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April 28, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-56
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …
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New: Posted by: Dean Oneil | Apr 28 2022 12:14 utc | 1 https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-german-lawmakers-overwhelmingly-approve-heavy-weapons-deliveries/a-61618357 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 28 2022 12:27 utc | 3 >>>>: anon2020 | Apr 28 2022 12:27 utc | 3
Means your average electrician, plumber or mechanic can’t maintain them as they require highly trained engineers to do so. Just as useful to UAF as Gepard SpAAGs Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 28 2022 12:32 utc | 4 … Just as useful to UAF as Gepard SpAAGs Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 28 2022 12:39 utc | 5 President Putin met with members of the Council of Lawmakers Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 12:40 utc | 6 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 28 2022 12:39 utc | 5 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 12:43 utc | 7 Scott Ritter’s Telegram channel just posted another of his “two-minute analyses” where he covers a specific topic. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 12:49 utc | 8 From Sputnik News Telegram channel… The ol’ “military exercises” excuse… Where have we heard that one before? Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 12:57 utc | 9 Which German weapons have been combat-tested since 1950 ? Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 28 2022 13:02 utc | 10 A most interesting development. Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Apr 28 2022 13:12 utc | 11 The West is making such appalling decisions that this whole thing has got massively out of hand and they are not in any way in control. God knows what Poland think they are playing at. NATO could stop this by saying Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO or the EU. They could easily accept Crimea is part of Russia as is the Donbass region since the Referendums are going to say yes to this in any event. No big deal really. But no. They are full of such hatred they cannot make sensible decisions of any kind. The West is morally and intellectually bankrupt. Von den Leven seems to have completely lost her marbles. What a bunch of morons to have as world leaders. Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 28 2022 13:14 utc | 12 From Intel Slava Z Telegram channel… Two more morons out of the picture… Apparently they didn’t realize the Javelins are no good against artillery, which Russia uses to prepare the objective for an armor advance…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:14 utc | 13 Polish troops entering western Ukraine offer interesting scenarios. Posted by: Abe | Apr 28 2022 13:17 utc | 14 As I pointed out an hour or so ago in the previous thread, Poland expects to pull off this “humanitarian intervention/labd grab” 1) without a NATO mandate, but with “volunteer states” – of which they have none, and 2) without being challenged by Russian forces. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:17 utc | 15 Rumours that Boris` last visit to Kiev was to hand deliver UK passports to Zelensky and his family plus other associates. Posted by: DaVinci | Apr 28 2022 13:17 utc | 16 “… 90 US towed 155mm howitzers are not going to affect the outcome.” Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2022 13:20 utc | 17 From Intel Slava Z Telegram channel… Kalibrs, rev your engines!
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:23 utc | 18 From Donbass Insider Telegram channel forwarded from Eurasia and Multipolarity…
They don’t carry it to its logical conclusion – Putin very likely means all of Ukraine. But as I’ve noted before, Putin is very, very careful with what he says. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:31 utc | 19 Nice chap that Boris. Hope the passports come with a lifetimes free supply of Coke….and not the one in a svelte shaped bottle. In case Bojo is listening. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2022 13:34 utc | 20 https://youtu.be/twsKfVjz5sk Posted by: Jog99 | Apr 28 2022 13:34 utc | 21 I am an expert in military drones since 1997. I have been a lurker for a couple of months now. Drones can be very useful for small unit recon. What is available a higher altitudes is quickly dispatched by air defense (esp. Russian), I am also an expert on foreign air defense since 1979. Hung up my slide rule the first working day of 2013. Posted by: Mad Dog | Apr 28 2022 13:37 utc | 22 https://thecradle.co/Article/news/9646
Posted by: Sundial | Apr 28 2022 13:37 utc | 23 Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:14 utc | 13 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 28 2022 13:40 utc | 24 In regard to UAVs (which everyone calls drones): Years ago I recall the development of loitering munitions and thought they could be a game changer. Fast forward to the Armenian Azeri conflict and thanks in part to Turkey, they were. As RSH mentioned above, there is a relationship between size, effectiveness and countermeasures. It seems as though the RF air defense has been taking down quite a few of them, but all it takes is one to make a hit on a sensitive target. EWF jamming could also be a factor. One thing that struck me is how the Houthis managed to cobble together “po-boy” versions of loitering munitions/cruise missiles to decent effect. As always, it’s a game of countermeasures and we seem to have entered a new era where the little guy can get access to potential damaging hardware thus making it a bit more challenging for an occupier. Posted by: Chevrus | Apr 28 2022 13:46 utc | 25 From Colonel Cassad Telegram channel forwarded from Rybar… More on Transnistria situation…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:57 utc | 26 Interesting read by Engdahl. Russia is going to be blamed for severe food shortages as a result of the “Putin Price Hike” but as Engdahl lays out the shortages will be a result taken decisions made by Western leaders prior to the SMO
Biden Cynically Uses Ukraine to Cover Food Sabotage Posted by: Down South | Apr 28 2022 13:59 utc | 27 @annon2020 Posted by: El Sid | Apr 28 2022 14:18 utc | 29 Rumours that Boris` last visit to Kiev was to hand deliver UK passports to Zelensky and his family plus other associates. Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 28 2022 14:19 utc | 30 Well Union Pacific has quite a Vanguard/Black Rock holding on the Share Register……..just as at CF Industries…….funny that ! Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 28 2022 14:23 utc | 31 So the UK’s Foreign secretary Liz Truss(according to radio news) has said that the war in Ukraine is the UK’s war, that the UK is the lead nation in the war against Russian forces in Ukraine, and that we (UK) must give Ukraine the heavy weapons it needs to win this war. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2022 14:26 utc | 32 By: Express News Service | New Delhi | Posted by: SailorsWife | Apr 28 2022 14:27 utc | 33 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 28 2022 12:39 utc | 5 Posted by: Kim | Apr 28 2022 14:32 utc | 34 The Gray Lady is very much in the camp that a wider war is coming, is inevitable, and is a good thing. Today we learn Biden will address the nation on Ukraine, and then there are stories about fears of a wider war. Not a word about anti-war activities or views, or any push back. I saw an article claiming that 75 percent of Americans support the Ukrainian side and are against the Russians. Either our leaders have gone crazy or they are convinced that Russia will never use the nuclear option. Posted by: Boomheist | Apr 28 2022 14:41 utc | 35 The truly idiotic Liz Truss does not speak for the people of Scotland. Posted by: Merkin Scot | Apr 28 2022 14:46 utc | 36 #—Nice chap that Boris. Hope the passports come with a lifetimes free supply of Coke….and not the one in a svelte shaped bottle. In case Bojo is listening. Posted by: Anne Brit | Apr 28 2022 14:51 utc | 37 @ Richard Steven Hack 8, Chevrus 25 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 14:52 utc | 38 I think WW3 is about to go Global. Posted by: Kim | Apr 28 2022 14:53 utc | 39 Posted by: Boomheist | Apr 28 2022 14:41 utc | 35 Posted by: JMW | Apr 28 2022 14:56 utc | 40 “Russia cannot allow the creation of anti-Russian territories around the country,” the president stressed. Posted by: njet | Apr 28 2022 14:58 utc | 41 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:23 utc | 18 Posted by: Kim | Apr 28 2022 14:58 utc | 42 #– Posted by: Anne Brit | Apr 28 2022 14:59 utc | 43
On the matter of Russia/404, the SNP is not one whit better. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 28 2022 15:00 utc | 44
It’s probably just a coincidence that Elon Musk is tweeting about buying the Coca-Cola Corporation and putting cocaine back into its signature product. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 28 2022 15:02 utc | 45
Would be nice if he were even remotely as interested in the welfare of the USA. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 28 2022 15:04 utc | 46 #22 Mad Dog Posted by: Brother Ma | Apr 28 2022 15:04 utc | 47 @Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2022 13:20 utc | 17 Posted by: Richard L | Apr 28 2022 15:17 utc | 48 @ Kim 39 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 15:17 utc | 49 https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1519447474250960899
Posted by: Sundial | Apr 28 2022 15:18 utc | 50 This is perhaps the Polish dream? Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 28 2022 15:19 utc | 51 Re: Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:23 utc | 18 Posted by: Mongo | Apr 28 2022 15:22 utc | 52 @ Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 15:17 utc | 49 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 28 2022 15:23 utc | 53 “… 90 US towed 155mm howitzers are not going to affect the outcome.” Posted by: Qtto | Apr 28 2022 15:28 utc | 54 We keep speeding towards direct confrontation between the empire (U$A), and Russia. The U$A through its mouthpiece L. Austin, has made it perfectly clear, the goal is to weaken Russia. So, if Russia relents in Ukraine, they’re toast. Not exactly a recipe for a fair settlement. Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 28 2022 15:37 utc | 55 @ anon2020 #5 Posted by: Altai | Apr 28 2022 15:39 utc | 56 New extremes of escalation as reportedly Ukrainian troops mass at the border of Transnistria and there appears to be lots of Romanian troops on the border of Moldova (which was just strong-armed into joining sanctions on Russia). Posted by: ChasingGlowies | Apr 28 2022 15:43 utc | 57 Either Ukrainian leadership is driven out of Ukraine or Russia fails its 2 objectives to love to a tenacious Vietcong of home-grown Neo-Nazi, predictably a death by a thousand cuts and days. The clock now ticks loudly as the various vultures now are nearly gathered. Posted by: Lars Lansing | Apr 28 2022 15:45 utc | 58 RT has a long background article on Transnistria up for those who might not have seen it. Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 28 2022 15:45 utc | 59 So crazy when you think about it. Everything was fine before the Americans messed everything up. Europe got cheap energy, Russia was minding its own business. There was no need for all this craziness. It’s all the result of the sick psychopathic American mind. Posted by: Nico | Apr 28 2022 15:55 utc | 60 Rewriting and re-fighting World War 2 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 28 2022 15:56 utc | 61 European/Western Madness, Italian Edition Posted by: MD | Apr 28 2022 15:56 utc | 62 “On the matter of Russia/404, the SNP is not one whit better.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2022 16:00 utc | 63 The lack of sportsmanship is also fatal. There is a war between two neighbors, wouldn’t be the first one. We should let them settle things between them and stay out of it. May the better one win, the other one accepts defeat and things can normalize. But no, the West can’t seem to live with the idea that Nato loses the proxy war after it has had such a big mouth and invested so much money in that rogue Ukrainian nazi regime. Posted by: Nico | Apr 28 2022 16:01 utc | 64 #50 Sundial Posted by: Brother Ma | Apr 28 2022 16:01 utc | 65 Posted by: Jo Dominich | Apr 28 2022 13:14 utc | 12
Posted by: Sushi | Apr 28 2022 16:02 utc | 66 If Poland (and Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania) does enter western Ukraine, it will be the result of a secret agreement with Russia. Poland gets Galicia, and Russia gets a secure border. Posted by: bob sykes | Apr 28 2022 16:02 utc | 67 40 years ago, during my mandatory military service, I was an electronic engineer with a towed howitzer battery. Then I got tansfered for the last 6 weeks of my service time to mountain infantry. Reason: all towed howitzer got eliminated and replaced with selfdriving howitzer. Reason: during war, a howitzer crew has a survival time of maximum 10 minutes if they do not change positions. With a truck, you have to manover the gun into position (rain—heavy bottom, mud) get the legs of howitzer in position (very heavy), unload ammunition, make it ready (program the head of the charge (impact or delay, etc) geometer has to define the position, fire the first shot, correction to all in the battery and then start shooting. Stop shooting, get the spare ammunition on the tow truck and then get the legs of the howitzer out of the mud. With selfdriving howitzers, there is only three steps: drive in position, geometer (today GPS?),start shooting and shortly afterwards move out to next firing position. Towed howitzers are death trap. Posted by: Harry T | Apr 28 2022 16:02 utc | 68 Another terrorist attack of the Ukrainian regime. Posted by: bob sykes | Apr 28 2022 16:02 utc | 67 Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 28 2022 16:05 utc | 70 Russia will use $390,000 worth of weapons to destroy Americastani weapons supposedly worth $39 billion dollars. Posted by: William Haught | Apr 28 2022 16:05 utc | 71 Biden now asking Congress for $33 billion more for Ukraine. Posted by: Woogs | Apr 28 2022 16:10 utc | 72 @ Harry T 68 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 16:11 utc | 73 The Russian stated objective is: security. Posted by: jared | Apr 28 2022 16:20 utc | 74 @ bevin | Apr 28 2022 13:20 utc | 17 Posted by: james | Apr 28 2022 16:21 utc | 75 @Don, thanks for the correction. so, the survival rate of this outdated gun is almost zero Posted by: Harry T | Apr 28 2022 16:21 utc | 76 One thought just struck me: Maybe we should regard the lays and innaccuracies served up about Russian army atrocities in The Ukraine is just a continued version of the campaign against China concerning “The Tiananmen Massacres” and the falsely reported story about “The Tank Man? Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐/טלפ וש | Apr 28 2022 16:24 utc | 77 @Abe
Everyone hates the Poles, I’ve never heard anyone say something comparatively complementary about them compared to other Europeans. Posted by: Altai | Apr 28 2022 16:25 utc | 78 @ jimmy… thanks for your posts and insights on the previous thread.. Posted by: james | Apr 28 2022 16:25 utc | 79 The philosophy of “When in doubt, escalate” seems to still be in effect. Posted by: ptb | Apr 28 2022 16:26 utc | 80 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 28 2022 15:56 utc | 61 Posted by: Paco | Apr 28 2022 16:27 utc | 81 @77 Posted by: Nico | Apr 28 2022 16:29 utc | 82 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 12:43 utc | 7 Posted by: anon2020 | Apr 28 2022 16:34 utc | 83 @Petri Krohn | Apr 28 2022 15:56 utc | 61
Thank you. View it with the Brave browser and there will be no ads. Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 28 2022 16:35 utc | 84 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 28 2022 15:56 utc | 61 Posted by: Paco | Apr 28 2022 16:36 utc | 85 This is unbelievable!! Posted by: Kim | Apr 28 2022 16:41 utc | 86 Unconfirmed rumor from a buddy of mine kinda tied into Eastern European diplomatic circles: Posted by: Exile | Apr 28 2022 16:47 utc | 87 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 13:17 utc | 15 Posted by: Boomhauer | Apr 28 2022 16:47 utc | 88 Everyone hates the Poles, I’ve never heard anyone say something comparatively complementary about them compared to other Europeans. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 28 2022 16:49 utc | 89 Posted by: ptb | Apr 28 2022 16:26 utc | 80 Posted by: Kim | Apr 28 2022 16:55 utc | 90 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 28 2022 15:56 utc | 61 Posted by: Paco | Apr 28 2022 16:58 utc | 91 Poles want to take Galicia? I gotta think the Russians’ answer to that is “пожалуйста!” Posted by: Patrick Armstrong | Apr 28 2022 17:06 utc | 92 ” a tenacious Vietcong of home-grown Neo-Nazi..” Lars Lansing@58 Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2022 17:06 utc | 93 Posted by: Exile | Apr 28 2022 16:47 utc | 87 Posted by: Gerrard White | Apr 28 2022 17:09 utc | 94 @ptb I expect a combined attack on Transnistria would lead to: Posted by: Cthulhu | Apr 28 2022 17:11 utc | 96 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 28 2022 12:43 utc | 7 Posted by: ERing46Z | Apr 28 2022 17:14 utc | 97
Good Lord Almighty, how I HATE Chopin! All that feminized hysteria, all those falling arpeggio fainting spells! Well, okay, the nocturnes were written “for the ladies,” so they were supposed to speak the language of the ladies, but still . . . ! He could have made an effort to be more of a guy than George Sand. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 28 2022 17:18 utc | 98 @ Cthulhu | Apr 28 2022 17:11 utc | 96 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 28 2022 17:29 utc | 99 @ Richard Steven Hack | 8 Posted by: Kerkaraje | Apr 28 2022 17:32 utc | 100 |
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