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If Ukraine Is Winning Why Is The U.S. Requesting A Ceasefire?
Yesterday the U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin called the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu.
Why?
The U.S. readout of the call says:
On May 13, Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III spoke with Russian Minister of Defense Sergey Shoygu for the first time since February 18. Secretary Austin urged an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and emphasized the importance of maintaining lines of communication.
Austin initiated the call and the U.S. is seeking a ceasefire in Ukraine!!!
Are we not told that the Ukraine is winning the war? That it will soon push the Russian forces back over the border? The operation to 'weaken Russia', which Austin had publicly announced two weeks ago, does not seem to go that well.
Told ya so!
Gonzalo Lira thinks that the call points to a soon coming collapse of the Ukrainian forces. Let us hope that this is indeed the case because it seems to be the only chance that the war will end soon.
The Ukraine is losing up to 15,000 men per month to the war. The total Ukrainian casualties, dead and wounded, are likely already at 50,000. The weapons the U.S. and others provide, are not sufficient to sustain the war. The Ukraine has only 3 days reserves of diesel and gasoline left. The main parts of its forces are immobile and are getting surrounded by Russian forces. Their situation is hopeless.
The Pentagon of course knows this all and that is why Austin initiated the call and asked for a ceasefire.
The Russia side will not agree to a ceasefire. At least not unless the 'west' offers to take back some of the 6,400 sanction measures it has initiated against Russia.
There are recently a number of other issues that also go in favor of Russia:
- The economic outlook for Russia is good. It will have a record wheat harvest. Its internal measures to compensate for the results of sanctions are working. Counter sanctions Russia has now initiated against its enemies are starting to become effective.
- Hungary has blocked European sanctions against Russian oil.
- Turkey is slowing down if not prohibiting the entry of Kurd friendly Sweden and Norway into NATO.
- The U.S. weapon deliveries to Ukraine will stop on May 19 unless Congress passes authority for new ones.
- Senator Rand Paul has held up the required bill with the quite reasonable demand to have a inspector general scrutinize where the $40 billion 'for Ukraine' will be going. The Democrats will certainly dislike that.
- U.S. gasoline prices have hit a record high.
- European natural gas prices have also jumped after the Ukraine blocked the flow from Russia through one of the pipelines and while the flow through the Yamal pipeline in Poland has been stopped due to Russian counter sanctions.
- Le Monde has verified and published a video that shows a Ukrainian 'volunteer battalion', led by a known criminal, torturing Russian prisoners of war.
- Russia has published new material about the U.S. military biological 'research' in Ukraine. Other countries will also have questions about these activities.
The British Ministry of Defense claims that Russia lost a significant amount of material and men in an attempt to cross the Seversky Donets river. However the aerial pictures published by the Ukrainian Defense Ministry show that about half of the destroyed vehicles are BMP-1 with the original small one man turret and the stubby 73 mm gun. Russia is said to no longer have these. All its active service BMP-1 are said to have been upgraded and now have different turrets with 30 mm machine cannons with longer rifles. There must have been a larger battle over the crossing with probably both sides taking heavy losses. Moreover the fighting is now on the western side of the river. The Russian forces thus must have crossed the river in significant numbers.
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Y’all here at MOA are gonna love this one
(Imagine Henry and Albright in coitus about the time she died or not long after. флюгегехаймен !!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b89jcNqgJo
Henry Kissinger: ‘We are now living in a totally new era’ | FT
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The FT’s US national editor, Edward Luce, talks to former US secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, about Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and the spectre of nuclear war. Read more at https://on.ft.com/3P8hTKS
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In the youtube clip comments section there is this one (which is how much truth/bullshit?) –
George James Ducas
1 hour ago
In 60 AD Apostle Saint Andrew traveled to the area of Kiev, preached, and said, one day a great city would be built here with many churches to the glory of God. Today there is a church to Saint Andrew in Kiev. The peoples in the area were Slavic. Kyi, Shchek and Khoryv, three brothers and the sister Lybid founded Kiev in 482 AD, Kiev was named after the older brother Kyi. Kiev the older brother was King. Herodotus wrote that Hercules had founded this land.
The Rus were Viking tribes that settled peacefully in Kiev as far back as 750 AD with the Slavs there, 400 years before Moskva existed. The name Russia, coming from the city Moskva, has no connection to the RUS. Russia coming from Moskva started with Batu Kahn much later as a vasal under Mongolian rule. All the early Czars were Mongolian and of no connection to the RUS. The Rus were with the Slavs to the south in Kiev. Moskva were Finnish Urgic Tribes; Mosk means cow and Va water, which are Finnish names. There was no RUS there. The ethnic background of Moskva is Finnish-Urgic and Mongolian. The Rus developed the religion, city Kiev, alphabet, churches, and had its saints. The founder of Kievian Rus (800) or the Rus was a Viking named Askold or Oskold (Norse) from Sweden; not Oleg as in the Russian story. Kievian Rus exists long Before Novgorod and Oleg’s arrival there. Askold is the Slavic name. Oskold, the first King of Kievian Rus was in Kiev before Oleg in Novgorod. Oskold had 200 ships and 20,000 warriors. Oskold was baptized in Constantinople (128 years before Volodymyr) and sent the first bishop back to Kiev. Oskold and Dir were the first Dynasty of Kievian Rus. Askold rules from the 40-60s and Dir to the 80s. Askold is buried in Kiev and the first Kievian Christian King & Dynasty. Oleg followed coming from Sweden through Novgorod and was a pagan. Russia as named today started in the city of Moskva over 400 years later after Kievian Rus or Rus. From Kiev, the capitol of Rus, Kievian culture was spread, much like the Greeks Hellenized the known world, or like the British anglicized the world by the English language. This process does not make Moskva to become RUS in as much as Persian are not Greek. How we are misled by a name; Russia. The capitol of the RUS has always been Kiev. There is no other RUS and no RUS in Moskva. Many say Ukraine began recently; but the culture of the RUS is Kievian RUS, both culture and ethnic background. Ukraine is a name given by Poland meaning outer lands. The land of the RUS before the Mongolian invasion was very large. The name RUS is a Norse name which means men that row; there are no men that row in Moskva. So Moskva adopted the name Russia while being a Mongolian vassal, essentially traitor to the RUS; and all the Czars were Mongolian-Finnish. The Culture of the Mongolian was centralized power, and that cultural imprint was passed on to present day Russia. Ukraine’s real name should be Kievian RUS, or Kievskarus! Russia began in Moskva by Batu Kahn and Novgorod conquered much later, still no connection to the Rus.
Putin & Lavrov should be ashamed of themselves, the USSR was an occupation; it never had the status of a sovereign state and due process of law that would be associated with a free society. Even today the mentality of the gulag exists. There is no freedom of press and speech, people are arrested for speech, there is no due process of law, and the religion is state run making it a totalitarian theocracy. As such, it did not deserve to exist in a free world; and history has shown such totalitarian organizations fail over time and author in many gulags. The true culture of Russia is Finno-Ugric and Mongolian, having nothing to do with the RUS (Kievian), expect borrowed as in the sense of Hellenized or Anglicized “forms” as a comparative reference. The centralized form of Russian politics is a very Mongolian imprint on culture. The actions of Putin seem to be another Mongolian invasion of Kiev; here I suggest as to the correct metaphor. I believe so. Putin & Lavrov insistence to have purview over eastern Europe also seems like paying tribute to the Mongolian Horde. Moskva started as an agglomeration of Finnish tribes, combining a Finnish name meaning cows water and developed by Mongolian culture. Mosk means cow and Va means water. The RUS are men that row, Vikings, Norse, established Kiev 400 years before (750 AD) Moskva even thought to exist. The name Russia for current nation is totally inappropriate. The current Russia started in Moskva; how misleading is the name Russia coming from Moskva that has no connection to the RUS. All the lands should be returned to Kiev; the West of Russia to Finland, and the East to Mongolia. Russia’s place on the globe appears as a temporary aberration in my view. To use threats of Nukes publicly strikes at the heart as adolescent behaviour; surely any nation or person that issues such threats and being an ally to such while not even having war imposed on them is not fit to rule. This would include allies of Russia. Oh yes, I remember, Russia didn’t invent the bomb, they stole it in the 1940’s and gave it to Kurchatov. Russia struggles with an identity crisis since its beginnings unoriginal to the ethnic groups. Its errors are numerous, 50 million killed by Stalin in WW2, allied to the Nazis to kill the Poles for their defeat in WW2, Holodomor where millions of Ukrainians were killed and grain stolen, and constant antagonist with Europe. We even have the Holy Mother announcing Russia’s errors at Fatima. Russia is a Mongolian culture and all the first Czars were Mongolian and Batu Kahn is the author.
Oskold was the grandson of Ragnar the king of Sweden, his name is old Norse and spoke old Norse, the name Rus is old Norse, he settled peacefully in Kiev and the Slavs made him king, he brought Christianity to Kiev with his son dir…his burial mound is where St Nicholas church is built, Oleg wasn’t even in Novgorod when this happened, and Oleg is not a Rus nor old Norse name. The Slavs called Oskold the name Askold. After came Dir, Oleg was a pagan who assassinated Dir, Oskold becomes the first dynasty…later when the line of kings get to Vladimir, he is captured at a trading post by the Mongols, the post is called Moskva, and the king killed. Moskva as a city was a Mongolian invention, and Novgorod becomes a part of that Russia by conquest, although having nothing to do with the Rus. Oskold line is Ragnar, ironside, Oskold from the King of Sweden Ragnar. Oleg is via Rurik coming much later. The accounts of Oskold are within the time, Al Mamun an Arab writer of the time wrote of Oskold, the Russian chronicles come hundreds of years later. In much the same way accounts of relevant history are better understood by those of the times, much like the Bible, dating to the original times makes the account authentic. The Russian chronicles are merely a tale and inaccurate.
Kiev was a city over 1000 years before Russia even existed. Kiev was Kievian Rus before Novgorod and when Oleg arrived. Putin is kidding himself if he thinks any part of Ukraine belongs to Russia. We can see that Israel belongs to the Jews, similarly all the lands around Kiev of Kievian Rus belong to Kiev as a single nation and city state. Russia’s beginnings are a wanting child begun as a captive insurgency having nothing of its own; a captive state that was reeking in servitude to Mongolia and invented by Mongolia. The entire culture of Russia from Moscow is Mongolian centralized power, a pagan culture of no empathy and Christianity. The Christianity is tainted as a state religion or theocracy and politicized. History is often obscured by being written by the ones in charge. The history of Ukraine has been obscured by the Soviet Occupation and cultural appropriations. Moscow in an attempt to appropriate a history not its own, rewrote the narrative of history to cover up its compromised origins; Kiev and Ukraine is a history much older and more civilized; making contributions to civilization. Russian despotism becomes the blueprint, foundation & model for every despot nation, look at its allies; the error of its ways has spread throughout the globe; much like the message from the Holy Mother at Fatima. Those that are sympathetic to Russian atrocities can find similarities in their own histories. Ukraine has a democracy at a local level Moscow never had and fears. Russian boundless ignorance is a type often found in the poorest of nations, and usually the poorest have a history of the hardest tyrants over them that also inflict poverty, physical and spiritual, on others they attempt to subjugate, a reflection of their own lives, an abomination of desolation.
Askold was in Constantinople in 860 and Oleg arrived in Novgorod not until 862. The Arabs referred to Askold as the Slavic King or King of the Slavs which he had been for a while. Pontius says Askold brings Christianity to Kiev from Constantinople and a bishop. Ragnar the Norse King of Sweden was born in 767 AD, his son Bjorn ironside was born in 796 AD, and grandson Oskold (Askold) was born in 820 AD. Askold arrived in Kiev in 840 and had a son Dir, Both become King and the first Christian dynasty. Askold dies and gets a burial mound in a park in Kiev. Dir follows as King. Dir is assassinated by Oleg who is a pagan. Nobody knows who Rurik is or who the father is . Oleg is a generation away from Askold. Olga of Kiev builds a church on Askold’ s burial grounds. Pontius of Constantinople says Askold brings a Bishop and Christianity to Kiev. Russia much later is a Mongolian invention…….
Posted by: tucenz | May 15 2022 11:05 utc | 331
As folks replying to my comments about China’s actions in Shanghai seem to have missed my point I’ll again note the context:
>>>GLOBAL ECONOMIC WARFARE<<<
The current hot topic is Ukraine. Russia is being attacked economically- I am sure that no one here will argue otherwise.
Russia and China have essentially established a bond to combat such attacks. Are there any complaints about THIS statement?
So...
While Europe burns via the USA's hands that pretty much leaves the USA as the only entity that is going unscathed (well, yes, it's getting scratched up, but in the context of what's happening to Ukraine and to Europe it's not even on the chart). US's militarism and economic warfare is only increasing. These actions are also being pointed at China. Arguments on this?
I appreciate lulu's information as to the political climate of/in Shanghai vis a vis it being more liberal and rebellious toward the national government: funny, it's the "conservatives" in the US that are rebellious toward the US's national government. BUT, this has ZERO to do with my POINT. It most certainly MAY be part of what is happening, and I won't conjecture one way or another (the point is not relevant to my point). On one hand the Chinese govt is capable of dealing with everything, yet on the other hand it is not? Can't be both. So...
Politics is multi-dimensional. Hardly is it ever that ONLY a single thing is THE issue; yes, ONE thing CAN be THE primary issue, but that does not mean there are not secondary (and so on) issues that affect all else. It is often these secondary issues that are driving more action than the primary one because everyone is focused on the primary issue.
The people, the activists and so on, are seeing COVID as the primary issue, and this is true in that they are being affected via this issue. Behind the scenes, however, the power brokers are working different angles.
I will default (and it's my actual position in all of this) that the Chinese government IS acting with pure benevolent intent. This, however, still has little bearing on my POINT. The Chinese government can do TWO things at once. ONE: it can deal with COVID. TWO: it can deal with the economic (and military war that's brewing) war being waged by the US. My hypothesis is that it is working BOTH, together, leveraging them. The pieces are there and can readily be combined to achieve the actions I suggest. I will admit that I cannot PROVE that it is happening, only that the facts/realities could readily be achieved by such intentions (and if not the intention then clearly a side-effect). Anyone trying to argue against this without actual proof has to prove a negative- I don't think that that is a smart thing to try and do! Anyway...
It's the second thing, number TWO, that I'm trying to address. This thread has to do with Russia and Ukraine; I’m trying to pull in China into the mix as a co-combatant (along with Russia) fighting the greater economic war that is being waged (I assume people understand this; if not then perhaps ask questions rather than trying to defend some policy issue that doesn’t pertain to Russia and Ukraine?).
Regarding the handling of COVID I have to push back on the poor logic used to justify [support] the Chinese govt’s actions. IF crap can get out of a highly controlled biolab how the heck are you going to stop it from circulating in an entire country? [and like quarantines are 100% effective? please!] And do so for all of eternity? The ONLY mechanisms that can be seen as actually fighting COVID are of slowing the spread and of attending to the vulnerable. Lock downs is a tool to slow the spread, but unless there’s a huge effort to take care of the vulnerable (vaccination) then lock downs are a poor application/deployment of that tool. It might be that the Chinese govt thought that they could lock down Shanghai AND get older folks vaccinated but that the population there has been defiant and the Chinese govt now sees it as a battle/test of their power and is resorting to things in a more punative fashion. I am not saying this as a FACT, I’m saying that it is a POSSIBILITY (unless someone is inside the upper echelon of the Chinese govt and has documents showing one way or another NO ONE KNOWS- there is NO FACT to support any personal view/comment from anyone here). In my mind, because I default to the position that the Chinese govt is wholly benevolent, is that the lock down is being leveraged NOT against the people there but against the US/West. Perhaps it’s both things, I don’t know. Both, however, can serve a purpose: this cannot be denied (unless, again, someone can come up with internal decision-making documents).
COVID in Shanghai cannot be stopped, just as it cannot be stopped anywhere in the world. Only vaccinations (and developing immunity) can lessen the impacts. And it’s the older population which is most at risk (the population that the Chinese govt appears to have struggled to get vaccinated <- this is not a slam, it's a statement of reality and the more people try to shuffle their feet and pretend that this isn't the case the MORE you can expect any lock-down to FAIL). COVID has brought us a lot more death via suicide and drugs: if once ignores this then I find the notion of desiring to "save lives" disingenuous. Solve one problem and create another... (any "solution" is successful given a small enough view and or time slice)
So, with input from the "dissenters" (of my hypothesis) I now see that the Chinese govt could very well be leveraging the lock-down in Shanghai to crack-down on the dissenters there. (I'd be curious as to whether there are anti-Russia actions in Shanghai; I'm guessing that the lock-downs will lift as Russia finishes its objectives in Ukraine [feel free to save a link to this posting and get back to me on how my ramblings turned out!]). THREE birds with one stone so to speak: 1) Economic war against the West (by stealth); 2) COVID control (as futile as it is- they better also be massively ramping up vaccinations for the vulnerable otherwise I'll call this one a smokescreen); 3) Assert control over the dissenting population (likely infected with western actors).
Lastly, anyone can claim having some sort of "inside" information, claim to be in "that" country. This means squat. Just because someone is IN some country doesn't mean that they are smart (those who do most certainly can look around and identify "stupid" people- ask yourself whether you might not also be seen as one), that they have magic powers to KNOW what power is doing. I could make up whatever "creds" I could possibly come up with and assert my superiority and whether true or not that is, without presentation of identifiable FACTS, meaningless, the same value as BS. A comment is a comment. Political statements, often loaded with bias, is no more than a comment often disguised as fact(s). The world would be better off if people would preface their comments with "I believe" or "I suspect," rather than making absolute statements of "fact" when there are ZERO facts. Further, and this irks me to no end, challenge with questions, not by name-calling or derogatory lashings out: every single person here is ignorant on one thing or another (or, likely multiple things)- lashing out at folks does nothing to help educate, to help reduce ignorance.
Posted by: Seer | May 15 2022 17:14 utc | 381
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