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April 25, 2022
Ukraine – Railway Hits, U.S. War Aims, Ops Report

Updated below at 17:45 UTC

Last Thursday the first destruction of bridges along Ukrainian railway routes in eastern Ukraine took place. These were important for Ukraine's war effort and especially for the resupplies flowing from west towards the eastern front:

The Ukrainian military, like Russia's, depends on railways for all long distance mass supplies as both have relatively few logistic trucks.

The U.S. and others have said they would give the Ukraine dozens of 155mm towed artillery guns plus tens of thousands of shells with them. The U.S. guns come with one truck each to tow the gun.

That is all manageable so far but now let's look at the logistics (especially without railways). …

I have estimated that the Ukraine does not have enough trucks to replace railway logistics and those logistics are now falling apart:

The Eurasianist @Russ_Warrior – 10:09 UTC · Apr 25, 2022

The Russian Armed Forces hit 7 substations in western #Ukraine:
_ Zdolbunov (trains stopped in Dubno area, delay of the trains to Kovel), _ Kazatin-2, _ Krasnoye, _ Podolskaya, _ Sknilov, _ Slavuta (decommissioning of the entire area of Zdolbunov and Slavuta stations), _ Fastov


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The attacks have been confirmed:

Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM – 12:07 UTC · Apr 25, 2022

Ukraine state railway head Oleksandr Kamyshin on Telegram: “Russian troops continue to systematically destroy railway infrastructure. This morning, within an hour, 5 railway stations in central and western Ukraine came under fire.” 19 trains delayed; unknown number of injuries.

The 'substations' Russia destroyed are the electric ones which supply the electrified long range train routes.

Woofers @NotWoofers – 12:02 UTC · Apr 25, 2022

Electrical substation in Krasne, near Lviv was hit by a Russian missile earlier today. Much damage was caused and a large fire was started.
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The substations transform higher voltage to whatever the rail network needs. Without the substations, which are not easy to replace, most of Ukraine's locomotives will not run.

Some traffic will continue by using diesel locomotives. However, those are relatively rare as the Wikipedia entry for Ukrainian railways explains:

Number of locomotives – 1,944 (electric – 1,627, diesel – 301)

Diesel locomotives are slower than electrified ones. They also need a lot of diesel which has become rare in Ukraine and must be imported  by rail(!) from Slovenia.

Supplying additional diesel locomotives from other countries in eastern Europe will not be possible. The Ukraine has, like Russia, wide gauge tracks of 1,524 mm (5 ft). Most other European countries use a normal gauge of 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in).

Meanwhile the U.S. announced a vague new aim for its proxy war against Russia:

Austin was in Poland, answering questions from reporters after a brief trip Sunday with Secretary of State Antony Blinken to Kyiv, where the pair met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and other Ukrainian officials.

The defense secretary was asked how he defined “America’s goals for success” in Ukraine. He first said Washington wants to see “Ukraine remain a sovereign country, a democratic country, able to protect its sovereign territory.”

Then, he said, the United States hopes Russia will be “weakened” by the war. “It has already lost a lot of military capability and a lot of its troops, quite frankly, and we want to see them not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that capability,” Austin said.

Speaking in a hangar in Poland filled with crates of humanitarian aid, including diapers, destined for Ukraine, the top Biden administration officials announced more than $700 million in new military aid to Ukraine and other countries, and said the United States intends to resume diplomatic operations in Ukraine this week.

All the diapers, weapons and munitions the U.S. and other countries supply to Ukraine will now mostly be stuck in west Ukraine where they will rot until some clever Ukrainian oligarch manages to sell them off to some third country.

The fall out from the railway attacks will also hit civilian supplies in Ukraine. It will hinder civilian passenger traffic especially for people who have fled towards the west and now have less transport available to return home.

Since the war started Russia has intentionally avoided to hit civilian infrastructure in Ukraine. Electricity and communication networks as well as water supplies have all stayed intact. (In recent U.S. wars those were the first things it destroyed.) The attacks on the Ukrainian railway became only necessary after the U.S. and others provided more and more war materials to the Ukraine. Russia will not allow its troops to come under fire from those newly delivered weapons.

Despite warnings from Russia to Ukraine to not attack on Russian ground Ukrainian sabotage groups seem to have some success with destroying Russian infrastructure:

IWN @A7_Mirza – 14:22 UTC · Apr 25, 2022

#Russia #Ukraine
Large fire in #Druzhba oil depot in Russia's #Bryansk. Russia said it would investigate the cause of a large fire that erupted in the early hours of the morning at an oil storage facility in the city of Bryansk 154 km northeast of the border with Ukraine.
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This is the second large oil storage facility that in recent weeks suffered from such an accident or potential attack. However it is unlikely that this will hinder any Russian operation. Unlike Ukraine Russia has many refineries, very significant reserves and it can move large amounts of diesel by train throughout its country.

Next to its attacks on the Ukraine's traffic infrastructure to impede 'western' resupplies the Russian military continues to soften up the Ukrainian defense lines along the Donbas front. From this mornings 'clobber list' as published by the Russian Defense Ministry:

High-precision sea- and air-based long-range weapons on the northern outskirts of Kremenchuk destroyed fuel production facilities of an oil refinery, as well as storage facilities for oil products to supply military equipment of Ukrainian troops.

During the night, 6 enemy assets were hit by high-precision air-based missiles. Among them: 3 strong points and areas of concentration of manpower and military equipment, as well as 3 ammunition depots in Barvenkovo and Novaya Dmitrovka in Kharkov Region.

Operational-tactical and army aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 56 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 2 command posts and 53 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 1 fuel storage facility near Novaya Dmitrovka.

Missile troops carried out 19 strikes during the night. Destroyed: 4 command posts of the nationalists, including the 81st Separate Airborne Assault Brigade and the 110th Territorial Defence Brigade, and three ammunition depots. 21 areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration were hit.

Artillery units carried out 967 fire missions during the day. Destroyed: 33 command posts, 929 strong points, areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 5 missile and artillery weapons and ammunition depots.

Russian air defence means shot down 13 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Mezhurino, Balakleya, Borodoyarkoe, Nevskoe in Kharkov Region and Vysokoe and Chernobaevka in Kherson Region.

In addition, Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile and cannon system shot down 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U missile and 18 rockets of a multiple-launch rocket system over Chernobaeka.

Since phase two of the war started last week there have been no larger battles. What we have seen so far from the Russian side does not amount to more than armored reconnaissance.

The nearly 1,000 artillery missions in the last 24 hours and on the days before speak of intense preparations for upcoming attacks by Russian mechanized forces. Over all artillery will do the most damage to the Ukrainian troops. In World War II and other modern mechanized wars some 65% of all casualties were caused by artillery strikes. The recent rate on the Ukrainian side will likely be higher.

I have said several weeks ago that the Ukraine has not chance to win in this war. It is losing more and more people and its economy has nearly ceased to exist.

But the U.S. wants to 'weaken' Russia by fighting it to the last Ukrainian. Ukraine's president Zelensky is obviously willing to go with that program. He should instead agree to Russia's reasonable peace conditions. He is destroying the Ukraine by not doing that. 

Update 17:45 UTC

A Politico piece about the situation in Ukraine confirms my above take:

Heavy weaponry pours into Ukraine as commanders become more desperate

Western countries are rushing heavy weaponry to Ukraine as the war enters what promises to be a deadly, and potentially protracted, new phase.

Those deliveries are coming amid increasingly desperate pleas from Ukrainian battlefield commanders as they endure withering Russian artillery and rocket fire that could last weeks or months.

Here is a realistic view of how the war feels on the ground:

Eighty miles north of [Mariupol], First Lt. Ivan Skuratovsky, serving in the 25th Airborne Brigade, told POLITICO that help needs to come immediately.

“The situation is very bad, [Russian forces] are using scorched- earth tactics,” the 31-year-old married father of two said via text. “They simply destroy everything with artillery, shelling day and night,” he said via text.

He fears that if reinforcements in the form of manpower and heavy weaponry — particularly air support — don’t arrive in the next few days, his troops could find themselves in the same position as those in Mariupol.

Skuratovsky described his soldiers’ situation as “very desperate.”

“I don’t know how much strength we will have,” he said, adding that the troops under his command around the city of Avdiivka, near Donetsk, have gone without rest since the start of the war. At least 13 of them have been wounded in recent weeks, he said, and they are running dangerously low on ammunition, reduced to rationing bullets.

The day before, he told POLITICO his soldiers were being bombarded with Russian howitzers, mortars and multiple-launch rocket systems “at the same time.” Just hours earlier, he said, they had been attacked by two Su-25 warplanes, “and our day became hell.”

Skuratovsky had a message for the United States and other NATO countries: “I would like to tell them that grenade launchers are good, but against airstrikes and heavy artillery we will not be able to hold out for long. People can no longer endure daily bombardments. We need air support now. We need drones.”

I feel b´very sorry for these soldiers and curse their leaders who pushed them into this.

Alastair Crooke warns that the 'west' might escalate when it finally recognizes that its proxy war against Russia is lost.

The conviction that the European liberal vision faces humiliation and disdain, were Putin to ‘win’, has taken hold. And in the Obama-Clinton-Deep State nexus, it is unimaginable that Putin and Russia still regarded as the author of Russiagate for many Americans, might prevail.

The logic to this conundrum is inexorable – Escalation.

For Biden, whose approval ratings continue to tank, disaster looms in the November mid-terms.

The only possible path out from this approaching cataclysm would be for Biden to pull a rabbit from the Ukraine ‘hat’ (one that, at the very least, would distract from soaring inflation). The Neo-cons and the Deep State (but not the Pentagon) are all for it.

I hope that Biden is still competent enough to recognize that any escalation will lead to a much larger war and, in the end, to a much bigger defeat of 'western' forces than the one that will come in Ukraine.

Comments

Et Tu @267–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, Russia’s being conservative/cautious as it must. More gets revealed as we move forward in time–Lavrov’s interview yesterday that revealed a little more is an example. The use of NATO’s Terrorist Foreign Legion is another. The continual leaks about the biolabs is yet another. Today’s meetings with Lavrov/Putin/Gutterres will reveal more. The excellent legal brief by Kovalik published by RT completely upends the NATO narrative.
Yet escalation is already occurring and the reasons are being made overtly by NATO. But Putin and crew already anticipated that move and announced its rationale several days ago.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 15:51 utc | 301

I was able to access https://www.strategic-culture.org/ just now, no problem.
Tremendous OP by b, by the way, and excellent comments!

Posted by: Young4KY | Apr 26 2022 15:52 utc | 302

ZH reports Russia has halted delivery of natural gas to Poland

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 26 2022 15:53 utc | 303

b: “Diesel locomotives are slower than electrified ones. They also need a lot of diesel which has become rare in Ukraine and must be imported by rail(!) from Slovenia.” Should that be Slovakia?

Posted by: Coldish | Apr 26 2022 15:55 utc | 304

re turkey – from turkish press today –
Erdoğan talks to Putin for truce in Ukraine
Momentum in Istanbul talks should be maintained, Erdoğan tells Putin

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 15:56 utc | 305

Posted by: Rob | Apr 25 2022 17:10 utc | 34
“What puzzles me most is how Ukraine acquiesces in its own destruction. Do its leaders believe that their reward will be in heaven or Miami Beach? Do they have no concern for the tens of thousands of their countrymen who will be killed and the millions more who will be reduced to poverty or emigration, all to satisfy the lust for power and money by Western elites?”
I’ve been asking the same question of ALL Western countries. For decades immeasurable, invisible boogeymen have been trotted out by TPTB with little to no actual evidence, while the public obediently submits to whatever measure TPTB dictate. Be it the “war” on drugs, terror, climate change or more recently CoVid. The pattern is always the same: ignorance leads to fear, which leads to hate, which leads to violence & thus manufactured consent. Withdraw your consent & the machine grinds to a halt
Rinse & repeat.

Posted by: ianMoone | Apr 26 2022 15:58 utc | 306

Unnamed @301–
As I recall, I read that at RT, but I just did a search looking for that item and didn’t find it, although I did find this, “Turkey accuses NATO members over Ukraine”, and there are a few other related items.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 16:00 utc | 307

@Unnamed | Apr 25 2022 20:35 utc | 95
No problems here in your western neighbbour country with RT, Sputnik or Strategic culture. You need to pick your VPN server carefully though: India, Japan, … some US servers.
Some VPN’s allow only one device per subscription, could explain troubles with your phone.

Posted by: peter | Apr 26 2022 16:02 utc | 308

i’m on vancouver island… i can’t access strategic cultures link anymore… not sure why…
i can access rt though..

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 16:06 utc | 309

@ ianMoone | Apr 26 2022 15:58 utc | 307
ukraine isn’t in control of its own destiny… zelensky who was supported by kolomoisky in getting elected, is now being supported by the cia… when the cia is running your country, your destiny is not in your own hands anymore.. ownership of zelensky was transferred from kolomoisky to the cia..
Public Designation of Oligarch and Former Ukrainian Public Official Ihor Kolomoyskyy Due to Involvement in Significant Corruption

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 16:09 utc | 310

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25 2022 20:58 utc | 103
Hi Karlof1, can you let me know which specific Orlov’s essay at Saker’s you are referring to, I searched and found quite a few, thanks.
Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 10:06 utc | 264

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:11 utc | 311

Scorpion @165–
As I wrote several days ago, Russia will continue to provide Europe with hydrocarbons which in turn allows businesses to operate and homes to be heated–both of which are in the supreme interests of the hoi polloi. As we’ve seen EU elites want to completely cutoff Russian hydrocarbon imports which will destroy their economies and freeze their citizens. Thus, as in Ukraine, Russia is doing what it can to minimize negative fallout from its SMO on regular folk. It ought to be very clear by now that the Neoliberals don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves, whereas Russia and China’s basic policy is to uplift their human capital as they recognize it’s THE backbone of their nations. The ideological lines are thus West=Anti-Humanism; Multipolarworld=Pro-Humanism. For our struggle to become a Global Class War, the West’s citizenry must revolt against their Anti-Human Neoliberal Masters and thus bring to a climax the ongoing 4,000+ yearlong Class War pitting Creditors versus Debtors, which is the root of the problem tree.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 16:16 utc | 312

ETA @312–
See my reply @300.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 16:18 utc | 313

re ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:11 utc | 312 and ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:11 utc | 312
You ask about Orlov’s slanderous article, “Does Paul Craig Roberts like Genocide?” It was posted April 22 on the Saker site as a “guest analysis” (the article was first posted on Orlov’s new pay-for-view Boosty site that replaced Patreon). I am not posting the Saker link because I think this post might be deleted if I do.
Orlov refers to PCR as a “confused old man” who “missed a perfectly good opportunity to hang it up and fade away”, ending with the comment that what PCR wrote about the Russian SMO was “stupid”.
That was enough for me to cancel my Boosty subscription to Orlov. He is brilliant at times, but he is a pompous, conceited ass who thinks he is an expert on everything. He’s not — and his narcissism becomes revolting when it takes this form.
There are other ways to criticize someone than personal insults, but apparently Orlov thinks doing so makes him appear manly . . . just the opposite.
And the fact that the Saker chose to post the article says a lot about Andrei, too. PCR has been critical of the Saker’s take on the war but to post Orlov’s nasty hit piece has also changed my opinion of the Saker — he owes PCR an apology, but I doubt PCR would accept it. The Saker espouses lots of religious ideas . . . has he heard of “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”?

Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 16:28 utc | 315

sorry, I pasted ETA twice in my 316 post, meant to include karlof1 | Apr 25 2022 20:58 utc | 103

Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 16:30 utc | 316

Does the Secretary of State get rated?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 26 2022 2:50 utc | 193
If any poll asks US Americans whether or not they like Tony Blinken, I’m unable to find it. Could be they asked, then buried the results. Decades ago, a colleague from abroad told me “There’s no pravda in Izvestia, no izvestia in Pravda.” It has taken the general public several decades to catch up, out here in Oz. Blinken’s bunch are almost compulsively compelled to push the cognitive-dissonance envelope just a little bit too far. Maybe little cracks of awareness mar the unity carapace, sometimes.
I’m ideologically overwhelmed, informationally starved. Each time an old hero of mine belches more warmongering idiocy, the severity of my alienation tightens. The last severe blow — yesterday’s heartbreak — was Daniel Ellsberg. I can’t believe the stuff I hear from people like Daniel Ellsberg! Maintaining a hold on geopolitical reality feels like hanging onto a tenuous sapling in the middle of a rising river.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 16:30 utc | 317

Orlov’s nasty hit piece has also changed my opinion of the Saker — he owes PCR an apology
Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 16:28 utc | 316
What Orlov wrote would have been a “hit piece” if the content in question — the content which makes me question PCR’s competence — is manifestly genocidal. The garbage PCR writes these days is no better than that of mindless trolls driving by to urge that Russia bomb Kiev or Lviv back to the stone age. PCR has evidentlty lost his mind. I’m totally done with him.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 16:38 utc | 318

Sorry, I’m getting too garbled. PCR is yet another example of a former hero of mine in a very disturbing transition, as he urges genocidal behavior from Russia, for crying out loud! What’s up with that? I was horrified the moment I read it, before encountering Orlov’s fine piece.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 16:44 utc | 319

james@310…i’m also on vancouver island (victoria) & can no longer access SC. @ karlof1, thank you for your links & posts, i read them all & share, i hesitate responding with gratitude & appreciation each & every time as in these ravaged days i leave the board free for those with vital links (thanks to richard hack)…not that i feel acknowledging gratitude in such times is of no importance. thank you.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Apr 26 2022 16:45 utc | 320

Bloomberg has also reported that Poland is getting its gas supply cut off as it won’t pay in ruble …
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-26/russia-halted-gas-supplies-to-poland-onet-pl-reports-l2gapmmd

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:50 utc | 321

re: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 16:44 utc | 320
Sorry, Orlov’s work is hardly a “fine piece”. Although it is not the style these days, it is entirely possible to strongly disagree with someone without including a lot of personal insults.

Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 16:52 utc | 322

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 16:18 utc | 314
Sorry I missed that one, thanks.

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:52 utc | 323

UN chief Guterres said he had a “very frank” discussion with Lavrov about the need to end the conflict now, while Lavrov countered that Moscow is still waiting for a response to its latest proposals in peace talks with Ukraine.
“There is one thing that is true and obvious and that no argument can change — we have not Ukrainian troops in the territory of the Russian Federation but we have Russian troops in the territory” of Ukraine, Guterres said.

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:56 utc | 324

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 16:50 utc | 322
If Bloomberg is writing something about Russia it usually means the opposite. Russia just denied stopping the gas deliveries to Poland.

Posted by: Milos | Apr 26 2022 17:08 utc | 325

@ Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 16:52 utc | 323
Thanks for tolerating my fulminations, anyhow.
To your point of whether Andrei owes PCR an apology — for what? When people screw up as grievously as PCR has lately, I share Orlov’s questions about whether the old man is past his prime. Why should PCR go making himself ridiculous by presuming to know better than RF about proper military strategy? PCR looks like he’s full of crap on this, most grievously, because of the warmongering implications.
What particularly disappoints me in PCR: He’s so goddamned impressed with himself. He’s lost it, poor fellow. He should apologize to readers for continuing to write.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 17:10 utc | 326

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-finland-and-sweden-don%E2%80%99t-belong-nato-202002
Written by an editorial intern at The National Interest and a senior at Rutgers University.

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 17:13 utc | 327

Posted by: Milos | Apr 26 2022 17:08 utc | 326
European natural gas prices rose as much as 17% as Poland’s grid operator said it’s preparing for a possible cut in flows from Russia.
If Poland refuses to pay in ruble, will Putin continue to supply gas?

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 17:32 utc | 328

“Dear friends and fellow comentators: You are being deceived. Please stop over-analyzing the little war in Ukraine and commence fighting the really big, real war that it has been exploited to ignite. Thank you….
“This is necessary because the USian and EUian population must be distracted from the fortcoming Great Depression-II that is about to engulf the West. It will probably not occure in the East, so this distraction and hatred is absolutely necessary. The real war is not in the Ukraine: The real war is occurring within the minds of the subjects of the Western totalitarian dictatorship. You my friends are the real soldiers.”
Posted by: blues | Apr 24 2022 17:32 utc | 7
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This ^^^ by blues in Open Thread 54 is key to this by karlof1 above:
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“The ideological lines are thus West=Anti-Humanism; Multipolarworld=Pro-Humanism. For our struggle to become a Global Class War, the West’s citizenry must revolt against their Anti-Human Neoliberal Masters and thus bring to a climax the ongoing 4,000+ yearlong Class War pitting Creditors versus Debtors, which is the root of the problem tree.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 16:16 utc | 313
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Some have observed that the West’s corporate media machine has failed utterly against the peoples of Russia, China and most of the rest of humanity, and only had the success we have seen against the peoples of its own countries. Mercantile colonialism became industrial capitalism but was twisted into becoming neocolonial, neoliberal, permanent scarcity finance capitalism. This was not only to globalize its domination but also was a means of weakening and co-opting the metropolitan empires’ domestic working classes.
The threat finance capitalism sees from China, allied with Russia, is that socialist China has harnessed capitalism, kept it from being co-opted by the banks and is making it play its historical role generating the abundance that is the basis for real socialism—and is now taking this global through its New Silk Road/BRI and a non-dollar based win-win system of finance and trade.
Now on its last legs finance capitalism is playing its last power card, that of its media machine, to dominate the information dimension of the unfolding global struggle. This is really about the US and its vassals defending imperialism’s base in the old colonizing powers and settler states, whose working classes are the real targets for deceive, distract, divide and rule.
After all, what happens to empires when they have no colonies to exploit? This is why we are now so besieged by a propaganda barrage dwarfing any in history, by censorship via filters, DDoS, battalions of trolls and by mounting accusations of treason for all who challenge the Empire of Lies. As blues so sharply put it, we are the real soldiers here.
When the people of the Empire, its vassals and settler states rise up, the last block to sovereignty, peace and the abundance necessary to build global socialism will be removed.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2022 17:34 utc | 329

re: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 17:10 utc | 327
I will agree that PCR is intolerant and has become the epitome of someone who will not suffer a fool gladly. I like his audio interviews much better than most of his written articles. When he speaks, he comes across much better and much more reasonably. He has so much anger at the endless domestic and international atrocities committed by the US/Western political “elite” [sic] that when he writes, he often becomes overly extreme in both his language and his directives.
That said, I still remain interested in his take on things.

Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 17:47 utc | 330

Posted by: donten | Apr 25 2022 22:23 utc | 132

“…America is an ocean away…”
The hypersonic systems eliminate the protection of the “moat.”

Sorry, I still don’t see the relevance.
The point I was making is that it makes no sense to present the current state of conflict as having a negative impact on the US. We are unarguably talking about a conflict in Europe, pitting Europeans against Europeans. The destruction is exclusively European. The economic, diplomatic and societal damage is also European. In the longer term, a wider conflict will certainly have an inhibiting effect on the development of the continent as a whole.
America is indeed an ocean away. It is in fact making money from arms sales as NATO replenishes its inventories, regardless of Russian hypersonic missiles.
Now, the argument I am making is that this destruction, radiating in every direction out of Ukraine, is very much part of a plan by the Empire. This is what I mean by zero sum great game.
Consider that if we barflies all agree the Empire is facing decline, then it would make sense that it too has come to the same conclusion. Expecting the Empire to roll over and lose all its gains without a fight would be out of character. I am convinced it has been studying various models with the express intention to mitigate its own decline.
Consider that the Empire’s economic model is one of tithes, rents, extortion, theft and undue privileges. These means of subsistence are all based on dominance. When given the choice, players on the lower end of the scheme will opt out and seek win-win models. As for those higher up on the pyramid, they become direct competitors as the income dries up. This is where Europe stands. Likely competitors for resources and markets but also for influence in all fields such as culture, academia, sports, etc.
The biggest fear for the Empire, which seems obvious to me at least, is a continent-wide bloc working in cooperation.
What I’m seeing so far is a wider attempt to undermine the development of this competing bloc. Not only is non-Russian Europe voluntarily surrendering its independence and placing its fate in Imperial hands, it is actively participating in its own demolition.
TLDR: “We’ve always been at war with Eurasia”

Posted by: robin | Apr 26 2022 17:56 utc | 331

@ Perimetr | Apr 26 2022 17:47 utc | 331
I’m grateful for your spirited defense of someone I once admired. Some things people say are too much to tolerate. In my view (and Orlov’s, I take it), PCR has verged far beyond mere intolerance into apparent madness. From Orlov’s (fine, imho) piece:

Apparently, Roberts feels that Russians should kill millions of other Russians in order to impress the West. That’s really cute, you know, in a genocidally maniacal sort of way, but completely impossible.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 26 2022 18:05 utc | 332

Does the Secretary of State get rated?
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 26 2022 2:50 utc | 193
If any poll asks US Americans whether or not they like Tony Blinken, I’m unable to find it.

Such a survey would be pointless. After all, a 2017 survey demonstrated that only 37% of Americans could name their own Congresscritter. It would be reasonable to assume that a majority of Americans, and perhaps an overwhelming majority, has no idea who Blinken is.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 26 2022 18:26 utc | 333

I wonder why nobody mentions the voting pattern in the last 30 years in Ukraine and which cities, Mariupol, Odessa, Kharkov voted against the Maidan “revolution”.
The war is happening in the anti Maidan areas. The notion that the Russians would attack the civilians there is ridiculous.

Posted by: RJB | Apr 26 2022 18:35 utc | 334

Vintage Red @330–
Thanks for your additional commentary! IMO, the bar needs to be brought back to the Big Picture about once a month if not more often. And I really need to devote some time to writing a new essay as many new sources are available providing fresh details. I’m glad I revisited this thread!

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 18:43 utc | 335

Foreign Policy –
China Is a Declining Power—and That’s the Problem
The United States needs to prepare for a major war, not because its rival is rising but because of the opposite.
Substitute China with the Empire of Lies …
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/24/china-great-power-united-states/

Posted by: ETA | Apr 26 2022 19:12 utc | 336

I live in BC, Canada, and in only the last couple days strategic-culture.org has not been able to load (“This site can’t be reached”). I am using Chrome – do the people who can still reach the site have a different url, or use a different browser?
For those who want to read the Alasdair Crooke piece b linked to, it is available at https://thealtworld.com/alastair_crooke/the-dynamics-of-escalation-standing-with-ukraine.

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 26 2022 19:30 utc | 337

@ Lorna MacKay | Apr 26 2022 19:30 utc | 338
i’m on vancouver island, like @ emersonreturn | Apr 26 2022 16:45 utc | 321 above… i am using brave browser… for some reason shaw or telus is not letting it happen.. thanks for the alternative link…

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 19:34 utc | 338

@ RJB | Apr 26 2022 18:35 utc | 335
you are paying attention.. you are supposed to believe the western msm with its upside down version of reality..

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 19:42 utc | 339

As of tomorrow at 08:00 (in the morning) CET, Poland will no longer receive gas from Russia, due to its refusal to pay in rubles. It appears the flow through the Yamal pipeline has already been halted. This will probably also affect Germany, since it receives its via this pipeline, which passes through Belarus and Poland. The latest news is that Russia will also, as of tomorrow, end supplies to Bulgaria. Better late than never! Hopefully, all of Europe will soon be cut off.
(I would provide links, but the filter blocked my post once already.)

Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 26 2022 19:47 utc | 340

Correction: “…also affect Germany, since it receives much of its natural gas via this pipeline…”

Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 26 2022 19:49 utc | 341

Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 26 2022 20:21 utc | 190
Excellent points in #190. NATO strategic planners know very well that Russian military strategy is a function of feckless, impotent leader Putin who talks a good game but is incapable or plain shit-scared of imposing costs on his enemies (outside Russia). Escalation dominance will remain with NATO. Russian soldiers will continue dying needlessly for the foreseeable future since a fearful Putin will keep blocking his military from targeting Ukrainian infrastructure. The blind Putin fanboys here are unable to explain Putin’s failures beyond bleating and whining about moral platitudes. Guaranteed that western military strategies have already planned for multiple attacks on Russian soil and as long as the coward Putin remains in power, there will be no consequences beyond Lavrov & Zhakarova’s usual whining about the unfair, immoral west.

Posted by: Jar Blnken | Apr 26 2022 20:52 utc | 342

@ Jar Blnken | Apr 26 2022 20:52 utc | 343
i’m just curious jar… how did you figure it worked out for the usa – nato with regard to syria?? can you tell me how that worked out from your point of view? thanks..

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 21:14 utc | 343

ps – jar… there is no Unnamed | Apr 26 2022 20:21 utc | 190 post on this thread…. you making shit up, or pulling that from a different thread? or did b delete it??

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 21:24 utc | 344

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 21:24 utc | 345
Its 190 in the Gonzalo Lira thread, my mistake. And as far as your previous message, there was no escalation issue in Syria, clear demarcation into western and eastern zones of influence. Whereas in Ukraine, facts on the ground state that Russia only makes empty threats about retaliation, I can assure you NATO strategic planners have taken Russia’s cowardice into account. Wishing against it doesn’t make it true.

Posted by: Jar Blnken | Apr 26 2022 21:51 utc | 345

@ Jar Blnken | Apr 26 2022 21:51 utc | 346
okay.. thanks jar… fair enough.. you might want to respond to the actual thread then, as opposed to this one! below you will find the article that unnamed replied to from a post by a poster et tu, also on the other thread… the way i read the article, it is a complete piece of crap!! so i see it exactly opposite unnamed and et tu, and now you obviously! we are going to have to agree to disagree here…
the reason i draw a parallal to syria here, is i recall a number of posters saying the same thing towards russia when russia entered into the syrian war 2014- 2015… they kept telling everyone how russia is fucked, and russia isn’t doing things right and russia should do this and that and frankly, they have been proven wrong… i hate to say it, but i think you, unnamed and et tu are going to be proven wrong here as well…. this is my last post on this.. you can have the last word… as for et tu and unnamed – they are now going onto my ignore list… cheers jar – james.. – ps, the top 2 comments ( responses ) to this article is more how i see it..
Russia says it’s fighting the whole world. Has anyone told Putin?

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 22:05 utc | 346

here is a much more informed read from substack!
One Flew Over The (West) Cuckoo’s Nest

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2022 22:09 utc | 347

@james | Apr 26 2022 19:42 utc | 340
While I appreciate your comment, I fear it is somewhat belittling what is going on, in Ukraine as the most radical, but elsewhere in the West, too. In a way, as somebody wrote, not Ukraine was Europeanising, but infecting Europe, Ukrainising it.
The crusade against everything Russian started in Ukraine already in 2004, and radicalized in the Maidan catastrophe. It has reached new lows since 2019, and worse now during wartime where Ukraine completely dropped into barbary.
But the west is not so much better. The crusade against Russian culture is going on, targeting writers like Tolstoi and Pushkin, painters, composers like Chaikovsky, and all heritage from the anti Hitler coalition. Worst in the Nazi shitholes in the Baltics where war cemetaries are desecrated, anti fascist symbols like the St.George ribbon outlawed.
It goes on further west. In Germany, where unlawful signs like the “Wolfsangel” are tolerated, the letter Z is banned, as is showing the St.George ribbon in demonstrations. Russians are harrassed, even attacked.
In the economy, a “de-Russification” is ongoing, Green fascist Habeck even bragging about. It reminds much of “Arisierung” and “Entjudung” of economy, culture, and public life during the first years of Nazi rule. And no, there was no Holocaust those times. The open Holocaust started June 30, 1941, in Lemberg (Lvov/Lviv), executed by OUN Bandera thugs, outlined in the planning paper “Struggles and Activities” by Bandera months before, and approved by the Reichssicherheitshauptamt. The OUN hordes and Galician mobs murdered 4000 Jews on a single day, and over 100,000 during July, 1941.
Just a remembrance of the “Hero of Ukraine”, the abomination, terrorist, and mass murderer Bandera, and the “defenders of the fatherland”, the OUN criminals.
At least, the Russians are not defenseless as the Jews were those times.

Posted by: aquadraht | Apr 26 2022 23:13 utc | 348

@ aquadraht | Apr 26 2022 23:13 utc | 349
thanks for your comment… it was not my intention to belittle the magnitude of what is happening here… i agree with you in all that you say…it isn’t just the level of propaganda in the west that is feeding into all this, but also a certain type of political activity – i call it the woke movement and cancel culture – where people are marginalized or worse in this case thru a cultivated hatred towards russia which is unwarranted and very scary in fact… it disturbs me to see all this happening and i wish it wasn’t happening, but it is… i would like this to be over, but i fear it is far from over and will be prolonged… at this point everything the west stands for is not anything i stand for and i live in the west – canada… it is wrong what is happening and i am only one voice in a sea of people… i think we can each individually make a difference however..

Posted by: james | Apr 27 2022 0:23 utc | 349

Richard Steven Hack | Apr 26 2022 3:24 utc | 198

Shell and Chevron pulled out of the big $10 billion deal back in 2010-2014, partly due to Ukrainian tax reasons and partly due to the civil war, and I’ve also heard that the fracking was likely to not be profitable.
None of that proves that Ukrainian gas in eastern Ukraine isn’t on the minds of the people behind this situation.

The link I provided yesterday included the snippet that

Ukraine has been imposed an erroneous model of energy dependence. Rather, a very clear model of energy dependence was imposed. Instead of increasing its own production, there was a purchase of gas in Europe from intermediaries, due to which its price was overestimated.
Commissions to intermediaries are on average 30-50 euros for each thousand cubic meters, according to one source, or 35-50 dollars based on calculations of the difference in average prices in Europe and Ukraine.
In order to make this business profitable, the domestic gas price in Ukraine for consumers, both commercial and citizens, has been raised by about 10 times in recent years.
Own gas production in Ukraine by the state-owned company Ukrgasvydobuvannya decreased compared to 2014: according to the official data of Naftogaz, UGD produced 17.2 billion cubic meters of gas a year, last year – 16.6 billion cubic meters.
http://www.naftogaz.com/www/3/nakwebru.nsf/0/74B2346ABA0CBC69C22570D80031A365
A few years ago, the head of Naftogaz announced an ambitious 20/20 program that provides for an increase in gas production by 2020 to 20 billion cubic meters per year. In July of this year, Andrei Favorov acknowledged the failure of this program. Meanwhile, according to him, UAH 40 billion was spent on its implementation.
In other words, they killed their own flow for the sake of their own income.
Because, the more Ukraine would produce, the less import would be.
And the less import would be, the less they would be able to steal on every thousand cubic meters.

The oligarchs have vested interests in NOT developing Ukraine’s gas.

Andrey Favorov, citizen of Russia and the USA.The repatriate from Moscow to the USA, has Odessa roots, worked for the American company AES in third world countries; Since 2009, he has been working in the AES affiliate Global affiliate in Eastern Europe.
Under Yanukovych, DTEK was invited to Rinat Akhmetov’s company to establish gas imports from Europe. In 2013, he signed as a deputy director for commercial activities at DTEK a contract for the supply of natural gas with the Polish company PGNiG, which later became the base partner of his company ERU. He participated in the creation of the Swiss offshore DTEK Trading SA, especially for the import of natural gas from Europe. He has partners and experience in creating schemes related to the import of Euro-gas for Ukraine.
Andrey Favorov was appointed head of the Integrated Gas Business Division of Naftogaz in November 2018.

Posted by: Dadda | Apr 28 2022 2:39 utc | 350

Apparently, Saker links now block comments. The essay is on Saker’s main page and is titled “Does Paul Craig Roberts like Genocide?”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2022 15:36 utc | 301

https://thesaker.is/does-paul-craig-roberts-like-genocide/
318 comments currently.
Yankees cannot understand Russians, because they are racists and think that the others cannot think differently from them. The western governments support the nazis because they have the same values: we cheat, we lie, we steal. And we kill.

Posted by: Olivier | May 1 2022 23:46 utc | 351