that no death benefits will need to be paid to the deceased's family and the salary payments made to the deceased (while meager, there's a lot of them) can be pocketed by corrupt officials
* wide deployment of death and terror squads, including kidnapping, torture and murder of journalists and citizens
* seizure of property and revocation of citizenship of those opposed to the ruling party
* denial of welfare and other benefits to millions of citizens based on their location in areas which opposed the coup and the new rulers
* complete domination of politics by foreign powers
* etc., etc., etc.

One is hard pressed to find a less democratic country in the world, perhaps Saudi Arabia and North Korea but even those aren't a given.

Not without some irony, the EC itself is an anti-democratic, oligarchic institution.

Posted by: CalDre | Jun 22 2022 19:39 utc | 44

The only zone decolonization is urgently needed is in the collective West. I wonder who would liberate the sheepish Western populace from the grip of their Dracula rulers.

Posted by: Steve | Jun 22 2022 19:41 utc | 45

These evil psychopaths just want to steal all of Russia's resources. If they could kill everyone in Russia with a virus - they probably would do it. They go insane with rage that they cannot steal Russia's oil, gas, gold, platinum, titanium, water, food, land and more.

Who was behind Covid? Sure looks like USA deep state agents, Ukraine biolabs and the World Economic Forum politicians.

Posted by: Tomo | Jun 22 2022 19:50 utc | 46

@Posted by: Paco | Jun 22 2022 17:52 utc | 7

Seen at Telegram....

Chaos currently in the Italian parliament where members of the governing coalition have gone to the center of the hemicicle with plackards calling for to stop arming Ukraine and no more arms for Zelensky, while self appointed Davos autocrat Dragui says the flow of weapons to Ukraine must continue...

It is clear that the energy prices are doing its due part to crush EU governments.

Today also an elder in the region of Spain where a mountainous zone have burnt down, expressed his disconformity with Sánchez management, Sanchez said things will be fixed, then the elder stated in his face, very grosly, what was he going to fix, doubting the guy is able to fix anything at all...since what he has done so far is impoverishing Spanish people and enslave them to the globalist agenda in Davos.....

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Jun 22 2022 19:53 utc | 47

There is zero possibility of a 66 veto-proof Republican majority in the US Senate after this year's election. Even if Republicans take all the Democrats' seats up for election (virtually impossible) and lose none of their own seats, they will still only have a 64 majority.

Which means, among other things, that for Biden and/or Harris to be removed via impeachment, some Senate Democrats will have to vote to impeach. Which I would not rule out happening.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 22 2022 19:55 utc | 48

Opport Knocks | Jun 22 2022 18:29 utc | 26

And that's exactly what the Russian Allied Forces are doing. ... They are Freeing Ukraine.

Posted by: Robert | Jun 22 2022 19:59 utc | 49

Posted by: CalDre | Jun 22 2022 19:39 utc | 43

The DPRK has 1.5 more political parties in its chambers than the US of A does.

Just sayin'... ;)

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 22 2022 20:01 utc | 50

If Republicans take the House after this year's election, which seems close to certain, they could make Trump the new Speaker of the House, which would put him third in line for the presidency, after Biden and Harris. There is no legal requirement for a Speaker to be a member of the House.

And, if Trump became president next year through a double impeachment, the months he would be president in such an abbreviated term would not count against the two-term limit. He could still be elected to a full term starting in 2024.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 22 2022 20:03 utc | 51

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 22 2022 17:59 utc | 12

LOL! Do you not know how the government resolved Evergrande's bankruptcy last year without a "bail out" from the PBOC? Boosting ordinary HH buyers' claims to the developer's assets to the top of the creditors' line by automatically converting their purchase money into title to Evergrande's many unfinished RE properties.

Leaving many international bond speculators accustomed to westworld liquidity treatment gnawing their paws.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 20:06 utc | 52

The language of "decolonization" and "liberation" was as much a language of "colonization" the first time around as it apparently is now.

After all, the Western powers could claim that they were liberating India from the Mughals/Marathas, China from the Manchus, and West Africans from various local empires (e.g. the Sokoto Caliphate), with the last coupled with the language of abolishing slavery. There were plenty of well meaning doops who went along with these programs believing in the rhetoric back then, too, but they were back in Europe, not on the scene, where most people knew what was going on.

Posted by: hk | Jun 22 2022 20:09 utc | 53

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 22 2022 20:03 utc | 50

This a copypaste repost.

Makes one think you're campaigning.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 22 2022 20:17 utc | 54

The decolonization proposal is a strong reassertion of a 1990s strategic concept. Might it be a sign of a faction fight within NATO? I'm reminded of the fairly nutty, but fun, Lira video from several weeks ago in which, to gauge the current NATO mindset, he invites us to imagine ourselves speeding along in a Maserati with a snootfull of coke and, as the police sirens wail, hitting the gas. Are the Kaganites proposing to do the same, against [faction name?}ites who want to get on the off ramp?

Posted by: dadooronron | Jun 22 2022 20:21 utc | 55

Evil people eventually reveal their true intentions. 'B's summary of the decolonization of Russia is correct.

1. This is authentic, it is a .gov domain. I wonder when they will remove it and claim this is Russian disinfo.

2. "Its aggression also is catalyzing a long-overdue conversation about Russia’s interior empire, given Moscow’s dominion over many indigenous non-Russian nations"
This is about breaking Russia up into smaller pieces. Is there another way to interpret this direct quote?

3. The list of Russia's 'Barbaric wars', Ukraine, Syria, Chechnya, Georgia ...
Ukraine - arguably aggression but 100% B.S. reporting on the conduct.
Syria - total lies, Chechnya - that was a brutal conflict, Georgia - brutal? That was a very limited military conflict.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 22 2022 20:21 utc | 56

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 20:06 utc | 51

Does this mean, "in Christian", that the government ruled that people who put money down for a house to live in, had to be serviced before anybody else?

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 22 2022 20:21 utc | 57

Actual strategic effect require the US to stop China from trade with the rest of the world

That's worrying. Now I'm going to try to find something I wear or use (besides vehicles) not made in China. . .Well, a lot of people are living in their vehicles now and perhaps not able to buy anything so they're off the hook.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 20:21 utc | 58

"gas prices have gone thru the roof since russia invaded ukraine! why don't putin and trump just get married and just get it over with?"

overheard an hour ago among actual US working class members standing in line to get some TP and dish soap and razors handed out to them by one of the innumerable tax deductible "charities" doing the Lard's work of keeping capitalism afloat by paying their staff minimum wage to hand out garbage masquerading as hygiene and personal care products to the human refuse that is the US population. now with fewer tampons.

the us working class is not leading anyone to anything except fighting for scraps in the national trash heap.

anybody saying otherwise knows nothing about the US working class. they know stuff they read in books.

there's no "decolonizing" the US. to quote Monty Python, we'll be lucky to get away with crucifixion. there's decay, collapse and death. any prospect beyond that is the imagination of people spitting into the unavoidable darkness, mere fantasies and wish fulfillment. and please don't tell me about some strike going on. i read the wsws daily. wow. spartacus wants an 8 hour work day.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 20:31 utc | 59

Seen at Russian FM Telegram chanel, Sergey Ryabkov, Russian deputy FM, is offering waht seems to me a great deal, offering protection to any nation who is allied with Russia...

Being a civilizational state, a great Eurasian and European-Pacific power, Russia is ready for any scenario in the international arena. We will be able to guarantee security and national interests, as well as the protection of our allies against any threat and challenge.

Sounds quite more credible than US and NATO promises...if not because they have already showed their integrity in various world scenarios, like Syria or some African nations...

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Jun 22 2022 20:32 utc | 60

@ John Day | Jun 22 2022 17:14 utc | 3

Excellent stuff.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 22 2022 20:35 utc | 61

Don Bacon @57--

What a sight it would be to see China's very new, very modern Blue Water Navy protecting its trade routes versus the very old, somewhat decrepit, USN with its rather shaky crews trying to interdict.

My advice to Outlaw US Empire policy makers who worry about China trading with the world is to commit suicide so their worries will be solved as they no longer have to think or worry about anything.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 20:39 utc | 62

For Surferket: I live in Mexico and I promise you lots of Mexicans have 2 or more homes, and probably nicer than the second in China. I've lived out here in a rented house outside of San Miguel, in the campo, in a mixed area, and all around me are fairly lavish weekend homes where Mexicans only come for parties if that. Mexicans believe in real estate investment not banks.

Posted by: christine | Jun 22 2022 20:40 utc | 63

rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 20:31 utc | 58
such reckless cynicism in one so young...

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 20:41 utc | 64

I am in favor of the total and permanent destruction of the US and the UK.

Posted by: Nico | Jun 22 2022 20:44 utc | 65

anybody saying otherwise knows nothing about the US working class. they know stuff they read in books. [snip]

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 20:31 utc | 58As "Ian Shoales" (pseudonym of comedian Merle Kessler) said about communism way back in 1988: "Workers and students just don't get along. It's taken us awhile to figure this out. Communism doesn't work, but its death throes are mind-boggling."

I too read WSWS daily, and I cherish the way it decries the ills of capitalist exploitation (and the hardly insignificant role of unions in perpetuating that exploitation). But the solution -- worker solidarity, let alone under the banner of the Fourth International, is virtually impossible without some eggheads egging the workers on -- good luck with that -- and the very notion is profoundly unnatural, because us-vs.-them thought is hard-wired, most likely instinctively, in the human brain. (Note that I do NOT believe that "natural" necessarily equates with "good"; in this case it certainly does not.) There was some hope in the Joe Hill and Eugene V. Debs days, but authoritarian means of thought control have become vastly more sophisticated and effective since then. And international worker solidarity? That died in 1914.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2022 20:52 utc | 66

Lysias | Jun 22 2022 20:03 utc | 50

Really like the idea!


rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 20:31 utc | 58

I actually find the profound and original humour of that Trump-Putin remark very inspiring!

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jun 22 2022 20:53 utc | 67

@ karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 20:39 utc | 61
old, somewhat decrepit, USN with its rather shaky crews
Yes. It's a long trip across the Pacific to meddle in affairs best left alone, and it has its effects.
mil-news headlines
>The Navy is rusting away thanks to a crushing deployment cycle . .photos of rust-buckets here
>. . . and Navy sailors aren't happy either

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 21:07 utc | 68

The junta sent out Biden to do some more “ tough guy” rants to try to compensate for the humiliating and possibly regime ending fall into the dirt. As he flopped around on the ground looking like a retard in that bicycle helmet it has now become impossible for even the “ low information voters” to take him seriously. Many democrats will now vote to impeach him “ for the good of the nation” (to try and stay in power with a new slate in 2024)

Posted by: Bobolinski | Jun 22 2022 21:08 utc | 69

There's this thing about liars: They can't keep their stories straight.

U.S. NSC Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby chokes on mendacity heaped on calumny, imagines the world is not listening.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 21:08 utc | 70

Been examining the links Escobar provided in his essay. This short essay, "BRICS+: It’s Back With Scale and Ambition" was written on June 10 so it can be compared with current happenings:

One of the novelties of China’s BRICS chairmanship in 2022 has been the launching of the extended BRICS+ meeting at the level of Ministers of Foreign Affairs that apart from the core BRICS countries also included representatives from Egypt, Nigeria, Senegal in Africa, Argentina from Latin America, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Thailand. And while the inclusion of Saudi Arabia and Indonesia may reflect their role in the G20 and overall size of their economies in the developing world, the inclusion of countries such as Senegal (chairmanship in the African Union in 2022), United Arab Emirates (chairmanship in the Gulf Cooperation Council in 2022) and Argentina (chairmanship in CELAC in 2022) is suggestive of a regional approach to building the BRICS+ platform.

That regional approach was also evidenced in the Forum of political parties, think-tanks and NGOs that was held on May 19th in BRICS+ format - among the countries invited to participate were Cambodia (chairmanship in ASEAN in 2022) as well as Senegal and Argentina that represented Africa and Latin America respectively. In effect China thus presented an inclusive format for dialogue spanning all the main regions of the Global South via aggregating the regional integration platforms in Eurasia, Africa and Latin America. Going forward this format may be further expanded to include other regional integration blocks from Eurasia, such as the GCC, EAEU and others.

During the meeting of foreign ministers of BRICS countries China also announced plans to open up the possibility of developing countries joining the core BRICS grouping. This approach differed to some degree from the line pursued by BRICS in the preceding years, when any expansion outside of the BRICS core was deemed to be the purview of the BRICS+ format. It remains to be seen whether the expansion in the core BRICS grouping is going to be supported by other members, but at this stage it appears unlikely that a speedy accession of any single developing economy is likely in the near term.

In this respect the inclusion of several countries into the “core BRICS” group may be fraught with risks of imbalances and asymmetries in terms of the representation of the main regions of the developing world in the core BRICS grouping. There is also the risk of greater complexity in arriving at a consensus with a wider circle of core BRICS members. While the option of joining the core should be kept open, there need to be clear and transparent criteria for the “BRICS accession process”.

Another issue relevant to the evolution of the BRICS+ framework is whether there should be a prioritization of the accession to the BRICS core of those developing economies that are members of the G20 grouping. In my view the G20 track for BRICS is a problematic one – the priorities of the Global South could get weakened and diluted within the broader G20 framework. There is also the question about the efficacy of G20 in coordinating the joint efforts of developing and developed economies in the past several years in overcoming the effects of the pandemic and the economic downturn. Rather than the goal of bringing the largest heavyweights into the core BRICS bloc from the G20 a more promising venue is the greater inclusivity of BRICS via the BRICS+ framework that allows smaller economies that are the regional partners of BRICS to have a say in the new global governance framework.

The next stage in the BRICS+ sequel is to be presented by China in June during the summit of BRICS+ countries. The world will be closely gauging further developments in the evolution of the BRICS+ format, but the most important result of China’s chairmanship in BRICS this year is that BRICS+ is squarely back on the agenda of global governance. The vitality in BRICS development will depend to a major degree on the success of the BRICS+ enterprise – an inert, introvert BRICS has neither global capacity, nor global mission. A stronger, more inclusive and open BRICS has the potential to become the basis for a new system of global governance.

This article from today at infobrics, "It is Urgent for BRICS to Push for Fairer, Safer Global Financial System", provides the fundamental rationale for the pursuit of a new trading system. Here's the meat:

It should be pointed out that the purpose of establishing the BRICS was never aimed at forming a small clique targeting other parties. The reason why BRICS countries came together is because of a common need to address the injustice and unfairness in the existing international economic, financial and trade systems and to seek reform and adjustment in the global economic order to address the legitimate concerns of developing countries.

The New Development Bank (NDB), also known as the BRICS Bank, is an important trial by the BRICS member countries to promote not only intra-bloc cooperation but also fairness in the international financial governance, even though, the NDB has had its share of challenges, like its payment mechanism being subject to the US' dollar hegemony.

Indeed, the financial implications of US sanctions have increased the urgency of de-dollarization around the world. It is not just the BRICS, but also many other developing economies that realize the needs to reduce the role of the dollar in global payments. In bilateral settings, discussions about exploring new currencies for trade settlement are becoming increasingly popular and common, an indication that the US' abuse of its financial power has fueled the trend for de-dollarization.

I believe we'll see the convening of an international conference somewhere around the UNGA Debates in September whose aim will be to solve this problem where I expect all NATO nations to be excluded. And that's only three months away.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 21:11 utc | 71

This scheme from CSCE to break up Russia has deeper layers. I view this as an attempt to bribe China, by - essentially - giving it all of NorthEast Asia.

The new "Republics" East of the Urals would each be about as powerful - militarily, economically, and politically - as Nunavut, and would be completely open to Chinese influence and eventual (real) colonization. China wants - needs? - land. As Earth's industrial powerhouse, it needs huge supplies of mineral resources. As the most populous country, it needs land for agriculture, as well as just more space for it's people to live. (Re)claiming Taiwan would only make these long-term problems worse.

Check out the long border between China & Russia on Google (or whatever) Maps. On the South side of the Amur River, China has built a dense net of farmlands, dotted with towns that all look very new (and "centrally planned"). On the North side of the river... there are some farms, and some towns, but compared to the Chinese side, it's almost empty.

Another example: a new bridge over the Amur river, connecting Heihe & Blagoveshchensk. On the Chinese side, you'll see a shine new 12-lane highway; on the Russian side, a lumpy 2-lane road which is paved, but obviously not well-engineered (road looks wobbly, just East of the bridge). China is building (has built?) a new Amusement Park on the waterfront, with Roller Coaster & big London-style Ferris Wheel, where people can look across the river at... a bunch of aging Soviet Block apartment buildings.

China has the economic power - and the political will - to develop Siberia. (Note that China doesn't have to annex those imaginary Republics to do this, but Chinese money and/or immigrants would quickly dominate any "independent" governments installed there).

The deeper messages of the CSCE piece are these:

(1) - to China: play nice, and you can have Siberia!
(2) - to Russia: play nice, or we'll let China have Siberia.

In both cases, "play nice" means "stay inside the "Global Financial Regime".

I don't think China will go for the bait, but this "proposal" could strain relations between it & Russia. They will need to have some tough negotiations about how to manage (inevitable) Chinese investment in NE Asia.

CSCE is not the kind of organization that invents big ideas like this, but they are the perfect front for announcing this. I'm guessing that this was brainstormed - and gamed out - in some Think Tank which is under more direct control of NeoCon money.

Posted by: elkern | Jun 22 2022 21:11 utc | 72

West Africans from various local [?] empires (e.g. the Sokoto Caliphate)
Posted by: hk | Jun 22 2022 20:09 utc | 52

I detect a "geostrategic" gap in your knowledge of European imperial history between 1600 CE and 1948 CE.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 21:16 utc | 73

The current U.S. aim may well be to decolonize Russia, but its real geopolitical aim is a re-colonization of China.

But that would have been much more efficient if they'd just made peace with Russia, invited them into the broader Western alliance where they'd have preferred to be with Europe. Isolating Russia so they have to turn to China into a kind of super long-term planning authoritarian geopolitical entity is the worst possible outcome in terms of containing China.

The aggression towards Russia, mediated through Ukraine took a huge jump when they intervened in Syria to contain the utter insanity of the neocon and Israeli plan to just utterly wreck the country.

It was just myopic obsession with the Levant, combined with the deep atavistic hatred of Ukrainians and Russians among the neocons that led them to this suicidal course of action. Their prime interest in Israel is best achieved by the US as a military hyperpower and this new Cold War is how the US will cease to be one given that Russia is on China's side now.

It's simply impossible to comprehend what the rational endgame was here. So long as Russia is armed with nukes you can't ever finish them off, that's the point. You'll just end up cornering them, provoking a response you won't be willing to deploy your own military to defeat and push them into China's arms (While waking the Chinese up to the new level of threat against them) to start a Cold War you can't win. You need either a time machine to go back 25 years and stop China being given most favourable trade status with the US or Russia to contain China. Forcing Russia to take sides and starting a new Cold War is the way you lose.

Posted by: Altai | Jun 22 2022 21:26 utc | 74

@ sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 21:08 utc | 69
U.S. NSC Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby chokes . .

Admiral Kirby has been in public affairs his whole career and so he excels at double-talk.
According to wiki, Kirby has been awarded the Navy Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Meritorious Service Medal (four awards), Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal (four awards), and Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal, as well as various campaign and service awards.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 21:28 utc | 75

Don Bacon @67--

We used to drive past the Ghost Fleet of Liberty Ships, submarines and other "mothballed" vessels in Suisun Bay every Summer during the 1960s on the way to the coast, and they were always well maintained. Nowadays, there aren't many of those ships remaining, but they still look better than those in the pic you linked.

As for the modern navy's sailors, my Step-Grandpa who captained a tin can in the Pacific during WW2 in several major fleet actions would roll over in his grave given their "quality." Here's what the Heritage Foundation had to say about the USN in its annual survey:

Navy as “Marginal,” Trending Toward “Weak.” The Navy’s overall score remains “marginal” in the 2022 Index but is trending toward “weak” in capability and readiness and remains “weak” in capacity. The technology gap between the Navy and its peer competitors is narrowing in favor of competitors, and the Navy’s ships are aging faster than they are being replaced. The Navy sustained its focus on improving readiness in 2021, but it has a very large hole to fill, its fleet is too small relative to workload, and supporting shipyards are overwhelmed by the amount of repair work that is needed to make more ships available. Funding to improve any of these serious deficiencies remains problematic.

"Marginal trending toward weak." We could get that sort of result spending 1/10 of what's budgeted. Can't wait for the next Taiwan Strait challenge.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 21:32 utc | 76

@ Altai | Jun 22 2022 21:26 utc | 73
It's simply impossible to comprehend what the rational endgame was here

There is no "end-game," rather there is a continuing need for the US security state for financial reasons to maintain a huge military force backed by a huge spending budget, conducting military operations here and there, but most importantly sending mucho dollars to corporations, politicians and foreign countries.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 21:35 utc | 77

Posted by: elkern | Jun 22 2022 21:11 utc | 71

Very interesting info and your take on it. Thanks.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 22 2022 21:39 utc | 78

@sln2002 (72)

Perhaps I should have been clearer that I was referring specifically to what would eventually become Nigeria? Given that "Nigerians" as a concept certainly did not exist in 19th century, it seemed unseemly to refer to them as such, although it does sidestep the vast swaths of French colonial empire surrounding it.

Posted by: hk | Jun 22 2022 21:42 utc | 79

Scotch Bingeington | Jun 22 2022 20:53 utc | 66
if we could talk about Trump and Putin's Big Gay Wedding rather than how many tanks the rooskies blew up, i'd be all for it. elton john could play for their reception (he did the same for that blimp Limbaugh, so he can do likewise for peace).

but A LOT of people at MoA would be superpissed. can't have that. plus pope francis and the moscow byzantine patriarchy would have to overcome millenia of brotherly hate and join Legions to condemn such peacemaking as thoroughly unchristian, and they aren't going to get together on anything long enough to do that. cuz who knows where it might lead if the godfathers stopped fighting, for whatever reason?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 21:42 utc | 80

Posted by: Hoarsewhlsperer | Jun 22 2022 18:03 utc | 15

But you can't just stop there. The USA must be broken up into five or more new (ideally mutually antagonistic) states.

Agitate NOW for the state of your choice - Western Mexican/American Seaboard, Big Empty Middle Country, Eastern Fascist Conglomerate, Southern Redneck Land, North Anglo Canadian Confederacy etc. etc.

Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Jun 22 2022 21:44 utc | 81

Bobolinski | Jun 22 2022 21:08 utc | 68
a senior citizen having an accident on a bicycle means WHAT again?

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 21:45 utc | 82

So, what does decolonization mean?

Posted by: Nico | Jun 22 2022 21:46 utc | 83

Posted by b on June 22, 2022 at 16:55 UTC

"The current U.S. aim may well be to decolonize Russia, but its real geopolitical aim is a re-colonization of China."

Even after reading again and going through comments I really don't understand what the above sentence is saying. What is 'decolonize' Russia? This one I have no clue about.

What is 're-colonization of China?" Is the latter suggesting that the West wants to turn China into a colony of the West again? If so, I don't know why that is coming up as a possibility from the article.

Lost in language....

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 22 2022 21:46 utc | 84

Ukraine will need a 'Marshall Plan' for reconstruction

He referred to the Marshall Plan, a US-funded USD-denominated loan program that helped rebuild Western Europe buy Made in America after WWII, as a role finance model for rebuilding Ukraine bankruptcy.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 21:48 utc | 85

If it merely means, breaking Russia up into peaces, H. Clinton said something like that many years ago, although she later denied it. She said something like that Russia is too big for so few people and that needs to be fixed.

Posted by: Nico | Jun 22 2022 21:48 utc | 86

On that NYT piece: 'Western Move to Choke Russia’s Oil Exports Boomerangs, for Now':

Like almost all NYT articles on Ukraine, this one has forbidden comments. Both the Times and the Post have reverted to stacking these articles headed by a link in red called 'live'. None of these these stacks has comments enabled. No alternative views welcomed.

Posted by: Bart Hansen | Jun 22 2022 21:49 utc | 87

@ 75
The US Navy wasted a whole decade building bad ships, like the DD1000 destroyer which they couldn't find a weapon for so they only built three of them, also the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) which became the Little Crappy Ship before they built several dozen and their hulls started cracking because they were built to civilian standards. Now the Navy plans to scrap 48 ships including all 22 remaining cruisers in the next four years.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 21:55 utc | 88

Looks like I'll need to update my name for the USA to Deluded Outlaw US Empire to match reality.

Meanwhile, one of the reasons why the DOUSE will never catch China is China's progress on its space solar power station, a project envisioned by DOUSE in 1968 but will never be made by it given its rapidly receding abilities. The linked article celebrates the project's latest achievement that renders it three years ahead of schedule.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 22 2022 21:57 utc | 89


“ accident on bicycle”

It was no accident. It was a sabotage, another signal to the Democrats in Congress, similar to the recent media stories one of which flatly called him” too old to run”. They are preparing for his removal. They made him look weak and hopelessly senile.( not hard because he is)

Posted by: Bobolinski | Jun 22 2022 22:11 utc | 90

re: Re-colonize China
I take it that b meant colonizing China by controlling it, not by sending the Marines over again to violate 'an inch' of China. The US in many ways is treating China as a US colony and the number of those ways in increasing. As China gets stronger, so does the US against China. That includes converting Japan from a peaceful country to an active anti-China country, along with other US puppets S. Korea and Australia, and now maybe New Zealand. Also included is becoming more supportive of Taiwan, which is a slam against China. Then there are the illegal commercial controls, but in a rules-based manner of course. /s

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 22:12 utc | 91

@ sln2002 | Jun 22 2022 21:08 utc | 69

There's this thing about liars: They can't keep their stories straight.
Actually, a good liar can keep his stories straight. But he would need to have a certain degree of memory and intelligence -- oh, and sanity; everyone who's met a sociopath knows that they hardly care to make their stories plausible anyway. Need I say more?

@ rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 21:45 utc | 81

a senior citizen having an accident on a bicycle means WHAT again?
Well, it could mean that he's too old for bicycles and should consider engaging in activities suitable to his condition. Bingo! Dinner will be served at 5 pm, but feel free to get to the dining room at 3:30. Missing out on the instant mashed potatoes would be such a shame.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 22 2022 22:13 utc | 92

re: bicycle accident
Apparently Biden had a problem with a bicycle toe clip, which may have been new to him, no big deal

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 22:15 utc | 93

In order to put its plans for China's re-colonisation into effect the Empire has to break up its western bulwark the Russian alliance. And the best way to do this is to break up Russia on ethnic bases-divide and conquer. This has been behind the Ukraine operations, as it was behind the Chechen 'uprising'. Russia is a multinational state. It is always possible to break up such states by setting the various communities against one another.
You understand this very well: it is the old British imperial way: rule Sri Lanka by setting tamils against sinhalese and muslims against both; rule Malaya by dividing the Chinese from the Malays; rule India by setting the Muslims against the Hindus etc; rule Palestine by setting the Jewish immigrants against the Arab people...the list is as long as the Commonwealth of Nations. It end up with Scots vs English, Irish vs British and so on.
And no originality in the US plans for China either: working with the Turks to revive Turkic feelings against Han; revive the long dead duck of Tibetan particularism, spark up the Uighurs... and we are just beginning. In the work of making people hate each other the Americans excel, because it is their primary emotion-hatred of the indigenous, the black, the Mexican, the Chinese, the Japanese, etc
And that is the plan of the neo-cons for not just China but the world: Divide and Rule. Govern by nourishing hatreds and emnity.
Hitler learned all about lebensraum from the novels of Karl Mai. The Nuremberg laws were based on the statutes of the state of Virginia with a bit of South Carolina thrown in.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 22 2022 22:16 utc | 94

Actually the miserable Jews excel at hating everybody. I think Sarah Silverman made this part of her revolting comedy schtik.

Posted by: Bobolinski | Jun 22 2022 22:24 utc | 95

The West has bitten off one of the hands that has kept them warm and fed them.

There's no one else to rob.

The resources that go into subjugating a country are not there.

Time for Russia & Iran to evict the US corporate pirates from Syria.

Posted by: WTFUD | Jun 22 2022 22:30 utc | 96

Bobolinski | Jun 22 2022 22:11 utc | 89
lol. you are good murkin jew-hating, dollar-loving, jesus-worshipping, death penalty for flag burning, kind of 30 weight, blond-haired, obese, old testament crustean in sweat pants, right?

well let me quote something to you:

"do not call a conspiracy everything that they call a conspiracy" somewhere in the book of Isaiah, i think.

the world is inhospitable to old people. it's not a conspiracy when an old fart, no matter how terrible he is, falls off a bicycle.

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 22:34 utc | 97

malenkov | Jun 22 2022 20:52 utc | 65
not the place to get into wsws but their stance on Ukraine caused a big change in my thinking about them. plus i was involved in the west coast educator's planning committee, re the coronavirus, until recently. no longer. they don't have any answers. i've long appreciated their journalism, over 20 years now, particularly that they don't hide where they are coming from or what they are aiming for. reading their articles is like watching Midsomer Murders: you know how it will end, each and every time, w/no exception. very, very comforting. fictional, pure fairy tale, but comforting.

for whatever my opinions matter, i never bought trotskyism, stalin already won that battle and doesn't seem to have ever lost on any marxist battlefield, i mean he's forever betraying the revolution with names like Pablo, Bolivar, Castro and esp Mao, I was never ever going to join the SEP, because I despise their rigid sectarianism (see every article they ever wrote on Cuba or VZ), which makes them no better than your average American cult. their favorite word is "betrayal." yawn. when i hear the words "stalinist betrayal" i reach for my...pistol-shaped beer bong.

some of their positions, esp re Ukraine, Cuba, vel sim, are actually quite useful for Western imperialism, very much so. and they really do simply want to run the capitalist machine more efficiently, gmo the whole planet and put nuclear reactors everywhere, such is there actual understanding of science, as opposed to their empty boasting about how scientific they are. b/c they are "worshippers of the machine" (TS Eliot.)

Posted by: rjb1.5 | Jun 22 2022 22:42 utc | 98


You lack a sense for political intrigue. The stakes are high. They will lose in Nov and if he runs in 2024. He is too arrogant and senile to back down gracefully. You seem to have quite a hatred for US and Brits BTW

Posted by: Bobolinski | Jun 22 2022 22:42 utc | 99

re: Jews who.. .whatever
Years ago, I had the pleasure of knowing Meyer Singer, a lawyer as a matter of fact, a neighbor, who was absolutely without question one of the finest gentlemen I've ever known, and a Jew.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 22 2022 22:48 utc | 100

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