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June 27, 2022

Newsbits on Ukraine - Lysichansk Cauldron, Civilian Damage, Reserve Troops, Russian 'Default'

This was the Lysichansk area on June 2022 with the Russian positions in red.


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This is the same area one week later.


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The distance between the red fronts above and below has shrunk to 8 kilometer (~5 miles). According to Russian source there are some 8,000 soldiers and militia left in Lysichansk.

The area between the Russian fronts is under full Russian artillery control with drones flying above seeing anyone who moves to escape from Lysichansk to Siversk on the left side of the map. A Washington Post report describes what happens to those who try:

The Ukrainian Airborne unit was relieved to be pulling back from the front Sunday morning, riding a column of armored personnel carriers away from the embattled city of Severodonetsk, which had already fallen to the Russians, and Lysychansk, which was on the brink.

“Nothing happened to us to when we were at the front,” the unit commander said. “It was while we were retreating that we got hit.”

They were hit, and hit badly.

As the convoy moved into the farm village of Verkhniokamianske, with many of the soldiers riding on the outside of the vehicles, the first blast struck right by them. It was a cluster bomb, they would later surmise, something that tore through the contingent of men clinging to that side of one truck.

Several men were wounded, with blood pouring from limbs and, in one case, a soldier’s head. But there was no time to treat them while the convoy remained in the crosshairs of Russian artillery. The uninjured applied tourniquets where they could, dragged the hurt back onto the vehicles and raced out of the village, across rutted farm lanes to a line of trees across a golden wheat field about a kilometer away.

(The claim of a cluster bomb is likely wrong. An exploding 152mm high explosive artillery round spreads many fragments of deadly metal around.)

There were at least eight wounded in the attack. The bodyguard of the WaPo reporter helped to apply first aid to them. They were 'evacuated' back to Lysichansk.

Whoever commands the 8,000 soldiers there should tell them to give up and to surrender to the Russian led forces.

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On Saturday Russian bomber flying over the Caspian Sea fired four cruise missiles into the Artem missile factory in Kiev. The 'western' reporting claimed that some hit a civilian building:

Russian missiles hit a multistory residential building and a kindergarten in Kyiv early on Sunday, killing at least one person and injuring six others in what the city’s mayor called an attempt to “intimidate Ukrainians” on the eve of summits in Europe focused strongly on the war.
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The casualties occurred in the nine-story apartment block in central Kyiv, badly damaged by what the Ukrainian air force said were Russian Kh-101 cruise missiles launched from long-range strategic bombers over the Caspian Sea, roughly 1,000 miles away.

A picture in the report shows damage to the upper two floors.


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The Kh-101 cruise missile has a warhead with 450 kilogram of high explosives. If one had hit that high-rise the building would be completely gone.

Modern Russian cruise missiles are extremely precise as last week's damage of the Dnieper bridge in the Cherkasy region of Ukraine shows. The railway part that was used to transport heavy weapons is gone. The road bridge right next to it has little damage.


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It is way more likely that the building in Kiev was hit by an Ukrainian air defense missile that missed its target but eventually fell back to earth.

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Any army fighting a war will hold some trained units in reserve. Such a reserve will be used to block a strategic breakthrough by the enemy or when there is a good chance to launch a significant counterattack. As Kiev was throwing untrained Territorial Defense Forces into the slaughter of the Donbas front I began to doubt that there was still a significant reserve. On Friday or Saturday the Ukrainian president Zelensky ordered all Territorial Forces that were left in areas that are currently not fought in to move to the Donetsk front. This included some units from Odessa which is still in danger of being attacked. That nearly sealed it for me. If they pull troops from Odessa the Ukrainian reserve must have gone.

But on Sunday the daily report by the Russian Defense Ministry told me that I was wrong:

High-precision attacks of Russian Aerospace Forces and Kalibr missiles were launched at 169th Army Training Centre near Desna (Chernigov region), 199th Air Assault Troops Training Centre near Teterevka (Zhitomir region), as well as at 184th Training Centre of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Starichi (Lvov region).

Attacks have resulted in neutralising 65th, 66th mechanised brigades and 46th Airmobile Brigade from AFU strategic reserves that were finishing their preparation at those training grounds. The planned redeployment of the above mentioned units to operations area has been frustrated.

Three full brigades, likely at full strength and equipped with weapons the 'west' has delivered, are a significant force of probably 12,000 men. They could have launched a decent counterattack on Kherson or some other area the Russian forces have captured but where their defense lines are currently quite thin.

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Another day, another false claim of civilian casualties?

The Kyiv Independent @KyivIndependent - 4:32 PM · Jun 27, 2022

⚡️ Zelensky: 'Russia strikes shopping center in Kremenchuk, while over thousand people inside.'

“The mall is on fire, firefighters are trying to extinguish the fire, the number of victims is impossible to imagine," said President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Volodymyr Zelensky/Telegram
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The video show a burning shopping center which does not seem to have an urban surrounding. Some 20 civilians are hanging around and watch as the firefighters do their job. They show no panic or grief. The shopping center's rather large parking space is empty except for some five cars which all seem to be undamaged. I see no bicycles.

If there were 1,000 people in the shopping center how did they get there? How did they plan to get home?

Another video from a different perspective also shows a large empty parking space with two soldiers strolling by in full battledress. They have helmets on, wear body armor and carry their weapons. They have large military backpacks. Some other soldiers who are hanging around in olive green clothing great them.


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Kremenchuk is on the Dnieper, far from the front lines. Why were the soldiers at the burning shopping center. Was there something in there that was of military interest?

Satellite pictures show that the shopping center is right next to the large Kredmash machine plant. Was that the real target of the attack with the shopping center being an unintended casualty?

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The New York Times headlines:

Russia Misses Bond Deadline, Signaling Its First Default on Foreign Debt Since 1918

About $100 million in dollar- and euro-denominated interest payments failed to reach investors within a 30-day grace period following a missed May 27 deadline. The grace period expired Sunday night.

A formal declaration of default would need to come from bondholders because ratings agencies, which normally declare when borrowers have defaulted, have been barred by sanctions from reporting on Russia. The Credit Derivatives Determinations Committee, a panel of investors that rules on whether to pay out securities linked to defaults, hasn’t been asked to make a decision on these bond payments yet.

Russia has paid the interest on June 24:

MOSCOW. June 24 (Interfax) - National Settlement Depository (NSD), the paying agent for Russian sovereign Eurobonds, has received 8.5 billion rubles or $159.4 million equivalent in order payment of coupon interest on the country's 2028 Eurobonds, the Finance Ministry said.

The ministry said it had honored obligations to service the sovereign bonds in full.

The ministry said on June 23 that it had has transferred rubles to the NSD in payment of coupons on the country's 2027 and 2047 Eurobonds as part of the new arrangement for servicing sovereign external debt, as approved by a presidential decree of June 22.

The new form of payment came after the 'west' rejected to receive the money in Euros. As the NYT writes:

Russia is rejecting the default declaration, on the grounds that it has made efforts to pay. Dmitri S. Peskov, the Kremlin’s spokesman, told reporters on Monday that the statements about default were “absolutely illegal.”

“The fact that Euroclear withheld this money, did not transfer it to the recipients, it is not our problem,” Mr. Peskov said. “In other words, there are no grounds to call this situation a default.”

The bond investors can easily get their money in the currency they want. They will have to open two accounts with Gazprombank in Zurich, one in rubles and one in euros. They then can ask Russia's National Settlement Depository to send their rubles to their rubles account at Gazprombank which will happily buy those rubles  and move the corresponding euro value into the investor's euro account.

That is simply the reverse of the process European buyers use to pay for Russian gas in rubles.

There is zero reason then to call this a default.

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As Russia captures Lugansk and Severodonetsk suddenly a massive attack happens on a Kremenchuk shopping center with 1,000 people inside.

Every Western media is blaming Russia.

Same day NATO announces Russia is literally a threat to NATO comes the attack.

Here is the video of the attack on shopping mall.

Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPUZ2czhoXc

Posted by: Dean Oneil | Jun 27 2022 17:23 utc | 1

thanks b.. excellent overview which covers a lot...

i am curious.. is it possible for ukraine to surrender the troops inside that cauldron? if so - that would be a lot of ukraine troops to have to process as pows... their chances at this point look dim.. war is brutal... chas freeman was right - fighting russia down to the last ukrainian..

Posted by: james | Jun 27 2022 17:25 utc | 2

@ Dean Oneil | Jun 27 2022 17:23 utc | 1

b covers that in this article.. he gives it a lot of nuance as well..

Posted by: james | Jun 27 2022 17:26 utc | 3

All west optics. For eyes, not for brains.

Do you honestly believe there are Ukrainian shopping malls with 1,000 people inside? Not even the largest US NYC or SF shopping malls can hold that many people.

Russia default? Hahaha...Go sue the White House, not Moscow. And, the western rentiers will just do that for the bonds.

Posted by: kitaySupporter | Jun 27 2022 17:33 utc | 4

From RT: Partisan activities” have been emerging...

"Russia should brace for “attacks and sabotage operations” within its territory, Ukrainian military intelligence head Kirill Budanov told the Financial Times over the weekend. He mentioned the murder of a local official in Kherson Region as an example of these attacks, which was treated as an act of terrorism by the city’s authorities."

“Partisan activities” have been emerging within the territories Russia seized since the start of its military operation in Ukraine in late February, Budanov said, pointing to two explosions in Kherson Region, which borders Crimea, Russia.

"According to Budanov, these types of attacks will not be limited to territory that was once under Ukrainian control. Attacks and sabotage operations “are held everywhere, and they were and will be held in Russia and many other places,” he told the Financial Times. He did not say if Kiev is behind any of the incidents."

File under "How to increase Russian support for the SMO".

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 27 2022 17:33 utc | 5

They'll even blow themselves up to blame Russia. They did the same thing with the other shopping mall where they were hiding weapons, in the first month. Russia published drone footage after the event.
I don't really care anymore what they say. Zelly also said today, with Moldova's puppet president who visits Kiev, they are ready to attack Transnistria.

He's in a tv show where each episode is identical

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 17:35 utc | 6

@ the pessimist | Jun 27 2022 17:33 utc | 5

hard to know how they think this is going to further then interests, unless they are dyed in the wool nazis as russia suggests all along, which only confirms it here.. funny how the usa-nato and west like supporting terrorists on a regular basis..

Posted by: james | Jun 27 2022 17:52 utc | 7

So according to

BBC Breaking News
@BBCBreaking
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Shopping centre in east Ukraine with more than 1,000 people inside hit by Russian missiles, President Zelensky says

Yet
The Guardian
@guardian
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At least two dead as Russian missile hits shopping centre in Ukraine

Someone clearly did not get the Memo

Posted by: Down South | Jun 27 2022 18:02 utc | 8

No ambulances, no hundreds of survivors fleeing, no cars in the lot, ...

The MSM is either incompetent or supremely confident in the credulity of their (dwindling) audience.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jun 27 2022 18:08 utc | 9

According to the daily MoD report today a Ukraining BUK shot two S300 missiles of their own defenses in Kiev.
▫️Due to lack of interoperability between the launching ramps of the air defence systems and electronic facilities deployed in residential areas, 2 S-300 air defence missiles have been intercepted by Ukrainian Buk systems. One of the intercepted air defence missiles has presumably fallen down to a residential building.
I also read on a telgram channel that factory was hit in Kremenchuk by Russian missiles.
This shoppingmall attack is fake, just in time for the Nato summit in Spain. Some moral blackmail for more weapons likely.

Posted by: DutchZ | Jun 27 2022 18:10 utc | 10

@8

Most of these war stories are written by diversity hire in UK, James Bond offices. They email them to Zelly. If Russia doesn't do anything that day, they put the bomb or kill some people in Bucha. It's the same team of advisors trying to land on Snake Island just to make a little movie for the evening news.

But sometimes other news cancel the previous lies. That's not a problem for propaganda since people in EU, in a full hour, have already forgotten everything and 2 dead is just another story about bad Russians :)))

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 18:13 utc | 11

Ukraine doing their best to help with the shopping center propaganda event.

Ukraine said it feared scores of civilians might be dead or injured after a Russian missile strike hit a crowded shopping mall in the center of the country Monday.

More than 1,000 people were inside at the time of the rocket attack, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said.

“The number of victims is impossible to imagine,” he added in a post on the Telegram messaging app, sharing video that showed plumes of gray smoke rising above a building that was consumed in flames as people and first responders ran in front of it.

It's all over the front pages online and in print. Impossible to imagine. LOL, this one stinks.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 27 2022 18:19 utc | 12

No ambulances, no hundreds of survivors fleeing, no cars in the lot, ...

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Jun 27 2022 18:08 utc | 9

We used to call such events J-ish Lightening here in Canada. Tenant revenue must be way down, leases not renewed, etc.

Who was the owner? Was Larry Silverstein a consultant to the board?

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 27 2022 18:19 utc | 13

Well what I have noticed in the US is that they just aren’t trying any more and frankly they dont have to. Decades of conditioning have rendered the audience ripe and ready to all manner of translucent deception. The sad thing is i can point it out like: “Really! Look, it’s right there!” …nope-nada.

One set of images i found haunting was the skulls in the tire fire, as well as the roasted AR upper and the “singed” USAn passport card…..meeeep!

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 27 2022 18:19 utc | 14

Russia did NOT target residential building in Kiev - Pentagon.

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 18:21 utc | 15

@8

Front page, The Guardian.

'At least ten killed as Russian missile strikes shopping centre in Ukraine.'

Literally immediately below that:

'Russian missile strike: at least 2 dead.'

They can't even be bothered to get their lies to be consistent.

They're not even trying any more.

Posted by: Hidari | Jun 27 2022 18:24 utc | 16

Posted by: james | Jun 27 2022 17:52 utc | 7;
After a while I came to understand that the rulingclass of US/Nato/west don't care about moral issue's.
In their blind Russia hatred all they want is to destroy Russia politically, economically and militairely.Russia hinders them to reach the worldwide liberal hegemony. How dare they block the
"right"religion.
"The end justifies the means".

Posted by: DutchZ | Jun 27 2022 18:25 utc | 17

It is way more likely that the building in Kiev was hit by an Ukrainian air defense missile that missed its target but eventually fell back to earth.

According to RT (https://www.rt.com/russia/557906-moscow-strike-kiev-rocket-plant/ ), it was probably that:

The authorities in Kiev reportedly tried to intercept the Russian high precision missiles using anti-aircraft weapons stationed around the city, including S-300 and Buk M1 anti-aircraft missile systems, which reportedly launched 10 rockets during the strike.

The ministry also noted that due to the apparent lack of communication between the anti-aircraft defense systems located in the city, two [Ukrainian] S-300 rockets were shot down by Ukrainian Buks, one of which fell on a residential building.

So, the Ukies misfired their own missiles and then one of them hit a residential building in Kiev. After which, they blamed it on the Russians! And then this was duly reported by the Western presstitudes!!!

Posted by: Sam Smith | Jun 27 2022 18:27 utc | 18

Looking more and more like the UAF are effectively engaging in a mobile fighting withdrawal. Seems as if they are maintaining their fighting cohesion despite heavy casualties. B—will have to learn to temper his cheerleading with reflections on reality. On the one hand he shows a picture of damage to apt. Building saying it can not be a Russian cruise missile because it would have destroyed the building. Then to demonstrate the accuracy of Russian cruise missiles de shows a picture of a bridge damaged by a Russian missile which Failed to even break the rails connecting the bridge.
As I stated two weeks ago, it will be August-Sept. before Putins army gets to Zaporizhzhia.

Posted by: Wobblie | Jun 27 2022 18:33 utc | 19

geography / topo map, near Lisichansk oil refinery area (or anywhere else)

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=48.84200,38.29248&z=12

Posted by: ptb | Jun 27 2022 18:34 utc | 20

According to Southfront site:

The burning center turned out to be the Amstor shop located meters away from the workshop of the Kremenchug Kredmash Road Machinery Plant. Since 2014, the plant has been used for repairing military equipment for the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the Anti-Terrorist Operation against the population of the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics.

The Kredmash Road Machinery Plant was likely hit by several missiles and the blast wave set the shopping center nearby on fire.

Posted by: DutchZ | Jun 27 2022 18:36 utc | 21

Patrick Lancaster has a video up from Izum where the residents tell how the Ukrainian mayor announced that the city had been evacuated so the Russians bombed it, but 80% of the residents were still there. The evacuation effort had been completely muddled and disorganized with no effective communication to the residents or provision for proper evacuation. You can hear in the tone of voice how people hate that man (the mayor) who announced the evacuation completed and left them to die. Particularly the interview starting at 12:16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFv5jxInOc

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 27 2022 18:40 utc | 22

According to a book I recently read, "Secret Casualties of World War Two," something like a third of the fatalities and injuries attributed to the German Blitz on Britain were in fact caused by shells that the British fired at German aircraft.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 27 2022 18:43 utc | 23

According to a book I recently read, "Secret Casualties of World War Two," something like a third of the fatalities and injuries attributed to the German Blitz on Britain were in fact caused by shells that the British fired at German aircraft.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 27 2022 18:43 utc | 24

@19
Wobblie, too much drinking makes you have writing difficulties. come back next month

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 18:46 utc | 25

In response to james@7,

From what I heard, previous acts of terrorism were well received among the Ukrainian public. It's conceivable that further acts of this kind could be used to boost war-support and counteract war weariness among the public, so I wouldn't discount a morale boosting component. In terms of practical utility, it is mostly a distraction intended to put a strain on the effectiveness of civilian and humanitarian structures on Russian controlled territory. The idea is to make it more difficult for normal life to resume and to prolong the suffering of civilians for as long as possible.

It is, essentially, a continuation of the work conducted by the SBU in coalition with right-wing militias on Ukrainian occupied territory, rounding up and disposing of civilians and political figures whose future potential of cooperation with Russia is considered probable. Perhaps it's up to the same kill-teams that previously operated on these territories to act as stay-behind terrorist cells.

In response to Tom_Q_Collins@12,

Preliminary reports suggest that the shopping center was located adjacent to a vehicle repair station, and that the center itself has been closed since April. I can imagine that the number of victims directly correlate to the number of people working at the vehicle repair station.

Posted by: Skiffer | Jun 27 2022 18:49 utc | 26

Re: Flaming Malls and such.

It's actually an encouraging sign they're still lying to us. If it was truly game over, they wouldn't bother.

Posted by: jhill | Jun 27 2022 19:00 utc | 27

rk @ 25
I didn't notice any difficulties on Wobblies writing.
Just his opinions, with some facts to back them up.

Be interesting to see, what the situation is in Zaporizhzhia
in mid-august. Might be that his esimate is better than yours.
There have been some estimates concerning RF forces timetable in SMO, that have been, how should I put it, wildly optimistic.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 27 2022 19:00 utc | 28

Western media blaming Russia doesn't have that "kick" anymore, as all that is getting stale. People, who had watched the news now do something else or change stations, whenever they hear the word Ukraine. Some are already starting to worry about heating this winter. Most don't believe in their governments, well, except the inborn russo-hates. Nothing can cure them. By the way, this Kremenchuk shopping centre matter would only demoralise the Ukrainians themselves.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 27 2022 19:03 utc | 29

"On Saturday Russian bomber flying over the Caspian Sea fired four cruise missiles into the Artem missile factory in Kiev. The 'western' reporting claimed that some hit a civilian building:"

I've read that the Ukrainian forces are using civilian buildings infrastructure as military factories, the use of the building/s will almost be to mask what they are doing inside the building/s, informant intel must be good for the RF to know which civilian building/s are being used as military factories.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 27 2022 19:08 utc | 30

ostro @ 29
You seem to know well what westerners and ukrainians think. Let me guess, You are from Kiev or Warsaw? ;)

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 27 2022 19:09 utc | 31

Russia had great advancements today so bojo has ordered some fake news about those bad Russians. Watching tv in my country in natostan I see RU is completely defeated and ukr is "in shock", thousands dead in mall!!!
Operation is much faster but still slow, gives nato time to make more Bucha events. Remember when that idiot negotiator on RU side kept stopping so the nazis could receive supply? He did that for months. He and the slow generals should be in jail for life.

Also don't be surprised if nato explodes stuff in kiev, killing thousands. That is all they have left as options

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 19:12 utc | 32

Yeah the UK media has been reporting with much glee, that Russia has defaulted on its debts as usual the UK propaganda machine reports its own version of the truth.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 27 2022 19:16 utc | 33

@b

mhh i LIKE how you like the troll face sm,ash ,)

but well what is happening really now? Are the combined forces too much too bear? I mean those are still cubs...

Posted by: Macpott | Jun 27 2022 19:20 utc | 34

Russia could care less what "The West" thinks...

So could most of the rest of the planet...

The Globalists have overstepped...

Posted by: crone | Jun 27 2022 19:22 utc | 35

If I'm in the middle of a country at war you know what the first thing I think of is. Yep it's "Hey let's go to a mall and get some mall food from the food court". You know like a frittata's, or a slice of pizza or some MSG laden Asian food. Those Russians are so bad they cut off all utilities to the mall so I probably wouldn't get the ch... Wait, what.
I bet no one in Baghdad went to the mall after that shock and awe thing (probably didn't do much but pray really.) At least the western media at the time insured us that because of "smart" bombs innocent people didn't get blown up. It's all BS and propaganda.
Wait till the west can't go shop/looting on black Friday and the citizens start complaining. Maybe that's when they will turn on the losers in power. Probably not before.

Posted by: Craig | Jun 27 2022 19:22 utc | 36

kitaySupporter @4--

You are incorrect. I've been to many shopping malls within the Outlaw US Empire that have capacity for well over several thousand patrons, some with parking lot capacity for more than 1000 vehicles. An example, on any given weekend day at Mike Pike Marketplace in Seattle, several thousand people will be present. Even some of the smaller strip-malls I've seen can have 1K+ people there.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:23 utc | 37

A Russian missile hit a crowded shopping center in Kremenchuk in the Poltava region, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reported.
The western MSM shouts...and when they mention Zelensky, it means its utter BS!

Posted by: ostro | Jun 27 2022 19:24 utc | 38

And why did the British fire those shells at the overflying German aircraft, even though shells almost never brought an aircraft down, and the shells did such damage to the British? Because the British public demanded that something be done about the overflying aircraft.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 27 2022 19:26 utc | 39

And, when they mention Biden, BoJo, VD Leyen, The fat Wurst, Macron and so on from the unfriendlies, people know it is utter Bs!

Posted by: ostro | Jun 27 2022 19:30 utc | 40

Actually, many malls became pandemic casualties along with their retail "anchor" stores, and many had to find inventive ways to pay their debt instruments.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:30 utc | 41

TASS - Deputy Minister of Information of the DPR reports that since the beginning of the SVO, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have lost at least 50,000 soldiers, killed

Adding 2x-3x more wounded should be 150k-200k not fighting anymore. So they have no more army, except people taken by force from the street, mercenary and hidden nato troops. terrorism is the only thing left now. First they'll blow-up their own cities, then try Russia and Europe, as "revenge" for them and to blame Russia at the same time

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 19:34 utc | 42

G7 pledges to stay with Ukraine until the end
Under pressure to be united against Russia, the West promises support "for as long as it takes".
-BBC

Hospice...

Posted by: ostro | Jun 27 2022 19:36 utc | 43

@ DutchZ | Jun 27 2022 18:25 utc | 17

thanks for this and your other insightful posts..

quote from @ Sam Smith | Jun 27 2022 18:27 utc | 18 makes the most sense to me..

@ Skiffer | Jun 27 2022 18:49 utc | 26

that makes sense what you say.. i can't discount that here and given what we know of the ukraine leadership... i think the quote from rt by sam is more on target... doesn't make sense seeing mostly army - militia types in the video at the mall.. they likely fucked up and are using it as a propaganda chance..

Posted by: james | Jun 27 2022 19:44 utc | 44

Putin met with Lukashenko on the 25th and discussed many things, most not reported. But this bit was allowed to stand:

Lukashenko: I have a number of specific issues that I want to discuss with you: in the field of economics, as well as issues related to defense.

Mr President, we are very concerned about the situation and the policy pursued by our neighbours. You generally know that this is the leadership of Poland and the leadership of Lithuania. A policy of confrontation. And you have enough of them, especially in Ukraine: recently, the most mercenaries, as we notice, are from Poland. I don't understand why they need this, confrontation, but it is clear that they are standing behind, pushing and so on. But the policy is disgusting, the behavior is aggressive.

It's the same with Lithuania. Recently, there has been a growing flow of information about their plan to stop transit from Russia through Belarus to Kaliningrad, to isolate Kaliningrad. Listen, this is akin to declaring some kind of war, such things are unacceptable in modern conditions.

We are very concerned about the training flights of the United States of America and NATO aircraft, which are trained to carry nuclear warheads and nuclear warheads. It really bothers us.

So I ask you to consider a mirror response to these things, without overkill. They train them to carry nuclear warheads, and please help us at least adapt our aircraft that we have, the Su-35, I think, which can carry nuclear warheads. I am not saying that we will transport nuclear weapons tomorrow or you will transport nuclear weapons there, but we cannot joke, we remember 1941, when we were lulled to sleep: everything will be fine, everything will be quiet, no one will attack – and then we were not ready for this. Therefore, this is a very serious situation for us, and this is not the first time I have raised this issue with you. I know what you have considered in the Ministry of Defence.

I would like to hear how events will develop here. I do not hide the fact that I raise the question that we should be ready for anything, even for the use of the most serious weapons, in order to protect our Fatherland from Brest to Vladivostok. That is our immediate responsibility. And especially these trainings, as you also know about them, American flights with the use of NATO partners. If they are training, they probably think something, or why train?

In general, we must discuss a range of defence and security issues with you today, so that our people understand that they, Russians and Belarusians, are under serious protection....

Putin: As for security issues, yes, indeed, in Europe, the Americans have 200 nuclear tactical ammunition, mainly atomic bombs, 200 in six European countries – members of the North Atlantic bloc NATO. For their possible use, 257 aircraft have been prepared – and not only American, but also these countries, which I have mentioned....

You said that it would be possible to answer in a mirror way. It is possible, but you and I should probably not answer in a mirror manner, there is no need.

But I fully agree with you that we are obliged to take care of unconditionally ensuring our security, the security of the Union State, and perhaps of other CSTO countries.

Therefore, I propose the following: the Belarusian army is armed with a fairly large grouping of Su-25 aircraft, they could be retrofitted accordingly.

Alexander Lukashenko: 25th aircraft?

Vladimir Putin: Yes, the Su-25. They could be retrofitted. True, this modernisation should be carried out at aircraft factories in Russia, but we will agree on how to do this. And accordingly begin training the flight crew. That's the first thing.

And the second thing. As we agreed, you raised the issue of this, we have made a decision: within the next few months we will transfer to Belarus the Iskander-M missile and tactical systems, which, as you know, can use both ballistic and cruise missiles, both in conventional and nuclear versions.

I propose that we instruct the Defence Ministries and the Chiefs of The General Staff to work out all the details of this joint work.

Alexander Lukashenko: Yes, I agree absolutely.

Vladimir Putin: We have reached an agreement.

I excised some bits for clarity that IMO indicate this part of their conversation was choreographed for Western consumption since very little of substance was actually revealed--as usual.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:45 utc | 45

I suppose the last unipolar moment ended with the battle of Rocroi. Though I guess it was more like a message to the world that the times they were a changing. Severodonesk seems like a similar marker but we won't know for sure for a while.

Posted by: TheGreatCondee | Jun 27 2022 19:45 utc | 46

The MSM could literally show a smoking anthill and credulous hypnotized boob-tubers would gasp and say "omigod all the poor babies".

Posted by: Vincent Berg | Jun 27 2022 19:51 utc | 47

BASF to close biggest unit--NO GAS:

"German chemicals major BASF may be forced to halt production at the world's biggest chemicals plant in Ludwigshafen, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday, citing shortages of cheap and abundant Russian gas.

"According to the report, BASF has used Russian natural gas for years to generate power and as feedstock for products that make it into toothpaste, medicine, and cars. However, dwindling Russian gas supplies are proving a threat to the company's vast manufacturing hub, it says....

"With an area of approximately ten square kilometers, the Ludwigshafen complex spanning some 200 plants, accounts for about 4% of the total gas demand in Germany. Approximately 60% of the fuel used at the plant is meant to generate electricity, while the remaining 40% is feedstock for the production of chemical products, including ammonia and acetylene.

"BASF estimates that if the chemical complex continues to receive more than 50% of the maximum volume of gas, operations could be continued. Otherwise, the work of the complex will have to be stopped."

The number of jobs affected wasn't disclosed. Recall that this is but one complex among many affected by Germany's choice to cease imports of Russian gas.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:52 utc | 48

Re Kaliningrad railway situation, the pressure to act may have come from NYC.

""Business owners around Penn Station are racked with worry over Gov. Kathy Hochul’s plan to seize and raze properties in the area in order to make way for 10 new skyscrapers.""

""Up the street at 307 West 30th Street is a brownstone from 1876 that stores the genealogy records for more than 100,000 Lithuanians who moved to the US from 1886 to 2012.

The nonprofit Lithuanian Alliance of America (LAA) has occupied the brownstone for the past 112 years. The location was the first port of call for newly arrived Lithuanian immigrants before they boarded trains at Penn Station bound for coal mines in Pennsylvania, steel mills in Pittsburgh or stock yards in Chicago. ""

Link to NY Post

Posted by: 44Cadillac | Jun 27 2022 19:55 utc | 49

Iran and Argentina apply for BRICS. I'm somewhat surprised that it's just these two and not a few more from the roster I supplied, but they alone will be a major upgrade in numerous ways in what's clearly an assault on illegal sanctions placed on Iran.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:56 utc | 50

@pessimist | Jun 27 2022 18:40 utc | 22

Towards the end of his piece (link posted above) Patrick interviews a man in the Izyum hospital who is staunchly pro-Ukrainian. He asks the Russian reporter "What is your president doing? Why did he come here?" and talks about how people feel when their country is invaded. I suspect that this view is widely shared west of the contact line, along with fence-sitters who are not sure if life would be better under Russian management. The universal sentiment is that people wish the fighting to stop - common to all wars.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 27 2022 20:00 utc | 51

I STILL deont unserstand


russian so weak only a gas pipe

russia no knowledg, no chips made


but why can they fly in space ?!

Posted by: Macpott | Jun 27 2022 20:01 utc | 52

BASF's gas-related shutdown warning is likely a communication of unhappiness from big capital to German NATOheads. What other expressions from biz of a lack of confidence in NATO are we seeing?

Posted by: dadooronron | Jun 27 2022 20:02 utc | 53

Coming flashpoint between NATO and RF will be the Suwalki corridor or the Poland-Lithuanian border.

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1537885488257720321

Today Jens Stoltenberg announced NATO forces will be extended to 300K or full war strength. Allies don’t call up that number for a months long picnic.

Secretary General: NATO to agree “fundamental shift” in defence posture [clear-eyed terms attack mode]

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_197072.htm?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=natopress&utm_campaign=20220627_pre_summit

Lithuania performs as Boris Johnson’s attack dog on Belarus, Russia and China. Amnesty expressed their view on human rights in Lithuania in a scathing report.

Ahead of the NATO Summit in Spain, the knives are sharpened pointing to any dissenters in the group of thirty. Only Erdogan can spoil the fun for Johnson-Truss-Wallace and European lap dogs of Joe Biden. He conquered Western Europe in a unprecedented Blitzkrieg … incomprehensible. Goal is to call Putin’s nuclear “bluff”.

Read the analysis of warmongering think tanks across the NATO countries.

West cannot allow Putin's nuclear threat (repeated by Lavrov) to give Putin a 'nuclear pass' on Ukraine. If we do, Georgia (non EU) Finland (EU) plus could be next. Putin could apply that threat in every case. That's why Putin must fail in Ukraine. Ukraine is freedom's frontline.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 27 2022 20:02 utc | 54

@ karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:23 utc | 37
And all

Please, just GoogleMap and have a look on satellite view with coordonnate provided by b.

It's not this kind of mall. Just a small [10000sq.m] junk shopping center, in industrial park, close to railways and a parking lot for maximum 100 cars.
1000 customers? 🤔No way

But very close [200 m] of a big industrial complex https://kredmash.com/ua

Posted by: La Bastille | Jun 27 2022 20:06 utc | 55

Reuters is reporting that Ukraine is telling them that 11 people died in the "mall" bombing

Thanks for the Russia/Belarus reporting karlof1

I am one of those that keeps positing that the Ukraine military action will be over soon because I believe it is a matter of when, not if, that Russia will succeed in its goals against NATO.....assuming MAD doesn't happen.

Prolonging the inevitable seems counterproductive for the losing side because of the recriminations/blowback that will occur.

I just don't see humanity executing a protracted arms race given other challenges we face.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 27 2022 20:08 utc | 56

Tragic . No Escape from that hell. Unless one flies the white flag.

One group of soldiers? from country 404 . The Russians were chasing abandoned their weapons and swam across the river. Interestingly they were allowed to flee unharmed. The morale of the soldiers within that cauldron must be rock bottom by now.....

Back on the home front. Country 404 media is telling pure fiction and lies to the local population. Simultaneously Five -Eyes ministries of truth are all in automatic repeat lies from country 404 mode.

Such is life.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Jun 27 2022 20:09 utc | 57

You do know men are taken from streets, clubs or gas stations to be sent to death. I doubt there are many fence-sitters, they just don't have the money to pay the bribe to leave the country like the others

You should know that since 2014, a lot of soldiers sent to attack Donbass were selected from regions that belong to Romania and Hungary. They don't see all ukrainians equal, some are disposable

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 20:10 utc | 58

I have noticed that most barflys here don’t give a rats ass about working folks. A shopping mall can easily have a thousand wage slaves working away.

Posted by: Wobblie | Jun 27 2022 20:12 utc | 59

In the "mall bombing" video...

Why are their 10-12 men under 35, all looking in very good physical shape, simply standing around watching flames in the distance?
Why do several have no shirts on, and are sporting Tats, that unfortunately we can't discern?

Could this be a training center that was hit in the morning, as everyone was getting ready for breakfast?

Hmm....

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jun 27 2022 20:20 utc | 60

@54
I repeat, 300k is just free money for US. The host state pays for everything, not nato, it is not a free army.
300k will do what? Nothing, just sit and "protect" Europeans at billions per month. EU will pay for everything, US can't print more money so they take it from EU and replace Germany's exports with their own

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 20:21 utc | 61

@59


we are all from that... at least who speak true :)

Posted by: Macpott | Jun 27 2022 20:22 utc | 62

On the Lysichanske front.
I saw a map yesterday showing Russian BTG locations. There are some 60 BTG's north of the river. Far more than are attacking from the south.
When the attack stalls from the south, look for movement from the north (into Siversk), and another encirclement.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jun 27 2022 20:25 utc | 63

"Cluster bomb" and that term's variants end up routinely in Western 'reports' of Russian artillery or Russian strikes.
One wonders why, unless one is familiar with the phenomenon and workings of 'gaslighting'.

Posted by: bjd | Jun 27 2022 20:26 utc | 64

picture of a bridge damaged by a Russian missile which Failed to even break the rails connecting the bridge.

Posted by: Wobblie | Jun 27 2022 18:33 utc | 19

I'm 110% sure those bendy rails hanging on the air will support a military freight train 👌no problemo👌

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 27 2022 20:27 utc | 65

NATO to boost rapid-response unit from 40,000 to over 300,000 troops in apparent response to Putin's war


NATO's chief announced plans to increase its rapid-response unit from 40,000 to 300,000 troops, in a move apparently prompted by Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

"We will transform the NATO Response Force and increase the number of our high-readiness forces to well over 300,000," Jens Stoltenberg told a press conference in Madrid on Monday, according to Reuters.

He said this marks the "biggest overhaul" of NATO's defense units since the Cold War, Sky News' Deborah Haynes reported.

Stoltenberg's comments come days before a NATO summit in Madrid later this week, where the plan will be agreed, Haynes reported.

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 27 2022 20:29 utc | 66

I have noticed that most barflys here don’t give a rats ass about working folks. A shopping mall can easily have a thousand wage slaves working away.

Posted by: Wobblie | Jun 27 2022 20:12 utc | 59

Holy Blanket Generalization Batman!!!

Please research and read more carefully, a mall can have that many people and many large ones do. But not this small mall!

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.0725603,33.4260209,1185m/data=!3m1!1e3

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 27 2022 20:30 utc | 67

@ karlof1 | Jun 27 2022 19:52 utc | 48
I know Lu chemical plant very well. It's really The Big One. Probably 40000 workers!

But the numbers don't match.

NG flow is nearly nominal
https://gas.kyos.com/gas/eu
And storage fullness in EU is on an acceptable track.

Same in France


« Les dirigeants des trois énergéticiens français TotalEnergies, EDF et Engie appellent ensemble, dimanche 26 juin, les Français à réduire « immédiatement » leur consommation de carburant, pétrole, électricité et gaz face au risque de pénurie et de flambée des prix qui menacent « la cohésion sociale » l’hiver prochain.

« L’effort doit être immédiat, collectif et massif. Chaque geste compte », indiquent dans une rare tribune commune publiée par le Journal du dimanche (JDD), Patrick Pouyanné (TotalEnergies), Jean-Bernard Levy (EDF) et Catherine MacGregor (Engie),

"The heads of the three French energy companies TotalEnergies, EDF and Engie together call on Sunday, June 26, the French to "immediately" reduce their consumption of fuel, oil, electricity and gas in the face of the risk of shortages and soaring prices that threaten "social cohesion" next winter.

"The effort must be immediate, collective and massive. Every gesture counts,"
say Patrick Pouyanné (TotalEnergies), Jean-Bernard Levy (EDF) and Catherine MacGregor (Engie) in a rare joint statement published in the Journal du dimanche (JDD),

https://insolentiae.com/rationnement-en-vue-totalenergies-edf-et-engie-appellent-la-population-a-consommer-moins/


Manufacturing Consent?
The way they done it with Covid-19.
Or even worse


“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders….All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Herman Goering – Hitler’s Propaganda Minister

Posted by: La Bastille | Jun 27 2022 20:32 utc | 68

Ignore wobblie, he's a regular troll with no brain.

All bridges hit by missiles were hit at about a meter precision. Double bridges had only the train line destroyed. And zero fail rate

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 20:32 utc | 69

Posted by: 44Cadillac | Jun 27 2022 19:55 utc | 49

preposterous: First of all, Americans began colonizing Europe 150 years ago. Second, it was Cuomo's ideer over two years ago to evict the district. Lt. Kathy's check just cleared last week.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 27 2022 20:33 utc | 70

Posted by: dadooronron | Jun 27 2022 20:02 utc | 53

Russian Gas Cuts EU Russian Gas Embargo Threaten World’s Largest Chemicals Hub, 27 June
is the true headline. The rest of the story is behind the WSJ paid subscriber wall. I am not a WSJ subscriber.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 27 2022 20:41 utc | 71

@ Lysias | Jun 27 2022 19:26 utc | 39 Re:

"And why did the British fire those shells at the overflying German aircraft, even though shells almost never brought an aircraft down"

The main function of flak was to force the bombers to bomb from high altitude, thus reducing their accuracy considerably.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 27 2022 20:43 utc | 72

There are several potential problems now: Spitzbergen, Transnistria, Kaliningrad. I suppose Russia will have to abandon Spitzbergen, work there has become impossible, in fact there is a blockade and the Russians don't even get food and medicine anymore. Kaliningrad is easier, can be sustained by ship and plane. Transnistria is hard to tell. Moldova under the Americanized president seems to be closer to Ukraine than to its own compatriots in Transnistria.

Nato and the EU (is there still a difference, they seem like the military and civilian side of the same coin) is obviously trying to open another front.

I think Russia needs to find out how heavy weapons are still getting to the front. I read that Nato has specialized cells trying to smuggle weapons to their destination. If Russia has weather manipulation tech, they should produce lots of clouds that hinder satellites.

And what about that Snake Island? How many more attacks will the Russian installations there survive? Afaik there are no Russians on the island to maintain the equipment. Russian ships can't get too close to the shore because of the anti-ship missiles.

By the way, I read that according to a military insider it was France that sunk the Russian warship months ago.

Posted by: Nico | Jun 27 2022 20:45 utc | 73

@66 perimetr

Any idea where these troops are coming from? I've not seen any mention of their origin countries.

Posted by: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jun 27 2022 20:46 utc | 74

"We will transform the NATO Response Force and increase the number of our high-readiness forces to well over 300,000," Jens Stoltenberg told a press conference in Madrid on Monday, according to Reuters.

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 27 2022 20:29 utc | 66

I can only hope that they get blown to Kingdom Come the moment they give a funny look in the general eastern direction.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 27 2022 21:08 utc | 75

Webpage giving 503 and 524 errors

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 27 2022 21:23 utc | 76

Someone should count how many times our MSM says, 'Russian missiles hit school / hospital'. This reminds me of the 'Assad bombed last hospital in Aleppo ...' stories. Ukraine is wall to wall hospitals and schools.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jun 27 2022 21:24 utc | 77

There have been some estimates concerning RF forces timetable in SMO, that have been, how should I put it, wildly optimistic.

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 27 2022 19:00 utc | 28

ostro @ 29
You seem to know well what westerners and ukrainians think. Let me guess, You are from Kiev or Warsaw? ;)

Posted by: Joe6pack | Jun 27 2022 19:09 utc | 31


Let me guess, to know that timetable you are in the Kremlin.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jun 27 2022 21:25 utc | 78

"We will transform the NATO Response Force and increase the number of our high-readiness forces to well over 300,000," Jens Stoltenberg told a press conference in Madrid on Monday, according to Reuters.

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 27 2022 20:29 utc | 66

One wonders how many of those troops will come from the recent diversity of immigrants.

If they are anything like Canada, they have a long way to go to achieve equality.

https://www.straight.com/news/1322361/canadian-armed-forces-wants-more-visible-minorities-indigenous-people-military

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 27 2022 21:33 utc | 79

re: ThusspakeZarathustra | Jun 27 2022 20:46 utc | 74

Sorry, no idea where these additional 260,000 troops will come from. The story hasn't seemed to hit US MSM yet, although I see now that Reuters posted an article on it

NATO to Boost Troops on High Alert to Over 300,000 -Stoltenberg

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - NATO will boost the number of troops on high alert by more than sevenfold to over 300,000, its secretary-general said on Monday, as allies prepared to adopt a new strategy describing Moscow as a direct threat four months into the Ukraine war.

Russia's February invasion of Ukraine has sparked a major geopolitical shift in the West, prompting once neutral countries Finland and Sweden to apply to join NATO and Ukraine to secure the status of candidate to join the European Union.

"Russia has walked away from the partnership and the dialogue that NATO has tried to establish with Russia for many years," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said in Brussels ahead of a NATO summit later this week in Madrid.

"They have chosen confrontation instead of dialogue. We regret that - but of course, then we need to respond to that reality," he told reporters.

The June 28-30 NATO summit comes at a pivotal moment for the alliance after failures in Afghanistan and internal discord during the era of former U.S. President Donald Trump, who threatened to pull Washington out of the alliance.

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 27 2022 21:33 utc | 80

@Perimetr | Jun 27 2022 21:33 utc | 80

"Russia has walked away from the partnership and the dialogue that NATO has tried to establish with Russia for many years," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said in Brussels ahead of a NATO summit later this week in Madrid."

Hilarious. These people have no shame.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 27 2022 21:37 utc | 81

"We will transform the NATO Response Force and increase the number of our high-readiness forces to well over 300,000," Jens Stoltenberg told a press conference in Madrid on Monday, according to Reuters.

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 27 2022 20:29 utc | 66

One wonders what percentage of new NATO troops will be from recent immigrants seeking to defend their adopted homeland.

If the Canadian Military is an indicator, they have a long way to go to achieve statistical equality.

https://tinyurl.com/y4ntb3ju

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 27 2022 21:39 utc | 82

It appears as though the lisichansk oil refinery is under the control of allied forces. If true that Makes the cauldron almost impossible to escape.

Posted by: caption | Jun 27 2022 21:42 utc | 83

For those interested in the broader regional context and especially the historical roots and current thorns in relationships see this excellent post by S in the week in review thread:

Posted by: S | Jun 26 2022 18:10 utc | 16
and this link in S post.

Thank you S for an illuminating post.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 27 2022 21:46 utc | 84

If those German aircraft had been able to bomb from a lower altitude, how much more damage would they have done? They certainly would have killed less of the British civilian population.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 27 2022 21:46 utc | 85

@71
Basf said that if Ru gas stops, they'll close big big factory.
In US, Century Aluminium closed. energy too expensive. They were the largest supplier of us army, the article said

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 21:47 utc | 86

Just two articles about Russian military performance. Also remember that adage "one man's heroism is another side of someone else's f-up"

https://rg.ru/2022/06/27/vzvod-sderzhal-dve-roty.html

https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1125167

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 27 2022 21:53 utc | 87

And, in judging whether the flak made any sense, do bear in mind that it was responsib!e for one third of the deaths and injuries from the Blitz.

Posted by: Lysias | Jun 27 2022 21:54 utc | 88

Any attempt to encroach on Crimea will lead to a declaration of war on Russia, if a NATO country does it, World War III will begin

- Dmitry Medvedev

Posted by: caption | Jun 27 2022 21:55 utc | 89

I don't know. If I were to get some of that interest payment, I would preferred to get it in rubles. The way euro and dollar are heading, combined with their inflation, ruble looks like a far safer investment...

Default my ass...

Posted by: Erlindur | Jun 27 2022 21:55 utc | 90

@ psychohistorian | Jun 27 2022 20:08 utc | 56 Re:

"I just don't see humanity executing a protracted arms race given other challenges we face."

Your reserves of optimism appear inexhaustible.

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 27 2022 22:01 utc | 91

As b correctly predicted a week or so ago, the West is escalating.

I am getting worried at the total lack of reasonable and rational voices at this point. It seems that the leadership in the West is confident that they will be able to get the support of the people whatever they do. They are probably right, I see absolutely no cracks appearing.

Hitler and Goering had the same confidence then. This is the road to WW3.

Posted by: alek_a | Jun 27 2022 22:02 utc | 92

. . .from kyivindependent it's Sunday Night Live!

President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his nightly address that a strike on a mall in the city of Kremenchuk was deliberate and is “one of the most daring terrorist acts in European history.” “Peaceful city, ordinary shopping center, women inside, children, ordinary civilians. This is not a mistaken hit of missiles. This is a planned Russian strike at this shopping center," Zelensky said. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 27 2022 22:03 utc | 93

There seems to be a conclusion that this is all about well over 300,000 ground troops. The 40,000 original number may be this new figure seems to have swept in as many 'related trades' as possible, namely SF, cyber, maritime, land and air domain operatives, in order to create a memorable PR figure.

Posted by: JohninMK | Jun 27 2022 22:04 utc | 94

That is why many pension funds in us are in rubles but were paid in usd. Americans will get rubles from now, thanks to Biden gang.
BTW, conversation between Biden and Hunter were published today. There's audio too. It involves money, Russian hookers and China

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 22:04 utc | 95

@Posted by: caption | Jun 27 2022 21:42 utc | 83

The military summary channel update today at 4pm EST - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzDQMHxu3s - states that the Russians may be in the process of assaulting the Lisichansk oil refinery but have not yet taken it.

Did you get another update saying that it had been taken? If so, it would be amazingly fast progress and say a lot about the state of the Ukies defending it.

Posted by: Roger | Jun 27 2022 22:06 utc | 96

Another testament to the accuracy of Kalibrs. As a girl is showing the path of a missile she just saw hit the target, another one hits the same spot: video. Almost looks like she’s a cyberwitch casting a Kalibr. The girl is saying (in Russian, as usual): “Fucking fuck! I just saw a missile fly in there… (incomprehensible)

Posted by: S | Jun 27 2022 22:06 utc | 97

@93
Yes, remember biden wanted to place Russia on terrorist sponsors list. It's that story again, zelly working today all day

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2022 22:10 utc | 98

@ Republicofscotland | Jun 27 2022 19:08 utc | 30

From IntelSlava (my emphasis)

...all 4 Russian missiles reached the target...the civilian infrastructure of Kyiv as a result of the use of high-precision weapons didn't get hurt.
At the same time, the Kyiv regime tried to intercept Russian missiles deployed in the city of anti-aircraft weapons, according to the Ministry of Defense. According to him, the Ukrainian S-300 and Buk M1 fired more than 10 anti-aircraft missiles, but due to the lack of interface between the launchers of air defense systems and radio equipment located in urban areas, two S-300 missiles were shot down in the air by Ukrainian Buk . Presumably, one of the downed anti-aircraft missiles fell on a residential building, according to the Ministry of Defense.

Posted by: OttoE | Jun 27 2022 22:11 utc | 99

@ Lysias | Jun 27 2022 21:46 utc | 85

The Germans didn't have heavy bombers and weren't really capable of the massive terror bombing of cities that the allies engaged in later in the war. The Luftwaffe usually targeted docklands and industrial areas during the blitz. Later in the war they did deliberately target civilian areas as revenge for the allied attacks on civilian target, the so-called Baedecker raids.

"The Baedeker Blitz or Baedeker raids were a series of aerial attacks in April and May 1942 by the German Luftwaffe on English cities during the Second World War. The name derives from Baedeker, a series of German tourist guide books, including detailed maps, which were used to select targets for bombing.

The raids were planned in response to a devastating increase in the effectiveness of the Royal Air Force's (RAF) bombing offensive on civilian targets after the Area Bombing Directive (General Directive No.5 (S.46368/111. D.C.A.S), starting with the bombing of Lübeck in March 1942."

(Wikipedia)

Posted by: MarkU | Jun 27 2022 22:17 utc | 100

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