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May 26, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-74
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict … The open thread for other issues is here.
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@ Jpc | May 26 2022 17:42 utc | 55 Posted by: james | May 27 2022 5:34 utc | 201 @BroncoBilly | May 27 2022 0:09 utc | 147 Posted by: aquadraht | May 27 2022 5:37 utc | 202 I hadn’t run into this guy before, but got it from the latest Saker sitrep. He’s been cited here in this thread already as stating that Wagner was part of the latest developments – I’m not going there, but I enjoyed his video because he shows in very clear and granular detail how the overarching Russian methods of warfaring have played out and are playing out (and speculatively, may play out) in the Donbass theater: Posted by: Grieved | May 27 2022 5:59 utc | 203 Posted by: Citron | May 27 2022 5:24 utc | 198 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 6:08 utc | 204 Can somebody explain what this display of amazing “fireworks” is? Posted by: ct | May 27 2022 6:08 utc | 205 Posted by: ct | May 27 2022 6:08 utc | 203 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 6:18 utc | 206 i thought this sums up ukie army. guys on moped laughing at guys on tractor. while we laugh at both. thats some billions there. never let the boss buy cocaine before putting in the tank and truck order Posted by: hankster | May 27 2022 6:20 utc | 207 You might find this thread amusing Posted by: Hidari | May 27 2022 6:25 utc | 208 Can you believe the Washington Post published this?
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 6:26 utc | 209 One more point, as Mark Ames pointed, out the West really f***ed up by wasting time and money sending javelins etc. to the Ukraine when the Ukies were crying out for heavy artillery. That artillery is now coming, but it’s far too little and far too late. By the time the Ukies have learned to use it, the war will be over. Posted by: Hidari | May 27 2022 6:28 utc | 210 Posted by: Hidari | May 27 2022 6:25 utc | 206 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 6:30 utc | 211 uhg, typing too fasty… “worthg” s/b “worthy”…”my” s/b “why” Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 6:32 utc | 212 @hidari Posted by: ct | May 27 2022 6:35 utc | 213 @ct #203 Posted by: Billb | May 27 2022 6:49 utc | 214 Posted by: Andrew B. | May 27 2022 0:44 utc | 155 Posted by: auximenes | May 27 2022 6:53 utc | 215 Maybe this is the way things will really go? Posted by: Stonebird | May 27 2022 7:42 utc | 216 @malenkov | May 26 2022 23:46 utc | 140
Yes, that would be something. But, an unapologetic hypocrite like Jens will simply present it as renewed reason for NATO’s existence, that is the only real objective they are serving anyway. Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 7:43 utc | 217 Posted by: Billb | May 27 2022 6:49 utc | 212 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 7:48 utc | 218 @Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 0:42 utc | 154
They are counting the inventory, in an environment of massive propaganda there are now many bridges to be sold. Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 7:53 utc | 219 something that I was unaware of…. Posted by: michaelj72 | May 27 2022 7:54 utc | 220 PavewayIV@172 Posted by: Krollchem | May 27 2022 7:57 utc | 221 Interesting: Posted by: Mikkael | May 27 2022 8:08 utc | 222 “And amongst the heads of state there is only one who is standing up against the forces of evil. Don’t count on Boris Johnson in England. Don’t count on Macron in France. Don’t count on Draghi in Italy. It’s Vladimir Putin! Who may be no angel and no saint, but nevertheless is a man of intelligence and great courage. And as the head of Russia, he has the means to stand up against the one world government,” Posted by: Citizenfitz | May 27 2022 8:14 utc | 223 @Andrew B. | May 27 2022 0:44 utc | 155
I found this section more interesting than what has been cited earlier:
Clearly, the Russians are significantly smarter than what NATO have thought. Or is NATO just using the ukrainians as expendables in order to learn? Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 8:21 utc | 224 Grieved | May 27 2022 5:59 utc | 201 Posted by: Stonebird | May 27 2022 8:22 utc | 225 Ukrainian Ambassador to Berlin Andriy Melnyk attacked German leader at Davos saying German Chancellor Olaf Scholz lacks courage and leadership. He also accused him of delaying on sending heavy weapons to Ukraine, meanwhile George Soros said at Davos that Russia must be defeated. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 8:34 utc | 226 This from the head of the ECB who was found guilty of negligence in 2016 but suffered no consequences as such, she is a Bilderberger and a Atlantic Council member, and WEF board trustee. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 8:42 utc | 227 Posted by: Mikkael | May 27 2022 8:08 utc | 220 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 8:46 utc | 228 Ukrainian Gestapo agents (SBU) captured during checks near Kharkov. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 8:47 utc | 229 @Karl luck | May 27 2022 4:34 utc | 195
Consider the fact that “covid” wasn’t something that was an unlucky event causing innocent problems, but an integral part of the “bunch of conflicting bull shit” that succeeded more spectacularly than imagined and thus backfired astronomically along with the other failures you mention. Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 8:52 utc | 230 The self-proclaimed world police’s (USA) belligerent bully boy gang Nato will move its “defence line” to the Pacific Region, even the EU is thinking of expanding its remit (military wise) to the region, the gall of this lot is staggering who gave them the right to police the world as they see fit. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 8:53 utc | 231 @Mikkael #5 Posted by: Per Terram | May 27 2022 9:19 utc | 232 On ‘missing’ tons of plutonium etc:
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 27 2022 10:07 utc | 233 Jacob Driezin has two more videos out…
Donbass: Up to 16,000 Ukrainian personnel about to be cut off in one or more cauldrons in Lugansk
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 10:08 utc | 234
Earlier in the week we got bombed by a DDoS attack from the US and Germany. So we had to temporarily restrict access from that direction. Now things have stabilised, so for now the restriction has been lifted 🙂 Posted by: Oliver Richardson | May 27 2022 10:13 utc | 235 Posted by: Oliver Richardson | May 27 2022 10:13 utc | 233 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 10:33 utc | 236 From Stalkerzone Web site… a reminder that the SMO is going well…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 10:41 utc | 237 ‘Something’ happened to Gonzalo Lira’s normal internet connection in Kharkov according to a short message Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 10:41 utc | 238 This is probably getting old, but here’s another instance of Ukrainian ammo being stored inside a school (indoor gym), found by Chechen fighters in Toshkovka: video. Posted by: S | May 27 2022 10:44 utc | 239 From Gonzalo Lira’s Twitter account, a reference to this thread on Twitter about another set of “game-changers”… Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 10:49 utc | 240 @Norwegian | May 27 2022 10:41 utc | 236
Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 10:55 utc | 241 Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 10:41 utc | 236
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 10:55 utc | 242 Posted by: Norwegian | May 27 2022 10:55 utc | 239 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 27 2022 10:56 utc | 243 Like smearing more old lipstick on a dying fat pig: Posted by: Per Terram | May 27 2022 11:05 utc | 244 Vladimir Putin addressed the plenary session of the 1st Eurasian Economic Forum Posted by: Gerrard White | May 27 2022 11:13 utc | 245 Replying to RepublicofScotland @225: Posted by: tPaine | May 27 2022 11:51 utc | 246 Boris Johnson is now talking about creating a “European Commonwealth” between the UK and Ukraine + the Baltics etc. as an alliance against Russia. https://www.teletrader.com/johnson-pitched-europe-alliance-idea-to-zelensky-report/news/details/57955770?ts=1653652920603 Posted by: Jonathan W | May 27 2022 12:07 utc | 247 Well, now that the Davos week has come to an end IMHO, apart from Kissinger’s speech, the rest was just empty rhetoric. There was nothing substantial from any of the speakers. Just blah blah blah blah empty weasle words with no focus, no intelligent comments or insights, no purpose and completely lacking in Statesmanship of any kind. Just a bunch of complete and utter idiots we call our Leaders in the West wanting to here and liking the sound of their own voices all the while looking like the empty garbage cans that they are. Set against that of course, was Putin’s excellent address to the first Plenary Session of the Eurasian Economic Forum which was full of information, strategy, economic integration and the way forward. Davos has completely lost any relevance. Posted by: Jo Dominich | May 27 2022 12:10 utc | 248 Jonathan@245….so that would be a Brexin? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 27 2022 12:45 utc | 249 Sociopaths engage in word salad to disorientate their victims and status-signal to the higher ranked sociopaths in the group. Amongst other techniques. Posted by: moaobserver | May 27 2022 12:52 utc | 250 I think the West baited Russia into this conflict on the assumption that the economic “shock and awe” approach of sanctions, withdrawal of companies, boycott of Russian goods, and the economic “nuclear” option of exclusion from Swift would break Russia in no time. There is no Plan B as they were so sure of their flawed calculus. They didn’t expect it to fail and they certainly didn’t expect the strategy to backfire so spectacularly. Hence the comical flailing about now by “leaders” such as Biden, Von Der Leyen, Scholtz, Johnson et al. It’s bad when Henry Kissinger is the voice of reason. Posted by: Donal | May 27 2022 13:03 utc | 251 @ Grieved | May 27 2022 5:59 utc | 201 Posted by: malenkov | May 27 2022 13:09 utc | 252 @ 243 Putin- SWIFT will die
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 27 2022 13:11 utc | 253 “The NATOstan buffoons appear to have believed all they needed to do was throw enough s*** at Russia and it’d be checkmate…. Game over.” Posted by: Doug Hillman | May 27 2022 13:18 utc | 254 Thank you, Grieved (201). Added to top of watch list. Posted by: Doug Hillman | May 27 2022 13:30 utc | 255 AP: ‘Relentless’: Russia squeezes Ukrainian strongholds in east Posted by: Don Bacon | May 27 2022 13:35 utc | 256 Posted by: Donal | May 27 2022 13:03 utc | 249 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 27 2022 13:43 utc | 257 When the Romans decided to attack Carthage in Africa, Scipio. the Roman general, took a Posted by: nick | May 27 2022 13:46 utc | 258 Posted by: Jonathan W | May 27 2022 12:07 utc | 245 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 27 2022 13:54 utc | 259 “BreXit freed Britain from the EU machinery and let it be unbound.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 14:02 utc | 260 @Peter AU1 #107 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 14:21 utc | 261 @Mathew Palmieri #111 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 14:25 utc | 262 Posted by: Linda Wood | May 27 2022 2:46 utc | 179 Posted by: Arkady Bogdanov | May 27 2022 14:30 utc | 263 @Patroklos #129 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 14:32 utc | 264 Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 14:02 utc | 258 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 27 2022 14:35 utc | 265 Latest on the biolabs:
Posted by: Barofsky | May 27 2022 14:35 utc | 266 @uncle tungsten #191 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 14:38 utc | 267 ct @ 203 Posted by: oldhippie | May 27 2022 14:44 utc | 268 @Per Terram #230 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 14:44 utc | 269 @Grieved | May 27 2022 5:59 utc | 201 Posted by: the pessimist | May 27 2022 14:46 utc | 270 @nick #256 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 14:50 utc | 271 The hybrid/proxy war being waged by the US against Russia over Ukraine does not enjoy the unanimous support of the US population. There is a significant number who see through the BS, as now reflected in the Republican Party politicians, who are breaking away, including Trump. The war policy is being driven by the Neocons who began to infiltrate government at the policy level under Reagan, who penetrated the B. Clinton administration, who perpetrated 9/11, and who took over the Democratic Party under Obama/H.Clinton, and now Biden. When asked “Who are the Neocons?” G.H.W. Bush answered “Israel”. So now we need to ask why the Neocons so desperately want Ukraine, even at the cost of WWIII? Posted by: Richard | May 27 2022 15:01 utc | 272 Okay, meanwhile in 404 land… Posted by: Arioch | May 27 2022 15:02 utc | 273 @the pessimist #268 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 15:02 utc | 274 These idiots are so convinced they will win they double the stakes each time – it is the Politics of The Gambler and the Voters give them endless chips mortgaged on their own lives Posted by: Jpc | May 27 2022 15:02 utc | 275 German press hated Grenell from USA Posted by: sln2002 | May 27 2022 15:13 utc | 276 Beyond “clown world” and “you can’t make this up…”:
CNN/Guardian are publishing this tripe produced by some “genocide experts” from “New Lines Institute” (of the Colombian nose candy variety?). Posted by: Bloke from block 8 | May 27 2022 15:14 utc | 277 Paul Greenwood (263). Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:14 utc | 278 @c1ue | May 27 2022 15:02 utc | 272 Posted by: the pessimist | May 27 2022 15:19 utc | 279 Posted by: Doug Hillman | May 27 2022 13:18 utc | 252 Posted by: pretzelattack | May 27 2022 15:22 utc | 280 @c1ue | May 27 2022 15:02 utc | 272 Posted by: the pessimist | May 27 2022 15:24 utc | 281 Russia may have found a way to avoid defaulting on its bonds debt, its has the funds to pay its debts, but US Treasury Department revoked it licence, the main route of payment. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:25 utc | 282 “and ex-pats are wondering why life in the EU has gotten tougher.” Posted by: Arganthonios | May 27 2022 15:29 utc | 283 Posted by: the pessimist | May 27 2022 15:19 utc | 276 Posted by: Barofsky | May 27 2022 15:29 utc | 284 The Ottawa (Canada) ambassador Larisa Galadza to Ukraine makes an admission. It looks like the Donbas/Russian conflict has been long in the planning with the help of Canada. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:33 utc | 285 If having an army supported by the United States with the best equipment, advising, training and military intelligence – and even /airpower/ – was the difference maker in a conflict between two countries, then South Korea would just be “Korea” and the capital of “Vietnam” would be called Saigon. Posted by: Ursula Zandt | May 27 2022 15:35 utc | 286 UK wants to use Baltic States plus Poland to isolate France and Germany within EU and if possible facilitate war between Germany and Russia. Macron is fighting against this. Posted by: Arganthonios | May 27 2022 15:39 utc | 287 Arganthonios (280). Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:40 utc | 288 The US trained the Afghan army for over a decade, they lasted a few days after the US withdrew, despite better equipment than the Taliban and despite all that training. i wonder what that says about the prospects for success of the US/NATO against Russia. Posted by: pretzelattack | May 27 2022 15:44 utc | 289 >Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:40 utc | 285 Posted by: Arganthonios | May 27 2022 15:49 utc | 290 @Barofsky | May 27 2022 15:29 utc | 281 Posted by: the pessimist | May 27 2022 15:52 utc | 291 pretzelattack (286) Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:55 utc | 292 Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 15:55 utc | 293 Posted by: pretzelattack | May 27 2022 15:59 utc | 293 @the pessimist #280 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 16:36 utc | 294 @the pessimist #282 Posted by: c1ue | May 27 2022 16:40 utc | 295 “and ex-pats are wondering why life in the EU has gotten tougher.” Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 27 2022 17:11 utc | 296 @ the pessimist | May 27 2022 14:46 utc | 271 /280 and etc… Posted by: james | May 27 2022 17:12 utc | 297 Kent has become one gigantic lorry park for HGV’s trying to get into Europe. Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 27 2022 17:19 utc | 298 Paul Greenwood. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 27 2022 17:48 utc | 299 Reply to 282 Posted by: Eighthman | May 27 2022 18:12 utc | 300 |
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