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May 3, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-59
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …
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New: Posted by: Dean Oneil | May 3 2022 16:49 utc | 1 it seems russia is bombing the metal plant in mariupol again… Posted by: james | May 3 2022 17:04 utc | 2 Going along with the prior week’s discussion about the origins of WW2, revisionism, “who started it?” I see now we have the Catholic Pope admitting that NATO antagonized Russia with regards to its current mission in the Borderlands. Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 3 2022 17:05 utc | 3 Russia would bomb it as long as there is something/someones to bomb. Not muc hof a news actually Posted by: Arioch | May 3 2022 17:10 utc | 4 Posted by: Dean Oneil | May 3 2022 16:49 utc | 1 Posted by: Sarmat | May 3 2022 17:12 utc | 5 Unconfirmed rumour: a Canadian General who brew bio-weapons was captured. Posted by: Arioch | May 3 2022 17:43 utc | 7 https://t.me/intelslava/27738 Posted by: Norwegian | May 3 2022 18:04 utc | 8 It doesn’t really matter who you vote for. Take a look at England. Posted by: Passerby | May 3 2022 18:06 utc | 9 Ceasefire and evacuation corridors at Mariupol on hold as fighting resumes. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 3 2022 18:07 utc | 10 Passerby (8). Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 3 2022 18:14 utc | 11 Re: Azovstal- Well then I guess it’s biznuss time! I certainly hope all the civilians got out, because its going to get ugly. Who knows what they have brewing down there. Would be handy if they were able to capture some of the NATO brass. But by all means, man those firing positions and go all the way which is what it seems they intend to do. Posted by: Chevrus | May 3 2022 18:15 utc | 12 Captured/surrendered Ukrainian troops provide intel to Russian forces. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 3 2022 18:21 utc | 13 On the thread “Why Shouldn’t Russia Threaten US Carriers?” Republicofscotland posted the following comment at #130: I replied to it there, very late in the day, as I still try to read every posting here on this site. So, I’m reposting my response on this thread and hope it will be read here: Posted by: GreyRaven | May 3 2022 18:22 utc | 14 Bad, very bad, really very bad. Posted by: Roberto | May 3 2022 18:23 utc | 15 Sarmat @4– Good question from Imran Khan Posted by: Norwegian | May 3 2022 18:29 utc | 17 An attack on Transnistra foiled. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 3 2022 18:29 utc | 18 Arioch | May 3 2022 17:43 utc | 6 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 18:41 utc | 19 @Passerby 8 Posted by: Antiwar Dinosaur | May 3 2022 18:41 utc | 20 Good read: Posted by: Hannibal | May 3 2022 18:50 utc | 21 Roberto @14–
Why the long discussion? IMO, the bill is opposed by business and wider public. I did a search to see if the Duma ever passed a rewritten version of the bill and found nothing. So your attempt at smearing Putin as a secret Globalist failed yet again. But then trolls can’t disobey their orders and must continue their efforts. Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2022 18:27 utc | 15 Posted by: Sarmat | May 3 2022 19:06 utc | 23 Posted by: Norwegian | May 3 2022 18:29 utc | 16…. Posted by: Paul | May 3 2022 19:10 utc | 24 I have been following the course of the war via a dozen telegram channels. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | May 3 2022 19:18 utc | 25 MoA software is blocking comments with Kremlin website URLs, which makes my refutation of the concern troll @14 difficult. So, I’ll cut out the URL and the text it provides, and barflies will just need to just what I write. A view from China that supports my previous assertion that this Russian (with his half-swastika Z) is definitely not in the same league as myself. A mere inferior copycat.
And there is this bullshit: Posted by: GhostOfAdolf | May 3 2022 19:26 utc | 27 Sarmat @21– Hannibal | May 3 2022 18:50 utc | 20 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 19:31 utc | 29 French documentary “Ukraine, Masks of Revolution” 54 minutes, English subtitles, thanks to Xymphora Posted by: Paul | May 3 2022 19:38 utc | 30 Posted by: Passerby | May 3 2022 18:06 utc | 8 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 19:45 utc | 31 For your agenda’s: Posted by: bjd | May 3 2022 19:49 utc | 32 Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 3 2022 18:29 utc | 17 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 19:49 utc | 33 Dunno if this is legit, can others check for confirmation. Posted by: anon2020 | May 3 2022 20:10 utc | 34 Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2022 19:24 utc | 24 Posted by: Roberto | May 3 2022 20:14 utc | 35 @ karlof1 | May 3 2022 19:24 utc | 24 Posted by: james | May 3 2022 20:21 utc | 37 Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2022 19:24 utc | 24 Posted by: Circe | May 3 2022 20:26 utc | 39 anon2020 | May 3 2022 20:10 utc | 32 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 20:34 utc | 40 Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 19:45 utc | 29 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 20:41 utc | 41 What is this story about the Ukrainians pushing the Russians back 40 kilometers from Karkhov? Is it true or is it a propaganda scam? Posted by: Theophilus | May 3 2022 20:54 utc | 42 Many of you have likely seen the bravado statements yesterday by very high Ukrainian security and executive officials. (Below, copied from RT.) There have been others in the past, of course, about how “Moscow will burn.” Coupled with statements from the coterie surrounding our semi-senile emperor about how the war may last 10 years, and from a leader of our European vassals that only a military solution is possible, there can be no doubt that the Empire has now opted indubitably for war, turning general if necessary. For those of you old enough, it’s very reminiscent of the run-up to Viet Nam: JFK’s assassination (who’d announced a withdrawal), the Tonkin Gulf incident, ground forces, rolling thunder, etc., etc., leading to helicopters on the roof. For the rest of you, it’s something your grandfathers may have told you. I’m too old to see it through all the way again, as I did once before, but the handwriting is on the wall. Posted by: Seward | May 3 2022 20:56 utc | 43 @boo – as many said thanks a lot for this discussion 🙂 Posted by: Macpott | May 3 2022 21:25 utc | 44 The latest Andrei Maryanov “talking head” (as he refers to himself)… Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 21:34 utc | 45 Larry Johnson on “Deception In Operation Z”…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 21:37 utc | 46 From The Saker… Do note that Martyanov dismisses him as a “wannabe analyst” and doesn’t like his weak support for Donbass…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 21:39 utc | 47 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 18:41 utc | 18 Posted by: Paul | May 3 2022 21:42 utc | 48 A Twitter thread by Michael Kobs explaining how the Nazi salute paired with the “Slava Ukraini! Heroyam slava!” exclamation was adopted as OUN-B greeting: Posted by: S | May 3 2022 21:44 utc | 49 Martyanov’s latest talking head video where he talks about the possibility of the Canadian General being captured. I think at one point he mentioned Lavrov stating that there were Nato officers trapped in the steel works. Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 21:44 utc | 50 Chronicles Of The Conflict Telegram channel has published the crime reenactment video of Sergey Bratynskiy, an AFU serviceman who has confessed to raping a Mariupol woman in front of her husband, then killing him—all for the crime of being suspected of sympathizing with Russia:
Posted by: S | May 3 2022 21:45 utc | 51 From Pepe Escobar’s Telegram channel…
LOL You gotta love Pepe… Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 21:50 utc | 52
Posted by: S | May 3 2022 21:53 utc | 53 Also from Pepe’s Telegram channel… This is for all those having trouble dealing with their friends over Ukraine…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 21:54 utc | 54 An excellent article by Victor Kornilov in Defend Democracy Press via A socialist in Canada. Posted by: bevin | May 3 2022 21:55 utc | 55 Paul | May 3 2022 21:42 utc | 46 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 22:03 utc | 56 Also from Pepe’s channel…
What’s interesting to me is that Lavrov’s statement is self-contradictory. Ukraine can not both be “neutral” and “friendly” to Russia. And it most certainly can not be both with the current regime in power, which means his previous statement about “no regime change” is also contradictory. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:09 utc | 57 Peter AU1 @48 & 54 Posted by: Paul | May 3 2022 22:11 utc | 58 From the Russian MoFA Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:14 utc | 59 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 21:50 utc | 50 Posted by: Martina | May 3 2022 22:20 utc | 60 Just watched an interesting video on Telegram showing a Russian SU-24m coming at extremely low altitude and dropping bombs on a Ukrainian position in some forest, then firing off flares as it withdrew.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:23 utc | 61 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:09 utc | 55 Posted by: the pessimist | May 3 2022 22:29 utc | 62 US hired Hitler’s best such as Wernher von Braun: Posted by: susan mullen | May 3 2022 22:29 utc | 63 From Anna News Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:30 utc | 64 Interesting post on the Rybar Telegram channel from @econopocaypse… On the consequences of Russia cutting the US off from uranium supplies…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:51 utc | 65 This is extremely strange, you really can’t make this stuff up:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/03/russia-accuses-israel-backing-neo-nazis-kyiv-diplomatic-row-grows Posted by: MallardB | May 3 2022 22:58 utc | 66 US hired Hitler’s best such as Wernher von Braun: Posted by: GhostOfAdolf | May 3 2022 23:04 utc | 67 From ColonelCassad Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 23:18 utc | 68 This is the level of delusion on the Ukrainian side… From Donbass Insider Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 23:23 utc | 69 RSH @55– Latest Russian MoD briefing from the Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 23:33 utc | 71 Posted by: karlof1 | May 3 2022 23:31 utc | 67 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 23:37 utc | 72 >>>>: Norwegian | May 3 2022 18:04 utc | 7
Any idea how many missiles Russia produces each day? Are they maintaining stock levels or are they being slowly drawn down? Any idea how much each one (Kalibr or Iskander) costs Russia in roubles? Seen suggestions that they cost about $5million each from American sources but that most likely reflects US pricing of equivalents. I know this information is highly secret but just hoping. Posted by: Ghost Ship | May 3 2022 23:37 utc | 73 Declan Hayes’s article, “NATO’s Wars on Citizen Journalists”, where the Outlaw US Empire is most but not all of NATO in this regard, is quite good and provides a different POV regarding Lira. There are others Hayes deems more important than Lira, but since barflies seem more interested in him, here’s what Hayes wrote, which is spiced by many links:
If you haven’t read any of Hayes work yet, please do as he’s rather good, IMO, particularly “The Rise and Rise of the Sino-Russian Strategic Energy & Metals Market”. (machine translate)
Ukraine ambassador to Germany making himself very unpopular treating Germany with open contempt for not supporting Ukraine more. Zelensky treating any European country he thinks is not supporting Ukraine enough with open and public contempt. Two European leaders have now been added to Ukraine’s website hit list. Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 23:44 utc | 75 Just wanted to pass along this link. Alexander mercouris gave it high rating and i agree.. Posted by: James j | May 3 2022 23:51 utc | 76 Just wanted to pass along this link. Alexander mercouris gave it high rating and i agree.. Posted by: James j | May 3 2022 23:51 utc | 77 RSH @69– Any idea how many missiles Russia produces each day? Are they maintaining stock levels or are they being slowly drawn down? Posted by: GhostOfAdolf | May 3 2022 23:58 utc | 79 Ghost Ship @70– Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:09 utc | 55 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2022 0:06 utc | 81 GhostOfAdolf @76– What in particular about “Zombi Empires”? Many European nations are such entities, and their elites all seem to retain an exceptional air/attitude as shown by their condescending mien toward other nations. I’ll be back later to read your response. Posted by: GhostOfAdolf | May 4 2022 0:24 utc | 83 Richard Steven Hack and karlof1 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2022 0:35 utc | 84 @ Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 3 2022 23:44 utc | 72 Posted by: jared | May 4 2022 0:52 utc | 85 Apparently, the brave grandma has not been rescued yet: Posted by: Krollchem | May 4 2022 0:54 utc | 86 Posted by: Ghost Ship | May 3 2022 23:37 utc | 70 Posted by: James j | May 4 2022 0:57 utc | 87 @ Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2022 0:35 utc | 81 Posted by: jared | May 4 2022 0:58 utc | 88 …..i consider most of the data put out by the usa to be total bs …… they have been bombing 3 rd world countries for so long, thay don’t really know how to fight a real contender such as russ. My only fear is it will go nuclear / biological …. Other than that, the west will lose, is losing as we speak, for lacl of honest leaders. Posted by: James j | May 4 2022 1:01 utc | 89 …..i consider most of the data put out by the usa to be total bs …… they have been bombing 3 rd world countries for so long, thay don’t really know how to fight a real contender such as russ. My only fear is it will go nuclear / biological …. Other than that, the west will lose, is losing as we speak, for lacl of honest leaders. Posted by: James j | May 4 2022 1:01 utc | 90 @72 “Mothers/families will be talking to each other and word will get around. Usually the best recommendation is word of mouth.” Posted by: dh | May 4 2022 1:14 utc | 91 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 3 2022 22:23 utc | 58 Posted by: Sushi | May 4 2022 1:15 utc | 92 Getting civilians and mercenaries to fight is a sleek way of committing war crimes against enemies. There is no clear command structure and these elements are untrained on war crimes. Posted by: Jason | May 4 2022 1:18 utc | 93 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 4 2022 0:35 utc | 81 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2022 1:19 utc | 94 LOL! The patriotic Ukie grandmother follows Ukie army. Waiting to be liberated! Posted by: Jason | May 4 2022 1:21 utc | 95 Posted by: Sushi | May 4 2022 1:15 utc | 89 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2022 1:21 utc | 96 Posted by: James j | May 3 2022 23:51 utc | 74 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2022 1:24 utc | 97 Latest Scott Ritter at Energy Intel Web site…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2022 1:28 utc | 98 Let’s recap.
LOL! Posted by: sln2002 | May 4 2022 1:31 utc | 99 Interesting post on the ColonelCassad channel… Apparently slavery has returned to Ukraine…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 4 2022 1:34 utc | 100 |
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