Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 14, 2022

If Ukraine Is Winning Why Is The U.S. Requesting A Ceasefire?

Yesterday the U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin called the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu.

Why?

The U.S. readout of the call says:

On May 13, Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III spoke with Russian Minister of Defense Sergey Shoygu for the first time since February 18. Secretary Austin urged an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and emphasized the importance of maintaining lines of communication.

Austin initiated the call and the U.S. is seeking a ceasefire in Ukraine!!!

Are we not told that the Ukraine is winning the war? That it will soon push the Russian forces back over the border? The operation to 'weaken Russia', which Austin had publicly announced two weeks ago, does not seem to go that well.

Told ya so!

Gonzalo Lira thinks that the call points to a soon coming collapse of the Ukrainian forces. Let us hope that this is indeed the case because it seems to be the only chance that the war will end soon.

The Ukraine is losing up to 15,000 men per month to the war. The total Ukrainian casualties, dead and wounded, are likely already at 50,000. The weapons the U.S. and others provide, are not sufficient to sustain the war. The Ukraine has only 3 days reserves of diesel and gasoline left. The main parts of its forces are immobile and are getting surrounded by Russian forces. Their situation is hopeless.

The Pentagon of course knows this all and that is why Austin initiated the call and asked for a ceasefire.

The Russia side will not agree to a ceasefire. At least not unless the 'west' offers to take back some of the 6,400 sanction measures it has initiated against Russia.

There are recently a number of other issues that also go in favor of Russia:

  • The economic outlook for Russia is good. It will have a record wheat harvest. Its internal measures to compensate for the results of sanctions are working. Counter sanctions Russia has now initiated against its enemies are starting to become effective.
  • Hungary has blocked European sanctions against Russian oil.
  • Turkey is slowing down if not prohibiting the entry of Kurd friendly Sweden and Norway into NATO.
  • The U.S. weapon deliveries to Ukraine will stop on May 19 unless Congress passes authority for new ones.
  • Senator Rand Paul has held up the required bill with the quite reasonable demand to have a inspector general scrutinize where the $40 billion 'for Ukraine' will be going. The Democrats will certainly dislike that.
  • U.S. gasoline prices have hit a record high.
  • European natural gas prices have also jumped after the Ukraine blocked the flow from Russia through one of the pipelines and while the flow through the Yamal pipeline in Poland has been stopped due to Russian counter sanctions.
  • Le Monde has verified and published a video that shows a Ukrainian 'volunteer battalion', led by a known criminal, torturing Russian prisoners of war.
  • Russia has published new material about the U.S. military biological 'research' in Ukraine. Other countries will also have questions about these activities.

The British Ministry of Defense claims that Russia lost a significant amount of material and men in an attempt to cross the Seversky Donets river. However the aerial pictures published by the Ukrainian Defense Ministry show that about half of the destroyed vehicles are BMP-1 with the original small one man turret and the stubby 73 mm gun. Russia is said to no longer have these. All its active service BMP-1 are said to have been upgraded and now have different turrets with 30 mm machine cannons with longer rifles. There must have been a larger battle over the crossing with probably both sides taking heavy losses. Moreover the fighting is now on the western side of the river. The Russian forces thus must have crossed the river in significant numbers.


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Posted by: CalDre | May 15 2022 7:41 utc | 282

A thoroughly meaningless statement when coming from a known whitewasher of nazism.

Posted by: Arganthonios | May 15 2022 8:09 utc | 301

imagine if russia set a goal of disbanding or breaking up the US, wouldn't that be amazing.

Posted by: annie | May 15 2022 8:19 utc | 302

@librul | May 14 2022 23:36 utc | 169

Same old trick. The Military Industrial Complex
and it's allied jellyfish need time to get all their
promised weapons to the front line.
No doubt this is the correct explanation for the ceasefire request.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 8:20 utc | 303

Latest Russian MoD briefing... Another slow day... At 100-200 Ukrainian deaths a day, this is going to take all damn summer and into fall...

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision air-based missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces have hit 2 command posts, 11 company strongpoints and 4 ammunition depots of AFU near Zaporozhye, Paraskovievka, Kostantinovka and Novomikhailovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

Operational-tactical and army aviation have hit 32 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration.

2 S-300 anti-aircraft missile launchers and 1 radar post near Shpilevka, Sumy Region, have been destroyed.

Missile troops and artillery have hit 6 command posts, 123 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, and 13 AFU artillery batteries at firing positions.

The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 150 nationalists and up to 26 armoured and motor vehicles.

Russian air defence mean overnight shot down 15 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Novotroitskoe, Vladimirovka, Petrovskoe, Luganskoe of the Donetsk People's Republic, Yepifanovka, Kudryashovka, Verkhnyaya Duvanka of the Lugansk People's Republic, Chkalovskoe, Velykie Prokhody, Vyshee Solenoe in Kharkov Region and over Snake Island.

In addition, 1 Tochka-U tactical missile was intercepted near Stepnoe, Kherson Region, and 11 Smerch multiple-launch rockets were intercepted near Kamenka, Malaya Kamyshevakha, Brazhkovka, Kharkov Region, and Chernobayevka, Kherson Region.

In total, 165 Ukrainian aircraft and 125 helicopters, 879 unmanned aerial vehicles, 306 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,098 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 381 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,525 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,934 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 8:21 utc | 304

@Anne B | May 14 2022 23:45 utc | 170

Norway has been a member of NATO since 4/4 1948. Finland is the country in question. Both borders Russia. Sweden has pretty much control over Østersund, the strait between the Baltic and the North sea. On the other side of the strait is Denmark, a NATO member since 1949.
You mean Øresund :-)

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 8:23 utc | 305

Posted by: Seer | May 14 2022 17:21 utc | 7

Watch this video if you think China locks down Shanghai for economic reasons ...

Shanghai Lockdown - BS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTLCrlweX4I

Posted by: ETA | May 15 2022 8:31 utc | 306

@Richard Steven Hack #297
They publish now more than one report daily and the average is around 500 for the past weeks. And it doesn't include any number for those wounded or taken prisoners, both can be rather large. Now among the prisoners were reported people in the age range 50-70

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 8:35 utc | 307

The British Ministry of Defense claims that Russia lost a significant amount of material and men

Didn't they say that they conquered Snake island, too.

ROTFL!

Posted by: Olivier | May 15 2022 8:39 utc | 308

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 14 2022 22:12 utc | 136
Posted by: malenkov | May 14 2022 22:26 utc | 147

I share both of yours suspicion to a degree bordering on outright mania =)

Azovstal was quite interesting from the start but it aroused the very greatest of level of Spider-Sense when Macron tried on that ludicrous “humanitarian” evac. ploy. I defy anyone to make up such a thing! .

Since then it has become an increasingly massive black hole for NATO+ credibility and a kind of imperfect, yet absolutely fascinating, miniature of Ukraine and the ongoing conflict.

It’s the one element of the entire conflict where the dirty schemers of NATO+ have absolutely failed - and, for high level westerners to have become trapped on the ground, it suggests RF knew from the outset that it might be possible to capture high value targets there and so acted to shut down means of escape and rapidly encircle the whole plant.

Hard to imaging RF quietly letting NATO+ dirtbags go free unless they get “all the marbles” in return.

Maybe that’s why it was such a long conversation =)

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 8:42 utc | 309

Even if one politician says something, it does not mean that it should be taken as token value of truth. As we all know, since 2015 "refugee crisis", EU gives no say for its member states of who they are subject to receive as "refugees". Finnish voters nor Finnish (EU-puppet) government had no influence over who was flowing trough its "intra-EU-borders" as EU and Germany machined the influx of "refugees" from "Syria" (In reality they were not many Syrians but mostly anyone willing, majority from Irak (including young fighters of ISIS) and pretty much whomever wanted to take part of that machined convoy anywhere from Africa to Northern Europe. Now Erdogan stating that it was up to Finns to decide whether Kurds entered to Finland as refugees, is domestic politics and total nonsense. I do not speak on behalf of Sweden, but Finns had no say on this game. Everyone knows that EU is to machine mass immigration from the middle east and Africa to any remains of whatever ethnically still cohesive areas there are within the EU. This is of course to suppress any voting base that would seek resistance against EU's ever-growing and totally undemocratic governance. As a Finn, I would hope Erdogan did really veto Finland's membership application to NATO. Finnish people have decades been totally anti-NATO to the magnitude of +70-80% against the membership. Its only recently that the younger social media brainwashed generations have learned its trendy to be pro-NATO. Still, if ordinary Finns were given a change to vote for NATO-membership, it had no prospects of succeeding. Whatever statistics Finnish pro-NATO stance are given in the media, is just total MSM bs. In reality, there would be no 51% majority, even the brainwashed kids included, that would vote for Finnish NATO membership. For this very reason, Finns are not given a vote for the matter, like we were not given vote for the Euro membership. I understand that for the haters of NATO, its easy to blame Finns "now seeking for membership", but I would encourage you to see the truth and analyse the situation objectively like you would do in any other situation. Erdogan is a leader of NATO country looking for payout from EU before "allowing" Finns to join NATO. He is not the hero here. Instead of cheering his lies about Finns harboring Kurds or terrorists, I encourage everyone to see the reality, in which EU has taken over the democratic powers in Finland, NATO Erdogan playing his game, and Finns, as nobody else in the EU, having no longer say on their own matters. Cheering such set-up, is not good for anyone. Both ordinary Finns as well as Russians would rather live in peace, that listen to Erdogan's crap.

Posted by: Tigger | May 15 2022 8:50 utc | 310

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 14 2022 22:39 utc | 153

Re German involvement is biolab devilry: these are projects under the respective militaries, wonder if von der Leyen’s signature is on any of it from when she was Germany’s Defense Minister.

That would give her zero lines of retreat and thus explain quite a lot.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 8:57 utc | 311

@karlof1 | May 15 2022 1:04 utc | 198

Many thanks for that translation of Lavrovs address to the Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defence Policy. It provided to me an improved insight into Lavrovs, and by extension the Russian understanding of things. It is clear that we are in the middle of a historic change. I think the Russians have the moral high ground and I support what they do. Clearly, they also have the political, military and economic high ground. For us in Europe it doesn't look good now, but maybe things are going so bad that a change in policy will force its way through the mist.

Jacob Dreizin made an interesting (if obvious) point that the Euro is falling relative to the USD because the Eurozone countries must pay for Russian gas with Rubles, so the demand for Euros is reduced. The EU was constructed around the Euro, so I hope this brings us closer to the day the EU is no more.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 9:21 utc | 312

@upstater | May 15 2022 1:18 utc | 210

Sweden and Finland joining NATO? Their national championship Ericsson and Nokia cannot survive competition with Huawei, ZTE, Xiomi, etc.
When I was a teenager, Nokia was known for rubber boots, they may have to focus on that again. /s

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 9:36 utc | 313

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 8:35 utc | 300

True, but the last two days have been slow. They were hitting 300-500 per report lately. I think they do one report a day plus a Top News of the Day which is just a recap of all their bulletins for the day. Maybe they do two sometimes.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 9:42 utc | 314

Subterranean Coronation of the Clueless

Stud Hamster and Gopher of Prairie-dog Town
imagined that showing two teeth and a frown
would terrify Russians from Putin on down
who’d quail at sight of their noses so brown
from sniffing the butt of Zelenski the clown
and NATO who promised them rodent renown
for dying in trenches with dirt for their crown.

Michael Murry, "The Misfortune Teller," Copyright © 2022

Posted by: Michael Murry | May 15 2022 9:44 utc | 315

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 8:35 utc | 300

You're right. I went back and checked and there were two reports for the 14th. I figured they weren't including captured, I wasn't sure about wounded. That latter alone would double the numbers at least.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 9:56 utc | 316

@Jason | May 15 2022 2:13 utc | 236

If Ukraine has only 3 days of oil left, Russia must destroy Ukraine's oil facilities ASAP. That will bring sense to Kiev.
Or else it will happen in ... 3 days? I don't suspect you are a russian strategist.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 10:03 utc | 317

Comment from https://t.me/polkovnik_hodarenok Telegram channel on the M777 howitzers in comparison to Russia artillery...

Ukraine claims (and even draws) that with US howitzers, the M777 is capable of hitting the M795E1 projectile for 30 km, while the Russian cannon artillery reaches only 18 km. It's a lie.

The APU received these guns, which is confirmed by the video, so far only M795 shells. The firing range of them from the M777 is from 22.5 to 24 km. The firing range of the RF Msta-B OFS towed howitzer is 24 km. Parity.

Both howitzers will hit 28-30 km with active-rocket projectiles. The speed of folding/deployment is approximately the same.

But Ukrainian propagandists are silent about the fact that the allied forces are successfully using the towed 152-mm howitzer guns 2A36, 2A36M "Hyacinth-B" and their self-propelled version 2S5 "Hyacinth-S". There are completely different ranges: 28.5 km OFS and 33.5 km AR OFS. That is, in fact, the superiority in range of the barreled artillery of the Russian Federation, and not the American M777.

In addition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have problems with ammunition for the M777 - they are completely dependent on supplies from abroad. There will also be difficulties with trained personnel and gun maintenance.

#M777

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 10:03 utc | 318

@Dale | May 15 2022 2:40 utc | 243

Thanks. The only thing to fear is fear itself.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 10:07 utc | 319

Video from Anna News Telegram channel...https://t.me/anna_news/31951 And this is the crowd that Ritter thinks is going to "reconstituted" into an "effective fighting force" with some Western weapons? I think not. And a million of them to boot? It's risible.

Militants of the 115th Terodefense Brigade complain about the command

Militants from the 115th Ukrainian Territorial Defense Brigade, called up from the Zhytomyr region, recorded a video about their situation in the temporarily occupied territory of the LPR. In it, they accuse the command of complete incompetence.

According to the militants, they were sent to the front without proper training. Due to the incompetence of the higher command, they suffered losses in personnel and equipment. The morale of the unit is low, it cannot perform combat missions.

Earlier, we reported (https://t.me/anna_news/31571) about a similar appeal by militants of the 101st Territorial Defense Brigade from the Transcarpathian region.
@anna_news

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 10:09 utc | 320

- Finland made an official decision to join NATO - government statement.
- Pentagon: US will help Finland and Sweden if they are attacked before joining NATO.

"help" :)))) Not interested anymore in Ukr war. In Finland or Sweden, where there are no civilians to protect, it will be nice to view unrestrained attacks. I'm hoping to see the Terminators used there

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 10:13 utc | 321

Description of the Snake Island operation from Colonel Cassad Telegram channel... Nice organized summary.

Battle for Serpent's Island May 7-8.

The idea of ​​the operation to capture Serpentine came to the Ukrainian authorities from London. His goal was to overshadow the celebration of Victory Day in Russia, the DPR and the LPR;

The assault on the island began on the evening of May 7 after a lengthy reconnaissance of Serpentine from Ukrainian UAVs;

With the onset of darkness, 3 Ukrainian Su-24 bombers with a covering Ukrainian Air Force Su-27 fighter, flying up to the island at extremely low altitudes, launched a bombing strike. The duty aviation forces of the Black Sea Fleet destroyed all enemy aircraft over the sea;

After the strike, the enemy sent the first landing troops to the island. The special forces units of the main intelligence department of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry on three landing assault boats of the Centaur project approached the Serpent, having managed to land 24 saboteurs. All Ukrainian boats were flooded, eliminating the possibility of evacuation. During the ensuing battle, the Russian military managed to push the enemy special forces to the coast and destroy

Kyiv made another attempt to storm. Under the cover of a Mi-24 helicopter, 3 Mi-8 transport-landing troops with special forces on board advanced to the island. In one of the Mi-8s there was the coordinator of the landing of units - the Deputy Commander of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for Aviation - Colonel Igor Bedzai;

The entire helicopter group, when approaching the island, was destroyed by Russian Aerospace Forces fighters. The pilots, the landing force and the coordinator of the operation were killed.

Another 6 helicopters for the landing of the second wave were in full readiness at a military airfield in the Odessa region. The airfield was hit by high-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which destroyed 6 Ukrainian Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters;

Within two days, aviation of the Black Sea Fleet and air defense systems destroyed 30 Ukrainian UAVs in the Zmeinoye area, including 9 attack "Bayraktar-TB2";

The action invented by the West led to the senseless death of more than 50 Ukrainian militants and servicemen of the elite units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the loss of 4 aircraft, 10 helicopters, 3 boats and 30 UAVs;

(c) https://t.me/zvezdanews

Footage with killed saboteurs on Zmein is here https://t.me/boris_rozhin/48625

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 10:14 utc | 322

@Surferket | May 15 2022 2:51 utc | 246

I'd suggest everyone get on Telegram where all the latest real news is found.
IntelSlava and Wargonzo are good. Along with the Russian official MOD channel
It is up to everyone to decide, but I definitely agree that Telegram is essential these days. I use it for communication with family as well as browsing those channels you mention and many others for news you do not get anywhere else. I have it installed under Android, IOS, Linux and Windows.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 10:15 utc | 323

Finland has made the official decision to join NATO. Parliament ratification will be Monday, supposedly.

Finland formally confirms intention to join Nato
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/15/finland-formally-confirms-intention-to-join-nato-russia

Ritter in that video yesterday reiterated his opinion that Russia will destroy Finland as a functioning state, just like Ukraine. Acceptance by NATO could take several months. My guess is Russia will wait until NATO forces appear in country. They're busy with Ukraine right now.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 10:21 utc | 324

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 10:03 utc | 311

The heavyweight ace up the sleeve of the Russian military is the 2S7M 203mm SP gun which has a range of 55km using Rocket Assisted Projectiles. Btw according to the 27S wiki page the maximum range of the regular 2S7 is 40 km so they do appear to outrange the US M777 by a significant margin.

UKR does have some 2S7s of its own but they seem to be the older legacy versions and don't appear to be the upgraded 2S7M version which has not only better specs and range but an improved rate of fire and targeting software.

Posted by: thermobarbaric | May 15 2022 10:23 utc | 325

@ct | May 15 2022 5:40 utc | 271

Didn't Russia also promise "military tech" solution if Finland joins NATO?
That is what I believe I heard. I have no explanation for the stupidity of Finland and Sweden.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 10:30 utc | 326

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What I can see is that the way these POWs are treated by dying empire will be noticed by all military, friend or foe. If these folks are sacrificed to the God of Mammon cult and an alternative emerges from the China/Russia axis, the military will clearly understand which way the wind is blowing....

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 15 2022 1:34 utc | 217

The rumours pretty consistently point to a real mix of embarrassingly pungent snuff-hustlers in the concrete latrine of Azovstal: mercs, intelligence creeps masquerading as mercs, straight up military intelligence officers, senior NATO+ officers of one sort or another, possibly other people involved truly grievous affronts to human life.

Unless the “west” can quietly get its people out of Azovstal, they’ll either be captured, killed, or lost to some form of infighting / white-trash martyrdom operation.

The exposure or death of all those grubby insiders would echo through the corridors of Empire Careerism.

Perhaps Austin’s interest is nothing more than a reflection of the fact that one of the DOD’s very own pig-eyed sacks of shit is down there, cheek-by-jowl with their mail-order nazi toy boys =)

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 10:33 utc | 327

@ Richard Steven Hack
Yes, Russia won't move a finger until there's info that no one vetoes them or military bases are being prepared by UK like in Ukraine (BoJo already signed a defence treaty with Finland last week). But until then I hope Putin cuts all exports and transit agreements, it would turn them into a poor country with no defense budget. And he already warned them he'll place troops at border and nuclear missiles on submarines in Baltic Sea. He warned them even 5-6 years ago, he said something like "Nato will fight Russia to the last of you. Do you want it?"

However, Croatia, Turkey and today even Italy have made statements about veto. I would be surprised if Hungary doesn't veto. So basically the president of Finland is destroying her country in a way never seen before, both economically and by military means. Even if they're rejected by nato, they are gone.

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 10:35 utc | 328

@Hausmeister | May 15 2022 7:43 utc | 283

As the Chinese are no idiots the only rational explanation of what they do is the assumption that this is a huge mass manoever training against an assument future attack with biological weapons.
I have been searching my brain for a rational explanation of what has been going on in China over the last 2 years and that includes the latest Shanghai event. It seems to me your interpretation must be correct, at least I have not been able to come up with any other rational explanation. The Chinese are certainly no idiots.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 10:45 utc | 329

Re: Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 10:21 utc | 317

I doubt Russia will "destroy" Finland, but I can certainly see Russian battalions being sent into occupy parts of South Karelia with the accompanying demand is serious security negotiations with Finland, NATO/US/UK/EU immediately - lest Finland choose to continue down the "Ukrainian" path of inviting a military confrontation with Russia.

That's an insane path to go down - but apparently Finland likes the look of what's happening in Ukraine at the moment and wants the same for Helsinki!!

A Russian occupation of part of South Karelia would certainly constitute a 'Military & Technical' mean would it not?

Posted by: Julian | May 15 2022 10:52 utc | 330

@xiao pignouf | May 15 2022 8:01 utc | 290

My apologies : Ukraine is capable of winning something... the Eurovision, as futile and crap as it is.
I have a personal anecdote related to this. Yesterday, at ~18:50 local time we lost power at home unexpectedly. I managed to contact the power line company and it turned out it was a falling tree that caused it and affecting 1100+ homes. Then power got restored around ~20:50 local time, and we received an SMS from the power line company, roughly translated to:

"Power has been restored in time for the Eurovision".

Huh?

I had no idea "Eurovision" was on yesterday and I haven't watched that crap in a decade or more (when it was called "Melodi Grand Prix"). Why was the "Eurovision" important? Of course, as you correctly point out, everyone must be able to see that Ukraine is capable of winning something, and it is the duty of even a local power line company in Norway to make sure that happens!

How deep we have fallen.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 11:04 utc | 331

Y'all here at MOA are gonna love this one
(Imagine Henry and Albright in coitus about the time she died or not long after. флюгегехаймен !!!)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b89jcNqgJo


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In the youtube clip comments section there is this one (which is how much truth/bullshit?) -


George James Ducas
1 hour ago
In 60 AD Apostle Saint Andrew traveled to the area of Kiev, preached, and said, one day a great city would be built here with many churches to the glory of God. Today there is a church to Saint Andrew in Kiev. The peoples in the area were Slavic. Kyi, Shchek and Khoryv, three brothers and the sister Lybid founded Kiev in 482 AD, Kiev was named after the older brother Kyi. Kiev the older brother was King. Herodotus wrote that Hercules had founded this land.

The Rus were Viking tribes that settled peacefully in Kiev as far back as 750 AD with the Slavs there, 400 years before Moskva existed. The name Russia, coming from the city Moskva, has no connection to the RUS. Russia coming from Moskva started with Batu Kahn much later as a vasal under Mongolian rule. All the early Czars were Mongolian and of no connection to the RUS. The Rus were with the Slavs to the south in Kiev. Moskva were Finnish Urgic Tribes; Mosk means cow and Va water, which are Finnish names. There was no RUS there. The ethnic background of Moskva is Finnish-Urgic and Mongolian. The Rus developed the religion, city Kiev, alphabet, churches, and had its saints. The founder of Kievian Rus (800) or the Rus was a Viking named Askold or Oskold (Norse) from Sweden; not Oleg as in the Russian story. Kievian Rus exists long Before Novgorod and Oleg’s arrival there. Askold is the Slavic name. Oskold, the first King of Kievian Rus was in Kiev before Oleg in Novgorod. Oskold had 200 ships and 20,000 warriors. Oskold was baptized in Constantinople (128 years before Volodymyr) and sent the first bishop back to Kiev. Oskold and Dir were the first Dynasty of Kievian Rus. Askold rules from the 40-60s and Dir to the 80s. Askold is buried in Kiev and the first Kievian Christian King & Dynasty. Oleg followed coming from Sweden through Novgorod and was a pagan. Russia as named today started in the city of Moskva over 400 years later after Kievian Rus or Rus. From Kiev, the capitol of Rus, Kievian culture was spread, much like the Greeks Hellenized the known world, or like the British anglicized the world by the English language. This process does not make Moskva to become RUS in as much as Persian are not Greek. How we are misled by a name; Russia. The capitol of the RUS has always been Kiev. There is no other RUS and no RUS in Moskva. Many say Ukraine began recently; but the culture of the RUS is Kievian RUS, both culture and ethnic background. Ukraine is a name given by Poland meaning outer lands. The land of the RUS before the Mongolian invasion was very large. The name RUS is a Norse name which means men that row; there are no men that row in Moskva. So Moskva adopted the name Russia while being a Mongolian vassal, essentially traitor to the RUS; and all the Czars were Mongolian-Finnish. The Culture of the Mongolian was centralized power, and that cultural imprint was passed on to present day Russia. Ukraine’s real name should be Kievian RUS, or Kievskarus! Russia began in Moskva by Batu Kahn and Novgorod conquered much later, still no connection to the Rus.

Putin & Lavrov should be ashamed of themselves, the USSR was an occupation; it never had the status of a sovereign state and due process of law that would be associated with a free society. Even today the mentality of the gulag exists. There is no freedom of press and speech, people are arrested for speech, there is no due process of law, and the religion is state run making it a totalitarian theocracy. As such, it did not deserve to exist in a free world; and history has shown such totalitarian organizations fail over time and author in many gulags. The true culture of Russia is Finno-Ugric and Mongolian, having nothing to do with the RUS (Kievian), expect borrowed as in the sense of Hellenized or Anglicized "forms" as a comparative reference. The centralized form of Russian politics is a very Mongolian imprint on culture. The actions of Putin seem to be another Mongolian invasion of Kiev; here I suggest as to the correct metaphor. I believe so. Putin & Lavrov insistence to have purview over eastern Europe also seems like paying tribute to the Mongolian Horde. Moskva started as an agglomeration of Finnish tribes, combining a Finnish name meaning cows water and developed by Mongolian culture. Mosk means cow and Va means water. The RUS are men that row, Vikings, Norse, established Kiev 400 years before (750 AD) Moskva even thought to exist. The name Russia for current nation is totally inappropriate. The current Russia started in Moskva; how misleading is the name Russia coming from Moskva that has no connection to the RUS. All the lands should be returned to Kiev; the West of Russia to Finland, and the East to Mongolia. Russia’s place on the globe appears as a temporary aberration in my view. To use threats of Nukes publicly strikes at the heart as adolescent behaviour; surely any nation or person that issues such threats and being an ally to such while not even having war imposed on them is not fit to rule. This would include allies of Russia. Oh yes, I remember, Russia didn't invent the bomb, they stole it in the 1940's and gave it to Kurchatov. Russia struggles with an identity crisis since its beginnings unoriginal to the ethnic groups. Its errors are numerous, 50 million killed by Stalin in WW2, allied to the Nazis to kill the Poles for their defeat in WW2, Holodomor where millions of Ukrainians were killed and grain stolen, and constant antagonist with Europe. We even have the Holy Mother announcing Russia’s errors at Fatima. Russia is a Mongolian culture and all the first Czars were Mongolian and Batu Kahn is the author.

Oskold was the grandson of Ragnar the king of Sweden, his name is old Norse and spoke old Norse, the name Rus is old Norse, he settled peacefully in Kiev and the Slavs made him king, he brought Christianity to Kiev with his son dir...his burial mound is where St Nicholas church is built, Oleg wasn’t even in Novgorod when this happened, and Oleg is not a Rus nor old Norse name. The Slavs called Oskold the name Askold. After came Dir, Oleg was a pagan who assassinated Dir, Oskold becomes the first dynasty...later when the line of kings get to Vladimir, he is captured at a trading post by the Mongols, the post is called Moskva, and the king killed. Moskva as a city was a Mongolian invention, and Novgorod becomes a part of that Russia by conquest, although having nothing to do with the Rus. Oskold line is Ragnar, ironside, Oskold from the King of Sweden Ragnar. Oleg is via Rurik coming much later. The accounts of Oskold are within the time, Al Mamun an Arab writer of the time wrote of Oskold, the Russian chronicles come hundreds of years later. In much the same way accounts of relevant history are better understood by those of the times, much like the Bible, dating to the original times makes the account authentic. The Russian chronicles are merely a tale and inaccurate.

Kiev was a city over 1000 years before Russia even existed. Kiev was Kievian Rus before Novgorod and when Oleg arrived. Putin is kidding himself if he thinks any part of Ukraine belongs to Russia. We can see that Israel belongs to the Jews, similarly all the lands around Kiev of Kievian Rus belong to Kiev as a single nation and city state. Russia's beginnings are a wanting child begun as a captive insurgency having nothing of its own; a captive state that was reeking in servitude to Mongolia and invented by Mongolia. The entire culture of Russia from Moscow is Mongolian centralized power, a pagan culture of no empathy and Christianity. The Christianity is tainted as a state religion or theocracy and politicized. History is often obscured by being written by the ones in charge. The history of Ukraine has been obscured by the Soviet Occupation and cultural appropriations. Moscow in an attempt to appropriate a history not its own, rewrote the narrative of history to cover up its compromised origins; Kiev and Ukraine is a history much older and more civilized; making contributions to civilization. Russian despotism becomes the blueprint, foundation & model for every despot nation, look at its allies; the error of its ways has spread throughout the globe; much like the message from the Holy Mother at Fatima. Those that are sympathetic to Russian atrocities can find similarities in their own histories. Ukraine has a democracy at a local level Moscow never had and fears. Russian boundless ignorance is a type often found in the poorest of nations, and usually the poorest have a history of the hardest tyrants over them that also inflict poverty, physical and spiritual, on others they attempt to subjugate, a reflection of their own lives, an abomination of desolation.

Askold was in Constantinople in 860 and Oleg arrived in Novgorod not until 862. The Arabs referred to Askold as the Slavic King or King of the Slavs which he had been for a while. Pontius says Askold brings Christianity to Kiev from Constantinople and a bishop. Ragnar the Norse King of Sweden was born in 767 AD, his son Bjorn ironside was born in 796 AD, and grandson Oskold (Askold) was born in 820 AD. Askold arrived in Kiev in 840 and had a son Dir, Both become King and the first Christian dynasty. Askold dies and gets a burial mound in a park in Kiev. Dir follows as King. Dir is assassinated by Oleg who is a pagan. Nobody knows who Rurik is or who the father is . Oleg is a generation away from Askold. Olga of Kiev builds a church on Askold’ s burial grounds. Pontius of Constantinople says Askold brings a Bishop and Christianity to Kiev. Russia much later is a Mongolian invention.......

Posted by: tucenz | May 15 2022 11:05 utc | 332

Regions near St Pete will be first to go boom. How far? We'll see soon if there's no veto, which means all nato countries want to be involved in a vote that will 100% involve them in a distant war. There is absolutely no way Russia will accept missiles or bases in Finland after they've said nato should no expand to East.
The only way Finland, and maybe Sweden too, can survive the next years is to be rejected by nato. Even so, if bases, missiles or biolabs appear like in Ukraine, they'll be turned into an warzone and Russia will keep them as warzones for as long as possible just to destroy EU .

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 11:06 utc | 333

... I'm hoping to see the Terminators used there

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 10:13 utc | 314

That is so wrong =)

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 11:06 utc | 334

Posted by: Surferket | May 15 2022 0:57 utc | 192

Thanks for your postings. American elites care about nothing except next quarter's profits for our new Pharaohs, the billionaires. With Covid, we're now making bricks without straw. Those who live ten years (no easy feat for an old man in today's 'Murca) will see how Covid's damage extends far beyond the officially counted dead. Even asymptomatic cases damage organs like the brain and kidneys and lead to lovely chronic conditions like Type II diabetes. All good for American drug companies that invent nothing but palliatives for chronic conditions, some of which are induced by other drugs they sell.

I also suspect that in the back of the Chinese leadership's mind is the old mandate of heaven. That would surely be lost with "let 'er rip." On top of that, their very large investment in infrastructure to battle Covid is justified by their belief that they were the targets of a biological attack by the USA. This infrastructure can be used to protect against future attacks.

On the topic of the original post, that's a great list, b, and I would add the rouble's astonishing performance since the initiation of the SMO and the roubles for oil policy.

https://news.yahoo.com/russias-ruble-worlds-top-performing-195853489.html.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | May 15 2022 11:09 utc | 335

Posted by: karlof1 | May 15 2022 1:04 utc | 198

Thanks, karlof1. It's long, but very helpful. I liked the bit about restructuring the diplomatic officials out of defunct relationships into more positive roles for the country. The US would benefit, will benefit, once us oldies shift into that mode. That's a reality reset.

Posted by: juliania | May 15 2022 11:16 utc | 336

@Tigger | May 15 2022 8:50 utc | 303

Instead of cheering his lies about Finns harboring Kurds or terrorists, I encourage everyone to see the reality, in which EU has taken over the democratic powers in Finland, NATO Erdogan playing his game, and Finns, as nobody else in the EU, having no longer say on their own matters. Cheering such set-up, is not good for anyone. Both ordinary Finns as well as Russians would rather live in peace, that listen to Erdogan's crap.
Thank you for summing up the tragic situation regarding Finland and NATO so well. The Norwegian NATO puppet Jens Stoltenberg is to blame, as well as his masters in Washington.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 11:18 utc | 337

nato is about to end :)) quote from Sputnik

Britain called for the creation of a "global NATO", which will allow monitoring the "security" in the Indo-Pacific region.
"While protecting Euro-Atlantic security, we also need to pay attention to security in the Indo—Pacific region," Liz Truss said.

Posted by: rk | May 15 2022 11:26 utc | 338

... The Norwegian NATO puppet Jens Stoltenberg is to blame, as well as his masters in Washington.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 11:18 utc | 330

Stoltenberg no, western legal tradition does not hold the mentally incompetent responsible for their actions; well, maybe Texas.

There is definitely something wrong with Stoltenberg, he can’t be too far away from needing to be shown where the toilet is every time.

Has he had a bad stroke or is he suffering some form of neuro-degeneration?

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 11:31 utc | 339

@Dodrey Dougherton

There is no hope of sanity. It's not possible to even mention the neocons anymore, let alone tell what they are, ethnocentric Jewish nationalists who use the US like a golem for Israel and who exhibit an array of toxic cluster B personality disorders. They will not tolerate anything but total control at any cost because to them they're playing with somebody else's country all the time, it's all a free bet to them.

If you can't name the problem, their agenda and who they are, then how can you fight it? It's like fighting air.

Posted by: Altai | May 15 2022 11:33 utc | 340

@anon2020 | May 15 2022 11:31 utc | 332

There is definitely something wrong with Stoltenberg, he can’t be too far away from needing to be shown where the toilet is every time.

Has he had a bad stroke or is he suffering some form of neuro-degeneration?

He has been compromised for a very long time, I personally remember his crazy New Year speech in 2007 as PM where he introduced the "Norwegian Moon Landing Project", i.e. the intentionally impossible task of pumping CO2 into the ground for no reason whatsoever. Clearly, "climate science" and the NATO aggressors are well aligned. But if you are looking for a specific event, then IMNHO 22. July 2011 is the day his contract was signed and why he is chief NATO puppet now.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 11:41 utc | 341

Stoltenberg no, western legal tradition does not hold the mentally incompetent responsible for their actions

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 11:31 utc | 332

There's a story about Stoltenberg saying he got all sweaty and nervous when he saw a fraction in school.

And Norway installed him as head of their central bank, that is, their national chief of fractional banking (the SMO prevented it from happening.)

But it's the same all over Europe. Nitwits in power in every country. Germany is probably the worst.

Posted by: Sarmat | May 15 2022 11:49 utc | 342

I have been living in Shanghai for many years now and I am in the midst of the lockdown. What many analysts (and concern trolls) don't seem to understand regarding the central government's decision on covid is this:

Old people play an important role in Chinese society, even more than its overseas Chinese counterparts.

A majority of Chinese households consist of grandparents, parents and their children. Grandparents take care of their children while parents head out to work. They pick up their grandchildren from school and keep them company until the parents come home. For migrant workers, their children are left behind in their home towns to be raised by the grandparents. They see their children once every few months, or once a year during the Lunar New year. A few of my employees from small towns and villages are raised in this kind of household.

Let's say China decides to let covid run rampant, cases would soar quickly in the urban elderly population on account of the inter-generational living situations. It will spread to small towns and rural villages via highly mobile migrant workers, who are themselves healthy but will unknowingly pass it on to their elders. It is more than possible that the death rate will be much higher especially in rural areas where medical services can be lacking. Sometimes I go to remote areas for holidays and I definitely do not want to get sick in those places.

Knowing that covid affects the old generations much more severely than the younger generations, it has become an imperative to protect this class of citizens, because if they die en masse, there will be a social upheaval like never seen before since the cultural revolution. In a country of 1.4 billion people, a 0.01% death rate is not a small number.

Grandparents are the backbone of Mainland Chinese society, who already possesses a strong culture of filial piety which is not often observed in western cultures. Deaths of elders matter as much as deaths of young children. Couple that with their indirect contribution to the workforce (by taking care of the grandchildren), the central government would rather sacrifice a % of gdp than enable a massive social upheaval.

Posted by: bonks | May 15 2022 12:02 utc | 343

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 11:41 utc | 340

Thanks for the insight, I was wondering about Stoltenberg’s literal state of physical and neurological health.

His movements and skin tone are very strange and not at all consistent with a reasonable state of health, some of his fleeting facial expressions are almost infantile, his face might even display a little stroke-induced asymmetry.

I recommend watching him more closely from this perspective.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 12:10 utc | 344

Does anyone really believe that Austin could get a ruse like this by Putin ?

Posted by: Dale | May 14 2022 23:56 utc | 181

Nor do I believe an immediate ceasefire is what they spent an hour talking about.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 15 2022 12:11 utc | 345

Posted by: Surferket | May 14 2022 23:59 utc | 183

That's why I rarely watch such videos.
1. You don't know if they have been doctored.
2. You don't know what you are seeing half the time.
3. You often don't know the localtion and/or which side's equipment or corpses you are watching
4. You don't know the military or other sugnificance

I didn't follow the pontoon kerfuffle at all and seems that was time well saved.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 15 2022 12:17 utc | 346

My guess is as good as yours as to why the U.S wants a ceasefire. I go for them being up sh*t creek without a paddle, with their manufacturing capacity severely compromised, their weapons stock depleted, as well as being unfit for purpose, i.e. of junk quality and value. The Avostal bunker contents remain in the 'fog of war' category and is pointless to elaborate for the time being. --- Re: SC/RT; I set my VPN to India, no issues at all receiving either site, using Yandex browser. My default browser is Brave. When I need to search a subject I get a "confirm your not a robot, drag the slider" request, which doesn't work. So I am affectively blocked from using Brave as a search engine. Fortunately, I have a truckload of bookmarks so I have no problems reaching MOA, Saker, SouthFront, and others.

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Posted by: A. Scheklegrabber | May 15 2022 12:23 utc | 347

Posted by: Atiya | May 15 2022 6:06 utc | 274

Thank you for your amendments. Also omitted were the following:

Euromaidan as a US-instigated coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine - 2014
US, UK, and Canadian military assistance and arming of the Ukrainian military 2014 to 2022
US, UK and Canadian military presence on the Line of Contact and therefore complicity in the Ukrainian shelling of a civilian population a violation of the Law of Armed Conflict.(The RF reported locating evidence of NATO involvement in the planning of the pre-empted March 2022 attack. If true this constitutes a further violation of the Law of Armed Conflict)

Two key points which I believe informed the RF decision to launch the SMO are:

1) the Ukraine intent to revise the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances
(see paragraph 31 of elensky’s full speech of February 19, 2022:
https://kyivindependent.com/national/zelenskys-full-speech-at-munich-security-conference/
It is noted that in 1992 Ukraine sought to retain some number of modern Ukrainian built RT-23 (SS-24) missiles and associated Soviet built warheads. It is unknown if the RF performed an accurate count of warheads returned to RF control.)

and

2) the February 24 2022 shipment via two Airbus freighters of Bayraktar TB2 drones reportedly fitted with mechanisms permitting the dispersal of aerosols.

I suspect the RF had knowledge of the US supported bio-warefare activities (This was made known in 2018 by Bulgarian journalist Dilyana Gaytandzhieva. See:
https://dilyana.bg/bulgarian-journalist-confronts-robert-kadlec-over-the-us-secret-bio-weapons/ )

The Bayraktar TB2 dispersal mechanism had the potential to deliver biological pathogens. It also had the potential to delivery radioactive materials as a form of "dirty bomb."

I followed the Bayraktar TB2 shipment which was reported in real time on MoA by the posting of the Flight Radar tracks. Within an hour of the shipment's arrival posts on MoA reported the first instances of military action followed by border incidents and the fact of the RF invasion. I suspect this was an historic global first - a blog delivering real time reporting of a major military conflict; I was up until 0400 that night. Unfortunately persons unknown created duplicate MoA aliases, the real poster complained, and b deleted all of the associated posts, some 60 of them.

My original post was intended to illustrate my belief that the reported March 2022 attack (supported by the OSCE reporting of increased shelling typical to an attack) was undertaken to bolster Biden's foreign policy credentials after the disaster of the Afghanistan withdrawal. I suspect coming events in the Ukraine will prove an even greater embarrassment to the Biden administration coupled with the full effect of increased inflation and the transfer of some $46 billion to Ukraine ($30b plus $13.6b
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/18/upshot/ukraine-aid-details.html )
while the average American experiences food and fuel shortages.

Posted by: Sushi | May 15 2022 12:30 utc | 348

Posted by: bonks | May 15 2022 12:02 utc | 344

RE: Importance of grandparents and family:

Thank you, that is an excellent point. I can remember when it was like that here in USA, but it has been a few decades now. Now you will lose social status here for living with your parents, and they will too, for having you.

Posted by: Bemildred | May 15 2022 12:32 utc | 349

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 15 2022 2:28 utc | 249

Until now, I have thought that a narrator is an orator under the influence of narcotics.

A narrator is a device which permits playing a piano as if by a penis.

Posted by: Sushi | May 15 2022 12:37 utc | 350

... But it's the same all over Europe. Nitwits in power in every country. Germany is probably the worst.

Posted by: Sarmat | May 15 2022 11:49 utc | 343

Absolutely, it is a terrible prison of unsuitable decision-makers, an almost inescapable cancellation of democracy’s franchise, with the same or even worse waiting to take over if one of them should fall.

I think Power Capital wanted a political and media class who would go along with almost anything and what we now see, in Europe and elsewhere, is the success of their cultivation efforts.

The proxies and protégés, snitches and capos, of the globalist world order.

Posted by: anon2020 | May 15 2022 12:38 utc | 351

There are many other more important things to talk about thus "ceasefire" seems like nothing but cover. Reminds me of the Biden and Putin meeting.

So yes I agree that perhaps the US has caught on to planned use of nuclear weapons from outside their chain of command, it is certainly a possibility. Or similar levels of aggression. Or they're simply trying to play innocent (lol).

Another possibility is that someone in the US finally got through to the idiots about how all those treaties they have broken and abandoned were in fact important for US security. They were all hard-won mutual victories, now thrown away. One can only wonder how many nonpublic agreements have also been squandered.

Speculating much further; maybe the US has finally lost access to that whatever-the-hell-it-is in Russia? I'm all ears for anyone who has anything on that (but I'll likely miss it since I don't read much any more).

- - - -

A more general observation:
Western decision-makers seem to be lagging behind on the blindingly obvious by about five months. That's a lot of time and impossible to make up for.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 15 2022 12:55 utc | 352

And the "ping" theory is far too optimistic for me :)

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 15 2022 12:56 utc | 353

Re this COVID thing. I think its instructive to see what has happened here in the Africa. Minimal lockdowns, less than 3% vaccination (or less I would wager) We abandoned restrictions since 2nd quarter 2021 and yet...no mass fatalities. Either this disease is gene discerning but we have largely escaped it unscathed. More people died from Malaria as ever during the lockdown than any other ailment. Didnt stop our politicians from milking the crisis however, but there you go. No such thing as an honest politician anyway.

Posted by: DaVinci | May 15 2022 12:58 utc | 354

Richard Steven Hack | May 15 2022 1:23 utc | 221

S1-Pantsair.

Don't be too concerned about those. The Russian army doesn't use them to defend moving troops. (pants is designed to deploy first then shoot)

The thing the media would be reporting on (if it understood what it was talking about) is TOR. (9k332 etc)

Basically Tor = moving army, pants = static airforce base. What you'll probably have noticed with a lot of the media back and fro is that almost no one has talked about about the tor's at all.

Posted by: S.O. | May 15 2022 13:07 utc | 355

Posted by: karlof1 | May 15 2022 1:10 utc | 209

Thank you for those posts with the machine translations.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 15 2022 13:09 utc | 356

any death virus plan by the West...

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 15 2022 4:11 utc | 261

But But But: everyone (Inc Unz) keeps forgetting that 'China' and 'America' have been funding and working together on this stuff, not to mention spying as well. USD are still going into Wuhan.

There seem to be Globalist networks operating outside and above nation state jurisdictions. And that is the UN law order that Russia is proposing, China too. Multipolarity might end up being the infamous One World Order.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 15 2022 13:15 utc | 357

Why is it we can be critical and dismissive of western media when it comes to their Ukraine war narratives but accept without question the equally ridiculous covid narratives?

Surely, it is apparent to all and sundry that the the world is at war. The Ukraine trap has been planned by the US Praetorian Guard for years. The US led financial system is a ponzi scheme reliant on US Dollar Hegemony and regular pillaging of foreign countries. Russia is the motherland that if successful would permit the empire to rule China and keep this Financial Circus rolling for another 30 years.

Do any of us really believe that China is naive to this? Shanghai is the most western influenced City in China. If there were to be any kind of unrest in mainland China it would occur in Shanghai. It just so happens to also be the largest shipping port in the entire world. So, by locking down Shanghai, China further disrupts global supply chains - which just so happen to be precisely the kind of thing that would add inflationary pressure on a western financial system that is under real inflationary pressure.

Sure, maybe China is locking down Shanghai because COVID might kill a few old people each week
Maybe China is not in the least bit concerned that the war in the Ukraine and the sanctions against Russia are of any significance to them. Maybe they aren't trying to help Russia fight this economic war. Maybe their number one priority is that no one that is either too fat or too old unnecessariy dies

Posted by: yebiga | May 15 2022 13:16 utc | 358

DaVinci | May 15 2022 12:58 utc | 355
It can well be that if one has digested Malaria infectations one is quite immune against CoV-2-virusses. Some villages at the southern edge of the Po valley in Northern Italy, once notorious for Malaria, had an unusual outstandingly good performance versus Covid-19 illness in 2020.

Posted by: Hausmeister | May 15 2022 13:19 utc | 359

And that is the UN law order that Russia is proposing, China too. Multipolarity might end up being the infamous One World Order.

no both are proposing an international order that is not dominated by the us, and that follows its own rules consistently.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 15 2022 13:20 utc | 360

@ Tucenz 333
Your historic view on Russia past is highly interesting. Regarding your suggestion that current Russia be split between Ukraine (why not Sweden ?), Finland and Mongolia, perhaps it may be complemented several others:
- North America back to so-called American-natives,
-Australie back to local natives (aborigènes in French)
-NZ back to local natives (Māoris)
A really great reset…

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2022 13:23 utc | 361

clearly norwegian you are still pushing the bullshit about climate science, no matter how little evidence you have that it is not good science. in your narrative, along of all the groups of giant corporations, the oil companies are somehow bereft of influence on policymakers, helpless before the onslaught of the vast majority of scientists who actually study the issue, of all nations and ideologies. and somehow unable to produce any studies refuting the scientific consensus, which you are, i predict, going to pretend is a kind of beauty contest and not the result of a vast and ongoing effort to study climate and how and why it changes, suppported by data from other fields, and with no competing hypothesis. and then you will quote some goddamned economist like Tol, or some ancient right wing physicists still fighting the cold war--i bet every one of them supports the empire proxy war against Russia.

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 15 2022 13:27 utc | 362

They had a Cease-Fire it was called Minsk II

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 15 2022 13:30 utc | 363

@ various re Eurovision:

I’m sure the Ukraine would have won even if it had sent Florence Foster Jenkins. Or nobody at all.

@ the commenter who suggested destroying NATO HQ:

But that would deprive the planet of its largest Schutzstaffel emblem (and a double one at that). Certainly we can’t have that.

Posted by: malenkov | May 15 2022 13:33 utc | 364

rk [339]

Britain called for the creation of a "global NATO",

NO Britain did not.
Elizabeth Mary Truss made this stupid statement. She is 47 years old and probably going through a difficult phase in life not fully in control of her emotions. She is certainly irritating many people - including I read Johnson. She is trying to impress Washington and Lindsay Graham and his like in the hope she can replace Johnson.

She is the owner of empty accommodation between her left and her right ear and is known as "an empty vessel". In English the saying is "Empty barrels make the most noise"

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | May 15 2022 13:35 utc | 365

Posted by: robin | May 15 2022 8:01 utc | 297

Robin - I think we are contemplating two different characterizations of the same set of events.

My characterization is that the US retains hegemony in a uni-polar world. This characterization is substantiated by the following metrics: GDP, % of total global energy consumption,
At $22.9 trillion, the U.S. GDP $22.9 trillion (2020 IMF figures) roughly 25% of the world economy,
At 604 quadrillion Btu the US consumes 17% of the total world primary energy consumption (2019 data). The United States' percentage share of world population was about 4% in 2019.
In 2021, total U.S. primary energy consumption per capita was about 293 million British thermal units (MMBtu) vs world average per capita consumption of primary energy of about 78 MMBtu. (2019)
US per capita income for 2019 of $66,000 (PPP basis) vs RF $28,260 RF and China $16,730. There is significant skew in this figure.
US defense spending of $778 billion p.a. more than the next 11 countries combined. See: https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2021/07/the-united-states-spends-more-on-defense-than-the-next-11-countries-combined

Your characterization is that the US acknowledges that it is in decline and seeks to maintain its primacy. I can agree with your characterisation but the US shows no sign of any rational acceptance of increased multi-polarity. The opposite is the case - the US views its decline as reason to seek the destabilization / undermining of any near peer competitor. It seeks to act now as it may be too weak to act later.

I would argue that the US is already weaker than its near peer competitors. Its 800 military bases are a liability not a strength as recognized by Frederick the Great: “He who defends everything, defends nothing." Its military technology lags that of China and the RF, its economic position is dependent on financialization not productivity (China) or core commodities (RF), or knowledge creation (In 2019 China filed 1.4 million patents, or 43.4 percent of the world's total patent applications that year as reported by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO).

The real issue is the US can no longer compete on an equal footing and therefore resorts to inferior and immoral tactics - "We lie, we cheat, we steal, and we maintain training programs in how to do this" Secretary of State Pompeo, a product of West Point who graduated first in his class.

You raise a key point which we both agree on. There are relationships which are win - win and which deliver equal benefit to both parties. And there are relationships in which my benefit is your loss. The US / Ukraine relationship is of the latter kind. The Ukrainian state and people will suffer all the losses while the US seeks to benefit from a weakened RF. The EU states and their peoples will suffer from disrupted food and energy supplies while the US reaps handsome profits. The US is engaged not in co-operative benefit but straightforward predation. It can only achieve this outcome due to hegemony in the uni-polar world of today. The smaller nations of the world experience and observe this fact. Ultimately the Lilliputians will tie down Gulliver.

Cheers!

Posted by: Sushi | May 15 2022 13:53 utc | 366

Posted by: Hausmeister | May 15 2022 13:19 utc | 360

I think you may be onto something there. Remember at the outset of COVID many doctors were claiming that they could treat it with HCQ with is related I am told to Chloroquine which has been used to fight malaria for decades. African people have a lot of these antibodies from prolonged malaria regimen. Still i believe it was Trump who caught the worst strain of COVID. They got him good and proper with it

Posted by: DaVinci | May 15 2022 14:09 utc | 367

DaVinci | May 15 2022 14:09 utc | 368
"I think you may be onto something there."
Thanks for the compliment but: no! Nothing new at all. Known end of March 2020. Then they started to discredit it by known and surfaced scientific fraud. The first highlight of it appeared in Lancet. A really criminal thing of fraud that costed many lives. Just for obtaining a cheating result that HCQ does not work.
A safe healthy immune system does not need antibodies against CoV-2 virusses at all.

Posted by: Hausmeister | May 15 2022 14:35 utc | 368

Posted by: Sushi | May 15 2022 13:53 utc | 367

Your characterization is that the US acknowledges that it is in decline and seeks to maintain its primacy. I can agree with your characterisation but the US shows no sign of any rational acceptance of increased multi-polarity. The opposite is the case - the US views its decline as reason to seek the destabilization / undermining of any near peer competitor. It seeks to act now as it may be too weak to act later.

Yes. My point exactly. Honestly.

I would hate to bore the other folks with the back and forth. Let's just agree that we agree and leave it at that. Ha ha. Disagree that we disagree?
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And there are relationships in which my benefit is your loss.
Yes, certainly. The result of an asymmetrical relationship where the dominant party appropriates a disproportionate share of the cake at the expense of the 99%. The entire US / Latin America relation comes to mind

I would say that what we are seeing is a variant by which "your loss is my benefit". It's not the same thing as it suggests an intent to undermine.

Posted by: robin | May 15 2022 14:44 utc | 369

@sushi 367
Comparison based on monetary value is often misleading, in my understanding.
Indeed all gross values in the US are inflated by the amount of currency issued. They also reflect value of waste, such as for energy used.
If you use relative purchasing power, comparisons will tell more. US primacy becomes less obvious as well. In particular for military budgets.

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2022 14:50 utc | 370

@Hausmaster 360 and da Vinci 368
Regarding COVID 19 remaining benign in most of Africa , indeed use of anti malarial drug such as Chloroquine explains much, but also Ivermectine used to avoid an other infectious agent. As most people use one or the other, orbotht, they were highly protected. Both drugs seem to remain active whatever COVID virus strain.
Also, governments and populations were not attracted by the vax, which prevented them from all vax adverse effects and fact that vax seems to facilitate infection by latest strains.
By the same token, due to neurological effects of COVID and more those from the Arn vax, one can wonder whether high rate of vaccination is one factor explaining the lack of capacity to think properly which characterized many within Western government circles

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2022 15:07 utc | 371

You leave out some info, like the fact that the US have regularly called the Russians, but it was the Russians who chose to answer this time. So you could just as easily ask, why did Shoigu answer this time?

Posted by: Sm | May 15 2022 15:16 utc | 372

Regarding COVID 19 remaining benign in most of Africa , indeed use of anti malarial drug such as Chloroquine explains much

Posted by: Daniel

I don't think so. Chloroquine is used to prevent from catching malaria by people who don't go to countries with malaria for a long stay, like tourists or soldiers, since this medication is advised not to be taken more than 3 months at the risk of liver damage. Local people have to use mechanical ways to protect themselves from malaria, like mosquito nets for instance. I went to Africa for 2 months and I took some Nivaquine, but my friends residing there didn't. There is no way African people use chloroquine as a treatment in a way that will be significant to avoid to be infected by covid 19.

Sorry to be off topic.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | May 15 2022 15:30 utc | 373

After verification, I take back what I said before. My knowledge on the topic is superficial and irrelevant. Sorry.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | May 15 2022 15:44 utc | 374

Could we consider ukraine a democracy?
You could check political strutture but It may not be enough
I guess when a country has a party linked to violent extremists,the answer should be assessed. It depends on how much that party weighs in the political environment.

Posted by: Mry | May 15 2022 16:08 utc | 375

@tucenz 333:

TL;DR. Paragraphs are your friend, my friend.

Cheers to the barflies

Billy

Posted by: Billy the Texas Red | May 15 2022 16:16 utc | 376

Thanks to Norwegian, juliania and Scorpion for acknowledging they read those important transcripts, and for the feedback provided. It helps to have a "conversation" with the main points because that's what Russia's policy is built around. If you don't read what Putin or Lavrov have to say then you won't know Russia's goal is to end the Outlaw US Empire's disastrous, ruinous Unipolar reign and make it conform to international norms that were agreed upon 77 years ago. And at the Big Picture Level, that's what's happening--the 7/8ths of the Law-abiding World aims to force--since it won't do so willingly--the 1/8th of the world led by the Outlaw US Empire back into subservience to International Law so the vast majority of humanity can develop while putting a stop to the expropriation and exploitation of the Neocolonialism waged by that 1/8th. And if you didn't read the Russia/China 4 February Joint Declaration, you wouldn't know that China is 100% behind Russia, that their aims are shared; and that's the main problem with Europeans, they are ignorant of all that because of EU-wide censorship and propaganda, with very few exceptions.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 15 2022 16:33 utc | 377

Surferket @188 & 207

Yeah, it seems such a foreign concept for some people in Western that the top priority of a socialist government is to take care of its citizens as human being rather than simply as "working cattles" and "consumers". Guess social Darwinism runs deep in Anglo-Saxon sphere.

The criteria to judge a government is not simply whether you can vote or not rather how competently the government governs.

Here I'd strongly recommend The Chinese way of meritocracy by Prof. Zhang Weiwei, who used to be interpreter for Deng Xiaoping. Also very insightful Munk Dialogues - Zhang Weiwei.


@MarkU, @Helmuth von Moltke @281

Looking at Covid Deaths in Uk, you can see in UK over 1000 and 1300 Britons died every day at the peaking time in April, 2020 and Jan 2021 respectively, and about 200 - 300 Britons died between Jan - April, 2022 and currently down to over 100 deaths per day. Of course, it's only nyatur you feel the situation has dramatically improved .

By comparison, China only had 4 covid deaths between April 17, 2020 and end of 2021, as mentioned in my post @173.

We are shocked to see between 30 to 50 people died in Shanghai at its peak time, (thanks god now it downs to one death on May 13th and 3 deaths on May 14th ).

Chinese citizens are super angry with SH officials and experts whose unwillingness to stick to national covid protocals and half-a$$ed action caused covid spillovers to other cities and provinces, and demand the reponsible SH officals to be punished accordingly.

So far, CPC has punished over thousnads of officals, Nanjing, Shanghai, for their incomptence and sluggish action. I personally feel CPC needs to punish top level SH officials, just as it did with Jilin, Wuhan, Nanjing, etc.

IF China adopts Western style co-exist, China will face 4,000 -6,000 dealths per day, given China is about 20 times the size of UK's population. <- This, will definitely NOT be an improvement of covid deaths for Chinese! Now China has 5206 deaths in total since Wuhan breakout two years ago.

Can you imagine how Chinese citizens will feel? Rebellion! Throw off the government! Don't even mention how MSM will potray CPC government as the most evil dictatorship in human history......

Posted by: lulu | May 15 2022 16:47 utc | 378

You leave out some info, like the fact that the US have regularly called the Russians, but it was the Russians who chose to answer this time. So you could just as easily ask, why did Shoigu answer this time?

Posted by: Sm | May 15 2022 15:16 utc | 373


Good question. Of course it's not entirely impossible that Shoigu's acceptance of the call represents some kind of softening of the Russian position, but I don't think this is the case. Instead I propose the following:

Consider that these calls aren't impromptu affairs. Austin doesn't pick up the phone, dial Shoigu's number, and hope that he isn't in the shower or something. The time of the call and, I suspect, something resembling an agenda is worked out by lower-level officials in advance. I think it more likely that something like the following transpired:

Austin aide: The SecDef would like to speak with Defense Minister Shoigu.
Shoigu aide: We've heard that before. Our position is that there is nothing to discuss unless your SecDef has something new to put on the table.
Austin aide: Well, as a matter of fact . . . (etc.)

Posted by: malenkov | May 15 2022 16:52 utc | 379

lulu | May 15 2022 16:47 utc | 379
You should better concentrate on political analysis and this kind of subjects. Do they confirm that Covid-19 was the cause of deaths by autopsy? So how can they know?
"Looking at Covid Deaths in Uk, you can see in UK over 1000 and 1300 Britons died every day at the peaking time in April, 2020 and Jan 2021 respectively, and about 200 - 300 Britons died between Jan - April, 2022 and currently down to over 100 deaths per day. Of course, it's only nyatur you feel the situation has dramatically improved"
Therefore these are just fairy tales, like the Western MSM, but from a different direction.

Posted by: Hausmeister | May 15 2022 16:55 utc | 380

@yebiga | May 15 2022 13:16 utc | 359

Why is it we can be critical and dismissive of western media when it comes to their Ukraine war narratives but accept without question the equally ridiculous covid narratives?
Exactly. I am critical of both and has said so from the very beginning in both cases.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 15 2022 16:58 utc | 381

As folks replying to my comments about China's actions in Shanghai seem to have missed my point I'll again note the context:

>>>GLOBAL ECONOMIC WARFARE<<<

The current hot topic is Ukraine. Russia is being attacked economically- I am sure that no one here will argue otherwise.

Russia and China have essentially established a bond to combat such attacks. Are there any complaints about THIS statement?

So...

While Europe burns via the USA's hands that pretty much leaves the USA as the only entity that is going unscathed (well, yes, it's getting scratched up, but in the context of what's happening to Ukraine and to Europe it's not even on the chart). US's militarism and economic warfare is only increasing. These actions are also being pointed at China. Arguments on this?

I appreciate lulu's information as to the political climate of/in Shanghai vis a vis it being more liberal and rebellious toward the national government: funny, it's the "conservatives" in the US that are rebellious toward the US's national government. BUT, this has ZERO to do with my POINT. It most certainly MAY be part of what is happening, and I won't conjecture one way or another (the point is not relevant to my point). On one hand the Chinese govt is capable of dealing with everything, yet on the other hand it is not? Can't be both. So...

Politics is multi-dimensional. Hardly is it ever that ONLY a single thing is THE issue; yes, ONE thing CAN be THE primary issue, but that does not mean there are not secondary (and so on) issues that affect all else. It is often these secondary issues that are driving more action than the primary one because everyone is focused on the primary issue.

The people, the activists and so on, are seeing COVID as the primary issue, and this is true in that they are being affected via this issue. Behind the scenes, however, the power brokers are working different angles.

I will default (and it's my actual position in all of this) that the Chinese government IS acting with pure benevolent intent. This, however, still has little bearing on my POINT. The Chinese government can do TWO things at once. ONE: it can deal with COVID. TWO: it can deal with the economic (and military war that's brewing) war being waged by the US. My hypothesis is that it is working BOTH, together, leveraging them. The pieces are there and can readily be combined to achieve the actions I suggest. I will admit that I cannot PROVE that it is happening, only that the facts/realities could readily be achieved by such intentions (and if not the intention then clearly a side-effect). Anyone trying to argue against this without actual proof has to prove a negative- I don't think that that is a smart thing to try and do! Anyway...

It's the second thing, number TWO, that I'm trying to address. This thread has to do with Russia and Ukraine; I'm trying to pull in China into the mix as a co-combatant (along with Russia) fighting the greater economic war that is being waged (I assume people understand this; if not then perhaps ask questions rather than trying to defend some policy issue that doesn't pertain to Russia and Ukraine?).

Regarding the handling of COVID I have to push back on the poor logic used to justify [support] the Chinese govt's actions. IF crap can get out of a highly controlled biolab how the heck are you going to stop it from circulating in an entire country? [and like quarantines are 100% effective? please!] And do so for all of eternity? The ONLY mechanisms that can be seen as actually fighting COVID are of slowing the spread and of attending to the vulnerable. Lock downs is a tool to slow the spread, but unless there's a huge effort to take care of the vulnerable (vaccination) then lock downs are a poor application/deployment of that tool. It might be that the Chinese govt thought that they could lock down Shanghai AND get older folks vaccinated but that the population there has been defiant and the Chinese govt now sees it as a battle/test of their power and is resorting to things in a more punative fashion. I am not saying this as a FACT, I'm saying that it is a POSSIBILITY (unless someone is inside the upper echelon of the Chinese govt and has documents showing one way or another NO ONE KNOWS- there is NO FACT to support any personal view/comment from anyone here). In my mind, because I default to the position that the Chinese govt is wholly benevolent, is that the lock down is being leveraged NOT against the people there but against the US/West. Perhaps it's both things, I don't know. Both, however, can serve a purpose: this cannot be denied (unless, again, someone can come up with internal decision-making documents).

COVID in Shanghai cannot be stopped, just as it cannot be stopped anywhere in the world. Only vaccinations (and developing immunity) can lessen the impacts. And it's the older population which is most at risk (the population that the Chinese govt appears to have struggled to get vaccinated <- this is not a slam, it's a statement of reality and the more people try to shuffle their feet and pretend that this isn't the case the MORE you can expect any lock-down to FAIL). COVID has brought us a lot more death via suicide and drugs: if once ignores this then I find the notion of desiring to "save lives" disingenuous. Solve one problem and create another... (any "solution" is successful given a small enough view and or time slice)

So, with input from the "dissenters" (of my hypothesis) I now see that the Chinese govt could very well be leveraging the lock-down in Shanghai to crack-down on the dissenters there. (I'd be curious as to whether there are anti-Russia actions in Shanghai; I'm guessing that the lock-downs will lift as Russia finishes its objectives in Ukraine [feel free to save a link to this posting and get back to me on how my ramblings turned out!]). THREE birds with one stone so to speak: 1) Economic war against the West (by stealth); 2) COVID control (as futile as it is- they better also be massively ramping up vaccinations for the vulnerable otherwise I'll call this one a smokescreen); 3) Assert control over the dissenting population (likely infected with western actors).

Lastly, anyone can claim having some sort of "inside" information, claim to be in "that" country. This means squat. Just because someone is IN some country doesn't mean that they are smart (those who do most certainly can look around and identify "stupid" people- ask yourself whether you might not also be seen as one), that they have magic powers to KNOW what power is doing. I could make up whatever "creds" I could possibly come up with and assert my superiority and whether true or not that is, without presentation of identifiable FACTS, meaningless, the same value as BS. A comment is a comment. Political statements, often loaded with bias, is no more than a comment often disguised as fact(s). The world would be better off if people would preface their comments with "I believe" or "I suspect," rather than making absolute statements of "fact" when there are ZERO facts. Further, and this irks me to no end, challenge with questions, not by name-calling or derogatory lashings out: every single person here is ignorant on one thing or another (or, likely multiple things)- lashing out at folks does nothing to help educate, to help reduce ignorance.

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 17:14 utc | 382

Therefore I'm a bit at a loss, too, what China tries to achive with it's zero-Covid policy,...

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | May 15 2022 6:02 utc | 281

Leaving aside just how dangerous it is covid is an asymmetric war bioweapon. Not the pathogen effects but the political and economic effects. The Chinese are told they are at war with America, btw, so their population is being trained including police, military, public health in case of nuclear attack. Best of all, shutting down factories etc for a while helps degrade Western countries esp USA. A good asymmetric bioweapon.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 15 2022 17:16 utc | 383

the purpose of the trip was certainly to set the general against the president.

Posted by: money does not talk | May 15 2022 17:42 utc | 384

Posted by: Scorpion | May 15 2022 17:16 utc | 384

Leaving aside just how dangerous it is covid is an asymmetric war bioweapon. Not the pathogen effects but the political and economic effects. The Chinese are told they are at war with America, btw, so their population is being trained including police, military, public health in case of nuclear attack. Best of all, shutting down factories etc for a while helps degrade Western countries esp USA. A good asymmetric bioweapon.

Thank god someone actually sees that geopolitics is actually happening!

I appreciate all those who "defend" the Chinese govt, and that the Chinese govt is (may be?) better than so many others, but in the immortal words of I.F. Stone: All governments lie. Those that fail to understand this will fail to understand the true geopolitical positionings.

IF the Chinese govt saw/calculated that they could save lives from military conflict by locking down for reasons not related to military conflict (a white lie?) would that be acceptable (to those championing that the Chinese govt cares for the average person)?

NOTE: In the US everyone was told that lockdowns were to slow the spread and to limit the number of deaths. Well, the number of deaths from COVID were likely reduced (there can be debate on this) the numbers of deaths not related to COVID increased. If policies aren't viewed in the larger context then one can readily overlook a failure. I will still argue, and Scorpion provided a good supporting position, that China's lockdowns aren't really the primary goal (again, show me the documented proof/effort of intensive vaccination efforts for the elderly and I'll lean toward it as being the primary goal [there's what the public is being told and what those in power are looking to accomplish- can be multiple things, but there's only ONE thing that can reside at the top spot).

Regarding warfare, COVID could be seen more so as a terrorist weapon, something to instill terror. Destabilize a population w/o killing hordes of people: I could make the argument/take the side of those saying such, that in the US this was actually done in order to "prepare" US citizens for greater control (was it the primary reason? who the F knows, but that's clearly setting up a a "product/byproduct"). I won't conjecture as to what people with hands-on to all this stuff are doing it all for (again, people need to show the documentation or just state that they are commenting, not that they can KNOW for a FACT): many are compartmentalized; just as the Manhattan Project was- only very few people actually knew the facts of all.

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 17:57 utc | 385

Posted by: ETA | May 15 2022 8:31 utc | 307

No more than another "commenter." Andrei Martyanov would say that this person is making conclusions by looking at the battle field and not by knowing/understanding the actual strategy (which is only known to the very top few [and they will alter as they go]).

If one believes someone else is correct then one should be able to argue that point. If Nathan Rich were here he would be expected to answer questions: and I highly doubt he'd be able to discount the notion of there being MORE than one reason for the lockdowns, not do so without having inside documentation showing/confirming his position (of there only one reason). BTW - I watched a lot of his stuff in the past (just haven't kept up as of late, not by intention, just that life is a bit busy and my focus is on Russia) and DO appreciate him.

I have no skin in this game in which case no bias: others cannot state the same.

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 18:04 utc | 386

Posted by: karlof1 | May 15 2022 1:18 utc | 217

Posted by Pepe Escobar at his VK page:

"Extremely serious.

"The Empire of Lies had a clear floor at the UNSC to rebuke any and all of the collected Russian evidence.

"They remained mum."

Gee, that's almost like how the Hunter Biden laptop incident was handled! Coincidence? (what's common- ha ha! [starts with a "U"])

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 18:07 utc | 387

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | May 15 2022 1:49 utc | 234

If you have to resort to attacking the messenger rather than the message then you've lost. Thanks for playing!

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 18:08 utc | 388

Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 15 2022 4:11 utc | 261

Yes, there very well might be nefarious stuff behind COVID. What I saw with your post, however, was something often overlooked, though seemingly commented on a lot (though not used in all the cases is ought to be), is that of a government doubling down refusing to accept failure/defeat. One hypothesis that I had is that the Chinese govt was trying to keep from being seen as responsible for allowing the West to introduce COVID there; I mean, 2019 World Military Games in Wuhan when everyone knows (and did so at that time) that the US was gunning for China. The protector of the people falls down on the job? Let the fox in the chicken coop? And, yes, there was the lab: unleashed from that lab during the Games? (I am not sure how much it was circulated, but there was at one point statements from the Chinese govt that it was the US who was responsible for COVID- might have been a pushback on Trump and his "China Virus" shtick).

Hubris is everywhere. I don't think that the Chinese govt is exempt from hubris. Those who do believe that the Chinese govt IS exempt, well, that's the very definition of hubris!

Despite all the defenses in place on 9/11 [US], 9/11 still happened. Easy for someone in China to point out and claim that couldn't happen in China. Well, stuff that happens in China is said to not be able to happen in the US. Believing only one entity is somehow superior, not able to suffer from such, is pure hubris (defies what the realities from human history show us- humans and governments are fare from being fallible).

IMO China F'd COVID up (the books are still open- once the virus launches full bore how many older people are going to die? and then how many have died due to lockdown stress? we do not KNOW, so don't pretend until after all the facts come in!): I appreciate its attempts as that provides us with another test case- only way to know what works best is to try different things. Does that mean that the Chinese govt is an F'd up entity? No, that's not what I'm saying. Again, I "believe" that the current actions are a veil (though they can still provide a level of "life saving") for the larger battle (learn and make sure that you don't lose the next battle!), the economic war with the US/West.

I will once again note that this discussion matters in the fact that there's a economic effect that affects the USA, Russia and China and that all three of these countries are engaged in economic warfare on a global scale. This IS geopolitics. And all of this is most certainly in the head of Austin (if not outright details, guidelines based on all this).

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 18:32 utc | 389

As some have noted, the $40 billion isn't all for weapons. Consider this as a cheap propaganda effort. It's USD, you know, the stuff that's not backed by anything, from the country that is both the economic powerhouse AND most debt-laden country in the world. Throw "money" at the problem is the US way!

I haven't watched the Ritter vid yet, but everyone can have a bad day. I'll take Andrei's analysis vis a vis overall strategic mechanisms over individual battle field skirmishes. Not to take away from Scott, but he's not on the top rung of strategic thinkers: he's good for understanding what troops are doing, the weapons systems (for the most part). And, really, no info from anywhere other than the cloistered backrooms of the planners, which will never see the public (unless for propaganda effect) is worth more than the digital bits it's written on.

Russia owns this war. It owns/controls the skies. It has a civilian population that is mostly non-hostile to it, if not welcoming (once the Nazis are far enough away). In my mind the only question is that of what Russia will do once it meets its objectives: what will Ukraine, if it even is allowed to exist, will look like.

This "problem" has been under construction for MANY years and its undoing won't happen in a blink of an eye. However, as the saying goes: It happened slowly and then all at once. The tipping point is near and that phone call from Austin is an indicator: while Austin may be saying that if Russia doesn't cease then the US will bring in NATO with everything it has- Russia's reply would be "bring it on", that it reflects more desperation than of threat (because of what Russia's real response is likely to have been).

As they are two countries that I've been to (over 25 years ago, so, clearly, things are likely different now), I feel a bit distressed in hearing that Finland and Sweden are going to, by all accounts, join NATO. Future staging grounds for missiles; rather, future targets for Russia.

Regarding what we see/hear... Lots of caution. I was leaning toward accepting the info that was presented vis a vis the pontoon bridge fiasco and then I watched this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKX1MKW5wjE

Defense Politics Asia approaches things just as they should be approached. He did a wonderful job in this. He didn't want to put this together because he thought it was silly to address some small event (he noted what it all meant in the grand scheme of the war efforts- similar to what Martyanov does) but said there were so many people asking him to that he reluctantly decided to do so.

It's undeniable where the Russian forces have infiltrated. The size of Ukraine, the amount of preparation by the West to repel Russia, well, there is no conclusion to be drawn other than Russia is overall dominating and achieving its objectives. IF the US/NATO try to jump in I expect to see China wading in (and then that's game over for the West/NATO). Ukraine being torn up is one thing, but Finland and Sweden? WTF? And so it was written...

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 19:19 utc | 390

Re: tucenz | May 15 2022 11:05 utc | 333
re: Daniel | May 15 2022 13:23 utc | 362
re: Billy the Texas Red | May 15 2022 16:16 utc | 377

The comment wasn't my comment but was a comment by "george james ducas" to the youtube video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b89jcNqgJo of Kissinger talking. Sorry I wasn't more clear about that. I should have used quote format - I'm just unfamiliar/uncomfortable with the < > keystrokes! And I'm not going to paragraph someone else's Gish Gallop!

The comment seemed like some slightly unhinged ukie belief system. Revanchism is a challenge particularly for a piece of land (eastern europe) that is largely flat and has no significant boundaries and has had people living there for millenia.

Posted by: tucenz | May 15 2022 20:21 utc | 391

Everyone who reads this webpage should be ashamed of themselves. Americans on the far right supported hitler and nazi Germany all the way up to Pearl Harbor. Learn from history or, if that’s too difficult, support freedom. Don’t you all have t-shirts that say “FREEDOM” on it? Ronald Reagan would be turning over in his grave if he knew Americans in 2022 were supporting Russian aggression.

Posted by: Mike | May 15 2022 21:31 utc | 392

it's Finland not Norway.

Posted by: Ulrich | May 15 2022 21:34 utc | 393

typo: Donets / Donezk

Posted by: Ulrich | May 15 2022 21:38 utc | 394

Scott Ritter has always been confident of a Russian victory. Until a recent video he did with Garland Nixon. In that video he still predicted a Russian victory in the Donbas but then foresaw big problems after that. He mentioned that the Ukrainians are in Poland and Germany getting trained on new USA/NATO weapons and that they will come back and be able to reconstitute the military in Western/Central Ukraine and come back and attack the Donbas. And I believe he had the sense that the USA/EU were not going to accept Russian victory in Ukraine and that the weapons would just keep coming. He said Zelensky wants to get 1 million Ukrainian men into the army. It appeared that he felt Russia would need to consider it a war and mobilize more men to stand up to a newly armed Ukrainian force.

Posted by: Tony | May 16 2022 0:56 utc | 395

@Stonebird #300
"Apparently the aim is to sink ALL the National currencies at once. "

Structures and methods are being shunted into view, later to be locked, loaded and fired, such that national sovereignty will be a thing of the past.

Interesting to see how a 'multipolar' world will work with unipolar technological interface featuring universally interchangeable digicurrencies linked to universally recognized digital IDs no doubt with a universally charged transaction tax (unless there are bone fide cyberspace firewalls which I heard rumors about years ago but then no more).

Pretty much any system can work well if genuine good will in place amongst all key players. However, once corruption slips in - as it always does and so certainly will - then a system is only as good as its ability to fight off corruption. The American Republic maybe never got off the ground that way, banksters having been toying with the fledgling breakaway ab initio, but it has become increasingly obvious since JKF that it is more and more acting like rather than actually being a bona fide Republic. Some would go back to 1913, some to the Civil War, some to Jackson and so on. But certainly of late it's fair to say that an increasing number, perhaps now actually a majority finally, of the population see clearly that the whole thing is bogus. Back in the 30's most people though USG was genuine and people from that generation still do for the most part. But now?

So: the system is on its last legs - clearly - and its time to create a new one in which we can all have faith and trust and probably it will work very nicely for the first generation or two until a new squeeze, a new shakedown is developed and some sort of ghastly totalitarian nightmare ensues. We will all be Chinese then!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 16 2022 1:25 utc | 396

@Arganthonios #302

The Empire-loving utter moron proves again what a complete loser and bum-licker it is.

Posted by: CalDre | May 16 2022 1:31 utc | 397

And all of this is most certainly in the head of Austin (if not outright details, guidelines based on all this).

Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 18:32 utc | 390

The only thing going on in Austin's head is who's taking showers in the Women's Shower Room and suchlike. He also seems to need to concentrate just to walk, putting one foot forward after another.

Have said before and will now say again: he seems to be the result of crossing a pineapple with a potato, neither of which are known as deep thinkers or keen strategists!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 16 2022 1:48 utc | 398

Posted by: lulu | May 15 2022 16:47 utc | 379

Thanks for the attempts at explanation, but as you can see from the responses here, I'm afraid that many people in the West simply cannot wrap their minds around it. The fact that Chinese people want to have a dynamic zero Covid policy, and are capable of making it work is contrary to everything they've been taught to believe as "objective laws of nature" by their experiences of society in their own countries. You might as well be explaining to them why and how China could make the sun rise in the west, as far as their worldviews are concerned.

This is a huge cultural and societal difference between China and possibly everywhere else (certainly all of the "West") which I think runs even deeper than the CPC. (Think about how our ancient myths had the Great Yu fighting the flood, whereas pretty much everyone else had something similar to Noah's Ark...)

Posted by: Chinese American | May 16 2022 2:36 utc | 399

Seer @7

The Larry Johnson theory of the Chinese lockdown is inept. China needs no special pretext for slowing down the supply of chips or anything else. If some fig leaf were needed (which, again, is not the case) it surely wouldn't have to be so hugely expensive and destabilizing for all of the country and its government. The Chinese objective re epidemics that may or may not be US-originated biologic warfare remains as it was 2 years ago: eradication of the disease, at the very least minimizing the invalidating and fatal outcomes at any cost; then reopening the economy full throttle.

Posted by: Piero Colombo | May 16 2022 4:04 utc | 400

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