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May 1, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-58
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …
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When think Amerikas political class couldn’t sink any lower they some do. Posted by: jo6pac | May 1 2022 12:40 utc | 1 According to the Saker, the Red Cross is in the process of evacuating the civilians within the Azovstal Complex, but not the Nazi’s, however the Nazi’s want their 600+ wounded evacuated as well the UN is involved as well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 1 2022 13:11 utc | 3 Wife didn’t understand this Ukraine thing outside of MSM narrative until we watched “Come and See” Posted by: Crazy88s | May 1 2022 13:21 utc | 4 English newspaper the Telegraph reports that a “British soldier” not a mercenary has been captured in Ukraine by the RF Andrew Hill is from Plymouth. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 1 2022 13:21 utc | 5 More from the Sakers SitRep. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 1 2022 13:35 utc | 6 Here’s the latest Commentary on the War by Jacques Baud. Posted by: Kim | May 1 2022 13:40 utc | 7 Former US Marine and Senator Richard Black answered the question: Posted by: njet | May 1 2022 13:53 utc | 8
A good piece. I totally agree with this paragraph:
That reinforces my post from yesterday that we should call them “Pinazis” (Poor imitation Nazis) and the adherents “Pinheads”. Posted by: Opport Knocks | May 1 2022 14:02 utc | 9 I’m really grateful for the many posters on this site and for b who’s site it is. Especially interesting to me are the posts of karlof, Mr Hack, Norwegian, Scorpion, Arch Bungle and others. Interesting because their posts are usually articulate, researched and well argued. Posted by: Vragtes | May 1 2022 14:05 utc | 10 European Taxpayers will have to pay for all that junk which is send to Ukraine after the conflict is over. Posted by: Andrew B. | May 1 2022 14:13 utc | 11 Posted by: Vragtes | May 1 2022 14:05 utc | 10 Posted by: Arvy | May 1 2022 14:26 utc | 12 njet | May 1 2022 13:53 utc | 8 Posted by: Hausmeister | May 1 2022 14:30 utc | 13 We are watching the death throes of the American Empire. My hopes are that it does not lead to the destruction of the civilized world. Posted by: Undercutter | May 1 2022 14:37 utc | 14 @ njet | May 1 2022 13:53 utc | 8
Posted by: La Bastille | May 1 2022 14:48 utc | 15 Below is a link to the latest from Pepe Escobar that resonates with me Posted by: psychohistorian | May 1 2022 14:50 utc | 16 @Hausmeister @13 Posted by: Manage without me | May 1 2022 14:52 utc | 17 We are watching the death throes of the American Empire. My hopes are that it does not lead to the destruction of the civilized world. Posted by: SailorsWife | May 1 2022 14:54 utc | 18 Please allow me to add to my post #8: Posted by: njet | May 1 2022 14:56 utc | 19 Gas prices getting ridiculous in Germany. I paid EUR 95 today for 45 litres, around EUR 2,13 per litre. Had to drive 450 Km to pick up a used bike I purchased, paid EUR 800 and around EUR 100 on top. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | May 1 2022 14:59 utc | 20 @ Hausmeister
Ps: in France too, only “nationalists” or “souverainistes” share this sane mind. Posted by: La Bastille | May 1 2022 15:11 utc | 21 @njet @19 Posted by: Manage without me | May 1 2022 15:14 utc | 22 Vragtes|14:05 utc|10 Posted by: Pnyx | May 1 2022 15:15 utc | 23 This again from a Saker field report, and its very worrying. If true a escalation of hostilities with other nations troops other than Ukraine’s could be on the cards Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 1 2022 15:17 utc | 24 @Posted by: SailorsWife | May 1 2022 14:54 utc | 18 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 1 2022 15:18 utc | 25 “I do not like to call it “neo-Nazi” because “Nazism” was a clearly defined political doctrine, while in Ukraine, we are talking about a variety of movements that combine all the features of Nazism (such as antisemitism, extreme nationalism, violence, etc.), without being unified into a single doctrine. They are more like a gathering of fanatics.” Posted by: William Gruff | May 1 2022 15:19 utc | 26 Posted by: Vragtes | May 1 2022 14:05 utc | 10 Posted by: Kim | May 1 2022 15:20 utc | 27 @ Arne Hartmann | May 1 2022 14:59 utc | 20 Posted by: La Bastille | May 1 2022 15:23 utc | 28 jo6pac @ 1 Posted by: circumspect | May 1 2022 15:27 utc | 29 Wife didn’t understand this Ukraine thing outside of MSM narrative until we watched “Come and See” Posted by: Qtto | May 1 2022 15:28 utc | 30 Wife didn’t understand this Ukraine thing outside of MSM narrative until we watched “Come and See” Posted by: Qtto | May 1 2022 15:32 utc | 31 Posted by: Manage without me | May 1 2022 15:14 utc | 22 Posted by: Svorane | May 1 2022 15:34 utc | 32 Vragtes @10: “I am saddened by their references to dead Ukrainian soldiers as “pigs”.” Posted by: William Gruff | May 1 2022 15:39 utc | 33 @Posted by: circumspect | May 1 2022 15:27 utc | 29 Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 1 2022 15:40 utc | 34 A good bit of video Kompromat featuring Hunter, The big guy, Trump, and/or other – friends and upper level government associates of Epstein and Maxwell’s would be more upsetting to the “powers that be” than any bmob. A great reset, if you will. Posted by: Chaka Khagan | May 1 2022 15:48 utc | 35 Posted by: Qtto | May 1 2022 15:32 utc | 31 Posted by: Klimov’s Ghost | May 1 2022 15:49 utc | 36 All of northern Virginia would essentially be annihilated. There would hardly be any human life remaining in Loudoun County, Prince William County, Fairfax County, Arlington, Alexandria. The Pentagon lies in Arlington County. The Pentagon would simply be a glowing mass of molten sand. There would be no human life there and there would be no human life for many miles around it. Just across the Potomac, the nation’s capital, there would be no life remaining in the nation’s capital. The Capitol Building would disappear forever. All of the monuments, all of these glorious things, nothing would remain. If you go to the coast of Virginia you have the Norfolk Naval Shipyard, you have the port of Norfolk. You have the greatest accumulation of naval power on the face of the earth. This is where we park all of our aircraft carriers, you know, all of our nuclear submarines, all of those things. There would be nothing remaining, there would be nothing remaining of any of those shipping industries there (Col. Richard Black) Posted by: john | May 1 2022 15:50 utc | 37 A testimony from Austria´s capital, Vienna, on the suffering of the Ukrainian elites whom Pelosi went to meet in this Workers Day….An idea of where these meetings may be taking place…. Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 1 2022 15:55 utc | 38 SitRep on Ukraine state of affairs…gentilece of Arestovich, advisor to Elensky´s chief of staff… Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 1 2022 16:07 utc | 39 https://sputniknews.com/20220501/chinese-regulators-banks-reportedly-brainstorm-ways-to-save-assets-threatened-by-us-1095181244.html Posted by: Eighthman | May 1 2022 16:09 utc | 40 Posted by: Vragtes | May 1 2022 14:05 utc | 10 Posted by: Qtto | May 1 2022 16:13 utc | 41 80 civilians have left Azovstal – sputniknews.com Posted by: Manage without me | May 1 2022 16:22 utc | 42 from Unz, food for thought. . . Posted by: Don Bacon | May 1 2022 16:28 utc | 43 This is quite likely in the top three sites for rational commenters…maybe top two. Posted by: robert | May 1 2022 16:29 utc | 44 from Unz (link not accepted) Posted by: Don Bacon | May 1 2022 16:32 utc | 45 Manage without me | May 1 2022 14:52 utc | 17 Posted by: Hausmeister | May 1 2022 16:36 utc | 46 “The faster the West accepts the new geopolitical situation, the better it will be for the West itself and for the entire international community.” Posted by: Undercutter | May 1 2022 16:37 utc | 47 Konstantin Yaroshenko was swapped and released from US imprisonment. Posted by: Tom_12 | May 1 2022 16:46 utc | 48 @Hausmeister Posted by: Manage without me | May 1 2022 16:46 utc | 49 Americans and Europeans don’t even know who they are anymore They’ve been brainwashed every which way possible. They try to say Russians are torn about being European or Asia – BS The Russians know exactly who they are – the Americans and Europeans are backing Ukrainian Nazis – WTF is that all about. Nothin like taking a big shit on their WW II vets. Posted by: GMC | May 1 2022 17:05 utc | 50 According to the “New York Times,” Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the US House of Representatives, met with Zelensky in Kiev today and “pledged broad economic, military and humanitarian support for Ukraine’s government, saying the United States would stand with its ally until Russia was defeated.” Does Pelosi even understand what it would take to defeat Russia? Of course not. She drinks the Kool-Aid and then serves it to others. As MoA readers know well, the Times is little more than a propaganda sheet, much like other Western stalwarts of “serious” news, including the BBC and “The Guardian.” Ever since 9/11, all these news organizations have been undeserving of any attention beyond pleasant diversions such as crossword puzzles, recipes etc. Posted by: Rob | May 1 2022 17:11 utc | 51 Manage without me | May 1 2022 16:46 utc | 47 Posted by: Hausmeister | May 1 2022 17:12 utc | 52 @ Vragtes | May 1 2022 14:05 utc | 10 Posted by: james | May 1 2022 17:18 utc | 53 Kim @ 7, Posted by: oldhippie | May 1 2022 17:20 utc | 54 Since the Trucker Convoy got pushed back by the Nazis in Ottawa, perhaps Putin would be open to a GoFundMe for a Kinzhal to be sent to Parliament to deal with the fascist infestation there. I’ve got some chickens & a few goats to put towards the cause… Posted by: ianMoone | May 1 2022 17:22 utc | 55 “It is time to negotiate a peace that protects the peoples of all areas and allows them to live with their families free from the fear of being bombed.” Posted by: vetinLA | May 1 2022 17:23 utc | 56 Hi Vragtes (10), Posted by: Michael | May 1 2022 17:32 utc | 57 And all this turmoil globally because some of humanity can’t live up to the ideals they profess to believe in. Posted by: vetinLA | May 1 2022 17:36 utc | 58 @Vragtes 10 Posted by: Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 17:40 utc | 59 In reply yo @Arvy | May 1 2022 14:26 utc | 12 Posted by: Vragtes | May 1 2022 17:42 utc | 60 Does anyone have any thoughts concerning Pelosi’s alleged visit to Kiev to meet w/ Zelensky? Posted by: Eric Newhill | May 1 2022 17:43 utc | 61 A macabre story from the Saker’s blog. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 1 2022 17:45 utc | 62 Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 17:40 utc | 57 Posted by: donten | May 1 2022 17:49 utc | 63 …. Does Pelosi even understand what it would take to defeat Russia? … Posted by: anon2020 | May 1 2022 17:50 utc | 64 Eighthman @ 40 Posted by: oldhippie | May 1 2022 17:52 utc | 66 I made clear that I supported Russia’s SMO and that it was forced on him by Nato and the collective west. Russia is facing an existentialist threat by the USA, UK, the EU, NATO and others. And in confronting this threat, he has my full support. But you question my perception of Putin’s ideology. Posted by: Bemildred | May 1 2022 18:04 utc | 67 Apologies if this has been reported before here (or worse yet debunked) but Tony@Cyberspec1 reported that Posted by: spudski | May 1 2022 18:11 utc | 68 So the Chinese have received a wake up call- they watched as the US/UK walked away with Afghani bank assets, with Venezuelan Gold (Guido seems happy), with Libyan, and Serbian Gold, with Iranian Assets, and of late with Russian bank assets to the tune of $300 Billion. Posted by: AParadiseLost | May 1 2022 18:13 utc | 69 @donten 61 Posted by: Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 18:24 utc | 70 Posted by: Qtto | May 1 2022 15:32 utc | 31 Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | May 1 2022 18:27 utc | 71 Eric Newhill @ 59 Posted by: circumspect | May 1 2022 18:29 utc | 72 spudski@66 Posted by: bevin | May 1 2022 18:29 utc | 73 Posted by: William Gruff | May 1 2022 15:19 utc | 26 Posted by: Baron | May 1 2022 18:31 utc | 74 Posted by: circumspect | May 1 2022 18:29 utc | 70 Posted by: One Too Many | May 1 2022 18:40 utc | 76 Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 18:24 utc | 68 Posted by: donten | May 1 2022 18:43 utc | 77 Noam Chomsky, in an interview this week, says “fortunately” there is “one Western statesman of stature” who is pushing for a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine rather than looking for ways to fuel and prolong it. Posted by: circumspect | May 1 2022 18:45 utc | 78 Wow. I’m prepared to rank Pepe Escobar as the best English-language writer I can find, until someone points me to anyone better. He keeps rising in my estimation, with each successive burst of clarity, and deep chiaroscuro from historical illumination. His latest delves into Moscow as the “Third Rome” (Byzantium/Constantinople as the “Second Rome”), concluding with this prognosis for Odessa:
https://thesaker.is/clash-of-christianities-why-europe-cannot-understand-russia/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 1 2022 18:50 utc | 79 Bemildred | May 1 2022 18:04 utc | 65 Posted by: Hausmeister | May 1 2022 18:51 utc | 80 donten @74– Putin’s message: “Why is this happening?” “I spoke about our biggest concerns and worries, and about the fundamental threats which irresponsible Western politicians created for Russia consistently, rudely and unceremoniously from year to year. I am referring to the eastward … VIDEO President Putin’s Full Speech on Ukraine, NATO, Russia and the Donbass People’s Republics karlof1 | May 1 2022 18:55 utc | 77 Posted by: donten | May 1 2022 19:07 utc | 83 @donten 74 Posted by: Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 19:11 utc | 85 Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 18:24 utc | 68 Posted by: Milos | May 1 2022 19:14 utc | 86 Posted by: Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 17:40 utc | 57 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 1 2022 19:22 utc | 87 @ Eric Newhill | May 1 2022 17:43 utc | 59 Posted by: james | May 1 2022 19:26 utc | 88 Bemildred | May 1 2022 18:04 utc | 65 Posted by: Bemildred | May 1 2022 19:27 utc | 89 Posted by: Opport Knocks | May 1 2022 14:02 utc | 9 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 1 2022 19:27 utc | 90 It’s no longer even clear what Russia’s goals in the Ukraine are. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 1 2022 19:27 utc | 91 @ Vragtes | May 1 2022 17:42 utc | 58 Posted by: Arvy | May 1 2022 19:29 utc | 92 @ Antiwar Dinosaur | May 1 2022 17:40 utc | 57 Posted by: james | May 1 2022 19:29 utc | 93 Trump has recently been saying to thousands of people at his rallies that Russian SMO in Ukraine wouldn’t have happened under his watch. He is saying he would have negotiated with Putin. The lives lost and the millions of dollars wasted , thrown by corrupt congress at Zionist junta. It is quite clear that Biden and the Democrat party are deeply entwined with the corrupt junta. How much of those millions will make there way back to democrats? If House and Senate is retaken in November then it will be time to investigate and then impeach Biden and remove him from office. Kamala Harris token “black woman” should also be impeached. This would open the presidency to be chosen by the new Republican majority. They could choose a non member of Congress like Trump himself. Many people whine that “ it doesn’t matter what party is in control, blah, blah” Like hell it doesn’t. Posted by: Obamavirus | May 1 2022 19:31 utc | 94 @67 Posted by: ptb | May 1 2022 19:32 utc | 95 @70 circumspect | May 1 2022 18:29 utc Posted by: S.O. | May 1 2022 19:33 utc | 96 So far no evidence has been provided that NATO *heavy* weaponry has been delivered into the “right” hands and is in use on the battlefield. Drones and MANPADs are of course effective in their own way, but they aren’t “heavy” weapons. Russia has cut off most of the supply routes via land (Poland remains) and virtually all of them by sea. The talk about sending in heavy weapons is propaganda designed to butter the public up to support massive transfers of taxpayer ‘wealth’ to the weapons industry and MIC in general. It’s also designed to distract us from the Biden Crime Family’s deep ties to the Ukrainian oligarchy and the roots of this war. Elections are approaching. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 1 2022 19:35 utc | 97
Easy enough to find an English sub-titled version of Come and See on YouTube and other platforms. Posted by: Opport Knocks | May 1 2022 19:38 utc | 98 The “Powers That (should not) Be” have been greenscreening events for thirty years. Posted by: Chaka Khagan | May 1 2022 19:39 utc | 99 Many people whine that “ it doesn’t matter what party is in control, blah, blah” Like hell it doesn’t. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 1 2022 19:44 utc | 100 |
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