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April 07, 2022

U.S. 'Intelligence' Says Its 'Intelligence' Is Bullshit

U.S. 'intelligence' folks tell their stenographers at NBC News that their obvious lies are obvious lies.


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That announced 'break with the past' of faking 'intelligence' happened when?

How 'rock solid' was the 'intelligence' about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction or chemical weapons attacks in Douma, Syria?

U.S. 'intelligence', then and now, is pure imagination for the purpose of deceiving the U.S. and 'western' public about the reality of this or that conflict:

It was an attention-grabbing assertion that made headlines around the world: U.S. officials said they had indications suggesting Russia might be preparing to use chemical agents in Ukraine.

President Joe Biden later said it publicly. But three U.S. officials told NBC News this week there is no evidence Russia has brought any chemical weapons near Ukraine. They said the U.S. released the information to deter Russia from using the banned munitions.

Unlike the U.S. Russia no longer has any 'banned munitions':

The OPCW’s inspection teams have verified the destruction at seven chemical weapons destruction facilities in the Russian Federation. On 27 September 2017, the last of these facilities, located in Kizner, officially concluded its operations.

With the total elimination of Russia’s declared chemical weapons programme, 96.3 per cent of all chemical weapon stockpiles declared by possessor States have been destroyed under OPCW verification.

That is why the U.S. 'intelligence' claim of a potential use of Russian chemical weapons was obvious nonsense from the get go:

It’s one of a string of examples of the Biden administration’s breaking with recent precedent by deploying declassified intelligence as part of an information war against Russia. The administration has done so even when the intelligence wasn’t rock solid, officials said, to keep Russian President Vladimir Putin off balance. Coordinated by the White House National Security Council, the unprecedented intelligence releases have been so frequent and voluminous, officials said, that intelligence agencies had to devote more staff members to work on the declassification process, scrubbing the information so it wouldn’t betray sources and methods.

Sure, devote more people for the 'declassification process' of creating mere fantasies or for the the reproduction of public sources:

Just this week, national security adviser Jake Sullivan stood at the White House podium and read out what officials said was more declassified intelligence, asserting that Russia’s pullout from areas around Kyiv wasn’t a retreat but a strategic redeployment that signals a significant assault on eastern and southern Ukraine, one that U.S. officials believe could be a protracted and bloody fight.

That 'declassified intelligence' Sullivan read out was the copy of a public announcement the Ministry of Defense of Russia had made on March 30:

Planned regrouping of troops in Kiev and Chernigov directions is underway.

The first stage of the special military operation conducted by the Russian Armed Forces in Donbas and Ukraine was planned to force the enemy to concentrate its forces, means, resources and military equipment to hold on to high populated areas in these directions, including Kiev. To bring them down on the battlefield and, without storming these cities to avoid civilian casualties, inflict such a defeat on the armed formations of the Kiev regime that it would not be able to use these forces in the main direction of our Armed Forces in Donbass.

All these goals have been met.

At the same time, the Russian army also solved another task, namely - in the absence of an inflow of fresh enemy forces from the western and central regions of Ukraine, through professional military action, using the absolute air dominance it had gained, also using modern high-precision weapons - to create all the necessary conditions for the final stage of the operation to liberate the People's Republics of Donbass.
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Thus, all the main tasks of the Russian Armed Forces in Kiev and Chernigov directions have been completed.

The objective of the regrouping of the Russian Armed Forces is to intensify action in priority areas and, above all, to complete the operation for the total liberation of Donbass.

To claim that official public announcement by the Russian military are 'declassified intelligence' is of course bullshit. But NBC News stenographers won't tell you that. Instead we get more of this nonsense:

Multiple U.S. officials acknowledged that the U.S. has used information as a weapon even when confidence in the accuracy of the information wasn’t high. Sometimes it has used low-confidence intelligence for deterrent effect, as with chemical agents, and other times, as an official put it, the U.S. is just “trying to get inside Putin’s head.”

Does anyone believe that Putin gives a f*** about U.S. 'intelligence' claims?

No:

Some officials believe, however, that trying to get into Putin’s head is a meaningless exercise, because he will do what he wants regardless.
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The biggest success of the U.S. information offensive may have been delaying the invasion itself by weeks or months, which officials believe they did with accurate predictions that Russia intended to attack, based on definitive intelligence.

Those 'accurate predictions' included the false claims that Russia would invade the Ukraine on February 11, February 14 and February 16:

The noise has become deafening.

> The U.S. intelligence briefing included specific reference to next Wednesday, February 16, as a start date for the ground invasion, three officials — based in Washington, London and Ukraine — told POLITICO. <

'Could' is doing a lot of work in those headlines.

Can we get it a bit more precise?

1am or 3am?

Which is it?

And in what timezone?

In fact, Russia had not decided to invade Ukraine at that time. The decision was most likely made after February 19, after the Ukrainian military had intensified its bombardment of Donbas and after the Ukrainian president Zelinsky had threatened to acquire nuclear weapons:

Starting in mid February the OSCE observers around Donbas noted in their daily reports a strong increase in ceasefire violation and explosions.


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Most of the violations came from the Ukrainian site and the explosions of the fired shells and missile happened on Donbas held grounds. On February 19, at the hight of the fire, Zelensky gave a speech at the Munich Security Conference. He prominently mentioned the Budapest Memorandum under which the Ukraine had given up the nuclear weapons it had inherited from the USSR:

".. Ukraine will have every right to believe that the Budapest Memorandum is not working and all the package decisions of 1994 are in doubt."

One of the package decisions Ukraine took in 1994 was the entering of Ukraine into the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

Russia understood Zelensky's remark in Munich as a threat by Ukraine to acquire nuclear weapons. It already has the expertise, materials and means to do that.

A fascist controlled government with nukes on Russia's border? This is not about Putin at all. No Russian government of any kind could ever condone that.

I believe that this credible threat, together with the artillery preparations for a new war on Donbas, was what convinced Russia's government to intervene by force.

The Russian military operation was clearly provoked. It started on February 24, months after U.S. 'intelligence' had falsely warned of an 'imminent' attack, eight days AFTER Ukrainian artillery preparations to attack Donbas had begun, five days AFTER Zelinsky's nuclear speech and two days AFTER the U.S. and its allies had implemented unprecedented sanctions against Russia.

NBC News, as well as other western outlets, allow themselves to be abused by presenting U.S. 'intelligence' claims they know are outright lies:

Game or not, U.S. intelligence officials say it has been successful. Intelligence is rarely definitive, and Biden officials have calculated in some cases that it’s better to pre-empt something that might not happen, rather than stay silent and watch it unfold.

“It doesn’t have to be solid intelligence when we talk about it,” a U.S. official said. “It’s more important to get out ahead of them — Putin specifically — before they do something. It’s preventative. We don’t always want to wait until the intelligence is 100 percent certainty that they are going to do something. We want to get out ahead to stop them.”

Edged on by the 'intelligence' community the 'western' media 'get ahead' and produce one lie after the other.

Here they are, reporting on some scruffy cat in Bucha, a town that had seen five weeks of intense front-line fighting.


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The recently sensationalized mass graves in Bucha were of its Volkssturm 'civilian defenders' and of Russian soldiers deceased there. They were dug on March 12 and had nothing to do with the recent pull back of Russian forces. Some carefully filmed bodies in the streets of Bucha have likely been casualties of weeks old Ukrainian artillery strikes. Others bound and killed there, likely by Ukrainian Azov fascists, were wearing white arm bands identifying them as neutral to Russian forces.

Only rarely do we get insight from 'western' media of what the people on the ground in Ukraine really feel:

8:58 6 Apr - In eastern Ukraine, some don't blame Putin for the war
Jonathan Beale, BBC News, Donbas

We visited the town of Lysychansk, about a mile from the front line. It's one of many residential areas to have been hit by Russian artillery over the past few days.
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A Ukrainian soldier led us through the mostly-deserted streets to an underground shelter.

Inside in a gloomy room we talked to two old women, who were trying to keep warm in front of an electric fire.

We asked them who they thought was responsible for shelling their town - astonishingly, neither blamed Russia or President Vladimir Putin. They thought their grim situation was as much the fault of Ukraine and President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Whenever such rare reality reports, like the above or this one, come out, they get buried in an overwhelming stream of 'intelligence' bullshit and pro-war propaganda:

A video posted online on Monday and verified by The New York Times appears to show a group of Ukrainian soldiers killing captured Russian troops outside a village west of Kyiv.

“He’s still alive. Film these marauders. Look, he’s still alive. He’s gasping,” a man says as a Russian soldier with a jacket pulled over his head, apparently wounded, is seen still breathing. A soldier then shoots the man twice. After the man keeps moving, the soldier shoots him again, and he stops.

At least three other apparent Russian soldiers, including one with an obvious head wound who has his hands tied behind his back, can be seen dead near the victim. All are wearing camouflage, and three have white arm bands commonly worn by Russian troops. Equipment is scattered around them and there are blood stains near each man’s head.

For every atrocity Ukrainian troops and militia commit U.S. 'intelligence' will create five or more fairy tales of 'Russian atrocities' which the media, well knowing that such claims are likely false, will lap up and repeat.

The only advice one can give in such a situation is to always assume that it is the exact opposite of what any 'intelligence' claims that is actually happening.

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I saw a headline that said US Maj General captured in Ukraine. Can anyone verify? US and intelligence in the same sentence is an oxymoron. Brings to mind monkeys, matches and petrol dump.

Posted by: I'mmaculate deceptio | Apr 7 2022 15:54 utc | 101

Pakistan Supreme Court ... overturns the procedural action of the PM Khan's allies in parliament, which prevented the recent no-confidence motion. The court also restored both the parliament and cabinet. Court orders parliament to convene and no-confidence to go proceed Saturday.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 7 2022 15:56 utc | 102


The supreme court of Pakistan just has decided against Imran Khan: the parliamentary speaker's dismission of the no-confidence vote has been declared unconstitutional, i.e. the no-confidence vote will happen. Khan will probably lose it because some guys of his own party turned against him for whatever reason...

Another regime change.

Posted by: mk | Apr 7 2022 15:56 utc | 103

@Posted by: librul | Apr 7 2022 15:27 utc | 90
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"I have been trying to confirm what the articles said about the Simon Wiesenthal Center:"

The House had previously passed amendments banning support of Azov between 2014 and 2017, but due to pressure from The Pentagon, the amendments were quietly lifted.

This was protested by the Simon Wiesenthal Center which stated that lifting the ban highlighted the danger of Holocaust distortion in Ukraine.

"I have searched and searched, including on the Simon Wiesenthal Center website, for confirmation of their protest.
I can find nothing to confirm it. Either it is incorrect or the search engines have cleansed it."
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I found something.

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-lifts-ban-on-funding-neo-Nazi-Ukrainian-militia-441884

US lifts ban on funding ‘neo-Nazi’ Ukrainian militia
Last June, Congress passed a resolution intended to block American military funding for Ukraine from being used to provide training or weaponry for the Azov Battalion.


The news that the Azov Battalion is now legally able to receive American aid has enraged the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which last week successfully blocked the battalion from holding a recruitment meeting in Nantes, France.
“This step is hardly surprising to anyone who has been following the growing danger of Holocaust distortion in post-Communist Europe, and especially in the Baltics, Ukraine and Hungary,” said Wiesenthal Center Jerusalem office head Efraim Zuroff.
“In recent years, the United States has purposely ignored the glorification of Nazi collaborators, the granting of financial benefits to those who fought alongside the Nazis, and the systematic promotion of the canard of equivalency between Communist and Nazi crimes by these countries because of various political interests.”

Amazingly, not everyone in the Jewish community is against funding Azov.


Not everyone was so upset, however, with the Vaad of Ukraine, a Jewish communal body comprising a number of different organizations and known for its nationalist stance on many issues, coming out in favor of the move.
“I appreciate this decision. It must be clearly understood: there is no kind of ‘neo-Nazi Ukrainian militia’ now. Azov is a regular military unit subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. It is not irregular division neither a political group. Its commanders and fighters might have personal political views as individuals, but as an armed police unit Azov is a part of the system of the Ukrainian defense forces,” said anti-Semitism researcher Vyacheslav A. Likhachev, speaking on behalf of the Vaad.
Russian “aggression” is a much bigger threat than Azov, Likhachev insisted, adding that “it is necessary to clearly distinguish between the Azov regiment and political projects related to its former commander.”
“Of course, manifestations of neo-Nazism in Ukraine are unacceptable. But it has nothing to do with the question of assistance to the Ukrainian armed forces.”

Reminder that now, today, the ADL supports Azov by minimalizing their influence and being careful to point
out that Azov aren't killing Jews yet.

Posted by: librul | Apr 7 2022 15:56 utc | 104

I assume the regime change operation in Pakistan is due to Khan being uncooperative with sanctioning Russia.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 7 2022 16:02 utc | 105

Posted by: S | Apr 7 2022 15:46 utc | 98

for few days you can still search in the history of your browser.

good browser automatically search text of the pages you read a week or month ago, when you start typing.

granted, history would not be kept for long, but who says Consortium News (your example) would not be overrun and made to retroactively edit or delete articles?

"only paranoids survive" - what you did not save to your location is never warranted to exist...

Yet we only know WWW where pretty cats and pussies and only what server's masters bother to keep exists.
TPTB would perhaps be glad if we all migrated into some intellectual ghetto and leave WWW for small joys and "reliable" information.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 7 2022 16:03 utc | 106

Countries and peoples fooled by the USA /NATO , and left in the lurch since1967-

Greece (junta) in Cyprus invasion by Turks, Iraq (just before Saddam had a fight with the US) in 1989/90, Kurds during and after Gulf War, Georgia 2008 , Kurds in Syria in fight with Turks and ISIS, NagornoKarabakh (Armenia) 2020, The Ukraine(2022).

I despise all the above fools for listening to the Americans.

When will you learn; the US cares nothing for you and only uses you.


Posted by: Brother Ma | Apr 7 2022 16:07 utc | 107

Befree @91--

Nice if terse summation of longstanding Colonial/Imperial history and policy that had to be covered up to keep the cover story alive, particularly since 1948 when the cat was let out of the bag in discussions at the State Department. Thus the Cold War and NATO. But that still doesn't explain the OSS/CIA/MI-6's rescue of Nazis and their immediate reemployment as members of the Terrorist Foreign Legion, their seeding within Latin America, and the effort to nurture OUN and Nazism and expand it beyond its initial borders and believers. That action implies seeing the need/having the desire to do that well before WW2's end by people within the US & UK governments. Five days ago, this essay by Ehret was published that throws some light on where such thinking might have come from, "New Revelations Shed Light on Nazi Roots of House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha." It's also likely there's info in the two primary sources Chung used in her latest, excellent essay. I again provide the links to those primary sources so barflies can do their own investigation into why Nazism was saved, https://epdf.pub/us-intelligence-and-the-nazis.html and https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_SpMVUEXINRQC/page/n5/mode/2up

IMO, if we can produce evidence proving the US & UK wished to continue the war against the USSR while the war was still undecided, then we have a scoop that goes far in explaining the primary roots of the current conflict, not just the simple explanation that Brezenski was a Nazi for the policy was clearly arranged long before he arrived on the stage.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 7 2022 16:11 utc | 108

thanks b...

i want to take up a post @ alaff | Apr 7 2022 12:35 utc | 30 about the issue of nato types captured in mariupol.. i think it is important, if true as it could really blow the lid off who is responsible for this war in ukraine very quickly... think of these nato types from nato countries being brought to russia and explaining publicly why they were in mariupol? so, i think alaffs link to the telegram post is important... here is a translation of it for others to consider... again though - i don't know if it is true!

"My sources in Mariupol confirm the presence of NATO top officers at Azovstal. NAVTSOV came to our intelligence through the open radio channel and ask to give them the opportunity to evacuate in Dnepropetrovsk. As part of this group there are colonels. The total number of Western personnel military is some dozen. Before that, they tried to fly on Ukrainian helicopters, but as we remember the next two knocked down under Mariupol yesterday. That is, this window was closed and another channel now just how to go through roads - no. And for this you need to pass our troops.
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A similar story was in Syria at one time. On one of the bases of opponents of President Assad, about 40 employees of the Mossad were discovered, who were also surrounded and asked the corridor. He was provided with him, but did not publish information. What there were no considerations there. But, in Mariupol, it is impossible to leave this operation in the shade and if you spend, then only with very harsh conditions. First, it is necessary to demand the transfer of all of our prisoners to us. Secondly, make a way out public in the presence of our and Western media, as well as international organizations. Thirdly, fix personal data of officers, to which units they are attributed, as well as what tasks they solved. Surely there are instructors there and, more importantly, staff officers, because it will prove the planning of military operation against Russia.
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And, like a bonus, we get a fracture in the information war, deployed against us in the West. Such a plot will show everything, even the most Russophobic TV channels and newspapers. Subsequently, we will also be able to call these officers as dads to court against the Nazis. And last: the publicity of the delivery will take suspicion of suspicion of a treacherous delivery from the Moscow government, and such moods are very strong among the military."

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2022 16:12 utc | 109

The problem with computers as consumer products was always to find ways to make money off them, as with other consumer products that wind up as vehicles for entertainment and propaganda, and this has much to do with the low quality of their products, they are all about the money, and the PR narrative, not the product itself. Milking consumers is a full time job. Now it is the case that anything that grabs eyeballs is what floats to the top on the internet. One surfs around constantly distracted by small body parts being examined for medical or pornographic purposes.

I say this in comment on the discussion of buzzword use ("agile") as an indicator of technical ability. It becomes prevalent at precisely the point where bug-free programs are no-longer a priority.

PowerPoint is to thought, what television is to education.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 7 2022 16:15 utc | 110

105
That is undoubtedly the case. Khan should take a leaf out of Stephen Harper's Canadian playbook: put off the No Confidence vote ( it was related to torturing prisoners in Afghanistan) by having Parliament prorogued, or suspended for a time.
But that could only happen in Canada (or Australia?).
Now Khan faces a vote tomorrow. If he loses the President can ask another man to form a government, without an election.
On the other hand, as Bhadramakumar pointed out recently anti-Americanism is a mass movement in Pakistan. What is going on in Afghanistan does not add to the US's popularity or the credibility of its Military clients.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 16:18 utc | 111

@105 re: Pak

Events probably accelerated due to US trying to create a "with-us-or-against-us" wherever possible. But even more than Russia, US interest in Pakistan is due to Pakistan being a close and essential economic partner of China, as well as a key Chinese military export market. At the same time, Pakistan also has a history of close ties to both US intelligence and gulf monarchies, thereby being a powerful instrument in the countless proxy wars of the Islamic world.

Far from a done deal, by the way. No confidence vote would have to be passed, credible accusations of foreign interference still being digested. According to some, this adds up to a high likelyhood of new elections -- unclear leadership in the interim.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 7 2022 16:21 utc | 112

Posted by: thomas | Apr 7 2022 13:50 utc | 52

Why is censorship the knee-jerk go-to whenever objectionable material is encountered? Whatever happened to education/knowledge? You know, as per Robbespierre:

"The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant."

Unless of course you have no argument...

No thanks... I'll take my chances with engaging, civil discourse, as "iron sharpens iron" over tyrannical censorship where someone OTHER than me controls what I see/hear. I've already seen that movie (currently playing) & I know how it ends

BTW who watches the Watcher? Or the Censor?

Posted by: ianMoone | Apr 7 2022 16:22 utc | 113

I wonder if we're going to actually hear about (and care about) Europeans freezing to death in the upcoming winters as a result of the elites (who will, as always, be warm and comfy at home, or some vacation property). Sanctions on the elites? Ha ha. Their controlled media won't allow such pictures or questioning.

Posted by: Seer | Apr 7 2022 16:25 utc | 114

So I read that Russia has been voted off the UN Human Rights Council. The irony of states such as the US, UK, Saudi Arabia even being members of such a council is glaring. In terms of the world’s population, I suspect that those who either abstained or voted against the resolution to suspend far outweigh those who voted in favour. But given the levels of hypocrisy, who really gives a flying fuck?

Posted by: Vragtes | Apr 7 2022 16:26 utc | 115

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 16:18 utc | 111
otoh if Khan somehow pulls this out, that's another nuclear armed state the US has gone out of its way to make an enemy.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 7 2022 16:26 utc | 116

" if we can produce evidence proving the US & UK wished to continue the war against the USSR while the war was still undecided.."
Not much doubt about that. Which is why we got President Truman instead of Wallace. Churchill had a plan to use the bomb against Moscow. Which is why we got Premier Attlee instead of Churchill.
The truth is that Europe, the UK included and probably the US too would not have supported such a war. And that was when the apathetic fools who consume TV news today, were armed, trained, dangerous and on the spot. There is a reason why all the wars of the early Cold War involved Asiatic enemies.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 16:26 utc | 117

@Arioch #106:

"only paranoids survive" - what you did not save to your location is never warranted to exist...

When I stumble upon something that I suspect may get erased, I always go to archive.org and make a copy. I can download, sure, but who is going to believe that my downloaded copy is real? Of course, archive.org may also get taken down in the future. The only solution is to set up independent websites (with servers located in non-Western jurisdictions) that will systematically chronicle ongoing events and preserve evidence concerning a particular topic.

Posted by: S | Apr 7 2022 16:26 utc | 118

Wow: UN suspends Russia from Human Rights Council.

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 7 2022 16:30 utc | 119

woke culture rules.. and of course its so easily manipulated too..

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2022 16:33 utc | 120

Reminder that now, today, the ADL supports Azov by minimalizing their influence and being careful to point out that Azov aren't killing Jews yet.

Posted by: librul | Apr 7 2022 15:56 utc | 104

It gets even better, which is why not to talk about the "duck" is not a good idea.

https://bbgwatch.com/bbgwatch/voice-of-america-ignores-protest-letter-to-putin-from-ukrainian-jews-in-nyt-as-do-voice-of-russia-and-rt/

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/opinion/putins-phantom-pogroms.html

https://maidantranslations.com/2014/03/05/open-letter-of-ukrainian-jews-to-russian-federation-president-vladimir-putin/

Put following in Google Search window, and then ENTER
donbass burned site:https://www.osce.org/

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 16:33 utc | 121

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 7 2022 16:30 utc | 119

I see the UN somehow overlooked the US as a human right violator. just an oversight no doubt.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 7 2022 16:34 utc | 122

ksa - steller upholder of human rights, lol..

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2022 16:36 utc | 123

Posted by: aquileia | Apr 7 2022 16:30 utc | 119
Posted by: Vragtes | Apr 7 2022 16:26 utc | 115

Clown World.

Murmurings have been floating around about an effort to push Russia out of the UNSC. I think Russia should embrace the opportunity - tear the whole rotting structure down and build a new one with the global south, and the east, leaving the Five Eyes and their insignificant lackeys to inhabit the decaying carcas of the last century.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 7 2022 16:37 utc | 124

".."The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant."
ianMoone@113
That is certainly the received wisdom. On the other hand it is through 'education' that ordinary people are indoctrinated. Reading leads to the Press, a deep well of lies and ideology, and TV. It also teaches people to "respect experts" and believe anything that authority tells them.
William Cobbett, one of the founders of English journalism and a radical 'populist' opposed education by government and inspired the long tradition of radical/socialist/Trade Union Political Education courses as an alternative to those organised by the state and aimed at facilitating the quiescent exploitation of the masses.
It is counter intuitive but the better educated citizens are the more likely are they to swallow "intelligence" and other propaganda. For every one who benefits by developing the skills of critical analysis there are a hundred who use their knowledge of such skills to justify cowardly conformity.
Honesty is more important than knowledge.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 16:37 utc | 125

A non binding resolution by the EU parliament, probably so the EU bigwigs can see whose onboard with the embargo's and who isn't anyway its a meaningless vote, as EU nations (most of them will vote for it) will still purchase Russian fuel.


"The European Parliament passed a resolution on Thursday demanding “an immediate full embargo on Russian imports of oil, coal, nuclear fuel and gas.” The bloc’s legislature also demanded Russia be completely cut off from the SWIFT banking network and booted from international organizations.

The resolution, which is not legally binding and only advisory in nature, passed by 513 votes to 22 and 19 abstentions. "

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 16:43 utc | 126

Why would Russia want to be a member of a council called the ‘Human Rights’ Council, if it has members like US, Uk, all NATO countries, Israel, Saudi Arabia et al? Better off remaining suspended and when the war’s over, rejoin only on condition that the fascistic states mentioned are suspended.

Posted by: Vragtes | Apr 7 2022 16:45 utc | 127

Ukraine has lost only 95 tanks. They need more so they can retake Mariupal. Guardian.
Ruble has crashed to 200 to the dollar. Biden. Currently 79 and rising strongly.

Just a couple of examples of what happens when you believe your own propaganda. Propaganda is not reality.

Posted by: Oh | Apr 7 2022 16:46 utc | 128

If I was a thinking Azov fighter, which I'm not, I would now be mightily pissed off at US and NATO for all their broken promise, failed BS plans and misinformation. On the basis that Russia beat the Chechens, I would expect my life as a stay behind would be unpleasant and short. So who should feel my anger? US and other NATO members. So bury the guns (in this case Stingers, Star Streaks, Javelins and MLAWs) and sneak off somewhere to hide until the fighting is over.
Then when the situation is less hostile return and dig up the "guns" and use them against NATO members and US forces/assets in Europe.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 7 2022 16:49 utc | 129

Strange how the Greek parliament can be 100% behind Ukrainian president Zelensky when he spoke to the Greek politicians via video link, but then many of those Greek politicians got up and walked out in disgust when a AZOV battalion commander under Zelensky's command did the same thing.

How can the Greek parliament support one but not the other, when both are inextricably linked.

https://www.rt.com/russia/553477-ukraine-greece-zelensky-azov/


Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 16:50 utc | 130

The Ukrainian masks slips for a brief moment, its not about hating Putin its about hating all Russians.

"Ukraine’s envoy to Berlin, Andrij Melnyk, sparked criticism after calling all Russians “enemies” in an interview on Wednesday with a German newspaper, and doubling down on his words the same day. His comments triggered accusations that the statement is “nothing short of fascism.”

“I will say it very clearly: Russia is an enemy state for us. And all Russians are enemies for Ukraine at the moment,” Melnyk told Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) in an interview published on Tuesday. He went on to say that it’s not his “concern” to “distinguish” between “good” Russians and bad ones."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 16:53 utc | 131

Russian prisoners of war are executed in Ukraine, says Dane (TV 2, Rasmus Tantholdt and Mikkel Secher, April 7, 2022 — in Danish)

Thousands of Russian soldiers are believed to have lost their lives during the invasion of the Ukraine.

Many have been killed in fighting, but according to a Danish soldier in the Ukraine, the Ukrainians are also killing captured Russians, even though it is against the laws of war.

The soldier, Jonas, has voluntarily traveled to the country, where he is fighting on the side of the Ukrainians in the war.

“I have heard about one successful prisoner exchange, and that is it,” he says to TV 2.

“People are being killed.”

‘Jonas’ is not his real name, but since he is still in the Ukraine, he appears here in the article anonymously for the sake of his safety. TV 2 is aware of his identity and has seen evidence that he is in the Ukraine and that he is part of the Ukrainian army.

The Danish soldier himself claims to have killed a large number of Russian soldiers as part of the war. But he stresses that he himself has not participated in the killings of captured Russians.

However, he has spoken to several of them when they were still alive, he says.

Posted by: S | Apr 7 2022 16:55 utc | 132

the Info War the US is fighting isn't against Russia .. it's against Reality itself.

The Info War is the ongoing struggle to keep the cracks in the Illusion from widening and prevent the US Empire citizen from becoming aware of his progressively awful situation.

Posted by: mijj | Apr 7 2022 16:57 utc | 133

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 16:37 utc | 125

Fair point, bevin

Not all "education" is created equal. What passes for public ed today is the antithesis of what I received in the 60's/70's, where critical thinking, healthy skepticism & rugged individualism were encouraged & lauded

Posted by: ianMoone | Apr 7 2022 16:58 utc | 134

How they voted country by country with regards to Russia's suspension from the UN Human Rights Council, Saudi Arabia has one of the worst human rights records in the world yet they still have a seat, maybe they realised that for they abstained.

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2022.04/original/624f0f02203027111c694704.jpg

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 16:59 utc | 135

Violation of Human Rights and War Crimes in Ukraine 2017-2020, pdf....

https://democracyfund.ru/userfiles/Ukrainian_Crimes_2017-2020.pdf

Then, it is Russia who has been ousted from the UNHRC.....

We are clearly living in the world of inside down...The most astounding is the silent majority swalling all this

The tone of the news is the same as through the pandemic, outright lies and laughing at the spectator and taxpayer..

It is not possible that so many people does not gets aware of the performance...

Past days an alleged recently arrived "Ukrainian refugee" told of her whereabouts in Basque Public TV in a perfect Euskera worth tghe higuest level of learning...

It is my theory that they are testing to what extent the people will swallow blatant lies without protesting...
It is my theory that nost of the people is aware we are under a harsh fascist dictatorship since at leats two years ago and they chose to keep silent so that to save the skin...
There is simply not so monay dumb people, common sense is widespread....

Posted by: Givi | Apr 7 2022 17:00 utc | 136

> The only solution is to set up independent websites (with servers located in non-Western jurisdictions)

WWW is not suited for that, it should be different tools.
There is a barfly for years mantaining http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Bucha_massacre - how many readers are there in his wiki ?

And, ideally this should have no servers at all. When there is no servers - there is nothing to destroy, nothing to censor.

Two fundamental problems though.

1. Such tools are sloooow. Some criminals would use them. If sometimes it would take few hours for a page to load - that is a good compromise for their safety. But casual person who cares about pretty kittens in FaceBook - won't, he would want the cute moview starting playing even before he clicked it. That is why i called it ghetto, self-made exile. You can go there. And some geopolitic-addicted freaks would maybe follow you. But people in general would not.

2. What is a document? you want to save and share - WHAT exactly?

You may say, a book is what it written on the cover. That is how WWW works. You click on the link - and then you read something that the server serves you. It means we are reading different documents, actually. Here above is a document for me, that ended at 118th comment. But for you the very same page would have my comment added and some extra before and before mine. The page is the same - but content is different!

BBC was even spotted serving different article texts and photos to people in different countries at the same moment in time.

Now, you may say, that the book is what is written inside it. That is called "content-adressable storage" and it is how p2p media exchange worked: e-Donkey2000, Gnutella, G2, BitTorrent, and now - IPFS

It works great for "clay tables" that never change. If there is some famous Hollywood movie of 100 years ago - you would want it EXACTLY how it was, with not a speck changed. Thats is exactly what CAS concept addresses. "Give me THAT what she's having and i don't care where you would find it".

In a sense that is how your "archive.org" or "webcopier" or "archive.is" and similar services work, they "freeze" some snapshot.
Added bonus, though, "archive.org" technically can retroactively edit the saved page and corrupt its content, with CAS tools it is impossible. You can not make "wrong" movie match it's BitTorrent link.

Looks good?

There are IPFS-addons for Chrome and Firefox, and there is https://brave.com/ipfs-support/ - but they are focused on "saving" a picture, or a video, but not a web-page. Why?..

...Because for a place like this, for a forum and even a comment-less blog, that "clay table" idea won't work that well. It would mean you can not add comments (and B would not be able to delete troll comments) without making a NEW, unrelated document. And all the links you "saved" locally or "shared" with friends would not even know there was that update. Yet worse, would some troll attack B by posting some criminally prohibited content here - B would not be able to permanently delete it. Deleting is creating NEW document, but old ones remains "in the cloud" too. And if B would screw with the main article body - inevitable when writing about hot news - he would not be able to later update the story, add critical new information to it or remove a proven false bits.

Now, there are server-less networks built on this premise, the book is what is written on the cover, and whatever the author decides it is this very moment: i2p, zeronet; perhaps matrix and freenode too. They let you get updated pages at an old address. Providing for updated articles, forums, etc. It works, even if really slow. However then there is a risk that B "goes rogue" and vandalizes his blog and comments, for any reason. And then the links you saved or shared would not let you detect the act of vandalizing (because, technically, any edit with any intention is just edit) less so roll-back.

Maybe this new age of censorship would make these technologies evolve and find some reasonable solution to those problems, but i am not sure, they seem fundamental.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 7 2022 17:03 utc | 137

Does anyone have a link for the full story on this leak from US State Dept re: Nuland saying the sanctions on Russia will result in ‘less Europeans’ ? I’ve only seen Twitter screenshots, has anyone actually reported this? Full text of the leak?

Posted by: Pete | Apr 7 2022 9:59 utc | 2

Ignorant cunt. It would be 'fewer' Europeans

Posted by: Gigo | Apr 7 2022 17:03 utc | 138

Pope Francis kisses Ukrainian flag from 'martyred' Bucha

Posted by: librul | Apr 7 2022 12:37 utc | 32

There went any last shred of respect I once had for this Pope--his "greenwashing" lectures to the world without once mentioning overpopulation had already shredded it.

Just despicable.


Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 7 2022 17:09 utc | 139

The satellite images that supposedly confirm the "Bucha massacre" are from the company Maxar Technologies, which is part of the US Military-Industrial Complex, which questions its impartiality...The other companies are linked to Vanguard and BlackRock...

https://twitter.com/Amor_y_Rabia/status/1512023466589007879?cxt=HHwWjsC9oZ7V5PspAAAA

Not what you could bring in to an impartial trial....

Then, the Britons blocking an independent investigation at the UNSC....

White and in a bottle.....

Sargeant Colombo would have it clear...

Posted by: Givi | Apr 7 2022 17:10 utc | 140

It is my theory that they are testing to what extent the people will swallow blatant lies without protesting...

Posted by: Givi | Apr 7 2022 17:00 utc | 136

You seem to be ignoring time flow.

Actually that is salami tactics.

Time keeps going, and at one point those lies amass so much that it becomes "enough!" moment.
For you.
For you alone.
And then you rise - and you get lawnmowed, as all the people around you hysterically support "cleansing russian propaganda".

Then some time later there would be "enough! moment" for one of the people who cheered your downfall, and he would rise, and he would get crushed. Alone. As the "people left of him" would support his cleansing how he was supporting yours. And "people right of him" are long silenced, despirited and maybe dead.

So, when people would stop swallowing? If time rate properly managed, then never. There would never be any "people", but only few "discord sowing misfits".

Salami

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 7 2022 17:14 utc | 141

Like Galloway, this Irish MEP Clare Daly is Fire.

This is the sort of person that should be confronting Biden or Macron. Not to pussies they let in on their meetings.

https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1511947095711772674
https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1511626671824252934

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 17:16 utc | 142

"Morawiecki compared Russian President Vladimir Putin with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Pol Pot...."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 13:05 utc | 44

He left out Mao and Idi Amin.

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 7 2022 17:17 utc | 143

The court that ruled that Imran Khan's block of the no vote of confidence was illegal, has said the vote will go ahead this Saturday, its unclear if Mr Khan will survive the vote, though Western news outlets think he won't, one major reason they cite is that they say he's lost the backing of the military. If Khan loses the vote opposition parties will appoint a new prime minister who will govern until August 2023 when anew election will be held.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 17:17 utc | 144

Sesame Street meets Russian Reality.

Posted by: bjd | Apr 7 2022 17:22 utc | 145

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 7 2022 17:17 utc | 143

If we wait long enough he might mention Moses.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/poland-appoints-ex-banker-with-jewish-roots-as-prime-minister/

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 17:27 utc | 146

Video: https://twitter.com/A__Alimov/status/1511941140597157889
An attempt to humiliate an old woman who mistakes 🇺🇦 troops for 🇷🇺 soldiers and comes out to welcome them ends not in a way the ‘prankers’ expected. Offering her food, they desecrate the Victory Banner she carries. Yet the ‘babushka’ shows far more dignity than the ‘benefactors’.

Posted by: Sundial | Apr 7 2022 17:31 utc | 147

I find it funny when people complain about anti-Semitism and roam message boards like some sort of thought Gestapo.

I see no contradiction between being Jewish and being a Nazi. Half the Israeli political establishment consists of fascists. Everybody knows it, but nobody dares say so because of the Holocaust lever Jews like to exploit, as Finkelstein (himself a Jew!) has explained in detail.

Selensky is not really Jewish to begin with. He looks just like any other East European, not like real Jews, i.e. similar to Palestinians. That applies to many Israelis as well, who are ethnically Germans, Russians, Poles etc.

I also find it funny when the BND makes those claims about intercepted Russian communication. The Russians know that their communication is being intercepted, they have had that problem from the start of the operation. They are not so stupid as to talk about supposed killings, which of course they did not commit, anyway. Why would they talk about a specific guy on a bike?! That makes no sense, unless you fabricate proof for a specific case which you already know is out there on photos and videos, in order to support the war crime nonsense. In reality the war criminals are exclusively Ukrainians.
Those BND morons can't even tell the difference between a Ukrainian speaking Russian and a real Russian speaking Russian. Let them present the audio files to the public so that experts can analyze them.

Posted by: Nico | Apr 7 2022 17:32 utc | 148

part of the US Empire's propaganda mode.
the belligerent Evil Empire still has a stranglehold on many nations and areas of the world

I don't recall the US or any of its European lackeys being suspended, or slapped on the wrist even, from anything at the UN for any of their wars of aggression, from Vietnam to Nicaragua, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghan-i-Nam, Libya et. al. ...of course not, hypocrisy is the default of the Empire; and they control the purses and the world-wide narrative. alas


https://sputniknews.com/20220407/un-general-assembly-suspend-russias-membership-in-human-rights-council-1094563287.html

"....The UNGA voted 93 to 24 on Thursday, with 58 countries abstaining from the vote. It is the first time a permanent member of the UN Security Council has been forcibly removed from any UN body....."

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 7 2022 17:45 utc | 149

this has always been one of the reasons for the shutdown of dissent and especially russian sources (and/or ukie ones who present a "pro-russian" slant). block all that and make the basic folks who still watch consume media feel like a traitorous KGB sleeper agent for daring to read or discuss what's still available (official russian statements/SITREPs/etc) and you can "scoop" something people in donbass knew about 4 months ago.

it's like the US media complex are zuckerbergs and non-western sources are winklevosses. see also: "columbusing"

Posted by: the pair | Apr 7 2022 17:49 utc | 150

More and more information is now being confirmed about what is coming out of Mariupal. It's far, far worse than "just" NATO officers advising AZOV soldiers, it looks like these were "torture specialists" training AZOV troops on torture and terror tactics. Pepe Escobar is even suggesting there might be a torture and BIO-weapons testing center in Mariupal Link to twitter. I hope the Russians are able to capture each and everyone of these NATO Torture technicians and give them a nice public trial before they are hung, it's about time for some real consequences for these torture experts that the West has been exporting to the world for the last 60yrs

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 7 2022 17:51 utc | 151

Zelinsky is a Jew, how can there be nazis in the Ukraine?
150,000 Soldiers of the German Army Were Actually Jewish

Hitler was personally signing waivers to keep Jewish officers in his army and out of the ovens.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 7 2022 17:55 utc | 152

Ukrainian soldiers killing Russian POWs. My God, this butchery has to stop! Russia is only there to disarm and de-nazify the corrupt Zionist-Nazi-Capitalist puppet regime and this is the thanks they get?

Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Apr 7 2022 17:55 utc | 153

It’s a common mistake to lay blame on say the airline industry to make you take off your shoes and other invasive processes before you fly. They can really do whatever they like, you don’t own the industry or the airlines. You are only a passenger. So, it’s futile to blame the airlines for your mistreatment, for example.

Likewise, Twitter, YouTube, these are privately owned. So, you do not have your freedom of speech deprived if you are deplatformed. These companies are exercising their rights of ownership. You, for example do not own Twitter if you decide to publish there. So, it’s kind of futile to suggest that your freedom of speech is being deprived when or if they kick you off.

Of course, the power and scope of these companies could and probably should be challenged. But, I do believe if you stand out on the street anywhere in earth, or go to any wilderness, and wait patiently, if you have any ability to reason, and sort truth from fantasy, the word will eventually get to you. It just may take longer than current technology allows.

But, it is so convenient having reliable sources so readily at hand. I do hope the revolution is a success again, though I am apprehensive of what we may have before us to endure.

Posted by: Geoff | Apr 7 2022 17:59 utc | 154

If I were Russia, I would respond by abandoning the UN Human Rights declaration and replacing it with an independent one, that is not a Trojan horse for forcing Western ideas on everyone.

Posted by: Nico | Apr 7 2022 17:59 utc | 155

An "independent" Human Rights Council headed by Russia? Brilliant move. They have always shown themselves to be the best example an arbiter of Human Rights

Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Apr 7 2022 18:10 utc | 156

They have declared Den Totalen Krieg on Russia.

They want to see Russia collapse, knowing that an existentially threatened state will also be ready to use its last nuclear means.

That's why they don't escalate militarily.

In other words: The only way for us to mentally survive this madness is to realize that they are escalating at all levels EXACTLY BECAUSE they don't want to lead it on a military level and because they know they couldn't win it.

My read for today:
https://thesaker.is/the-true-importance-of-the-bucha-false-flag-a-crucial-change-of-narrative/

Posted by: njet | Apr 7 2022 18:16 utc | 157

Likewise, Twitter, YouTube, these are privately owned. So, you do not have your freedom of speech deprived if you are deplatformed. These companies are exercising their rights of ownership. You, for example do not own Twitter if you decide to publish there. So, it’s kind of futile to suggest that your freedom of speech is being deprived when or if they kick you off.

Posted by: Geoff | Apr 7 2022 17:59 utc | 154

They are the modern equivalent of a public forum in which there are numerous court precedents set regarding the exercising of free speech. If these platforms have rights of ownership as you claim then they should be legally responsible for the content that is published on their platforms. You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: One Too Many | Apr 7 2022 18:29 utc | 158

To understand this article, you might need to following to translate the jargon:

"breaking with recent precedent" = president says it instead of unnamed sources
"when the intelligence wasn’t rock solid" = totally fabricated intelligence
"to keep ... Putin off balance" = misinform the American public
"had to devote more staff [to] declassification process" = shift from collection to fabrication
"Observers of all stripes" = Democrat and Republican elites
"although not one without risks" = the public might catch on to our lies
"amazing display of intelligence as ... state power = amazing display of American gullibility
"blunted and defused" = confused
"pre-empt and disrupt the Kremlin’s tactics" = manipulate American public
"confidence in the accuracy... wasn't high" = no confidence in the accuracy
"defining how the war is perceived" = manipulating the public
"to strategically downgrade intelligence" = make shit up
"rigorous review process" = analysis of the manipulative impact on public
"protect sources and methods" = avoid responsibility for propaganda
"confident" = no evidence for or against
"biggest success" = greatest propaganda influence
"accurate predictions" = not yet disproved
"false flag attack" = imagined false flag attack
"video never materialized" = video never existed
"get allies on the same page" = bully our allies
"we lost information wars" = the truth leaked out
"saved lives" = served US government propaganda purposes
"strategy has its dangers" = public might catch on that we are lying
"damaging to U.S. credibility" = damaging to public credulity
"has used intelligence" = has fabricated intelligence
"has released information" = has released disinformation
"about things that are possible" = about things that are imagined possible
"Biden ... was less than definitive" = Biden was confused

Posted by: James McFadden | Apr 7 2022 18:32 utc | 159

UNHRC vote.

It is now time for Russia to turn off the Oil & Gas taps to the EU.
Ban all Commodity and Food sales to the EU.
Nationalize all unfriendly Nations Assets in Russia.
Default on all unfriendly Nations Debt repayments.
Confiscate and liberate Ukraine from the West.
Secure all Russian Boarders.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 7 2022 18:36 utc | 160

How US intel worked with commercial satellite firms to reveal Ukraine info
..from BreakingDefense. . .
>the power of information . . .shutter control
>recalling those evidential (not) satellite photos from NYTimes

SPACE SYMPOSIUM: Russia’s war in Ukraine has shown the power of open-source geospatial information in pre-conflict and war, both for deterrence, actually prosecuting military operations and disproving false propaganda. It’s an information victory (so far) that US intelligence officials said they helped coordinate with private satellite firms that have provided prompt imagery to friendly nations, news organizations and the public.
Of Ukraine, David Gauthier, director of commercial operations at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, told reporters Wednesday it’s “actually surprising to see that information advantage on the battlefield is so far countering superior equipment and mass. That is just amazing to see as an intelligence professional.
“The power of information is winning,” he told a panel sponsored by commercial remote sensing firm Hawkeye 360 in the margins of the Space Foundation’s annual Space Symposium in Colorado Springs, Colo.
Gauthier revealed his team at NGA “started to facilitate and coordinate independent private efforts to directly provide their products and services to Ukraine” even before the conflict began. NGA assisted the flow commercial imagery — from companies like Planet, Maxar, BlackSky and Capella — not only to Ukraine, but to European Command and NATO, he said.
But for all the success lauded by intelligence officials so far in the US government’s coordination with commercial enterprises, it’s also prompted a debate about just how much control the US government has, or should have, over what commercial remote sensing providers can release.
What happens if the US is involved in a conflict and doesn’t actually want commercial remote sensing firms to release images to the public or even sell them abroad? Can the US government prevent a US company from doing so?
Doug Loverro, former head of Pentagon space policy, explained that there is no overarching government right to stop a US commercial firm from sharing images or analysis of data it has been already licensed to gather. “The First Amendment,” he said simply.
That said, he noted that there are government-imposed restrictions on taking certain sorts of imagery in the first place. And the US government further has instituted so-called “shutter control” via contracts with providers in the past. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 18:46 utc | 161

something perhaps a little bit amusing

my take on much of this anti-Russian (and soon to be super anti-Chinese) sanctions business: the US Ruling Class and Elites are highly incompetent, near-sighted, but also viciously savage in their hatreds (while so often extolling their so-called traditions of free speech, liberal democracy, tolerance and diversity.)


https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1511506621762990082
Armchair Warlord @ArmchairW
I'm half convinced Putin is telling the Russian Army to slow down because the sanctions are boomeranging so badly and he's enjoying it.

https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1511437447351128078
"The financial system in Russia is near the brink of collapse," according to @PressSec. "It is more and more difficult for President Putin to fund this war every single day."

lmao!! like the Brits and their 'intelligence' said over a month or so ago, the Ruskies only have enough ammo and supplies, etc for another 10-14 days! hahaha
Follow the battle-field and not the propaganda-field

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 7 2022 18:48 utc | 162

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 17:16 utc | 142

Yeah, have to love Clare Daly! Sadly, in my lifetime I can only count a handful or so of politicians that have real guts. Just let me at the cloning facility (to combat the clown-manufacturing facility)!

Posted by: Seer | Apr 7 2022 18:55 utc | 163


Pepe Escobar, pulling no punches, on the shameful vote removing Russia from the human rights committee at the UN. Hypocrisy is ever the default of this US-centralized Global Empire

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1512116140318806018

And here's the Wall of Shame.

The Empire of Resentful Cowards and Liars, who's starving millions of Afghans to death and weaponizing the genocide in Yemen, got the UN General Assembly to suspend Russia from the Human Rights Council.
12:12 PM · Apr 7, 2022

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 7 2022 18:59 utc | 164

Great post b. One day this post will be what historians call a primary source. It calls to mind one of the most enduring and powerful statements in the history of historiography itself:

But the truest cause of this war and the one least often discussed was the growth of the Athenians to greatness and the fear this caused in Sparta. (Thuc.1.23.6)

All this talk, rhetoric, media blather and empty 'intelligence' will end up as so much undergrowth to be hacked away by historians years from now. All that will matter is what will only become clear long after: a crisis point was reached and a Rubicon was crossed.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 7 2022 19:00 utc | 165

re: human rights
The US State Department issues annual "country reports on human rights practices" (not covering the US of course).
The last report is for 2020. Here's an excerpt from the executive summary regarding Ukraine.

Significant human rights issues included: unlawful or arbitrary killing; torture and cases of cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment of detainees by law enforcement personnel; harsh and life-threatening conditions in prisons and detention centers; arbitrary arrest or detention; serious problems with the independence of the judiciary; abuses in the Russia-led conflict in the Donbas, including physical abuse of civilians and members of armed groups held in detention facilities; serious restrictions on free expression, the press, and the internet, including violence, threats of violence, or unjustified arrests or prosecutions against journalists, censorship, and blocking of websites; refoulement of refugees; serious acts of corruption; lack of investigation of and accountability for violence against women; violence or threats of violence motivated by anti-Semitism; crimes involving violence or threats of violence targeting persons with disabilities, members of ethnic minority groups, and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or intersex persons; and the existence of the worst forms of child labor.
The government generally failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity. Human rights groups and the United Nations noted significant deficiencies in investigations into alleged human rights abuses committed by government security forces. .
..and further in the report:
>As of November the State Bureau for Investigations had identified 61 alleged perpetrators of Euromaidan killings; most of whom absconded and were wanted. As of November the only three perpetrators who had been convicted were charged with lesser offenses, not murder, and received prison sentences ranging from three to five years.
>Impunity for abuses committed by law enforcement was a significant problem. The HRMMU reported that a majority of the torture allegations made against security forces from February to July were “disregarded.” . .here

NOTE:
Ukraine is a member of the UN Human Rights Council, term expires 2023. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 19:06 utc | 166

@ Geoff 154

I am mostly in agreement. Private companies should be able to do what they want and discriminate against who they want to discriminate against. of

The caveat is that government regulation must level the playing field for competing platforms to arise.

One can argue that along with providing a modicum needful services, government's other intrinsic job is to regulate monopolies with an iron fist.

We all knew that Facebook would burn out eventually. Twitter obviously read the tea leaves with regards to their censorship and how it was hurting their brand (the most dangerous thing for a media company like Twitter is to lose its cool edge), so they probably courted Musk to engage in a kabuki theater exercise with them whereby Twitter's leftist users would field dismayed at the thought of Musk taking a controlling share while on the flip bringing right-leaning users back into the fold, including Trump.

This once again presents a dangerous opportunity for nationalist-dissenters to once again get a word in, edge-wise, and continue to redpill the normies. But Twitter probably knows that and is gambling on its ability to contain the rising tide of populism while still being a propaganda outlet.

Musk is nothing more than a grade-a charlatan and concoction by the TPTB to carry on the legacy of the billionaire-industrialist mega-mind who can see into the future! If anyone has ever paid attention to what Musk proclaims from his megaphone, they would find him boring and thoroughly vision-less. He is certainly no Ford or Tesla. He is the cynical amalgamation of the two for public consumption.

Wittgenstein was quoted as saying that everything that can be said has already been said. When one encounters something ineffable, we must pay over it in silence. Loudmouths like Musk are superbly useless to the everyman but a great tool for distraction-ops for TPTB.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 7 2022 19:16 utc | 167

As a proof that they are laughing at the taxpayers, testing to which extend they can go, here the nazi Zelensky invited to talk to the Greek parliament ( of all parliaments, the craddle of democracy, eventhough now under Soros occupation...), just there was no other nazi with a more intelligent appearance to show...For the shame of the European communists, the Greek Communist Party was the only one remaining in Europe who protested in the streets of Greece the presence of Zelensky and his missing linmk at parliamentary seat..

https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/426278-zelenski-ceder-palabra-neonazi-batallon-azov-parlamento-grecia

This is ridiculous and it is clear that after what got through during the past two years, without any scientific evidence showed so far, they are now going over the top with the laughter...

Posted by: Givi | Apr 7 2022 19:17 utc | 168

Patroklos,

When I studied Greats at Oxford, the causes of the Peloponnesian War were one of the first things that we were asked to write an essay on. I don't agree with what you quote from Thucydides. At least I think it misses the larger truth, which I think is very relevant today.

Sparta attacked Athens because Pericles was careful to provoke her, with a series of provocations, so that she would bear the onus of having struck the first blow of a war between the two main powers. Similarly, today, Russia was provoked.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 7 2022 19:25 utc | 169

Similarly, today, Russia was provoked.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 7 2022 19:25 utc | 169

As I view things, without doubt it was a "zugzwang". Not a move to an automatics checkmate but one that eventually would have very favorable conditions to achieve it. Additionally I think it is coordinated with the Davos Club plans. There are no coincidences on this level of play.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 19:33 utc | 170

“Multiple U.S. officials acknowledged that the U.S. has used information as a weapon even when confidence in the accuracy of the information wasn’t high.”

A splendid euphemism for saying that the information was flat-out false or even fabricated

Posted by: Rob | Apr 7 2022 19:36 utc | 171

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 19:33 utc | 170

we'll see which group of nations was in zugzwang. all I see is the collapse of the US rules only based international order.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 7 2022 19:42 utc | 172

Gilbert Doctorow on the measures Russia is taking to neutralise sanctions.

And then there is this- intellectual stagnation in the narcissistic nation

"...Russian studies in the United States have been virtually useless to anyone for at least two decades. Taking the well known and respected Harriman Institute of Columbia University as a marker, I can say that apart from LGBTQ issues in Russia or Ukrainian films, the monthly program of events for the student body has zero on offer. The lectures and round tables on the Ukraine war today are talk between tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee, with all panelists reading from State Department briefings, no different from what the journalists in mainstream media are doing. Not an original perspective or thought to be found there. The field has been totally politicized into an anti-Putin street party and otherwise trivialized. There is no way that this esteemed institution could help anyone in Washington planning economic warfare on Russia to understand the resilience of the Russian side and the futility of their mission."
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 19:46 utc | 173

The only other country that I can recall being suspended from the UN Human Rights Council is Libya in 2011, later Nato killed at least 60,000 Libyans with its bombing campaigns, and in the process 144 tonnes of gold worth around $6 billion dollars at the then price held in Libya soon disappeared.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 19:47 utc | 174

@ njet | Apr 7 2022 18:16 utc | 157

Thanks for your daily saker. Interesting read:

Bucha is the Empire of Lies’ declaration of TOTAL war against Russia.

The implausibility of the received Bucha narrative is not a bug, but a feature of the social test we're undergoing, in Andrei's reading. Is there any plausibility limit, where it comes to swallowing whole (abruptly, like oysters) any damn lie about Russia? Apparently not.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 7 2022 19:47 utc | 175

Posted by: One Too Many | Apr 7 2022 18:29 utc | 158

Correct. Google, Twitter, YouTube, and Faceborg are monopoly trusts and should be regulated as public utilities. They're not privately owned or controlled, anyway, they're CIA assets, so it's all moot. The best people can do is migrate to alternative platforms, already happening.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 7 2022 19:53 utc | 176

Strong piece by Michael Hudson appearing on the Saker site today. He sees Ukraine as the beginning of WW3, long planned by Neo-liberal interests, with ultimate goal of destroying the programs and advancement of China under the CPC. He sees the EU now as essentially a vassal appendage, and recommends their switching over to US dollar currency - which yet may actually happen.

Was this the source of the freak-out over Trump's election?: that the developed plans to kick off the big showdown were suddenly at risk in Ukraine? It does look in retrospect that it took the return to office for, particularly, the State Dept people from the Obama period, to quickly get the operation rolling again with the Ukraine troop build-ups and threatened attacks last spring.

Posted by: jayc | Apr 7 2022 19:55 utc | 177

@ Tom_12 | Apr 7 2022 17:16 utc | 142

right on clare daly... thanks...

@ Republicofscotland | Apr 7 2022 19:47 utc | 174

thanks for that relevant bit of information...
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Posted by: james | Apr 7 2022 20:21 utc | 178

hitler was jewish
he had jewish ancestry,

so zelenskyy being a jewish nazi is real
since hitler also had commanders around him that were jewish!

this has been burned from history

Posted by: scv | Apr 7 2022 20:27 utc | 179

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 7 2022 14:02 utc | 57

Quite clearly the organised pseudo-Semitic censorship/cancel/deplatforming crowd are at it again attempting to stifle free speech and intimidate our host with quasi 'legal' action. Tellingly, their confected outrage and vehement denials speaks volumes.

My ancestors professed and practiced a Semitic religion. That does not make me a Semite or a descendant of SHEM no matter what funny hat I may or may not wear. No 'law' will ever make it so.

BTW, some of my best friends are Arabs and therefore genuine Semites.

I recommend this book by Professor Israel Shahak:

https://www.newsfollowup.com/docs/cm9-11/docs/gen/jewish_history_israel_shahak.pdf

I have three of his books.

His published 2001 obituary written by Elfie Pallis has been scrubbed from the internet by the Guardian. It begins with,

"He was spat at in the streets, called an "Israel hater"and received constant death threats, but human rights campaigner Israel Shahak, who has died aged 68, never wavered from his hope for compassion between Jews and Palestinians...."

Here is the WRMEA obituary,
https://www.wrmea.org/001-august-september/in-memoriam-israel-shahak-1933-2001.html

Posted by: Paul | Apr 7 2022 20:28 utc | 180

Putin's daughters are a threat to the rules-based international order (not) and must be sanctioned. The Treasury Department has identified the daughters being sanctioned as Maria Vladimirovna Vorontsova and Katerina Vladimirovna Tikhonova. One is a pediatric endocrinologist, the other a former competitive dancer turned tech executive.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 20:29 utc | 181

Music composed by Mikis Theodorakis for Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1fzDCRZM9g&t=1s

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 7 2022 20:32 utc | 182

Posted by: ge73 | Apr 7 2022 14:09 utc | 59

two matters which do not do much for the credibility of this site

(1) could you please remove the anti-semitic posts.
(2) in terms of atrocities there is never mentioned, among other things, the execution of prisoners by the Russians. Does this mean that you do not believe that this is occuring?

I have a question for you:

What jewish agency do you work for?

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 7 2022 20:38 utc | 183

people killed by the US due to faulty intel
...from NYTimes, Dec 18, 2021
THE CIVILIAN CASUALTY FILES
Hidden Pentagon Records Reveal Patterns of Failure in Deadly Airstrikes

The trove of documents — the military’s own confidential assessments of more than 1,300 reports of civilian casualties, obtained by The New York Times — lays bare how the air war has been marked by deeply flawed intelligence, rushed and often imprecise targeting, and the deaths of thousands of civilians, many of them children, a sharp contrast to the American government’s image of war waged by all-seeing drones and precision bombs. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 20:58 utc | 184

Anne B | Apr 7 2022 20:38 utc | 183

Answer: One of the 174+ comissaries for antisemitic matters in Federal Germany.

We can`t live without them. Try to criticize one of them.

Posted by: Piepenbrink | Apr 7 2022 20:59 utc | 185

Time for Russia to reveal a just a couple gentle pics of Biden Kompromat on both Joe and Hunter. Or perhaps the Trump pee Tape.

Shake up the test pattern a bit.

(Expensive (exclusive because expensive) "gentlemen's clubs" were established in Ukraine to claw back some of that dough Biden's and other "executives" were steadily looting. No doubt, there was sufficient kompromat obtained to shake the very foundations of "American democracy".)

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Apr 7 2022 21:01 utc | 186

@ Anne B | Apr 7 2022 20:38 utc | 183

exactly....

Posted by: james | Apr 7 2022 21:03 utc | 187

@ bevin 173
intellectual stagnation in the narcissistic nation
Yes. I've gassed-off before on the poor US education system which breeds adults to 'sit down and shut up, and we'll tell you what's what.' We are unable to do many things on our own, we must get guidance from 'experts' on what what to think and how to act.
We're dealing with that now, with people who hate Russians because they're told to hate Russians, along with the bogus 'news.'

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 21:07 utc | 188

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 7 2022 20:38 utc | 183 and others

The fact that these antisemimitic posts are going full bore at this site tells me everyone is demoralised.

Given B is based in Germany, I fully expect they will USE yours and others posts to shut the blog down. i assume you and others are probably actually linked to the authorities. ie you are fake crimes people.

Racism is racism. Look there are characteristics about every cultural group that I so not like or which I find amusing. However if it is wrong to hate all Muslims. all Arabs all blacks or all Chinese (which it is) and wrong to promote writings that encourage others to hate those groups, then it is wrong to promote works you write about.

Not sure why I bother because I assume you are a troll or manipulated by trolls.

How in the name of dog can I encourage others to the site if it is contaminated by racist filth, especially something ad emotionally charged as the protocols. But then you know that don you not. That is why you post it.

PS in terms of Russians shooting prisoners, I have not heard confirmation of this, but it would be very wrong. Of course i imagine there may be individual commanders who act badly, every side has them. I would expect them to be prosecuted if true.

Posted by: watcher | Apr 7 2022 21:11 utc | 189

re: my 184, behind a paywall
If you need help -- What I do after I learn about the paywall is to bring up the article again and IMMEDIATELY slap a Ctrl-A,-C on the page, then paste it to a notepad. It usually works, not always.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 21:14 utc | 190

Perhaps we need a Jew thread?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 7 2022 21:15 utc | 191

New posters and anti-semtism canard are here to forestall productive discussion. Directed, motivated. Not genuine. Never is.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Apr 7 2022 21:19 utc | 192

@186 "Time for Russia to reveal a just a couple gentle pics of Biden Kompromat on both Joe and Hunter. Or perhaps the Trump pee Tape.
Shake up the test pattern a bit."

It might take the attention of Will Smith for a day or two. Then they'll say it was fake. You know those Russians.

Posted by: dh | Apr 7 2022 21:22 utc | 193

Is the fixation on Jews here some kind of a black propaganda operation to discredit B's blog? Why for God's sake is that relevant to Ukraine?

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 7 2022 21:24 utc | 194

@190 Don Bacon

Excellent stuff you're posting. You're really on a roll today! I'm about to post a snarky comment re article in your previous link.

So you mean: Select All then Ctrl C Ctrl V? Thanks.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 7 2022 21:28 utc | 195

@Paul (180)

Re: Professor Israel Shahak.

May I recommend the deeply impressive lecture that prof. Shahak gave with Noam Chomsky:
part 1: Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak on Jewish Fundamentalism part 1.
part 2: Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak on Jewish Fundamentalism part 2
It's been long since I viewed these, but I seem to recall severe heckling during the Q&A -- maybe I ought to re-watch the lecture.


On a tangentially related issue (Israel), here's this from Joe Lauria at Consortium News today:
Israel, Russia Clash Over Ukraine.
That is an extremely interesting read.


Posted by: bjd | Apr 7 2022 21:30 utc | 196

Russian POWs are being tortured to death. Civilians are dying as militaries clash. Nazi Death squads, trained in the most up to date methods by the folks who brought you Abu Ghraib, Gauntanamo Bay and bloodstained Black Sites in Poland and other 'democracies.

...and here, one of the most reliable and honest forums for news and opinion left for the denizens of the Brainwashed Empire, half of the comments are about an obscure, oriental religion with a few millions scattered followers, compared to which a belief in fairies and mermaids is a major and highly sophisticated belief system.

Thus does NATO pursue the Information War.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 21:33 utc | 197

Correction: Those Death Squads dominate the streets of Kievan non-Rus.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 7 2022 21:34 utc | 198

The success of US "intelligence" in predicting the current war is the success of the arsonist predicting the fire he's been diligently working to start.

Posted by: Robert Macaire | Apr 7 2022 21:38 utc | 199

We used to happily accept the term Zionism here, can we go bak to that ? Its more honest and doesn't project hate against any ethnic, racial or societal group.
Hate is hate, and while I am on the subject I'm also not ok with endless analyses of why the "west hates Russia"
Western oligarchs covet russian natural resources.
The rest is propaganda. End of story.
All the hate including and especially religious is manufactured consent just like is happening right now. "Othering" is a very powerful force
I agree with Juliana that focussing on hate is a downward spiral and will not get us anywhere we want to be.
Love and tolerance is the only way through this, maybe the tough love that Russia is delivering in Ukraine right now. I do not understand anyone criticising Russia for trying to spare Ukrainian lives. Even if politically motivated, its the right and humane thing to do in a desperate and unwanted war.
I usually just ignore anyone getting invested in the for or against Jews, I'm 100% bored with the topic. its a well worn path and method of distraction, totally agree with Old Hippie.

Posted by: K | Apr 7 2022 21:41 utc | 200

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