Posted by: Daniel N. White | Jun 10 2022 16:06 utc | 26
“…~I read the Enquirer so you don’t have to.”
Thank you for your service.
Truly heroic

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2022 5:40 utc | 104

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2022 16:33 utc | 34
You’re no better than the Honorable Senator Joseph McCarthy crossed with Goebbels, but terrible at communicating in any language.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2022 5:53 utc | 106

waynorinorway@99
Your post is very true. In a battle of censorship the populace will always be the losers. Let the Nazis ban the popular front- when their followers see the truth for the first time it will amaze them. On our side supporters will understand that the truth always needs to be pursued further, refined and developed. There is always more to learn and the more diverse voices there are the closer we get to the core of things.
Inexperience is another kind of experience; lack of knowledge, an absence of folly and prejudice. …I am sure that it is all in Blake. And much better stated.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2022 6:52 utc | 108

PAKISTAN
Is it on anyone’s geopolitical bingo card?
The coop against Imran Khan seems to have been bloodless (so far).
But economic problems are only a rung above that of Sri Lanka…
Energy poverty … is this the future? Are we all closer to the precipice than we realise?
Some June 9-11 (911?) tweets from Singapore based Bloomberg correspondent Stephen Stapczynski @SStapczynski:
> Pakistan’s energy crisis is poised to get worse in July
Pakistan is struggling to secure enough LNG for early-July amid a global fuel shortage. For the 2nd time this month, Pakistan was forced to scrap an LNG spot purchase tender (the supplier’s offer was disqualified).
> Pakistan has failed to receive a single qualifying bid in two tenders seeking a July 3-4 delivery LNG cargo. This appears to be a combination of bad luck and general market tightness. There are few suppliers available to offer an early July shipment to South Asia.
> Meanwhile, Karachi (Pakistan’s business capital) is facing citywide planned blackouts. Power demand is surging due to the heat, and the utility isn’t able to generate enough electricity.
<<…Comment: Pakistan can't get gas shipped to them, they're about to have a bad time. > Surging energy prices and blackouts are a test for Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s administration, which came into power in April after a period of political upheaval.
Sharif had originally made Saturday a working day for public servants soon after being elected.
Other steps proposed by Pakistan include:
_Lunch, dinner & high-tea will no longer be served to officials
_Purchases of new vehicles for use by officials and appliances like air conditioners will be stopped.
_Government meetings held online to help avoid unnecessary travel.
<<…Comment…No Stephen. This band of crooks & money launderers didn’t come into power after political upheaval but because of US orchestrated regime change abetted by powerful internal stooges. These criminals do NOT represent majority Pakistanis anywhere in the world! << As for being ‘elected’, do tell us WHO voted for this criminal on bail now parading as PM of Pakistan? NO ONE! You’re reporting utter lies! He was installed through a US backed Vote of No Confidence so where the heck was he ELECTED from?! ———— @SStapczynski also following the ongoing debate in JAPAN around reactivating nuclear power.
>”The public today in general doesn’t see it as a positive thing to turn nuclear power online,” said Tanaka, [Shunichi Tanaka, former Japan Nuclear Regulation Authority] ..who led the regulator from 2012-2017. “The government needs to clear that hurdle”
Of 33 available reactors, only 10 have restarted under the authority’s rigorous protocols.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2022 7:15 utc | 110

Below is a Xinhuanet posting that speaks to members of the China/Russia axis going forward

YEREVAN, June 10 (Xinhua) — A session of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) kicked off in Yerevan on Friday.
The ministers discussed issues relating to international and regional security, and the strengthening of CSTO crisis response mechanisms, according to a statement on the website of the Armenian Foreign Ministry.
The session, attended by foreign ministers from the six CSTO member states – Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia and Tajikistan, was held both in a narrow format and in an extended format, the ministry said.
The foreign ministers signed the 2022-2024 consultation plan of the representatives of the CSTO member states on foreign policy, defense and security affairs, and issued a joint statement on international security.
“The statement on the international security reflects the position of the member states in the strong observation of the principle of equal and inseparable security and the impermissibility of strengthening a country’s security at the expense of others,” said Stanislav Zas, the CSTO secretary general, at a joint press conference after the session.
The foreign ministers also expressed their support to the strengthening of the leading role of the UN Security Council in the maintenance of peace and stability in the world, Zas added.

I know it is too much of me to ask them to also talk about alternative systems of finance but come on folks, get this new world out of the birth channel.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 11 2022 7:24 utc | 112

Posted by: David Levin | Jun 10 2022 23:40
he got published, he wasn’t suppressed. If you read something different, that’s wrong. It’s just that he was wrong. Judith Curry wasn’t suppressed, either. your arguments mirror those of creationists, the truth is being suppressed. no it isn’t it’s just that the few scientists that still question it cannot come up with an alternate theory. Lindzen tried–like all others, he failed. When fossil fuel companies funded the BEST study, they didn’t like the results–the scientists, recruited for being skeptics, confirmed the mainstream science. duh. that’s the same thing their own scientists told them back in the 70’s and 80’s. the ones they paid.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 11 2022 7:54 utc | 114

Climate change – IPCC
Everyone should also remember that IPCC is not a plain scientific body; rather it is as much a political one, controlled by an assembly of environment ministers. And it’s only mission is to demonstrate the accuracy of the anthropological climate change theory, not to increase the overall understanding of climate changes.

Posted by: Daniel | Jun 11 2022 9:03 utc | 116

I once again detect mostly ad hominems and very little substantive replies. Oh well…I always figured that communists could not hang with philosophy, although there truly are a few here I am sure who can appreciate what I am getting at. The rest…good luck with what is coming.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 11 2022 7:18 utc | 110
Getting called a Nazi is not an insult, getting called a Nazi is an apt descriptor when you parrot Nazi propaganda and officially-Nazi philosophy.
And particularly in your case, uncritically praising them for their Nazist and german-supremacist nature.
Let’s recall a few select statements from the archive:
“Hitler’s Germany for instance was inherently physical, moral”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 3 2022 3:02 utc | 185
“Russia playing the NSDAP role of liberating Europe from the forces of globalism, what Heidegger called the twin, metaphysical forces of the east and west.”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 6 2022 18:25 utc | 135
“Neither the west nor the east provided a sufficient mechanism for raising the historical Dasein of the German Volk. So while the “west” (financial capital) claimed they were the answer to the east, and vice-versa, Hitler correctly saw what Heidegger was able to articate more profoundly: they are twin metaphysical pillars of the same spirit-deadening force.”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 6 2022 19:12 utc | 152
Let’s forget for a moment that calling anything “inherently physical” amounts to saying nothing; that Heidegger purposefully penned useless unintelligible bullshit, and that Nazi Germany was a constitutive element of the western establishment of its time – until it noticed that its european cheerleaders had easier-to-grab “lebensraum” than those “slavic untermenschen”.
Let’s also forget that the current forces and positions you’re apparently “defending” would feel deeply insulted by your comparisons – I’d pay to see you telling Putin or Lavrov that their work is commendable because it reminds you of Hitlerian developments.
My point now is different.
My point now is that modern Nazists (like you) are record-breakers in pathetic hypocrisy.
You want to repeat Nazi talking points, but you don’t want to be called a Nazi.
You want to praise Hitler, but you don’t want to be called a Nazi.
You want to extoll the “virtues” of the Nazi party, but you don’t want to be called a Nazi.
This isn’t at all dissimilar to Azovites and other contemporary Nazist scum who want to have swastika tattoos, an SS banner, and Mein Kampf on the nightstand – but they’re not Nazis!
If I take the time of the day to type Stalinist propaganda – which sometimes I do – I’m not going to take exception and feign outrage at being called a Stalinist, a communist, etc.
This “wanting to have your cake and eat it too” is also a signature of a supremacist outlook, in which you consider yourself above consequences of your actions, think everybody else is below stupid, or both.
List of currently active and proven Nazi handles at MoA:
-NemesisCalling
-Scorpion
-Curmudgeon
-Huizinga9

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 11 2022 9:52 utc | 118

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2022 5:51 utc | 104

You, sir, are wasting good time and pixels

You may be entirely correct.
But if the choice is between a few wasted pixels and one wasted planet I am willing to forego a few pixels.
In addition, there is the issue of the character of b’s creation. What he offers to those who imbibe here is something both remarkable and precious. He gives to each of us the opportunity to discover where the truth lies.
Cheers!

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2022 11:06 utc | 120

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 10 2022 22:41 utc | 397
I responded to your comment in the old thread here:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/some-other-peoples-thoughts-on-the-us-ukraine-and-europe.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02a2eec73f96200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02a2eec73f96200d

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2022 11:12 utc | 122

“Wasted electricity? Can you please explain that…”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2022 15:41 utc | 17
That’s easy… say one lives in a northern climate & relies heavily on PV power. The declination of the sun in winter reduces solar power down to a greatly reduced % of optimal (i.e. full summer sun). So if power load remains constant year round, one would need more PVs to support the same load in winter than in summer. And in doing so, that would cause the PVs to generate MORE power than needed in summer. And if one is unable to that sell that excess back to grid, what does one do with it? Buy more batteries? Convert to another form of energy? I’m actually pursuing the answer to that question, as we speak…
PS – Carbon tax is nothing more than wealth extraction
“The people who rule you will always fabricate an invisible enemy like the war on terror[/drugs], the red scare, [climate change,] or the killer virus, because all those things are invisible. That means the enemy is everywhere and nowhere, all at once. An invisible enemy means you can neither confirm nor deny anything about the narrative… and that means you regress to [a state of child-like dependence], afraid of a fictitious boogeyman” – jason christoff

Posted by: ianMoone | Jun 11 2022 12:53 utc | 124

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 14:43 utc | 7
“As for why I would resist, it is so simple to answer:
1) The costs and impacts of the proposed climate change mitigation are absolutely enormous.
2) The negative effects will be entirely borne by the poorest parts of society and the world.
3) The imposition of climate requirements also conveniently cements the present economic world order…..”
to 3 I would add in ‘and any future new ‘global order’
“I have to say, I had thought you to be a relatively objective person but it is clear that you have climate derangement syndrome – including both blind faith in what you are told concerning the science and the unquestioning acceptance of the most ridiculous garbage told to you by those who you accept as co-secular religionists.
So be it.”
Many people have bought into the narrative which is, basically, that ‘we are doomed unless.’ The doomed part uses emotional intensity to fix belief. Once a belief is formed it is almost impossible to dissolve which all upper level influencers / propagandists presumably know forwards, backwards and sideways. Belief trumps fact every time albeit many espousing ‘fact’ cannot see that they are in fact simply exercising confirmation bias. Whenever someone tells you that what you believe is true, your belief is confirmed now as ‘fact.’
The anthropogenic theory is based on materialist view which posits a mechanical world which we interface with as mechanical biological entities having superior intelligence to any other known living creature and also having many great powers over nature which are evident in all sorts of basic ways – farming, gardening, urban infrastructure, airplanes, computer – undeniable powers. In our hubris we think that we can also effect and even control planetary climate. It’s a reasonable leap but it is far from proven.
Second: I spent only 50-100 hours reading up on it about 20 years ago and then moved on, but came to the conclusion that even if anthro climate change exists our instrumentation and methods do not provide sufficient data to measure it one way or another; therefore we cannot determine what its effects are if any, whether or not and the degree to which they are harmful or helpful let alone how to mitigate them.
Furthermore, the variables input into the models are sadly lacking. I read a few years ago that they didn’t include water (clouds etc) in most of the most widely published models, let alone the solar wind cycles affecting particulates in the atmosphere and so many other things. So the ‘science’ is woefully inadequate to put it mildly.
Third point: this is yet another one of those things where people have been persuaded to adopt an opinion about something they cannot verify for themselves (hence it’s a belief which is your ‘religiosity’) and which in turn they feel obliged to push onto others and even go so far as to start insulting those they cannot instantly persuade. This is the same dynamic that creates cults, btw, which contrary to popular belief are caused mainly by the adherents not the focal point which often is a particular leader but can also be an idea or ideology – like climate change. There is a quality of fearfulness mixed in with the arrogance perhaps because having any belief challenged is felt as threatening somehow, like being caught stealing from the cookie jar, or maybe having once sense of reality undermined is existentially threatening somehow.
Darwinian evolution theory is another similar bugaboo. It has never been proven, the theory clearly falls short in many ways – as Darwin himself predicted it probably would and for the reasons he spelled out as it happens (irreducible complexity for example) – and but for the religiosity of its adherents we would long ago have moved on.
And of course to this day there are many things from history which are believed true or false on the basis of which core attitudes are formed which influence decisions made today, often in quite unfortunate ways which prevent people from moving on from past distortions and being able to keep up with the ever-changing present in new and better ways.
Anyway, I have found all your contributions on this topic well expressed and look forward to watching these two youtubes even though, as mentioned earlier, I moved on from this topic years ago. I do touch in from time to time to see if there is any reason to change my overall position but I cannot recall any time in the past 20 years that anything new came up to make me consider shifting. Nada. The faithful always go on and on about ‘settled science’ and ‘oil industry money’ and so forth but there really isn’t much of a there there. It’s actually quite amazing.
And that sort of delusion is similar to that evidenced by the Empire of Lies honchos who seem to think they can beat Russia militarily on her borders (I still can’t accept that they do actually) or those who seem to believe that by no longer consuming Russian energy products they will isolate or collapse Russia somehow even though clearly India and China alone with almost 3 billion people can buy up any excess not to mention the Central Eurasians who are about to go through one of the biggest booms in world history I suspect as the ‘Central Island’ awakes. No brainer (and I also cannot believe that Western elites are too stupid to see this so keep casting around for malice-related explanations which are generally far too speculative).
Hmm… perhaps the climate change business and moving off petroleum etc is a nasty ploy to stop Eurasia from developing? Well, they lost the ability to control Asia once China got to the point where she was a self-sufficient world power able to go forward under her own steam. It happened about 20 years earlier than they predicted. In a way, that’s what Ukraine is all about: a belated attempt by the West to curtail China by crashing the world economy and preventing Central Eurasia from developing greatly, perhaps adding another billion or so in the next 20 years….

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 11 2022 13:37 utc | 126

https://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/biden-mental-fog-is-getting-worse/
Posted by: Daniel N. White | Jun 10 2022 16:06 utc | 26
Yup. I learned to respect the National Enquirer from Men in Black! Never looked back….
It’s a tough job, but somebody’s got to blow it!
Joe Tzu.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 11 2022 13:47 utc | 128

On the French legislative elections
La Presse talks about Mélenchon
https://www.lapresse.ca/international/europe/2022-06-11/elections-legislatives-en-france/une-campagne-amorphe-au-resultat-incertain.php
So what? Do many French voters live here? “An influx,” says the Globe and Mail from November 2021.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-an-influx-of-french-immigrants-to-quebec-highlights-a-cultural-shift/
(Maybe 150,000 – 200,000 in Quebec?)

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 11 2022 14:39 utc | 130

I think I should have posted this link before when I’ve posted about politics (and it’s sentiment echoes the comments of several others in this thread)
From satirical news outlet The Beaverton, “100 percent of liberal voters would vote NDP [Canadian left] if they thought it had a chance at winning.”
https://twitter.com/TheBeaverton/status/1428382593939124232
And there’s the challenge.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 11 2022 15:37 utc | 132

List of tired old garbage dump dwelling marxists who sleep with their worn out Das Kapital .
Arganthonios

Posted by: Bobolinski | Jun 11 2022 15:48 utc | 134

“Hitschler considers Büchel to be an ideal location”
That’s an actual quotation, Google English translation, from an article by Germany’s SWR. Not satire.
https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/trier/luftwaffe-will-alle-f-35-tarnkappenjets-in-rlp-stationieren-100.html

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 11 2022 16:13 utc | 136

Sushi | Jun 11 2022 1:31 utc | 83
What does the Chinese not squandering extremely expensive, and probably limited stocks of, missiles by firing at targets
at maximum ranges have anything to do with the combat range of the targets in question?
The point was that the longer a missile has to fly, regardless of speed, the greater the number of opportunities to interdict said missile. And it’s likely the Chinese don’t have sufficient stocks of hypersonics to fire enough to guarantee a hit on a single target at longer ranges.
Far more feasible are scenarios, in which the hypersonics will be used at closer range targets, where their faster time to target more than compensates for the lack of inventory, reducing the odds of interdiction and maximizes hit probabilities.

Posted by: JHW | Jun 11 2022 16:40 utc | 138

Sushi
So lange die USA die NATO Hyberschall nicht Abfangen kann, noch dazu das diese Lenkbar sind. So lange spielt die Flug-Zeit so gar keine Rolle !!

Posted by: max | Jun 11 2022 16:45 utc | 140

@Daniel | Jun 11 2022 9:03 utc | 115

Climate change – IPCC
Everyone should also remember that IPCC is not a plain scientific body; rather it is as much a political one, controlled by an assembly of environment ministers. And it’s only mission is to demonstrate the accuracy of the anthropological climate change theory, not to increase the overall understanding of climate changes.

Correct. IPCC = InterGOVERNMENTal Panel for Climate Change. It is a political construct, which pays the “scientists” to prove the preconceived conclusions provided by the politicians, ref. the “Summary for policy makers” which is BY the policymakers and the scientists are tasked to provide the arguments to support its conclusions.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2022 17:06 utc | 142

Did my standard Google search, this time “buchel germany” Clicked on the News tab and kept clicking until I arrived at this, which I post here for human interest:
https://buechel-online.com/en/buechel-group/
Büchel-Group, highest standards in Germany and Asia (manufacturer of bicycle parts and accessories)
“We were the first German medium-sized company to break new ground in China back in 1980. There, joint ventures with reliable partners enable us to continually expand our product range and implement new trends. In the meantime, we also produce parts for the automotive and consumer goods industry in addition to the technology around the bike.”

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 11 2022 17:17 utc | 144

Posted by: max | Jun 11 2022 16:45 utc | 139
Jawohl
Mein Punkt war, dass den US-Flugzeugen die Kampfreichweite fehlt, um eine Bedrohung darzustellen, wenn die US-Flugzeugträger 1.000 Seemeilen vor der Küste bleiben.
Um sie zu zwingen, Abstand zu halten, braucht China nicht eine einzige Hyperschallrakete, sondern nur das Gerücht von einer. Kein Americanski-Admiral wird seinen Befehl riskieren, um die Wahrheit herauszufinden.
Prost

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2022 17:39 utc | 146

You have to prove it wrong to be credible. If you have no evidence you have to choose the null hypothesis, anything else is religion.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2022 16:44 utc | 138
Ah, thanks, Norwegian! And in religion, there is the interesting fact that it has always been those considered to be ‘heretics’ (we didn’t use that term in my little church group) who gave early Orthodox theologians the opportunity to refine or at least solidify by analysis thoughts in harmony with the message of Scripture — quite beautifully in many instances. Without the message of those who weren’t in harmony with those texts, they might not have been able to do so. That maybe is the difference between religion and theology, in Orthodox terms. Not exactly science, but similar!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 11 2022 18:23 utc | 148

#Greece (#US) and #Iran
Greek court overturns ruling on US seizure of Iranian oil shipment following #Iran’s seizure of two ships flying a Greek flag.
8:03 AM · Jun 9, 2022·Twitter Web App
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Shipping is a huge industry for Greece, actually the only one for which Greece is widely known (there are also natural sponges, ouzo… but the big money is in shipping). The pricing is incredibly fickle, few weeks ago the prices shipowner get plunged, not they climb, in any case, Greeks rely on a genuine freedom of navigation, and sanctions that decrease the number of cargoes may hit them hard.
Given national interests, I suspect that the first ruling was given reluctantly, and overturning was a no-brainer both on law and national sentiment/interests. This further convinces me that Greeks and other shippers will provide “bottoms” to carry Russian oil to India and other destinations, and insurance ban will be circumvented.
As predicted, once sanction policy exceed a certain limit, resistance can become “viral”, and while Trumpian sanctions did not do the trick, to my dismay, Biden finally crossed the line of efficacy. “To boldly go where no one went before”.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 11 2022 18:32 utc | 150

leave it to Lavrov to have many of the good lines :):)
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1535202281691414528
Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: “We are still open to dialogue, but it takes two to tango, and so far our Western partners have been doing breakdancing, alone.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 11 2022 18:58 utc | 152

@ 149 Bruised Northener – It is irresponsible not to speculate. I do it all the time here. 😉
Wu Tang Clan – After Laughter

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 11 2022 19:23 utc | 154

well maybe there is some justice… in Latin America
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220611-bolivian-ex-president-anez-sentenced-to-10-years-in-prison-1
Bolivian ex-president Anez sentenced to 10 years in prison
“Bolivian ex-president Jeanine Anez was sentenced Friday to 10 years in prison, more than a year after her arrest for an alleged plot — dismissed as fictional by many — to oust her rival and predecessor Evo Morales.
Anez, who has been held in pre-trial detention since March 2021, has consistently denounced what she calls political persecution.
The former interim leader will serve 10 years in a women’s prison in La Paz, the administrative capital’s First Sentencing Court announced in a decision that comes three months after her trial began.
Convicted of crimes “contrary to the constitution and a dereliction of duties,” Anez was sentenced to “a punishment of 10 years” over accusations stemming from when she was a senator, before becoming president.
Prosecutors had asked for a 15-year jail sentence.
The former leader had already announced she would appeal if convicted, saying: “We will not stop there, we will go before the international justice system.”
Also sentenced to 10 years were the former head of the armed forces, William Kaliman, and the former head of the police, Yuri Calderon, both of whom are on the run.
Anez still faces a separate, pending court case for sedition and other charges related to her short presidential stint.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 11 2022 20:07 utc | 156

@ Arganthonios
I would have to say that you are indeed using the term Nazi as a loaded pejorative. So if I were to admit to being your understanding of the term, “Nazi,” I will have played right into your infantile ad hominem approach to dealing with unhappy thoughts.
I stand by everything I wrote. To Heidegger, and no doubt myself as well if I were transported to that moment in history in Germany, what was seen then was something approaching the “beyond” in the Nazi movement. It is what Heidegger noticed in 1933 and positioned himself within the University to welcome. However, as Heidegger made clear in the interview, “Only a God Can Save Us”, he quickly noticed that the Nazis were unable to make room in the collective German Dasein for questioning to truly be a transformative movement and not fall prey itself to technicity, more easily understood as an aspiritual approach to technology.
Now where I feel that academia must improve upon in the coming years, with regard to the history and mystery around the Nazi movement, has to do with the popular myth that the allies were the moral victors. Absolute hogwash. Firebombing, nuke releasing, mass raping, preemptive strikes, double-crossing, etc., etc. ad infinitum. There were three main belligerents in WW2 and they were all equally detestable in their organization and absolute slaves to their own technicity (please see the above linked essay if you want a better conception of technicity than what I can articulate).
If the moral ones of WW2 truly were victorious, why do we continually find ourselves at the precipice of an abyss that has at any moment the ability to wipe out billions of people off the earth? The answer is simple: we are in the grasp of a technicity that is not Apollonian nor Dionysian . Rather, it is the full negation of thought, of philosophy, itself. The world destroying force of technicity that the Nazis were pointing out, and, in their wrestling with during their meteoric rise to power eventually fell prey to themselves, is now our global master.
The fact that leftists here seek an even greater globalism to stop the antiscientific conception of AGW or climate change, speaks volumes about their great delusion and dovetails perfectly into what Heidegger makes clear in his essay.
I will say it again and again and again…in order for us to even begin the process of tackling this technicity and reopening our Dasein so that we may begin to question again the role of technology in our lives, we first need to give a fairer assessment of the Nazi movement.
Now if all of what I have written still makes me a Nazi, then I will THEN admit I am a Nazi.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 11 2022 20:58 utc | 158

Never trust a piano player who uses both hands to wave at the audience.
-Joe Tzu.
***
You can always find a plan if you use a good teleprompter.
-Joe Tzu.
****
*
JHW | Jun 11 2022 19:30 utc | 155
“All depends on whether Xi cares about what happens to China after he’s dead”. I doubt that he would still be able to.
Taiwan. It is more a question of not losing “Face”, as the expected outcome has already been tacitly “agreed” (by the Chinese). Taiwan is to be “reintegrated”, whether they want to or not. This was presumably what the Chinese were counting on. That the Taiwanese themselves would wave flags and accept such an outcome.
BUT, after the upset in Ukraine, where the Russians assumed the same sort of happy ending, and then had to change plans rapidly, may have given them food for thought.
It took eight years for a psychological control to be installed by NATO and Azov/Kiev in Ukieland. Taiwan has been under US influence for far longer. Note the US doesn’t care about the Taiwanese, just that they sit tight and fight.
****
Piotr Berman | Jun 11 2022 20:21 utc | 157
“A covey of Carriers”?
“A flurry of frigates”?
I am actually reading a book about “Thirty-two words for field”. by Manchàn Magan. All about the real Irish language. (a word for each type of field, and a change in the way “fields” are felt, or measured by their capability of supporting livestock, not area.) A Field for Corn grass, grown corn, for potatoes, Field for dancing, for fairies, playing fields, exercise fields for troops, a grassy plain. etc. Volunteers in Co. Mayo have collected 24’700 field names.
The English have only just started.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 11 2022 21:42 utc | 160

Daniel | Jun 11 2022 9:03 utc | 115
Climate change – IPCC
Everyone should also remember that IPCC is not a plain scientific body; rather it is as much a political one, controlled by an assembly of environment ministers. And it’s only mission is to demonstrate the accuracy of the anthropological climate change theory, not to increase the overall understanding of climate changes.
Correct. IPCC = InterGOVERNMENTal Panel for Climate Change. It is a political construct, which pays the “scientists” to prove the preconceived conclusions provided by the politicians, ref. the “Summary for policy makers” which is BY the policymakers and the scientists are tasked to provide the arguments to support its conclusions.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 11 2022 17:06 utc | 142
more horseshit, to the extent the IPCC as affected the science, it has minimized the extent of the dangers. cause money talks. guess where the money is.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 11 2022 21:46 utc | 162

Now if all of what I have written still makes me a Nazi, then I will THEN admit I am a Nazi.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 11 2022 20:58 utc | 158
As far as I’m concerned, it does.
Applying a faux-philosophical angle to it doesn’t detract from the content anymore than applying a faux-paganist angle does.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 11 2022 23:12 utc | 164

What next, “a bedlam of think-tankers”?
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 11 2022 20:21 utc | 157
***
Ha, I like that addition.
I propose “a Mahan of admirals” for the US Navy.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jun 12 2022 1:15 utc | 166

pretzelattack, Sorry to tell you: there is no avoiding death. Remember, death and taxes.
The point is that, as I said, WE don’t have control over climate, and the polluting governments, militaries and corporations. Bloviating about it on the internet is useless. Sometimes one has to remember that there is an actual world out there, beyond pixels, bits, and bytes.
Walking it would prove that you are actually alive [un-dead].
——
Don Bacon @102,
I applaud you for going for hikes, and observing the nature. What could be more fun?
I too go for long walks. My favorite hobby is to look for trees with bird nests, wondering what made that particular tree hospitable to birds. Very few and far in between in my neck of the woods.
—
Norwegian @141
I appreciate your thoughts on this. Agreed.
I haven’t even touched on religion or science on this.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 11 2022 23:19 utc | 165

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 12 2022 2:08 utc | 168

The point is that, as I said, WE don’t have control over climate, and the polluting governments, militaries and corporations. Bloviating about it on the internet is useless.
but to some extent we do, we can cut back on consumption and try to influence others to do so,and those who have far more, the giant fossil fuel corporations and the pentagon, are also hurling us toward premature death in other ways. and so we resist, instead of paralyzing ourselves with learned helplessness. and when people lie about climate science on the internet, or lie about the noble motives of the US in Ukraine, we can call them out on this fucking horseshit. that’s easier to do if we are not dead.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 12 2022 2:13 utc | 170

pretzelattack @170
I appreciate your enthusiasm. Perhaps it will wear off with a few more years behind you.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 12 2022 3:22 utc | 172

@various Bevin, c1iu, Tom etc
I recall when Al Gore did the movie inconvenient truth after “losing” the presidential campaign.
I was already sceptical about a millionaire vice president giving a shit about the climate. However the film made a big impact so I watched to see what would happen over time. Soon enough I noticed him spriuking corn as a bio fuel and making a motza out of his relevant investments.
You know you have a live one when he is selling the staple food of a continent as something to burn for energy.
There are definitely crooks on both “sides” of this idiotic climate debate.
And in neoliberal capitalism what grift does not involve getting the public divided over both sides of a “debate”?
hence I conclude we are being screwed every day till Sunday by the fossil fuel capitalists and by the Big Green washing capitalists
Any gardener or organic and even conventional farmer knows the earth is in trouble. Warming? cooling? who knows but at the level of human contribution we are a destructive, polluting, unaccountable species up to now and of course we are negatively effecting the planet.
You don’t need elaborate science to see this: Look at any polluted river, drought stricken cleared land, trees dying from a shrinking water table and over salination, massive random die offs of all kinds of creatures, birds and fish.
Polluting and dangerous Chemicals used in every way possible, accumulating in our water, earth and air.
Ask any indigenous culture whose knowing goes back centuries and more.
What we can do as humans is stop as much of the polluting as possible (gradually as necessary for people’s livlihoods) and stop subsiding the worst polluters to boot. First and foremost the US and Allied Military and MIC
Stop arguing over the negatives of renewables and put the money into researching non toxic renewable energy.
Comparing renewables to fossil fuel energy is a totally false equivalency for reasons that should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.

Posted by: K | Jun 12 2022 4:18 utc | 174

In the malice versus stupidity debate (viz why it seems the American elites are bent on bringing the country to collapse):
Exhibit X:
Now this… A Gateway Pundit reader sent us an updated list of US-based food manufacturing plants that were damaged from 2021 to 2022 under the Biden administration. These data were first published at Think Americana.
Below is the list of America’s 95 plants that have been destroyed, damaged or impacted by “accidental fires,” disease, or general causes.
1/11/21 A fire that destroyed 75,000-square-foot processing plant in Fayetteville
4/30/21 A fire ignited inside the Smithfield Foods pork processing plant in Monmouth, IL
7/25/21 Three-alarm fire at Kellogg plant in Memphis, 170 emergency personnel responded to the call
7/30/21 Firefighters on Friday battled a large fire at Tyson’s River Valley Ingredients plant in Hanceville, Alabama
8/23/21 Fire crews were called to the Patak Meat Production company on Ewing Road in Austell
9/13/21 A fire at the JBS beef plant in Grand Island, Neb., on Sunday night forced a halt to slaughter and fabrication lines
10/13/21 A five-alarm fire ripped through the Darigold butter production plant in Caldwell, ID
11/15/21 A woman is in custody following a fire at the Garrard County Food Pantry
11/29/21 A fire broke out around 5:30 p.m. at the Maid-Rite Steak Company meat processing plant
12/13/21 West Side food processing plant in San Antonio left with smoke damage after a fire
1/7/22 Damage to a poultry processing plant on Hamilton’s Mountain following an overnight fire
1/13/22 Firefighters worked for 12 hours to put a fire out at the Cargill-Nutrena plant in Lecompte, LA
1/31/22 a fertilizer plant with 600 tons of ammonium nitrate inside caught on fire on Cherry Street in Winston-Salem
2/3/22 A massive fire swept through Wisconsin River Meats in Mauston
2/3/22 At least 130 cows were killed in a fire at Percy Farm in Stowe
2/15/22 Bonanza Meat Company goes up in flames in El Paso, Texas
2/15/22 Nearly a week after the fire destroyed most of the Shearer’s Foods plant in Hermiston
2/16/22 A fire had broken at US largest soybean processing and biodiesel plant in Claypool, Indiana
2/18/22 An early morning fire tore through the milk parlor at Bess View Farm
2/19/22 Three people were injured, and one was hospitalized, after an ammonia leak at Lincoln Premium Poultry in Fremont
2/22/22 The Shearer’s Foods plant in Hermiston caught fire after a propane boiler exploded
2/28/22 A smoldering pile of sulfur quickly became a raging chemical fire at Nutrien Ag Solutions
2/28/22 A man was hurt after a fire broke out at the Shadow Brook Farm and Dutch Girl Creamery
3/4/22 294,800 chickens destroyed at farm in Stoddard, Missouri
3/4/22 644,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/8/22 243,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in New Castle, Delaware
3/10/22 663,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, MD
3/10/22 915,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Taylor, IA
3/14/22 The blaze at 244 Meadow Drive was discovered shortly after 5 p.m. by farm owner Wayne Hoover
3/14/22 2,750,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Jefferson, Wisconsin
3/16/22 A fire at a Walmart warehouse distribution center has cast a large plume of smoke visible throughout Indianapolis.
3/16/22 Nestle Food Plant extensively damaged in fire and new production destroyed Jonesboro, Arkansas
3/17/22 5,347,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Buena Vista, Iowa
3/17/22 147,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Kent, Delaware
3/18/22 315,400 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Cecil, Maryland
3/22/22 172,000 Turkeys destroyed on farms in South Dakota
3/22/22 570,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/24/22 Fire fighters from numerous towns are battling a major fire at the McCrum potato processing facility in Belfast.
3/24/22 418,500 chickens destroyed at farm in Butler, Nebraska
3/25/22 250,300 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Franklin, Iowa
3/26/22 311,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
3/27/22 126,300 Turkeys destroyed in South Dakota
3/28/22 1,460,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Guthrie, Iowa
3/29/22 A massive fire burned 40,000 pounds of food meant to feed people in a food desert near Maricopa
3/31/22 A structure fire caused significant damage to a large portion of key fresh onion packing facilities in south Texas
3/31/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Osceola, Iowa
3/31/22 5,011,700 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Osceola, Iowa
4/6/22 281,600 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/9/22 76,400 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/9/22 208,900 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/12/22 89,700 chickens destroyed at farm in Wayne, North Carolina
4/12/22 1,746,900 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Dixon, Nebraska
4/12/22 259,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Minnesota
4/13/22 Fire destroys East Conway Beef & Pork Meat Market in Conway, New Hampshire
4/13/22 Plane crashes into Gem State Processing, Idaho potato and food processing plant
4/13/22 77,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/14/22 Taylor Farms Food Processing plant burns down Salinas, California.
4/14/22 99,600 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/15/22 1,380,500 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Lancaster, Minnesota
4/19/22 Azure Standard nation’s premier independent distributor of organic and healthy food, was destroyed by fire in Dufur, Oregon
4/19/22 339,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/19/22 58,000 chickens destroyed at farm in Montrose, Color
4/20/22 2,000,000 chickens destroyed at egg farm in Minnesota
4/21/22 A small plane crashed in the lot of a General Mills plant in Georgia
4/22/22 197,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/23/22 200,000 Turkeys destroyed in Minnesota
4/25/22 1,501,200 chickens destroyed at egg farm Cache, Utah
4/26/22 307,400 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
4/27/22 2,118,000 chickens destroyed at farm Knox, Nebraska
4/28/22 Egg-laying facility in Iowa kills 5.3 million chickens, fires 200-plus workers
4/28/22 Allen Harim Foods processing plant killed nearly 2M chickens in Delaware
4/2822 110,700 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
4/29/22 1,366,200 chickens destroyed at farm Weld Colorado
4/30/22 13,800 chickens destroyed at farm Sequoia Oklahoma
5/3/22 58,000 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Beadle S Dakota
5/3/22 114,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/3/22 118,900 Turkeys destroyed Lyon Minnesota
5/7/22 20,100 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/10/22 72,300 chickens destroyed at farm Lancaster Pennsylvania
5/10/22 61,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/10/22 35,100 Turkeys destroyed Muskegon, Michigan
5/13/22 10,500 Turkeys destroyed Barron Wisconsin
5/14/22 83,400 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/17/22 79,00 chickens destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/18/22 7,200 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/19/22 Train carrying limestone derailed Jensen Beach FL
5/21/22 57,000 Turkeys destroyed on farm in Dakota Minnesota
5/23/22 4,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
5/29/22 A Saturday night fire destroyed a poultry building at Forsman Farms
5/31/22 3,000,000 chickens destroyed by fire at Forsman facility in Stockholm Township, Minnesota
6/2/22 30,000 ducks destroyed at Duck farm Berks Pennsylvania
6/7/22 A fire occurred Tuesday evening at the JBS meat packing plant in Green Bay.
6/8/22 Firefighters from Tangipahoa Fire District 1 respond to a fire at the Purina Feed Mill in Arcola
6/9/22 Irrigation water was canceled in California (the #1 producer of food in the US) and storage water flushed directly out to the delta.
With inflation at 40-year highs, this is devastating news.
What is going on in America today?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/updated-list-us-based-food-manufacturing-plants-destroyed-biden-administration/

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 12 2022 5:38 utc | 176

Feisty thread. Will gladly donate to b to see more like it.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2022 5:37 utc | 175

Yes, and we’re all either six year olds or former six year olds: C & H

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 12 2022 6:13 utc | 178

OK I’m obliged to point outta a couple of facts that have become somewhat distorted by a poster at MoA of late.
The first distortion is that JF Kennedy’s assassination was an act by the deep state, the first overt act of the deep state we have been told.
Kennedy wasn’t a victim of the deep state, he was a product of it.
He was the first telegenic ‘sexy’ neoliberal politician. Some people like to point to things he said in the last year of his life about Vietnam and the CIA as some sort of proof he was a victim, when if one considers the witterings of any dem pol, they come off sounding very different to how they behave. Early in her term of office Nancy Pelosi claimed to advocate medicare for all. but did as little advance it as AOC, both have blocked moves to vote on Medicare for all. Biden promised to stop the war in Yemen, just as Kennedy promised to stay outta vietnam, what politicians say is no indication of them or what they will do. For example despite making lots of noise on the subject of civil rights before the 1960 election, Kennedy was as slow as a wet week in winter about doing anything to advance the interests of african americans. It wasn’t until Johnson was prez that the federal government moved on that front, largely because Johnson saw civil rights as an integral part of his ‘War on Poverty’.
There is nothing about Kennedy’s imperialist actions whilst prez that could lead one to believe he would have pushed back against the advocates of amerika getting into Vietnam, just the usual duplicitous politician speak, which is worth nothing.
Finally I dunno how anyone with even a passing knowledge of the life of Gene Debs could possibly imagine that the deep state only kicked off in the 1960’s, when Debs himself was imprisoned by that deep state under an amendment to the nefarious espionage act, yep the same bunch of Deep State engendered laws passed & amended by dem prez Woodrow Wilson that currently have Julian Assange under lock & key for the remainder of his natural life.
Debs was ‘lucky’ back then the rethugs were yet to be captured by the deep state so once Wilson copped the flick from an electorate still pissed at amerika’s involvement in WW1, prez Harding sprung him late in 1921 – not that long after his inauguration. Too late unfortunately, as the years he had been locked up caused a cardio condition he never bounced back from and he died in 1926.
There has always been a ‘deep state’ in amerika.
The war of independence was a conflict between imperialists, the old guard in england versus the new guard in amerika plus foreign investors eager to keep their plunder for themselves. “No taxation without representation” sounds awfully like an elite catch cry, ordinary shit-kickers would argue for something rather different “more food on the table” or “eat the rich”, “more jobs for workers, less slaves to steal our jobs” summat like that.
I know amerikans have been indoctrinated into something quite different, so ask yourself this, in what way would a normal, not rich amerikan, get a worse time off a redcoat pre-independence than he/she would from a contemporary amerikan cop?
The % of amerikans locked up for ‘crimes’ since the so-called revolution is far higher now than it was in 1776. If there has been a % decrease in state executions, that will be a reflection of changing global attitudes to state sanctioned murder for petty crimes, but I’m not even sure there has been.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 12 2022 7:08 utc | 180

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 12 2022 7:08 utc | 180
Thanks. Damn straight!
The JFK cult is really something else.It seems that most Americans are fairly convinced that their favourite dead president was a “good guy”

Posted by: K | Jun 12 2022 10:06 utc | 182

@ pretzelattack | Jun 12 2022 2:13 utc | 170
@ malenkov | Jun 12 2022 2:20 utc | 171
Twentieth century diversions — I mean these are really old acorns some of us have been re-roasting in here: weighing in on where we stand and what we believe, as if planetary geophysics could give two hoots for our limited views.
What’s the point of discussing it? The same could be asked of the proxy war in Ukraine. Here in USA, I’m surrounded by impenetrable thoughtlessness — as soon as you mention it (the war), your typical US American shudders and mutters “Putin is Hitler!” I can only sigh and wonder where to start. What’s the point of historical awareness?
When we first moved to the SF Bay Area, we landed in the Sharp Park neighborhood of Pacifica — where you can see California gray whales from dynamic cliffs. Sitting in my half-lotus, meditating atop a sandy cliff, the image once suggested itself to me of all the grains of sand beneath me, holding my body in place vertically, keeping me from falling, forming a inverted cone. That image — visual of cliffs augmented by imagination of a conic cutaway — has stuck with me for many years, as it helps answer that question for me: What’s the point? To know what I can of where and when I stand; of what holds me here… Ambling toward the meaning of life, in this: awareness being awfully close to mindfulness, consciousness.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 12 2022 10:30 utc | 184

@ Bevin / Aleph_Null etc.
We Homo sapiens are so dominant on the Earth right?
Except that the Earth’s surface is 70% ocean and in there HUGE schools of lantern fish cool the whole planet unconsciously: they have a combined mass of 80 billion humans! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8KpuydjfJI
While the IPCC was only looking at antropogenic causes for the slight warming since the end of the Little Ice Age, the US NAVY was forced to call in marine biologists to investigate the mysterious moving water layers in which Russian subs disappeared: the elusive lantern fish in the end.

Posted by: Antonym | Jun 12 2022 11:02 utc | 186

Color revolutions are a technique to overthrow government that centers on controlling communication.
Strictly speaking, censorship is not needed to control outcomes. Simply fast-tracking one class of messages while delaying delivery of another class of messages a minute may be enough to make one group win, and another group lose.
Color revolutions have relied upon internet and social media like Twitter. As an example, in 2009 the State Department asked Twitter to postpone a schedule maintenance to keep Twitter running during unrest in Iran.
Predictably, countries have reacted by shutting down Twitter completely during unrest. In December 2019, Russia demonstrated the capacity to disconnect the entire Russian internet from the global internet.
Equally predictably, it would not take long for the US to catch up. Elon Musks Starlink project provides global internet through satellites, bypassing foreign government control. The project uses thousands of satellites, so taking the whole network out is impractical. If Elon Musk also becomes owner of Twitter, he becomes a one stop shopping for color revolutions.
So here is my prediction: the US will promote Twitter and Starlink internet access in Russia and China, and try to spark color revolutions in Russia and China.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 12 2022 11:26 utc | 188

This comes near the conclusion of a rather typical write-up (from a fresh-faced associate professor of Earth sciences, my emphasis):

Further, Earth has tipping points that could trigger irreversible changes to fragile parts of the Earth system, like glaciers or ecosystems.

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/06/09/global-warming-after-emissions-end/
That plural usage, “tipping points,” is all-but ubiquitous, though geophysically strange — probably because there’s a compelling question writers avoid: Shouldn’t that be singular? Which of several possible turnstiles will be the tipping point, dragging along all the other, plural tipping points behind it?
Some of us used to think Earth’s checkered flag would flutter the first time Arctic sea-ice clears out, but terrestrial permafrost might grab the baton. We usually worry about CO2, but CH4 — methane — looms up as the molecule to tip us over. Katey Walter Anthony mentions CH4 emissions ten times higher at the time of the last deglaciation. Were that (atmospheric CH4 x 10) to happen now, greenhouse forcing would nearly quadruple. With thermal heft like that, there won’t be any smaller points left un-tipped in its wake.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 12 2022 11:39 utc | 190

See, I told you. Ducks are not in a row. I am sorry for the extended italic. Sigh, but onward!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2022 11:52 utc | 192

See, I told you. Ducks are not in a row. I am sorry for the extended italic. Sigh, but onward!
Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2022 11:52 utc | 192
Thank you juliania, it is indeed all about the money.
I am pondering your ducks. I remember the Berlioz, I guess I’ll have to find another copy.
Happy Pentecost.
@Aleph_null : back in the 80s I read a guy who was worried about oxygen depletion, because the methane oxidizes over time once released. Points to the Permian-Triassic extinction event as example of what happens when the clathrates get released. Each CH4 eats a couple O2.
That’s the great thing about chaotic systems, they are unpredictable.
PTEE At Wiki

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 12 2022 12:08 utc | 194

@ Bemildred | Jun 12 2022 12:08 utc | 194
Worrying about oxygen depletion is common, but quite silly. Perhaps people don’t fully grasp that Earth’s atmosphere is 21 percent O2. CH4 today is about 1.9 parts per million. If each CH4 eats two O2’s, as you imply… let’s see: 21% is 210 parts per thousand, or 210,000 parts per million. From under two to over a hundred thousand (one CH4 per two O2’s)? I try to keep an open mind, but I don’t think that’s physically possible. Not on this planet.
Oxygen content in the seawater is, by contrast, precarious — which is why anoxic dead-zones befall deltas like the Mississippi. Fish swim in and instantly suffocate.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 12 2022 12:23 utc | 196

@ Bemildred | Jun 12 2022 12:29 utc | 197
KWA says methane was ten times higher in the last deglaciation. That much — 19 parts per million of CH4 — would signify Earth’s only significant tipping point. Probably enough to finish off the human species. But CH4 would need to (most implausibly) get thousands and thousands of times more concentrated than that to draw down O2 in Earth’s atmosphere.
Please do the simple exponential math on this one. Scientists like dealing in orders of magnitude. It’s a thinking discipline which can quickly simplify matters.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 12 2022 12:49 utc | 198

Please do the simple exponential math on this one. Scientists like dealing in orders of magnitude. It’s a thinking discipline which can quickly simplify matters.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 12 2022 12:49 utc | 198
I have degrees in Math(BA 1974) and Computer Science(MS 1993).
I would think wiping out humanity (as in “Probably enough to finish off the human species.”) would be a big concern.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 12 2022 13:32 utc | 200