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May 24, 2022

Flag Abuse And Other Bits On Ukraine

The Pentagon reports about the continuing efforts to sell new U.S. weapons to those nations which discard their old ones in Ukraine.

Austin Hosts Ukraine Defense Contact Group to Continue Support for Beleaguered Country

To express the seriousness of the situation in Ukraine the Pentagon decided to hoist Ukraine's blue-above-yellow flag upside down.


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Hanging a flag upside down is a sign of either dire distress or cultural ignorance. Given that this was a Pentagon event the later is the more likely to be the case.

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The Baltic nutters have a another great and of course completely impractical idea.

UK backs Lithuania’s plan to lift Russian blockade of Ukraine grain

Britain has backed in principle a proposal by Lithuania for a naval coalition “of the willing” to lift the Russian Black Sea blockade on Ukrainian grain exports.

The Lithuanian foreign minister, Gabrielius Landsbergis, proposed the plan during talks with the UK foreign secretary, Liz Truss, on Monday in London.

“Time is very very short. We are closing in on a new harvest and there is no other practical way of exporting the grain except through the Black Sea port of Odesa,” he told the Guardian. “There is no way of storing this grain and no other adequate alternative route. It is imperative that we show vulnerable countries we are prepared to take the steps that are needed to feed the world.”

Landsbergis proposed that a naval escort operation – not run by Nato – could protect the grain ships as they headed through the Black Sea and past Russian warships. He suggested that, apart from Britain, countries that were affected by the potential loss of grain such as Egypt could provide the necessary protection.
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He said Ukraine needed to export 80m tonnes of wheat alone this year and the only option was through Odesa.

Let me help Mr. Landsbergis with some facts:

  • The port of Odesa is blocked by Ukraine, not by Russia.
  • Ukraine does not have 80 million tons of wheat to export. In a good year the total grain production in Ukraine is 80 million tons. Some 50% of that is corn and some 40% wheat. Only two-third of that will be exported.
  • The Ukraine is currently exporting 1.5 million tons of grains per month. Most of that is going through Romania.
  • Given that this years planting did not go as planned the Ukraine will hardly have any wheat to export later this year.

Still some know-nothing falls for Landsbergis' scheme:

After meeting Landsbergis, Truss said the UK would want British naval ships to join the escort if the practicalities could be sorted, including demining the harbour and providing Ukraine with longer-range weapons to defend the harbour from Russian attack. The UK is in discussions with allies about the plan and it would probably need US agreement to be activated.

Truss said: “What we need to do is deal with this global food security issue and the UK is working on an urgent solution to get the grain out of Ukraine”.

The Ukraine is only number 5 of the largest wheat exporters with some 8% market share. Russia, the global wheat exporter no. 1, will have a record crop this year. The global food security issue is thereby a question of price and accessibility, not of the globally available quantity.

I find Liz Truss' point of "providing Ukraine with longer-range weapons to defend the harbour" quite interesting. Didn't the Ukraine claim that it hit the Russian ship Moskva with two Ukrainian made cruise missiles? If it really did so it already has the longer-range weapons to hit Russian ships. Is Truss leaking that the Ukraine lied about those missile hits?

The whole idea of sending an armed escort convoy and long range weapons is just nuts. What Ukraine would need are not only missiles but targeting data and radar with which that can be acquired. Unfortunately radar does emit electromagnetic waves which makes it detectable and vulnerable. Russia has already knocked out several radars in and around Odessa. What is Truss' plan to avoid that?

And don't get me going about Russia's submarines which are completely sufficient to sink anything in the Black Sea that Russia does not like to be there.

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Meanwhile the war is progressing in Russia's favor. I do not have time to show detailed maps of what is happening but there are two reasonable Youtube channels which provide good daily reports based on multiple sources. These are Military Summary and Defense Politics Aaaaasia.

In the north Lyman has fallen with reports of Ukrainian troops withdrawing after a short fight. In the east the Ukrainian held city Severodonetsk is mostly isolated and now under fierce attack. Several more towns around the Popasna bulge have been taken by the Russian side. South of it the city Svetlodarsk has fallen after the Ukrainian tried but failed to destroy a nearby dam. The Ukrainian troops retreated without a fight.

Instead of holding the lines by all means Ukrainian units now seem more interested in running away. That is more healthy for them and also solves their serious supply issues. Like other supply lines the Bakhmut-Lisichansk road is now under Russian fire control. This video shows what that means.

What we are seeing now are the effects of nearly three months of Russian artillery war. The Ukrainian troops at the frontline have been ground down and those who are left are moving out before being destroyed too. The front begins to move at several points. When those points merge we may next see the tactical deep battle phase of a classic Russian deep operation:

Deep battle envisaged the breaking of the enemy's forward defenses, or tactical zones, through combined arms assaults, which would be followed up by fresh uncommitted mobile operational reserves sent to exploit the strategic depth of an enemy front. The goal of a deep operation was to inflict a decisive strategic defeat on the enemy's logistical abilities and render the defence of their front more difficult, impossible, or indeed irrelevant. Unlike most other doctrines, deep battle stressed combined arms cooperation at all levels: strategic, operational, and tactical.
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It feels insane when Henry Kissing er is the only sane man in the room.

Henry Kissinger: Ukraine must give Russia territory

Veteran US statesman Henry Kissinger has urged the West to stop trying to inflict a crushing defeat on Russian forces in Ukraine, warning that it would have disastrous consequences for the long term stability of Europe.

The former US secretary of state and architect of the Cold War rapprochement between the US and China told a gathering in Davos that it would be fatal for the West to get swept up in the mood of the moment and forget the proper place of Russia in the European balance of power.

Dr Kissinger said the war must not be allowed to drag on for much longer, and came close to calling on the West to bully Ukraine into accepting negotiations on terms that fall very far short of its current war aims.
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He told the World Economic Forum that Russia had been an essential part of Europe for 400 years and had been the guarantor of the European balance of power structure at critical times. European leaders should not lose sight of the longer term relationship, and nor should they risk pushing Russia into a permanent alliance with China.

It is likely too late to reverse the Russia-China alliance but I otherwise agree.

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"They are being used. MoD put up a video of one battery that they targeted and supposedly destroyed though total destruction was not clear in the video. I read elsewhere that Russia used its 8" guns with 50k range to take out the M777's which has 40k range with excalibur"

https://youtu.be/RCG6FtMvPg0

Posted by: nook | May 24 2022 18:31 utc | 101

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 17:26 utc | 71

"So, when it comes to such ordinary rituals as proper flag etiquette and protocols, I'd say the staff tasked with arranging the flags didn't know any better aside from the need for the flags to all hang similarly."

That's even worse than if they were sending a signal, though as someone pointed out elsewhere the reversed colors is how the Azovians hang them so most likely that's why they were hung that way. Letting the Azovians do that in Ukraine means there is no military pride in Ukraine itself otherwise that would not have been permitted. That essentially means that Ukraine is not a real State (which is true, it's a kinda-sorta-Anglo-Zionist construct).

But if this WAS a mistake as you say, then the fact it happened with SECDEF and Army Chief on deck doesn't so much signal the demise of Ukraine as that of the entire US military and nation.

Either way, a mixed signal was sent and none of the signals look good for either Ukraine or US.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 18:37 utc | 102

@Undercutter | May 24 2022 17:50 utc | 79

Watching that video made me realize just how civilized the Russians are.
I don't have the link at hand, but did any of you guys see the video from one of the Telegram channels where the Nazis of Azovstahl were surrendering their weapons, and then each and every one received a hand-shake from a Russian officer accepting them as prisoners? That was pretty civilized!

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2022 18:37 utc | 103

I have no objection to the Ukraine flag being displayed upside down. What is increasingly disturbing is that the Pentagon refuses to display the US flag inverted. Where does the U.S. military get their intelligence from - The New York Times? CNN? The Guardian? Tik-Tok?

FFS - We're not a subsidiary of NATO. The U.S. Constitution is dying here, Austin. Do you God damn job for a change or we'll hire the Poles to do it for you. The Polish Zloty is crashing harder than the Ukraine Hryvnia. We could save... oh, $40 billion or so.

Posted by: PavewayIV | May 24 2022 18:39 utc | 104

Scorpion @88--

Thanks for your reply. You wrote:

Good catch. I suspect that for the US the main thing is to use troubles to garner MIC profits and then leverage insecurity into long-term debt obligations. Once the conflict has achieved that what then happens on the ground is no longer important.

Yes, that's a good paraphrasal of what Hudson informs us in his Super Imperialism.

As for the vision of the Multipolar versus Unipolar Worlds, there's the vision held and articulated by China, Russia, and the Global South which is of a multipolar, multilateral world based on the International Law laid down in the UN Charter and associated international treaties. The other vision is that articulated by the WEF, the US State, Treasury and Defense Departments and by their associates in the UK, all of which is based on the falsity of Zero-sumism that there can only be one winner, which is similar in vein to the idea that one animal is superior to all others--Equal but Above because Exceptional. In the talk Lavrov gave, he discusses that aspect of the West's dominance over the last several centuries that's now ending in which the West is fighting to preserve what it's losing. An excellent example of future global cooperation that's happening now is the ASEAN, which has become very successful because of its multilateral inclusion of all with discrimination towards none.

The ironic aspect of the current situation IMO is that China and Russia have become better Liberals than any remaining Liberals in the West, and that infuriates those that once proclaimed themselves better than all because of their Liberality. Recall Putin's interview with The Financial Times several years ago where he proclaimed the current version of Liberalism defunct because of the West's own behavior in destroying it, a thesis that shocked the interviewers into a stupor, with the interview ending soon afterwards. As I wrote @92, the Neoliberal West is destroying itself while Russia, China and the rest of the world watches in amazement.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 18:43 utc | 105

"so you think the war is a fraud. note, the war could not be real if the US, as you claim, wants a multipolar world."

Posted by: pretzelattack | May 24 2022 18:28 utc | 97

Depends what is meant by "US" and what it is those running US actually intend. My operating assumption is that along with having been largely captured by 'special interests' decades ago of late they have become so brazen that they essentially overturned an election and installed their puppet. Assuming that the Biden White House is an Executive like all others trying to do their best for America is a bit of a stretch at this point. But I assume that's what you mean by 'US,' no?

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 18:49 utc | 106

nook | May 24 2022 18:31 utc | 99

That's the one. Naval guns on a tracked chassis.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 24 2022 18:53 utc | 107

"And don't get me going about Russia's submarines which are completely sufficient to sink anything in the Black Sea that Russia does not like to be there."

You're forgetting the Russian Black Sea coast Bastion missiles which have already been used to attack Ukraine a number of times. That's what they're there for - to sink NATO sinks.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 24 2022 19:01 utc | 108

I've posted the entire translated transcript of Putin's meeting on the transport complex to the week in review thread so those interested can read what's being planned and why.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 19:06 utc | 109

Posted by: Kim | May 24 2022 14:51 utc | 19
"Personal opinions should be respected wether right or wrong."

Unless they're mine, of course.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 24 2022 19:06 utc | 110

Defective Ukrainian machine guns causing desertions

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/12885

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2022 19:07 utc | 111

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2022 15:37 utc | 37
"Other than that, the Ritter question has been overcooked, time to move on."

Agreed. I've certainly obviously wasted my time.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 24 2022 19:11 utc | 112

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 18:43 utc | 103

"The ironic aspect of the current situation IMO is that China and Russia have become better Liberals than any remaining Liberals in the West...Putin's interview with The Financial Times several years ago where he proclaimed the current version of Liberalism defunct because of the West's own behavior in destroying it...
As I wrote @92, the Neoliberal West is destroying itself while Russia, China and the rest of the world watches in amazement."

I must say that for years now I've felt exactly this: that Russia as articulated by Putin and Lavrov (to be fair pretty much the only two I ever read speeches of in English) better represents high liberal/Western/European principles than any of 'our' bunch so for a long time now I've been rooting for Russia to succeed in her multipolar endeavor.

However, of late have become concerned. I watched a quantum physicist a while back explain how reality is multi-layered. Take a cell phone: you have the physical components: case, chips, screen etc. Then there is the software: pictures, sounds, GUI interface; then you have electrical flows; then there is content meaning: speech, movies, games, MoA comments and so forth. Each level knows little or nothing about the other and yet all are needed for the experience of laughing at a joke a comedian makes on a broadcast displayed on the screen.

Similarly, along with diplomatic channels, trade flows, military movements, global weather and so forth, there is also a shared technology involving digital communications and the 'internet of things' wherein all electrical devices are wired into over-arching interconnected surveillance networks.

This technology is quintessentially centralizing because it is so interconnected and ubiquitous. So although on one level we may have a world order with independent sovereign states, on another we will have a One World Order with all money and identification being digital, all transactions being monitored and/or controllable by this universal technology. Yes, there will be individual passwords and no doubt national firewalls as well, but all such things are transparent to those with higher-level keys or access.

I read that one of the Rothschild bankers said decades ago that if he controlled the currency he controlled a nation. The new digital currency will be no different except that it exists in cyberspace which, ultimately, knows no local - including national - jurisdictions. Even if there are ostensible different currency units, the entire matrix in which any transactions take place and are recorded will constitute a One World Order.

That is what gives pause. Now perhaps Russia knows this and is soft selling us; or perhaps Russia hasn't quite thought this through and is sincere in offering the entire world a leg up. Either way, though, without a very complete analysis of these new systems and how there can be checks and balances, I have to assume that something more nefarious than beneficial is in the works, otherwise they would be explaining these things and also asking for input, encouraging discussion. No, the process of developing this new world system is elite driven and opaque. Therefore I suggest that the system itself will be elite-driven and opaque because it will be the child of the process which has birthed it.

Hmmm, an elite-driven, opaque, universal system linking personal ID with the only available currency. What could go wrong?

Anything which doesn't address potential corruption in a highly centralized system involving groups small or large fails the smell test. Am willing to come along, but what I've seen so far is messianic rhetoric and am not yet ready to regard it as anything other than yet more hopium.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 19:13 utc | 113

poland - regarding the cheap and crazy talk of poland sending troops to ukraine... until the russian mod announces this, i call this some jive ass bullshit...

@ karlof1.. thanks for your comments on flag protocol... interesting and informative..

@ Perimetr | May 24 2022 17:13 utc | 63 - quote -

"In my opinion, unless the US backs down, this makes a US/NATO-Russian war inevitable." what do you think this is right here, right now?? some kind of side show?

@ Butties | May 24 2022 17:59 utc | 82

i like craig murray and a lot of his work, but he really falls down on the topic of all things russian and russia... he is essentially irrelevant on this topic.

@ nook | May 24 2022 18:01 utc | 83

unfortunately turkey is open to the highest bidder... anything is possible with turkey and they will play off sides against each other.. they can't seem to rise above this juvenile level and don't seem to stand for much of anything.... although they aren't as bad as the country i live in - canada! at the moment they are much more strategically located though...

Posted by: james | May 24 2022 19:13 utc | 114

james | May 24 2022 19:13 utc | 112

Russian MoD has honesty and integrity. For that reason sometimes they say nothing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 24 2022 19:18 utc | 115

Flags have deep symbolism. Blue over yellow is the sky over fields of wheat and sunflowers, Yellow over blue is for those crops sailing over blue seas (i.e. getting out of the Black Sea, and crossing through the Red Sea and sailing over the blue waters all the way to the customers on the shores of Yellow Sea. And it is major concern of many countries, like USA, that those crops do not sail. In other words, the flags were there to symbolically stress the main point of that day.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 24 2022 19:21 utc | 116

@karlov1 PS

At this point I listen to Russia respectfully and give them the benefit of the doubt because they have earned it. My reservations are pretty much on principle because not enough has been spelled out viz. either how multipolarity would work in practice and ditto for the new digital currencies and ID systems now about to be rolled out in most developed nations world wide.

So am open to it all being a great leap forward.
But will not be surprised if it ends up being a world wide totalitarian putsch.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 19:22 utc | 117

@ Peter AU1 | May 24 2022 19:18 utc | 113

well nothing is way better then something that is full of shite, or conjecture... but notice how much talk it generates regardless? it makes a person admire those who say little or nothing!

Posted by: james | May 24 2022 19:23 utc | 118

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 17:10 utc | 61

Available at The Saker in English.

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks and answers to questions during a meeting with the New Horizons educational marathon participants
https://thesaker.is/foreign-minister-sergey-lavrovs-remarks-and-answers-to-questions-during-a-meeting-with-the-new-horizons-educational-marathon-participants/

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 24 2022 19:30 utc | 119

It is likely too late to reverse the Russia-China alliance

The worst thing to come out of this will be the conviction from those who currently benefit and think they currently benefit (The upper middle classes and up) from the current social/economic dictums of the West that the things that make us weak, neoliberalism and associated social policies, make us strong since their rejection to varying degrees of these individualistic policies that dissolve nations are the true sins of Russia and China in their eyes.

Similar to how the US rejected every sensible policy from post-war European social democracy as 'socialism' and 'communism'.

Posted by: Altai | May 24 2022 19:31 utc | 120

james | May 24 2022 19:23 utc | 116

At Azovstal there was much negotiation between Russia and the rats in the hole. Kadyrov deleted a big fish telegram post. An armoured vehicle whisked away some un-photographed fish.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 24 2022 19:33 utc | 121

This one offers room for baseless speculation 😎

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/13645
Here the CIA added two stars to its wall with the dead heroes of the office. Interestingly, this happened simultaneously with the fall of Azovstal. No names are indicated, Americans bury their own anonymously.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 24 2022 19:33 utc | 122

Very different emotional tone in the Kiev Guardian than a few weeks ago.

'The UK’s ministry of defence said Russia has increased the intensity of its operations in the Donbas as it seeks to encircle Severodonetsk, Lyschansk, and Rubizhne in order to place the whole of Luhansk oblast under Russian occupation....

Russia’s military campaign in Ukraine has entered its most active phase, according to Ukraine’s defence ministry spokesperson, Oleksandr Motuzyanyk.

Russian forces are trying to encircle Ukrainian troops in two cities straddling the Siverskyi Donets river in eastern Ukraine – Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk.

Here’s a bit more detail from Ukraine’s defence ministry spokesperson, Oleksandr Motuzyanyk, who said battles being fought in eastern Ukraine could determine the country’s fate.

During a televised briefing, Motuzyanyk said:

Now we are observing the most active phase of the full-scale aggression which Russia unfolded against our country.
The situation on the (eastern) front is extremely difficult, because the fate of this country is perhaps being decided (there) right now.'

The Ukrainians seem to be, for the first time, understanding that if they lose these key battles (and they will) they will have lost the war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/may/24/russia-ukraine-war-updates-moscow-to-deepen-ties-with-china-lavrov-says-west-pledges-to-send-more-advanced-weapons-to-ukraine-live

Posted by: Hidari | May 24 2022 19:35 utc | 123

Scorpion @111--

I understand your POV, and it's been directly discussed by Putin, Lavrov and others in their efforts to convene a conference on just that issue at the UN dealing with all things Cyber, which would include digital currencies and their security. Unfortunately, their efforts have been opposed by the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals consistently over the past decade since the need for such a conference was recognized. The reason for the Empire's opposition is well understood--it doesn't want to conform to a global consensus on anything but wants to make its own rules that serve only its interests at all times: 100% Unipolarity. Do recall what I cited @48 above:

"For the US, nothing can override its interests."

And its interests are not ours or those of humanity. The cyber world is akin to the Wild West, and the Empire wants it to remain that way so it can commit all the crimes it needs to in its attempt to remain King of the Mountain.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 19:36 utc | 124

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2022 16:46 utc | 55

It takes a lot to make Kissinger look good and reasonable

Nixon was the last good USA President. And, he sucked big time.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 24 2022 19:37 utc | 125

Isn't majority of the Ukrainian wheat winter wheat? Therefore, it was already planted last fall.
Harvesting it, is a different story. And of course, corn is another issue altogether.

Posted by: Ivan | May 24 2022 19:40 utc | 126

Folding the flag means taking care of the nation.
Folding the flag is putting it to bed for the night.
I fell through a hole in the flag
I'm falling through a hole in the flag
Help!

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 24 2022 19:47 utc | 127

Altai @118--

Thanks for your observation. This op/ed, "'Our hemisphere' vs 'Nuestra America': US facing boycott from Latin neighbors" points to yet another example of Outlaw US Empire policies resulting in the opposite of their intent where the writer correctly concludes:

"The US has put itself at an impasse where it can either continue to antagonize Latin America and the Caribbean, seeing it, as it has since the Monroe Doctrine, as its playground – or risk being blacklisted from the American community altogether."

The fantastical irony is the Outlaw US Empire could have helped all of its neighbors develop instead of forcing them to accept domination by US Corporations. It could now have its own version of BRI from North to South in the Western Hemisphere but Imperial, Exceptional thinking led it to the current impasse and lack of any positive future expectations unless it violently reverses its centuries old practice and truly becomes a Good Neighbor.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 19:47 utc | 128

Karlof1 71--flag etiquette

Your father-in-law's funeral was likely handled by a local guard unit or sometimes even local VFW's. A color guard's performance is a direct reflection of the training officer/XO or commander of that rag tag unit...mileage may vary.

The protocol officers that would oversee the stage setting for the press conference ARE NOT prone to making mistakes like that, this is absolutely on purpose. The most minute details are micromanaged on a level you can't imagine when the SecDef or equivalent is taking part...because it's absolutely a career ender if you f up. Attention to detail for protocol officers at this level is insane. It was 100% directed from above their pay grade.

Posted by: FormerMilitary | May 24 2022 19:48 utc | 129

Intel Slava Z

🇵🇱🇩🇪⚡The President of Poland accused Germany of disrupting the supply of Leopard tanks to Warsaw to replace the equipment that the Poles gave to Kyiv: “Such a promise was made, but not fulfilled”

Aparently Poland is being de-militarized.

Posted by: jared | May 24 2022 19:50 utc | 130

A "quick update" from Andrei of the Saker, fter some time off:

Sadly, most of what we discovered (at least I did) is that the West is far more evil, hypocritical and, frankly suicidally stupid then I ever imagined. Now if you want to call me blind, naive, stupid, pollyannaish or delusional – fine, I will plead guilty as charged: even in my worst nightmares I did not expect such level of truly demonic evil. I have been saying that the AngloZionist Empire and Russia were locked into an existential war since at least 2013, but I did not expect that the Empire would be hateful and stupid enough to choose to hurt itself much, much more than it would every hurt Russia. Now I see that Bertolt Brecht was absolutely correct: “The belly is still fertile from which the foul beast sprang” and Russia will have to denazify not only the Ukraine (which will break up, also exactly as I predicted many years ago), but also the entire West and that means that the entire planet. I am totally confident that she will succeed, by the way, as many Russians say “we need to truly finish WWII“.

https://thesaker.is/quick-update-from-andrei-on-this-and-that/

I share his perception of Western depravity: exceeding the worst we could imagine. I also plead guilty to having been "blind, naive, stupid, pollyannaish or delusional" in my previous expectations.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 24 2022 20:04 utc | 131

I know that it's possible for ships to sail from Rotterdam to the Black Sea using a series of canals and then the Danube. I wonder what limit there is on the size of ships doing this.

(Maybe what put this idea in my head was that I knew that what at least used to be the longest word in German is or was Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitaen.)

Posted by: Lysias | May 24 2022 20:05 utc | 132

Why would Kissinger think the 'West' (cough, cough) would be willing to bully Ukraine into suing Russia for peace when they have been wholeheartedly bullying them to fight Russia to the last Ukranian?

Posted by: Vincent Berg | May 24 2022 20:09 utc | 133

UZ @ 34; Just started reading, but very perceptive post..Think you nailed it....

Posted by: vetinLA | May 24 2022 20:14 utc | 134

Maize/corn is an important part of the Romanian diet. "Mamaliga", corn mush is called.

Posted by: Lysias | May 24 2022 20:14 utc | 135

Posted by: jared | May 24 2022 19:50 utc | 128

The more EU nations get involved in this the better. Everything they do involves endless jaw-jawing. By the time they finish debating how when and where to place their piss pots they will turn around to find out that they don't have one left to piss in!

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 20:14 utc | 136

@various

re: M777 blah blah Excalibur blah blah

It's an artillery shell with the performance of a rocket, only more expensive because they're putting every trick in the book into a small diameter to obtain the range which would come easily to a rocket with a 30-50% larger diameter.

So the straightforward answer was always just that, the next size of rocket ammunition, which is an established item. The situation may call for the guided projectile upgrade, nothing shocking there.

https://nitter.net/200_zoka/status/1529184329355649024

Posted by: ptb | May 24 2022 20:14 utc | 137

Shoigu on the pace of the operation and mercenaries, as reported by Ria Novosti (GoogleTransl)

MOSCOW, May 24 - RIA Novosti. Russia is deliberately slowing down the pace of the special operation in Ukraine in order to allow evacuation and avoid civilian casualties, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said,
"For residents to leave the surrounded settlements, silence regimes are announced and humanitarian corridors are being created," he said at a meeting of the Council of Heads of the CSTO Defense Ministry.
Russian troops, unlike the Armed Forces of Ukraine, do not strike at civilian infrastructure where civilians may be. The firing positions and military facilities of the enemy are hit with the help of high-precision weapons, the general stressed.
He also drew attention to the fact that Western countries, fearing the defeat of Ukrainian troops, urgently organized the supply of lethal weapons to the country. According to him, military advisers and employees of private military companies are sent there, and the number of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine has already exceeded six thousand people

Posted by: JB | May 24 2022 20:18 utc | 138

"...Political entities decay when their meritocracies (assuming they ever had them) are eroded in favor of dynasties and advancement on the basis of country club- and bedroom-style connections. That's how we end up with Blinkens, Bushes, and La Clinton.." malenkov@78
Trudeau and Johnson are just begging to be added to that list.

re karlofi: I too, greatly appreciate the time and energy that you put into providing information. I am sure that almost all people who read this blog would agree.

re Craig Murray. The authority that attracts people to follow his blog is derived from his years working for an institution that is not only near to the centre of Hell but has been there for much longer than any city in north America. And he is not shy about hinting at the fact.

Such authority is a two edged sword: on the one hand it does mean that Craig knows his way around the diplomatic arena. On the other hand he came upon this knowledge as an ambitious and hard working member of an institution whose primary purpose was to show Washington that it still had much to offer in the way of buttressing the drunken hegemon's declining edifice.

Craig wasn't sent as British Ambassador to Uzbekistan without reason: Uzbekistan was a key central Asian state, which then, as now, has the capacity to bother both Russia and China no end. Anyone who understand British foreign policy knows that while the rise of the Soviet Union was not welcomed by the British the policy of opposing Russian interests was tried and true in the C18th. That was what The Great Game was all about.
Murray, while obviously principled and honest in his convictions, is a life long anti-communist with connections, I suspect, to the faux Trotskyist school of British Liberalism which in the late sixties was the majority faction in the Young Liberal party.

As to International Law in which Murray appears indeed to be an expert, it is a dead letter so far as relations between the US/NATO and Russia are concerned. Ironically it has been Russia which for years has been urging compliance with International Law, in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya and dozens of other places in which the US has excused itself from compliance with either rules, precedents or solemn Treaties. On fact the situation in Ukraine is one in which dozens of agreements, treaties and undertakings have been cavalierly waived by NATO and its slime covered Banderite creature.

The view most here share, which is that of the governments representing 80% of the species, is that Russia had no alternative but to intervene militarily to put an end to a genocidal campaign eight years old and showing alarming signs of being accelerated dangerously. The lives of millions of entirely innocent people were at risk and there was no sign that NATO would take any measures to bring the Ukrainian Nazis under control or moderate their actions.

On the contrary it has now become clear that the Nazi militias were trained militarily by British, American, Canadian and Polish instructors, who transformed the sweepings of the international network of hooligans, skinheads and neo-nazis from sadistic wankers into warriors- of a sort.

For the Russian government and the people of Russia who understood that Ukraine had been presented, by the US, to political extremists who believe that Russians are sub-human and that killing them is of no more account than trapping rats, the spectacle of the suffering in the Donbas, and far beyond it across Ukraine, was unbearable.
Those who called for Regime Change in Russia are blissfully unaware of how close they came to bringing it about by refusing to take seriously the diplomatic initiatives proffered by Lavrov and Putin. My guess is that, had Russia not taken action on February 24th and had she allowed Ukraine, under the aegis of NATO, to expose itself by launching a shock and awe style assault on the Peoples Republics the Kremlin would have been overwhelmed by a furious populace and a frustrated military insisting upon war.

None of this is, of course, new to Mr Murray. These are facts that the whole world understands- there is nothing legitimate about the Kiev regime and this has been clear for eight years. It has blood on its hands in the form of several openly advertised crimes such as the Odessa massacre and, more recently, the Bucha murders. It agents are without question throwbacks to the Ukrainian Nazis whose sadism earned them the contempt not only of the Wehrmacht but of the Waffen SS too. They are creatures from the Chamber of Horrors.
All of this is quite clear to anyone with enough brains and information to know better than to believe the rubbish in the media. And Mr Murray is one of them.

In the circumstances it seems to me that he has, as the very least, the duty of allowing responses to the anti-Russian , pro-fascist propaganda that he hosts in his comments. Of course by his duty I refer only to his duty to himself if he values a reputation that he very recently burnished greatly by the dignity with which he suffered the disgraceful persecution which led to his being incarcerated at a time when going to prison, in a pandemic, involved considerable personal danger.

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2022 20:19 utc | 139

That is Future Prime Minister Truss that we are talking about.

The Tory gene pool keeps getting shallower and shallower. And you thought BoJoke was only a centimeter deep, wait till you meet Liz ... the Next Margaret Thatcher of course, at least in her own mind. Just like BoJoke was the Next Winston Churchill, at least in his own mind.

Posted by: Lord Edgeware | May 24 2022 20:20 utc | 140

Posted by: Lysias | May 24 2022 20:05 utc | 130

You mean by the Rhine–Main–Danube Canal
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine%E2%80%93Main%E2%80%93Danube_Canal :
The channel is a Waterway Class Vb; the largest authorised vessel is 190 metres (620 ft) long and 11.45 metres (37.6 ft) wide.

Also, you can prolong the word: Donaudampfschifffarhtgesellschaftskapitaensmuetzenknopf

Posted by: Anonymous | May 24 2022 20:23 utc | 141

Btw, the Flag of Ukraine Wikipedia page mentions the yellow-above-blue flag too, seems it has been used as the flag of the Ukrainian People's Republic (1917–1918).

Posted by: zet | May 24 2022 20:28 utc | 142

@ Lysias | May 24 2022 20:05 utc | 130

i had to look up that long word in german... it translates into 4 words in english... these german folks need to learn how to take a breath!

Danube Steamship Company Captains

Posted by: james | May 24 2022 20:29 utc | 143

to bevin | May 24 2022 20:19 utc | 137

nice write up. bevin. very good.
thanks, especially for this reminder of what the outlaw US, and its lethal sidekick Nato, have gotten away with since, well, at least since WWII

".....As to International Law in which Murray appears indeed to be an expert, it is a dead letter so far as relations between the US/NATO and Russia are concerned. Ironically it has been Russia which for years has been urging compliance with International Law, in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya and dozens of other places in which the US has excused itself from compliance with either rules, precedents or solemn Treaties. On fact the situation in Ukraine is one in which dozens of agreements, treaties and undertakings have been cavalierly waived by NATO and its slime covered Banderite creature...."

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2022 20:34 utc | 144

Scorpion at 100 "But if this WAS a mistake as you say, then the fact it happened with SECDEF and Army Chief on deck doesn't so much signal the demise of Ukraine as that of the entire US military and nation."

Incorrect. That is the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, and the Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen Milley. I have no idea who the woman is.

Posted by: Helen | May 24 2022 20:37 utc | 145

Ursula van der Lugen's WEF bloviating lies are consistent with a mid-life crisis woman who has not received a good "long experience" in decades. So, this may be endemic among all these recently placed women in various EU leadership roles and we all may be in more danger than we forsee: 100,000 years of pent-up women's anger against men coming full circle?

Posted by: Ursula van der Lugen | May 24 2022 20:40 utc | 146

Somewhat off-topic question, but I am having tremendous difficulty finding something that I used to be able to find with a simple search.

I'm trying to get a list of all the U.S. interventions and such that the NYT has sold to the American public or supported.

Can anyone help?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 24 2022 20:43 utc | 147

20 may:  Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs adviser Anton Geraschchenko “Deliveries of powerful anti-ship weapons (Harpoon and Naval Strike Missile with a range of 250-300 km) are being discussed"

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby, asked about this at the briefing Friday, was adamant: “I can tell you definitively that that’s not true.”

23 may: Denmark Sending Ukraine Anti-Ship Harpoon Missiles To Take on Russian Ships in Black Sea

Posted by: Passerby | May 24 2022 20:43 utc | 148

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 19:36 utc | 122

"And its interests are not ours or those of humanity. The cyber world is akin to the Wild West, and the Empire wants it to remain that way so it can commit all the crimes it needs to in its attempt to remain King of the Mountain."

First, thank you as always for all your posts, replies etc.

The UN etc. make me nervous. It's just another layer above national sovereignty, more bureaucracy, another organ which can be manipulated (like the Chinese with WHO etc.). I love the principles expressed behind it all but the practice leaves much to be desired. There only needs to be a 1-2 page charter which all countries who wish to trade with each other follow; if not, they lose trading privileges or some such. (And even that is fraught with potential abuse.) One world institutions? I say get rid of them all!

But as regards the Wild West business, my guess is that the US wants to keep surveilling all and everything on the internet without any restriction. If that's what you mean by Wild West, then okay. That said, by its nature it connects everywhere there is electricity. (Did you know, for example, that one way to bring internet to rural people - there are still millions in US without it I believe, or there were only 10 years ago - is simply to use the electrical grid; no need for a separate delivery medium.) But they like dividing things up, subcontracting, privatizing and whatever so they can contain and control. I don't think of containing and controlling as Wild West, quite the opposite.

Same with energy alternatives. They don't want hydrogen extracted from water because we all have access to water and so they cannot control its flow properly. Just like with marijuana most likely: it's a weed so any idiot can grow it if made legal and they wouldn't be able to control its flow and usage tax revenue therefrom. Gas is taxed every yard you drive as is all metered power.

So they want an internet whose flow, usage and content can be controlled, taxed and monitored. At least that's my guess.

But my objection isn't just to bad actors: it's the all-pervasive nature of the technology itself (especially if biochips are implanted in all of us) which is going to create a form of techno-fascism unless it is intelligently dealt with including having ways to stop bad actors in their tracks which am extremely doubtful can realistically happen. For one thing, there are always bad actors and more importantly for another, any system that has access to every single person and institution in the world is going to be Target #1 for every bad actor everywhere.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong. And maybe the super-smart cyber-experts in Russia have answers to this. If they do, Eurasia should go ahead and set up a second internet ASAP.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 20:49 utc | 149

FormerMilitary @127--

Thanks much for your reply. Being former military, I concur with your assessment. The Flag Detail were regular Army from Fort Benning, a Spc-4 and PFC.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 20:52 utc | 150

Posted by: Helen | May 24 2022 20:37 utc | 143


Yes, I got Milley's title wrong and was too lazy to look it up. My bad. There's something about that man who looks like a cross between a pineapple and a potato that sticks in my craw and makes me forget acronyms!

(In any case, my point was a fair one: however those flags were done was scrutinized thricely. On the symbolic level all those mixed messages clearly communicates a state of leadership in confusion which in military context is basically the same as defeat.

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 20:55 utc | 151

Parte de guerra 24/05/2022 – informe especial

great overview and up to date, but you have to use the translate to read it all...

Posted by: james | May 24 2022 20:55 utc | 152

The protocol officers that would oversee the stage setting for the press conference ARE NOT prone to making mistakes like that, this is absolutely on purpose. The most minute details are micromanaged on a level you can't imagine when the SecDef or equivalent is taking part...because it's absolutely a career ender if you f up. Attention to detail for protocol officers at this level is insane. It was 100% directed from above their pay grade.

Posted by: FormerMilitary | May 24 2022 19:48 utc | 127

Having served in the E Ring and as special duty driver for two former JCOS, I concurrrrr!

Posted by: ERing46Z | May 24 2022 20:57 utc | 153

There is not a shred of kindness to Kissinger's words. He just knows that China is the US biggest rival and not Russia. Kissinger is the kind of person that proves that karma doesn't exist because if it did he would have suffered a violent death before most of us would have been born. One of his famous quotes back in the days to a general who was hesitant to send in troops as canon fodder: "military men are dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy".

Posted by: xor | May 24 2022 20:57 utc | 154

@ Perimetr 63

Personally, I never took Scott Ritter as seriously as the majority of the commentariat appears to have. He did say some interesting things, but this reminded me much of General Flynn who even worked for RT but turned out to have been on an intelligence assignment when doing so. Whether someone leaned on Ritter or he was always on an assignment matters very little to me.

Yet, the fact that he just discovered that US plans have changed from defending Ukraine to badly hurting Russia is the apex of stupidity of either Ritter or of his audience. Pouring billions and billions of dollars into Ukraine since the time of the first colour revolution in this unfortunate country and Yushenko was for what purpose? The famous US generosity? Honestly, even in the complete deluge of Western stupidities caused by the DECLINE OF EVERYTHING IN THE WEST the Ritter’s clarification after his “change of heart” that Perimiter quotes above stands out. See, the US is now really pissed and is really taking the gloves off. It us only now that the US has as the goal the demise of Russia.

In reality, with NATO troops who would run like rabbits in any conflict against highly organised Russian military and after discovering the extremely dumb Ukrainian grifters (who learned absolutely nothing from the Georgian experience), the Raytheon negro just had a moment of clarity the supposedly changed goal.

In conclusion, yet another $40B or whatever small percentage of that riches Ukraine will make a bit of difference but not as much as people impressed by large numbers expect. And the US idiots like Ritter should stop the totally meaningless comparison of $40B to the Russian military budget, because even during the best of Western times the Russians spent their budget at least 5X more efficiently, mostly because of very low graft not because of PPP. At the current deep stage of decline of the West, this is probably at least 10x.

Posted by: Kiza | May 24 2022 20:59 utc | 155

There is much comic speculation about the relationship between the Flag of Ukraine and the Diversity Flag. Firstly, what colours have been excluded and why; secondly, what blue + yellow identify you as. So if you turn it upside down there are further implications...

Seriously though, Truss cannot distinguish the Baltic Sea from the Black and declared "Rostov shall never be part of Russia!". And isn't a 'humanitarian mission' code for covert military intervention?

But we all know this. And Kissinger? Well duh Hal.

Posted by: Patroklos | May 24 2022 21:01 utc | 156

Flags... Jesus... Slow news day...

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 24 2022 21:08 utc | 157

Although there were many past incidents where the US have incorrectly "mistreated" a foreign nation's flag, this incident involving the Ukrainian flag was intentional.

Posted by: Ian2 | May 24 2022 21:18 utc | 158

The U.S. Constitution is dying here, Austin.

PavewayIV | May 24 2022 18:39 utc | 102:

Ah...it's been dead for some time IMHO. By the way, welcome back. I always enjoyed reading your comments.

Posted by: Ian2 | May 24 2022 21:23 utc | 159

fyi, an interesting comment from Lavrov


https://twitter.com/SNMilitary/status/1528867810709241856
MI NEWS @SNMilitary

"Those who seek Russia's defeat 'on the battlefield' probably had a poor education, don't know history very well and do not understand what Russia is" - Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov

5:37 PM · May 23, 2022

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2022 21:24 utc | 160

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 24 2022 21:24 utc | 158

That's essentially echoing what Martyanov says: Russia has been grinding down enemy armies for 800 years out of the last 1200. They are the best in the world at it. They've had General Staffs longer than anyone except maybe China (maybe India, I don't know history that will.) The US has been at it for 200 years at best - and as Martyanov says, they've lost most of their wars and have never fought in direct defense of their country, despite all the rhetoric.

Don't argue with me; go argue with Martyanov.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 24 2022 21:29 utc | 161

Scorpion @147--

There exists a very long--centuries--backstory providing the foundation for the history being made now that takes a lifetime to learn about since it's not all taught--in fact, much is obscured at Western Universities--and that includes the history behind the UN's formation since the principles it makes paramount are not those that were being practiced by the USA prior to WW2. I refer you to this essay written a bit over 3 years ago that details how the USA approached the subject of sovereignty until the UN Charter forced it to conform to a norm agreed upon by the International Community--although that didn't prevent the Outlaw US Empire from its violation which began the day the UN Charter become globally empowered--24 October 1945.

As you'll read, US policy was unilateral and had been since 4 July 1776. Just as it was custom for the federal government to ignore its legally binding treaties with Native Americans, it decided to do the same most everywhere else, fashioning its own set of "rules" for itself as it went. The point is that it's not that the UN Charter is weak or wrong; it's that the Outlaw US Empire continued its usual policy methods after it signed a document that demanded it stop those policy methods. The Outlaw US Empire refused at first informally then in 1947 it refused formally with the passing of the National Security Act. All differences related to UN Charter interpretations that went against what the USA said were chalked up to Cold War Communist meddling, which soon became cover for all Outlaw US Empire crimes committed prior to the USSR's dissolution.

The great mass of nations knows the UN is a flawed organization, but they also know why. As Hudson notes, up until very recently, that great mass of nations never had enough organized strength to challenge the Outlaw US Empire, which is why it's had its way since 1918 (do read any edition of his Super Imperialism for the post wars facts of the matter). The great mass now has that oomph and the moral high ground, which enabled Putin to say the days of the Empire's destructive dominance are ending and will be replaced by a new, just order that was supposed to occur in 1945--Back to the Future.

Once the collective world cleanses the UN of the corruption caused by the Outlaw US Empire, it can begin to function as designed--and as modified since the UN's resurrection will require greater inclusion and democracy, both of which are championed by Russia and China. The problem of course is that this needed change isn't going to happen overnight but will require several years of hard work even without the Empire's corruptive influence.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 21:34 utc | 162

Helen | May 24 2022 20:37 utc | 143
I have no idea who the woman is

She is Laura Cooper, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia

Posted by: dan of steele | May 24 2022 21:43 utc | 163

This retired reserve lieutenant commander has been nearly 30 years out of the military, but I suspect the introduction of woke ideology and vaccine mandates have destroyed military morale.

Posted by: Lysias | May 24 2022 21:46 utc | 164

Laura Cooper's DOD biography does not indicate she spent a day in the military, nor that she has studied a single one of the languages in the area that she is supposed to be Assistant Secretary of Defense for.

Posted by: Lysias | May 24 2022 21:52 utc | 165

Correction: Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense.

Posted by: Lysias | May 24 2022 21:56 utc | 166

I think Turkey will have something to say regarding naval vessels entering the Bosphorous.

Posted by: G | May 24 2022 21:58 utc | 167

Read you from Russia. It is really interesting to me how you analyze situation, because I have an opportunity to compare with our media and main reporters.

Posted by: Selenia | May 24 2022 22:00 utc | 168

@144 Hi Ursula. Lack of "long experience" is one possible explanation. I think it has something to do with glass ceilings, equality, and pictures of Putin without his shirt. Actually all it proves is that women can be as stupid as men.

Posted by: dh | May 24 2022 22:00 utc | 169

Ukraine: The Collapse of the Western Narrative - Roger Boyd

and @ roger.. i meant to thank you also for the link to the polish movie 'hatred'... thanks for everything..

Posted by: james | May 24 2022 22:01 utc | 170

Posted by: Scorpion | May 24 2022 16:41 utc | 52

Hanging your national flag upside down is a universal international sign of vessel in distress.

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | May 24 2022 22:02 utc | 171

There is not a shred of kindness to Kissinger's words. He just knows that China is the US biggest rival and not Russia. Kissinger is the kind of person that proves that karma doesn't exist because if it did he would have suffered a violent death before most of us would have been born. One of his famous quotes back in the days to a general who was hesitant to send in troops as canon fodder: "military men are dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy".

Posted by: xor | May 24 2022 20:57 utc | 152


Karma? Au contraire! I'm reminded by something said by a character in one of my favorite films:

"They say the good die young. I'll probably live to be 150."

(The film was Parting Glances; the character was played by Kathy Kinney in her first feature role; she later became famous on The Drew Carey Show as the title character's nemesis. Oh, and Steve Buscemi got his start in the same film.)

Good explanation for George Soros's longevity too.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 22:07 utc | 172

Brian Berletic at The New Atlas reports and it covers a mighty interesting range of material.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSkOIx2_oMg&t=549s

Brian is a serious reporter.

"Russian Ops in Ukraine: Ukraine is Blocking Own Ports, Losing Ground in Donbas"

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 24 2022 22:11 utc | 173

Selenia @166--

It would be appreciated if you could elaborate on what you see, even in Russian since we can translate.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 22:16 utc | 174

re: Kiza | May 24 2022 20:59 utc | 153

you wrote: "the fact that he just discovered that US plans have changed from defending Ukraine to badly hurting Russia is the apex of stupidity of either Ritter or of his audience. "

If that is your way of insulting me, so be it. In my opinion, whether purposely or because of your own lack of ability, you have totally missed the point of what Ritter is saying. It isn't simply about the money involved, it is about the entire political edifice of the US going gung-ho for war with Russia. The passage of the Lend Lease Act for Ukraine (with 417 votes for and 10 against in the House) amounts to a blank check backed up by the full political and military power of the US, with the clear and stated intent of "winning" this war against Russia.

That was hardly obvious a couple months ago.

Yes, Russia is destroying the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbass, but what follows after the Donbass is secured? I seriously doubt that Russia is going to stop there. The real question is what will the US do in desperation to forestall this total defeat of their proxy army in Ukraine?

Posted by: Perimetr | May 24 2022 22:16 utc | 175

Ritter is the best analyst/commentator of the current situation. Lira is a rank amateur in comparison.

Posted by: G | May 24 2022 22:17 utc | 176


Posted by: ptb | May 24 2022 20:14 utc | 135

I don't know man. This was posted two days ago by Sladkov - an old and respected mil.cor. with a military background himself who is rarely, if ever, engaging in hyperbole, talking about the effect of the introduction of the more modern NATO ammunitions in Ukraine as replacements for the old Soviet junk, which is making the newly gps/radio enabled M777 howitzers so much more dangerous than the the ones without (some of which are already destroyed). Some warnings for careful planning here:


UKRAINE AND RUSSIA, WHAT DO WE HAVE AS A RESULT OF THE SUPPLY OF WESTERN WEAPONS TO THE ENEMY?

The recent deliveries of 155mm howitzers to Ukraine, it seems to me, disappointed many of its supporters who were waiting for more modern and powerful weapons. And from our side, they led to another wave of ridicule and hat-throwing: the enemy's guns are not very modern, and our guns are no worse.

But some experts say that this is nonsense. For 30 years, weapons ammunitions have been modernized there. And, most importantly, what they don't talk about, they developed and produced new ammunition. Yes, Ukraine gets no outstanding howitzers. But by doing so, she switches to the most common artillery caliber in the world, to which she receives an infinite supply of BC (combat kit). Moreover, modern BC: active-rocket projectiles, correctable projectiles, special, any in general, which exist. And we either do not have them, or very few.

I will not disclose a military secret, how many corrected shells are standard, say, in the laying of a Russian self-propelled gun, but these are counted in the tens and hundreds only. And in the American artillery, as standard, half of the BC are correctable shells.
The official firing range of our Msta system (152 mm) is up to 30 km, but the systems supplied to Ukraine by the West (155 mm) have 40 km.

And as a result, British military television claims that soon the Ukrainian artillery will have almost 17 km of superiority over the Russian, in the distance of effective fire. We have, of course, the "Coalition" system, based on the T-90 tank, it hits 80 km, but how many have been released? 40? 50 pieces?

We are ironic about the fact that Ukrainians receive outdated small arms, and in general, "AK is the best machine gun". But at the same time, they are switching to 5.56 and 7.62 NATO calibers, and now, according to some experts, they can receive any ammunition in any quantities. Including all those that are much more modern than ours. And at this point, the situation no longer looks so rosy...

It is important to understand that the enemy was convinced that they were able to prolong the war and went from quickly gaining quantitative superiority to working on obtaining qualitative superiority. This is no longer making up for losses, these are the first attempts to reach a new level. And they are done wisely: in painful types of weapons and equipment for us, while with a good price-quality ratio for the enemy.

It is possible that in the foreseeable future this may become a challenge for the Russian army itself and for our technical school. And if, for example, we can increase the saturation of infantry with heavy weapons with the help of stocks with minimal upgrades of individual types of ammunition, then the problem of modern cartridges, shells, missiles and other things must be solved separately.

Posted by: Bloke from block 8 | May 24 2022 22:22 utc | 177

Posted by: nook | May 24 2022 18:31 utc | 99

I take it, you are not familiar with the term called "Blast Radius" . Or, better known as a very destructive over pressure wave. Any soft tissue caught in this wave. Is literally insta-kill.. Just outside this radius is basically shell shock. Resulting in "Loss of hearing(temporary or permanent?), concussion and risk of fatal/severe injury from shrapnel.............

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | May 24 2022 22:27 utc | 178

Posted by: vetinLA | May 24 2022 15:04 utc | 23

There are wheels within wheels in the USA.

Someone joked about Ivanka for President when she went to Poland. It may in fact not be a joke. Perhaps the Republicans or the Trump wing, are really thinking of running her. She would be no more/less a puppet than Obama, Bush Jnr or Biden, and probably very electable.

There has always been a strong Kissinger/Trump connection and Ivanka as a stand in for her dad would be much more electable (Trump is getting rather old now).

There could even be support in the USA for such a deal from the military and other dominant cliques, since for many China is the enemy. A neutral Russia would be good for them.

That being said, Kissinger is also old and harking back to an era now passed.

Posted by: watcher | May 24 2022 22:29 utc | 179

The Telegram channel Slavyangrad Gleb Bazov has a Russian military intelligence translation of what appears to be an official Ukraine army report, addressed to the Deputy Commander of the Armed Forces of the Ukraine, highlights:

- The Ukie army has lost between 40% and 60% of its trained personnel, reservists are replacing them without proper selection
- Only 39% have body armour, only 50% have a bullet proof helmet
- Recruits are being deceived, they think that they will be doing territorial defence and then end up at the front line
- 30% of the troops that are sent to the front-line are not capable of carrying out military service
- Lack of instructions for soldiers and a lack of ammunition

If the above is accurate, the Ukie armed forces are close to collapse and Phase 3..n may happen relatively fast. The Donbass broiler will have done the job of cooking the core of the Ukrainian armed forces. No wonder the US wants a ceasefire, the Russians have their enemy on the ropes.

Posted by: Roger | May 24 2022 22:30 utc | 180

I'm guessing that as Poland's move is not an officially declared NATO operation, then Polish troops in Ukraine are just mercenaries, with all the ramifications re the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: G | May 24 2022 22:32 utc | 181

on anti ship missiles:
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2022/05/23/ukraine-to-get-harpoon-anti-ship-missiles-from-denmark-amid-russian-black-sea-blockade/
Denmark will be the first country to dare this and deliver anti ship missiles (Harpoon) to Ukraine.
https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive-us-aims-arm-ukraine-with-advanced-anti-ship-missiles-fight-russian-2022-05-19/
Rumors have it that the US wants to dismount a launcher from a ship. I assume that they plan to prop it up on land.
I don't know if this is possible and I am sure it will take time. And I am sure that the Russian reconnaissance is still as excellent as it was the last three months.

However, this is a serious next step of NATO.

Posted by: Uwe Kerkow | May 24 2022 22:33 utc | 182

The above post is in response to c1ue's post at 38.

Posted by: G | May 24 2022 22:33 utc | 183

@B: It is likely too late to reverse the Russia-China alliance but I otherwise agree.

What does "reversal" mean? Too late to bully, punish or co-erce Russia to be part of the Empire?

or does it mean too late to stab China in the back?

Since when does Russia abandon her allies? Or behave like the US Empire?

I'd say it's 118 years too late and 100% irrerversible.

Regarding the flag, if it's a signal for whom is it intended?

Posted by: K | May 24 2022 22:36 utc | 184

Ursula Zandt #34

"How does one say "Bay of Pigs" in Russian?"

Залив свиней

I read somewhere that Henry Kissinger will be buried there.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 24 2022 22:37 utc | 185

Re: karlof1 | 172
I can describe you situation among residents of Moscow.
A lot of people support SVO and this theme is the main last three months.
Yes, you can read many posts in Facebook or Twitter with critics of our government. But the majority of Russians uses another social media, for example VK or telegram. It is knowing that Facebook is a lovely media of our liberal opposition. That is why their posts don’t describe the main moods among Russians.


Posted by: Selenia | May 24 2022 22:39 utc | 186

@various

Whosoever actually wants to go to war with Russia is either delirious, suicidal, or both. This is not to say that Russia is invincible, or that it never suffers defeat; which would be nonsense. But there is simply no other country that has the combined traits required to have good prospects when facing Russia martially.

And now it has a newfound moral advantage in being finally able to say "f**k it" again, because Cold War I and the Fall of the USSR happend two f**cking hours ago.

And all the Cold War anticommunist discourse by the West turned out to be dear little more than convenient window-dressing. The key ideological difference no longer exists, Russia has done everything "by the book", and yet it took the remote-controlled West a single hot minute to devolve into the darkest depths of a McCarthyism which has had its ideological fat rendered, leaving only a xenophobic bone to pick.

Banderists and their NATO* masters wanted to lead the worldwide supremacist dross into a bright new future through fire and blood.

I'm entirely glad that the Russians are willing to oblige them.

*: Nazi-Atlantic Treaty Organization, an international terrorist organization hopefully soon banned worldwide by the RF.

Posted by: Arganthonios | May 24 2022 22:42 utc | 187

The head of You-Tube explains why all Russian news outlets have been banned.
In doing so, and explaining why You Tube continues to operate in Russia she produces a final and unsurpassable definition of hypocrisy.

"...The reason YouTube continues to operate in Russia, she explained, is “that we’re able to deliver independent news into Russia. So the average citizen in Russia can access for free the same information that you can access here from Davos, which we believe it’s really important to be able to help citizens know what’s going on and have perspectives from the outside world.”

But the average citizen outside of Russia is protected from information from Russia.
Such is the nature of discussion at Davos.

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2022 22:44 utc | 188

Not directly related to Ukraine, and I did try to check the comments to see if it had come up, but fourteen 3rd, 4th and 5th graders were shot to death this afternoon by an 18 year-old from the same town near San Antonio. That does give an indication of the temperature of the pressure cooker in America right now.

On a topic related directly to Ukraine, it seems to me that the connections behind the labs that we have been talking about here and that we have heard about in Russian portrayals may be too simple. Yes, the money for these labs came through DoD. And yes, the diplomatic immunity for the American employees came through the DoS. But these were staffed through Big Pharma companies and contracted through them.

I had been aware of the Georgia case, so I was not surprised when they turned up in Ukraine. I've learned here about Mongolian labs. Plot these on a map and they're obviously ringing America's "enemies." But does that really make sense for a directly military operation. What about security. Instead, maybe Big Pharma is using these labs to do research they're not allowed to do in the U. S. because it's too dangerous. Put them next to our enemies, so if something goes wrong, it's their problem, at least initially. Is that not exactly what happened in Wuhan? And their reaction to Covid and their standing with Russia in exposing these labs is due to their belief that the U. S. and its Big Pharma are endangering them and the world.

It also helps me understand better why in the world that Nuland, an experienced operative if there ever was one, would blurt out in an open Senate hearing about these labs. Maybe she had gotten a desperate call from a Big Pharma company that their work needed to be secured. She wanted to distance herself because she was not in charge since these were contractors.

What they were researching and how might make more sense if viewed from this angle.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | May 24 2022 22:47 utc | 189

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2022 22:44 utc | 185

I haven't watched the coverage. Are they all wearing powdered wigs with those make-up birthmarks? Or maybe they're versions of the MoU guy in "Don't Look Up," sort of quasi-human?

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | May 24 2022 22:50 utc | 190

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2022 17:10 utc | 61

It is available in English:

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1814502/

Posted by: G | May 24 2022 22:51 utc | 191

Tom @145

https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

Posted by: rhythm&blues | May 24 2022 22:57 utc | 192

Everybody always asks ”What’s next?”

Here’s a freebie: After the Donbass is secured, Kharkov is next. Multiple threads of evidence suggest that Russia is preparing the battlefield there and is going to hit hard within a month or six weeks.

I don’t know if this counts as Phase 3. Likely it is just the end of Phase 2.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 24 2022 22:58 utc | 193

Before they even reach the Black Sea, they'll need Turkey's permission. That ain't going to happen. That idea is just publicity

Posted by: Toxik | May 24 2022 23:07 utc | 194

Flying the Ukraine flag upside down and no one noticing shows that the US has not understood a damn thing since the 1958 book "The Ugly American" was written.

The basic premise of the book and later 1963 movie starring Marlon Brando, is that because the US is so absorbed with its American exceptionalism, it pays no attention to cultural and ethnic understanding within the countries it invades. Everywhere is supposed to be America and other countries just have to put up with their overriding cultural and military supremacy. This was why Vietnam went so terribly wrong because the never listened to the needs of the people in the regions involved, and just bullied them into accepting US plans to weaponize their countries. Most of the time they showed no understanding of the people nor even bothered learning the local languages even if they were diplomats posted there. Living US lifestyles in fenced off compounds where they could play tennis/golf and live as they did back home, made sure they never really identified or communicated with the local people.

Posted by: George Wendell | May 24 2022 23:10 utc | 195

@B: It is likely too late to reverse the Russia-China alliance but I otherwise agree.

Actually the joint Statement didn't suggest an alliance, but indicated what "the sides" believe about democracy. The sides "noted" many things, and promoted "cooperation" in many areas. So it was about friendship and partnership, but not the alliance strategy that the US has used to control the world. The US enjoys bragging about how many allies it has, which fits a unipolar world, but in a multipolar friends cooperate with their partners to do the right thing. The goal is partnerships in a multipolar world among countries like Russia and China who believe in democracy, not an alliance of two countries.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 24 2022 23:10 utc | 196

@William Gruff | May 24 2022 22:58 utc | 189
I am not sure what will be next, but I would not bet on Charkov oblast. Maybe a few further attacks to secure the Belgorod area from terror attacks.

My bet would be taking Ochakov, unblocking the Dniepr gulf water mouth, rendering Cherson harbour operational again. Would not need a big operation, though bit tricky certainly.

Beneath that Zaporoshye. My armchair strategist dream would be a large amphibious operation taking Ismail rayon, once taken, practically no chance for Ukraine to get it back, Odessa oblast completely cut off Romania, Transnistria secured. After that, offensive towards Nikolayev with the operational goal to cut off Odessa oblast in the north. Unable to be provided with supplies, the Odessa oblast forces could be Azowstalled. Any wet Nazi dreams about anti ship missiles gone.

Posted by: aquadraht | May 24 2022 23:15 utc | 197

Flying the Ukraine flag upside down and no one noticing shows that the US has not understood a damn thing since the 1958 book "The Ugly American" was written.

The basic premise of the book and later 1963 movie starring Marlon Brando, is that because the US is so absorbed with its American exceptionalism, it pays no attention to cultural and ethnic understanding within the countries it invades. Everywhere is supposed to be America and other countries just have to put up with their overriding cultural and military supremacy. This was why Vietnam went so terribly wrong because the never listened to the needs of the people in the regions involved, and just bullied them into accepting US plans to weaponize their countries. Most of the time they showed no understanding of the people nor even bothered learning the local languages even if they were diplomats posted there. Living US lifestyles in fenced off compounds where they could play tennis/golf and live as they did back home, made sure they never really identified or communicated with the local people.

Posted by: George Wendell | May 24 2022 23:10 utc | 191


Or, for that matter, Graham Greene's Quiet American, which preceded and may well have inspired The Ugly American.

One of the most fortuitous connections in modern history is that between Graham Greene and an admirer of his named John Perkins, who went on to wrote Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, as useful a textbook of American imperial depravity as any.

Posted by: malenkov | May 24 2022 23:29 utc | 198

All this Nazi symbolism coming out of Ukraine will confuse the Africans reading the DoD strategy paper "The Strategic Consequences of Chinese Racism" or watching the ubiquitous expressions of Western appreciation of African culture.

It's getting more and more difficult in Western Civilization to keep the narrative coherent.

Posted by: bottle | May 24 2022 23:30 utc | 199

A cursory glance and there are no references to Pepe's at the Cradle

".Three months after the start of Russia’s Operation Z in Ukraine, the battle of The West (12 percent) against The Rest (88 percent) keeps metastasizing. Yet the narrative – oddly – remains the same.

"On Monday, from Davos, World Economic Forum Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab introduced Ukrainian comedian-cum-President Volodymyr Zelensky, on the latest leg of his weapons-solicitation-tour, with a glowing tribute. Herr Schwab stressed that an actor impersonating a president defending neo-Nazis is supported by “all of Europe and the international order.”

"He means, of course, everyone except the 88 percent of the planet that subscribes to the Rule of Law – instead of the faux construct the west calls a ‘rules-based international order.’...."

https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/10803

Posted by: bevin | May 24 2022 23:31 utc | 200

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