Marie-Antoinette, 1770: “Let them eat cake!”
Von der Leyen, 2022: “Let them drive electric!”

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 10 2022 14:19 utc | 3

Interesting read by Engdahl

Increasing evidence is coming to light detailing the hijacking of the core of the American elections system that not only sheds light on the 2020 US elections, but also on private financing the very infrastructure of local election clerks and election procedures including drop-box mail-in balloting and expenses of city and county election offices.
The room for abuse is staggering as the process is not transparent. At the heart of this is a little-known “non-profit” known as the oddly-named Center for Tech and Civic Life or CTCL. The alleged creator of CTCL and current head is a former Obama Foundation Fellow, Tiana Epps-Johnson.
A close scrutiny of her CTCL funders and operations suggest she was simply chosen as a convenient vehicle by very powerful foundations and Big Tech companies to transform the very structure and control of the American elections process.

Zuckerberg, Rockefeller, Google and the Privatization of Election Integrity

Posted by: Down South | Jun 10 2022 14:24 utc | 5

@bevin #6
It is hard to understand why people like you cannot seem to tolerate any questioning of the supposed science behind climate change.
As for why I would resist, it is so simple to answer:
1) The costs and impacts of the proposed climate change mitigation are absolutely enormous.
2) The negative effects will be entirely borne by the poorest parts of society and the world.
3) The imposition of climate requirements also conveniently cements the present economic world order
As such, while I have no worries about the above mentioned climate change impacts actually affecting climate to a significant degree – by the climate change doom mongers’ own calculations – the economic effects very much are enormous and negative.
I laugh out loud at the “economic interests” thing.
I make my living as a cyber security expert at the moment but I am actually standing to benefit from the climate change bullshit – via a new startup aiming to take advantage of the enormous amounts of wasted electricity generated by solar PV and wind. So in a real sense, I am actually talking against my own book.
That’s what true intellectual honesty entails.
I have to say, I had thought you to be a relatively objective person but it is clear that you have climate derangement syndrome – including both blind faith in what you are told concerning the science and the unquestioning acceptance of the most ridiculous garbage told to you by those who you accept as co-secular religionists.
So be it.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 14:43 utc | 7

And then in lock step, they can’t save Taiwan and US hegemony is fatally wounded.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 10 2022 14:48 utc | 8
Thanks for bringing that up. The problem which precision guided missiles present for large expeditionary weapons platforms has been clear since there were such things. The US military is a big fan of large expeditionary weapons platforms and has been resisting that truth for some time. But I think that is about over.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 10 2022 15:03 utc | 9

@ Eighthman | Jun 10 2022 14:48 utc | 8
@ Bemildred | Jun 10 2022 15:03 utc | 9
Aircraft carriers are obsolete. They became popular when aircraft range exceeded gunfire range, making battleships obsolete. Now missile range has (greatly) exceeded aircraft range.
But the US keeps at it because it’s expensive, a good thing. Carriers at $13B, aircraft at $200M, plus accompanying destroyers etc — it’s all good, enriching lots of people in and out of government.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2022 15:08 utc | 11

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2022 15:08 utc | 11
Totally agree. We love big platforms, cost lots $$$$.
Making your weapons as expensive as possible has always seemed like a unlikely way to win a war, but that is clearly not what we care about these days. We seek the one big weapon.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 10 2022 15:16 utc | 13

On the China/US scene there is the quote below from a ZH posting

China has once again firmly denied providing military assistance to Russia at any point in its invasion to Ukraine, a Chinese military spokesman said after bilateral talks with the United States military. US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Chinese Minister of National Defense Gen. Wei Fenghe met Friday in Singapore, in what marked their first face-to-face summit. The two had previously discussed the Russia-Ukraine war via phone.
The meeting was held on the sidelines of the Shangri-la Dialogue, a major regional defense summit. Austin’s meeting with his Chinese counterpart lasted nearly an hour, though it was only scheduled for thirty minutes. A Pentagon readout of the meeting said that Austin informed Wei that the US “remains committed to our longstanding one China policy” regarding the status of Taiwan. This after Biden in a May press conference said the US is committed to defending Taiwan militarily – comments later walked back by the White House.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 10 2022 15:33 utc | 15

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 14:43 utc |
It is hard to understand why people like you cannot seem to tolerate any questioning of the supposed science behind climate change.
Only as presented by a clearly disingenuous person.
As for why I would resist, it is so simple to answer:
1) The costs and impacts of the proposed climate change mitigation are absolutely enormous.
Please expound.
2) The negative effects will be entirely borne by the poorest parts of society and the world.
Oh really??? Are you talking about the black kid taking a bus in Chicago or a Chinese peasant? Name the people you’re talking about here and explain how the people you’re talking about otherwise have a chance to become anything other than dirt poor insofar as the costs you’re talking about re: fossil fuels vs. alternative energy.
3) The imposition of climate requirements also conveniently cements the present economic world order
LOL, how? Same as the previous question. Is it Al Gore you’re talking about? What exactly is the present economic world order? Would the black kid riding the bus and Chinese peasant have a better chance of turning that order upside down if we gave them each oil leases? LMAO
The present order in the Western world is pretty much unbreakable without political change and/or upheaval. Gas prices are already at record highs while the cost of a barrel of oil isn’t. Big fossil fuel companies are laughing all the way to the bank.
I make my living as a cyber security expert at the moment
Cementing my certainty that you’re the “entrepreneur” dude from the YouTube videos you keep hawking/hocking around these parts (the ones I have the rebuttal to on my other PC bookmarked ). That’s the only reason I can think of you’d get so pissy about the comments I made about his lack of scientific credentials. You even went as far as to say I was using ad hominem. At the moment, lol. Jack of all trades, master of none? Looking for ‘influencer’ status on YouTube? Even if you’re not that guy, who cares. So be it.
P.S. I am actually working (for a living) today so I don’t have time to go back and forth with you until later in the afternoon. Don’t let that stop you from trying to find a juvenile and insulting way to characterize my solar panels or degrees in the scientific field, but also don’t expect immediate replies.
P.P.S. WTF did you mean by: “…to take advantage of the enormous amounts of wasted electricity generated by solar PV and wind.”
Wasted electricity? Can you please explain that, in context, without a bunch of stupid equations?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2022 15:41 utc | 17

Inflation hits new 40 year high of 8.6%
source politico
What is scary is that we aren’t seeing the fertilizer related food spikes yet.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 15:47 utc | 19

“…As for why I would resist, it is so simple to answer:
1) The costs and impacts of the proposed climate change mitigation are absolutely enormous.
2) The negative effects will be entirely borne by the poorest parts of society and the world.
3) The imposition of climate requirements also conveniently cements the present economic world order…”
c1ue@7
I wouldn’t disagree with any of these propositions, which merely confirm the nature of class society. Whether the ruling class promotes or contradicts Climate Change theories (and it does both) is of little importance. It will always make attempts to cut the living standards of the masses: the poorest people always suffer. Were this not true they would not be poor. Were they not poor they would be better equipped to defend their interests.
In other words while your third proposition is correct, it would also be correct to say “The effects of climate change will make life particularly difficult for the poor and disenfrachised. ”
Where does this lead us?
To the conclusion that the real problem, to which I always try to draw attention, is that in a class society it is very difficult, bordering on impossible, for matters like climate change to be discussed properly- such is the hegemonic position of the capitalist oligarchy.
What you are promoting is a theory that, for some reason never, so far as I can tell, explained nefarious interests within society are attempting to mislead us into believing that anthropogenic warming is under weigh and dangerous.
Who are these nefarious interests and what is their motive?

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 15:50 utc | 21

Who are these nefarious interests and what is their motive?
Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 15:50 utc | 21
Clearly he’s talking about Al Gore. But in seriousness, he’s probably talking about all the hucksters and “entrepreneurs” in the alternative energy space of the capitalist class structure like Elon Musk.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2022 15:52 utc | 23

@Tom_Q_Collins #17

As for why I would resist, it is so simple to answer:
1) The costs and impacts of the proposed climate change mitigation are absolutely enormous.
Please expound.

Compare the subsidies to alternative energy in Germany and the US, alone, vs. pretty much any social program you care to name.

2) The negative effects will be entirely borne by the poorest parts of society and the world.
Oh really??? Are you talking about the black kid taking a bus in Chicago or a Chinese peasant? Name the people you’re talking about here and explain how the people you’re talking about otherwise have a chance to become anything other than dirt poor insofar as the costs you’re talking about re: fossil fuels vs. alternative energy.

Alternative energy = higher electricity prices. Every single utility, state or nation that has installed large amounts of alternative energy has seen electricity prices increase at multiples of the rates of anywhere else. Rich and middle class can afford more expensive electricity, poor people cannot.
The same applies for gasoline etc etc.

3) The imposition of climate requirements also conveniently cements the present economic world order
LOL, how? Same as the previous question. Is it Al Gore you’re talking about? What exactly is the present economic world order? Would the black kid riding the bus and Chinese peasant have a better chance of turning that order upside down if we gave them each oil leases? LMAO
The present order in the Western world is pretty much unbreakable without political change and/or upheaval. Gas prices are already at record highs while the cost of a barrel of oil isn’t. Big fossil fuel companies are laughing all the way to the bank.

Wow, what a completely nonsensical response. The reality is: alternative energy LCOEs obscure the fact that these technologies require enormous up-front payments of capital. Poor people and/or countries don’t have this capital, nor can they afford the more expensive power that results from them.

I make my living as a cyber security expert at the moment
Cementing my certainty that you’re the “entrepreneur” dude from the YouTube videos you keep hawking/hocking around these parts (the ones I have the rebuttal to on my other PC bookmarked ). That’s the only reason I can think of you’d get so pissy about the comments I made about his lack of scientific credentials. You even went as far as to say I was using ad hominem. At the moment, lol. Jack of all trades, master of none? Looking for ‘influencer’ status on YouTube? Even if you’re not that guy, who cares. So be it.

I have no idea what you are trying to say, since I literally have never once posted a video of anything I am involved with: not as publisher, not as investor, not as subject, not as author. More idiocy because you people can’t do anything but resort to ad hominem.

P.S. I am actually working (for a living) today so I don’t have time to go back and forth with you until later in the afternoon. Don’t let that stop you from trying to find a juvenile and insulting way to characterize my solar panels or degrees in the scientific field, but also don’t expect immediate replies.

Your insults and ad hominem only provoke a similar response from me, and I have no problem dishing it out as well as taking it.

P.P.S. WTF did you mean by: “…to take advantage of the enormous amounts of wasted electricity generated by solar PV and wind.”
Wasted electricity? Can you please explain that, in context, without a bunch of stupid equations?

Yes, because you can’t read what I’ve talked about numerous times. Wind and solar PV are directly responsible for at least 40 million megawatt hours of curtailed electricity every year. Curtailed = utility speak for thrown away, only utilities have to actually pay to do so.
Nor is this cost figured into LCOEs for alternative energy, as backup costs are also not figured into LCOE.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 16:03 utc | 25

@bevin #21
The fallacy in your statement is that the negative effects of climate change are equal or worse, today and in the near future, with the negative effects of climate change mitigation as being pushed today.
And that’s what you cannot seem to comprehend: just because someone is pushing an agenda that is outwardly attractive to you, does not mean the proposition cannot be false or that those pushing it are seeking their own self interest at the expense of you and others.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 16:06 utc | 27

Politico‘s lying as inflation is double what it stated at 17% and climbing. All USG economic numbers are Fantasyland falsifications.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 16:09 utc | 29

We must stop this and take our freedom and our world back from these monsters!
While the war in Ukraine and its evolving consequences are the center of concern, humanity is about to be victimized again by the terrorist corporate-military/intelligence – medical-political-media complex by the unnatural spread of ‘monkeypox’, as stated by ethical experts. As a new, more dangerous ‘variant’ of Sars cov 2/Covid is also being forecast, we can not pretend that another catastrophe is not in the making. We must stop this and take our freedom and our world back from these monsters.
Contrary to the mountain of evidence, growing daily, that: there was no pandemic, but a PCR test (not a diognastic tool) created pandemic; that there is no novel virus, but a bio weapon deliberately spread (see dr David Martin);that the use of cheap, effective and safe existing medication was prohibited causing thousands of unnecessary deaths; that the vaccines, pushed as the only remedy, and recommended as safe and effective, were neither; that these gene injections were given experimental use authorization contrary to regulations and warnings from ethical medical professionals and academics; that their concerns, requests and findings were ignored by the main regulatory bodies (WHO, EMA, CDC etc) and banned from the media and social networks; that ethical medical professionals have been persecuted, some even held in insane asylums; that the warnings of these ethical doctors have all proven true; that the vaccines are unnecessary, unsafe, dangerous and deadly; that they have caused thousands of deaths and millions of severe adverse effects (as per under-reported official adverse effects registers, state and international); that the anti-pandemic measures were the opposite of established epidemic control and wholly ineffective or harmful; that those measures were imposed in order to unlawfully and criminally force vaccination on everyone, including children, and mandate the digital certificate and digital ID with the purpose of total control of the restive world populations in order to preserve the privileges, wealth and power of the capitalist class. For all this there is evidence which would be too long to cite here (I have a 170-page file).
Members of the medical profession who have remained true to their oath have proclaimed the pandemic over, and are insisting that the vaccination stop and the MrNA techonology be banned from use. The head of the WHO, recently re-elected behind closed doors as the only candidate for the post, has just announced that the pandemic is not over and has called for more testing and more vaccination. See:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qETuXpndOV4h/ Global Health Summit
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/06/1119982 Tedros (WHO) 08.06.2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ2vRDSq-1Q Dr Christian Perronne on monkeypox with Taylor Hudak
Dr David Martin, tells it all, recent: https://www.bitchute.com/video/45XTJjEOWWBp/
https://lorphicweb.com/covid-update-what-is-the-truth-this-is-a-must-read/ – just one example
For those interested:
Doctors for Covid Ethics fourth symposium: Unpacking and defeating the medical tactics of a world takeover. Watch the livestream: June 11th 16.30 – 23.30 CET: 15:30- 22:30 BST http://ukcolumn.org
https://doctors4covidethics.org/blog/ – recommended reading

Posted by: JB | Jun 10 2022 16:27 utc | 31

while everyone focuses on ukraine, the idiots in kahaneistan keep screwing about in syria. as in ukraine, russian air defense handles most of it.
not surprising but i have to wonder how russia’s views are shifting given this ongoing nonsense and the sporadic(?) aid to azov types. i know the two countries (well, one country and a glorified US military base) have deep relations (lots of russian and former bloc folks in israel) but at some point something has to give.

Posted by: the pair | Jun 10 2022 16:32 utc | 33

Moscow strongly condemns Zionists for today’s attack on Damascus’s International Airport:

In the early morning of June 10, the Israeli Air Force once again struck at the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic. The target of the attack was the international airport of Damascus. According to incoming information, the airfield suffered serious material damage. The runway was damaged, which Syrian technical services estimate could take a considerable amount of time to rebuild. The Ministry of Transport of the SAR announced the suspension of all flights carried out through the capital’s air harbor.
In this regard, we are forced to emphasize once again that the ongoing Israeli shelling of the territory of the SAR in violation of the basic norms of international law is absolutely unacceptable. We strongly condemn Israel’s provocative attack on a critical Piece of Syrian civilian infrastructure. Such irresponsible actions pose serious risks to international air traffic and put the lives of innocent people in real danger. We demand that the Israeli side cease this vicious practice.

Occupied Palestine is escalating its belligerence in the region. Overshadowed by the SMO, the Syrian situation is escalating and bears watching.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 16:35 utc | 35

In Kazan, the International Congress on Eurasian Integration is being held. Lavrov sent a short note of welcome from Armenia:

I cordially welcome the participants and organizers of the Kazan International Congress of Eurasian Integration-2022.
In modern conditions, our strategic task is to strengthen the Eurasian Economic Union.
The EAEU is a modern and relatively young integration association, which has already proved its viability and effectiveness. However, the world is changing, but, as you know, the crisis is a time of opportunities, including for our Union and its members.
The Kazan International Congress of Eurasian Integration is an excellent platform for exchanging experience, consolidating efforts and establishing cooperation in the development of the EAEU, its transformation in accordance with the new reality.
I hope that you will be able to contribute to improving the activities of the Eurasian Economic Union, and the ideas and recommendations you have expressed will be in demand and will serve to further deepen our integration and achieve its goals.
I sincerely wish you successful and fruitful work.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 16:50 utc | 37

Lavrov’s presser after the meeting of the CSTO Council of Foreign Ministers began with the following statement:

The meeting of the CSTO Council of Foreign Ministers has ended. We adopted an important statement on international security, which, for the first time within the framework of the CSTO, enshrines the principle of the indivisibility of security, the need to ensure equal and indivisible security, when no country will strengthen its security at the expense of the security of any other country. This principle was proclaimed a long time ago within the OSCE as a political commitment, but our Western colleagues categorically refuse to implement it in practice and demanded the provision of legal security guarantees exclusively within the framework of the North Atlantic Alliance.
Today we reaffirmed our commitment to this principle not only in the OSCE area, but also in the development of the entire international situation. The relevance of asserting the indivisibility of security is now evident in the Indo-Pacific region.
Our Chinese strategic partners stress the need to apply the principle of indivisibility of security in a global context.
The second document that was signed is a rich Plan of Consultations between the Foreign Ministries and the Defence Ministries. It involves coordinating actions in the Euro-Atlantic region (this is the OSCE space), approaches to the agenda of the UN General Assembly and consultations on various regional crises and conflicts. A number of events are devoted to coordinating positions on international information security and cybercrime. Consultations will be held on the military line, military-technical cooperation, the development of collective air forces and other aspects, including the training of CSTO peacekeeping contingents to participate in peacekeeping operations conducted through the UN.
A separate point of the Plan involves regular consultations between the press services of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

This is a very important development. A short Q&A session followed:

Question: You said recently in an interview that the CSTO should become a decisive factor in ensuring security in the entire Eurotlantic, as opposed to NATO. NATO already has 30 and soon there will be two more states, and the CSTO has only six. How do you intend to solve these problems? Will the CSTO expand? What will be Russia’s role in all this?
Sergey Lavrov: We have never talked about the leading role of the CSTO. We have always stressed our commitment to the OSCE decisions that declared the inadmissibility of attempts by any country and organization to claim a dominant position in the Euro-Atlantic region, which NATO is actively engaged in. Therefore, the CSTO acts as a balancer of actions that, as a rule, are illegitimately taken by the North Atlantic Alliance.
As for the quantitative composition. There is quantity, and there is quality, both in terms of the states themselves that are part of a particular military-political alliance, and in terms of existing defensive capabilities. We have repeatedly suggested that our NATO colleagues on behalf of the CSTO (this was done for the first time many years ago at the level of heads of state and foreign ministers) start a dialogue and establish mechanisms for interaction and consultations. NATO arrogantly refused. I think that it has already become clear to everyone that they cannot decide the fate of Europe.
Question: Yesterday, President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky imposed sanctions against the Russian leadership, including President of Russia Vladimir Putin and you. Will Moscow take any retaliatory measures in this regard?
Sergey Lavrov: I don’t think this is worthy of any concrete step on our part: “Whatever the child does”…
Question: A court in the DPR sentenced to death three foreigners who took part in hostilities on the side of Ukraine. Dmitry Pushilin said that the tribunal for those released from Azovstal will be held before the end of the summer. At the same time, DPR Prime Minister Vladimir Khotsenko said that the republic’s integration with the Russian Federation is already underway and that one of its tasks is to unify the DPR legislation with the Russian one. Does the Azovstal tribunal mean that people who come out of there will also face the death penalty? And given that Russia has a moratorium on the death penalty, can we expect that in the near future this punishment in the DPR will be canceled?
Sergey Lavrov: At the moment, all the processes you mentioned are proceeding on the basis of DPR legislation. The crimes in question were committed in the territory of the republic. Everything else is a subject for speculation. I would not introduce myself into the work of the judicial law enforcement system of the Donetsk People’s Republic.
Question: I would like to draw your attention to the recent statements made by the Polish president. He said a lot of things. His most egregious statement, in which he drew a parallel between Vladimir Putin and A. Hitler, also said that in no case should the leaders of France and Germany enter into direct contact with the Russian authorities in order to resolve the Ukrainian issue. How can you respond to that? Does this mean that Poland has completely abandoned a diplomatic solution to the issue?
Sergey Lavrov: I am not compared to anyone? Ribbentrop?
It is difficult to comment on the statements of many European politicians (and Ukrainian too). Poland and its leaders, who allow such maxims, are better advised to study their own history, the events underlying it. We see that behind the talk about the inadmissibility of dialogue with Russia, Polish colleagues are beginning to actively “develop” Ukrainian territory. Relevant decisions taken by President Volodymyr Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada on the special rights of Poles, which are essentially equal to Ukrainians in everything except the right to vote; the recent report that Poland is creating some kind of parallel system of control of the tax service of Ukraine – all this speaks volumes quite eloquently.
As for statements that neither England nor France needed to talk to Russia, I heard other assessments, including from Paris and Berlin. Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Emmanuel Macron once expressed serious disappointment with the actions of the Eu Russophobes, who blocked the initiative of France and Germany to hold an EU summit with President Vladimir Putin. They are reasonable politicians, they understood the need to look for a way out of the crisis that had been accumulating for years. First of all, it was aggravated by Zelensky’s categorical refusal to implement the Minsk agreements. You know all that.
We are still open to dialogue, but you need to dance tango together. Our Western partners are still engaged in break-dancing alone.

Lavrov’s quips are appreciated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 17:01 utc | 39

@ karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 16:35 utc | 35
The runway was damaged, which Syrian technical services estimate could take a considerable amount of time to rebuild.
from the files, five years ago

Syrian warplanes have reportedly taken off from the air base targeted by US air strikes, less than 24 hours after it was pounded by dozens of US cruise missiles. .. . Col. Hassan Hamade, a Syrian pilot who defected in June 2012 when he landed his MiG-21 in Jordan, agreed. “The bombardment of Shayrat will not have a major effect on military operations of the regime,” said Mr Hamade, speaking to The Associated Press. He said if only the tarmac was destroyed it can be fixed within hours, but if the communications system and the control tower were heavily damaged it will take weeks if not months.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 10 2022 17:10 utc | 41

NemesisCalling@34
You are beginning to sound like a character in a sequel to Dr Strangelove:
“The youth and minorities have always been a back door for communists to infiltrate the U.S..”
“Here is Zora Neale Hurston, one of the greatest writers in America past or present (???), negro or not, articulating why the negro should not choose communism.”
“…Suffice to say that those who seek to further instill in our youth the idea of global catastrophe, of a united (read: communist) government to combat this ecological original sin, deserve only our slander now and forever…”
“.. Such evil in these people.”

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 17:26 utc | 43

the pair | Jun 10 2022 16:32 utc | 33
Problems like the Middle East, Ukraine and many others around the world can only be fully resolved after the hegemon has been broken. Breaking the hegemon is now Putin’s spoken intention fully supported by China as per the Chinese ambassador to Moscow.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2022 17:30 utc | 45

@ 43 bevin
And your replies to me as of late are lacking anything of substance to refute them.
It must mean I am wearing your old ass out.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2022 17:34 utc | 47

Why is the Nazi Nemesis still allowed to post his garbage on this blog? Honest question.

Posted by: v | Jun 10 2022 18:02 utc | 49

Hi from Turkiye
Turkey started to lay undersea pipes for Black Sea gas extraction:
https://sputniknews.com/20220606/turkey-to-build-deepwater-facility-for-gas-production-in-black-sea-reports-say-1096054455.html
“It is expected that in the first quarter of 2023, daily gas production will be 10 million cubic meters, the newspaper added.”
Note that Turkey’s trade deficit is almost equal to the imported energy for domestic needs. If completed the project could help to improve Turkey’s independency and secure transitional period the world is going through.

Posted by: asehi | Jun 10 2022 18:33 utc | 51

asehi @51–
Related to your comment is this item from yesterday dealing with the ongoing friction between Greece and Turkey. IMO, some trusted non-vested nation will need to convene negotiations aimed at satisfying the energy attainment issues in the Eastern Mediterranean region involving Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, and Palestine so that each can share in whatever abundance exists in the region. Otherwise, war is quite likely.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 18:48 utc | 53

@karlof1, #36:

….So, we have the Outlaw US Empire violating the Biological Weapons Treaty and the Non Proliferation Treaty along with its continual violations of the UN Charter.

Yes indeed! It is well known that the USA has the most pervasive biological research labs around the world, and has been known to have experimented with various transmittal schemes of biological antigen for the so-called “Proof of functional gain”. It has also been proved to have used biological/chemical weaponries in wars since the WW2. Yet, when the USA cadres tried to pin a ‘guilty’ label onto China for this COVID fiasco, the UN responded and actually went to do so in high profile. When China calls for equal treatment upon the USA, the UN kept its mouth shut and tail between the tail. This is the global justice of today. I really wonder why China even value UN so highly as a venue to pursue global cooperation in various pressing issues facing the human race.
The accusation of Xinjiang genocide is so ludicrous as to insult the intelligence of the audiences being preached to, yet highly placed scholars/politicians/scientists/journalists of the westwould still echo every silly comment coming from State Department, or MI6, or that propaganda outfit in Mid-town Manhattan.
The world is in very sad shape. Given the points I just made, I believe the human race deserves the shape it’s in due to its own stupidity.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jun 10 2022 19:06 utc | 55

@karlof1,
boy! you are prodigious today. Keep them comin’, as you for one usually make great ponderable points in this forum :-).

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Jun 10 2022 19:09 utc | 57

So if I understand the “no climate change” people, the basis of the argument is that human activity falls outside the bounds of the natural world. Is this correct? Nature “operates” a large number of cycles of various things, including carbon. Nature absolutely corrects these cycles when they get unbalanced, but it can be a slow process. But we’re injecting variables into natural cycle corrections.
I return to the simple question: are we part of nature and have an effect on it or are we outside of nature and have no significant effect on it?
Policy prescriptions are not fundamentally related to the underlying question or issues. Just because those are bad does not mean they’re unnecessary, it would only mean that we’re arriving at incorrect conclusions that inform behavior. Many of them are very poor choices for various reasons, the biggest one being the conceit that A. we can control nature and B. that we are outside it, which is the only way one can argue that we can control it. Or C. the solutions aren’t developed to address the problem but to advance certain sectors of capitalism.

Posted by: Lex | Jun 10 2022 19:41 utc | 59

I just posted the last segment of Putin’s long discussion with young entrepreneurs and students prior to their participation in this weekend’s 25th SPIF. To the few barflies who read the transcript and wrote excellent comments, thanks much for your feedback. Yes, it is a very long read, but its revelations are many and uplifting. Thanks to b for fixing the software to allow for longer commentary!
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 17:22 utc | 42
Thank you for posting this, which I’ve just finished reading. I was struck by the concrete, substantive discussion that took place between Putin and the various technological specialists. He seemed extraordinarily well-prepared, despite there undoubtedly being other current matters that draw much of his attention.

Posted by: David Levin | Jun 10 2022 20:29 utc | 61

David Levin @61–
Thanks for your reply. I see Putin’s abilities reflected in those of the youth he frequently–at least four times annually–hears from. In Russia, No Child Gets Left Behind isn’t a slogan but THE reality of its educational system which reflects the philosophy of Russia’s leaders which goes back to Tsarist times. In Russia, it’s realized that anyone could be the next celebrated expert in their field; and to realize that possibility, everyone must be given the opportunity to show what they can do. As with China, Russia’s extremely keen on developing its Human Capital for as Putin pointed out that forms the basis for a cohesive society.
Oriental Voice @55, 57 &58–
Thanks for your replies and further commentary. IMO, both Xi and Putin are well aware of the corruption existing within the UN that debilitates its duties; yet, both are staunch defenders of the UN Charter because its ideals can’t realistically be improved upon, while those running its agencies can. That position seems to be agreed with by many other nations as we witnessed with Wang Yi’s tour of the South Pacific Island Nations. Once the Outlaw US Empire’s corrosive efforts are curtailed and its compradors weeded out and replaced–something that could occur as soon as 2030–the UN will finally have the opportunity to fulfill its destiny, not as a global government as is often propagandized, but as the global meeting place for settling disputes and organizing collective efforts to advance humanity and the state of nature.
Any objective observer watching events on Earth since 1945 can see the Outlaw US Empire is THE biggest negative force keeping humanity from progressing; and when removed, the world’s creative development will race forward as the focus shifts to developing the planet’s human capital instead of aiming at the accumulation of false capital possessions that are detrimental to humanity.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 21:01 utc | 63

@Lex | Jun 10 2022 19:41 utc | 59

So if I understand the “no climate change” people, the basis of the argument is that human activity falls outside the bounds of the natural world. Is this correct?

No it is utterly wrong and an irrelevant strawman. By the way it is you guys who claim “no climate change”. The climate has always changed and always will be changing.

Nature “operates” a large number of cycles of various things, including carbon.

This falls in the “not even wrong” category wrt. “carbon” (an Orwellian euphemism for the natural trace gas CO2). But indeed there are cycles or quasi-cycles in nature, such as solar cycles short and long term (the Sun is a variable star and now entering a new grand minimum) and ice-age causing gravitational effects like the Milankovitch-cycles.

I return to the simple question: are we part of nature and have an effect on it or are we outside of nature and have no significant effect on it?

Who claims we are not part of nature? You guys seem to be claiming so. Do we have an effect on nature? Yes. Do we have an effect on climate in a measureable way? There is no evidence to support such a hypothesis, because it has not been measured. All you have are computer predictions that have consistently failed for 3 decades so far.
The Key to Science
We are currently in an interglacial period. The future is the normal state: Another ice-age

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 10 2022 21:15 utc | 65

Speaking of history – I brought up the Seige of Sarajevo on another thread, and said the media coverage warned of the threat of a European military superpower being created that would launch an attack on Canada after finishing off in the Balkans. My source for news at that time was CBC’s The National. They actually leaked a copy of the map, showing which European country would get which island or coastal segment of Canada. More than once, they showed that in their program. And also – Canada’s peacekeepers as part of UNPROFOR were tasked with ensuring the security and operation of the Sarajevo airport. In the online sources I reviewed, it said 1,600 Canadian soldiers were involved in that. The media at the time, said that number was actually 10,000 (10,600 ??) I wonder if those reports will ever be publicly available again.
And CBC’s coverage in that year suggested that bringing Spain into NATO was a direct retaliation for Canada becoming a constitutional monarchy, with the Queen as head of state, not answering to the British parliament.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 10 2022 21:34 utc | 67

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 16:35 utc | 35
Ah ! The usual hide behind the commercial aircraft traversing great circle flight path.
What the world say? When “Clear Air Turbulence(CAT)” causes a catastrophic total loss for both aircraft.
Will the Hague Court turn the usual blind eye and blame Russia?
Will the Hague Court. Grow a pair and convict both the Israeli chief of air staff and Israeli Minister of Defense as “War criminals”?
Will the bankrupt USSA pay off the corrupt Hague Court with a $100-00 bank note. Limit all payouts to the surviving relatives for a maximum of very worthless USD(air dollars) at $10K per head……..
The answer is blowing in the wind ……………

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 10 2022 22:23 utc | 69

Tracking aircraft carriers is trivial.
… the carriers all use extensive radar systems – for flight control as well as to detect incoming threats.
Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 15:21 utc | 14

Indeed. There are countless ways to spot a carrier. Trying to hide a carrier on the open sea didn’t work at Midway, and has been entirely impossible for decades.
Carriers generate massive underwater sound through their propulsion and other systems that can be picked up and triangulated by sonar hundreds of miles away. In near-peer warfare, carriers would be expected be taken out by tactical nukes within the first hour.
Direct visual/IR surveillance is also a factor. A drone flying at 35,000 feet can spot infrared, radar and other signatures directly (without resort to error-prone “over-the-horizon” techniques) within a horizon distance of over 200 nm. This still ignores the noise and commotion associated with the wider carrier group.

Posted by: Pacific Observer | Jun 10 2022 22:52 utc | 71

NemesisCalling@47
You are certainly succeeding in being tiresome.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 10 2022 22:59 utc | 73

Nothing to See Here
Posted by: c1ue | Jun 10 2022 15:47 utc | 19
What is scary is that we aren’t seeing the fertilizer related food spikes yet
Also yet to be experienced:
Further increases in NG prices as EU competes with ROW for the available unsanctioned supply
Further increases in NG prices as the US experiences peak cooling season and an increased demand for electric supply.
Further increases in food costs due impact of SW drought on CA farm production coupled with water scarcity issues.
Further increases in food costs due increased transport costs resulting from higher FF costs and reduced refinery capacity.
Further increases in food costs due need for NG and other FF to dry crops, power combines, transport agricultural yield.
Further increase in electricity costs due to reduced hydro generation capacity due low water levels in reservoirs. This will drive FF demand for generation capacity putting further pressure on FF prices.
Further demand for NG due coming EU “freak out”(technical term) in response to inability to source needed NG to prepare for winter heating season. This will drive global energy prices to new highs.
Decreased supply of US domestic FF due to Tzu Biden “The US has nothing to fear but us,” restrictions on domestic FF production, the effects of inappropriate FED interest rate hikes, and the threat (or actual imposition) of windfall profit taxes on FF sector
Increased costs imposed by “green washing” initiatives such as legislated EV purchases and legislated ICU obsolescence.
Increased FF costs due to global military posturing as the forces “turn and burn” due to irrational group paranoia and therefore compete for the ROW unsanctioned FF supply further driving up costs.
Further FED policy hikes in an irrational attempt to control runaway inflation and out Volcker Volcker
The cumulative effect of the above, and the scapegoating of Putin and Chu Mao as a policy response, will result in significant numbers of Americans seeking to resettle in Kiev in search of a sane political environment.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 10 2022 23:10 utc | 75

Lindzen’s cloud hypothesis has not received any support, not because there is a conspiracy to silence him but because he could not support it.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 10 2022 19:43 utc | 60
I’m not sure whether you are saying that Lindzen’s work wasn’t suppressed, that it was but he’s wrong anyway, or something else.
However, if the events he recounts in an article that I linked to in another thread are true, then he and others who question climate change are most certainly being suppressed. If anyone requests that I repost the link, I will be glad to do so.

Posted by: David Levin | Jun 10 2022 23:40 utc | 77

Iranian missile attack on Erbil. A FB friend shared this, I believe its a translation a Russian journal. I haven’t found confirmation from the MSM.
US military air base attacked from Iranian territory
Iran strikes a US air base from its territory.
Tonight, the US military airbase in Erbil was directly hit by missiles. According to preliminary reports, the strikes were carried out by Fatah-110 missiles, but more remarkably, the missiles were launched from Iranian territory.
Some of these missiles are known to have hit the Erbil military air base. There are reports of damage, casualties and even deaths among the military and specialists of the so-called international coalition.
It is known that there was no attempt to intercept the missiles launched from Iranian territory. And, remarkably, a medical plane left Ramstein Air Base in Germany and immediately flew to Iraq. This indicates that the victims are numerous and that the latter are in serious condition, although there has been no official statement on this subject.
Iranian sources have also indirectly confirmed missile fire from Iranian territory. This indicates that Tehran should take responsibility for the attack on the American base. Nevertheless, US sources indicate that an Iranian drone may also have been involved in the attack. These sources, however, indicate that the United States failed to detect and repel the attacks in time.
For now, there is no official statement from Tehran, but experts expect an escalation very imminent.
“While until recently the United States was limited to strikes against pro-Iranian groups, since strikes against the United States were not carried out from the territory of the Islamic Republic, the United States United could now opt for strikes on Iranian territory as well. It would be logical to assume that Israel could also join in the strikes, because Jerusalem has its own interest in doing so,” explains the specialist.
Analysts believe that if an escalation is to be expected, it will occur within the next 48 to 72 hours. And, in all likelihood, retaliatory strikes, if they occur, will be limited to Iran’s most important targets.
Source Avia pro

Posted by: Kate Frey | Jun 11 2022 0:50 utc | 79

Posted by: Lex | Jun 10 2022 19:41 utc | 59
Lex, in response to your question I suggest a review of this graph:
https://images.twnmm.com/c55i45ef3o2a/4ZJwDIgSfiBHpUnUAF8E8V/c41847c9e7b1e743ffd768fe8c221c56/Keeling_Curve_June_7_2022_co2_10k_Scripps_Institution_of_Oceanography.png?fit=pad&w=600&q=80&fm=webp
Our presence on the planet has been facilitated by the process of homeostasis, a relatively stable equilibrium between diverse interdependent elements.
If you have a homeostatic system and you manipulate a single critical variable of that system it can be expected the system will alter.
What is notable from the graph is that the measured increase in CO2 commenced within my lifetime and not before. The effects of that altered variable are yet to be experienced due to the complexity of the system, the vast range of interdependencies and, as you point out, the lag in response times.

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2022 1:06 utc | 81

psychohistorian@81
If you recall it was ‘potential “attacks from Iran.”’which the US used as justification for putting missile bases into Rumania and, I believe, Poland.
Which in turn alarmed Russia and led to the red line around Ukraine ending up the same way. Congress is full of people whose electoral defeat is urgently required.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2022 1:26 utc | 83

“…In essence, we have trapped ourselves within a socio-economic construct wherein it is “uneconomic” to feed the starving. I doubt such a world system will long persist. And it doesn’t matter how many CVNs and F-35s attempt to prop it up. Or the degree to which you defend it.
Sushi@77
Absolutely right. As to why they do it- post obsessively on the matter, and other matters too- I cannot imagine. But could it be as simple as Joe Tzu’s “Ignorance longs for company” ?

Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2022 1:34 utc | 85

More Brilliance in the Air

Overall, more than half the Navy’s aircraft are grounded, most because there isn’t enough money to fix them.

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2017/02/06/grounded-nearly-two-thirds-of-us-navys-strike-fighters-cant-fly/

Nearly two-thirds of the fleet’s strike fighters can’t fly — grounded because they’re either undergoing maintenance or simply waiting for parts or their turn in line on the aviation depot backlog.

If Alfred E. Neuman spoke Chinese he would say: 什么兆瓦担心？

Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2022 2:07 utc | 87

–one example of Hudson’s admonition that governments acquire natural monopolies to make their economy’s more efficient and competitive.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 10 2022 18:36 utc | 52
Thank you, karlof1. In the earlier discussions with youthful entrepreneurs, Putin was cautious about extending such a state monopoly to light industry projects. This was a good indication, I thought, that he saw the value in keeping such projects open to the creativity of individual ‘free enterprise’. It’s the same sort of combined fluidity that one has if able to make use of public transportation as well as the possibility of creating an environmentally friendly vehicle. All very positive and hopeful, unlike some of the negative arguments we’ve had here today. After all, surely it is better to stimulate young people in the challenges of what they are currently faced with in Russia than . . . break dancing?

Posted by: juliania | Jun 11 2022 2:31 utc | 89

Summit of the Americas looks like it is actually a snake pit of murderers and some trapped victims.
Louis Almegro, President of the Organisation of American States is accused of facilitating murder of citizens and a journalist.
Jimmy Dore and team out the yankee running dogs here in a 14 minute utoob.

The Americas Summit has begun, even without the participation of Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba, which were banned from the event by the Biden administration, or Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who refused to attend without his socialist-led neighbors.
These absences didn’t entirely protect attendees, however, as a protester stood up in the middle of a symposium to accuse Organization of American States head Luis Almagro of being a “murderer” for supporting a bloody coup against Bolivian President Evo Morales.
Jimmy and his panel consisting of The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal and American comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the United States’ shrinking influence and control over its neighbors.

Let’s go Brandon.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 11 2022 2:48 utc | 91

Eighthman | Jun 10 2022 14:48 utc | 8
“……if China can track [US] carriers with accuracy,………
Didn’t they send a probe to the dark side of the moon?
Certainly they have space capability…. So..imma guessing they can track some tubs in the Pacific …and the South CHINA Sea …

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2022 3:09 utc | 93

After triple checking today is not April 1:
Two people have reportedly been rescued after being trapped in a chocolate tank at a Mars M&M factory in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania.
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1534993219263545344
>Sometimes… and especially at time like these, I think we can accommodate a *little* silliness?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2022 3:53 utc | 95

I fail to understand your demonstrated need to attack others who hold positions alternate to your own. One of the hallmarks of civil debate is the ability to tolerate opinions counter to your own. I come to MoA precisely to be exposed to alternate perceptions of that bawdy house we call reality.
Posted by: Sushi | Jun 11 2022 0:43 utc | 77

Yes, that ‘demonstrated need to attack others‘ is tiresome and a blot on this wonderful blog.
Thanks Sushi for putting that in such cordial terms.
I say more Joe Tzu and less FU!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 11 2022 4:01 utc | 97

If we all agreed with each other on everything — what a dull world that would be! There wouldn’t be any horse races, for one thing. . .And no elections! . .where we are given the opportunity to vote for either Hillary or Trump. . .on second thought. . .

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 11 2022 4:18 utc | 99