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June 6, 2022
How Russia Can (And Will?) De-NATO-size Europe

In a video published yesterday Gonzalo Lire, currently under house arrest in Karkov, is asking a very interesting question:

What Happens To Europe When Russia Wins? (vid)

Lira states, and I agree with him, that Russia will win the war in the Ukraine, take the south and east to likely create a new country and leave the rest of the cadaver for Poland, Hungary, Romania, Lithuania and others to feast on.

But then what?

The U.S. controlled NATO will still be there. It is practically guaranteed that the U.S. will use it to push for revenge for the loss of Ukraine. This will be done by a steady buildup of troops and long range missile capabilities along Russia's Nordic and Baltic borders and additional naval threats in the northern Arctic as well as the southern Black Sea. Some ten years from now the U.S. would be able to again try to wage a big (proxy) war against Russia. Then with a decent chance to win.

No negotiations or peace agreements will prevent that. The U.S. is famously non-agreement-capable (недоговороспособны). It has broken ALL promises and agreements it has ever made with Russia.

Dozens of U.S. and European luminaries had promised to Russia that NATO would expand 'not one inch' towards Russia. Look where its borders are now. The U.S. and the EU have confiscated huge amounts of Russian state owned money. They have even taken, in contradiction to their own constitutions, the properties of private Russian citizens just because those persons happen to be Russian.

In 2014 Germany and France signed on to guarantee elections for a peaceful regime change in Kiev. A day later the fascists stormed the Ukrainian parliament and those guarantees turned out to be totally worthless. The U.S. simply said fuck the EU. It does not give shit about European interests. Germany and France later negotiated and signed the Minsk-1 and Minsk-2 agreements. They continued to feed billions of EU money into Ukraine even as the Ukrainian government, controlled by the U.S., did nothing to fulfill them. Yes, they were that stupid.

The U.S. has installed 'missile defense' systems in Poland and Romania which are in fact designed to lob Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles (IRBM) onto Moscow. These are a serious danger to Russia.

Even after Ukraine is finished, NATO and its EU proxies will continue to be a danger to Russia. Both have proven to be unable to keep promises. Russia in consequence will have to rearrange them.

Russia could do that by force. But there will be no march towards Riga, Warsaw, Berlin or Paris. (Remember that Russia has been there and done that which every time has led to major changes in Europe.)

Russia has announced its strategic aims. In December 2021 Russia set forth two agreements which the U.S. and NATO. They included demands for a future arrangement in Europe that would guarantee indivisible security for all. On January 21 2022 the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was to meet Secretary of State Anthony Blinken in Geneva to talk about Russia's proposals. Just minutes before that meeting the Foreign Ministry of Russia held a news conference to answer media questions:

Question: What will Russia’s demand that NATO return to the 1997 framework mean for Bulgaria and Romania? Will they have to leave NATO, remove US bases from their territory, or something else?

Answer: You mentioned one of the cornerstones of Russia’s initiatives. It was deliberately set forth with utmost clarity to avoid any ambiguity. We are talking about the withdrawal of foreign forces, equipment, and weapons, as well as taking other steps to return to the set-up we had in 1997 in non-NATO countries. This includes Bulgaria and Romania.

Reuters reported:

MOSCOW (Reuters) – The security guarantees that Russia seeks from the West include provisions requiring NATO forces to leave Romania and Bulgaria, the Russian foreign ministry said on Friday.

Moscow has demanded legally binding guarantees from NATO that the bloc will stop its expansion and return to its 1997 borders.

Replying to a question about what that would mean for Bulgaria and Romania, which joined NATO after 1997, the ministry said Russia wanted all foreign troops, weapons and other military hardware withdrawn from those countries.

After more than 20 years of watching Lavrov and Putin everyone should know that they do not publicly set out aims if they have no way to achieve them. They always have well thought out plans before announcing their goals.

So how can Russia actually achieve a retreat of NATO back to its 1997 borders?

Sanctions. The U.S. has used its economic and military powers to sanction this or that country that did not do as it was told to do by Washington. Unless enacted by the UN Security Council such sanctions have no basis in international law. Despite that the U.S. even used secondary sanctions. It threatened sanctions against Europe, and everyone else, as it ordered them to not deal with Iran or Venezuela.

Alan MacLeod @AlanRMacLeod – 22:45 UTC · Jun 5, 2022

The US is thinking about "allowing" Europe and Venezuela to trade together. Think about what this story tells us about global power relations and who is in charge.

Bloomberg @business – 12:13 UTC · Jun 5, 2022

The US could allow Eni and Repsol to ship Venezuelan oil to Europe as soon as July to make up for Russian crude, Reuters reported trib.al/fQ10QlX

Russia can do similar. But as it always follows international law, it will have to do it in a slightly different way.

Russia is a superpower in that it produces all kinds of raw materials the world, and especially the 'west', needs. Europe, and especially Germany, is depending on natural gas and oil from Russia. Energy prices in Germany will at least triple if it is completely cut off from Russian supplies.

German industry leader have loudly announced that they will have to close shop if the current European policies of restricting Russian energy supplies continues. The chemical giants BASF and Bayer will have to move to some other country. Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW will have to stop all production in Europe. Steel production would fall to zero. Lack of fertilizer would lead to dependency on foreign agriculture.

Mass unemployment would follow. Millions will be in the street to protest against rolling blackouts, freezing apartments and hyperinflation.

Russia can achieve this at any time. It simply has to stop supplying gas and oil to Europe.

Despite six European 'sanction packages' against Russia there has yet to be a reciprocal response from Russia. It may still hope that European leaders will recognized the deadly game the U.S. is playing with them.

Unfortunately the leaders of Europe are dumb and compromised. The 'olive green' German Minister for Economic Destruction Robert Habeck still dreams of bringing Russia's economy to its knees even as the ruble rises and Germany's economy is falling apart. Chancellor Olaf Scholz was never the brightest bulb in the room. He is deeply compromised through his involvement in the Wireguard scandal. He was the Minister of Finance when reports of the company's billion dollar fraud were suppressed by his ministry. And don't get me going about Ursula van der Leyen who has been proven to be corrupt and incompetent ever since she took her first public office. U.S. secret services will know of many other crimes these people have been involved in.

The current ideological leaders of Europe will have to be replaced by clean ones who follow the German tradition of Realpolitik:

Realpolitik (German: [ʁeˈaːlpoliˌtiːk]; from German real 'realistic, practical, actual', and Politik 'politics'), refers to enacting or engaging in diplomatic or political policies based primarily on considerations of given circumstances and factors, rather than strictly binding itself to explicit ideological notions or moral and ethical premises. In this respect, it shares aspects of its philosophical approach with those of realism and pragmatism. It is often simply referred to as "pragmatism" in politics, e.g. "pursuing pragmatic policies" or "realistic policies".

Only with new and decent leaders will Europe come to its senses.

Russia can help to achieve that while at the same time solving its NATO problem.

It can publicly declare that:

THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER RUSSIAN SUPPLIES OF ANY KIND TO EUROPE UNTIL IT BREAKS WITH WASHINGTON.

What would follow?

Millions of discussions under candlelight would be held in freezing and hungry European households. Political opinions would change. Governments would be replaced with more pragmatic ones.

France and Germany would either have to leave NATO or become impoverished and irrelevant. U.S. troops on European grounds would be asked to leave or be attacked and thrown out by an enraged public. Germany would prohibit the U.S. military from using its airspace. The U.S would lose its grip over the continent.

That can't happen? Well, Gonzalo Lira disagrees and so do I. In early February, before the Russian intervention in Ukraine, I had warned of the consequences of current 'western' policies:

The U.S. strategy to 'fix' Russia in Europe by imposing 'crushing sanctions' on it to then attack China is failing. That is because it was completely misconceived.

Russia is the most autarkic country in the world. It produces nearly everything it needs and has highly desirable products that are in global demand and are especially needed in Europe. Russia also has huge financial reserves. A sanctions strategy against Russia can not work.

The consequences for Europe were obvious:

The U.S. and its proxies in the EU and elsewhere have put up very harsh sanctions on Russia to damage its economy.

The final intent of this economic war is regime change in Russia.

The likely consequence will be regime change in many other countries.

All energy consumption in the U.S. and EU will now come at a premium price. This will push the EU and the U.S. into a recession. As Russia will increase the prices for exports of goods in which it has market power – gas, oil, wheat, potassium, titanium, aluminum, palladium, neon etc – the rise in inflation all around the world will become significant.

[Russia and China] have spent more brain time on the issue than the U.S. has.

The Europeans should have acknowledged that instead of helping the U.S. to keep up its self-image of a unipolar power.

It will take some time for the new economic realities to settle in. They will likely change the current view of Europe's real strategic interests. 

Europe is fortunate in that Russia, even before re-entering the Ukraine, has offered a very decent alternative to U.S. hegemony in Europe:

A man who has Putin's ear, Professor Sergey Karaganov who is the honorary chairman of Russia’s Council on Foreign and Defense Policy, has written an op-ed that points to an alternative.

The piece was requested by and supposed to be published in the Financial Times, which means that it is directed at the European leadership. But the FT has now rejected it for unstated reasons. It was then published in the Russia in Global Affairs journal and has now been re-published by RT.

[Karaganov] states:

The security system in Europe, built largely by the West after the 1990s, without a peace treaty having been signed after the end of the previous Cold War, is dangerously unsustainable.

There are a few ways to solve the narrow Ukrainian problem, such as its return to permanent neutrality, or legal guarantees from several key NATO countries not to ever vote for further expansion of the bloc. Diplomats, I assume, have a few others up their sleeves. We do not want to humiliate Brussels by insisting on repudiating its erroneous plea for the open-ended expansion of NATO. We all know the end of the Versailles humiliation. And, of course, the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

But the task is wider: to build a viable system on the ruins of the present. And without resorting to arms, of course. Probably in the wider Greater Eurasian framework. Russia needs a safe and friendly Western flank in the competition of the future. Europe without Russia or even against it has been rapidly losing its international clout. That was predicted by many people in the 1990s, when Russia offered to integrate with, not in, the continent’s systems. We are too big and proud to be absorbed. Our pitch was rejected then, but there is always a chance it won’t be this time.

That last paragraph is the gist of Russia's real strategic aims. They require to destroy the current system of U.S. hegemony over Europe. Europe will have to be de-NATO-sized. Regime changes in European countries will probably be necessary to see to that.

Russia's leaders now have a once in a century chance to achieve those aims. They will be condemned by their compatriots if the refrain from doing so. The U.S. has no way to prevent or counter a Russian sales boycott and its consequences.

When will European politicians, or those behind them, finally wake up to those facts?

Update (11:45 UTC):

A soundbite from a press conference Lavrov is currently holding:

Russian Embassy, UK @RussianEmbassy – 11:41 UTC · Jun 6, 2022

FM #Lavrov: To all appearances, no one is going to even reform #NATO. They are going to turn this “defensive alliance” into a global alliance claiming global military dominance. This is a dangerous path that is definitely doomed to failure.

Comments

Quick Thank you! for james and his 3-part article.

Posted by: CM of Berlin | Jun 7 2022 10:12 utc | 301

Some different takes on the Severodonetsk front:
History Legends – balanced, historical-military perspective?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPk2nUK7q8
Anti Empire- Not pro Ukrainian per se, but perhaps anti Putin in its pro Russian stance?
https://anti-empire.com/french-volunteer-in-donetsk-forces-is-fed-up-with-pro-russian-pundits-and-their-rose-tinted-bs/
Southfront – nuanced pro Russian?
https://southfront.org/decisive-battle-for-severodonetsk-gaining-momentum-videos/

Posted by: Et Tu | Jun 7 2022 10:12 utc | 302

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 6 2022 18:29 utc | 137
Slavyangrad, [05/06/2022 18:31]
Sladkov on Major-General Roman Kutuzov
CORPS COMMANDER ROMAN KUTUZOV: THE FOURTH RUSSIAN GENERAL TO DIE IN BATTLE.
In regards to our losses of generals in the Donbass. It’s a shame, he was a good man. A ‘native’ of the Airborne Forces. We became friends when he was the commander of a regiment.
On the one hand, again a general led the attack. As if there aren’t enough colonels (majors, captains, sergeants…). But on the other hand, Roman was like any other commander, albeit of higher rank.
Now tell me, how is it with Ukraine? AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine] go on the retreat, and then what? They’re trying to pass a law allowing Ukrainian commanders to shoot subordinates who won’t go into battle. Whereas our general gets up and, by his own example, leads soldiers into the attack.
https://t.me/Sladkov_plus/5614

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 7 2022 10:27 utc | 303

I disagree. Instead of “no more supplies …” it needs to be a counter-sanction. 15% extra for NATO membership. 15% extra for EU membership. 20% extra if the country has been directly involved in training and personnel in Ukraine.
Basically, what I am saying is a graduated response that hurts the sheep in the EU a little and the ringmasters in the EU a lot. This means the UK.
Russia needs to completely gut the UK and the rest of EU will fold easily.
The Russians need to get to the source of the problem which is the UK royal family.
Posted by: imoverit | Jun 6 2022 19:44 utc | 165
It does not work that way, but close. With a status of “not unfriendly country”, the oil and products from Russia, Iran and Venezuela are available at a discount. The status requires to “defy sanctions”. Nobody can impose “tax on oil and gas”, but the price differences will create differences in inflation pressures and competitiveness. India has to worry about its competitive status in respect to China, and Eurasian geopolitical balance — and to some extend it is true for the rest of South and Southeast Asia.
Mind you, while ideological bias, approaching theological, can be strong, business decisions are often decided by small cost differences that are extrapolated as “trends”. I had a little dialog about someone here who made a glaring mistake (math) in respect to German trade balance, so I did some checking. The fabled surplus, not to mention solid state finances, are gone (or long gone with state finances). So industry relocates, initially, across the border, Poland, Czechia, Hungary, with small logistic difficulties of different parts being produced in different places. But transportation and communication is efficient, you move production to other continents: Central Europe suffers from utility costs and retain welfare state overhead that would be perhaps lower in Bangladesh, India, Malaysia, etc. Companies are OK, workers and the national budget balance: not so much. Scandinavians etc. are in the same boat. How many world financial centers like London can you have to clip percentage from transactions and replace industry with “service economy”? Welcome to Rustbelts (which exist in countries with world financial centers).
Central Europe may suffer from similar pressures as American south, perhaps magnified. Industry hopped there, but often with another jump to China, Brazil etc.
Discounts oil and gas are not the whole story. Consider the time and cost needed to build a nuclear power station in Bangladesh or Egypt versus Finland, USA and UK (and France?). Both seem double! This divide can also have Hungary and Slovakia on one side, Poland and Czechia on the other. Other forms of non-carbon energy have similar issues. The least cost solar panels are produced in Xinjiang, presumably with “forced Uighur labor” (isn’t someone insane?). So there are price choices: from China, from Malaysia with Chinese parts, or “pure”. Wind energy may have similar issues.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 7 2022 11:02 utc | 304

Sorry but this is just fantasy. Some European governments may fall but they will be replaced with “somebody who’s solid” to put it in Biden’s words. The CIA has been in the business of compromising and controlling European politics for 75 years. They have pockets full of corrupt politicians who will do that they’re told, even as their nations’ people starve.

Posted by: Captain Phoebus | Jun 7 2022 11:02 utc | 305

@Et Tu, @302;
Ironically the French DPR volunteer (ex-para officer) repeats a frustration which I also saw on the Ukrainian side about Severodonetsk and misleading pronouncements.
Anyway he is right. Money quote:
I confess to being tired of seeing with what narcissistic immaturity certain pro-Russian analysts who want to be the first to announce Russian victories at any cost, even that of a lie, impose on their public stupid and even unproductive fantasies.
Rooting for a side and even physically participating in the conflict must not be done at the expense of truth and rational analysis.
And all those saloon pundits who have been ranting for 100 days announcing every week the imminent rout of the “disintegrated”, “demoralized”, “unfit” Ukrainian army in the face of a “perfect”, “invincible” and “overwhelming” Russian army should learn humility, avoid confusing ideological dogma for rational analysis and above all stop taking people for greater idiots than they are!

Another source of neutral analysis is Military Summary on YT; here his summary of developments for the 06.06.2022.
He illustrates the difficulties Allied forces have in relatively small scale operations.
Patrick Lancaster in a recent video here visits DPR troops (not frontline) and it is interesting to note how their commander openly complains about lacking such basics as radios. The sniper unit is composed of relatively old men with Moisin-Nagants.
Posters here or elsewhere dreaming about RF forces taking the whole of Ukraine and then even further are on some powerful drugs in my opinion.
Remember the war of attrition goes both ways. So what if the RF have a 3-1 or 4-1 kill ratio? If the Ukrainians can field 3-4x more cannon fodder than the RF then they can drag the war out long enough until RF forces (who are remember, professionals not conscripts) lose initiative.
At least that is the theory.
People like to dunk on Strelkov but IMO he saw this coming. You can’t do successful invasions on the cheap, as the US discovered in Iraq.

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 7 2022 11:03 utc | 306

facts in evidence
Posted by: juliania | Jun 7 2022 3:39 utc | 263
Savvy! turn of phrase– as pertains to the procedural crime drama tentativiely titled, People v Lira; as pertains to mathematical calculation of a future event, ie. probability

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 11:03 utc | 307

“They (Russians) planted explosives throughout the fields. ”
Unlikely to mine agriculture fields. Most likely a ukinazi tactic.

Posted by: osi | Jun 7 2022 11:12 utc | 308

de-NATOfy Europe? Easy exercise. The industrial elite knows since a while that the current setup is primarily an undeclared war by the US against Europe and Germany, in particular. They know about the crash to come and about the plan to aquire European assets for a penny the Dollar.
The politicl elite in Europe lost any credibility in the population, the mass media as well. They won’t be able to save the narrative. This autumn, the double whammy of skyrocketing energy prices, exploding unemployment, mounting vaccination damages (deaths and worse) will cumulate (the German Koch institute stopped publishing data on serious hospitalisations and deaths broken down by vaccination status because those boostered are making up by far the largest group of seriously hospitalised people – The Paul Ehrlich Institute hid their VEARS-Like data at the EU and refuses to publish any data vaccination damages amonge the age group 5-16 – they know why. That won’t go unnoticed. The moneypox (sorry, monkey pox, that says what they think about us people) won’t work. People increasingly refuse the next booster, and see the death and disabled toll rising in their social networks.
Russia likely knows a lot about who organised that scam and who profited. Even the Ukrainaian biolabs are telling a lot already. It only has to tell the truth via channels bypssing the massive information blockade. Politicians, medical, juridical and media establishment has alrealy lost all its reputation, they will fold like a card house when the storm brakes loose.

Posted by: Kassandra | Jun 7 2022 11:12 utc | 309

Yes, kick the door in and the whole rotten house will collapse, or something along those lines?
Replace the corrupt US controlled political elites with who, exactly?
No socialist or communist parties – no alternative ideologies – no independent communications or media infrastructure.
At best you get populists such as Orban.
Any change will occur on the periphery and the south.
Northern and CE parts of the EU will cling on to what they know for as long as Uncle Sam insists.

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 7 2022 11:17 utc | 310

“he cannot be trusted”
To do what?
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 7 2022 1:59 utc | 254
He should not be trusted to present subject matter expertise. He can be trusted to deliver (weighted by the preponderance of MoA respondents’ approval of episodic LiraTalk) “informative” monologue.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 11:26 utc | 311

I can’t get SCO here
Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 7 2022 4:33 utc | 275
LOL! I dropped into the thread there and initially read SCO as Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), given all “eurasia” chatter preceding it prompted by the lede story, “How Russia Can (And Will?) De-NATO-size Europe”. ooo boy howdy, am I out of step with geopolitical leadership in multipolar universe! Shame on moi.
Let’s recap the number of bridges to be saved or burned:
UN, WTO, CIS, OSCE, OIC, EEU, UTL, ECO, SCO, CSTO, APEC, ASEAN, EAS, IPEF, NATO PfP, QUAD, UNSC, IMF, G20, G7, …

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 11:46 utc | 312

Gonzalo Lira – the self-promoting loudmouth bigot – providing anti-Ukraine commentary while under “arrest” in Kharkov? Give me a break.
Posted by: Trisha | Jun 6 2022 13:57 utc | 38

Exactly my thought since the beginning.

Posted by: Olivier | Jun 7 2022 11:50 utc | 313

The main points from Putin’s statement at a meeting on economic issues:
▪️ In the first four months of 2022, industrial production in Russia added 3.9%;
▪️Positive dynamics is noted in agriculture and construction;
▪️ The unemployment rate is falling, in April it was 4%, and in May it decreased a little more;
▪️ Russia succeeded in bringing inflation under control, now it is at zero, price growth in Russia has stopped since the second half of May;
▪️ The situation in the foreign exchange market is stable;
▪️ In May, the volume of retail trade in nominal terms increased by 5.4% compared to the same period last year;
▪️ From June 1, pensions and the minimum wage, as well as the cost of living, have been increased by 10%;
▪️ Work has begun on the federal budget for the next three years. Putin instructed the government to submit proposals for a new design of budget rules by July.

Posted by: ostro | Jun 7 2022 11:55 utc | 314

People who need “trust” in their info sources are people who are unwilling or incapable of doing their own thinking. People who need “trust” are just looking for thoughts that they can simply drop into their own heads unprocessed. That is bad policy. One should always process the information they consume. If one makes this a habit then one can even glean useful information from the New York Langley Times and the Washington Bezos Post.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 7 2022 11:55 utc | 315

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 6 2022 23:24 utc | 232
“…for the most part, the vast majority of people residing within the geographic west have nothing to do with The West as it too is their enemy.”
In that post you narrowed “The West” down to less than one tenth of one percent. Unless you had spelled it out I never would have guessed that meaning. So I think it would be better to use a different term from the get-go which is why I always say something like ‘the elites running the US’ or some such so as to distinguish between that class and the ordinary citizenry.
I also increasingly suspect that at the level of the highest echelons of these ‘elites’ that nations have no borders. They operate within such jurisdictions only as a matter of legal necessity but their networks are international, ‘global.’
These days I wonder if the current break underway between the West and the rest will be happening on the elites level or not? Will the seamless collusion between Big Pharma, Fauci / NIH, USG, WHO, Chinese, Ukrainian and US biolabs etc continue or is this sort of thing soon to end?
Because if it continues I think it hard to assume only good intentions on the Eurasian elites side and only bad intentions on the Western elites side. In other words is this coming Reset global or just for us?
Meanwhile, apparently millions in Africa face looming starvation this winter due to all these clearly manipulated shenanigans…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 12:07 utc | 316

Russia has frozen $17 billion from Western investment banks. Among them: JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Barclays, Bank of America, Citi.
A total of 6,489 Ukrainian soldiers have already surrendered – Shoigu

Posted by: ostro | Jun 7 2022 12:07 utc | 317

@ William Gruff | Jun 7 2022 11:55 utc | 315

People who need “trust” in their info sources are people who are unwilling or incapable of doing their own thinking.

Thank you, that is exactly right! Requiring “trust” is a form of appealing to authority, a logical fallacy.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 7 2022 12:09 utc | 318

Piotr Berman @ 245
No, you have not watched. Upper end new construction. No home handyman about it.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 7 2022 12:17 utc | 319

That’s fancy, expensive cabinetry. Someone can identify.apartment by it.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Jun 7 2022 12:21 utc | 320

Posted by: ostro | Jun 7 2022 11:55 utc | 314
Talk about WINNING!

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 12:25 utc | 321

French Volunteer in Donetsk Forces Is Fed Up With Pro-Russian Pundits and Their Rose-Tinted BS
I am fed up with Erwan Castel comments.
Another comment:
Oscar Peterson says
11 hours ago
Wow–a “French Volunteer” has time to write a long critical disquisition on coverage of the war. What exactly did he volunteer to do?

Erwan was badly wounded during the 8 years liberation war of Donbass.
Now he is writing bad about other pro-Russian French people like Xavier Moreau. When everyone should pull at the same rope…
Publishing videos to show how the enemy is strong is exactly what the ukronazis want.
And here of course the trolls are quoting defaitist people with pleasure.

Posted by: Olivier | Jun 7 2022 12:27 utc | 322

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 7 2022 12:09 utc | 318
“Trust” is an inate probability function, denoting iteration (frequencey) of event x, on which nearly all sentient creatures rely to adapt their behavior to known (ie. observed, memorable) set of conditions.
0 <--50 --> 100
distrust <--mistrust-->trust

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 12:36 utc | 323

Indeed, trust comes from the leap of faith with open eyes, and successful recurrences grace us with peace. Justice is to be blind, not Faith, and the double edged sword of Judgment allows us to walk that razor’s edge. To do otherwise is to get lost in the maze of contagion thinking and cynical apathy, where ever tighter knots of purity tests spiral you into active madness or all opinions equalized lead you to enervated confusion. Making sense of the world requires more out of us than team jersey loyalties.

Posted by: JR whenDallasdreamt | Jun 7 2022 12:39 utc | 324

the leap of faith with open eyes
Posted by: JR whenDallasdreamt | Jun 7 2022 12:39 utc | 324
Whence an obsession, reiterated in philosphical epistemology worldwide, with ways and means human beans are said to reveal “truth” from the appearance of this, that, and other phenomena, say, “quantum mechanics” LOL!

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 12:50 utc | 325

Only a fool underestimates his opponent.
Erwen’s blog can be found here. Automatic translation services work well for me. He has some credibility and seems cogent to me. Who is Xavier Moreau? Some desk analyst in Moscow, yes? Why is he relevant?
I have some confidence in the professionalism of the Stavka and the RF; but fantasies of the RF “taking all of Ukraine” and “rolling NATO back to 1997” are just that.
It seems obvious to me that: the West engages in massive logistical and intelligence support; the RF does not have full air supremacy over Western Ukraine; new large army formations are being formed West of the Dneipr by the UAF; there will be a strong general counter-offensive by these units in some weeks or months; cannon fodder are being used in Donbass to hold the RF off until then.
What could defeat this plan are large-scale surrenders by those cannon fodder who do not wish to sacrifice themselves for oligarchs and Western imperialists.
A new political order in the EU requires consciousness of an alternative political ideology, which does not exist – yet.

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 7 2022 12:53 utc | 326

The cabinetry and layout reminds me of extended stay business apartments, and in his latest videos particularly of S. Korean manufacture. Extended Stays tend to be more modern and furnished, including flatware and kitchenware, so the electric kettle and other comfy amenities is not a surprise to me. Not that it matters, but I am not troubled or confused by its looks. If he was released but to remain accessible, an Extended Stay of some sort (usually staffed with service and cameras everywhere on premise), makes easy sense.
That said these repeated trials are detracting from what I feel is better discussion content, so I won’t bother further with this nervous speculation. Use your better judgment and live with it. After months the belaboring seems a bit much by now, almost calculated.

Posted by: JR whenDallasdreamt | Jun 7 2022 12:54 utc | 327

Posted by: JR whenDallasdreamt | Jun 7 2022 12:54 utc | 327
iirc, the “truth” advanced by early adopters of LiraTalk (as might be observed by brodadcast scenery, before the substitution of ICONIC headshot) was hotel suite residence somewhere in Khark*v.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 13:03 utc | 328

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 7 2022 12:53 utc | 326
You write too much gibberish, mate: “…new large army formations…” – what is the evidence for their expected effectiveness, exactly? what are they replacing – the cream of the crop of the ukranian army being methodically grinded to dust in Donbass. Admit it, it’s just a wishful thinking on your side so you can cope with the reality.

Posted by: Bloke from block 8 | Jun 7 2022 13:07 utc | 329

appeal to authority is not always a logical fallacy. if every legitimate military expert agrees that Russia is winning the war, and as far as I know that is true, it is legitimate to appeal to that authority if somebody asserts it is not true because Joe Biden says so. It’s kinda like climate science, which is not a religion.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 7 2022 13:35 utc | 330

Posted by: Olivier | Jun 7 2022 11:50 utc | 313
as long as he is presenting a reasonable argument, what does it matter? if he represent a danger to anybody, it would be to any contacts he has that the Ukrainian gestapo is interested in.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 7 2022 13:37 utc | 331

Posted by: moaobserver | Jun 7 2022 11:03 utc | 306
I wonder whatever happened to Micron. shortly after having a conversation with himself, in which he mostly agreed with himself, he disappeared.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 7 2022 13:39 utc | 332

1/ Three new pieces at http://johnhelmer.net/ today. One eviscerating Matt Taibi, the second on Anna Akhmatova the Russian poetess from Odessa. And the third a joke about Olaf Scholz- the Gustav Noske of our time
2/ “..No socialist or communist parties – no alternative ideologies – no independent communications or media infrastructure.
At best you get populists such as Orban.
Any change will occur on the periphery and the south.
Northern and CE parts of the EU will cling on to what they know for as long as Uncle Sam insists.”
moaobserver@310
It is rarely that I agree with this poster but he is close to the target here. Almost the entire EU is governed by soft fascists, of whom Orban is one, and US agents wearing grandad’s old Waffen SS uniform.
Then there are the “technocrats” such as Draghi, Petainists like Macron and in Spain and Germany caricatures of social democrats. Of alternative political movements there are, currently, none.
Making things particularly dire is the existence, throughout the NATO world of faux opposition in the form of anti-vaxxers, anti-semites, and other forms of irrationality. In place of reasoned, principled opposition to governments hurrying us into fascist subservience we have Punch and Judy shows like the Battle of Ottawa featuring fools, bankrolled by the Koch Bros, versus the Liberal Party, financed by the rest of the Stock Exchange.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 7 2022 13:39 utc | 333

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 7 2022 2:49 utc | 257
The thing is he makes valid points by skimming off, ie profitting off other people’s analysis without giving credit. He reads MoA, Saker, Martyanov, Mercouris, NakedCapitalism etc. He is smart and knows how to synthesize informations. A bit of a free-rider. Take Mercouris who always gives credit when making a point. Whoever reads the aforementioned names doesn’t have to listen to Lira.

Posted by: v | Jun 7 2022 13:39 utc | 334

James Fallows is truly an idiot. The only reason to read Fallows or The Atlantic is to see what the enemy is thinking.
Just now saw that various comments above did not work without reading a bit of Fallows and was shocked to see how much Alastair Crooke had borrowed/quoted Fallows.
If scum like Fallows can see that the jig is up the game has ended. We get to watch final resolution and terms of surrender. The enemy has no morale left when Fallows jumps ship.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 7 2022 13:39 utc | 335

@302
bleh, far too much talk, too much repetition. Russia/DNR/LNR are advancing, sometimes in convoluted ways to solve problems posed by Ukraine’s thorny but not impossible defenses. The cards are on the table, to repeat, what’s happening will keep happening until at the very least DNR is cleared.
Maybe Kiev really wants to make a stand there (realistically, try to drag out its fighting for another 3-5 weeks instead of 1-3 weeks). Maybe as long as UA maintains the Lisichansk position (and, avoids getting semi-encircled from the South) this forces RF to maintain the Popasnaya position in its current somewhat vulnerable state, and the resulting attritional concept that Kiev’s sponsors want. Maybe they have some wild plan in mind, like a move on Transnistria or another army of Polish mercenaries to try more seriously in Kherson. Maybe there is no master plan, and Kiev simply wants a few more weeks to prepare defenses for the next battlegrounds down the line, while the leaders look around for someone besides themselves to take the blame, when that inevitable time comes.

Posted by: ptb | Jun 7 2022 13:42 utc | 336

@Maiobserver 326 & Broke 329
As for Broke,I do not see likelihood of Ukraine being in a position to build new large army formations and more to launch counter-offensive within next few months…Quite fanciful for me.
Also, I do not see the evidence to claim that Russia Air Force has no air dominance in Western Ukraine…who else would ?
For me the Donbass battle will take any necessary time, but after that, there will be no defense infrastructure left to slow the Russian Army, which is in no hurry at all to invade the rest of Ukraine.
The move to open Odessa and other Ukrainian ports now with the help of Russia and Turkey in order to allow export of grain from Ukraine shows that Russia is in no harry to conquer Odessa region and build the link to Transnitria.

Posted by: Daniel | Jun 7 2022 13:52 utc | 337

This is from the Saker. It is clear and wise. It should appeal especially to the ‘spiritually’ inclined.
http://thesaker.is/the-very-special-operation/

Posted by: bevin | Jun 7 2022 13:55 utc | 338

Ok, lets assume you are right and the Russians do clearly state that Europe has to break with Washington in order to prevent being cut off from Russian ressources. And the Europeans overthrow their governments.
Then the US will have lost Europe. Others will follow, the petrodollar will seize to exist, the US will be bankrupt and finished.
You know what will happen next. You don’t want any huge nuclear armed power on its knees, it will launch its missiles. We are fucked. Unless we somehow get rid of the crazy Western “elites”. And even then we’d still have to deal with the Chinese and their ambitions.

Posted by: Chris K | Jun 7 2022 13:55 utc | 339

Russia is pulling off a geopolitical game changer, one for the history books:
Amerika has gotten and stayed rich by the banking cartel (aka their rulers) printing credits into public and private sector MIC accounts (which includes Intelligence/Media of course) with which to enrich those corporations, trickle down jobs and maintain geopolitical hegemony – money backed by muscle. The problem is that they are way over-extended and after half a century on top and with endless fifth column sabotage both the elites and the population are deluded and dumbed down, the words ‘effete’ and ‘decadent’ come to mind.
Meanwhile Russia, not enjoying Ruble hegemony despite being a huge raw materials supplier, has just started a ‘special military operation’ which involves fighting without a declaration of war (neat trick, eh?!) and in 3 months has all its finances in order in fact doing better than ever making money hand over fist, unemployment decreasing, ruble strong and stable, politics stable, popular support through the roof, reputation in the 80% non US-axis world rising ever higher – in short, getting rich.
But not by printing money into its MIC like with the US model.
Neat.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 13:59 utc | 340

@Maobserver 326
Thierry Moreau is indeed a French analyst based in Moscow
https://lemediaen442.fr/xavier-moreau-bulletin-n86-offensive-cent-jours-apres-le-debut-de-la-guerre-5-juin-2022/
He publishes weekly videos on the Ukrainian crisis , covering many aspects, with a French minded approach, and sympathy with Russia

Posted by: Daniel | Jun 7 2022 14:02 utc | 341

Re Lira. I do not see the reason for all the angst
The gist of what he is telling us since the early days has not much changed. He still has a pro Russia outlook in as much as he still believes that inevitably Russia will win an is winning this contretemps.
I used to follow him in the past, more so for the lively comments in the chat than for his actual commentary but whether you believe In him or not is immaterial. Do you agree with his logic or dialogue. If a Comedian tells you 2+2=4. Do you suspend your belief in basic maths just because a chap with large feet said so.
My own suspicion is that Lira is indeed being held hostage but his keepers are in on his gig. Know he makes a living from his blog and are keen to keep him going …for a cut. They know he will dwindle down to 0 followers if he makes an abrupt 180 deg turn in narrative. Nothing to get upset about. The only time you need to have belief in a speaker is if he is your pastor

Posted by: DaVinci | Jun 7 2022 14:07 utc | 342

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 11:46 utc | 312
Sorry for the confusion sln2002. But I haven’t been able to view SCF for so long I forgot the 3LA (3 letter acronym).
And I don’t guess many of us are trying to hook up with the Saskatchewan College of Opticians either.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 7 2022 14:07 utc | 343

Lira, Lira, Lira, Lira, Lira.
I don’t watch him, or for that matter, much of anything, because
–it’s easier to critically evaluate a written argument than a verbal one; and
–watching vids takes TOO MUCH DAMN TIME.
(And honestly, who really wants to spend hours on end looking at Lira’s mug?)
This isn’t to say that his commentary isn’t worthwhile — but I’m under the distinct impression that I can read similar insights as articulated by others.
I’ll make an occasional exception for Martyanov because his vids possess the same qualities as his prose: intelligent analysis and wit.
In this context, continued thanks to karlof1 for reproducing the texts of speeches, interviews, etc. by Putin, Lavrov, etc.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 7 2022 14:14 utc | 344

Also from the Saker and probably already familiar to many is Hudson back on the familiar and crucial theme of debt repudiation.
“… Financial and trade sanctions are as destructive as military attack. So the Global South is morally justified in putting its sovereign interests above those of the wielders of international financial and trade weaponry.
“First, reject the sanctions and reorient trade to Russia, China, India, Iran and their fellow members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). The problem is how to pay for imports from these countries, especially if U.S. diplomats extend sanctions against such commerce.
“There is no way that Global South countries can pay for oil, fertilizer and food from these countries and also pay the dollar debts that are the legacy of U.S.-sponsored neoliberal trade policy subject to U.S. and eurozone protectionism. Therefore, the second need is to declare a debt moratorium – in effect, a repudiation – of the debts that represent loans gone bad. This act would be analogous to the 1931 suspension of German reparations and Inter-Ally debts owed to the United States. Quite simply, today’s Global South debts cannot be paid without subjecting debtor countries to famine and austerity.
“A third corollary that follows from these economic imperatives is to replace the World Bank and its pro-U.S. policies of trade dependency and underdevelopment with a genuine Bank for Economic Acceleration. Along with this institution is a fourth corollary in the form of the new bank’s sibling: a replacement for the IMF free of austerity junk economics and subsidy of America’s client oligarchies coupled with currency raids on countries resisting U.S. privatization and financialization takeovers.
“The fifth requirement is for countries to protect themselves by joining a military alliance as an alternative to NATO, to avoid being turned into another Afghanistan, another Libya, another Iraq or Syria or Ukraine.”
http://thesaker.is/is-us-nato-with-wef-help-pushing-for-a-global-south-famine/
Since heavily gunned Portuguese ships first sailed into the Indian Ocean more than five hundred years ago, western Europe and its colony in the west have been extorting money from international trade, by controlling the sea lanes.
Eurasia offers, in the form of the BRI, a cheaper, more efficient alternative which is why the descendants of the Duke of Albuquerque are desperately trying to put up barriers on the land between the Baltic and Black seas.
The primary victims of this new Iron Curtain being the inhabitants to the west of it cut off from their natural suppliers to the east.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 7 2022 14:14 utc | 345

Haven’t been following the Lira issue. Some videos I enjoy, others not so much. He’d make a great university professor, that’s for sure. Very good at presenting an idea in an entertaining and well structured way.
That said: who runs Ukraine?
The US via Intelligence of course.
So Lira could be someone whose job is to suss out Russian sympathizers in Ukraine by running an anti-NATO vlog -or something like that.
Of course it could be nothing like that.
Either way: we don’t know.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 14:16 utc | 346

@ pretzelattack re micron
User “Micron” made a couple of comments on 5 June, two to be exact, after his faux pas of 3 June — but otherwise has been mercifully scarce.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 7 2022 14:19 utc | 347

A 20 year effort on the strategic and economic fields will be enough for the undeniably huge task. Undertaken of course by the Peking/Moscow axis with a few secondary pushes fm the global south.
Yes, we trust it will simply bcs the foundations of western goals are irrational and rely on dust and sand.

Posted by: augusto | Jun 7 2022 14:23 utc | 348

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 7 2022 14:07 utc | 343
no apology needed. I was teasing myself.

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 14:46 utc | 349

Posted by: bevin | Jun 7 2022 13:55 utc | 338
“This is from the Saker. It is clear and wise. It should appeal especially to the ‘spiritually’ inclined.
http://thesaker.is/the-very-special-operation/

I think he is bang on with: “This is why it took so long, eight years, to carry out the necessary painstaking preparations for the Operation, in view of the high probability that the West would refuse to get off its high horse of hubris and negotiate like reasonable people do.” I too am convinced this SMO only took place this year finally because they really weren’t ready earlier. Lots of ducks to line up first…
Niggle: but I do wish he’d stop using the term ‘anglo-saxon’ to describe the West, or rather the elites running the West. It’s weird whether he’s referring to the City of London, the East Coast WASPS, West Coast upper crust, Americans in general or whatever.

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 14:49 utc | 350

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 14:49 utc | 350
Would you prefer “White Supremacists”? LOL!

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 14:53 utc | 351

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 14:53 utc | 351
“Would you prefer “White Supremacists”? LOL!”
Well, it would be more fun at least!
Westerners in general, of course, have a superiority complex, but one not really all that different from all other major races or civilizations. We just happen to have been on top for a while after the industrial revolution and the British (machine gun assisted) Empire so during this period a ‘we are the chosen or superior ones’ attitude seemed accurate. Once the primacy ends, though, so too will that sense of superiority. Witness: Germans, French, Brits, Danes, Swedes, Spanish, Italians, Japanese, Koreans, no end of different African Kingdoms and so on – even China for a while. Our turn soon….
Probably he just doesn’t approve of the Saker’s much more interesting and accurate term ‘Anglo-Zionist’ for religious reasons given he’s an Orthodox priest so he’s changed it to ‘Anglo-Saxon’ instead which is a little silly.
But anyway…

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 15:12 utc | 352

The latest news on fighting in Severodonetsk, it looks like a replay of Mariupol:
Slavyangrad, [05/06/2022 21:49]
Severodonetsk 05/06/2022
1. Fighting continues in the area of the Azot chemical plant industrial zone. The enemy also maintains communication with Lysychansk through one of the damaged bridges—heavy equipment passes there with great difficulty, but vehicles pass [more easily].
2. The transfer of reinforcements from Lysychansk to Severodonetsk, after the Ukrainian Armed Forces had surrendered almost the entire city, made it possible to stay in the Azot area and start battles in the adjacent residential area, while Ukrainian sources themselves admit that there is no ambition to recapture Severodonetsk. The fighting will accordingly continue in the industrial area, and part of Severodonetsk will soon turn into an analogue of Mariupol in terms of destruction of high-rise buildings and other residential buildings, taking into account the active work of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ artillery in Severodonetsk.
3. It is unlikely that the command of the RF Armed Forces planned to storm Lysychansk head-on after taking the industrial zone of Severodonetsk. The real assault on Lysychansk will come when they break through the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Privolye and Ustinovka, advancing to the outskirts of the city—regardless of what will happen in the [Azot] industrial complex.
4. Of key importance for all these battles is the struggle for the Artemovsk-Lysychansk highway, since control over it will ddevalue any efforts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to hold Lysychansk and Severodonetsk, unless, of course, there is a plan to sacrifice the entire grouping of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as all the foreign mercenaries who were abandoned to hold the Azot industrial zone.
5. So far, the RF Armed Forces have ensured complete fire control over the route, which has already affected the supply of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. But there is no complete block on the highway yet, so individual vehicles and groups are still passing; however full-fledged supply, which was possible back in the first half of May, can no longer be ensured, despite all efforts to push the RF Armed Forces away from the area of Belogorovka and Berestovoye. The current task of the RF Armed Forces in this direction is to grind the enemy’s reserves in the upcoming battles and cross the Artemovsk-Lysychansk highway.
6. Naturally, the activity of the RF Armed Forces in the direction of Seversk is also expected, since taking under fire control (which is not yet achieved) the Artemovsk-Seversk-Lysychansk highway will lead to the notorious operational encirclement of the Severodonetsk grouping, which will simply lose the ability to re-supply through Artemovsk, and any retreat will entail serious losses.
7. Therefore, in the near future, on the one hand, we will observe positional battles in the area of the Severodonetsk industrial zone and high-intensity battles north of Soledar.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7660013.html
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/1252

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 7 2022 15:19 utc | 353

Scorpian#346…or he could be an American citizen under house arrest in the Ukraine.
Agree he’d make a great Prof.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 7 2022 15:21 utc | 354

international treat norms law rules-based order UPDATE NPT edition
Ukraine opposes IAEA visit to Russian-occupied nuclear plant

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Rafael Grossi, said on Monday his agency was preparing an expert mission to the Zaporizh*ia nuclear plant, the largest in Europe and now occupied by Russian forces.
Grossi said on Twitter the visit was arranged after Ukraine had “requested” it. But Ukraine’s nuclear agency, Energoatom on Tuesday accused Grossi of lying and said it did not greenlight the visit.
“Ukraine did not invite Grossi to visit the Zaporizh*ia plant and refused to let him make such a visit in the past. The visit to the plant will only become possible when Ukraine takes back control of the site,” Energoatom wrote on Telegram.
“IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi is lying again,” Energoatom said. “We consider this declaration a new attempt to gain access to the Zaporizhzhia power plant to legitimize the presence of the occupiers and approve their actions.”

lolwut

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 15:29 utc | 355

Posted by: Scorpion | Jun 7 2022 14:49 utc | 350
Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 14:53 utc | 351
“Plutocracy.”

Posted by: John Kennard | Jun 7 2022 15:40 utc | 356

I don’t watch him, or for that matter, much of anything, because
–it’s easier to critically evaluate a written argument than a verbal one; and
–watching vids takes TOO MUCH DAMN TIME.
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 7 2022 14:14 utc | 344

100% – the written word is a much better medium for analytical and critical thought. It is easy to skim the boring, repetitive parts and distill the essence.
With video, skimming is almost impossible. There are very few with the speaking skills to hold the listener’s attention. I tend to drift off before they get to the point.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Jun 7 2022 15:40 utc | 357

@ aquadraht | Jun 7 2022 6:08 utc | 288 / bemildred
it is odd, but i am able to access strategic culture . org today…. but when i go to hit the link on the story i shared earlier – i get this – 403 Forbidden
В доступе на страницу отказано.. at any rate – you are correct aqiadraht.. it opens in tor… thanks… an extra step, but it is worth it..
@ Barofsky | Jun 7 2022 15:19 utc | 353
thanks… that is what i am getting off the telegram channels…

Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 15:44 utc | 358

@ Opport Knocks | Jun 7 2022 15:40 utc | 357
i very much agree with you and malenkov…. in fact i talk about this frequently… it seems there are those who like to ”watch” with there eyes, and those of us who prefer to ”read” transcripts and etc… i do find this difference in people quite fascinating… i much prefer reading for a number of reasons.. on that note, i started reading the book ”a history of ukraine” by paul robert magocsi – written in 1996… the book seems quite good.. very early in the book he articulates the different historical perspectives… these are –
the russian historical viewpoint
the polish historical viewpoint
the ukrainian historical viewpoint
the soviet historical viewpoint..
i think this is very important to understand… history is much more complex then anyone would like to let on.. anyway – it is my new 675 page book that will probably take me a few months to get thru at the pace i go.. i have another couple on the go at present too..

Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 15:50 utc | 359

i very much agree with you and malenkov…. in fact i talk about this frequently… it seems there are those who like to ”watch” with there eyes, and those of us who prefer to ”read” transcripts and etc… i do find this difference in people quite fascinating… i much prefer reading for a number of reasons..
Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 15:50 utc | 359
That is indeed an interesting difference among people, it cuts across all sorts of other differences in people too. The internet favors movies, reading is out of fashion, not new. I prefer to read when I want information too. Movies are too slow, a sentiment I see here and there. One reads music too, and computer programs, and recipes.
The whole controversy about Lira for example, goes right over my head. There are lots of people doing what he is doing, some more prominently than others. They pop up like mushrooms.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 7 2022 16:11 utc | 360

MarkU | Jun 7 2022 3:40 utc | 264
Information operations are already conducted, in the case of Ukraine with entire production teams.
The problem is: these operations are drab, witless, dumb, primitive and entirely without any sense of humor and these adjectives are aptly descriptive of the current state of Western Civilization in general.

Posted by: bottle | Jun 7 2022 16:14 utc | 361

You can fix many problems with some duct tape
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/16249

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 7 2022 16:18 utc | 362

@ bemildred…. i find it fascinating…. the controversy about lira is partly about this – for sure.. i don’t ”’watch”’ him, because i don’t ”’watch”, but READ!! if someone has something relevant to say – great! otherwise, i am not into getting caught up in all of it… i like slow movies – which are typically foreign movies…. i generally don’t watch them, but my wife has got me watching murder mysteries and they are typically quite good, or we just stop watching them! the killing – a danish series and -wisting, a norwegian series.. both are quite good… that is the extent of my ”watching”… i will sometimes watch military analysis, but i generally hate watching this..
i have youtube on right now – but i am listening, not watching! its on another channel!
i think this poster summed up my thoughts on lira quite well –
“I have no issue with what Lira is saying, but his backstory defies logic.
Posted by: Gigo | Jun 7 2022 8:59 utc | 300”

Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 16:20 utc | 363

@james | Jun 7 2022 15:50 utc | 359
We are entering a new age of illiteracy in which people can read but don’t beyond text messages, tweets and facebook posts.
With this the ability to follow a reasoned argument is lost putting the rabble into a state where it can be manipulated at will.
Interestingly this description increasingly applies to “university” graduates.

Posted by: bottle | Jun 7 2022 16:27 utc | 364

My first post to this blog following the Russian invasion was, essentially:
“NATO is gone”.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jun 7 2022 16:39 utc | 365

Eh. Maybe second. I was as surprised by Russia’s move as were all the other observers and analysts, here.

Posted by: PPacifica Advocate | Jun 7 2022 16:43 utc | 366

@ bottle | Jun 7 2022 16:27 utc | 364
i agree and in fact, i think university students are the worst!! the whole concept of critical thinking has been put in the trash can…
check this video in the link on ‘the dangers of education”. the guy sums up my thoughts on this…
https://plandemicseries.com/education/
@ Pacifica Advocate | Jun 7 2022 16:39 utc | 365
yes – but it is still here too! it needs to be gone asap..

Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 16:45 utc | 367

on that note, i started reading the book ”a history of ukraine” by paul robert magocsi – written in 1996… the book seems quite good.. very early in the book he articulates the different historical perspectives… these are –
the russian historical viewpoint
the polish historical viewpoint
the ukrainian historical viewpoint
the soviet historical viewpoint..
[snip]
Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 15:50 utc | 359

Magocsi . . . Hungarian name . . . maybe that explains it. Back when I was doing Austro-Hungarian stuff I learned quickly that I needed to learn Hungarian. Why? All of the Austrian sources quoted other Austrian sources, and all of the English-language sources quoted the Austrian sources — whereas the Hungarian sources quoted both the Hungarian and the Austrian sources. Apparently everyone west of the Leitha decided that Hungarian sources weren’t worth reading because they were in Hungarian (the sources not old enough to be in Latin, that is).
In the same way, I doubt many of our Western “Russia experts” can read Russian. Why bother with the language of the Untermenschen?

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 7 2022 17:00 utc | 368

re: watching movies and listening to music
Good directors and composers know how to use time effectively: suspense, surprise, frustration/satisfaction of expectations. Tarkovsky and Mahler may be slow, but they’re not boring!

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 7 2022 17:05 utc | 369

Re Gonzalo Lira, there’s only one thing worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
Went to Dartmouth, notorious CIA recruiting grounds, now on safari in Ukraine. I enjoy his stuff, he can be a hoot.

Posted by: Oh | Jun 7 2022 17:09 utc | 370

@ Oh | Jun 7 2022 17:09 utc | 370
“Gonzo” seems to be the flavor of the day.
It seems strange to me that b is according him such s strong voice, but regardless of one’s predilection towards “Gonzo” and his immature 4-chan-like (?like?) following, he does draw a strong group who don’t want to buy into stupid Western (Clinton/Koch/Rockefeller/Gates/Bush/Cheney/CIA/FBI/DIA/NSA)
narratives, all seeded in the YS coprocate media.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Jun 7 2022 17:37 utc | 371

Oh @ 370
Yes. You get it. With his background, father in diplomatic service, he would be an obvious recruit. If he declined he still knows the people. Simply knowing and being known might please CIA as much as an actual recruit.
He married a Ukrainian woman ten years ago. Is that a safari? Could be, long timelines are normal and useful.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 7 2022 17:38 utc | 372

On Russia’s self reliance: Russia has a lot of resources. This does not make it self reliant and I don’t know whether it is. In order to make a car you need to support a huge upside down tree of providers who each have their own providers. In a good networked system there are plenty of replacements. In a simpler society the trees are not deep and the nodes have less branches.
Resources are all the way at the endpoints of the tree. Take away the resources and you can break a society but having the resources without the manufacturing network is not enough either. You may be able to assemble a car and have the natural resources to create all the parts but you also need all the steps in between.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jun 7 2022 17:52 utc | 373

@Tuyzentfloot | Jun 7 2022 17:52 utc | 373
This is exactly correct.
The combination of Russia + China + Taiwan is almost fully self contained.
What’s missing is the chip-manufacturing equipment manufacturers (Applied Materials and ASM Lithography) as well as chip manufacturing software (Cadence design etc).
Once the Chinese have figured this out they will be fully independent.
Classical chips will still be needed and for military purposes relatively primitive chips are totally sufficient.
The Chinese have already developed their own chips for supercomputers (which are not a sophisticated as Western ones but more energy efficient overall and that is the decisive metric here).
Moreover the Chinese are trying to leapfrog this technology by moving into quantum computing and AI in a big way.
AI also only needs more primitive chips (but huge clusters).
High precision numerical calculation (Intel/AMD chips leading) is not needed here.
In short: the trends toward AI and quantum computing tend to bypass the advantage the West has in chip manufacturing.
Once this has to come to fruition, the West will be left behind for good.

Posted by: bottle | Jun 7 2022 18:10 utc | 374

Another possible scenario – Ukraine resistance completely crashes, leading to Kiyev destabilization => Zelenski run away,followed by Moscow’s puppet installation. Perhaps current military drills in Belarus is a sign that Lukashenko will be involved in near future into such process.
Moscow won’t recognize Poland’s occupation. Rumors says that Polish armed forces are already deployed to some limited extend in the West Ukraine.
The war for sure was triggered by USA to start at specific date when they declared their support for Ukraine to join NATO. Seems, leaving Afghanistan was part of a plan to mitigate Pentagon’s vulnerability that could come from multiple frontline fighting amid insecure logistics. USA intentions to create worldwide mess around while keeping its land safe depends on internal politics too, which doesn’t seem too stable.
Interestingly, Ukraine keeps saying that Germany didn’t supply most of mil equipment it promised. Why? One could say that Germany is quite interested in fast Ukraine collapse. Perhaps.

Posted by: asehi | Jun 7 2022 18:51 utc | 375

User “Micron” made a couple of comments on 5 June, two to be exact, after his faux pas of 3 June — but otherwise has been mercifully scarce.
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 7 2022 14:19 utc | 347
Maybe that user has resurfaced as “Millimicron”?!

Posted by: David Levin | Jun 7 2022 18:54 utc | 376

@299 Dun Groanin – Should we call February 24, 2022 “Z Day”?

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 7 2022 19:02 utc | 377

FZappa | Jun 6 2022 22:08 utc | 208
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Great idea. Russia could form an inverse NATO; call it SATO, South Atlantic Treaty Organization, and declare the same open-door policy as US/NATO: each country has the right to join. It could start by inviting those “unamerican” countries excluded from the Summit of the Americas, Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua, and extend it to other Latin-American countries whose presidents boycotted the summit in objection to the exclusions, including Mexico, Honduras, Bolivia, and a couple of Caribbeans.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Jun 7 2022 19:25 utc | 378

@sln2002 355
IAEA visit project to the nuclear plant is quite interesting, and the Ukrainian negative reaction speaks volume about what Ukraine may have to hide within this station

Posted by: Daniel | Jun 7 2022 19:27 utc | 379

@ malenkov | Jun 7 2022 17:00 utc | 368 / 369
thanks for the additional info malenkov… language is an important key to understanding others… i wish i knew more languages, but i only know 1…. well – maybe 2, because i play music and understand this language too in my own way..

Posted by: james | Jun 7 2022 19:34 utc | 380

Russia Says It Will Take More Ukrainian Territory to Defend Against Longer-Range Weapons
Ritter says Russia needs a legal framework for Phase 3. Could the MLRS deployment (even though it is only 12 systems — 4 each from 3 nations) provide Russia legal justification for continuing?

Posted by: John Kauai | Jun 7 2022 19:45 utc | 381

@ Norwegian, RSH and other Lira fan club members
Please read this article and see what happens when SBU gets a hold of you. Then, explain to me how Lira is still making videos in Ukraine.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/beacon-democracy-kiev-regime-practice-kidnapping-people-spirals-out-control/5782639
Most of the pro comments I see say that they enjoy his videos. I’ll give him that. Good delivery and somewhat charming. But as I have mentioned there is no revelation in what he says. Copy/pasting comments from here and there and narrating them doesn’t make you an “analyst”. Especially with no experience or resume to back up one’s opinion.
A few smart commenters here have mentioned his university background and how counter-intelligence works. I just leave it at that.

Posted by: Alpi | Jun 7 2022 20:19 utc | 382

@Alpi | Jun 7 2022 20:19 utc | 382

Then, explain to me how Lira is still making videos in Ukraine.

You make claims, you provide evidence.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 7 2022 20:35 utc | 383

Came across this today from its Telegram Ch. ‘The Nebulator’ https://t.me/thenebulator/552

TheNebulator, [07/06/2022 17:27]
Years ago I wrote that the GAE wanted to make “a global Balkans” — turn the world into a place where they could do whatever, just like in the shards of Yugoslavia. But it’s much, much worse than that. They want the world to resemble Ukraine.
That’s basically what USAID head Samantha Power said (https://twitter.com/PowerUSAID/status/1534164204625723392) today. Specifically, that the US and its vassals “must build on the unity we’ve demonstrated in Ukraine to try to extend a broader revolution of dignity to people seeking to be free.”
“Revolution of dignity” is what the Nazis in Ukraine called the 2014 coup. Samantha wants to support the “locally-developed ambitions of pro-democratic movements and governments” (LOL) just like her government did in Kiev. She also wants to control digital tech and journalists; it’s all in her thread, read it if you have the stomach for it.
Perhaps the best part, irony-wise, is the announcement of a “dekleptification guide—a handbook to help countries make the difficult transition from kleptocracy to democracy.” Excuse me? The US, a corrupt oligarchy literally figure-headed by “10% for the Big Guy”? Using the example of Ukraine, probably the most kleptocratic country in the world right now?
I know Putin called the GAE an “Empire of Lies,” but do they have to repeatedly prove his point like this?
Twitter (https://twitter.com/PowerUSAID/status/1534164204625723392)
Samantha Power
LIVE: The global case for democracy has always been rooted in this country’s democratic legitimacy and strength—the endurance of our institutions and the persistence of each passing…

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 7 2022 20:37 utc | 384

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 7 2022 20:37 utc | 384
Out of Hell on a Broom dekleptocracy guide PROMO is here
sort of, kind of, in spirit

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 20:53 utc | 385

Posted by: bevin | Jun 7 2022 13:39 utc | 333
Helmer:

At 93 cents today it has now fallen to the all-time lows recorded between April 2000 and May 2002.

It looks like Helmer made a mistake. With one € you could buy today 1.07 USD. And the € went up since the 13th of May.
As for low records, there are several below 1.07 according to that chart:
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=10Y
The chart published by Helmer means that the $ went down since mid-may.

Posted by: Olivier | Jun 7 2022 22:14 utc | 386

And Helmer put a link to that Michael Hudson analysis:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/06/michael-hudson-on-the-coming-global-fracture-as-economic-orders-clash.html

Posted by: Olivier | Jun 7 2022 22:37 utc | 387

If you think screed X you read today was not tainted in any way – no Brigade 77, no CIA, no controlled opposition, no scandalous history, no problems – you are dreaming. Mockingbird was the original CIA op and always the most important.
Oh yes, Lira was Hollywood. Screenwriter. A few other roles. Director in Chile. CIA took over control of Hollywood from mafia very early. CIA owns and operates Hollywood. Too important to allow them independence.
Read Lira same way as anything else. Skeptically.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 7 2022 22:55 utc | 388

NATO is an American sockpuppet–just like those Coalitions of the Killing that the United States hide behind to bomb, invade, or colonize nations from Iraq to Afghanistan to Libya to Serbia.
As Lord Lionel Ismay, the first NATO Secretary General, once admitted: NATO was designed “to keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”.
If you want to get rid of NATO, you have to get rid of America.
De-NATOize Europe = DeAmericanize Europe.

Posted by: ak74 | Jun 8 2022 1:47 utc | 389

The article assumes the incompetence of European leaders, and the malevolence of the US. Why the favouritism for EU tyrants? Has the author forgotten the recent past, in which governments in Eurasia genocided their own populations? Does he know about the EU mission to destroy the national sovereignty of its member states, subsume them into itself, and replace European people with third world immigrants? Why assume they are not part of the globalist or deep state cabal busily imposing a medical and digital dictatorship across the once free Western world? I suspect the blindness to all this malevolence is caused by naive patriotism, in which the patriot cannot imagine that the nation’s leaders may seek to destroy its own citizens.

Posted by: nick | Jun 8 2022 10:03 utc | 390

This from today’s UK Guardian and why this ‘news’paper is nothing more than a propaganda conduit for the state:

Fighting alongside pro-Russia separatists as part of Moscow’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine wasn’t mentioned in the brochures of Luhansk University when Jean Claude Sangwa, a 27-year-old student from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, moved to the breakaway region last year to study economics.

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 8 2022 11:39 utc | 391

Posted by: sln2002 | Jun 7 2022 20:53 utc | 385
Whoops, sorry about that, I didn’t realise the link was bad.

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 8 2022 11:42 utc | 392

@sln2002 355
IAEA visit project to the nuclear plant is quite interesting, and the Ukrainian negative reaction speaks volume about what Ukraine may have to hide within this station
Posted by: Daniel | Jun 7 2022 19:27 utc | 379
Hmmm… Russia has occupied the place for some time, I’m sure that were anything illicit going on there, we’d know about it. I suspect that if anything incriminating was kept there, the US would have moved it first thing.

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 8 2022 11:49 utc | 393

Latest:

Battle for Severodonetsk: Situation as at 11:30 on June 8, 2022
▪️The units of 79 AFU Brigade and 10 AFU Brigade, located on the outskirts of Severodonetsk in Sirotino, ask for a command to retreat from the leadership because of the threat of being encircled.
▪️Some soldiers of the 115th Brigade retreated in small groups to Lysychansk.
Earlier, units of the 79th Army Brigade and 10th Army Brigade, as well as the 111th Territorial Defense Brigade, had retreated to Lysychansk in disorganized groups. The flight was halted by the redeployment to Severodonetsk of units of foreign mercenaries, led by MP Maryana Bezugla. The foreign mercenaries acted as a barrier unit and managed to stop the defense collapse.
▪️The Russian Armed Forces are fighting in the industrial zone near the Azot plant: units of the 81st AFU Brigade together with mercenaries of the “International Legion of Territorial Defense”.
The Russian Armed Forces are successfully fighting north of Borovskoye, pushing the Ukrainian Armed Forces out

Source: https://t.me/EurasianChoice/14868

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 8 2022 11:58 utc | 394

This should be interesting:

🇷🇺🇱🇹Deputy Yevgeny Fedorov submitted to the State Duma of the Russian Federation a bill to repeal the resolution of the USSR State Council “On recognition of the Independence of the Republic of Lithuania”.
“>https://t.me/EurasianChoice/14874

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 8 2022 12:50 utc | 395

Posted by: nick | Jun 8 2022 10:03 utc | 390
I think it needs to be remembered that Yurpean elites, just like those in Amurika, have been in the habit of using war, famine, pandemics, etc. to maintain themselves in power and control their subject peoples for quite some time now, it is not a new idea to them. Sometimes they have been very stupid about it too, e.g. WWI and WWII. Yeah, they would do that.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 8 2022 13:07 utc | 396

Very worrying!
Leaked emails reveal British journalist Paul Mason plotting with an intel contractor to destroy The Grayzone through “relentless deplatforming” and a “full nuclear legal” attack. The scheme is part of a wider planned assault on the UK left.
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 8 2022 14:38 utc | 397

You’re not an European, which is why you don’t get it.
Europeans are not afraid of America. They are definitely afraid of Russia.
America is on the other side of the ocean and sends expeditionary forces to keep the Germans down and pro-homo propaganda to look good to the Davos crowd. It’s transient and unimportant. Russia is right next door. Russia has been invading the rest of Europe for centuries. The people it keeps invading don’t want it invading. They want it to go away. They want to run their own countries. They don’t want Russian hegemony. They don’t care how fair the Russians think their offer is. They want the Russians to go away and not come back. This is a sentiment understood by everybody from Paris to Berlin to Budapest to Warsaw to Riga to Helsinki and now (or since the 1930s) to Kiev and Kharkov.
America does not provoke this visceral reaction of mixed terror and fury.
It does not matter what cold-blooded geopolitical strategy calculations you come up with if you cannot understand this basic fact.
Also, France is the most nuclearized country on the planet; they’re very close to self-sufficient for electricity in that regard. The only reason France is playing nice with Russia is historical sympathy.

Posted by: Rollory | Jun 8 2022 15:03 utc | 398

They are afraid and this being a natural response, it is perfectly understandable. The world has changed immeasurably since February. However, leaders of nations have a responsibility to maximise their long-term security and viability, both economic or otherwise. This behooves them to set aside emotion and ideology and engage in realpolitik and consider Russia’s offer seriously because they are neighbours forever. They are not going away.
Russia’s offer is simple as simple can be. You cannot and will not advance your security at the expense of my security. The Russians hwve sung this song for 15 years now.
Evoking the image of the Soviets is just plain deflection. The reasons for the war in Ukraine are crystal clear to any leader in EU. The paucity of leadership in the EU has led us to this stage. With possibly worse to come if they continue down the path of expanding NATO and placing missiles ever closer to Russian borders.

Posted by: eyeswideopen | Jun 8 2022 15:53 utc | 399

The war makes some people to monsters and some true heroes. It is very important to keep the morale as high as possible in the war times.
Here is beutiful singer from Donbass, she has a song letter to the Ukrainian soldiers in prison camps.
the https://rumble.com/v17o1jw-a-song-letter-of-the-ukrainian-prisoner.html

Posted by: Mikkael | Jun 8 2022 16:14 utc | 400