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May 13, 2022

Ukraine Open Thread 2022-64

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict ...

The open thread for other stuff is here.

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Posted by: tucenz | May 14 2022 9:15 utc | 191Posted by: tucenz | May 14 2022 9:15 utc | 191

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Posted by: Paul | May 14 2022 10:50 utc | 201

@Norwegian 194

I guess the significance is that this is the first time since the start of the SMO, according to US sources at least, that the two MOD's have spoken

Previous negotiations between Russia and Ukraine came to nothing, it is said, because of US reluctance to approve Ukraine concessions, perhaps also because of Russian reluctance to place any faith in Ukraine's ability to negotiate in good faith and to deliver

Given all previous US bluster to pick up the phone can be considered a concession, a first blink

It is entirely possible that the curt discretion of the read out is purely face saving, in that the conversation may well have been more interesting or involving than the read out dares- it is said the two spoke for an hour or so - even if Mr Austin had little beyond the bland demands listed (as per the usual US do this do that) it is likely his counterpart had more something more informative to say

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 10:53 utc | 202

Paul @188

They make some damn good trombones in Elkhart, Indiana!!!

Posted by: Objective Observer | May 14 2022 11:07 utc | 203

>>>>: Stonebird | May 13 2022 18:36 utc | 19

One even had a rifle designed in 1892 !.
Are you referring to the Mosin–Nagant? Just to point out DNR/LNR forces seem to use it as their sniping weapon of choice when fitted with an optical sight. Accurate to 800m+ with single shot/kill round and it's simple, cheap and readily available.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | May 14 2022 11:08 utc | 204

Unless it's propaganda BS or military deception, no army would give such detailed information about future operations to a mere blogger, except perhaps the US Army fighting "brown people".

Propaganda BS - announce an operation that you don't intend to/can't carry out so people continue to believe you're winning.

Military deception - wouldn't try that on with the Russian Army.

Talk of certain social media celebrities having contacts in FSB and Russian MoD is misguided. Like Hezbollah, subject of similar claims, FSB and Russian MoD do not talk except through official channels and even then they say virtually nothing.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | May 14 2022 11:23 utc | 205

@Gerrard White | May 14 2022 10:53 utc | 196

I guess the significance is that this is the first time since the start of the SMO, according to US sources at least, that the two MOD's have spoken
Sure, but if anything it is what it implies that means something. If the war was going according to US liking, they would not make such a call.

Given all previous US bluster to pick up the phone can be considered a concession, a first blink
Yes, I agree.

Alex Christoforou talks about it in his morning update today
Austin calls Shoigu, Pentagon wants ceasefire. Elensky refuses to retreat. Gas prices soar. Update 1

Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2022 11:24 utc | 206

So trying to prove he's some kind of CIA plant is absurd.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 14 2022 4:24 utc | 162

Not trying to prove. Just voicing opinion. CIA run Ukraine. He's running around in there bad mouthing Nylands, Z, Western media etc. They brought him in and let him out. It's all fishy.

When I smell rotten fish I think:

Spook!

And anyway, didn't you get the memo?
We live in a post 'proof' world!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 11:25 utc | 207

Posted by: Objective Observer | May 14 2022 11:07 utc | 197

At last, INDI has returned to manufacturing. It all started with Studebaker making Conestoga Wagons, 'Westward Ho the Wagons', manifest destiny and all that.

Now it's back to circling the wagons.

Posted by: Paul | May 14 2022 11:32 utc | 208

Paul @202

Well...low brass is good for funeral dirges, too.

Posted by: Objective Observer | May 14 2022 11:42 utc | 209

Surely this is significant

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 8:52 utc | 189

SECDEF Austin looks like a cross between a potato and a pineapple. And has just about as much to say as one would expect from such parentage!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 11:44 utc | 210

Posted by: Objective Observer | May 14 2022 11:07 utc | 197

As an afterthought. Studebaker manufactured TWO electric cars that now operate in the US senate 100 years later. How'a that for being ahead of the curve?

Posted by: Paul | May 14 2022 11:51 utc | 211

This will bring AFU forces out in the open and away from Kharkhov. There they will be easy meat for the Allies.

Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 14 2022 9:17 utc | 193

Yup. Any exodus from their positions in the Grand Cauldron will put them into their own little custom-fit one tailor made for their destruction!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 11:51 utc | 212

james | May 13 2022 22:39 utc | 88

I had watched most of that video. At one point he mentioned the pontoon trucks looked to be undamaged, but better quality pics I have seen showed the cabs to be badly damaged.

The Rybar analysis posted by RSH is very similar to my take on it.

I don't know if it was a Russian planned or LPR planned operation but which ever, it was tried without sufficient assets to suppress Ukraine artillery and a lot of lives lost needlessly without achieving the goal.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 14 2022 11:58 utc | 213

Mosin–Nagant?

Ghost Ship | May 14 2022 11:08 utc | 198

Could be that. It makes more sense. In the "war" with the Donbass, snipers had a major role. Now that the fighting has become more artillery based, they will be less important.

I have however seen pictures taken earlier in the war of various WWII style arms being "played" with by Ukie troops. I doubt that those were used in earnest as the amount of ammunition kept in museums would be minimal.
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The amount of BS about upcoming "operations" is just MSM taken to a new level, but for the benefit of the same end audience. US and EU. (Potential donors?(
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One thing the Russian may have got right, is the Russian speaking Ukrainian's willingness to welcome them. Just that they under-estimated the control and level of fear the Azov were capable of inflicting on the civil population.

Once freed from them, the civilians (in Kherson etc) do not want the Russians to leave again. Logical, but unquantifiable for the moment. I suspect the Russian "slow but sure, but avoid unecessary casualties of civilians and Uke army" will still have a favourable impact on the end result. As more people realised they will be better off, the momentum towards a "finalé" without Zelensky and the Avov's will increase.

Posted by: Stonebird | May 14 2022 12:00 utc | 214

@Norwegian 200

Not so long ago, April 25, in Europe, Lloyd Austin was talking about permanently weakening Russia: WAPO described this, wistfully, as a 'sharpening of rhetoric'

This phone call may not be 180° turnaround, but it's a major tack

There have been recent, May 11, calls for more realism in the NYT (Ukraine War’s Geographic Reality: Russia Has Seized Much of the East, America and Its Allies Want to Bleed Russia. They Really Shouldn’t.)


It appears that a certain faction of the US ruling class is edging way from the nonsense talk and dipping a toe into diplomacy - the fact that it's the Secretary of Defense is significant, for the Pentagon retains some slight credibility when compared to all other talking heads, and one may guess that the Russians would not give the time of day to those

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 12:37 utc | 215

Posted by: karlof1 | May 13 2022 21:19 utc | 56

We are in WWIII.
And it is heading towards nuclear conflict for the reasons set out in karlof1's above post.

If the public can be convinced that the Nazis are "good" and are "winning" then they can also be convinced that a nuclear conflict is "winnable."

Further, it matters not a damn what "people" may think as they are irrelvant to the decisions of the elites who have their GSA bunkers and get away ranches in NZ and Argentina.

Western "civilization" is a nice idea. It was reduced to a propganda civilization many years ago and is going to end in a Hiroshima Chernobyl instant.

I am not a taxi driver.
But you can quote me.

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 12:39 utc | 216

In response to Richard Steven Hack@69,

who wrote,

We do not know what happened and you can not tell what happened from some busted vehicles other than that there was some artillery.

Even that is up for debate. Although I'm sure the general area has seen some artillery action throughout the campaign, the published images show undamaged or lightly damaged vehicles right next to burnt out husks and wrecks. If the wrecks look the way they do due to artillery strikes, it's reasonable to assume that every vehicle within a certain radius of a strike should look more or less the same. I wouldn't call it conclusive, but it certainly seems off.

Keep in mind that all sides involved make a priority out of collecting abandoned vehicles, even badly damaged ones, to use them for spare parts in field repairs. The various systems being used, even obsolete ones, have a high degree of interchangeability of parts. That's what this reminds me of; aerial shots of a field repair station. Donor vehicles next to recipient vehicles, piles of vehicles that are to-be-determined, bunched up so close that they obviously didn't drive there of their own strength but were off-loaded by a carrier.

Posted by: Skiffer | May 14 2022 12:51 utc | 217

@Gerrard White | May 14 2022 12:37 utc | 209

It appears that a certain faction of the US ruling class is edging way from the nonsense talk and dipping a toe into diplomacy - the fact that it's the Secretary of Defense is significant, for the Pentagon retains some slight credibility when compared to all other talking heads, and one may guess that the Russians would not give the time of day to those
The Russians have long since declared the US "not agreement capable". What anyone in the US says does not matter. All that matters is what the US does, and that "language" is very hostile.

What is required? It is written in the documents handed to the US and NATO in December 2021.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2022 12:52 utc | 218

Posted by: K | May 13 2022 23:05 utc | 98


You worship Gonzalo Lira a guy in Ukraine who says he got taken by the Nazis and survived without a scratch to continue doing the exact same thing that got him "arrested"
I call total bullshit on his whole story

In a video made prior to his SBU detention Lira reported having close contacts at the inner circle of the US Federal Reserve.

These contacts likely result from Lira's Ivy League education which offers myriad benefits.

Given Z's need for USD handouts I suspect a quick telephone call with respect to the slow walking of those funds would have caused Z to enure the SBU released Lira unharmed.

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 13:02 utc | 219

@Norwegian 212

I do not want to be pedantic - but the Russians took the call, nonetheless

Sueing for peace, talking, negotiating, is already an act that may not be ignored - if only to encourage (entertain, learn from) what may be perceived as the first signs of a division in the US government, a glimmer

The US may not be agreement capable, but - by whatever means possible - they may be defeated

Not to be frivolous - the Russians may be certain to out talk and to out negotiate the US, as they are certain to fight them with every other means, now that they have determined to do so

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 13:12 utc | 220

If you find something you don't like, don't read it. Must suck reading something to the end (musta been inerestin) then finding out it's your favorite arch verboligest.....lol. Scroll people, scroll.

RSH....love the work you do, it is work....cheers, from a former poster at the old Iraqwar site...twenty years...wow, that long ago.....

Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 14 2022 13:13 utc | 221

Please comment

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3030753/readout-of-secretary-of-defense-lloyd-j-austin-iiis-call-with-russian-minister/

Surely this is significant

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 8:52 utc | 189

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What did he say?

Posted by: Paul | May 14 2022 9:00 utc | 190


I'm assuming it was something like "SURRENDER DOROTHY" but without the skywriting, and tortuously spread over an hour or so.

Waste of Shoigu's time in any case.

Posted by: malenkov | May 14 2022 13:20 utc | 222

Any author might be controlled opposition. What some here wish to call CIA. Martyanov could be. Bernhard could be. Many here continue to like Max Blumenthal who has markers all over him. RSH has markers all over him.

And so what? Readers who read like sponges will always be confused. Read critically. Always doubt every source. Whenever anyone here is critical of a source the main counter argument is “But I like him”. Which is meaningless.

The only more meaningless argument is “I suspect him”. Of course you do. Suspect everyone.

Gleaning information from untrustworthy sources is what a reader does. Being a fan is being stupid.

Posted by: oldhippie | May 14 2022 13:31 utc | 223

@oldhipper #217
Well said, bravo.
I will note, however, that there are curators of information who have consistently demonstrated quality.
b is one.
There are others who are consistent curators related to specific ideologies - that too is value of a type.
And then there are those who are consistent curators of garbage. This also has value; there is benefit in knowing immediately what is garbage by its emission from these curators.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 13:40 utc | 224

Re: Sweden and Finland
It appears Turkey isn't on board with Finland and Sweden joining NATO - so the unanimity custom vs. the reality of NATO is going to be tested.
It turns out Sweden has had an embassy in Kurdistan in 2012 - a big no-no as Turkey sees it.
Wikipedia source

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 13:42 utc | 225

hear that Poland wants another Versailles peace treaty regarding Russia
now its they who are the ones going full Nazi (the Russians already are, apparently)

Posted by: chris m | May 14 2022 13:47 utc | 226

A perfect storm is coming. The fighting in Ukraine might end up proving to be the least of it.
The combined effects of the US trade war against China, the ever growing lost of sanctions, the lingering supply chain problems exacerbated by the pandemic , and the rapid inflation of hydrocarbon prices have combined to make it very likely that 2023 will be remembered as a year of hunger for poor people-of whom there will be many more before this is over-everywhere.
In the middle east, where subsidised bread prices are as important as the prisons, police and the assassination of dissident voices in minimising 'disorder', there is a likelihood of widespread famine and, very likely, revolution of the sort that Gene Sharp and Victoria Nuland never dreamed of. The capitalist system is imploding.

" Between them, Ukraine and Russia produce about 15 per cent of the world’s wheat. The International Fund for Agricultural Development estimates that the area around the Black Sea is the source of 12 per cent of globally traded caloric intake. In addition, modern industrial farming is heavily reliant on hydrocarbons. As energy prices have risen so has the cost of fertiliser. The result has been a steep rise around the world in the price of all major staples except rice. Suddenly investment bank analysts are consulting soil fertility tables. Political commentators are paying attention to the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation’s food price index. It has been climbing since the summer of 2020, but April saw the third major jump in succession....

"...Russia and Ukraine are home to the majority of the world’s highly productive humus-rich chernozem farmland. But the salient feature of Russian and Ukrainian agriculture isn’t productivity so much as the ratio of production to population. Ukraine produces a quarter as much wheat as India, but has three per cent of India’s population. The result is that Ukraine and Russia supply many of the world’s poorest countries with a large portion of their imported food....

The military operation in "... Ukraine took place at a time when global grain prices were already at extremely high levels. The FAO argues that the war didn’t cause the crisis so much as reveal ‘the fragility of the dominant global food system’. In February the World Food Programme warned of the dangers of ‘an unparalleled global hunger crisis’. The current cycle dates to the summer of 2020. A number of causes have been suggested, from volatile weather to changes of diet in China and India. A more significant factor is the lasting impact of the Covid pandemic on transnational shipping and production: there are currently five hundred ships circling outside the port of Shanghai. The disruption has led to all manner of shortages: there has been a 70 per cent drop, for example, in global inventories of aluminium, copper, nickel and zinc. But it is the critical commodities – hydrocarbons and grains – that have put the extent of the problem on display.

"Yet for all the damage the pandemic has done, it can’t fully explain the remarkable rise in food prices that predated the war in Ukraine. An important part of the story has to do with the movements of poorly regulated commodities markets, dominated as they are by a handful of financial institutions and corporations. Investor speculation helped drive the price of food out of the reach of much of the world’s poor during the economic crisis of 2008..."
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v44/n09/tom-stevenson/not-war-alone

Posted by: bevin | May 14 2022 13:59 utc | 227

@Scorpion #160
I would not recommend assuming anything Lira says as having been original to him.
He has been caught many times repurposing other people's work as his own; if you listen to any of his podcasts or interviews - the literally NEVER gives credit to anyone else for anything.
Note that I am not saying he is lying, but I am saying he is plagiarizing. The purpose of giving credit to the originator is not just a thought leadership issue - it also provides the backtrail to understand the source and credibility of the idea.
His ongoing failure to do this has made him nothing more than a wannabe influencer in my view.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 14:00 utc | 228

@c1ue | May 14 2022 14:00 utc | 222

Note that I am not saying he is lying, but I am saying he is plagiarizing.

Please provide examples in support of this claim.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2022 14:16 utc | 229

@bevin #221
The author is way behind the curve.
China stopped exporting fertilizer last year. Natural gas prices in Europe spiked late last year. Natural gas is the primary feedstock for producing nitrogen fertilizers via the Haber-Bosch process.

As it turns out, Roundup is actually chemically very similar to ammonium nitrate and is produced via similar processes - and thus unsurprisingly has also been increasing in price even last year Glyphosate prices soar 300% or more - Agweb October 2021
Oil prices also were starting to soar last year.

I suggest reading Doomberg's Farmers on the Brink substack

The Doomberg article notes that every single major input for a farmer has exploded in price.

I also distinctly recall Tucker Carlson noting fertilizer prices in Iowa in January were 400% greater than January 2021.

And lastly: the farming input price increases aren't just some economic multiplier into the final output food price.

Fertilizer and pesticide, for example, is intended to be a production multiplier.

It is difficult to get a simple, straight answer because farming is a region, crop and time of year variable activity but the general idea is that the increased yield from fertilizer/pesticide use is worthwhile if the increased production more than offsets the fertilizer/pesticide use.

The problem now is fertilizer/pesticide costs are so enormous and unprecedented that the normal rules of thumb are out the window.

Equally, farmers have no idea what their crops are going to be sellable for many months down the road. Would a 200% increase in wheat price justify the same use of 400% higher fertilizer and pesticide? What about vs. using 1/4 the fertilizer and 1/3 the pesticide?

It is this enormous uncertainty which is as much a problem as anything else.

Lastly, I just saw Biden yakking about a $500 million subsidy to the USDA. The problem is American farmers spend $20B+ on fertilizer alone; $500 million isn't going to do squat, nor does it address the uncertainties of propane costs down the road (to dry wheat), diesel costs (to ship to market), tractor parts (if something breaks on the ole' tractor) or labor costs when it comes to harvest time - much less what the market price of wheat will be when harvest time comes.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 14:21 utc | 230

@Norwegian #223
A specific example is Lira talking about Russia's strategy to use forces around Kiev and Kharkiv to decoy/fix Ukrainian forces in place while Donbas, Mariupol, Kherson etc were reduced.

Scott Ritter was the first to say this, very early on. Lira starting saying this a day or two later - but never once noted Scott Ritter was the source

Now it is possible that this former youth counselor came up with this independently on his own, but then again, I think not.

All I am saying is: the next time you listen to Lira - pay specific attention to how many times he says anything giving credit to someone else. That number is going to be low to zero...

After the 2nd or 3rd - 30 minute to 1 hour talk where he mentioned no one, it became glaringly obvious to me that he is plagiarizing. He is pulling info off Telegram and other sources just like many others but is making zero mention that this is NOT firsthand information or analysis.

This is a big no-no. Martyanov, Ritter, McGregor, b, Mercouris and other credible people are assiduous in noting what is personal experience and analysis vs. what are ideas from others.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 14:31 utc | 231

Any author might be controlled opposition. What some here wish to call CIA. Martyanov could be. Bernhard could be. Many here continue to like Max Blumenthal who has markers all over him. RSH has markers all over him.

And so what? Readers who read like sponges will always be confused. Read critically. Always doubt every source. Whenever anyone here is critical of a source the main counter argument is “But I like him”. Which is meaningless.

The only more meaningless argument is “I suspect him”. Of course you do. Suspect everyone.

Gleaning information from untrustworthy sources is what a reader does. Being a fan is being stupid.

Posted by: oldhippie | May 14 2022 13:31 utc | 217


Damn, that's suitable for framing.

Posted by: malenkov | May 14 2022 14:39 utc | 232

His ongoing failure to do this has made him nothing more than a wannabe influencer in my view. [about Lira]

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 14:00 utc | 222

I stopped after first few broadcasts because something felt off - still does. Was listening to Durans regularly but now tapering off. They have no insight into what is driving Western elites though they do excellent job providing non MSM perspective and are decent folk. They regularly have Lira on. I did listen to the one with martyanov who did not agree with Lira on something (nbd).

In any case I greatly prefer text to video. I can understand Hudson on the page, for example, but mind wanders with video because have distracting habit of reading articles whilst listening hence absorb little of either!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 14:40 utc | 233

We hear Francis' "barking of NATO" comment offered, perhaps, an an apology to ameliorate Francis's inexplicable "Putin's altar boy" insult to Patriarch Kirill:

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, the Pope said “that barking of NATO at the door of Russia” has pushed Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine, which was not a part of the alliance.

“I have no way of telling whether his rage has been provoked, but I suspect it was maybe facilitated by the West’s attitude,” Pope Francis said.

https://eurasia.ro/2022/05/14/pope-francis-nato-was-barking-at-russias-door-provoking-moscow-to-invade/

Maybe something is lost in translation, but it sounds like Francis' putatively Christian analysis boils down to whether or not "his [Putin's] rage has been provoked." Pseudo-sympathetic psychological analysis of Putin's mood is the closest thing to an apology we'll hear from Francis, after the crudest, most boorish papal behavior in memory.

Nothing in what Francis says reverses the escalation he and his organization facilitate today. "America's oldest Catholic newspaper" has this to say, in response to Kirill's concerns for his flock:

The stance of those on the battlefield is different. A speech delivered last week by Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk, head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church (UGCC), shed further light on the situation.

Speaking at the plenary meeting of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity on May 5, Shevchuk stressed that the war waged by Russia was "ideological" and aimed at "eliminating the Ukrainian people." He pointed to instructions given to Russian soldiers about how to treat Ukrainians, saying that they amounted to a "genocide handbook."

http://www.thebostonpilot.com/article.php?ID=192362

Exhibit A in my case, illustrating how low this church has sunk. Hallelujah.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 14 2022 14:47 utc | 234


"It is this enormous uncertainty which is as much a problem as anything else."

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 14:21 utc | 224

Perhaps from ignorance and/or laziness, I look for simple, direct explanations. Right now it Seems glaringly obvious to me that the Western elites are deliberately crashing their national economies and perhaps also constitutions. Reset anyone?

So what's happening is sabotage. Media's job is to sufficiently obfuscate captive populations so they don't see their own leaders are causing what augur to be catastrophes by this time next year.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 14:49 utc | 235

This article by Garrick Alder comprehensively de-bunks the Mariupol Theatre video produced by the Azov fascists and promoted by bellingcat.
https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster83/lob83-bellingcat-ukrainian-hoax.pdf?cache=1

c1ue@224
Thanks for the Doomberg link. As you note this crisis has been brewing for a long time.

Posted by: bevin | May 14 2022 14:51 utc | 236

@c1ue | May 14 2022 14:31 utc | 225

Quite frankly I think this argument is nonsense. Arguments that everybody else is talking about the war in Ukraine from personal experience, except the one guy in Kharkov does not make a lot of sense. There is a huge amount of open discussion and of course everyone is influenced by others, and that is how it should be. The important thing is what is happening and what the analyses say. I will continue to Listen to Gonzalo Lira, evaluate what is said on its own basis, and ignore non-substantive arguments like this.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2022 14:54 utc | 237

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 14:49 utc | 229


Right now it Seems glaringly obvious to me that the Western elites are deliberately crashing their national economies and perhaps also constitutions. Reset anyone?


Tom Luongo latest supports the above assertion:

https://tomluongo.me/2022/05/12/real-reason-behind-eu-embargo-russia-oil/


But the bigger question is whether or not this conflict escalates to the point where winning is an irrelevant concept. When you see a bloc as powerful as the European Union willing to commit acts of domestic vandalism this big—and blaming the victim of their unbridled aggression—it tells you we are far past the point of rational settlement.

In a response to Robin's claim of "western victory" a day or two ago I asserted that the West is at best headed for a phyrrhic victory:

The West's Phyrrhic Victory
Posted by: robin | May 12 2022 18:14 utc | 303

The way I see it, the Empire has achieved complete Western adherence to its project and this is an inarguable victory.

It is a pyrrhic victory, the full effects of which have yet to be felt and are likely not to be felt until sometime in the fall of this year.

For the past several decades there has been ever increasing global prosperity largely due to increased globalization and the benefits of comparative advantage.

The imposed anti-Russian sanctions result in a bi-polar world. On one side of the divide financialization reigns supreme but this ultimately depends on trust and that trust evaporates with the unilateral seizure of a counter-party's financial assets.

On the other side of the divide there exist states which operate on a fundamentally different basis, which abjure rent seeking, which seek collaborative mutual gains and benefits, which place the welfare of their polities above the rapacious interests of their elites. See the works of Michael Hudson https://michael-hudson.com/ for a more complete discussion of these issues.

The empire of lies and financialization (fundamentally the same thing as financialization is predicated on placing a lien on the future, a future now unlikely to occur) has hollowed itself out and is wholly dependent on resources to which they no longer have access due to the intentional destruction of the prior trading regime which delivered the possibility of financialization and hollowing out in the first place.

Capitalism is entirely dependent on endless growth. If you divide the word in half and reject the "öther" then you have engaged in unprecedented violent degrowth resulting in a system shock which may not be survivable (We cannot be certain of the outcome. We must wait and observe. It is unlikely to be pretty.)

To truly understand the scale of the problem you must contemplate the fact the total value of the global derivatives market is entirely predicated on a continuation of things as they were (business as usual) and made no allowance for the sudden shrinkage of economic activity associated with unviable autarky. This actual size of this derivatives market is unknown but is estimated to be 10 times global GDP. (see:
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/052715/how-big-derivatives-market.asp )

Beyond this, there exist such future impacts as reduced energy supply and vastly increased costs, the inflationary shock to the global economy, a likely food crisis resulting in mass starvation, possible pandemic due to the declining health of the global population (getting through winter without heat and reduced caloric intake).

There is more to this analysis but you get the idea. If you find this difficult to accept please pause to reflect on the fact that from here on out the future outlook is fleas all the way down.


Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 15:00 utc | 238

>>>>: c1ue | May 14 2022 13:42 utc | 219

Re: Sweden and Finland It appears Turkey isn't on board with Finland and Sweden joining NATO - so the unanimity custom vs. the reality of NATO is going to be tested.

Pretty obvious.

Turkey is a member of NATO but not the EU.

Sweden and Finland are members of the EU but not NATO.

The prize - Turkey joins the EU when Finland and Sweden join NATO.

When it comes to the paperwork, I'm guessing Finland signs on to NATO, Turkey signs on to EU and finally Sweden signs onto NATO. That is the "rules-based international order" for you.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | May 14 2022 15:07 utc | 239

@Norwegian #231

I am pointing out that I consider Lira to be unreliable on anything he says because of this failure to give credit to sources.

I repeat: I have never said he is lying (I don't know), but he is clearly plagiarizing.

If someone is plagiarizing, there is no way to tell if his curation is good or bad - it all comes down to trust.

Mercouris, for example, is explicit every single time he notes something from someone else. He always notes the source is Russian or Ukrainian, gives a personal opinion on it which he clearly identifies as such and will call out specific individuals like Dreizin whom he believes have demonstrated exceptional skill or analysis.

Ritter, for example, never says what his sources are either. But what he is doing is publishing his analysis based on what raw information from external sources - not passing the source info off as his own. It is common trained intel practice to never reference sources so as to not reveal means/methods.

A person who does none of these things is unreliable precisely because you can't even know if he is consistently plagiarizing from the same source, or if he starts making shit up.

YMMV.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 15:08 utc | 240

@ Peter AU1 | May 14 2022 11:58 utc | 207

thanks peter... something happened, and it looks like russia lost some or a lot of men and equipment... however, petri left a link of another analysis of it that i thought was quite good... see my translation of the conclusion @ james | May 14 2022 0:57 utc | 133 - cheers...

@ Scorpion | May 14 2022 14:40 utc | 227

it seems we share a very similar viewpoint and are attracted to reading as opposed to viewing too...

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 15:11 utc | 241

Stonebird @ 208
I have however seen pictures taken earlier in the war of various WWII style arms being "played" with by Ukie troops. I doubt that those were used in earnest as the amount of ammunition kept in museums would be minimal.

Some of those pictures of old WWII weapons look like museum pieces taken out for a photo op. Never trust a guy with clean new looking AK 3 months into a war.

Posted by: circumspect | May 14 2022 15:12 utc | 242

Concerning taxi driver sources, I suppose some people think when someone says they "keep their ear to the ground" that they literally place their head in the dirt and listen for clues. To say "I heard it from a taxi driver" is just literary license to obscure a source (or multiple sources) while implying that the source might not be perfectly reliable. The author could have said he heard it from a hotel bellboy, or a newsstand proprietor, or a barber, but the taxi driver source is a better known trope that people should more readily recognize.

Personally, my secret sources tend to be classy escorts and trashy lounge lizards, but to each his own.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 14 2022 15:14 utc | 243

A Ukr attack into Russia w/ 15k troops begs the question of why and what effect it would have. For the Russians this would allow them to throw the regular Army, w/ conscripts, into that particular front. Perhaps that is what the Deep State seeks. For Russia, that is not necessarily a bad thing, they get to try out at least some conscripts and see how they fight. Properly backed up and supported by experienced, professional troops it could come out quite well for Russia.

In all wars, you generally go through the crucible phase were you let Darwinism take its course and kill off or at least expose the incompetent officers within your warfighting machine and replace them with proven warfighting experience.

Posted by: Simplicius | May 14 2022 15:16 utc | 244

taxi drivers are no different then anyone else... they come in all varieties... as a musician, i drove taxi for a few years.... it is like asking a random person.. you might get an insight or you might not.... it is irrelevant whether they are a taxi driver or not... same deal with william gruffs response, lol.... i can't believe how much ink was spilled on this!

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 15:17 utc | 245

How many members of the Davos crowd are adherents to Talmudic Zionism? It seems to me that the “ Great Reset” is a rehash of the same principles (we own everything, you own nothing) as can be found in that hideous anti human screed. The US nation and the EU will never recover unless Zionism is ripped out root and branch from society.

Posted by: Obamavirus | May 14 2022 15:18 utc | 246

Posted by: karlof1 | May 13 2022 21:30 utc | 61

Clearly, the Pope's no longer Catholic; he's now NATO and has proven to be what many feared when he was elevated: He'd become a mere pawn, which he now proves he has.

Sad state of affairs. I had thought the Pope might actually walk the talk... Wasn't Hitler a Catholic?

Why does world history feel like a continuance of a family lineage perpetuated from an alcoholic father?

Posted by: Seer | May 14 2022 15:26 utc | 247

Scorpion @ 229
Right now it Seems glaringly obvious to me that the Western elites are deliberately crashing their national economies and perhaps also constitutions. Reset anyone?

It was fanciful thought for me until I saw they were trying to pass the NOPEC bill basically banning OPEC. Certainly arrogance continues to abound in the good old U S of A. If it gets to Biden he will sign it and energy costs will skyrocket in the US.

Controlled demolition of the economy? Arrogance? Great Reset? Probably all three. They make the republicans look good meanwhile the Tea Party Rand Paul is holding up the package to the Ukraine for a special monitor to report where the money is going.

Where is the Left? Burn baby burn. The Right? Drill baby drill.

Posted by: circumspect | May 14 2022 15:28 utc | 248

@Scorpion #229
I never ascribe to malice what is most often a result of incompetence and arrogance.
What I noted above is gleaned from a lot of directed research as well as talking to people in Nebraska and Iowa on my last trip. As I am not a farmer, I don't pretend to understand in detail the vitally important minutiae of being successful in that business.
The research informed me of the general parameters, the in-person talks informed me of how these general parameters affect farmers - or at least the farmers I talked to in their own perceptions.
As I note above: we know in a general sense that fertilizers have gotten much more expensive. But we do not know how that actually affects a farmer.
A farmer could not use fertilizer. What is the actual impact of that?
A farmer could use less fertilizer. What is the actual impact of that?
A farmer could switch crops - for example, some people are saying soybean planting is up because soybeans need far far less fertilizer. What is the impact of that?
I can't tell without asking people who actually are the ones making the decisions based on their experience.

As for "Western elites" and "deliberately crashing their economies" - I am not a fan of grand conspiracy theories.

I can tell you that the US/EU sanctions were very poorly thought out; there is plenty of evidence that almost nobody outside of a small circle of politicians actually thought them through. If Russia and Putin made severely wrong assumptions when starting the SMO, it is certainly true the same holds for Biden and the EU Council's sanctions on Russia.

I can tell you that the authors of the original authors of W. Bush era economic sanctions on Iran: Condoleeza Rice and Stuart Levey - in their own words - note that sanctions on Iran took 9 years to have an effect (JCPOA), and there were a significant number of pushback questions in the Q & A. See the full video here: Russia and the Future of Sanctions - Hoover Institute
Hoover Institute is at the literal spear tip of neocon thought.

I can tell you that the ongoing daily new records in gasoline and diesel prices are visibly hurting the Democrat party and Biden - so much so that they are now talking about waging all out war on inflation, after literally 18 months of "no, there's no inflation" and "inflation is only in a few areas" and "inflation is transitory". A crashing market is the most reliable indicator of a political party change in the US - and the fact that Powell and the Fed, plus Biden et al are now starting to embrace this in an inflation year points to just how serious a problem inflation really is.

I can also tell you that there is no way in hell that pushing China, Russia, Iran and even possibly India together into a mutually friendly grouping can be construed as anything but an enormous strategic failure.

The NWO tunnel vision say this is because they want to destroy America in order to form the world government.

I think it is just arrogance and incompetence at work - and this type of thing happens everywhere.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 15:28 utc | 249

@Ghost Ship #233
That's an interesting theory, but not a strong one IMO.

In particular: Turkey has a severe foreign currency reserves problem. Unless the ECB is willing to flat out gift Turkey a truly ginormous stack of euros, Turkey joining the EU isn't going to help that.
Joining the EU and using the euro also means Erdogan will no longer be able to print money at will.

Maybe the situation is Turkey is so bad that Erdogan is compelled to do so, but it isn't clear to me at all. Joining the EU would also mean:

1) Turkey can no longer hold the EU financially hostage to block immigrants from the Middle East
2) Turkey's sweet sweet gas and fertilizer/food deals with Russia would be out of the question. Both are major supports for the Turkish economy right now.
3) Russia imports a lot from Turkey and also exports a lot of tourists to Turkey.
4) The big one: Turkey in the EU means Erdogan can no longer fan dance between Russia and the US/EU in order to get his dollar bill tips...

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 15:34 utc | 250

@circumspect #242
Have you actually read the NOPEC bill?
It is political grandstanding plus maybe laying the groundwork to sanction OPEC countries and steal their oligarchs' stuff in the US.
In particular, the bill is saying that the US can ignore sovereign immunity, international law etc and prosecute any entity - including outside the US - for breaking the Sherman anti-trust law.

This is stupidity and arrogance of the highest order.

If it passes and is signed into law, it will literally be a boot-to-the-face reinforcement of the already surging de-dollarization rush.

Note this article Saudi Arabia threatens to sell $750B in US Treasuries if 9/11 bill passed - New York Times in 2016

The OPEC countries officially hold $280B in US Treasuries in the Central Banks, but the rich peeps in charge in those countries certainly hold more.

Do I need to say the petrodollar standard dies, too? That's about 10% of the Eurodollar market.

We're into the very late stages of a double-down strategy - the type that either leads to riches, or much more often into bankruptcy...

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 15:49 utc | 251

in re: Austin call

FWIW, I wouldn't over-think this publicity. US, UK are incapable of long-view strategy. At the moment, the "allied" priority is RF permission --negotiators now including Int'l Red Cross FFS-- to evacuate the mystery guests in Avostal's dungeon. By POW swap. That's the subject of the call.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 14 2022 15:50 utc | 252

in re: Lira's Ivy League education which offers myriad benefits

bwahahahahahhahhahaah

IF he attended and actually graduated from an Ivy, he'd be an editor by now at NY Yella Cake or WaPoo, possibly RAND.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 14 2022 15:58 utc | 253

There are other good articles on Doomberg:
https://doomberg.substack.com/p/measure-twice-sizing-europes-natural?s=r


Thanks to the shale revolution, the US now produces approximately 96 bcf/d of natural gas. Of that amount, nearly 12 bcf/d is exported via newly constructed LNG terminals. Said another way, Europe’s Russian natural gas imports represent the equivalent of 125% of the entire current US LNG export capacity. This is a significant number.

The implication of this "significant number" is that it will create a global inflationary shock.

The rich EU countries, and their need to substitute for the refused RF supply, will bid up the NGL/LNG price to unbearable levels. Poor countries will be squeezed out. Their populations will freeze in the dark. Twigs and dried dung will return as important energy sources. If you think you are safe in a southern clime then contemplate months of summer with no A/C, no internet, and sporadic electrical supply. Drinking water may become a problem both because major reservoirs are being drained dry (Oroville, Lake Mead) and electricity and petrochemicals are required to purify and transport water.

If this is not apocalyptic enough please contemplate that what is called an "economy" is not an engineered system. It is composed of a series of indeterminate linkages the majority of which are predicated on "business as usual" i.e. today will be much the same as yesterday and there will be no significant change tomorrow.

Any degree of sudden unexpected change will render markets impotent apart from black markets and street fairs. The best descriptor of our collective future is FUBAR.

Why will this come to pass? Because a group of nitwits in Washington held the unsupportable belief they are part of an "indispensable country." Unless the lexicon has undergone a drastic revision in the last 24 hours being an "indispensable country" implies that all other countries are dispensable.

Colophon:
Numbers can be confusing, but numbers without proper context can be downright befuddling. I can testify to this fact as in a prior post I managed to confuse NGL and LNG. Despite this error that post made points which are reinforced by the above Doomberg analysis.

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 16:01 utc | 254

Even if NOpEC never becomes law, the effect of it being seriously discussed in Congress is enough to (quietly) accelerate De-Dollarization.

De-dollarization will be a steady slow process, hardly noticeable until near the end of reserve currency status. Figure 5-7 years

Posted by: Exile | May 14 2022 16:02 utc | 255

I appreciate everyone who contributes information on this site. Thank you.
FYI, if you link to a Twitter post even those of us not on Twitter can see the post, but if you link to a Telegram post those of us without a Telegram account see nothing but a log-in. So those who post the actual text are appreciated.
Personally, I could live without the sniping, both between posters and by posters sniping at bloggers and YouTubers.
Take it or leave it. An actual critique is worthwhile but ad hominin attacks get tiresome.
I found Doctorov's essay interesting, more for the party gossip than the taxi driver. It's interesting to know what ordinary people are thinking, but it's not worth arguing about the relative worth of their opinions, in my opinion.

Posted by: wagelaborer | May 14 2022 16:03 utc | 256

This is in response to Bevin @221, c1ue at 224 and Scorpion @229.
As a semi-retired organic farmer I'd like to weigh in to say I think the "perfect storm" soon to be raging over food production presents a great opportunity to transition to organic agriculture. Farming organically requires no herbicides, no pesticides, and no chemical fertilizers if done properly and patiently. Go ahead and start laughing and tell me how organic farming can never feed the world. Well, it did feed the world up until about 1950. And in Cuba today a whole country is practicing organic agriculture out of necessity under a brutal 60-year blockade. They aren't supplying all their food needs, but about half of it and improving. If only Biden would pump those millions of dollars into organic agriculture we could make more real progress.

To get a better idea of what I'm talking about here's a video of an interview with Wendell Berry and Wes Jackson at the Schumacher Center for New Economics in 2016. https://youtu.be/SxnEDVyCjyY

Posted by: Chas | May 14 2022 16:04 utc | 257

Re WWIII...

A while back I hypothesized that China's Covid lockdown wasn't really about Covid, that it was a stealth economic move in the global economic war. How to push back on the USA's drumbeat of war w/o firing bullets? Economics is always the first weapon used in war. I doubt that anyone here will argue that a crashed US economy is going to put a HUGE dent in the USA's militarism activities. Anyway, I was somewhat pleased(?) to see that I'm not the only one to think of this (though I'll claim having, somewhere, written about it before Larry did).

https://sonar21.com/ukraine-cuts-off-gas-to-europe-and-the-inflation-double-whammy/

Now for a newsflash (I am burying the lede)–China is using Covid as a convenient excuse to sabotage the U.S. economy and it is helping fuel inflation.

People that I've mentioned this to question why China would subject its own citizens to such horrors. It's a gamble. Buy some time hoping that the US will collapse before it attempts to wage all out military war against China. Easier to recover from lockdown trauma than to recover from death.

There is really no other sane excuse as to why China is locking down Shanghai. China isn't going to defy nature/physics and magically ward off COVID: especially when they're still allowing inbound flights/travel. Chinese are NOT stupid.

Interestingly the lockdown has nearly, time-wise, paralleled Russia's invasion of Ukraine. One could almost sense a tag-team operation in all of this. China is talking about easing the lockdown; perhaps we can expect a breakthrough in Ukraine?

Posted by: Seer | May 14 2022 16:07 utc | 258

I heard some rumour about a Russian missile taking out a hotel in Odessa full of Nato volunteers and trainers?

Any info on this?

Posted by: Manage without me | May 14 2022 16:10 utc | 259

@ Chas | May 14 2022 16:04 utc | 251

bang on.. i agree wholeheartedly... but for that to happen would mean diversity and the mono crop agri corp approach, which is the exact opposite) would have to give way to what we had before corporations controlled our food.. the transition would take some time, but we do need to get back to what you highlight..

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 16:11 utc | 260

@Chas, @251

I read that the problems with food in Sri Lanka had to do with a massive move to organic farming which caused a food shortage. Is this true?

Posted by: Manage without me | May 14 2022 16:12 utc | 261

@ Manage without me | May 14 2022 16:10 utc | 253

that was from about a week ago.. their were pictures on telegram.. i didn't hear anymore about it.. austins call could be about a lot of things..

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 16:13 utc | 262

@c1ue | May 14 2022 15:08 utc | 234

I am pointing out that I consider Lira to be unreliable on anything he says because of this failure to give credit to sources.

I repeat: I have never said he is lying (I don't know), but he is clearly plagiarizing.

In the category of unsubstantiated suspicions, I can contribute my own: To me it looks like a concerted attempt to discredit Gonzalo Lira, perhaps because some would like a different narrative that his or because of envy in his successful communication and analysis of the events in Ukraine and overall, for example 2022.05.01 James Vasquez Is A Liar and A Fake. I am saying this because it has been going on for some time in these threads and I find it not trustworthy since there are just loose, peripheral accusations that could be used against anyone.

Mercouris, for example, is explicit every single time he notes something from someone else. He always notes the source is Russian or Ukrainian, gives a personal opinion on it which he clearly identifies as such and will call out specific individuals like Dreizin whom he believes have demonstrated exceptional skill or analysis
I like Mercouris, I listen to him almost every day, not mainly because of his facts but because of his analyses. Obviously, he has zero personal experience from the war in Ukraine, he reports from his library in North London and relies 100% on external sources and adds his analysis in a fairly objective manner. It can be long winded, but all in all very informative. Lira comments on the events directly from Kharkov mixing personal experience with information available to us all, presenting his analyses in his own accessible and thought provoking style, also very informative and useful.

Ritter, for example, never says what his sources are either. But what he is doing is publishing his analysis based on what raw information from external sources - not passing the source info off as his own. It is common trained intel practice to never reference sources so as to not reveal means/methods.
So you are saying it is ok for Ritter to not reference any sources because of "intel practice". Right. I sometimes listen to Ritter and find some of it useful, but to me he seems very US biased.

A person who does none of these things is unreliable precisely because you can't even know if he is consistently plagiarizing from the same source, or if he starts making shit up.
I think the smearing of Lira is constructed from nothing.

Judgement should not be about a person, but his arguments. Most people are sometimes wrong, sometimes right.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2022 16:14 utc | 263

Speech by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov at the XXX Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy, Moscow, May 14, 2022

https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1813377/

The "collective West" has declared a total hybrid war on us.

We did everything to avoid a direct collision. But once the challenge is thrown, we accept it.

Posted by: Paco | May 14 2022 16:17 utc | 264

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 16:01 utc | 248

I appreciated your contributions re LNG.

I'd read that it takes at least around 13 hrs to unload ONE LNG tanker: 13 hrs is the low end. The amount of activity involved is almost at the level of launching a rocket into space! (lots of acclimation activities; ramping up and then ramping down etc.). I'm just not seeing how current demands could be met, let alone future demands (for our insane perpetual-growth-on-a-finite-planet meme).

A smack-down was always going to occur. HOW was the only question. It's almost impossible to separate planning/intent with/from opportunism. Nationalities, ideologies, history, everything, don't matter in that humans could never extract more from the earth than the earth has available. At what point do we face the reality that perpetual growth on a finite planet was a delusion we played on collective selves?

Posted by: Seer | May 14 2022 16:21 utc | 265

thanks paco... lavrov hits the nail on the head..

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 16:24 utc | 266

What was it the Chinese diplomat said, I think it was this, help us beat your friend (Russia) so that later we can beat you (China). When replying to Nato who asked China not give any help whatsoever to Russia.

"The G7 group of nations (the UK, Germany, Italy, Canada, the US, France and Japan) calls on China not to assist Russia and not to undermine sanctions against Moscow, according to G7 Foreign Ministers’ Communique passed on Saturday following a three-day meeting in the Wangels municipality in the north of Germany.

"We call on China not to assist Russia in its war of aggression against Ukraine, not to undermine sanctions imposed on Russia <…>, and to desist from engaging in information manipulation, disinformation and other means to legitimize Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine,""

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 14 2022 16:27 utc | 267

Waste of Shoigu's time in any case.

malenkov | May 14 2022 13:20 utc | 216
____

Indeed, SecDef Austin's call for an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine is mirthlessly laughable given the 8 years of the flagrant US-aided-abetted violations of Minsk Agreements in the Donbass. Press release edited for clarity:

"On May 13, Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III, [who hasn't bothered to communicate with] Sergey Shoigu since [ten days before Russia's SMO began]... urged an immediate [unilateral RF] ceasefire in Ukraine, [while having temerity to emphasize] the importance of maintaining lines of communication.".

Austin could have picked up the phone at anytime during the last two and a half months. From this pointless charade it's now abundantly clear that, unlike the White House Neocons and neo-Pravda regime media, the Pentagram, at least, knows that Ukraine is losing badly. He also knows Russia's terms for a ceasefire surrender.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | May 14 2022 16:27 utc | 268

@Chas #251
In my aforementioned trip through Nebraska and Iowa, I also asked farmers about organic farming.

Their response was: organic farming is like a kid hand raising a sheep for a 4F competition or a guy growing a beet to try and break a world's record. You can certainly get great individual results, but you cannot replicate that on a farm scale.

But that's their opinion.

This is a fantastic opportunity to walk the walk, as opposed to talk the talk.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 16:36 utc | 269

re: Turkey against Sweden & Finland in NATO
@ c1ue 219
the unanimity custom
It may be a custom, I don't know, but I can't find it in writing anywhere. Unanimous acceptance is akin to unanimous invitations in that regard.

Documents include:
--The North Atlantic Treaty (especially)
--The Atlantic Charter (US/UK)
plus
--US State Department Requirements

So based on what I see, this might be one of the 'rules based international order" thingies that the US dreams up and imposes on others as it sees fit.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 14 2022 16:39 utc | 270

@Norwegian #257

I didn't say it was ok for Ritter to pass off other's information as his own - because he doesn't. He never says anything specific which is from other sources - he uses those other sources to form his conclusions (which have been wrong at times, BTW).

Do you understand the difference between performing your own analysis on information as opposed to passing other people's information/work as your own?

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 16:40 utc | 271

sln2002 246
your comment makes sense - maybe they can take it from there

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 16:41 utc | 272

@ c1ue 263... this is due the ''go big or go home'' mantra... now we have corporations running the agriculture industry, as opposed to a number of small farms contributing to the food people get.. they are probably leveraged with the expensive technology and large land areas and working for the same corporations that are basically screwing them.. we've gone from a people who lived on the land and were all farmers of some sort or another, to a culture that moved into cities, dropped these ways of the past and are now happy to be screwed over by corporations... are those folks on farms in nebraska and iowa are on large tracks of land dependent on machinary, technology, large bank loans and etc. etc. ? i know i am generalizing here, but the idea of a mom and pop small farm has mostly gone the way of the dodo bird and it needs to come back as i see it.. i guess this is a conversation for an open thread.. i thank @ chas 251 for bringing it up.. an important conversation needs to be had..

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 16:43 utc | 273

I think the discussion about Azovstahl (forgot where) and the supposed repeat in the Odessa Catacombs was interesting, obviously from the perspective of the current war but also from a broader perspective.

It was curious that I had not heard about the The Odessa Catacombs before so I looked it up

In fact, these labyrinthine tunnels are so enormous, that they easily dwarf both the catacombs of Rome and those of Paris . To put things into perspective: the Roman tunnels are about 170 km (105.63 miles) long, and the Paris ones about 300 km (186.41 miles). The complete length of the Odessa catacombs comes up to around astonishing 2500 km (1553.43 miles)!

That's curious, especially considering the nearby huge Eski Kermen ancient cave settlement right next to Sevastopol, Crimea. Maybe the Catacombs of Odessa are modern, but given the huge size it begs the question how old they are. Something to study!

Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2022 16:46 utc | 274

Next problem that is of US making.
Cookie monster Nuland is now trying to annex North-East Syria via their proxies. (Kurds, SDF), There is Oil and Wheat there of course, so another steal is on the cards.

Can't miss the profit line.
***

The Syrians claim they shot down 26 of the 32 missiles that were fired at them last time, so in spite of their losses (6, including child and a Pantsir which ran out of ammunition), they claim a success.
****

An article by Matthew Ehret. I can't link to the original (in Russian and I think behind a paywall), so this is the nearest I can do,

All the major factors in a new Global paradigm.
I found the part on Biowarfare very interesting, which may tie up with the sending of poisoned false money to Donbass. (with free Tuberculosis for everyone?) Which may still be relevant in Avostal/MetaBio - Kolomoisky. Or even the recent massive "Covid" outbreak in North Korea. Pure speculation on my part, but it is evident that mass bioweapon attacks have been carried out in the past, and are still on the cards.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/race-break-russia-china-alliance-ukraine-asia-pacific

Another note is the attempt to encircle Russia by the North, which is another reason for Norway and Finland to become parts of the USNATO empire, with full rights to be occupied by US troops,.

Posted by: Stonebird | May 14 2022 16:46 utc | 275

Posted by: Seer | May 14 2022 16:21 utc | 259

A more critical issue than the time to load/unload a tanker is the period of years required to increase the size of the transport fleet, install the necessary LNG trains and, as you point out, the re-gasification plants.

The capital required is in the billions of dollars and none of it will be committed without a signed long term contract permitting recovery of capital costs plus profit.

If the EU intends to cease FF inputs by 2030 (see: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/13/climate/eu-border-carbon-tax.html )
I fail to see how they will attract the necessary capital. We are discussing WWIII here at MoA. You can bet your bippy that any potential investor in German LNG facilities (facilities already delayed by Green NIMBY suits) will take a long hard look at the potential downside. If energy is crucial to war-making (and it is) then do we want to spend our billions erecting a likely first strike target?

I suspect it is also likely, as mentioned up-thread, that KSA will seek to divest US Treasuries in response to pending US legislation. The smart market move would be to sell off your Treasury holdings today as you will be able to buy them all back tomorrow at a lesser price. Once this type of thinking takes hold you can expect de-dollarization to occur extremely rapidly.

As stated previously an analysis of future economic potential quickly leads to FUBAR.

Cheers!

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 16:47 utc | 276

turkey offers to help ukraine with evacuation of the azovstal steel plant.. no one but soldiers are left according to russia and ukraine...

what happened to the concept of surrender? is that not good enough for the azov battalion kids? i can't see russia going along with this...

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 17:08 utc | 277

I think it is just arrogance and incompetence at work [not malice]- and this type of thing happens everywhere.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 15:28 utc | 243
____

Disagree, strongly. Their venality and malice have been proven well beyond reasonable doubt, over the last 22 years alone. The people (or reptiles) running the Outlaw US Empire of Lies are VILE!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | May 14 2022 17:12 utc | 278

c1ue @ 245
Have you actually read the NOPEC bill?
NO

Sounds much worse than what I have read. I bet the boys now regret taking out Saddam. They could have left him in place to threaten the Saudis in the future. Now they have no one. The NECONS step in dog shit again.

Posted by: circumspect | May 14 2022 17:20 utc | 279

According to Erdogan this is the problem with Finland and Sweden when it comes to joining Nato.



https://www.ft.com/content/e7d3e505-279c-45d7-8585-1d1354926571


"The obstacle was their support for the Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK), which has waged a decades-long armed insurgency against the Turkish state, he said. It is classified as a terrorist organisation by Ankara, the US and the EU. Turkey’s president also named a far-left extremist group.

“Scandinavian countries are like some kind of guest house for terrorist organisations,” Erdoğan told reporters, referring to the Nordic countries. “They are even in parliament.”

He added: “At this point, it’s not possible for us to look positively at this.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 14 2022 17:22 utc | 280

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 16:41 utc | 266

RF may have incomplete information to identify eligible "allied" POWs by name; obversely, RF knows exactly which RF, DPR, LPR that UA detained, presumed living perhaps in Azovstal, perhaps renditioned. That puts the liars are in a bind. On the one hand, so the story goes, there are no high-value, GSEs in the dungeon; the exchange ratio publiclh purports to blindess and innocence. On the other, identification by name alone, in whole or inpart, memorializes "allied" value system (assets) and bares (confirms), RF construction of covert command ops and infrastructure --- which they may well prefer not to barter. Equal consideration of value (legal term) does not hold; after all, neither UA nor allies publicly admit to POWs --excepting that strange boy lone-wolf lately detained on charges of murder/WAR CRIME and a couple "pro-Russian" pols hoisted by the SBU. Now, dragging vintage Russian spies from high-security prisons to the forefront of exchange could pose unseemly questions.

So. These two adversaries have quite a bit of work left to reconcile facts, not to mention proofs.

Just saying: If I were either general, I wouldn't make a move until verifying proferred intel.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 14 2022 17:29 utc | 281

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 16:47 utc | 269

Someone needs to show numbers of how much infrastructure is required in order to facilitate the handling of LNG in the amounts necessary. Lots of talk about needing more ships and to increase port capacities but I don't believe that the port capacities are realistically taking into consideration the complexities, the amount of time, unloading takes. US is likely just selling the idea and is willing to sell however much it can, regardless of whether it actually meets Europeans' demands. Europeans need to calculate all of this and I don't think that they are. There's only so much port/dock space: perhaps a lot of everyday goods imports will drop off so much that that'll leave space for LNG facilities? (<- THAT explanation/source of "where" might be a bit disturbing to regular folks in which case they'll just wing things along.)

Posted by: Seer | May 14 2022 17:35 utc | 282

In the movie “The Hunger Games” from the Treaty of the Treason, it is stated that the games are designed as a “penance for the insurrection ” and as a way for the victors of the society to “ remember our past and to safeguard our future”. This sounds like the sneering “our democracy” quip constantly and deliberately emphasized by the members of the democrat party. This reset plan by Davos sounds like they have launched the first tranche in their own Hunger Games. The democrat party is insane and a threat to the nation.

Posted by: Obamavirus | May 14 2022 17:37 utc | 283

Obamavirus | May 14 2022 17:37 utc | 283
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Shamelessly plagiarizing Alex Mercouris: I agree completely, absolutely correct!

Posted by: Doug Hillman | May 14 2022 17:52 utc | 284

in re: Austin call

FWIW, I wouldn't over-think this publicity. US, UK are incapable of long-view strategy. At the moment, the "allied" priority is RF permission --negotiators now including Int'l Red Cross FFS-- to evacuate the mystery guests in Avostal's dungeon. By POW swap. That's the subject of the call.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 14 2022 15:50 utc | 246

Something’s going on and Azovstal is one plausible subject for this call but POW swap would have to be conducted on a like-for-like basis and there is simply no RF counterpart to the intriguing Azovstal cave-CHUDs that are the actual subject of everyone’s interest (I exclude the controversy-free UA marines).

Ukie spokespeople do mention some kind of swap now and again but, headless chickens, they’ve got nothing even remotely comparable.

NATO+, I suspect, has been escalating for a while now and, behind the scenes, threatening further escalation, with a give-us-our-people-or-else message.

1. Anything NATO+ threaten is almost certainly something that was already on their “long war” to-do list so it’s something they were going to do anyway (e.g. sink ships, hit targets in Russia, target high ranking officers, blame nazi actions on RF, false flag some other random atrocity porn, etc). If so, why give them anything when they’ll just do some other shit later anyway.

2. The way Russia is handling the bio lab info in the UN suggests that they have adopted a by-the-book strategy of evidence capture and disclosure. I strongly suspect that there is simply no deal to be had on Azovstal or any other evidence of what filthy NATO+ snuff-hustlers have been getting up to.

I think RF will simply capture or kill everyone left in Azovstal, the real wildcard is how far anyone else is prepared to go if it looks like the Azovites are finally cracking.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 14 2022 18:24 utc | 285

@ Rae | May 14 2022 2:47 utc | 156

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4IkzM217U

A fake election advertisment where they tell the truth. Incredibly accurate picture of the recent history and current situation in Australia. With humour.

I am finding that 'comedians' doing 'fake' news are about the only journalists left."

Rae, this ad is absolutely brilliant. As an American, I don't know your politicians, but virtually every single point made by the speakers could have been made about the neoliberal US, UK or, I think, any of the US vassal states. The immiseration of their respective populations is a handy feature of globalization. And the perky smiles, beautiful accents and sharp clothes of the presenters while telling you how they're ruining your lives is fantastic.

This video is very well done and worth a viewing.

Posted by: Boomhauer | May 14 2022 18:44 utc | 286

@sln202 281

Thanks for these explanations, which sound convincing enough - the stage of the war has been reached, with sufficient advantage to the Russians, that the US see benefit in negotiating, or to initiate an attempt to discuss/work out the conditions and terms under which it might be possible to negotiate, and this sooner rather than later

I've just noticed that b. has a post on this very subject, so doubtless there is a lot more to be said

Posted by: Gerrard White | May 14 2022 19:01 utc | 287


Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 15:28 utc | 243

@Scorpion #229
I never ascribe to malice what is most often a result of incompetence and arrogance.
The NWO tunnel vision say this is because they want to destroy America in order to form the world government.

I think it is just arrogance and incompetence at work - and this type of thing happens everywhere."

Fair pov and more often correct than not. But there are too many extremely poor decisions being made too frequently by too many in multiple nations and sectors with virtually none favorable or conflicting the current trajectory. So I assume some sort of coordinated design at work. Would love to be wrong.

One example among many: a candidate who did not campaign beat an incumbent with about 12 million more votes than first time; no presentation of evidence or therefore discovery permitted in any Court to challenge results. Then the Biden guy gets in even though his entire family is on the take from Ukies and Chinese and this is all by incompetence not by intent? Hmmmm

Agriculture: as with nearly all industries today post-war industrial products are nearly all most know. There are far more effective AG methods without modern fertilizers which farmers can make themselves at virtually no cost (essentially with microbial fermentation of plant and animal inputs). Yields are considerably higher moreover the soil is continuously enriched.

I am having friendly fight with local contractor who insists wood treatment using modern products must be used costing more than the lumber itself. Or I can use salted water or water with borax or oil varnishes with borax mixed in. They don't believe me and yet only 75 years ago none of the new things were available. So much lost knowledge and common sense.

In any case, looks like industrial inputs supply chain and key materials availability is going pear-shaped whether by accidental stupidity throughout the world all at once or well coordinated design. Either way result the same:looming economic world wide devastation.

Or are we being played as is so often the case?

Posted by: Scorpion | May 14 2022 19:26 utc | 288

SEER 282

A certain country consumes 1.2 billion C Meters of Natural gas yearly. All of it imported as LNG.

It has one receiving gasifying terminal and the exterior dimensions of the receiving cryogenic tank are 90 meters diameter and 100 meters high.

From there, the liquid methane goes to the gasification plant that will convert it to gas to be piped to facilities that have established gas pipelines. meanwhile, liquid gas is pumped into cryogenic tanker trucks for distribution around the country,

from a capital outlay standpoint, the end user using liquid natural gas has to face steep expenses. if we are to compare a pipeline user to a LNG user, for the same amount of BTUs per year, say for a power plant of 1MW/hr capacity, the liquid gas user will have to invest about 200,000.00 USD to cover the cost of a cryogenic tank and a re-gasification unit.

Then piped natural gas is only 1/8 the cost of LNG.

Then comes a question of receiving capacity of the sea port coupled to tanker available tonnage. The end user has to make a contract whereas he will, rain or chine, use a specified amount per year, 6 months before the start date of deliveries. There is no flexibility in those contracts as whatever is not used will still have to be paid. LNG tankers do not abound and charters are very difficult and lengthy to set up.

A 215000 cu meters LNG tanker will cost upwards of 250,000,000.00USD. Will take at least two years to build and commission. When finished, itinerary will determine rotation intervals and considering distances and such a single vessel will hardly do two trips a month. Total carrying capacity per year will be 5 million cubic meters of liquid gas. Will make the conversion later to compressed pipeline gas.

We are talking about a lot of money to supply Germany alone with very costly LNG. Europe is committing suicide going LNG.

If I am not mistaken, the NS2 was built at a cost of 10 billion dollars. It requires practically no maintenance compared to a ship.

Posted by: CarlD | May 14 2022 19:32 utc | 289

One example among many: a candidate who did not campaign beat an incumbent with about 12 million more votes than first time; no presentation of evidence or therefore discovery permitted in any Court to challenge results. Then the Biden guy gets in even though his entire family is on the take from Ukies and Chinese and this is all by incompetence not by intent? Hmmmm

uh Biden campaigned, and Trump was widely unpopular. the lawyers for Trump didn't present any solid evidence for fraud, contra to your claim that no discovery or evidence was permitted. the real fraud was in the democratic primaries, where Obama and the DNC torpedoed the Sanders campaign, and in the media's 4 year long smear of Trump with Russiagate. if you run two bowls of shit against each other, one bowl of shit wins. that happened in 2016 and 2020. and will likely happen in 2024.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 14 2022 19:33 utc | 290

@james #273
"go big or go home": incorrect.
The issue is costs: of which infrastructure and labor are major contributors.
The prize beet grower or 4H sheep displayer doesn't care about the enormous amount of human labor that goes into this effort, nor the production cost because they're not selling these products in competition with bulk beet growers or sheep herders.

Equally, the cost equation for an artisanal organic produce farmer selling to high end restaurants in big cities is completely different than people growing corn for pigs or wheat for bread.

The average farm size in Iowa is 360 acres. That's a little more than half a square mile.
If it is perfectly square, that is over 3700 feet per side. Or in other terms, that's over 10 football fields in length on each side or over 270 football fields in area.

To me, that looks like an awful lot of walking even just recreationally, much less plowing/seeding/hoeing/fertilizing/watering/harvesting.

According to this: The US averages 0.05 workers per hectare

Converted vs. the 360 acres - that's a little over 7 workers.

7 workers, 270+ football fields of area - I'm not seeing a whole lot of potential for tender loving care. And note farm workers are pretty damn low pay: average pay according to the BLS is $14.62 per hour - which is a bit over half of overall average hourly pay.

Now let's look at some other numbers: average yield per acre for wheat in the US is 37 bushels. The price of a bushel of wheat in 2019 was $6. So a hypothetical 360 acre wheat farm in Iowa yields 37*6*360 per wheat crop = $80,000

7 farm workers earning $14.62/hr and working for say, 4 months costs $53K. If there is FICA, unemployment etc like normal jobs, the actual out of pocket for the employer is more like $63K. The remaining $17K pays for tractor depreciation and maintenance, land rent, diesel, fertilizer, pesticides etc etc.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of slack here - do you?

How many workers per hectare are needed for "organic" farming? If it is even slightly more than the 7 above needed for the 270+ football fields, seems like the cost of the product would have to jump considerably.

Anyway, this is just an economics based thought experiment. At this first pass, I simply don't see how "organic" farming helps at all unless it dramatically reduces the labor needed for farming, as it seems labor is the biggest cost.

But again, doesn't matter what I think. Proof is in the pudding - or bushels of wheat anyway.

Posted by: c1ue | May 14 2022 19:39 utc | 291

c1ue @291

I think you would do well to listen to Wendell Berry and Wes Jackson explain about organic agriculture in the video I linked to @257. I think you are a victim of the establishment propaganda, without knowing it.

Posted by: Chas | May 14 2022 20:42 utc | 292

A follow on to CarlD | May 14 2022 19:32 utc | 289; Seer | May 14 2022 17:35 utc | 282; c1ue | May 14 2022 15:28 utc | 249

LNG tankers are generally built in one of three Korean yards. All three are operating at a loss due to significant increase in raw materials costs (steel up 63%). All three have full order books for the next 2.5 years and the build time for a v/l is two years. So even were a contract to be placed tomorrow delivery would not occur until October 2027. That would be for the first ship in the fleet. You will need the entire fleet to move the allocated LNG contracted under take or pay.

This timetable makes no allowance for ship and facility design, contract negotiations, confirming and contracting an available LNG supply, calculating the required fleet size to ensure annual delivery of the required amount of LNG, obtaining the necessary financing (need to have signed contracts or letters of intent in hand before this step). Add in another year for negotiations and legal / regulatory overhead. That brings us to October 2028 without any slippage or hiccups.

The German government seeks to go FF free by 2030. They are backed in this initiative by the EU. Look at the government's total contempt for investors. A consortium of Eastern and Western companies invested over $10 billion to complete the construction of NS2 now complete and unused. Even were it pulled for scrap there is no way to recover the sunk costs.

Why this imbroglio? Conspiracy? Incompetence? No to either one. This circumstance comes about because the politicians in Germany and the EU are completely divorced from reality. They are flat out insane. And you propose to convince others to invest in this goat rope? Good luck with that.

You would have better luck arranging a popular revolt and overthrow of the government. A Gretta Thunberg for the cold and hungry masses will have to be found. She will cost much less than the sunk costs on a second NS2 fiasco.

Posted by: Sushi | May 14 2022 21:01 utc | 293

Chas@257
I need no convincing. Petrochemical/industrial agriculture is all about substituting industrial inputs, sold by monopolies, for labour. I understand that. I also understand that the current abuse of the soil is bound to lead to massive famines. The Soviet Union would still be around if, instead of attempting to copy US agricultural practices, the perfectly serviceable collective agriculture of the village mirs had been used as democratic bases of organic agriculture without private landownership.
However these are not matters to be resolved during the next growing season which is when the famine will be born.
It is significant, I suspect, that rice is the one cereal not expected to be directly affected, wheat are sought.
As it happens I live in the middle of a typical 2000 acre cash crop and beef farm which is constantly seeking out means of using rotations and manure to cut chemical inputs. (The text is disappearing as I write so I will end here...)





























Posted by: bevin | May 14 2022 22:16 utc | 294

Very weird things happened to that post.
I was going to add that here organic farming of the land, intensive farming with much use of labour and no employment of either chemical fertilisers or herbicides is becoming widespread. Twenty years ago, in this area, only a few- often associated with a neo-fascist cult- practised organic agriculture, now it is trending towards dominance.

Posted by: bevin | May 14 2022 22:28 utc | 295

@several

its too late for anyone to read this but I posted the lira comment in response to RSH dissing Gilbert Doctorow. I was pointing out that he can't be promoting (Lira at least once every day) one talking head and caustically dismissing others. This is not the same as saying I don't appreciate many of his posts.

My point was not Lira per se but more that I can only scroll past RSH's condescending dismissal of everything but his own opinion so many time before I have to comment on it.

@Sean leprechaun it is not black and white where you can read a good post from RSH but ignore his righteous attitude, at least its not for me. Given that he posts at least 20 per day I do more than enough scrolling thank you very much! Personally there are many times I'd rather go find some of the information he posts myself than put up with his constant belittling of others here.

Anyone here should be able to offer a reasonable opinion of the trustability of a political commenter without being piled on to "prove it". We can prove almost nothing that is discussed here including from B. it's such a crap argument and all it does is intimidate posters into shutting up.

Old hippie yes you are right that we should never blindly trust information and that my comment to RSH was a reminder of exactly this POV.

I don't watch Lira for many reasons already stated and including the points Scorpion made about his failure to ever cite sources. There are a few here who assume that people who don't trust Lira have an "evil anti truth agenda". That is ridiculous.
Lira has a public persona and is a political commenter. Calling out his lack of credibility is not attacking him personally, it's simply questioning and reminding others to use discrimination.
I have never called anyone an idiot for listening to him and I don't believe people are idiots for doing so.

He is a button pusher, if you like the buttons it's all good, if you don't you raise a question and you risk being abused in exactly the same way we all get abused by people who believe the MSM. I'm not kidding!

We are in a kind of conversation here, it's not just individuals reading information and not having an effect on each other. I'm asking for people like RSH and some others who repeatedly use bullying and abusive language to put other posters down to please ease off.

Maybe the reason so much ink has gone on this topic is that the principle of it it is more fundamental than the content would indicate.

OK I've said my piece that probably no one will read oh well.

The topic on organic farming is far more interesting to me and I hope we can continue that in a Not Ukraine thread.

Posted by: K | May 14 2022 22:52 utc | 296

@ c1ue | May 14 2022 19:39 utc | 291

since i come from a similar understanding of agriculture based off wendall berrys writings, i too would encourage you to check out chas link @ 257.... i think it is a lot more nuanced and interesting then how you lay it out... let me simplify it in my own way...

1 choice

chemical fertilizers
1 or 2 crops only
heavy reliance on machinery
large farms
less employment
all the above supportive of the large agricultural corporations and those corporations supporting this approach...

a different choice

organic fertilizers off the animals
multi crops and also multiple livestock
less reliance on machinery
small farms
more employment
less at the mercy of big agra, and the corps connected to them, including especially the banks and their loans.


i personally think we need to embrace the later, not the former... but if people are not made aware of these choices, then it will be business as usual, and a continued degradation of the soil which is absolutely the most important ingredient in all of this... we are killing the ground with the first choice... we still have a chance to change.
multi crops

Posted by: james | May 14 2022 22:57 utc | 297

The AOL front page leads off today with this article .... https://www.aol.com/news/russia-media-propaganda-turns-spine-083013020.html

"Russian propaganda turns to talk of missile strikes on London, Paris"

Does anyone want to comment? Is this really happening in Russia? What are its implications?

From my perspective it is an ominous sign. You must understand - people who work with WMD treat them as if they were washing machines. I've had a clearance, worked on guidance systems for missiles that deliver WMD, and I can assure you that the persons who are today developing, building, and deploying weapons that will destroy civilization, are doing it just as if they were building washing machines. There is not one iota of reflection on the implications or consequences of what they are doing. The lack of awareness is almost unbelievable.

Posted by: Saggy | May 14 2022 23:02 utc | 298

Posted by: Chas | May 14 2022 16:04 utc | 251

on switching to organics--- totally agree with your points Chas. Thank you.
i'm a retired teacher but was turned on to food coops, organic gardening, etc, in the 70s and continue as I age out. My neighbor and good friend is a small scale farmer (co-owns 500 acres with the bank), has a cow-calf operation and hires out 200 acres to corn and beans. He and I talk about mob grazing his cows (grass fed)but he's scared to switch so he's stuck. Now he's really worried because roundup is very high and anhydrous ammonia fertilizer is too. If the market price is high enough in October he might make money. If not, he'll be underwater and will likely lose some of his mortgaged farmland.

Posted by: migueljose | May 14 2022 23:46 utc | 299

RSH...
Some here may remember back in 'the dark days of the pandemic' the previous incarnation of 'Richard Steven Hack' was haranguing us multiple times a day on mask wearing, social distancing, sanitizing etc. etc. and basically how anybody not embracing the 'covid narrative' was trying to murder him.
He provided us with a very detailed 'cleansing ritual' that he performed on returning to his place of residence. This involved the sanitizing of door knobs, produce packaging, grocery bags, clothing, the soles of shoes and more. There were detailed instructions on mask wearing - donning and doffing, rubber glove usage and how to growl at people that violated the social distancing rules.

And then he disappeared...

So whenever he calls someone an idiot.....

In light of the above, he seems to have re-invented himself (remember his trans humanism phase?) as a reasonably capable stenographer.

Posted by: ted001 | May 15 2022 0:34 utc | 300

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