Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 23, 2022

White House Rejects President's Foreign Policy

U.S. President Joe Biden apparently pursues different foreign policies than the White House.

October 23 2021:

'Strategic Ambiguity' on Taiwan Apparent as White House Walks Back Biden Comments

White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Friday appeared to walk back President Joe Biden's statement on Thursday that the United States was committed to defending Taiwan should it come under Chinese attack.

"The president was not announcing any change in our policy, nor has he made a decision to change our policy," Psaki said during a White House news briefing. "Our defense relationship with Taiwan is guided by the Taiwan Relations Act."

The 1979 Taiwan Relations Act states that the U.S. will provide arms for Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability. It does not say the U.S. would intervene militarily to protect Taiwan in the event of a Chinese attack.

Psaki's statement stands in contradiction to Biden's comment at a CNN town hall Thursday night. When asked if the U.S. would come to the defense of Taiwan, Biden said, "Yes, we have a commitment to do that."

November 17 2021:

Biden Struggles to Stick to the Script on Taiwan

Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, and three times is habit—or so the saying goes.

Amid escalating tensions with China, U.S. President Joe Biden has misspoken about U.S. policy toward the self-governed island of Taiwan at least four times since August, fueling speculation as to whether the president is subtly trying to signal an evolving U.S. policy toward Taiwan or just fumbling the details.

March 27 2022:

Biden’s Putin remark, White House walk-back faces scrutiny

President Biden’s remark that Russian President Vladimir Putin “cannot remain in power” reverberated throughout Washington on Sunday, with some current and former officials and lawmakers scrutinizing the reported ad-lib while others slammed the White House for its subsequent walk-back.

Biden turned heads on Saturday when, at the end of a speech in Warsaw, Poland, he said, “for God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power.”

The White House quickly tried to walk back the comment, claiming that Biden was referring to Putin exercising power outside of Russia, and Secretary of State Antony Blinken affirmed that the U.S. has no plans for regime change in Moscow.

May 23 2022:

US would defend Taiwan if attacked by China, says Joe Biden

Joe Biden has said the US would intervene militarily to defend Taiwan if it came under attack from China – a statement that is likely to enrage Beijing as concern grows over Chinese military activity in the region.

Speaking in Tokyo on the second day of his visit to Japan, Biden said the US’s responsibility to protect the self-ruled island – which China considers a renegade province – was “even stronger” after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, in one of the most forceful statements in support of Taiwan in decades.

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Amichai Stein @AmichaiStein1 - 6:32 UTC · May 23, 2022
White House official: Biden’s statement that the US would get involved militarily to defend Taiwan is NOT a departure from long-standing US policy of strategic ambiguity
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Amichai Stein @AmichaiStein1 - 6:01 UTC · May 23, 2022
#BREAKING: President Biden says would be willing to get involved militarily to defend Taiwan from China aggression

They urgently need to shut up that warmongering idiot.

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Posted by: Ben | May 23 2022 19:08 utc | 126

If we accept the idea of a right to self-determination, which I assume most people here do,

I don't believe that anyone has a right to self-determination unless they are willing to fight for it. If the people of Taiwan actually exhibited this, I might give them a little more credit.

Posted by: Ben | May 23 2022 19:08 utc | 126

It has had elections since 1996,

Posted by: malenkov | May 23 2022 19:28 utc | 134

make a representative democracy of itself -- no thanks to the USA -- that puts the kakistocracy of the USA to shame

lol, Taiwan is about as much of a democracy as the US is. There's someone from Taiwan with some informative posts on this issue on Quora. This is a good recent one.

Posted by: Beatrice | May 24 2022 11:15 utc | 201

Posted by: Observer | May 23 2022 9:37 utc | 3

fomenting colour revolutions for one's own nefrious purposes is a good thing?
the murdering thieving death merchants in the Empire of Chaos never helped anyone except themselves... ever.

Posted by: ld | May 24 2022 11:20 utc | 202

They urgently need to shut up that warmongering idiot.

Posted by b on May 23, 2022 at 9:20 UTC |

Reading your piece about US warmongering gives me the sinking feeling that Russia's job is to contain and exhaust Europe whilst China's will be to do the same viz US. They started stockpiling food two years ago. They know how to really lock down cities. Definitely their own but maybe soon WHO will be doing the same in Blue US cities with DHS incarcerating dissident 'domestic terrorists'.....

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 11:48 utc | 203

Ben@126

It doesn't matter what changes Taiwan underwent. The "right to self-determination" also applies to the other "team" as well; the right to remain an intact nation.

Ian2 @132
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Exactly!

1.4 billion Chinese on the mainland China also have the "right to self-dtermination" to decide that Taiwan remians as intact part of China, according to UN Resolution 2758 and the 1979 U.S.-P.R.C. Joint Communique. (Details see my post@168).

People like Ben@126, they always think that only "their chosen people" have the right to self-determination.

Posted by: lulu | May 24 2022 12:05 utc | 204

An argument I have not seen come by is that Taiwan is the major chips-production centre in the world.

Posted by: DutchZ | May 23 2022 14:11 utc | 64

Before US sanctions against the Chinese electronics industry, China was happy with the US providing "intellectual property" and Taiwan making ic's.
Since the US sanctions, China is moving towards a sanction-proof electronics industry. Call it the de-americanizing of Chinese electronics.
Part of that is hiring Taiwanese to set up in China what they did in Taiwan.


Posted by: Passerby | May 24 2022 12:11 utc | 205

How Taiwan was returned to China by Japan following its surrender, written by a Taiwanese:

1. Excerpt from the 1943 Cairo Declaration: "all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa (Taiwan) , and The Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China."

2. Excerpt from the 1945 Potsdam Declaration: "Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku, and such minor islands as we determine"

3. Excerpt from Japan's Instrument of Surrender: "We hereby undertake for the Emperor, the Japanese Government and their successors to carry out the provisions of the Potsdam Declaration in good faith"

4. There is the argument that these are just communiques, and not actual treaties. However, the Instrument of Surrender was included in vol 59 of the United States Statutes at Large published in 1946, and in vol 139 of the United Nations Treaty Series issued in 1952.

5. Therefore, the Instrument of Surrender, which references both the Cairo and Potsdam declarations, is a legally binding document as far as the UN, US, Japan, and China are concerned.

6. China and Korea were excluded from the Treaty of San Francisco in 1951 because of the civil wars in the two respective countries and disagreements over which governments should represent the two countries.

7. Below is an excerpt from the Treaty of San Francisco: "Japan renounces all right, title and claim to Formosa and the Pescadores." The treaty was signed in September of 1951, and became effective on April 28, 1952.

8. Since the treaty does not explicitly state anything beyond Japan surrendering Taiwan and Penghu, separatists claim that the status of Taiwan is legally undetermined while arguing that the Cairo and Potsdam declarations are not legally binding.

9. However, while China was excluded from the Treaty of San Francisco, the US basically made Japan conclude a separate treaty with the "ROC" government on Taiwan, namely the Treaty of Taipei. Note that it was signed on April 28, 1952. Does this date look familiar?

10. That's because the date the Treaty of Taipei was signed was the same date the Treaty of San Francisco became effective. The Treaty of Taipei became effective in August of the same year.

11. Article 2 of the Treaty of Taipei: "It is recognised that under Article 2 of the Treaty of Peace which Japan signed at the city of San Francisco on 8 September 1951 (hereinafter referred to as the San Francisco Treaty),

12. Japan has renounced all right, title, and claim to Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores) as well as the Spratley Islands and the Paracel Islands."

13. Article 10 of the Treaty of Taipei: "For the purposes of the present Treaty, nationals of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all the inhabitants and former inhabitants of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores) and their descendents who are of the Chinese

14. nationality in accordance with the laws and regulations which have been or may hereafter be enforced by the Republic of China in Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores);

15. and juridical persons of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all those registered under the laws and regulations which have been or may hereafter be enforced by the Republic of China in Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores)."

16. The Theory of the Undetermined Status of Taiwan is therefore the result of a very selective interpretation of all of these various treaties.

18. Now, some might argue that the Treaty of Taipei was signed with the "ROC" administration on Taiwan after it had lost control of the mainland, and not the PRC government on the mainland. However, the Chinese Civil War is legally an internal affair of China.

19. Both the "ROC" and the PRC operate under the framework of One China, and although Taipei no longer actively pursues its territorial claims over the mainland, its constitution still considers Taiwan and the mainland to be two administrative regions of China.

20. PRC views itself as the successor state of the ROC. Legally, from the perspective of Beijing, Taiwan and other territories controlled by Taipei constitute a renegade region of the Republic, but are nonetheless de jure a part of the PRC.

21. Officially, the "ROC" position is that Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, and Matsu are the "free area of the ROC," while the rest of the China, while still de jure part of the "ROC," have fallen to communist administration.

22. In fact, the additional articles of the "ROC" constitution begin with this statement: "To meet the requisites of the nation prior to national unification, the following articles of the ROC Constitution are added or amended to the ROC Constitution in accordance with..."

23. And in accordance to the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758, China's seat was illegally occupied by the Chiang Kai-shek's representatives, and that the PRC is the sole legitimate government of China, meaning the UN recognizes the PRC as the successor to the ROC

24. Taiwan's status as a part of China is not undetermined. There's simply two political entities legally claiming legitimacy over all of China, with much of the world recognizing the claims of one.

25. The issue of Taiwan independence is hence the issue of abolishing the "Republic of China" regime and establishing a new independent republic, which even the incumbent DPP in Taiwan refuses to do. Such a new republic would also have to be internationally recognized.

26. And something that confuses many pro-China westerners is thinking the fact that the "ROC" regime continuing to claim the mainland in its constitution map means the current government thinks it's the "real China." Well, the DPP reluctantly accepts this framework.

27. In fact, Beijing prefers the current arrangement over Taipei revising the "ROC" constitutional map to only contain territories actually administered by Taipei, because such a move would be viewed as a formalization of Two Chinas, which it views to be the same as separatism.

28. The way the DPP frames the Taiwan situation is thus: "Taiwan is already an independent country called the Republic of China." However, this is as good as saying "we are not actively pursuing independence."

29. Funnily enough, the DPP party platform calls for a referendum to establish a new independent Republic of Taiwan. However, in all its decades of existing, it has never done so, and Tsai saying there's no need to do so means they've backpedaled and are a bunch of phonies.

30. "Taiwan independence" is therefore as realistic of a dream as Chiang Kai-shek's slogans of recapturing the mainland.

31. All I'm saying is if you want independence, u must face these facts. U can't talk about the international community and how it feels about TW as justification for independence and ignore the set of laws that you otherwise think are supposed to dictate international relations.

32. I guess I didn't make this clear, but the Theory of the Undetermined Status of Taiwan is invoked by separatists to claim that Taiwan was never returned to the ROC and hence has been illegally occupied since 1945. They think TW should legally belong under UN trusteeship.

33. Both the "ROC" and the PRC officially reject the Theory of the Undetermined Status of Taiwan.

34. The theory is upheld by hardline separatists. Some DPP members support it but they don't mention it when incumbent, because it invalidates the claim that "Taiwan is an independent country called the ROC" from a pro-separatism standpoint.


Posted by: lulu | May 24 2022 12:50 utc | 206

According to Cairo Declaration, the treatment of Manchuria and Formosa should be of the same effect. Thus, argument that status of Formosa, unlike that of Manchuria, is undetermined under the San Francisico Treaty is ill-founded.

Another line of argument against underterminism:

1. Treaty of Taipei (art. 4) made Treaty of Shimonoseki void ab initio.

2. Cession of Formosa pursuant to Treaty of Shimonoseki hence was of no legal effect from the outset.

3. ROC thus reclaimed Formosa, as the successor of Qing (Dynasty).

Original post here

Posted by: lulu | May 24 2022 13:12 utc | 207

@ Don Bacon | May 24 2022 3:26 utc | 191 about those "countries" in support of Taiwan as a sovereign country.

What? You don't consider the Holy See (Vatican City) a nation? How about the City of London?

[snip]

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 24 2022 4:00 utc | 192


Note that the diplomatic relations are not with the actual state -- Vatican City -- but with a purely ecclesiastical entity, the Holy See, which is in essence the offices of the Bishop of Rome as Bishop of Rome. It's amazing to me how people aren't outraged by this.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 13:16 utc | 208

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 13:16 utc | 208

I see the Pope as the successor of the Roman Emperor. The religious role of the office has remained or even increased; the worldly powers have shrunk.

Posted by: Passerby | May 24 2022 13:26 utc | 209

They urgently need to shut up that warmongering idiot.
Posted by b on May 23, 2022 at 9:20 UTC |

...from a current Newsweek article. . .
The Commander in Chief flew into Tokyo . . .
. . .Despite this being Biden's first Asia trip as Commander in Chief,

So US citizens abide in an armed camp, subjects of the "Commander in Chief."

This derives from the Constitution, Article II, Section 2: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;

Oddly enough, the U.S. is also called a democracy by the warmonger-in-chief.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 24 2022 13:36 utc | 210

Wiki's got a whole page on China–Holy See relations. China is nervous about any hierarchy of the church in mainland China.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 24 2022 13:43 utc | 211

It has had elections since 1996, and the KMT doesn't run the country anymore; the DPP does.

Ben@126
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FYI, KMT ran Taiwan from 2008 to 2016.

DPP was to lose the election in 2020 due to Tsai's incompetence and scandals. Thanks to HK's violent protest, which DPP (besides CIA & MI6) played an important role to escalate the violence by pouring $$$ and inteligence into HK, Tsai thus got the second term.

DPP and Tsai are simply the stooge of the Empire and would do anything to advance their own political career.

For example, they've opened the door to import harmon-filled American pork(蔡猪) and Japanese produce from the nuclear polluted Fukushima(核食), despite the strong protest from Taiwanese consumers and farmers.

Guess that's the "price" of having democracy and "freedom" of choice, right?

Posted by: lulu | May 24 2022 13:47 utc | 212

Here the smoke of ambiguity arising from the tops of DC, Langley and the three "bigs" (oil, pharma & tech) seems clearly a clash of wills & nearer goals instead of discrepancy in the overall purpose, which lingers on: the full spectrum dominance.
The AMBIGUITY cultivated within the Kremlin walls is quite another thing:it 's final goal being a push the end of the Empire but the
center where the levering is applied is Ukraine. Let the westerners indefinitely guess: does Putin want to grab the whole of Ukro? or just as a temporary occupation? just a push for creation of three new independent states? or even grab the west slice with Lviv et all? Will it comprise the
entire Black Sea shores? or leave a breathing space there just for the sake of 'negotiation' from a position of force?
And further, will bad Vlad accept or foster a few local referenda... for re-incorporation into mother Russia?
For the time being bad vlad is just slowly picking up more and more ace cards. And he s got handfull already.
And then, keep guessing. As use to say: all options on the table.
from the ongoing poker...

Posted by: augusto | May 24 2022 14:04 utc | 213

Don Bacon @188

Sorry to point out these 13 countries and Vatican City/Holy See recognize ROC (based in Twaiwan) as the sole representive of China, not Taiwan per se as a sovereign.country.

That's huge difference here, which DPP and pro-independence Taiwanese get used to mislead the people.

Posted by: lulu | May 24 2022 14:04 utc | 214

[a] The Confederacy was eradicated as a [nation-]state and its territories returned to the control of Washington. [b} Whereas with Taiwan, Beijing hasn't had a role in running it since the KMT laid claim to it.
Posted by: Ben | May 24 2022 0:07 utc | 177

Good morning, Ben.
(a) is factually incorrect. The "territorial integrity" of the rebel states before and after the "War of Northen Agression" are identical. Has no one told you about the the Reconstruction Acts? The Union armies of soldiers,fl jurists, and representatives actually failed to reform the hearts and minds of Calhoun's partisan-shifting, color-coded progeny--although popular press here might have you believe that WAVES of migration, N to S and back again, have tempered the Articles of Confederation, or sovereignty of the several states enshrined in the US Constitution. Bow your head, and let us pray over states' flags, constitutions, and reparations denied descendants of US slaves.
(b) is factually incorrect. Who's paying for the KMT's folly even now, Ben?

PS. I gather, you are excited to express yourself. In future, however, take care to differentiate your replies to specific remarks with greater precision.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 24 2022 14:08 utc | 215

[a] The Confederacy was eradicated as a [nation-]state and its territories returned to the control of Washington. [b} Whereas with Taiwan, Beijing hasn't had a role in running it since the KMT laid claim to it. Posted by: Ben | May 24 2022 0:07 utc | 177

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Good morning, Ben.
(a) is factually incorrect. The "territorial integrity" of the rebel states before and after the "War of Northen Agression" are identical. [snip]
Posted by: sln2002 | May 24 2022 14:08 utc | 215


The Commonwealth of Virginia might beg to differ.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 14:22 utc | 216

The new Oz leader had to deal with a silly Biden during their meeting in Tokyo, but Albanese did manage to gush over the US and say "my government is very committed to the alliance. . .I look forward to really strengthening our relationship." . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 24 2022 14:26 utc | 217

@ Don Bacon

I was tickled, but not terribly impressed, by all the expressions of hope in these pages for Albanese and his evolving government. Today's wsws dot org has an excellent takedown of the victors in the Australian elections -- Australia will indeed be getting more of the same, if with a tad less visible corruption.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 14:32 utc | 218

Ricardo Ramirez @181

His The Imperial Cruise is also great, which examines Roosevelt's diplomatic mistakes that encouraged the Japanese imperialism and the ultimate blowback and consequence.


karlof1@119

"The answer to who lost China is simply Chaing lost it since he and his pals were crooks first and foremost, not Chinese Patriots - those were the Communists."

Thanks for pointing out this obvious fact why CPC got and still gets lots of support from the ordinary Chinese.

Xi's statement about common prosperity and rejuvenisation Chinese nation just reflects the continuation of CPC's core historic mission. Not about world dominance but all about the Chinese and China.

Btw, Washington's choice of wording of who "lost" China sounds as if China belongs to US. Typical Empire hubris!

The US government wasted tons of tax payers $$$ on the corrupted Chiang Kai-shek because the American missionaries believed that they could turned China into a Christian country via Chiang, who just converted to Christian to marry his new wife Soong Mei-ling.

(Madame Soong was born into a wealthy Methodist family and graduated from Wellesley College, alumnae of Hillary Clinton).

One of the fervent supporters of Chiang and Madame Soong was the hugely influencial Henry Luce, founder of Times and son of a China missionary. Chiang got on more Times covers than FDR did.

Posted by: lulu | May 24 2022 15:14 utc | 219

lulu @219--

Thanks for your reply. I see we have discussion here over the newly implemented IPEF, which is another unequal trade tool controlled by the Outlaw US Empire aimed at destabilizing the ASEAN:

"Xu said that because the US-led strategy does not put the interests of ASEAN at its center, some ASEAN members may not be entirely willing members, despite the fact that they joined.

"Xu noted that seen from disclosed information on how the IPEF works, it is not an equal deal, not even among its founding members, as countries have to negotiate terms with the US around the four pillars - specific areas of cooperation in digitalization, supply chains, clean energy and the so-called fair economy."

Press reports indicate that Biden's initiative will likely fade with time and be forgotten by 2030 as other trade mechanisms are for more inclusive and palatable to the region's nations. In a world that more than ever rejects the notion that some animals are more equal than others, initiatives by the Outlaw US Empire attempting to enforce that maxim will fail--Zero-sumism is being shunned as it should be, but those running the Outlaw US Empire haven't woken to that crucial fact.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 15:38 utc | 220

China took aim at another negative Outlaw US Empire policy at yesterday's UNSC technology and security briefing:

"It is worrisome that for some time now, some governments have politicized issues of scientific and technological nature, generalized the concept of national security, abused state power, and wantonly intensified their suppression of high-tech companies of other countries, said Zhang Jun, China's permanent representative to the UN.

"Zhang said that these countries imposed technology blockades on others and obstructed the economic, trade, scientific and technological cooperation among other countries in order to maintain the monopoly in science and technology, an attempt that is clearly doomed to fail."

Furthermore, China emphasized Russia's stance on this issue that it's imperative to utilize the UN as the meeting place to solve these issues:

"The Chinese ambassador also noted that technological developments can be a source of risk, and that the international community should see the UN as a main channel for active dialogue, exchanges and cooperation and jointly manage the risks by formulating and improving universally accepted rules and norms.

"'It is necessary to curb the abuse of information technology, cyber-surveillance, cyber-attacks, and of the arms race in cyberspace. It is crucial to prevent terrorists from using the internet for recruitment, financing, or organizing terrorist attacks. It's important to prevent the internet from becoming a hotbed of hate speech, racism, pornography and violence,' Zhang said."

On another thread, China's support of Russia was being questioned. Here's direct evidence of China supporting Russia's line on Cyber issues, which grow more critical as time moves forward.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 15:47 utc | 221

On the Taiwan issue, this editorial explores the recent decision of the WHA to not admit Taiwan as an observer. Here are a few vital points picked from the editorial:

"The UN General Assembly Resolution 2758 and WHA Resolution 25.1 provide the legal basis for the WHO to follow the one-China principle. The participation of the island of Taiwan in the WHA must be handled in accordance with the one-China principle and through cross-Straits consultations....

"'Taiwan being excluded from the WHA' is in fact a pseudo-proposition created by the DPP authorities who were manipulated by the US as a puppet. It is a Trojan horse under the disguise of 'human rights' and 'public health' but actually intends to impact the one-China principle.

"No matter how much they want to 'seek independence using the pandemic,' they cannot hide the basic fact that, under the premise of the one-China principle, the Chinese central government has made proper arrangements for the island's participation in global health affairs.

"There is an International Health Regulations Contact Point in the Taiwan region to allow prompt access and report information related to health emergencies. In other words, the channels for Taiwan to obtain various information and support for epidemic prevention and control are completely smooth and effective. The DPP's so-called 'gap in the international epidemic prevention system' is a complete fabrication."

And here's the crowning fact:

"However, from 2009 to 2016, the island of Taiwan participated in the WHA as an observer without spending a penny from the people or kowtowing to the US. The facts are in front of us: It is not the so-called 'suppression' by the Chinese mainland that blocks Taiwan's participation in the WHA as an observer, but the political manipulation of the DPP's refusal to recognize the '1992 Consensus.'"

I find it excellent that so many nations are aware of the Outlaw US Empire's antics on this issue and refuse to be fooled as there was a time not so long ago where that wasn't the case.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 16:02 utc | 222

Biden's senility is comparable to that of Franz Josef of Austria-Hungary in 1914. I wonder if it will have the same results.

Posted by: ChrisHerz | May 24 2022 18:13 utc | 223

Biden, even in his lucid decades, was always a mean, snivelly son of a bitch. Franz Josef, although intellectually mediocre, always carried himself with dignity. Well, maybe not when behind closed doors with Katharina Schratt, but we'll never know that for sure.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 18:29 utc | 224

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 24 2022 3:09 utc | 189:

The key word in that policy is "peaceful"--the implication has always been (and was unambiguously reiterated during the Clinton administration nearly 30 years ago) that the US would, in the event of an aggressive, violent attempt to take over the island, send its military to come to the aid of Taiwan.

Some 30 years ago, during Clinton years, such utterance by Americanos would mean something to China. It was clear China wouldn't dare to buck heads with Americano due to the steep imbalance in military capabilities between the two. Bombing of the Embassy in Belgrade proved that. Now, 30 years later, any Americano making this kind of statement is merely whistling past the graveyard. Just anyone of the 7-military regional forces of China alone can burn Americano's ass in a war in China's backyard within a week, plus clearing out all American military bases west of the International Dateline. Sending military to come to the aid of Taiwan in 2022 and thereafter? Don't bother. By the time your aid arrives, Taiwan will be flying the red five stars flag and your bases in Ryukyu/Yokosuke/Korea/Guam simmering in ashes.

I read couple of your postings on this thread, excellent postings. You're knowledgeable regarding China/Taiwan, and you are realistic regarding the geopolitics between the nascent East/West faceoff. I believe you are in the same camp as I am with respect to which side of the conflict to pull for. But, on this issue of whether Americano can still dictate the China internal conflict, I think you are still under the false impression of American omnipotence. Yes, Americanos can still inflict pain to China in an all out war, but only in terms of inclusion of the nuke weaponry to achieve total mutual destruction. Short of employing the apparent huge advantage of nuke stockpile, the American fighting machine, with soldiers averaging 220lbs a person (including their women soldiers), ain't worth of even the task of peacefully pulling out of the graveyard of Afghanistan.

America is already in the pits, in case people haven't yet noticed!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | May 24 2022 19:47 utc | 225

Biden, even in his lucid decades, was always a mean, snivelly son of a bitch. Franz Josef, although intellectually mediocre, always carried himself with dignity. Well, maybe not when behind closed doors with Katharina Schratt, but we'll never know that for sure.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 18:29 utc | 224

Yep, that is Biden.

America is already in the pits, in case people haven't yet noticed!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | May 24 2022 19:47 utc | 22

I think it is the racism of our elites here, the real ones, that has led to this, they thought they could buy China, and it would stay bought. That sense of entitlement.

A lot of us have noticed. A lot of us have tried to do something about it. As you may notice, they don't listen. They don't mind shooting people. "It's kinda fun."

It looks like they are going to overturn the game board here, better to rule over the rubble than to lose control. There is a long history of using scarcity and famine and such to maintain control, it's an old habit now.

But that won't help them win any wars either.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 24 2022 20:42 utc | 226

It is refreshing to see some of you tools at least be completely honest about how you believe in might makes right.

Posted by: Ben | May 25 2022 3:45 utc | 227

@Oriental Voice | May 24 2022 19:47 utc | 225


I believe you are in the same camp as I am with respect to which side of the conflict to pull for. But, on this issue of whether Americano can still dictate the China internal conflict, I think you are still under the false impression of American omnipotence.


You are very much wrong in that estimation, regarding the "Americanos", as you parse the label.

I have been vociferously pushing my Taiwanese friends--now for nearly 30 years--to stop believing that the US will rush to their aid and save them from a Chinese invasion.

As that German guy Clausewitz once opined:

"War is the means of enforcing political ends that otherwise would be politely refused"--or some such other such phrasing.

In any event: no. I'm not favoring a US Victory in the Pacific, these days. Nor do I believe the US is in any way "exceptional."

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 25 2022 7:33 utc | 228

@Ben | May 25 2022 3:45 utc | 227

It is refreshing to see some of you tools at least be completely honest about how you believe in might makes right.

Honestly, your post is one of the most refreshing things I've seen on these boards.

Are you among those unfathomably stupid people who think that the power to defend oneself against aggression suddenly makes one more valuable?

Really? Are you that stupid?


Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 25 2022 8:00 utc | 229

Oops:

"...makes one less valuable?"

Chalk it up to me being drunk, and thank you all for being forgiving.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 25 2022 8:02 utc | 230

Apparently I have to actually explain this at some length:

The idea of a right to self-determination is the principle that the people who should have the primary role in deciding the political destiny of a region are the people actually living in that region.

You cannot support this for Crimea, Donbass, etc, but not support it for Taiwan. It really is that simple.

"Well they aren't willing to fight for it!"

Says who? Taiwan has a military. You don't like that they have foreign patronage? Of course they do; they'd be fools not to. They're outnumbered something like 150 to 1. They can't win on their own, just like Donbass couldn't win on their own.

If you think that Beijing gets to decide who is and isn't China and who gets to run ethnic Chinese populations, you believe in something, but it sure isn't *self*-determination. By that logic the Donbass republics need to shut up and sit down, because Kiev is bigger and stronger.

Posted by: Ben | May 27 2022 3:29 utc | 231

malenkov @ 49
"The important thing to remember about Biden is that he has always lacked the self-discipline to engage in diplomacyspeak. To the degree that he isn't a total vegetable, what he says is what he thinks, which is highly likely to be unofficial but very real US consensus policy."

That's how he rolls apparently.
There's an Australian television show called Planet America that looks into U.S. politics. It covers serious content but with a satirical twist.
During the U.S. primaries before Mr. Biden's election run they interviewed several leading U.S. political journalists to get a better understanding of Mr. Biden.
When the posed the question of whether he was fit to run because of his incoherence and obvious dropping of gaffes to one the American journos, they said that " that's just Joe."
" He's always had a history of being vague and dropping gaffes ever since he first started seeking public offices decades ago."
The journo said that's why they love him, for his newsworthy gaffes and that they also painted it in an endearing way to the public, goofy uncle Joe opened his mouth again, Haha.
So yes apparently he's always had a foot in mouth disease, the question is, is it accidental, deliberate, testing the waters, something else maybe, or random combinations of all the above?

Posted by: Glen Batterham | May 30 2022 10:05 utc | 232

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