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May 1, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-58

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Pepe’s latest, “Clash of Christianities: Why Europe cannot understand Russia” is another fine work from the master of deep historical chiaroscuro. He introduces the concept of Moscow as the “Third Rome” (Constantinople/Istanbul the “Second Rome”), through the Christian divide, concluding with Katherine’s founding of Odessa — and even some optimism for Operation Z.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 0:55 utc | 201

Look real to me
Posted by: Dadda | May 2 2022 0:47 utc | 196
Wow. I’m astonished anyone could be so visually oblivious as to not see the fakery which is so obvious to me, in these three frames. I used to do this kind of thing for a living, btw. I’ve known my way around Photoshop for decades.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 0:59 utc | 202

Antiwar Dinosaur #81

But NATO wants a long war and is making peace negotiations and a face saving Russian exit impossible at this time.

Consider this: Nato not only wants a long war, it wants a major victory for a totally fascist controlled army in the centre of europe. An army that has total control over the government of Ukraine. It has yearned for this since before the transformation of the USSR into the Russian Federation.
Nato has been breaking every undertaking since 1991 and is an expansive military alliance that is totally, willfully expanding armed bases right up to Russias borders. It has been doing that since it was first formed.
Nato and its european puppets remained silent while the US pentagon established a couple of dozen Chemical and Biological Warfare development laboratories throughout Ukraine – IN VIOLATION OF GLOBAL TREATIES prohibiting this development.
Europe has lost face and will never recover it imo.
Nato has lost face and ditto
Russia has maintained the dignity and supremacy of global abhorrence for CBW weapons development. Russia has actually torn off the smiling benign face of the criminal oppressors that would destroy us all. Address that issue for us dino and perhaps explain what those cbw labs were doing and don’t try “making hair shampoo or door handle lubricant” as the excuse.
Russia has clearly explained what it intends to do and if Nato continues to get in the way they had better byo their body bags.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 1:07 utc | 203

@ Dadda | May 2 2022 0:47 utc | 196
That’ll teach me for sounding confident. I had a closer look: You’re right about Pelosi’s “rictus grin” and I’m wrong. If I focus on her teeth, I can see it’s not quite the same three times over. What a rictus grin!
Do we know that the setting in which these pictures were taken is in Kiev? If so I’ll just have to eat crow. Yum-yum!

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 1:19 utc | 204

Posted by: Eric Newhill | May 1 2022 17:43 utc | 59
Do you labor with delusions that US federal officials are vulnerable to the same security risks as erstwhile residents of K**v, Warsaw, or L.A.? That Grandma Nancy rations her military escort vouchers? Why, a few weeks ago, she and her entourage were all set for a weekend excursion to Taiwan to close another arms deal, Wang cancelled her flight.
1. “I’m a capitalist” Pelosi is a mental midget. Her function for the past 40 years posing as a HISTORIC monument of women’s lib among the patriarchs has been “normalizing” conservatives’ legislative agenda, catering DNC fundraisers, and apportioning proceeds to the craven actors whom shareholders of that corporation select to represent them.
2. Pelosi secret visit to Ukraine highlights expanse — and limitations — of U.S. support
3. Listen to her gush admiration for her long-lost son: CSPAN | Ukrainian President Zelensky Addresses Congress.

Posted by: sln2002 | May 2 2022 1:20 utc | 205

Posted by: Dadda | May 2 2022 0:47 utc | 196
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 0:59 utc | 198
Have to agree. I just looked at the 3 of Pelosi and I can’t see anything unusual. I doubt anyone else who is not an expert in image faking would, either. They could well be fakes, but if so they’re beyond my ability – and most likely 99% of people’s ability – to detect.
In fact, on another viewing, I see a distinct difference between image one and images two and three. Her mouth position is not the same in all 3 pics. And look at the position of her teeth in images 2 and 3. They are not the same.
Sorry, Aleph, you’re reaching.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 1:21 utc | 206

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 1:19 utc | 200
I see you caught the teeth position thing just before I posted. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 1:23 utc | 207

The US is FUBAR. Nazi Pelosi, or Skeletors Bride, is a symptom of the corruption, grift and rot that is Pox Americana.

Posted by: Immaculute deception | May 2 2022 1:26 utc | 208

Re: bevin | May 1 2022 21:59 utc | 152
you write:
In other words Perimetr’s ‘speculation’ which is, in fact not a sudden inspiration but a central plank in the Hitler Rehabilitation/ anti Communist/ NATO collaborator eastern european/ russophobic platform, is based not on evidence, of which it flies in the face, but on a sinister attempt to re-found antidemocratic, anti working class, pro imperial politics to conform with the general programme of Full Spectrum Dominance
I usually like your posts, Bevin, but give me a break and please simply look at what I said and don’t put words in my mouth. What I have wondered about for years is why Stalin had positioned such large amounts of munitions and supplies so close to the Soviet border. It makes no sense to do that if you are intent on fighting a defensive war. It is that simple, ok?
I don’t understand why you imply that I am “Russophobic, anti working class, antidemocratic, pro imperial, etc etc. Give me a break.

Posted by: Perimetr | May 2 2022 1:32 utc | 209

Posted by: sln2002 | May 2 2022 1:20 utc | 201
No argument from me. Washington DC is populated by self-serving twisted scum. I’m an American and a patriot, but those people are neither “for”, “of” nor “by” me. They need to go. But they have a lock on power for the time being. IMO, once Americans wake up and realize where all of this headed, the scums’ time for honoring themselves will be over. In fact, a meaningful percent of Americans are already awake.

Posted by: Eric Newhill | May 2 2022 1:36 utc | 210

Opport Knocks #102
re Noam Chomsky comment on Trump

I am not a fan, but do not view Trump as a pariah either. With respect to the Ukraine conflict, it is worth noting that nothing much happened in Eastern Ukraine during his 4-year tenure. Not so coincidentally, that was the time that Nuland and the rest of the Kagan clan (Straussians as per Thierry Meyssan) were no longer in positions of influence.

I disagree. IMO Chomsky is plain wrong and I will grant him the defence of being aged and sometimes fuzzy on best judgement. Being in that aged category myself, I am aware of my occasional blunders and poor judgments. I know I have expressed those follies here ;}
Trump is a mendacious rsole imo.
Plenty happened in Ukraine while Trump was president and essentially the commander in chief of NATO.
I assume you might have missed it so I will set out a few things for us all to consider in the context of “nothing much happened in Eastern Ukraine during his 4-year tenure…
The massed army of Ukraine from 2014 had its entire upper echelon replaced by the nazi factions in Ukraine as did the key administrative government departments. This massed armed force under it slav hating fascist commanders continuously assaulted the Eastern Ukraine separatists, murdering tens of thousands and destroying their economy.
The leaders of this reformed army command threatened to murder Zelensky if he adhered to Minsk or entertained eastern separatist desire. Trump was OK with the army murdering presidents abroad … so what at home? Trump did nothing.
Trump could have commanded the NATO team to oppose all that. He did not.
Trump could have publicly insisted Zelensky to back off and do Minsk. He did not.
Trump could have sat with Putin and considered mutual assured security concepts. He did not.
Trump could have urged europe to consider a range of approaches to accommodate Russia’s persistent requests to back off NATO. He never once took that initiative.
Trump acted at all times as a muscle headed antagonist toward China and assumed superiority toward Russia. Trump absolutely failed in international diplomacy.
Trump has clearly proven that he is a creature of the failed past and incapable of accessing the intellectual flexibility and dialogue needed for a peaceful future.
Your thoughts please.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 1:44 utc | 211

Eric Newhill @ 59:
When the US State Secretary and Defense Secretary visited Kiev in late April, they apparently landed in Poland (Warsaw presumably), were driven by car to the Polish border with Ukraine, and then took the train to Kiev. The train journey took 11 hours. I presume Nancy Pelosi would have had to do the same.
Note that Ukrainian President Zelensky blurted out to the media that Blinken and Austin were paying him a visit. Would he not also have blurted out that Pelosi and a slew of Congress reps were also paying him a visit on April 30?
Alternatively an overnight train express trip from Warsaw to Kiev takes 14 hours. You can look this information up on Google. This probably would have suited Pelosi more than a car trip and then the train.
Civilian flights into and out of Ukraine are currently not allowed. Pelosi and company either had to fly to Poland and then take a long train trip or they would have had to use military aircraft and possibly risk being shot down.
No I cannot see Pelosi being able to dash in and out of Ukraine on April 30 in a “surprise visit”.

Posted by: Jen | May 2 2022 1:45 utc | 212

Fellow Barflies,
Has anybody heard about Gen. Valery Gerasimov being hurt while in Izium, Ukraine?
Supposedly a Ukrainian shell ended in the Russian HQ of the area while the Russian Chief of Staff was in attendance.
According to the source, two accompanying officers were killed while Gerasimov got hit by shrapnel in the fleshy area of the thigh. He was airlifted to Russia but boarded and left the Helo without help.
It seems that 9 Russian Generals have been already killed in Ukraine and this raises a red flag about some intelligence being fed to the appropriate points in Ukraine.
I cannot believe that a high ranking officer of an Army at war would go in the field with his dress uniform and cap. So means have been used to signal the presence of high ranking officers to the enemy.
Inside Job? Outside sources? Who knows?
I a thinking about these USIS officers in that Kiev building handing over all data collected using all the means at their disposal, Global Hawks, Poseidons, Reapers, Satellites, Radio eavesdropping etc.
I would gladly grace their venue with some Kinzhals or similar gifts. But also all surveillance aircrafts within reach of the AD of Russia. Never mind the resulting escalation.
A few western satellites should also be eliminated, whenever possible.
Intelligence sharing is participation and should be taxed.
So suggested by this here armchair general, CarlD

Posted by: CarlD | May 2 2022 1:46 utc | 213

What do we make of the harm to Russians from the Covid-19 vaccines, the intention to have digital ID, and Russia being in the IMF and the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation wishing to be under the thumb of WHO? Is it not feasible after Covid-19 pandemic was unleashed and the harm from vaccination arising that the next step to the Global Totalitarian State requires war in Europe to force nations into the NWO? Further, since Biden is hopelessly senile and totally corrupt, his bumbling war for the Ukraine strengthens China and Russia. China being beloved by the WEF and Russia until the tactical “split” with Schwab was making haste to fit in. – Russia will take a leading role in shaping the trajectory of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Today, leaders from the Russian Federation and the World Economic Forum announced the Centre for the Fourth Industrial Revolution Russia.
Part of the Forum’s global Network, the new Centre will bring together leading businesses, policy makers and members of civil society to co-design and pilot innovative approaches to technology governance.
Over the past five years, the World Economic Forum Centre for the Fourth Industrial Revolution Network has expanded to 15 countries. Project teams worked across public and private sectors to built new policies for drones and commercial aircraft to fly in the same airspace, government procurement of artificial intelligence and accelerated responsible blockchain deployment across the global supply chain.
The Centre for the Fourth Industrial Revolution Russia will be hosted by ANO Digital Economy in Moscow. It will work across the global network to maximize the benefits of technologies such as Artificial Intelligence and Internet of Things, while minimizing its risks.
Editors’ Note: On November 29, 2021 takes place the WHASS2: Special session of the World Health Assembly referred to in decision WHA74(16). It looks like the WHO is preparing to rule the world. Not only over the West, but through the 5th column, over Russia as well and the Russian liberals are ready to toss away Russia’s sovereignty on behalf of the clique at the head of WHO. The article below is from a Russian website dedicated to fight Sputnik V vaccine mandate, which, as it turns out, is just as deadly as its Western counterparts, Pfizer, Moderna, etc.
The site was originally set up to track the devastating effects on the vaccinated in Russia, the number of deaths and the injured; we invite anyone to visit their site in Russian: https://stopvaczism.ru/. However this article by itself is the most disturbing piece of news. It presents former Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev arguing in a recent press conference for no less that deposing Russia’s state sovereignty and placing it under direct external control of WHO (of course to the benefit of its Western controllers).
Here is the English translation of the article titled: Threat to National Security: Dmitry Medvedev Proposed to Surrender the Country Under the Direct Control of WHO In Russia
by RIA Katyusha Translated by Algora
Russian Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev, who became famous over the past year — albeit with some reservations (as many thought, not by chance): “universal vaccination is needed, otherwise it will be impossible to spread the disease,” again reminded about himself. On the eve of the November WHO Assembly, which is scheduled to sign a “pandemic agreement” on emergency powers delegated by all countries to the neo-Malthusian office of globalists, Medvedev published a program article in Rossiyskaya Gazeta entitled ” Six Lessons from One Pandemic. About the past, present and future of the fight against COVID-19″. In our estimation, the article was prepared by a whole team of authors (it is no secret that previously the functions of such a “prompter” for DAM [Dmitry Anatolevich Medvedev] were performed by Timakov’s ex-press secretary) and is very revealing in itself. It marks the open transition of the pro-government liberal “elite” of Russia under the wing of globalists, its complete separation from the Russian and other indigenous peoples, as well as the transfer of the country to direct external control. However, it is not too late to stop all these processes.
Let’s not hide the fact that much of this article, signed by Medvedev, struck a chord with us. We selected the most striking quotes, in our opinion, and decided to present them in the format of correspondence polemics (the emphases are ours). Let’s note right away that a thoughtful analysis of the text helps to find answers to two questions: Where are the architects of the Plandemia project dragging us off to, and what do they want from us?
“To prevent disasters of such magnitude as the global pandemic of a previously unknown virus, requires not only advanced technologies and vaccines, it requires no less the political will, diplomatic efforts and the ability to put above all else the main thing – concern for the lives, health and safety of millions of people.
There can be no separate immunity in a particular country. Only collective immunity on a global scale is possible, which must be achieved together…”– Medvedev takes the bull by the horns.
Global immunity, mutual actions of states, concern for the life and safety of millions, advanced technologies and vaccines… All these, of course, are the basic postulates of the transhumanist globalists. In general, a closer look at the text does not dispel the feeling that we are just looking at a slightly rewritten resolution of the G20 health ministers, adapted to the national flavor of Russia, or some kind of declaration on cooperation with the same WHO. This is not how thoughts are usually expressed in Russian.
“No one can give accurate forecasts right now. The situation in the global economy is affected by many non-economic factors: the rate of vaccination of the population, the threat of new, more dangerous strains of coronavirus,” Medvedev continues.
The main factor in stabilizing the world economy is the vaccination of the entire planet with experimental GM drugs, which is causing millions of side effects and a huge number of deaths around the world (officially – some hundreds of thousands; in practice – real statistics are not kept, the exact figure is not provided to us, and citizens are forced to resort to word of mouth, social networks and information from honest doctors who are trying to treat post-“vaccination” complications right now.
«…And especially strongly – political factors. This includes the political will for international cooperation in the fight against the coronavirus. However, not all states are ready to show it. And this is one of the most serious problems today.”
There is clearly something new in the high-level messages from the Russian authorities. DAM here happily demonstrates his complete submission to the globalist structures and their proposed model of world governance. That is, he not only fully shares the agenda of the WHO, the UN, the World Bank, the WEF, etc., but already begins to scold and urge those countries that have not yet taken the globalists under the visor to “correct actions”. An amazing desire to curry favor, the owners will appreciate.
“In the midst of the pandemic, calls for universal solidarity and mutual assistance in the fight against the disease, for the lifting of sanctions that hinder the work of health systems, and even for a cease-fire in “hot spots”, in fact, have failed. National egoism, the “bunker mentality” of the Cold War, paranoid phantom fears, attempts to protect their own narrow geopolitical interests often turned out to be much stronger than universal values,” Medvedev’s text says.
It turns out, from the point of view of Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Medvedev, Russia now no longer has “its own geopolitical interests”[!?] All the current confrontations involving Russia are “paranoid phantom fears” and our “national egoism”? And NATO is also our friend, and the EU countries that recently asked Biden to introduce the strategy of a preemptive strike against the enemy into the US nuclear doctrine? With such an approach to national security, one can go very far – to the complete removal of defense and the “alarm system” in the name of supporting “universal values”.
Now let’s compare this statement by Dmitry Medvedev with the thoughts of the founder of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Klaus Schwab, from the book “COVID-19: the Great Reset”:
“The flip side (of lockdown) is that it causes an increase in patriotic and national feelings, along with dark religious beliefs and ethnic preferences. And this toxic mix brings out the worst in us…”
Medvedev, of course, did not say anything about religious views, but in general, the message of DAM and Schwab is exactly the same: patriotism, nationalism, and the geopolitical interests of a single country have no place in the wonderful post-Soviet world. However, so far all these were flowers. Further in the article, the most delicious part begins, for which the whole kipish was started:
“The authority of the World Health Organization has been greatly shaken. Many countries initially refused to cooperate with WHO, and the United States effectively stopped funding the organization. Then the WHO cooperation somehow improved. However, problems remain to this day. The main one is that the organization does not have the levers to force States to implement a single unitary policy that is coordinated at all levels. National Governments have the right to defy WHO recommendations or issue their own decisions, sometimes contradicting those of the world.
In this regard, it is necessary to think about giving WHO the authority to make significant mobilization decisions in an emergency situation (for example, in a pandemic) in the interests of the entire world community. Probably, in order for WHO to receive such powers, it will be necessary for UN members to adopt an international convention on cooperation in this area,” Medvedev gives directives.
That’s just the end. The second in command at the Security Council of the Russian Federation proposes to officially transfer the levers of managing the national policy of one’s own country and all countries of the world into the hands of a non-governmental office, which was fully described by the head of the Kurchatov Institute, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Mikhail Kovalchuk:
“CIA Director Allen Dulles and his brother, US Secretary of State John Dulles, with the full financial support of billionaire John Rockefeller, created the World Health Organization. For what? Not to treat people, but to take full control of the world’s health and influence it – through vaccination, whatever… Rockefeller’s closest associate, Brock Chisholm, became the first president of WHO.
Here is his quote: “To come to a world government, it is necessary to banish from the minds of people their individuality, adherence to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas. Destroying the concepts of truth and falsehood, which are the basis of raising a child, replacing faith in the experience of elders with rational thinking — these are belated goals needed to change human behavior,” Kovalchuk said at the round table of the Army-2020 military-technical forum. We have not been able to find information about Medvedev’s presence at this forum in open sources. Apparently, there were no interests of the Security Council there, so Kovalchuk’s words flew past the ears of the former prime minister.

Posted by: Stegiel | May 2 2022 1:51 utc | 214

Perimetr@205
I should have made it plain: I did not read your post, I was replying to Nemesis and his ‘quotation’
from your post.
The characterisation to which you object was of the school which builds on revisionist accounts of the origins of the war to achieve a series of objects the last of which is supporting Ukraine and NATO.
I have no reason to believe that you are ” “Russophobic, anti working class, antidemocratic, pro imperial, etc etc. ” and did not intend to suggest that you were.
You say ” I have wondered about for years (is) why Stalin had positioned such large amounts of munitions and supplies so close to the Soviet border. It makes no sense to do that if you are intent on fighting a defensive war. It is that simple, ok?”
There appear to me to be many explanations for this. The one most consistent with Stalin’s refusal to face the reality of Nazi hostility being that he left these supplies undefended. He felt no need to hurry them back into Russia proper leave alone beyond the Urals.
And where exactly were these supplies? On the Soviet Border or on the borders of the lands occupied by the Soviet Union after September 1939?
I am not and do not pretend to be an expert in this area of military history but I do understand the political uses to which the sort of claims that those. such as Unz, cited by Nemesis make. It is to mitigate the spread of stories which transfer blame from Hitler to Stalin that I reply to posts such as that by Nemesis.

Posted by: bevin | May 2 2022 2:01 utc | 215

Posted by: Jonathan W | May 1 2022 21:01 utc | 131
No, this LNG steam roller began long before cheeto started dancing with Juncker.
Boxer-Kerry climate bill, 2009
U.S. Senators Introduce Expedited LNG for American Allies Act, 2012

For years, Russia has used its vast natural gas resources as political leverage against many of our NATO allies, especially those in eastern Europe. This practice was highlighted by Senator Lugar’s (R-IN) Foreign Relations Committee-Minority Staff Report entitled, “Energy and Security from the Caspian to Europe” (December 12, 2012).

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS: JOHN F. KERRY, Chair, BARBARA BOXER, DICK LUGAR, BOB MENENDEZ, BOB CORKER, BEN CARDIN, JAMES E. RISCH, BOB CASEY, MARCO RUBIO, JIM WEBB, JAMES M. INHOFE, JEANNE SHAHEEN,JIM DeMINT, CHRIS COONS, JOHNNY ISAKSON, DICK DURBIN, JOHN BARRASSO, TOM UDALL, MIKE LEE

Posted by: sln2002 | May 2 2022 2:02 utc | 216

Just heard on the news that Germany will be energy independent by summer. This I have to see.

Posted by: Immaculute deception | May 2 2022 2:02 utc | 217

bevin #134
Thank you, mighty fine words.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 2:07 utc | 218

@ K | May 1 2022 22:59 utc | 165
i liked and agree with your post to the earlier poster… and i really liked what you put into words here, which i have always viewed in the same way..
“This tendency of the west to make cult of personality a la hollywood and then to glamorize or demonize the personality, needs to be seen through and abandoned. ”

Posted by: james | May 2 2022 2:08 utc | 219

Finally, if Lloyd Austin married Samantha Powers, would he change his last name to Austin- Powers? Yeah baby! I’m done for the day.

Posted by: I’mmaculate deceptio | May 2 2022 2:08 utc | 220

Eva Bartlett Interviewed by the redacted youtube channel.
She is actually in the DPR explaining a view things.
I can only deeply admire such people that are on a quest for the truth and actually want to do something about it by informing as many people as they possibly can, taking great risks for their own personal safety and reputation in their own society. She has done the same thing in Syria.
Now I am on old man and kind of retired from doing dangerous things and kinda accept these kind of things as something I can not change but still I admire these kind of people very much, first for their ability to see through all the propaganda and lies of our western empire, which I do also but even more for their courage to fight against it, something that I do not have any more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMLPSXb7RU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMLPSXb7RU

Posted by: Jimmy | May 2 2022 2:11 utc | 221

fyi
it’s a good thing that there are cooler heads like Putin, Lavrov and Medvedvev et. al. in the kremlin
https://twitter.com/SNMilitary/status/1519950633532633088
MI NEWS @SNMilitary
“One ‘SARMAT’ means minus one Great Britain,” Moscow mouthpiece Vladimir Solovyov said on State TV. “Because they’ve gotten totally boorish.”
3:04 AM · Apr 29, 2022

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 2 2022 2:12 utc | 222

this building in kiev, appears to be the same building in a picture on cbc news today

Posted by: james | May 2 2022 2:19 utc | 223

above post regarding pelosi in kiev..

Posted by: james | May 2 2022 2:19 utc | 224

Jimmy #168

Well, this is just the opinion of somebody in Switserland about what he thinks he knows about the situation in Ukraine.

No its not. This is a misinformation piece of propaganda. This person is not just ‘somebody in switzerland’ read the bloody introduction and his bio. He is an agent of NATO – life long.

Switzerland, although a nominal neutral country, not a member of NATO and not a member of the EU is still under western , pro Atlantic (Empire) media dominance. The Swiss media makes use of the same, western, spook infiltrated, news agencies such associated press and reuters that feed their media with images and narratives.

So that makes Switzerland by deliberation complicit in the dissemination of slav hatred, nazi resurgence and development strategies of NATO.
Switzerland is not neutral now and was barely so in WWII. Stop propagating whitewash. Switzerland is supposed to be inhabited by homo sapiens not Neanderthals.
This Baud is a lying, deceiving, weasel wording ignoramus. He refuses to contemplate geopolitics while pretending it is his specialist profession!!
I quote his bio introduction at the report: https://www.thepostil.com/our-interview-with-jacques-baud/

Thank you for inviting me! As to my education, I have a master’s degree in Econometrics and postgraduate diplomas in International Relations and in International Security from the Graduate Institute for International relations in Geneva (Switzerland). I worked as strategic intelligence officer in the Swiss Department of Defense, and was in charge of the Warsaw Pact armed forces, including those deployed abroad (such as Afghanistan, Cuba, Angola, etc.) I attended intelligence training in the UK and in the US. Just after the end of the Cold War, I headed for a few years a unit in the Swiss Defense Research and Procurement Agency. During the Rwanda War, because of my military and intelligence background, I was sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo as security adviser to prevent ethnic cleansing in the Rwandan refugee camps.
During my time in the intelligence service, I was in touch with the Afghan resistance movement of Ahmed Shah Masood, and I wrote a small handbook to help Afghans in demining and neutralizing Soviet bomblets. In the mid-1990, the struggle against antipersonnel mines became a foreign policy priority of Switzerland. I proposed to create a center that would collect information about landmines and demining technologies for the UN. This led to the creation of the Geneva International Center for Humanitarian Demining in Geneva. I was later offered to head the Policy and Doctrine Unit of the UN Department of Peacekeeping Operations. After two years in New York, I went to Nairobi to perform a similar job for the African Union.

thepostil is a POS reference.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 2:29 utc | 225

Thanks for that clarification, bevin. I can accept the explanation that Stalin was resistant to repositioning the depots. I know that after the massive purge of the Soviet officer corps in the late 1930s, there probably were very few in the military who would want to argue with Stalin about anything.
I also resent the attempts to rewrite the history of WW2 . . . ironically, I have found over the years that my own US education completely left out the central role that the Soviets played in defeating the Nazis. I have my students watch some videos on the Eastern Front in WW2, and make the point that the Soviets lost 27 million killed compared to the US 404,000. These are basic facts that so few Americans understand, which makes it so much easier to brainwash them about the evil Russians, and never mind that the US is sending weapons to Ukrainians bearing the slightly-revised Wolfsangel symbol on their uniforms and banners.

Posted by: Perimetr | May 2 2022 2:30 utc | 226

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 1:44 utc | 207
I agree. People who think Trump did well in not starting a war with Russia don’t realize that he did so by omission of his duties as President, not because of commission of them. He was never a “President” except in title only.
After all, he had Soleimani assassinated and nearly started a war with Iran, which Israel was pushing hard for him to do. He only was restrained by the Pentagon and by Iran itself when Iran said if one missile ended up on an empty beach that they would retaliate with everything they had, that and his fear of being blamed for starting a new war, like most Presidents in recent memory. If he could have started one with Iran by successfully enticing Iran to do something to make them take the blame, he would have done so.
He had only two reasons for being President: 1) narcissism – everything has to be about him, and 2) he knew he would make billions once he left office due to the cache of doing business with a former President, as every other President has gotten rich – or richer – since leaving office.
Granting this clown any deference at all is absurd. He was the second worst President in US history – the first being Biden, who is likely to get us all nuked.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 2:35 utc | 227

I think Trump’s term in the Whitehouse was very intriguing on the issue of Russia/NATO/Ukraine and the internal US political crisis that has been brewing since Sept 1/21. With respect to Ukraine & Russia. I spent the last few years watching the Atlantic council & council on Foreign relations publicly available discussions on youtube and it’s very interesting what they say (and dont say) about Trump, the Obama and Biden administrations.
Obama is almost never mentioned at all, even in the 2014-2016 videos when you figure he would obviously be a major figure on Ukraine policy, instead the focus is on Biden as the point man for Ukraine (note: I was watching the livestream when Biden made his famous admission that he had withheld funds from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma). Nordstream2 is brought up as something that needs to be stopped but neither Merkel or Obama are blamed for it, they just amorphously blame Germany for agreeing to it (a more accurate statement would be Germany requesting it). During this period CFR/AC are demanding the Whitehouse confront Russia more aggressively (in the Diplomatic and economic sense).
Trump throughout 2016-2020 is constantly criticized for not being harsh enough on Russia, but notably he is NOT called a Russian agent (Russian stooge yes, also called a threat to NATO unity, but they think tanks avoid labeling him a Russian asset or otherwise having been comprised, I get the feeling that CFR & AC knew that lie was only for mass-consumption, not inner party-consumption). noteworthy, they heap mountains of praise on the “Trump Administration” and their guys in the Trump Whitehouse for pushing through the sale of lethal aid to Ukraine. The CFR/AC is openly call on the US to provide more weapons to Ukraine, more training for the Ukrainian army, create new Economic relations that exclude Russia entirely, they also at this point start claiming that the US can punish Russia and Russia will back down in the face of even open aggression against it (i.e. the US bombing of Wagner troops in Syria)
2021 is the year the CFR/AC lost their minds completely, John Herbst (director of the Eurasia department for the Atlantic council) in particular is almost demented in demanding Nordstream be destroyed at all costs and even calling for the sanctioning & criminal investigation of Gerhard Schroeder former German Chancellor (and alleged “Russia asset”, something they never called Trump). the CFR/AC is ramps up all of it’s recommendations and encourages the US to “spread the conflict into Russia’s soft underbelly” – by which I assume they mean Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia & Azerbaijan). John Herbst goes even further and defiantly states that the US can kill Russian soldiers directly and Russia will back down and not escalate and that there is “no need to provide a face-saving solution for Putin”.
The CFR/AC positions seem to be leading where the US is going as all of their positions eventually become policy within 2-3yrs, so I’m very concerned that the US might be about to jump off the deep-end by 2022/2023. The only thing that gives me a slight bit of positivity is that while watching the videos I can see a very noticeable decline in the quality of the presentations and clear goals. For example, David Fried is constantly brought in as the sanctions expert but his advise is always the same MOAR sanctions, as a part of undefined negotiation strategy to achieve US aims- it’s obvious to me at this point that he actually wants NO negotiations at all, the larger strategy he is always mentioning (but not stating) is in fact the complete collapse of the other state. John Herbst has seen the steepest decline, to the point he is little more than a raving madman at times, fantasying about 10000s of dead Russians and the imminent fall of the Putin regime as he spits into the mic. Mr. Herbst very, very obviously hates Russia and Putin with a passion but he doesn’t act like a person who is confident or winning, even though most of his recommendations eventually become official policy. So there must be something unsaid in the background that has really crawled into his skin and he cant depersonalize it, I have no idea what it is, but how he acts doesn’t inspire confidence

Posted by: Kadath | May 2 2022 2:44 utc | 228

The Ukraine War is just a battle in a much larger war, WWIII really, which started years ago, with the spasms of a dying empire. With nuclear weapons, wars really are “existential”. Do the empire seeks domination economically and through subversion such as color revolutions and coups and support for self-destructive fanatics — and proxy wars, such as the Ukraine. The Empire is not just one of “Lies”; it is one of “Delusions” for it cannot win, without adaptation but its goals are retrogressive. It is a static culture. Eurasia is much more dynamic. Great challenges, which are for them existential, drive adaptation and change, and sideline ideology. https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/why-rome-fell-and-the-us-will-too?s=w

Posted by: Julian Macfarlane | May 2 2022 2:51 utc | 229

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 2:29 utc | 221
Having just agreed with you, I must disagree with you on Baud. He criticizes the behavior of the US and NATO in this affair. Given the degree of “canceling” of anyone who dares speak out against the war, I hardly see justification for suggesting he is a propagandist for the war. I don’t even see evidence that he is a “limited hangout.”
From Baud’s article in Postil, reproduced edited by Boyd D. Cathay at Unz Review, I quote:
Is it possible to actually know what has been and is going on in Ukraine?
https://www.unz.com/article/is-it-possible-to-actually-know-what-has-been-and-is-going-on-in-ukraine/

In 2014, when I was at NATO, I was responsible for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, and we were trying to detect Russian arms deliveries to the rebels, to see if Moscow was involved. The information we received then came almost entirely from Polish intelligence services and did not “fit” with the information coming from the OSCE [Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe] — and despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia.
The rebels were armed thanks to the defection of Russian-speaking Ukrainian units that went over to the rebel side. As Ukrainian failures continued, tank, artillery and anti-aircraft battalions swelled the ranks of the autonomists. This is what pushed the Ukrainians to commit to the Minsk Agreements.

Does that sound like “propaganda for NATO”?
Or this?

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense then turned to NATO to help make its armed forces more “attractive.” Having already worked on similar projects within the framework of the United Nations, I was asked by NATO to participate in a program to restore the image of the Ukrainian armed forces. But this is a long-term process and the Ukrainians wanted to move quickly.
So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias…. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, according to Reuters. They were armed, financed and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada and France. There were more than 19 nationalities.
These militias had been operating in the Donbass since 2014, with Western support. Even if one can argue about the term “Nazi,” the fact remains that these militias are violent, convey a nauseating ideology and are virulently anti-Semitic…[and] are composed of fanatical and brutal individuals. The best known of these is the Azov Regiment, whose emblem is reminiscent of the 2nd SS Das Reich Panzer Division, which is revered in the Ukraine for liberating Kharkov from the Soviets in 1943, before carrying out the 1944 Oradour-sur-Glane massacre in France. [….]
The characterization of the Ukrainian paramilitaries as “Nazis” or “neo-Nazis” is considered Russian propaganda. But that’s not the view of the Times of Israel, or the West Point Academy’s Center for Counterterrorism. In 2014, Newsweek magazine seemed to associate them more with… the Islamic State. Take your pick!
So, the West supported and continued to arm militias that have been guilty of numerous crimes against civilian populations since 2014: rape, torture and massacres….
The integration of these paramilitary forces into the Ukrainian National Guard was not at all accompanied by a “denazification,” as some claim.

Or this?

In order to make the Russian intervention seem totally illegal in the eyes of the public, Western powers deliberately hid the fact that the war actually started on February 16. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as some Russian and European intelligence services were well aware.
In his speech of February 24, Vladimir Putin stated the two objectives of his operation: “demilitarize” and “denazify” the Ukraine. So, it was not a question of taking over Ukraine, nor even, presumably, of occupying it; and certainly not of destroying it.

Or this?

The EU is repeating the disastrous experience of the Third Reich in the final hours of the Battle of Berlin. War must be left to the military and when one side has lost, it must be admitted. And if there is to be resistance, it must be led and structured. But we are doing exactly the opposite—we are pushing citizens to go and fight, and at the same time, Facebook authorizes calls for the murder of Russian soldiers and leaders. So much for the values that inspire us.
Some intelligence services see this irresponsible decision as a way to use the Ukrainian population as cannon fodder to fight Vladimir Putin’s Russia…. It would have been better to engage in negotiations and thus obtain guarantees for the civilian population than to add fuel to the fire. It is easy to be combative with the blood of others.

Or this?

That said, while a few intelligence services had a very accurate and rational picture of the situation, others clearly had the same picture as that propagated by our media… The problem is that, from experience, I have found them to be extremely bad at the analytical level—doctrinaire, they lack the intellectual and political independence necessary to assess a situation with military “quality.”
Second, it seems that in some European countries, politicians have deliberately responded ideologically to the situation. That is why this crisis has been irrational from the beginning. It should be noted that all the documents that were presented to the public during this crisis were presented by politicians based on commercial sources.
Some Western politicians obviously wanted there to be a conflict. In the United States, the attack scenarios presented by Anthony Blinken to the UN Security Council were only the product of the imagination of a Tiger Team working for him—he did exactly as Donald Rumsfeld did in 2002, who “bypassed” the CIA and other intelligence services that were much less assertive about Iraqi chemical weapons.

Or this?

In other words, we can naturally deplore and condemn the Russian attack. But WE (that is: the United States, France and the European Union in the lead) have created the conditions for a conflict to break out. We show compassion for the Ukrainian people and the two million refugees. That is fine. But if we had had a modicum of compassion for the same number of refugees from the Ukrainian populations of Donbass massacred by their own government and who sought refuge in Russia for eight years, none of this would probably have happened.

And finally:

Western ministers who seek to collapse the Russian economy and make the Russian people suffer, or even call for the assassination of Putin, show (even if they have partially reversed the form of their words, but not the substance!) that our leaders are no better than those we hate—sanctioning Russian athletes in the Para-Olympic Games or Russian artists has nothing to do with fighting Putin. [….]
What makes the conflict in Ukraine more blameworthy than our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya? What sanctions have we adopted against those who deliberately lied to the international community in order to wage unjust, unjustified and murderous wars?….Have we adopted a single sanction against the countries, companies or politicians who are supplying weapons to the conflict in Yemen, considered to be the “worst humanitarian disaster in the world?”
To ask the question is to answer it… and the answer is not pretty.

I can’t see it. You’ll need to be much more specific about where you see “propaganda” in his report.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 2:58 utc | 230

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 2:29 utc | 221
Well, I tried to post a response to Uncle Tungsten on Baud, but of course the fucking filter dumped it, probably due to a link to Unz Review.
Let’s try that again…with the link obfuscated and cutting the length…
Boyd Cathay at Unz Review reproduced and edited Baud’s original post on Ukraine which appeared in Postil.
Is It Possible to Actually Know What Has Been and Is Going On in Ukraine?
Boyd D. Cathey • April 2, 2022
https://tinyurl.com/5n8vpye3
Here are quotes from Baud’s article? Where do you see “propaganda in this?

In 2014, when I was at NATO, I was responsible for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, and we were trying to detect Russian arms deliveries to the rebels, to see if Moscow was involved. The information we received then came almost entirely from Polish intelligence services and did not “fit” with the information coming from the OSCE [Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe]—and despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia.
The rebels were armed thanks to the defection of Russian-speaking Ukrainian units that went over to the rebel side. As Ukrainian failures continued, tank, artillery and anti-aircraft battalions swelled the ranks of the autonomists. This is what pushed the Ukrainians to commit to the Minsk Agreements.

Or this?

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense then turned to NATO to help make its armed forces more “attractive.” Having already worked on similar projects within the framework of the United Nations, I was asked by NATO to participate in a program to restore the image of the Ukrainian armed forces. But this is a long-term process and the Ukrainians wanted to move quickly.
So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias…. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, according to Reuters. They were armed, financed and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada and France. There were more than 19 nationalities.
These militias had been operating in the Donbass since 2014, with Western support. Even if one can argue about the term “Nazi,” the fact remains that these militias are violent, convey a nauseating ideology and are virulently anti-Semitic…[and] are composed of fanatical and brutal individuals. The best known of these is the Azov Regiment, whose emblem is reminiscent of the 2nd SS Das Reich Panzer Division, which is revered in the Ukraine for liberating Kharkov from the Soviets in 1943, before carrying out the 1944 Oradour-sur-Glane massacre in France. [….]
The characterization of the Ukrainian paramilitaries as “Nazis” or “neo-Nazis” is considered Russian propaganda. But that’s not the view of the Times of Israel, or the West Point Academy’s Center for Counterterrorism. In 2014, Newsweek magazine seemed to associate them more with… the Islamic State. Take your pick!
So, the West supported and continued to arm militias that have been guilty of numerous crimes against civilian populations since 2014: rape, torture and massacres….
The integration of these paramilitary forces into the Ukrainian National Guard was not at all accompanied by a “denazification,” as some claim.

Or this?

In order to make the Russian intervention seem totally illegal in the eyes of the public, Western powers deliberately hid the fact that the war actually started on February 16. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as some Russian and European intelligence services were well aware.
In his speech of February 24, Vladimir Putin stated the two objectives of his operation: “demilitarize” and “denazify” the Ukraine. So, it was not a question of taking over Ukraine, nor even, presumably, of occupying it; and certainly not of destroying it.

Or this?

The EU is repeating the disastrous experience of the Third Reich in the final hours of the Battle of Berlin. War must be left to the military and when one side has lost, it must be admitted. And if there is to be resistance, it must be led and structured. But we are doing exactly the opposite—we are pushing citizens to go and fight, and at the same time, Facebook authorizes calls for the murder of Russian soldiers and leaders. So much for the values that inspire us.
Some intelligence services see this irresponsible decision as a way to use the Ukrainian population as cannon fodder to fight Vladimir Putin’s Russia…. It would have been better to engage in negotiations and thus obtain guarantees for the civilian population than to add fuel to the fire. It is easy to be combative with the blood of others.

Or this?

The dramatic developments we are witnessing today have causes that we knew about but refused to see:
on the strategic level, the expansion of NATO (which we have not dealt with here);
on the political level, the Western refusal to implement the Minsk Agreements;
and operationally, the continuous and repeated attacks on the civilian population of the Donbass over the past years and the dramatic increase in late February 2022.
In other words, we can naturally deplore and condemn the Russian attack. But WE (that is: the United States, France and the European Union in the lead) have created the conditions for a conflict to break out. We show compassion for the Ukrainian people and the two million refugees. That is fine. But if we had had a modicum of compassion for the same number of refugees from the Ukrainian populations of Donbass massacred by their own government and who sought refuge in Russia for eight years, none of this would probably have happened.

Or this?

Western ministers who seek to collapse the Russian economy and make the Russian people suffer, or even call for the assassination of Putin, show (even if they have partially reversed the form of their words, but not the substance!) that our leaders are no better than those we hate—sanctioning Russian athletes in the Para-Olympic Games or Russian artists has nothing to do with fighting Putin. [….]
What makes the conflict in Ukraine more blameworthy than our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya? What sanctions have we adopted against those who deliberately lied to the international community in order to wage unjust, unjustified and murderous wars?….Have we adopted a single sanction against the countries, companies or politicians who are supplying weapons to the conflict in Yemen, considered to be the “worst humanitarian disaster in the world?”
To ask the question is to answer it… and the answer is not pretty.

I can’t see it. You’re going to have to be more specific about where in those quotes is “NATO propaganda”.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 3:10 utc | 231

@125 Obamavirus: Trump did the opposite of what you say, he kept no promises, did the opposite of what he promised. First, he was elected only because he promised every day without condition to build a wall starting on day 1. I listened very closely. If he’d once said he’d be asking congress for either money or permission to build, I’d never have listened to another word he said. Because 100% of congress is rabidly open borders. If Hillary on tv had asked if he intended to ask congress for money, he’d have said yes, and she would’ve won. Second, he said he’d roll back US foreign aggression, use of military, endless wars, normalize relations with Russia, and stop US being ‘Big Stupid Bully.’ He immediately did the opposite. By April 2017, he’d bombed Syria for no reason, with no proof, merely on complaint of terrorists US used as foot soldiers in US illegal war in Syria to remove Assad. He treated as gospel unvetted obviously fake pictures of children, Ivanka was upset. Trump bombed Syria again a year later for the same reason, US-backed jihadists complained. In April 2017 he also dropped on Afghan. the largest bomb the US has. In April 2017 Trump publicly turned over all military decisions, his Comdr in Chief duty, to the Pentagon, ‘his generals,’ effectively nullifying his own election. In 2018 and 2019, ‘his generals’ dropped record #s of bombs on Afghan. In August 2017, in a televised speech Trump said he changed his views on US foreign aggression, endless Mid East wars, now thinks they’re needed. During 2017 a united House and Senate removed all matters regarding Russia from his authority and transferred them to the Senate. Thus the world knew that Trump had no power whatsoever and was a global joke. This situation was discussed among attendees at a 2018 NATO meeting, so it was well known. He should’ve resigned, but the most important thing to him was to elevate Jared and Ivanka on the world stage. Apparently you’re unaware that Jared ran the White House, that his views were the opposite of 2016 Trump voters whom he despised, made all important decisions, ran Trump’s re-election campaign horribly, even invited Karl Rove and other GOP Estab. back into the fold. Jared also staffs and runs all Trump’s income producing post pres. family business, PACs, Am. First groups, etc., all staffed with open borders globalists. Jared in 2019 merged Trump fundraising with the RNC and Winred–Henry Barbour is thrilled. Trump hiring of Elliott Abrams was reason for his 2016 voters to call for his resignation. By that time, Trump was a worse neocon than the Bushes. Re: Ukraine, Trump sent two shipments of javelins to Ukr to kill Russians–which even Obama wouldn’t do. He ordered the first shipment in 2017 which was sent in 2018. He even bragged about this at a So. Carolina rally this year. He recently said he’s told Putin he’d bomb Moscow if he ever invaded Ukr. As to the attacks on Eastern Ukraine civilians, they most certainly took place while he was in office. They began in 2014 when his idol Soros was in charge of US Ukraine policy, insisted civilians there should be shot every day, wanted their children to grow up in basements.

Posted by: susan mullen | May 2 2022 3:14 utc | 232

WWIII really, which started years ago, with the spasms of a dying empire
Posted by: Julian Macfarlane | May 2 2022 2:51 utc | 225
Absolutely. Some days, I idly wonder, How many “proxies” on how many continents simultaneously funded by how many regimes financed and armed by Allied multinational corporations qualifies as a “world war”. Then I snap out of it. Rule of World War No. 1 is, Never rank World War Over There.

Posted by: sln | May 2 2022 3:24 utc | 233

James @ 219, 220:
I have found more photos of the House of Chimaeras and Bankova Street immediately in front of it on Google. Look up “House of Chimaeras”, “Gorodetsky House” and “Bankova Street” on Google and then click on “Images” to get the photos.
The Office of the President of Ukraine is just opposite the House of Chimaeras so you can look that up as well and peruse the images for that building.
The locations where Pelosi and other Congress reps meet Zelensky look genuine enough – even the landscaping and the tree look genuine – but it is possible that the whole Bankova Street setting and the interiors of the House of Chimaeras are a film set in a different town or city.

Posted by: Jen | May 2 2022 3:27 utc | 234

@ uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 2:29 utc | 221
hey uncle t.. i read the previous article from baud at the postil link…. something doesn’t ring true with what you are saying… i agree with @ Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 3:10 utc | 226 and thanks richard for going into the details…. i like your energy and posts uncle tungsten, but that post @ 221 doesn’t add up for me either.. cheers..
@ Jen | May 2 2022 3:27 utc | 229
thanks jen! it is possible, but it seems unlikely to go to all that trouble… i am receptive, but at this point it seems like it is real… i remain open minded about this and will accept i am wrong or right either way! thanks!

Posted by: james | May 2 2022 3:37 utc | 235

Kadath@224 – Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for that insight.

Posted by: PavewayIV | May 2 2022 3:41 utc | 236

Richard Steven Hack #223

Granting this clown any deference at all is absurd. He was the second worst President in US history – the first being Biden, who is likely to get us all nuked.

The ‘system administrators’ of the USA are likely to have a plan in mind that goes like this:
Maintain all NATO advance lines and tolerate loss of Ukraine at great cost to Russia (as they imagine),
build the slav hate to high pitch over the next year or so –
allow Trump to be the next GOP runner but trade some of Ghislaine Maxwell’s stored images or testimony on Trump for a free flight to Tel Aviv as part of a plea deal as they must protect USA from compromat ending up in Russian hands. It worked with sleazy hotel room caper and it can work again (before or after the election) –
Rely on the neocon control of the justice system to ‘manage’ the evidence and accusations to go public in say January a week before the inauguration (Note like Comey and anyhow Wray is OK too 😉 –
Wind up more Nato pressure on Russia by refusing to negotiate the 2021 treaty proposal plus strategic missile placements at the Finland-Poland-Romania/Ukraine borders.
Get the GOP to be the nukers thus cleansing the reputation of the neocons.
Hell knows what plan B would look like.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 3:45 utc | 237

Jen #229

The locations where Pelosi and other Congress reps meet Zelensky look genuine enough – even the landscaping and the tree look genuine – but it is possible that the whole Bankova Street setting and the interiors of the House of Chimaeras are a film set in a different town or city.

Some thoughts – is there any video? I can’t imagine such a meeting and no video. That might tell us something.
Surely a live press exchange?
The images could have been taken then and there with immediate doctoring within an hour. Elensky shakes hand of a stand in clad in blue outfit etc etc.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 3:57 utc | 238

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 3:45 utc | 232
“The ‘system administrators’ of the USA are likely to have a plan in mind that goes like this:”
Yeah, but we have to get to 2024 first… Biden may make that problematic.
“Maintain all NATO advance lines and tolerate loss of Ukraine at great cost to Russia (as they imagine)”
Certainly possible. But it’s not looking like it, given the Polish move (assuming it actually happens.) The neocons want a war between NATO and Russia NOW.
“build the slav hate to high pitch over the next year or so -”
That’s a given. Except it won’t be just for a year, it will be permanent.
“allow Trump to be the next GOP runner but trade some of Ghislaine Maxwell’s stored images or testimony on Trump for a free flight to Tel Aviv as part of a plea deal as they must protect USA from compromat ending up in Russian hands.”
I’m sure the neocons already have something on Trump. Ghislaine can just end up dead – who’s going to do anything about it? Besides, allegedly Epstein was in bed with the CIA (pun intended) so they already have all of Ghislaine’s stuff. Russia probably knows all this stuff as well already – or Russia doesn’t care which is more likely.
“Rely on the neocon control of the justice system to ‘manage’ the evidence and accusations to go public in say January a week before the inauguration”
Probably should go earlier or Trump will manage to get inaugurated before anything can be done – and after that, good luck getting rid of him, impeachment or not.
“Wind up more Nato pressure on Russia by refusing to negotiate the 2021 treaty proposal plus strategic missile placements at the Finland-Poland-Romania/Ukraine borders.”
That’s a given.
“Get the GOP to be the nukers thus cleansing the reputation of the neocons.”
I don’t think it matters which party does the nuking. The neocons are clearly in bed with the CIA and the rest of the Deep State. They are controlling things, not the politicos.
Anything is possible. The guarantees are the givens I mentioned.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 3:59 utc | 239

Watched the Twitter video of Pelosi. Notice how they have a long march down a stretch of street, then two cuts to the front of the building, then inside – which could be any office anywhere. No clue where any of that is. But clearly the long march was done to prove they are in Kiev. Whether it does or not I have no clue – and don’t particularly care, either. But that they have to make the effort to prove they are in Kiev is suspicious in itself.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:05 utc | 240

Biden has been trying to shake hands with thin air lately. He quite likely just signs his name to whatever is put in front of him. I often wonder if he was put in place to take the blame for whatever these clowns are planning.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 2 2022 4:06 utc | 241

@ uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 3:57 utc | 234
there is a video in the twitter link @ Laurence | May 2 2022 3:47 utc | 233 shared..
Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:05 utc | 236 quote –
“But that they have to make the effort to prove they are in Kiev is suspicious in itself.” i agree richard.. thanks..

Posted by: james | May 2 2022 4:08 utc | 242

This is clearly a Kiev laundromat
I think this came from RWA, had to share.

Posted by: Grieved | May 2 2022 4:08 utc | 243

Freedom from the nazi captors of azovstal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daWP9nR5qWg
short video, english subtitles.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 4:10 utc | 244

The actual video of the Pelosi visit makes it look much more realistic. Since I do not have access to her schedule I will leave that to others. At this point I wish I never brought it up.

Posted by: circumspect | May 2 2022 4:10 utc | 245

Posted by: circumspect | May 2 2022 4:10 utc | 241
“At this point I wish I never brought it up.”
I agree. LOL It’s just another distraction. Although the constant presence of these Congressional clowns and other US officials does emphasize the probability of escalation. In that regard, I recommend again that everyone watch Mercouris’ video from today. He lays out how it could go.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:14 utc | 246

Posted by: Grieved | May 2 2022 4:08 utc | 239
Awesome!

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:15 utc | 247

@ circumspect | May 2 2022 4:10 utc | 241
lol… it has been a running curiousity on the part of some of us here as to just where zelensky is because those 7 hour train rides into kiev from poland didn’t make sense to some of us here.. as richard says – it is just another distraction…
and, that is now the 3rd time i have seen the zelensky-pelosi laundromat pic!

Posted by: james | May 2 2022 4:21 utc | 248

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 2 2022 4:06 utc | 237
“I often wonder if he was put in place to take the blame for whatever these clowns are planning.”
I’m pretty sure he was put in place to at least make sure the neocons plan would be executed, along with all his administration. It’s a perfect storm for WWIII.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:24 utc | 249

Time magazine has a new cover story on Adolph, whoops, Zelensky. per Caitlin Johnstone.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 2 2022 4:33 utc | 250

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 2 2022 4:06 utc | 237
maybe he was shaking hands with the ghost of Kiev. like James Stewart reacting to Harvey the 6 foot rabbit.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 2 2022 4:34 utc | 251

Putin pulled a fast one I think. US and et al send in Guterres to try ad get their vip’s out of Mariupol. Both UN and red cross reps rock up and Azov had to release a number of hostages. They will go through screening but the majority seemed genuine.
Two brain dead female meeting actor photo shoots took place in supposedly Kiev to distract the minds of the gold fish while that operation was underway.
According to one of the hostages, there is a general in the rat hole. A lot of sources now – prisoners hostages ect saying there are a lot of nato types down there. Makes wonder if that was set up as a headquarters for the – what was – coming attack on Donbas and by extention Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 2 2022 4:43 utc | 252

Bevin, I fail to see how Unz’s “revisionism” through the work of not only Suvorov but also David Irving and others who have been silenced by Jewish interests via lawsuits, hurts Putin currently against the west.
In fact, it undermines the credibility of the allied post-war narrative, which, if you haven’t been paying any fucking attention to, they are trying to reconstitute the prevailing postwar narrative by painting Putin and his mission as Soviet Revanchism.
Which it of course is not. It has nothing to do with Sovietism or any of its historical policies.
The fact that a deluded group of Ukrainian globalist-henchmen are wearing Nazi insignias is an inconvenient truth and so is certainly being whitewashed, as b alludes to. They are not benefitted in their mission by this so-called “revisionism” effort.
Would ever our Jewish Banking overlords in the west condone a reapproximation of the moral rectitude of the NSDAP and affirm any form of nationalism? Would this truly benefit them one iota?
You better know the answer to that. Otherwise, you would be most clearly operating out of the shadows of bad faith, which, all along, I have believed you have been.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 2 2022 5:14 utc | 253

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Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 0:59 utc | 198
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 1:21 utc | 202
Posted by: Jen | May 2 2022 1:45 utc | 208
The question then becomes, where was this shot?
Anyone here who can identify the buildings?

Posted by: Dadda | May 2 2022 5:20 utc | 254

Per quanto riguarda il desiderio di Stalin di attaccare la Germania , leggo al capitolo II del libro Il Pilota di Ferro di Hans u. RUDEL, asso degli stuka della Luftwaffe , sui primi giorni di bombardamento dell’operazione “Barbarossa”:” … su tutte le strade vediamo grandi quantità di carri armati con le loro colonne di rifornimenti. Sono in maggioranza KW1, KW2 , E T34.Lasciamo cadere le nostre bombe sui carri e sulle batterie contraeree , poi mitragliamo le fanterie , quindi tornati al campo ,facciamo il pieno di munizioni e partiamo………….. Fin dai primi voli notiamo innumerevoli opere di fortificazione lungo la frontiera; spesso queste posizioni sono profonde centinaia di chilometri nell’interno della Russia…così vedendo sfilare sotto di noi a perdita d’occhio trinceramenti , aeroporti e strade militari ,non possiamo impedirci di pensare che è stata una fortuna l’aver preso l’iniziativa delle operazioni!

Posted by: Carlo | May 2 2022 5:24 utc | 255

… Makes wonder if that was set up as a headquarters for the – what was – coming attack on Donbas and by extention Russia.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 2 2022 4:43 utc | 248

Maybe not a military campaign headquarters at that location but other reports claim that the 50 French Mi officers are the remains of a 200+ strong team that ran an intelligence center in Azovstal.
As to NATO people in Ukraine generally, w.r.t. the the huge takeback of Donbas they were building up to, I would say that it’s now almost beyond debate that they were all there to perform duties consistent with their abilities and rank, on a kind of secondment basis.
Totally out of control, professionally, ethically and diplomatically.
Wonder what sort of intel those French MI officers got to see? Judging by the fact that Macron burned his credibility to the ground trying to get them out of there without RF speaking to them, hmmmm =)

Posted by: anon2020 | May 2 2022 5:26 utc | 256

Would ever our Jewish Banking overlords in the west condone a reapproximation of the moral rectitude of the NSDAP and affirm any form of nationalism? Would this truly benefit them one iota?
Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 2 2022 5:14 utc | 249
But doesn’t the historical military imperial expansionism of Hitler’s Germany negate any possibility of nationalism? I assume you are defining Nationalism as sticking to whatever political doctrine a country chooses for its own good and within its own borders and not imposing it on any other?

Posted by: K | May 2 2022 5:29 utc | 257

… Makes wonder if that was set up as a headquarters for the – what was – coming attack on Donbas and by extention Russia.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 2 2022 4:43 utc | 248
Actually, Azovstal is as good a place as any, and better than most, for senior NATO to run the Ukie Donbas takeback from. Senior NATO would have to avoid injury that would be hard to cover up so having the top people working from Azovstal seems perfectly plausible.. and this is where some of them are now trapped, god bless em.
Doubtless those nice French MI people will be only too happy to clear that matter up.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 2 2022 5:35 utc | 258

I think the serious problem with Russia is that it’s severely demographically underperforming and the present economic model, oligarchic, likely isn’t helping–it’s just so hollow, even fascist, as oligarchy tends to be. What Russia ideally should have done is redistributed its resource wealth far better, thereby increasing its population, ideally resulting in a baby boom, aiming for a population of at least 200 million. This would mean a significantly bigger internal consumer economy and a significantly bigger population than any of its European rivals, although alas not as big as the US’s. Obviously more population is a strategic defense in itself, making the country harder to conventionally conquer and dismember without resorting all but exclusively to the nuclear defensive threat. As it stands, the Russian politico-cultural paradigm seems quite hollow indeed, verging on the fascist-adjacent, meaning Sovietism without the egalitarian universalism.

Posted by: MallardB | May 2 2022 5:40 utc | 259

@Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 0:10 utc | 185

Fakery this crude ascends to Stalinesque levels. (Someone will hopefully correct me if I’m wrong.) I heard that a notable feature of Stalin’s propaganda apparatus was the deliberate deployment of utter absurdities, functioning as a loyalty test (the same thing happens here in USA, in the form of Trumpism): Those willing to parrot absurdities are obviously the most loyal.

Yes, this is a form of obedience training. It is done deliberately. If you point out the fakery you can be called a “conspiracy theorist”. If you don’t, they have succeeded in breaking down logic and reason. This is the work of psychopaths.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2022 5:42 utc | 260

Posted by: MallardB | May 2 2022 5:40 utc | 257
I think the US is closer to fascism than Russia, and closer practically speaking to oligarchy. Russia is trying to defend itself, the US is trying to take on the world. note, having a greater population has not addressed those issue.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 2 2022 5:47 utc | 261

@254 k
Just because one conquers does not mean that they intend to subject the population to all kinds of horrific forms of slavery.
See Caliphates allowing Christianity to continue in conquered nations, for example.
Unz has recently discovered that Hitler, while outlawing abortion in Germany, did mention that with conquered Soviet lands, they would have to encourage birth control and give access to abortion because the standard of living under Germany would allow a greater birthrate amongst Slavs. Does this sound like the thoughts of a man who sought mass executions of Slavs? No, but perhaps one with a slight eugenicist streak.
By all accounts, Hitler’s Wehrmacht was extremely well-behaved in conquered lands. Hitler took great pains to avoid bombing English civilian targets, for example, and it was not until Churchill decided to indiscriminately bomb German cities, that Nazi Germany had to respond in kind.
Germany also had access to advanced biological weapons which Hitler correctly refused to utilize. On the Isle of England, Churchhill had to be overruled because he sought the use of Anthrax over German civilian territory, which would have rendered vast territories uninhabitable for generations.
Hitler also gave very good terms to England to assuage them from continuing any further provocations after the retreat at Dunkirk and after England unceremoniously scuttled all of France’s Navy, to the tune of 8,000 Frenchmen dead.
It could be argued that it was only after communist underground movements, armed by the west, began their killing, that Germany was forced to behave more viciously.
Unz cites the figure that 80,000 executions occurred in France after liberation. This is a far greater number than the French Terror.

The point being that Hitler believed Europe was trapped between two behemoth-golems.
Can you be liberated if you don’t know you are actually a prisoner?

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 2 2022 5:54 utc | 262

I suggest those with all types of arcane imperialist motives for why BidenCorp® is determined to maintain the proxy war for as long as possible, consider Mike Hudson’s comments to Halper & Mate in his interview on useful idiots.
Hudson, a bloke who I have hard work listening to because of his speech flaw/impediment – probably the result of having been a kid seeing his father dragged outta their home by the feds, is really worth putting the work into to listen to on this subject.
Prof Hudson maintains that the huge inflation combined with a shortage of food that is the result of this war & the concommitant sanctions, is not a bug, it is a feature, the number one reason for the conflict.
He tells us that most of the ‘global south’ that is Africa, Latin America and some parts of Asia are going to be ripped apart by unaffordable food prices throughout 2022 & 2023.
amerika & the gang have created a special loans deal through the IMF to ‘assist’ those nations.
However in order to qualify for the loans, nations must sign up to a deal whereby they agree to reduce wages, destroy any organised labour and agree to privatize all state functions, that is health & education, as well as public utilities and producer boards, leaving those nations which attempt to prevent their populations from starving to death with an economy run entirely by outsiders, plus a huge debt which they will struggle to service, much less repay.
Hudson maintains that the plan emanated from the WEF, where billionaires maintained that there are 20% too many people on this planet. They claim to want to get rid of the ‘unproductive people’.
That last assertion by the WEF is insane when one considers that in the third world, global south, whatever you want to call it, unproductive people already die. There are virtually no means of supporting such types in a poverty ridden society.
It is types like most of us, aging baby boomers, living off pensions, superannuation and bourgeois family until we hit 90 or so who most qualify for that.
One part of me says they don’t target us because (i) we consume, or (ii)we vote for their puppets in great numbers or (iii) they had a go with covid, while the last part says we’ll be next.
I don’t much care as I’ve had a fairly good trot, but I do care that if Hudson is correct, once again the best, least deserving humans are gonna be the ones who cop the blame

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 2 2022 5:57 utc | 263

@8,12 and 15:
In the Netherlands the situation is similar. Only the left wing SP and right wing FvD are critical about the NATO war efforts, the FvD more outspoken.
I link the 1: 30 hr interview of emeritus history professor Karel v Wolveren with FvD leader Thierry Baudet, to illustrate his views, and the 80+ prof’s valuable analysis about the situation in Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQl3yw9bnIw
(in Dutch, cc : annotations and settings : auto translate, English)

Posted by: Rootman | May 2 2022 5:57 utc | 264

On closer inspection I agree with the teeth position comments. What a zombie stone face!

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2022 6:01 utc | 265

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 2 2022 5:57 utc | 261
I think they already target anybody in the US who isn’t well off, including baby boomers. look at all the 70 year olds who still work full time. as the song says, work your fingers to the bone, get bony fingers. or Tennessee Earnie Ford’s “what do ya get, another day older and deeper in debt”. mind you that was in the 1950’s, when working people still had a better chance than they do today because unions had not been eviscerated yet. we’re far better off than people in many countries, though, who are some of the most productive people in the world judging by the amount of goods they produce to ship to the US. i guess they judge productivity by how much stock you own.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 2 2022 6:10 utc | 266

NemesisCalling | May 2 2022 5:54 utc | 260
See:
T4 Eugenics program (including Euthanization & forced Sterilization),
Concentration camps, forced labor camps, death camps,
The Holocaust,
Industrialized execution of Soviet POWs on a similar scale,
The Commissar Order,
The Wermacht treatment of female (combatant) POWs (especially Soviet),
Lebensraum,
General Plan OST,
“Night & Fog” decree,
mass summary executions of former allies after surrender, ie Italian POWs, etc
& on & on & on …
For fuckin’ starters OTTOMH
If it struts like a Nazi, vomits indefensible verbal sewerage like a Nazi, and obviously knowingly & intentionally spouts falsity, apologia & FUD about goddamned Nazis, it is a Nazi. Or an unsophisticated yet serially determined dweller under bridges.
NemesisCalling, come on down !
FOAD.
Irritated Arms Control Wonk

Posted by: IACW | May 2 2022 6:29 utc | 267

@circumspect #75
“His name is Donald J. Trump,” Chomsky says. … He needs to join Biden in a rest home.
I would describe my politics as green, far left. BUT what a lot of my friends have failed to grasp is that the traditional “left” parties – UK Labour, German Greens, US Democrats, have been completely subverted by imperialist fascists who have no interest at all in their populations, and are instead obsessed with playing a “game” of the “grand chessboard using “left” politicians as a Trojan horse. I disagree with all Trumps policies but fascism is worse, and Trump should be supported in the US as the only credible opponent of fascism. Chomsky is sufficiently clear sighted to see how things are rather than rely on tribalism.

Posted by: Tim | May 2 2022 6:49 utc | 268

Jacob Dreizin from two days ago:
Here comes the second front
https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/04/29/here-comes-the-second-front/
Discusses the Transnistria situation. He doesn’t think Moldova will get involved, it will all be Ukraine. I’m not so sure.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 6:49 utc | 269

@Hausmeister #76
Different systems of money can and do coexist. There is a strong argument for having different national and international currencies for example.
As a rule, commodity based money (eg gold) is a poor choice, since it can be hoarded, and its supply cannot be expanded and contracted in accordance with the needs of the economy. Money as Debt as a medium of exchange is a brilliant innovation – money is created as required and destroyed when no longer needed. That is exactly what money should be. The problem we have is that private banks have inserted themselves as third-party monopoly intermediaries in the private contract between two parties, and acrue to themselves “interest”(!!!) rather than charging a reasonable (small) fixed fee for managing the contract. But their blind corruption and greed has brought their system to it’s knees, and it is at times like this that commodity money needs to be reintroduced as a temporary measure.

Posted by: Tim | May 2 2022 6:57 utc | 270

From Rybar Telegram channel… Apparently the US plan is to starve the Ukrainians as well as get them killed, and then blame the Russians for a “new Holodomor”…

Lend-Lease Price – Holodomor 2.0
As it became known to the Rybar team, the United States and other Western “friends” of Ukraine demand to cover the cost of lend-lease with food. First of all, we are talking about grains and oilseeds.
Actually, nothing else, except perhaps the organs of the remaining Ukrainians, in Kyiv will not be able to pay for the supply of military equipment. It is proposed to export grain and seeds through the port of Izmail and the ferry crossing Orlovka-Isakcha.
The fact is that Ukraine is one of the largest suppliers of grain in the world market. In 2021, its share in the world wheat market amounted to 10%, in volume terms – 51.2 million tons worth $12.5 billion. In 2020, it delivered about the same amount, but due to rising prices in the context of the pandemic, it earned 31% more.
According to estimates in the Office of the President, in 2022 Ukraine will be able to supply the West with 27-28 million tons of grain and leguminous crops, as well as about 17 million tons of oilseeds.
In this case, it will be possible to provide the western and part of the central regions of Ukraine with minimal food. The rest of the country is likely to experience a food crisis. For the famine in Odessa, Nikolaev, Kirovograd, Poltava, Sumy regions, it is proposed to lay responsibility on Russia. This will allow the Ukrainian authorities, and then the entire West, to launch an information campaign to promote Holodomor 2.0.
Back in early April, we already wrote (https://t.me/rybar/30572) that the sowing campaign was being deliberately disrupted in Kyiv. This is done in order to ultimately blame Russia for the famine, popularize the brand “Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe” and provoke panic in the food (and, as a result, the stock) market.
#Ukraine
@rybar

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 6:59 utc | 271

Posted by: Tim | May 2 2022 6:49 utc | 267
what sticks in my craw is this quote
“I don’t think there are “significant lies” in war reporting. The U.S. media are generally doing a highly creditable job in reporting Russian crimes in Ukraine. That’s valuable, just as it’s valuable that international investigations are underway in preparation for possible war crimes trials.”
the uncritical regurgitating of Ukraine propaganda about alleged Russian war crimes is not “highly creditable”. I can’t believe Chomsky said this, but apparently he did.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 2 2022 7:07 utc | 272

From Rybar Telegram channel…

The situation in Eastern Ukraine by the end of May 1, 2022
Situation near Kharkov
Fights are underway near Kharkov in Russkaya Lozova and Kutuzovka. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to drive the RF Armed Forces out of the fortified area in Tsirkuny and Cherkasy Tishki two days earlier, but suffered losses.
Now the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is making every effort to gain a foothold at the achieved milestone, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine are suffering heavy losses. To date, the loss of territorial defense detachments, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions reaches several hundred people killed and wounded.
The withdrawal of forces to Russkaya Lozovaya and Tsirkuny exposed the front in Kazachya Lopan: the RF Armed Forces managed to recapture two villages of Turovo and Makarovo south of the settlement.
The transfer of the most combat-ready units to Kharkiv continues to carry out sabotage. According to our information, the tasks of coordinating the DRG and sabotage operations in the zone bordering Russia are assigned to officers of the British Special Airborne Service (SAS).
At the same time, reinforcements of mercenaries from the “International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine” arrived in the regional center. This time we are talking about the German unit.
Situation near Liman
The allied forces entrenched themselves in Aleksandrovka and Stavki. The capture of Yampol made it possible to bypass Liman from the southeastern outskirts and occupy the triangle of roads Slavyansk – Liman – Seversk. The small villages of Dibrova and Ozernoye are in the gray zone.
A group of 1,000 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been “boiling in a cauldron” near Oskol near the reservoir for several days now.
Fights are going on near Svyatogorsk, but no one has yet entered the city itself. After the capture of Alexandrovka, the fighting shifted to the forest belt at the turn of Borogodichnaya – Pine – Yarovaya. The fiercest of all skirmishes near Bogorodichny.
Situation near Popasna and Bakhmut
Fierce battles continue in Popasna: the allied forces are starving the enemy, methodically breaking the suitable reinforcements. On average, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine per day reach 50-70 people killed and wounded, and the morale of the military personnel is falling.
High resolution map (https://i.ibb.co/zRQcFxL/01-05.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/8d2c282/29-04-1.jpg)#map #Donetsk #Zaporozhye #Izyum #Lugansk #Liman #Russia #Ukraine #Kharkov
@rybar

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 7:07 utc | 273

From Rybar Telegram channel… Ukraine is trying to preserve and repair their rail network…

And again about the sore point – the Ukrainian railway network.
The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Railways approved a plan for the use of railway lines in wartime. This is due to the adoption of the American law on Lend-Lease: preparations have begun for a huge number of platforms and wagon trains for their use in the next few months.
The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is already taking measures to protect strategically important railway lines from possible missile strikes. Air defense systems, including the Tor air defense system and Western-made MANPADS, are transferred to the main stations and railway lines (https://t.me/rybar/31863).
Moreover, the management of the UkrZhD company receives information about the movement of Russian troops and safe directions from local residents in different parts of the country through the Telegram feedback bot.
The Ukrainian leadership understands the importance of these routes and the consequences of stopping them. While we are discussing the need to preserve them, reserves and equipment are sent to the front line, which will be used against us.
We once again publish a list of important objects of the railway network of Ukraine:
List of all bridges across the Dnieper (https://t.me/rybar/31569)
List of railway bridges in western Ukraine (https://t.me/rybar/31571)
Traction substations: part 1 and (https://t.me/rybar/31602) part 2 (https://t.me/rybar/31603)
Critically important substations on the border with Poland (https://t.me/rybar/31950)
Depot: list 1 (https://t.me/rybar/31661) and list 2 (https://t.me/rybar/31662)
Recovery trains (https://t.me/rybar/31813) #railroads #USA #Ukraine
@rybar

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 7:11 utc | 274

A 2016 French TV special investigation broadcast on Canal+. The Ukrainian Embassy in Paris asked for this documentary to be taken off air. Ukraine – Masks of the Revolution. It shows very well the power that Right Sektor and Azov had at the time.

Posted by: NotEinstein | May 2 2022 7:14 utc | 275

@Debsisdead #261
Michael Hudson must be right. The determination to cause inflation and economic destruction cannot be an accident.
WEF maintained that there are 20% too many people on this planet. They claim to want to get rid of the ‘unproductive people’.
It is types like most of us, aging baby boomers, living off pensions, superannuation and bourgeois family until we hit 90 or so who most qualify for that

I don’t know about other countries but in the UK, most of the deaths from COVID 1st wave were elderly in care homes, and they actually died of Midazolam (with covid used as an excuse). In the second wave, most of the deaths were elderly in care homes who died from the side effects of the jab (which can be unpleasant even for the young).

Posted by: Tim | May 2 2022 7:14 utc | 276

@pretzelattack #271
Yeah, agreed, that really sucks. Disappointing that Craig Murray is so anti Russia too.

Posted by: Tim | May 2 2022 7:17 utc | 277

From https://t.me/polkovnik_hodarenok Telegram channel… Comment on Russian aircraft losses..

The recognition by the military of Ukraine that the “Ghost of Kyiv” was invented by science fiction writers from the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a great progress. Which, most likely, is due to laughter and obscenities from the Ukrainian population.
But TsIPSO-shniks continue to tell tales about hundreds of downed Russian aircraft. Only now the imaginary victories of the “Ghost” are recorded at the expense of the 40th brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force.
And then I disappoint them. According to various open data, for the entire time of the SVO, the “peremoga” failed to shoot down a single one of our manned aircraft in air battles. In total, less than fifteen Russian combat aircraft were shot down by the Ukrainian side. Moreover, the main losses fell on Su-25 attack aircraft, shot down by MANPADS and short-range air defense systems, and not by aircraft.
These losses occurred in the first quarter of the NMD, when Ukraine still had normal air defense systems, and Russian pilots took risks by entering the areas of operation of the remnants of Ukrainian air defense.
The fighter aviation of the Independent as a means of air defense showed almost zero effectiveness.
#Aviation #Air Defense #Ghost of Kiev

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 7:18 utc | 278

Comment from Army_Russia Telegram channel on the Poseidon nuclear drone submarine…

Secret underwater drone of Russia “Poseidon” – Checkmate the US nuclear shield.
The nuclear deterrence system between the USSR and the USA is based on one principle – whoever uses nuclear weapons first will receive an inevitable retaliation strike.
In this doctrine, the USSR had one advantage – the vast territory of the country. But now the Russian Federation has a weapon that has completely destroyed the existing system of balances and balances in the security sphere.
The Poseidon deep-sea complex (Status-6, Cephalopod) is an autonomous drone with a miniature nuclear installation and a combat thermonuclear charge (10 Mt), capable of swimming for an arbitrarily long time at a depth of 1 kilometer!
Its tactical and technical characteristics are classified. What was known was so amazing that it caused laughter from Western military experts. After March 1, 2018, their smiles were replaced by fear – an explosion at a depth of up to 1 kilometer causes a Mega Tsunami, of enormous destructive power. The principle of a dirty-cobalt thermonuclear charge is capable of infecting megatons of water with radiation, after which it will rush to the mainland.
The explosion of one device is capable of wiping a third of the United States off the face of the earth. The detonation of four devices located on different borders of the North American continent is guaranteed to destroy the entire country – and most importantly, it makes it impossible for our respected partners to launch a massive retaliatory strike on our territory.
Of course, there are still US ballistic missile submarines. But our Ministry of Defense also has a surprise for them!
Military expert-analyst Kulikov D.V.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 7:24 utc | 279

@Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:05 utc | 236

Watched the Twitter video of Pelosi. Notice how they have a long march down a stretch of street, then two cuts to the front of the building, then inside – which could be any office anywhere. No clue where any of that is. But clearly the long march was done to prove they are in Kiev. Whether it does or not I have no clue – and don’t particularly care, either. But that they have to make the effort to prove they are in Kiev is suspicious in itself.

It is a very odd video, the initial wide angle scene where they are walking towards the camera with buildings in the background could be real or faked against a green screen. Notice the guy walking with a suitcase across behind them (how is that allowed in this high security environment??), and notice his feet disappearing in front of the green grass…
Hard to say but it looks staged.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2022 7:25 utc | 280

Circumspect @ 241:
The question of whether Nancy Pelosi and other US lawmakers actually were in Kiev was a good one to bring up, in the context of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s trip to Kiev in the space of one day (10 April 2022) which would have been impossible for him to have made given that Ukrainian airspace has been closed to civilian aircraft since the war started. Johnson would have had to fly to Poland and then taken a train ride to Kiev. No way he could have zipped over to Kiev and back to Brize Norton in the UK in one day.
Sure you and I have seen the video of Pelosi, Zelensky and others walking about in what looks like part of Kiev but the buildings and the pavements could have been put up by people skilled in constructing movie sets that replicate scenes in real cities.
Until we are able to find out what the flight schedule from the US to Poland or Ukraine was for Pelosi, and what the timeline was as well, I guess we will have to continue to speculate.

Posted by: Jen | May 2 2022 7:27 utc | 281

Re: Come and See
This film should have a triple XXX health warning, even for those, like me, who’ve seen some outlandish stuff.
I’ve only seen it twice, once in a London cinema when it came out, and I was shell-shocked and trembling for a couple of hours in the sunshine.
I saw the version above a few years ago and it had not lost any of its power. It was the first (?) Russian film to use extensive steadicam. Many of its scenes have been ripped off by lesser war films.
It has a flaw, that all Germans are portrayed as ravening beasts in human form, less sympathetic than Orcs…
The climax of genocidally destroying a village and all its inhabitants is really hard to stomach and if you are of a sensitive nature then best not to watch it.
I have no wish to see that again.

Posted by: JulianJ | May 2 2022 7:28 utc | 282

I’ll join the vragtes train if that’s ok ? Nothing personal but there are a multitude of issues raised in that comment. I’ll stick to one point. Economic.
Capitalism and its other face Anti-capitalism are created concepts to divide and control the majority of humanity and keep us as slaves of the forever Owners of all the Earth in their eyes as they have for centuries. They are just another religion that provides a layer of control over us and hides these ancients from possible revolt and retribution.
Like all controlling religions – I would put sport, media and entertainment in that group , economic dogma is perhaps the most insidious. For example taxpayers DON’T pay for ANY government spending.
So when we say capitalism is bad – we are led to reject investment, innovation, artistry, craft and WORK that produces things which make peoples lives better because not everyone can make or produce everything that makes their lives secured and wealthier. We need specialists ever since the first ones made axe and arrow heads for example. We need farmers and animal husbandry, we need the cheese makers!
Capitalism , global capitalism that you may refer to, is not about that original specialists who invest and then add value and then be able to exchange their product for a profit for themselves.
Such human endeavour and markets , towns, roads etc – human culture exist because of these.
All existed before the lie of Capitalism (J S Mills)and it’s so called antithesis of Marxism.
The biggest lie of all is the understanding of money and the deliberate conflation of personal or businesses money with Government money and the Magic Money Trees and their owners and high priests.
They who had a choke hold on our human life spans and upon HISTORY and Nations and its constitutions and beliefs – have met their match finally . One they can’t destroy without being destroyed themselves – that is misrepresented by racism against all things Russian. The hatred of Putin to the disappearance of Meerkat tv puppets used to sale Insurance! As part of cancel culture.
The biggest weapon – the supposed mighty religion of Economics and its Power of ejection from its Church through control of Money – Russian Money held as $ & €’s – has FAILED.
The fact of the Yen taking a downturn as well as the Collective Western Economies it is tied into shows clearly it is a World War – we started and they are finishing – and this time they will not be fooled into stopping and leaving any Nazi ideologues existing.
It is an existential war – world war – it had been raging for centuries and its ‘nuclear’ option was planned and unleashed after goading Russia into the Ukraine as a excuse to unleash that economic nuke.
The failure to destroy the Russian Economy. Currency, Trade and morale and its alliances means that our Owners are in retreat and they are prepared to die in their bunker mentality – Azovstal and s just a real manifestation. These Russian allies , China and the rest of the SCO is a formidable coalition with its BRI formed as a coalition of the Anti-Economic Church forces against the ‘Collective Waste’ which is the maddened canon fodder slaves of the great Owners endeavours.
This is not about Putin as much as it is not about Xi or any leader that is demonised and then murdered it is about these they represent and protect against the ancient venality and its empires- geographic and more importantly Hearts & Minds. Our minds – we are all in this World War – and most of us are on the wrong side in the ‘West’, doomed to Waste.
Resist and get on the right side, reject the Religion of Mammon and if ever a Nazi makes themselves manifest around you strike them down hard and fast.
The Empire is dead dead dead.
Long live the new multipolar and truly human empire – 9th May should be celebrated.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 2 2022 7:37 utc | 283

From ColonelCassad Telegram channel… Recap of events as of May 1 evening… Note highlighted parts…

Map of hostilities and the situation on the fronts on the evening of May 1, 2022
Key (https://sun4-10.userapi.com/s/v1/ig2/r3VpV4xXV_KHOKoMit1Eym8ABAp-9M8EYV-BaA91WWLdseNjxvD0kMACP1fVeuy-us9kISZSiZObyPfrA49W_9Di.jpg?size=2221×1404&quality=95&type=album) There was an arrival at the ammunition depot in Belgorod. “On the border of three municipalities – Borisov and Belgorod districts and the Yakovlevsky urban district, a fire broke out at the facility of the Ministry of Defense,” the Governor of the Belgorod Region said (https://t.me/readovkanews/32557).
The support of the railway bridge in the Kursk region was also destroyed. Governor Roman Starovoit confirmed (https://t.me/readovkanews/32561) the version of sabotage, the Investigative Committee opened a criminal case under the article “terrorist act”. Currently, investigators (https://t.me/readovkanews/32567) and recovery teams are working at the site of the explosion.
In the Ukrainian canals, the destruction of the bridge was turned into a whole event, and they have already begun to discuss what to do with the captured Belgorod region. As it is not difficult to guess, these blows did not deliver serious damage to us. TsIPSO needs at least some victories to hide the monstrous losses at the front.

For the same purpose, fakes are dispersed. Today, Ukrainian propaganda threw in another tale about “the wounding of the head of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Gerasimov near Izyum”, and in the evening she herself denied her own fake. By the way, all these ukrosmi post fakes every day – their audience is not pretentious. It must be understood that without such “ghosts of Kyiv”, Ukrainian society will start to panic, because there are no real victories. But there are serious losses and the deplorable state of the army. After all, it is not so much foreign weapons that decide on the front line, but the hands that control them.
The front continues to seethe. Yes, just roar. In some places there is an advance, local breakthroughs of the enemy defense, but in general, the enemy is being crushed at pre-occupied lines. Good activity in the Slavic direction, where the front moves from north to south. The enemy suffered serious losses near Yampol and was forced to retreat. There are active battles in the Krasny Liman area. At the same time, the front is moving from the side of Izyum to the north, in the area of ​​​​n. n. Dolgenkoe. If these movements continue in a northerly direction, then Slavyansk will be in a semicircle. After the breakthrough of Yampol and the cleansing of Krasny Liman, the troops, most likely, will move to n. Nikolaevka settlement. According to the relief, this village is located on a hill in relation to Slavyansk, said First Deputy Minister of Information of the DPR Daniil Bezsonov.
In the Donetsk direction, our troops continue to crush the enemy on the previously broken section of the front between Gorlovka and Yasinovataya, bypassing the grouping defending in Avdiivka on the left flank. At the same time, they managed to break through the enemy’s defensive lines in the area of ​​Avdiivka itself. Fighting also continues in the village of Marinka. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are randomly striking, in the morning under heavy fire Donetsk, Gorlovka, Yasinovataya and Yenakiyevo. Ukrainian troops are hitting residential areas and infrastructure from large-caliber mortars and MLRS “GRAD”. There are victims. The railway infrastructure of Yasinovataya was once again at the epicenter of Ukrainian fire.
In the Zaporozhye region, in the area of ​​Ugledar, Velyka Novosyolka and Gulyaipol, there are no special advances, but simultaneously with the grinding of the enemy, we are accumulating forces in several sectors of the front for a breakthrough to the north. At night, the Armed Forces of Ukraine beat on Tokmak, which came under the control of the Russian troops. Two Ukrainian S-300 complexes were destroyed in the area of ​​Artemovsk and Zaporozhye.
Mariupol is gradually returning to normal life. Today, the evacuation of civilians from the territory of the Azovstal plant continued. It is reported that 80 people left in the new group (https://t.me/readovkanews/32569).
On the southern front, positional battles on the border of the Nikolaev region. Arrivals in Nikolaev.
From the interesting: Russian special forces are able not only to valiantly and selflessly do their job of clearing and holding important objects – but also very creatively (https://t.me/russianonwars/269) to retrofit entrusted military equipment.
Also, our military sent a video review (https://t.me/RVvoenkor/10401) of the destroyed S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and a missile guidance radar.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 7:40 utc | 284

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2022 7:25 utc | 279
There is now much more sophisticated tech for image / video manipulation, merging, relighting and synthesis.
Search for “video generation GAN”.
Granted, the results should be convincing, so maybe they did get someone’s nephew to photoshop it.
If the Ukie are producing these images / videos they are a bit weird when it comes to lying to westerners.
They just don’t seem to get things quite right. I suspect it’s because they’re too accustomed to lying to an almost pathetically captured and intimidated Ukie home audience.
That and the fact that the Ukie establishment are utterly obscene filth, the imprint of which they seem unable to conceal.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 2 2022 7:52 utc | 285

Posted by: JulianJ | May 2 2022 7:28 utc | 281

“It has a flaw, that all Germans are portrayed as ravening beasts in human form, less sympathetic than Orcs… “

Respectfully, there is no ‘flaw’, the subject units conduct you reference is a homogenized representation of the absolutely routine operations & actual conduct of formal Einsatzgruppen (Killing Units) detachments, as well as Police & Security units as well as attached, under-command regular Wehrmacht sub-units formations up to 2nd line Division scale when conducting so called ‘cleansing'(genocide), anti-partisan operations & sweeps … throughout the war.
The above is thoroughly, indisputably documented.
The events are intended to be ‘representative’ of the norm of the testimony of the limited survivors/witnesses of the over 675(?)+ villages and towns to suffer such gentle mercies in only(merely), the SSR Republic of Belarus (IIRC) … alone.
If there is a flaw, it is that it minimized what occurred on an industrial scale, routinely, and self-censored events that could not ever in good conscience ever be re-created on film for general public viewing.
The fanatical Nazi’s militia’s & paramilitaries now embedded within The Ukraines regular military are proud, dedicated & active inheritors of such conduct towards Untermenschen & those they perceive as weak or vulnerable.
Curious … Ukrainian fascists refer to the above groups, as well as Russian-aligned/sympathetic, yet especially Russian (Moskals(Derogatory)), as ‘Orcs’. Hm …
If you can stomach footage in “Saving Private Ryan”, you’ll more than cope with “Come & See”, IMHO.

Posted by: IACW | May 2 2022 8:12 utc | 286

Norwegian | May 2 2022 7:25 utc | 279
Hard to say but it looks staged.
IMO it is a large green screen blend. The walkers have no shadows so they are probably shot inside a studio in the green environment. They all take the first step at the same time at the start.
But they have bad green screen blending error at https://twitter.com/i/status/1520761204989472769 at 3 seconds in, when the person at the rear passes left to right, in front of a background green grass; this results in foreground image loss, aka no legs. Green screen blending of a green background does not work out well, not a good idea. He seems to lose his head for a moment at around 3secs also.
If you play the video frame by frame you will see it.

Posted by: Lapin | May 2 2022 9:17 utc | 287

Now, this will become interesting.
Act 1:
Hungary will veto any EU initiative to restrict imports of Russian energy resources.
This was stated by the head of the Office of the Prime Minister of Hungary Gergei Guyash:
“We have made it clear that we will never support the extension of European Union sanctions against Russia to the energy sector.”
Earlier, German Chancellor Scholz told reporters in an interview that Europe will refuse to import Russian coal in the summer, and by the end of the year – from oil.
Sputniknews 1
Act 2:
The European Commission will allow Hungary and Slovakia not to impose an embargo on oil from Russia.
This is reported by Reuters.
The ban on oil supplies from Russia is likely to be introduced in stages and will come into force only at the beginning of next year, according to agency sources.
Sputniknews 2
EC falling slowly apart?

Posted by: TomD | May 2 2022 10:07 utc | 288

270 – US trade unions had not been eviscerated yet, but the process was starting. There had been appreciable Communist influence in some unions, and undermining this was a key objective after WW2. This was eventually achieved, sometimes by setting up overtly anti-Communist unions while legally harassing pro-Communist ones or individual activists. One cost was that US trade unions lost much of their militancy and even purpose.

Posted by: Waldorf | May 2 2022 10:17 utc | 289

@Lapin | May 2 2022 9:17 utc | 292
Yes, that was precisely my observation as well. The video compositing error gives it away.
I don’t know where the background is from, if they are not total fools it should be somewhere in Kiev, but it could be Lviv, Lublin or Warsaw for all I know. The foreground with Polosi could be anywhere, almost certainly not in Ukraine, but maybe Lublin or Warsaw where the hand shaking with Elensky could take place.
If you add the fact that flights and trains to Kiev are no longer an option, it makes the whole thing even more suspicious.
Years ago in a private inheritance case I had to search to find a house outside a town in Portugal where I had never been in person. I had some blurry photos and an areal overview to work from, it took me 2 weeks on Google Maps to find it, which I eventually did. In this case the options are too many, so I think we would need info from someone with local knowledge to say where the background is from.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2022 10:19 utc | 290

280 – I know someone who had a severe reaction to the Covid vaccine, a youngish man but with other health problems. Basically he was bed-ridden for several days after getting a booster.

Posted by: Waldorf | May 2 2022 10:22 utc | 291

On a lighter note ..
https://twitter.com/ProfessorsBlogg/status/1520865119101722635

Posted by: Stevelancs | May 2 2022 11:40 utc | 292

#—AND for his intrepid support for the restoration of fascism throughout europe – a life in prison.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2022 0:36 utc | 197
between a rock and a hard place?
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/retired-canadian-general-under-police-investigation-for-alleged-sexual-misconduct-is-now-in-ukraine

Posted by: Anne B | May 2 2022 11:57 utc | 293

#—Posted by: Eric Newhill | May 2 2022 0:36 utc | 196
On another note, people here should be aware that I think Bernard is an unreasonable anti-American with some kind of personal axe to grind – and he is perfectly capable of trying to sell ridiculous propaganda thinly veiled as “analysis”.
Thank you for making us aware of what you think. I have more than one axe to grind with ‘muricans. Where do you want to start?

Posted by: Anne B | May 2 2022 12:23 utc | 294

Now I assume the Mr. Lavrov measures every word he utters, which make this situation doubly funny. Lavrov knows what he is talking about.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-denounces-lavrovs-hitler-comments-summons-russian-ambassador-2022-05-02/

Posted by: Tom_12 | May 2 2022 12:56 utc | 295

@170 circumspect | May 1 2022 22:59 utc
Yeah, more than likely the photos are legitimate. You *could* fake them but it would be a real pain in the ass. (I could anyway) Probably more hassle than it’s worth.
Don’t be too annoyed about it. A camera is a very good liar when you get the optics. You should have a play around with an SLR when you get the chance. It’s really quite fun.

Posted by: S.O. | May 2 2022 12:59 utc | 296

House Republican Introduces Bill To Give Biden Sweeping Authorities To Wage War in Ukraine

On Sunday, Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) announced a new Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF). If passed, the AUMF will allow President Joe Biden to deploy American troops to defend Ukraine if Russia uses chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons.

Posted by: JinBox | May 2 2022 13:24 utc | 297

“…You better know the answer to that. Otherwise, you would be most clearly operating out of the shadows of bad faith, which, all along, I have believed you have been.”
NemesisCalling@254
Now you are becoming hysterical.
I have attempted in a polite and friendly way to correct the very many historical and political errors that you and your mentor, Unz, have made while attempting to resuscitate the Nazi movement which did so much harm in the world.
In a long political life I have come across your sort before: you have no ideas of your own- they only come after serious thought the systematic gathering of information- and so you fasten on to any contrarian point of view exotic enough to ensure that you will be, if not an original, at least a controversial voice in any discussions.
You should not however delude yourself- the powers that be, The Establishment, the oligarchs are all very happy for you to promote apologies of the Nazi system that their equivalents in Germany devised to justify their massacre of the partisans of the poor. You run no risks by joining in with the Zelenskyites- Ukraine is a laboratory in which imperialism is testing its last line of defence.
Here is some reading which will do you more good that either Unz, David Irving or the New York Times https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/05/02/ukraine-hunts-down-traitors-helping-russia/

Posted by: bevin | May 2 2022 13:50 utc | 298

Ukrainian strike on Donetsk market was a terrorist act (RT, Eva Bartlett, April 30, 2022 — link is to archive.org to avoid blocking in Western countries)

If the Donetsk marketplace that was hit by rocket artillery on Thursday had been in a city controlled by Kiev, the names and faces of the five civilians killed would be on all major news sites. But because it was another Ukrainian attack on civilians in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), the deaths and 23 additional civilians injured will almost certainly go unreported, as has the been the norm during the regime’s eight years of the Donbass and Western media’s eight years of ignoring the attacks.

Posted by: S | May 2 2022 13:52 utc | 299

“At this point I wish I never brought it up.”
Posted by: circumspect | May 2 2022 4:10 utc | 241
I agree.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 2 2022 4:14 utc | 247
I’m really sorry I wasted your time with a bunch of posts on compositing. I should just lurk for awhile and hide my frazzled head. Still… the full story, of how this party got accomodated on what’s left of Ukrainian railroads, might be interesting to hear more about. It’s a little difficult for me to credit that Pelosi & friends could be trundling through a war zone if there were zero coordination with the Russians. We might never know about that, if nobody wants to say so.
The prospect of a May 9 promotion of the SMO to declared war with NATO came up early in this thread. This kind of rumor virtually starts itself — it could resolve some puzzles for me. We see continued cross-border raids in the wake of the Moskva’s sinking — to my perception Russia’s response to an avalanche of provocations has been nearly hyper-restrained, so far. No targeting of “decision-making centers” for instance. Not yet. Spooky?
Could be we’re in a one-week count-down to full-scale WWIII. We’ve heard a couple a very serious forewarnings already. Russia knows the West won’t listen. RF will issue just one more of these formal warnings about interference, I expect, sometime this week.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 2 2022 14:04 utc | 300