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May 28, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-75

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict ...

The open thread for other issues is here.

Posted by b on May 28, 2022 at 16:40 UTC | Permalink

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To clear that last one up a little, kinzal penetrated a soviet era nuclear bunker to destroy tochka missile stockpile.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 29 2022 6:08 utc | 201

@ CarlD | May 29 2022 4:45 utc | 183

Missed your answer earlier. Thanks!

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 29 2022 6:11 utc | 202

I have a book of quotations which I enjoy reading. One that sticks with me is by Robert Penn Warren who said, "All history is explained by geography." It explains so much to me regarding the current situation. Ukraine is a vast region, steppes through which the West can go east. Conversely, the "Huns" can invade from the East. Russia is a huge country with thousands of miles of possible points of invasion. That could lead to a sense of paranoia for a Russian. Ukrainians could feel victimized by being a perpetual battleground. The USA has two oceans buffering them from what is happening in Eurasia, Africa and Australia, hence a feeling of invulnerability. I guess all of that is in flux with the modern (post-modern?) era in which we live, but it seems like it frames so much of the tragedy which is playing out right now.
In the USA it is a holiday weekend, so I have been taking advantage of the MoA sandbox.
I have learned so much here.

Posted by: lex talionis | May 29 2022 6:26 utc | 203

Interesting how a US based oligarch with factories in China is helping in the fight against China's partner...

Posted by: Scorpion | May 29 2022 4:57 utc | 190

Ah yes but with manufacturing China has the tech and certainly happy to share with Russia.

Musk is the personification of disruptive tech. I don't trust anything about him which makes him a perfect fit for the US war machine. I highly doubt that Starlink ever had any true application other than US military andI also don't think he could design or build a toaster let alone an EV or a satellite. He comes across as a total fake. Although everyone I know is super impressed with him. What am I missing?

Posted by: K | May 29 2022 6:27 utc | 204

Jen [81]

I thought of Graham Phillips at first as he is a British journalist with a distinct northern English accent - he is originally from Nottinghamshire

Nottingham is not "North" in any respect. It is always considered "Midlands"

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2022 6:36 utc | 205

Posted by: Pagan | May 28 2022 19:09 utc | 55

Maassen was never "Intelligence Chief" since that refers to BND. He was Head of BfV which is Counter-Intelligence until fired by the Merkel regime in Nov 2018 for daring to contest the ideological spin over troubles in Chemnitz where Merkel's ideologues were using the same "SED-Stasi" language as in 1989 and promoting a fake video. Greens and SPD wanted him fired.

He has no position in either Intelligence or Counter-Intelligence today and quite rightly asks for an assessment where German policy is leading the nation - especially since the Research Service of the Bundestag has already highlighted the nature of Co-Belligerency - and Putin warned both Macron and Scholz in a telephone call.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2022 6:44 utc | 206

Posted by: K | May 29 2022 6:27 utc | 202

I share your scepticism about the man but cannot debt his excellent technical pedigree. His business however is funded by Sale of CO2 Offset Credits and the huge government subsidies into the solar firm SolarCity.

I view him as another Ivar Krueger or Jimmy Ling.

The fact is US is awash with liquidity looking for a good story to invest in - Elizabeth Homes
rode the wave as do lots of SPACs.

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2022 6:49 utc | 207

@hopehely | May 28 2022 23:31 utc | 126

The underlying concepts of free will and a indivisible individual are debunked by the modern science,
Free will is alive and well, except with those "modern scientists" that are paid to say the opposite, using non-scientific words like "debunk".

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2022 6:53 utc | 208

@psychohistorian | May 29 2022 2:04 utc | 159

Who says Russia doesn't do PR?...I think this is a clear message to Finland and Sweden
The Barents Sea is shared with Norway. The White Sea has Russia on all sides and not in any way near Sweden.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2022 7:16 utc | 209

lex talionis | May 29 2022 6:26 utc | 201
Add cultures to the mix. Add the normal human preference for peace and prosperity. Overlay that with current western propaganda and that is where we are at.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 29 2022 7:29 utc | 210

@psychohistorian | May 29 2022 4:27 utc | 179

Below is a Xinhuanet link to a story about the Russia testing of the Tsirkon missile. The question I have is about the picture of the launch provided with the story. In the picture it looks like there is thrust coming from the nose of the missile as well as the tail...thoughts?
There are "hundreds" of videos of russian missile launches from the sea, i.e. submarines and surface ships, you must have missed them. Almost always, the missiles are launched vertically and one or more nose thrusts are used after a couple of seconds to literally turn the orientation of the missile to inclined or sometimes near horizontal in the desired direction. These are not ballistic missiles.

Another Zircon launch in 2021 showing this

This is a particularly good example of such technology with the Oniks system, the missile is literally turned 90 degrees in mid air.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2022 7:41 utc | 211

Posted by: PavewayIV | May 29 2022 1:39 utc | 152 (and others)

That “single line of code” claim does sound like bs.

Wild guess, but I saw a photograph of a purported Ukie drone team in the field, with a Starlink dish, and noticed that it was pointing more towards the horizon than towards the zenith so perhaps the fix was to allow connection to satellites well off the zenith, which would give more connection points and thus be harder to jam on a piecemeal basis? Or perhaps the alignment in the photograph was typical of Starlink operation.

The threat of Starlink is that it allows unlimited over-the-horizon control of any tech/weapon systems.

It also allows weapons to be launched by one team (in Ukraine, say) and then be controlled by another team (in the US, say).

Wash your mind out for even thinking it =)

Posted by: anon2020 | May 29 2022 7:41 utc | 212

@anon2020 | May 29 2022 7:41 utc | 210

Wild guess, but I saw a photograph of a purported Ukie drone team in the field, with a Starlink dish, and noticed that it was pointing more towards the horizon than towards the zenith

Please share the link/photo. This sounds completely ridiculous. To communicate with Starlink, fixed parabolic antennas are used, as shown in the video I sheared before:

But as always I am willing to be corrected by new (to me) factual information.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2022 7:56 utc | 213

Hello Alabamans! An acquaintance sent me a link to this site. Perhaps he didn't mean to, but here I am.

Re: the mystery of Brian Berletic as Tony Cartalucci. My ex-husband was always reading political stuff on his website. I remember because he was always busy. He was very well informed about what was going on in Ukraine, starting with the US-backed coup in 2014 and the machinations of Victoria Nuland. I thought he was seeing another woman, but turns out he was just reading the news. I still would've got divorced but Mr. Cartalucci didn't help.

I once heard a rumor that Stephen King took on the name Richard Bachman when one of his fans pretended to be him in a fiction writers' club. Allegedly, he didn't want there to be another author with the same name. If it sounds like a ridiculous story, well I can't help it if it comes from a questionable source. I would find it remarkable in my case as there are 17576 combinations for that number of letters, but I don't have to worry about it because I'm not an author.

Posted by: Mel | May 29 2022 8:03 utc | 214

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2022 7:56 utc | 211

Starlink updated their antenna and router back in November:

Posted by: One Too Many | May 29 2022 8:06 utc | 215

France and Germany are impressed with their own importance, but nobody else is. And where is the UK, another self-important small nation.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 29 2022 4:09 utc | 174

You take that call for a ceasefire far too seriously. It's just an automatic response, when one side is about to lose big, a desperate attempt to turn away the inevitable.

Posted by: laguerre | May 29 2022 8:39 utc | 216

I don't think I'd like to be a tank operator with the Ukrainian forces with this kind of firepower facing me.

"The Ministry of Defense showed the work of Ka-52 helicopters to destroy strongholds and armored vehicles of Ukrainian troops."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2022 9:13 utc | 217

The Ukrainian forces are up against an impressive Russian arsenal, I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of this monster weapons shell.

"The 2S7M Malka is a modernized version of the 2S7 Pion gun, created in the 1980s and still considered one of the most powerful guns in the world."

You can watch it in action if you can access Telegram.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2022 9:19 utc | 218

I wonder which MP this guy is a relative of.

"The Russian Investigative Committee will hold a probe into the role of a British lawmaker’s relative in combat operations in Ukraine, the Investigative Committee’s press office reported on Sunday.

"Under a criminal case of mercenary activity, the investigative team will establish the role of Grant who is a relative of the British MP," the press office said.

According to the available data, Grant commanded an attack by a group of Western mercenaries on a Russian military convoy in Ukraine.

"His actions will be assessed from the standpoint of criminal law," it said."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2022 9:39 utc | 219

... Please share the link/photo. This sounds completely ridiculous. ...

Posted by: Norwegian | May 29 2022 7:56 utc | 211

Sorry, I’m don’t have a link, it was just something I saw in the last few weeks when Starlink was mentioned in relation to Ukie use of drones in support of their military. It was an an obviously portable dish stand, not a fixed installation.

I noticed at the time that the dish was well off the zenith but if you search for “Starlink mobile dish” the images show dishes well off the zenith so perhaps it is normal and not indicative of an attempt to favour Starlink sats that are outside UA national borders.

I can’t find a Starlink comms module that would fit inside a small drone so perhaps remote control isn’t currently possible at that scale. There are plenty of claims that a standard Starlink dish works from a moving car, though, and also this:

“US military wants SpaceX to create a miniature, battery-powered Starlink dish”

What I can find suggests that spotter drones using standard drone radio links are being operated by in-field teams with Starlink being used to connect spotters with artillery/other units to exchange targeting/operational information. No claims or admissions that Starlink is being used to directly control drone munitions, as yet.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 29 2022 9:52 utc | 220

The US to send long range rocket launchers to Ukraine.

"The US has decided to further extend military aid to Ukraine, transferring long-range rocket systems to the country while Russia continues to make advancements in its special operations in the Donbas.

US officials said on Friday that despite its earlier reservations in regard to sending missile systems to Ukraine, following Kiev's insistence Washington had agreed to deliver them the Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) or the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) next week.

Western countries led by the United States had already provided Ukraine with long-range weaponry, including M777 howitzers. However, Kiev insisted that it wanted longer-range ground weapons, especially rocket launchers, to help it win artillery battles."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2022 9:53 utc | 221

After finding out that the US was working n deadly pathogens in multiple biolabs in Ukraine I find this totally plausible.

"Russia says US-controlled biological laboratories in Nigeria, where monkeypox came from, are responsible for the spread of the viral zoonosis, urging inspection of the “strange coincidence”.

Citing a report by the World Health Organization (WHO) that monkeypox originally spread from Nigeria, Igor Kirillov, chief of the Russian Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Troops, said on Friday that US-deployed biological infrastructure in the African country was responsible for the outbreak.

"According to the available information, at least four US-controlled biolaboratories operate in Nigeria," Sputnik quoted Kirillov as saying, adding that US biolabs were present in the cities of Abuja, Zaria and Lagos.

Kirilov called on the WHO to investigate the alleged US role in spreading monkeypox, noting it is necessary to point out a "strange coincidence that requires additional inspection by specialists.""

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2022 9:58 utc | 222

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2022 9:19 utc | 215

I posted a video many moons ago when the original model, the 2S7 Pion, was spotted in the field.

Meet the 2S7M 'Malka': One of the Most Powerful 'Guns' on the Planet

Russia army uses in Ukraine modernized 2S7M Malka 203mm most powerful mobile gun system in the world

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 29 2022 10:50 utc | 223

I don't have any clear theories and generally don't like speculating too much

Posted by: Scorpion | May 29 2022 1:27 utc | 149

I don't know that it's necessary to speculate beyond the word "hubris." The fools in government like Nuland and Blinken and the billionaires behind them are just people like us, only endowed by a sick capitalist system with power way beyond their ability to handle. It's insane for anyone to think he's entitled and able to rule the world. People who think they're Napoleon used to end up in mental health facilities. Now, if they have money or are supported by people with money, they're treated like Pharaohs.

When "hubris" appears, "nemesis" is not far behind.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | May 29 2022 10:51 utc | 224

Starlink is a bad joke. Elon‘s PR machine simply working overtime.

BTW - why would RF block Starlink when then can listen in, in real time ? BWAH !!!!

Posted by: Exile | May 29 2022 11:05 utc | 225

@Norwegian #211

I don’t know about the orientation issue, but the Starlink antenna is a VERY advanced phased array with a huge number of quite advanced (and somewhat power-hungry) ICs and over 1,000 elements. There is also a crude mechanical positioning mechanism. It is probably being sold at 1/10 the price they would need to make a profit on the hardware. I suspect these characteristics and the potential direct satellite-to-satellite links makes this a dual use system from the get go.

Posted by: BillB | May 29 2022 11:08 utc | 226

"Shes exposing the TRUTH in Ukraine and they dont like it Redacted Conversation with Eva Bartlett"

Posted by: CM of Berlin | May 29 2022 11:51 utc | 227

Russia is fighting Nato/US in Lybia,
Russia is fighting them in Syria
They are fighting the Brits/Canada in Ukraine
There is a large far right in poland ready to roll

This is WW3 I fear the outcome.

Posted by: Oh Canada | May 29 2022 11:53 utc | 228

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 29 2022 6:49 utc | 205

Musk has an impressive pedigree of buying tech, not developing it. And an even more impressive pedigree of getting the US government to subsidize his businesses while playing the role of self-made libertarian.

Posted by: Lex | May 29 2022 12:00 utc | 229

I'm surprised no one has posted this: Christorou mentioned - at least a day or two ago - that an EU official said that the actual amount of Russian reserves frozen by the EU was only $30 billion, and $100 billion by the US - and that Christoforou checked that Russia's statements back when this happened never stated numbers but only confirmed the act.

RT link on frozen Russian reserves

The European Union has frozen roughly €23 billion ($24.5 billion) worth of assets of the Russian Central Bank, Reuters reported, citing EU Justice Commissioner Didier Reynders, who revealed the figure at a news conference on Wednesday.

The amount is much smaller than expected out of the reported $300 billion frozen by the US and its allies as part of Ukraine-related sanctions against Russia.

According to Reynders, some €10 billion ($10.68 billion) worth of physical assets linked to Russian businessmen and officials, their yachts and villas, for instance, were also arrested.


Of these funds, around $100 billion was reportedly frozen by the US, while other funds appear to be scattered in central banks across the globe.

A 100 billion here, 50 billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money...

Posted by: c1ue | May 29 2022 12:10 utc | 230

Posted by: emersonreturn | May 29 2022 5:38 utc | 197

" must now (finally) be dawning they indeed lost, miscalculated & the treasure that slipped between their fingers will never be reclaimed. blame putin, certainly putin, patrushev, lavrov, glazynev, all out played them...."

None of these are to 'blame' -- all are innocent of the Great Crime that has been revealed by the action of Russia in defending itself and its people before the world's gaze.

What then is to blame? It is very clear. In one word: INFRASTRUCTURE

Russia has it; USA does not. It's not just the effect so glaringly obvious of who is winning in the battles taking place in Ukraine, what better weapons, what superior strategy. It is the very fact of such successes built upon the heroic deeds of so many willing participants in the defence of something as ephemeral as the combined safety of millions of fellow citizens. That common purpose isn't built upon fanatic idealism, or some far out utopian dream. It is built upon national integrity from birth to grave. Put simply, infrastructure is the respectful education of our own children. In this simple task, the US has failed.

You can't fake it, as will be attempted this evening at the concert dedicated to the US Memorial Day. I won't be watching. Ukraine's flags were flying upside down in a staged event a few days ago. For this evening's one, so should be the US flag. We have nothing to be proud of.

It is that treasure, emersonreturn, which has slipped between our fingers. Time for humility; The time, the moment, is now. Stop the music. Bow heads. Kneel even. Not just one knee, both knees!! Wouldn't that be something -- musicians, the orchestra leader, the patrons ... all standing, kneeling in silence, pressing foreheads to the ground.

I know, of course, it won't happen. The charade must go on. It isn't over yet. The only happy thought is that this treasure is and always will be reclaimable. A child will be born while the trumpets are blaring, and then another, in America as in other places. Spirit and truth,an infant's first cries ask for this: give these children that treasure; give them the respect Russia gives her children. Start before the music dies.

Start building!

Posted by: juliania | May 29 2022 12:22 utc | 231

@Posted by: Olivier | May 28 2022 23:34

Thanks, I'll be enjoying that one.

Posted by: bottle | May 29 2022 12:25 utc | 232

@BillB #223
Sophisticated, definitely.
Expensive - not so clear to me - at least in terms of material costs. Development costs were certainly high.

Starlink teardown

Beyond attempting to analyze the RF magic that’s happening inside the antenna, [Kenneth] also takes viewers through a tour of some of the more recognizable components of the PCB; picking out things like the Power over Ethernet magnetics, a GPS receiver, some flash storage, and the H-Bridge drivers used to control the pan and tilt motors in the base of the dish.

It also appears that the antenna is a self-contained computer of sorts, complete with ARM processor and RAM to run the software that aims the phased array. Speaking of which, it should come as no surprise to find that not only are the ICs that drive the dizzying array of antenna elements the most numerous components on the PCB, but that they appear to be some kind of custom silicon designed specifically for SpaceX.

Keep in mind that RF components really aren't expensive due to the enormous volume from cell phone production. So unless Starlink is using some extra special stuff - GaAs or some other kind of non-standard RF, those parts don't price out high at all.
RAM and flash memory - if you can buy 64 gigabyte flash thumb drives for $5, not seeing a high cost there.
And any such setup is going to need A/D, D/A, probably a digital signal processor. Phased array itself is a bunch of small cheap antennas.

The true cost is certainly more on the design and implementation side, plus the software - but that is a largely fixed cost that would be offset if millions or more Starlinks are sold.

The main benefit of a phased array is they are a lot better at tracking moving objects - the Starlink satellites are not in geosync orbit so are moving at really high speeds.

Starlink satellite travels over 7.7 km/s

So that's the tradeoff: Starlink sats are low - 300 miles-ish so signals only have to travel that distance vs. the 15K miles for geostationary - but they're moving super fast. 7.7 km/s is like 17000 mph; the phased array antenna is required just to keep lock.

On the other hand - while I'm no sort of ECM expert, phase lock on a super fast object is probably pretty easy to disrupt. I can see all manner of ways to monkey with it ranging from the ways which GPS gets disrupted (multipath effects and obstructions i.e. trees or chaff) to active attacks: take the original signal and rebroadcast it randomly - multipath but manmade and with a temporal component; jamming since anyone can just buy a Starlink and use it to figure out where and how the spread spectrum operates, etc.

Even the satellites themselves are far more vulnerable to interdiction because they're so low.

Posted by: c1ue | May 29 2022 12:32 utc | 233

@juliania #228
Re: infrastructure
The US seems far more concerned over "don't say gay" and putting out "alphabet people ideology" affirming videos on Tiktok than anything else.

I do strongly believe that one of the unanticipated consequences of COVID school shutdowns was exposing parents to just what their kids are being taught.

Posted by: c1ue | May 29 2022 12:36 utc | 234

RSH@102..if they stop, they will have to do it again at some point. Just watching how the Cancel Russia rolled out, obviously it was parked on a shelf ready to go...seems they didn't expect the Russian ante.

Your thoughts on the proposed delivery of ballistic rocket systems to Orcville. BS bluff.....or Madmen at the Helm?

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 29 2022 12:40 utc | 235

... I don’t know about the orientation issue, but the Starlink antenna is a VERY advanced phased array ... I suspect these characteristics and the potential direct satellite-to-satellite links makes this a dual use system from the get go.
Posted by: BillB | May 29 2022 11:08 utc | 223

Agreed. A suspicious person might simply assume that the following already exists and is in (covert) use:

“US military wants SpaceX to create a miniature, battery-powered Starlink dish”

Posted by: anon2020 | May 29 2022 12:47 utc | 236

On 24.02.22, I mentioned to an acquaintance who had property in Kherson region, that she had better be prepared to change her postal address. Now she will have to change her SIM card too, as the mobile system is changing - new SIMs, new RBL tariff, and it's now +7, not +380. When she goes on holiday there, she will need a Russian bank account as her UK cards will not work. Just getting there will be a problem. All utilities, banking etc, but with sanctions it will be difficult and more expensive. First get to Russia, then by train, then document problems... I wonder how her Ukrainian passport is going to work. I never asked if she had a Russian one too... and she (still) supports Zelenski/Elenski!

Posted by: Kaiama | May 29 2022 12:51 utc | 237

@K, 202

You’re not missing anything, everyone you know seems to missing pieces of the Elon Puzzle. Dude is a joke. He has never invented anything other than his personality (which is totally fake). Dude’s parents were emerald mine owners in Apartheid South Africa, and he took their money and bought Tesla, along with the title ‘Founder’. He indeed never founded anything at all. Dude is as fake as they come. So you got it right!

Posted by: Caveman | May 29 2022 12:54 utc | 238

ph @ 159

Yes. I would also say a message to the Baltics, Poland, etc

Posted by: financial matters | May 29 2022 12:56 utc | 239

Posted by: bevin | May 28 2022 17:46 utc | 16

Someone trying to breed megayachts?

"Like many products of intense line breeding, mega yachts often have fertility issues, and due to their size, mating usually involves damage to both parents. If a mating is indeed successful, and after a gestation period of 24 months, the female gives birth to 12-20 jet skis, which, through a series of molts that takes another year, finally turn into sports boats. This phase is critical, as the young are prone to accidents, theft, and motor damage, and require intense attention. Usually, less than half make it through the first year.
the following years are easier on the boat breeder, although he needs to pay close attention: few of the yachtlets have the genes for super-size, and he needs to cull his herd, selling off those boats that likely won't make it past a very large or great final size in order to offset the high costs of raising a herd of boats: They all need to be moved and cared for, and with growing size, a yacht requires more fuel and personnel. So good judgment on who to keep and who to sell is critical. As is common with large organisms, the growth rate diminishes over time, so it takes years or even decades until the yacht breeder will either reap the fruit of his patience, or find to his disappointment that his prized ship falls short of the parents' phenomenal size.
The exceptional requirement of time and resources as well as experience in boat husbandry makes yacht breeding a hobby reserved for the very, very rich, comparable to dino polo or golf-on-mars."

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Back to business!

Posted by: Eike | May 29 2022 13:01 utc | 240

c1ue@227.....after having bank accounts frozen over political ideology based on fake science.....please explain what real money is, and who owns it. All the money I have has the Queen's seal so she really is kind to allow me to use 'her' money to keep myself housed and fed.

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 29 2022 13:05 utc | 241

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 29 2022 2:39 utc | 164

Could you please link to any analysis you have from Patrick Armstrong written after that post you refer to. He was very well placed to comment on the Ukrainian crisis and the comments he made just at the start of the war were prescient.

I sense the war hysteria dying down and we in the West are now starting to sober up. So Mr Armstrong may soon find himself able to raise his head above the parapet and resume his work. His fellow Canadian based analyst, Professor Robinson, who also stopped for a while, seems now to be doing that.

Posted by: English Outsider | May 29 2022 13:06 utc | 242

Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance between the Vatican, the CIA, and the Mafia

by Paul L Williams

The Vatican Bank used to launder CIA money for 15 percent commission.

Today, just about any bank will do it for less.

Deregulation lifts all boats. /S

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | May 29 2022 13:10 utc | 243

Miles Mathis outed Elon Musk years ago as an intelligence fake, an interesting piece.

Posted by: Quanah | May 29 2022 13:18 utc | 244

Sean @ 238

One of the major tenants of MMT is that the governments ability to impose taxes and fines gives money legitimacy as people need to come up with it to satisfy these obligations.

As with other things the US and Canada are abusing this power thus further delegitimizing these currencies and helping to strengthen the ruble, yuan etc.

As juliana mentions above (228), these currencies are backed by a covenant of social respect.

Posted by: financial matters | May 29 2022 13:18 utc | 245

@sean the leprechaun #238
I'll post over in the Open Thread. This isn't really the appropriate forum to talk about that.

Posted by: c1ue | May 29 2022 13:26 utc | 246

Dude is as fake as they come. Posted by: Caveman | May 29 2022 12:54 utc | 235


Not entirely fake. Elon is a stalking horse, empowered by mysterious agency.

The Starlink system is rumored to have fundamental mesh routing problems that went unresolved in order to push the project forward, along with the firing of scores of engineers.

Masayoshi Son's Softbank and actors like Bill Hwang have been magical for Mr. Musk.

Posted by: too scents | May 29 2022 13:28 utc | 247

“Let our Nazis go!”

They whelp, to the pharaoh Putin.

“Before they all spill the beans to save their lives and go enjoy their wages as we promised them they would”

Meanwhile as the narrative of a single Russian being responsible for all things Russia falls apart amongst the propagandised Collective Waste - Murdoch leads the new message - ‘he doesn’t exist! He is died! He is impersonated! There are ‘other’ powers who run Russia’

Cognitive Dissonance caught in its formation.

Happy Sunday y’all.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 29 2022 13:28 utc | 248

Posted by: financial matters | May 29 2022 13:18 utc | 242

No. They're backed by nothing more or less than military force.
The evidence is all around us.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 29 2022 13:41 utc | 249

Eike @237
At last! A scientific explanation. And a very ingenious one too.

Posted by: bevin | May 29 2022 13:41 utc | 250

The Starlink system is rumored to have fundamental mesh routing problems ... Posted by: too scents | May 29 2022 13:28 utc | 244


To clarify, inter-satellite routing requires a massive terrestrial component.

SNs are fundamentally different from terrestrial networks: the topology changes perpetually as satellites fly over ground stations and move relative to each other, requiring con- stant re-routing within the SN. At first glance, it may appear that these physical-layer changes within an SN are an entirely internal matter for the SN, which can be safely ignored by peers. However, three factors make it difficult for an SN to abstract away its quirky physical-layer characteristics from network peers and cause prob- lems in the external connectivity


We investigate the above challenges in detail, illustrating the
difficulty of integrating SN-based transit into Internet routing. To
this end, we take readers on a journey through a series of four
routing approaches, starting with simply having a satellite-network
autonomous system (SN-AS) participate in Border Gateway Proto-
col (BGP) routing. The poor performance and routing instability of
this first-cut approach motivates our other designs, which expose
different tradeoffs in cost for the SN-AS

Posted by: too scents | May 29 2022 13:54 utc | 251

Miles Mathis outed Elon Musk years ago as an intelligence fake, an interesting piece.

Posted by: Quanah | May 29 2022 13:18 utc | 241

Ha! I've often thought that Miles is also Intelligence fake, but he writes original, provocative stuff. Not being a billionaire myself I really don't know how things work (or not) on that level. Clearly most of it is faked, but presumably some of it is real. Like I have been assuming he is Intelligence/Sponsored but also smart. I guess one could add to that, 'but so what?' The fact that he has been planted and displayed as a brilliant libertarian Ayn Randy hero is all we need to know.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 29 2022 13:54 utc | 252

Latest snippet:

Eurasia & Multipolarity, [29/05/2022 14:21]
⚡️Representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting secret negotiations with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the burial of their dead. And about surrender. Negotiations were crowned with success, according to Grouping "O".

@sashakots (

Posted by: Barofsky | May 29 2022 13:59 utc | 253

Posted by: Scorpion | May 29 2022 13:54 utc | 249

Re the Musk piece:

Interesting that when I tried to D/L it, Firefox told me the file was a security risk, I ignored the warning.

Posted by: Barofsky | May 29 2022 14:02 utc | 254

Eva Bartlett = truth from a Modigliani-esqe beauty!

Posted by: Garry Owen | May 29 2022 14:07 utc | 255

@too scents #248
I don't know about massive - the whole point of IP protocol is that it is much more resilient. I would think all Starlink really needs is its server side to have longer retention times for IP packets due to the potential for longer satellite connection disruptions vs. the largely passthrough functionality that typical servers employ.

Posted by: c1ue | May 29 2022 14:10 utc | 256

sln @ 246

Very true and this also helps give the power to tax and fine.

But as the western world has shown this can also be abused and has been used as a license to pillage.

Posted by: financial matters | May 29 2022 14:14 utc | 257

Posted by: emersonreturn | May 29 2022 5:38 utc | 197

"scorpion@149. like many, i too have circled this maze for many months/years. ... we are indeed living in interesting times. nothing is going as certain supposed it always would. i suppose it's possible the empire of lies might win, bt i expect good will overcome evil. & that is (for me) what this is all about. biblical certainly, good & light. yes, certainly, a work in honour, intelligence, resources up against cunning, greed, envy & deceit. i have to believe light cannot bt win.

I just had an exchange with my old friend Roger who runs the site. Years ago he was a well recognized voice in the One Democratic State movement for Israel but after a while he has moved on. I think he agrees with me that political Israelis are not 'agreement compatible' but he still believes that a one state solution is not only best but also at some point inevitable.

Anyway, I shared with him a little of my 'worriting' and this is his reply:

"Re your first concern, my tentative assessment is that technology is in charge and there's most likely a feeling on the part of the leadership that it's a matter of use it or lose it. As I've suggested before, what makes the difference that matters is their motivation. In the West, it's a desperate no holds barred intention to maintain their control of the levers of power that keeps the oligarchy on top, which requires "full spectrum dominance" of the whole world. Russia and China seem to me to be primarily concerned about the welfare of their countries and the great majority of their populations. This requires a multipolar world.

As for the J's, I have been pondering the same question. I lean toward the theory that what's playing out is the ancient impulse to actualize the promise God made to the Hebrews to bring them "full spectrum dominance' over the goyim - 'God' being the projection of the Jewish people, as gods are wont to be. So, yeah, the destruction of the Christian, European world would be the fulfillment of that. The ferocious, obsessive energy - and willingness to spend whatever it takes - behind that comes from the other side of the bipolar coin - the fear of being the eternal victims."

To which I replied:

"Thank you very much for that reply.

The technological imperative seems to have been in the mix since the age of flint tools. It's a human realm thing which only the truly spiritual seem to bypass.

And like all technologies it can - and will - be used for both good and bad purposes and engender good and bad outcomes. The surveillance aspect and now the ability to track every purchase and sale to specific individuals is bound to be abused and usher in some sort of global totalitarianism - one type of 'new' or 'one' world order. Not so good. At the same time it will allow billions of people to exist together with market economies which allow a good percentage of those billions to produce goods and services of their own initiative many of which can travel easily from one jurisdiction or culture to another. A boon.

Just as with technology swinging both ways, so also human beings, each of us oscillating between heaven and hell realm tendencies day by day. And so with nations. And so with the J's. Clearly, the US and the West have been subject to deliberate undermining for some time.

As you know, one of my theories about this is that if a nation has a healthy core this is like having a good immune system which can easily repel borders, but when they lose that core character and life force they are prone to being ravaged by no end of different internal and external pathogens. So even if it is true that J's are behind much of what ails the US and West politically and culturally, first of all there are lots of non J's helping them either overtly, covertly or simply doing the same thing in entirely different social networks and second the reason such subterfuges gain any traction is because of the moral weakness of the host country.

The fact is that Western civilization has come into a good deal of criticism as part of this initiative but not all of it is without merit. Much of course is good old-fashioned narrative spin: the truth exaggerated for effect. But again: that such barbs land home is a function of underlying moral and other wobbliness which is the original sin here as it were.

The racism story for example is clearly not fair factually and yet it hits home sowing no end of doubt because there are aspects of Western ignorance and arrogance which do regard all others as inferior (just like just about every other tribe, nation or race in the history of Mankind!!) and which does merit reflection. People have doubts about their humanity, masculinity, femininity, morality, courage, wisdom, weaknesses, evil, mortality, nations, families, futures, livelihood. Again, we all struggle between heaven and hell every moment of every day so a certain amount of uncertainty and doubt is the lot of anyone with a thinking, feeling mind-heart matrix. That's being human. But that doubt can always be exploited by those with the skills and motivation to do so.

Well, I hope your characterization of China and Russia is on the money. Thus far with the Ukraine kinetic operation Russia seems to be doing a truly exemplary job and with each passing week I sense power draining from the Empire of Lies as their excessive dependency on deceit is exposed in part by Russia's almost excessive reliance on telling the truth and walking their own talk: if they say they are going to do something, they do it. When they say that one way or another their mission will succeed and there is no doubt about this it is believable coming from their mouths although something like that coming from any Western leader wouldn't be credible in the slightest. In a way, Biden is the perfect last President - complete and total fraud and liar!

Trump (the Great Enigma) believed he could make America Great again and in some sense proved that he could have if given more of a chance, moreover he demonstrated how rapidly things can change for the better as happened on his watch - albeit only briefly because of subterfuge - with trade, wages and employment for example. I was surprised at how quickly things can turn around with a nation of 300,000,000. But Biden knows that everything he says is a lie; he is a bought and paid for agent of collapse and his entire family are up to their eyeballs in high-level graft and post-communist, aka 'globalista' subterfuge.

So what is happening to the US involves subterfuge as well as organic decadence with no doubt heavy input from many powerful, internationally linked J (but again not only J) networks and although this is mainly based only on suspicion I betcha that China and Russia have indeed played a part in this - (remember all those stories of Obama being Frank Davis' son and his being groomed early on in life for the Presidency as a Manchurian agent to bring down the Empire, a project now seemingly about to reach its goal with Obama's sidekick?).

But if China and Russia are involved, they are not Angels in White sent to rescue the world from Satan as many supporters are now projecting. They are a mixed bag too (again because of human nature). That said, I think your characterization is more or less right: generally speaking the US needs a reboot - big-time - as it's become a total mess with power projection from certain elite networks no longer acceptable to the rest of the world's peoples who want to assume responsibility for their own destinies under their own steam and no longer wish to pay Empire Tax on everything; and meanwhile Eurasia is poised to rise - indeed is already lifting off and can no longer accept the Western credit cartel shackles - and such rise will benefit billions. The West is standing in their way and needs comeuppance.

So generally speaking the confrontation is overdue and generally speaking if they can put the Empire back on its heels enough to get its captured people to have a long-overdue rethink about what their core character and principles are (it will take a while) then the rest of the world can move forward into a brave new multipolar destiny albeit with the albatross of ubiquitous surveillance tech hanging around its neck which no doubt is going to cause some very serious, if not downright nightmarish, problems."

Posted by: Scorpion | May 29 2022 14:25 utc | 258

the whole point of IP protocol is that it is much more resilient. ... Posted by: c1ue | May 29 2022 14:10 utc | 256


The coupling between the terrestrial and satellite can be said to have an impedance mismatch between the two different physical networks.

This mismatch presents an obvious vulnerability.

The linked paper is short, informative and interesting.

Posted by: too scents | May 29 2022 14:32 utc | 259

@cirsium | May 28 2022 23:19 utc | 124

From Germany I reach Strategic Culture through Fennec Browser with Psiphon VPN. Opera VPN, however, does not work.

Posted by: Bagradian | May 29 2022 14:33 utc | 260

@too scents, 247

Whoa you clearly have a better understanding of tech stuff than I do. I’m just not sure how brilliant Elon is in a technical sense compared to a business sense (which in my mind is nonsense in general.) He positions himself as some sort of tech genius, but is he one really? To me it seems like a ruse, and one that seems to easily fool people.

Posted by: Caveman | May 29 2022 14:42 utc | 261

@ too scent, @ caveman 261

Not that people can’t be good at nonsense, I suppose. The Red Hot Chili Peppers are quite successful, after all!

Posted by: Caveman | May 29 2022 14:50 utc | 262

English Outsider | May 29 2022 13:06 utc | 242

This is the link to Armstrong's blog Russian Observer.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 29 2022 15:10 utc | 263

Posted by: too scents | May 29 2022 13:28 utc | 244
Posted by: too scents | May 29 2022 13:54 utc | 251

Great info, many thanks.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 29 2022 15:33 utc | 264

To all who have issues getting to Strategic Culture:

they had to block access from several IP ranges (mainly from north America) due to DDoS attacks on their site beginning at the end of February. So that is the reason that a lot of people are unable to access it.

You can simply get a free VPN for your browser to get around that.

A good one is Windscribe, you can get 1GB or 10GB every month free from them (depending on whether you confirm your email or not). That should be plenty for just accessing websites, certainly not enough if you intend to stream movies or stuff like that.

You can get it here:

As said, the browser plugin is sufficient, no need to install any software to your device.

If you want to sign-up, you can also use my referral link so that we both get another 1GB for free:

You can also use the free beta VPN of the Brave browser or any other service but most of them will email you daily to upgrade to a paid service, don't do that just to access websites.

Let me know if you've any problems and I'm happy to help.

Posted by: zet | May 29 2022 15:38 utc | 265

@ English Outsider | May 29 2022 13:06 utc | 242

thanks for pointing out the irrussianality site is back in action... he was adamant he wasn't coming back... here is a link for anyone else interested..

Posted by: james | May 29 2022 15:41 utc | 266

@ Scorpion

At the end of the day, all countries deserve the rulers and regimes that they have.

All the whining about American elites is just a self-serving diversion from the uncomfortable truth that these elites are only an organic reflection of America as a nation.

This is especially true for the USA, where millions of Americans vote for sociopathic war criminals--again and again and again.

Thus, in the last election, tens of millions of Americans voted for or supported the Red State war criminal, Donald Trump, while tens of millions of more Americans voted for or supported the Blue State war criminal, Joe Biden.

American elites are sociopaths and mass murderers, but they are as American as apple pie.

In fact, Americans have no problem voting for and supporting war criminals. They only want successful war criminals who will more effectively perpetuate the American Empire and the parasitic American way of life itself.

Posted by: ak74 | May 29 2022 17:23 utc | 267

Posted by: Quanah | May 29 2022 13:18 utc | 244

I looked at Mathis website where he claims fundamental new discoveries among which the fact that "calculus gets a lot of derivatives wrong".

As an example he criticizes the usual derivation of the derivative of the logarithm. It becomes apparent that the he does not understand the notion of continuity (of the logarithm function) and how it is used in the derivation.

In other words he lacks basic first quarter calculus. Then he goes on to pontificate on basically all fundamental theories of physics.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: bottle | May 29 2022 19:51 utc | 268

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 29 2022 2:28 utc | 164

Me too. ;-))

Posted by: Olivier | May 29 2022 20:46 utc | 269

Instead : Guy Debord, La société du spectacle. ....
No surprise, gg will spy on you, if you want to see this film. ....
Posted by: Olivier | May 28 2022 23:34 utc | 128

There is a non-google dubbed english version on Vimeo.

And a German CC version

Posted by: Opport Knocks | May 29 2022 20:56 utc | 270

The Vatican Bank used to launder CIA money for 15 percent commission.

Today, just about any bank will do it for less.

Deregulation lifts all boats. /S

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | May 29 2022 13:10 utc | 243

Perhaps that is why they and the NSA invented Bitcoin.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | May 29 2022 21:29 utc | 271

Deregulation lifts all yachts.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 29 2022 22:07 utc | 272

(again because of human nature). (..) generally speaking the US needs a reboot

Posted by: Scorpion | May 29 2022 14:25 utc | 258

I beg to differ.

First: I think it is very pretentious to speak about the "human nature". Even arrogant imo. What do you know about humanity outside the society in which you were educated and are living?

Second: US will never reboot. It is not part of their ideology of exceptionalism. They treat the rest of the world like they treated the Amerindians. We know Pompeo's words: "We cheated, we lied, we stole." Correction: we cheat, we lie, we steal, we kill, we loot, we wag war and so on. Currently the US are owned by the judeo-neocons. That was the reboot. They think that they are very superior to the rest of humanity. That they have all the rights. It is in the bible.

Only it is becoming funny: they are kind of panicking:

Posted by: Olivier | May 29 2022 22:51 utc | 273

Posted by: Opport Knocks | May 29 2022 20:56 utc | 270


Posted by: Olivier | May 29 2022 22:53 utc | 274

In fact, Americans have no problem voting for and supporting war criminals. They only want successful war criminals who will more effectively perpetuate the American Empire and the parasitic American way of life itself.

Posted by: ak74 | May 29 2022 17:23 utc | 267

Yes and Trump was just as big a war criminal as the rest, despite the spin.

"Trump (the Great Enigma) believed he could make America Great again and in some sense proved that he could have if given more of a chance, moreover he demonstrated how rapidly things can change for the better as happened on his watch - albeit only briefly because of subterfuge - with trade, wages and employment for example."

i doubt you will resolve your China Russia dilemma while you are still believe that Trump is a sincere actor. Things only got better in the US in the world of spin, not on the ground. Do you understand how long it takes to get manufacturing, retooling back after its been gone for 20 years? To retrain people, to find markets that are used to cheaper products? Maybe in 2 terms of a president if there was a concerted will. Then there is education, as Juliana referenced, generations of poorly educated Americans. and on and on.

Now that you've explained your position in more detail, which I appreciate, I can see where you are stuck and 100% it ain't on on the sincerity of China or Russia. You will never understand or accept the different possibilities while still believing the system in the US can produce an honest president. imho. You will project US corruption onto the entire globe and doubt everyone.

People still want to believe in Trump so that they can continue to believe in the "American" system. That's what a reality TV/ beauty pageant president is for. To restore faith in the things that really matter. LOL Pardon my sarcasm.
Trump was as intentional a president with as much support from the relevant faction as all the ones before him. Given the appointment of Pompeo and his NY origins, my guess is that the CIA mafia was the supporting faction for Trump, but I don't know and it makes no difference.

I believe that great human beings sometimes rise to the top, and Putin and Xie are good examples, not of shiny saints but of servants of the people, but it cannot happen in a corrupt system. Therefore it is the system that needs to change significantly enough that corruption can be at least controlled back into a corner box (as in Russia) if not eliminated.

Posted by: K | May 30 2022 0:07 utc | 275

Eurasia & Multipolarity, [30/05/2022 13:18]

Kiev regime suspected of trafficking in children's organs

In liberated Mariupol, hundreds of strange medical records of children have been found at a Red Cross base. The "medical records" contain no indication of diseases and treatment, but they include lists of "healthy organs". Earlier, Anna Kuznetsova, deputy speaker of the Russian State Duma, spoke about the disappearance of children from an orphanage in territory liberated from the Nazis. The children are believed to have been smuggled to the EU.

Earlier, politician Mikhail Saakashvili was accused of human organ trafficking in Ukraine. Participants in the combat operations spoke about the disappearance of wounded soldiers taken from the battlefield. There was talk of black market transplantologists supplying organs to Europe and the USA. In 2014-2015, Donbass militias found mass graves of civilians with their organs cut out.

The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation is verifying information about the removal of organs from children in Ukraine as part of criminal cases concerning crimes by the Kiev regime, and investigators are carrying out work.

@russtrat (

Posted by: Barofsky | May 30 2022 12:22 utc | 276

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