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April 24, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-54
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …
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no matter how cynical I get, it’s never cynical enough. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 2:12 utc | 101 Everyone keeps saying Strategic Culture is back… It’s not. I’ve been trying all afternoon and the site times out every time. I’ve been trying to get access to this article:
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 2:16 utc | 102 I should point out that was obtained from the Strategic Culture Telegram channel, which is here:
Well, no, it isn’t “functioning as usual”… Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 2:19 utc | 103 Two huge fires in Bryansk. Oil depot and possibly military tanks at the tank farm are on fire, the regional government said. Posted by: Homer | Apr 25 2022 2:39 utc | 104 To Joe @27 Posted by: Andrew S MacGregor | Apr 25 2022 2:51 utc | 105 @Likklemore. Schwab is a member of that illustrious Khazarian clan with the red shield from his mother’s side. Also, look up Tamga images for Khazaria and compare with modern Ukraine’s national symbol.. Posted by: Lozion | Apr 25 2022 3:23 utc | 106 Rare honest reporting from The Guardian on the Solomon Islands Posted by: K | Apr 25 2022 3:37 utc | 107 A video of Bush and Putin dancing together… Posted by: circumspect | Apr 25 2022 3:38 utc | 108 @ Homer | Apr 25 2022 2:39 utc | 101 Re: Posted by: MarkU | Apr 25 2022 3:38 utc | 109
That Zelensky’s selection as President was financed by Kolomoyskyy is common knowledge. He defeated Poroskenko AKA “Our Ukraine insider…” according to Wikileaks published diplomatic cables. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 25 2022 3:48 utc | 110 Posted by: Ian Kummer | Apr 24 2022 23:55 utc | 82 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 25 2022 3:51 utc | 111 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 2:16 utc | 99 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 25 2022 3:53 utc | 112 Testing. Testing. Last few comments have been disappeared. Not sure if they ever got posted. Was on a VPN, so that might be the issue. Testing. Testing. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 25 2022 3:54 utc | 113 OK, so it was the proxy service causing issue’s with b’s hosting platform. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 25 2022 3:57 utc | 114 This thug oligarch [Kolomoisky] is crucial to understanding the conflict in Ukraine. Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 25 2022 4:03 utc | 115 Wnanna register my disgust with posters in previous threads (looking at you, Roger and Nemesis_Calling) spouting Nazi apologetics and even floating the Suvorov thesis, that the Soviets were preparing to attack the Nazis, justifying Barbarossa — and these are people who claim to support Russia’s pre-emptive attack on Ukrainian Nazis nextdoor! Twisted, despicable stuff. You should be ashamed but have none. Posted by: line islands | Apr 25 2022 4:05 utc | 116 Posted by: Ian Kummer | Apr 24 2022 23:55 utc | 82 Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 25 2022 4:09 utc | 117 The spotters (or forward observers) for Ukie artillery have been detained. Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2022 4:25 utc | 118 Posted by: Homer | Apr 25 2022 2:39 utc | 101 Posted by: chu teh | Apr 25 2022 4:30 utc | 119 The March 2021 sanctions were to let Zelensky know of the change in his ownership from Kolomoyskyy to the US State Department and CIA. His immediate changes in policy and behavior reflect that change. Posted by: K | Apr 25 2022 4:37 utc | 120 The Babushka from Mariupol and effect on Russian sentiment: Posted by: PJB | Apr 25 2022 4:39 utc | 121 re DEW weapon active in Ca. caught on video, sept 2020. Posted by: chu teh | Apr 25 2022 4:42 utc | 122 From the last thread in response to the clip someone posted from “Cabaret”. Posted by: K | Apr 25 2022 4:48 utc | 123 Russia’s losing! Ukraine will kick them back to Moscow if only they get more “gear”. Afaik, “gear” in English slang means meth or coke. So we need to send more dope and Ukraine will prevail! Yeah, baby. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Apr 25 2022 4:57 utc | 124 OK This is [was!] the link. I saw it when Dutchsinse 1st posted it in Sept 2020. He was watching the real-time [GOES weather] broadcast and doing live, verbal analysis when suddenly he spotted the beams causing fire intensification effects. Now it shows 404 error,,,it has been taken down! How about that. Posted by: chu teh | Apr 25 2022 4:59 utc | 125 @ blues… thanks for explaining your quirky take and playing with the language.. that’s cool…. Posted by: james | Apr 25 2022 5:05 utc | 126 What is the history of when the propaganda is totally exposed? What happened in Germany, France, and other countries that were being defeated and the propaganda just became untenable, when the lies are massively exposed? Posted by: Jimmy Walter | Apr 25 2022 5:05 utc | 127 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 25 2022 3:57 utc | 109 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 5:22 utc | 128 From Intel Slava Z Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 5:32 utc | 129 I mostly only read Reuters posting titles and find the current one below interesting Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 25 2022 5:38 utc | 130
https://sputniknews.com/20220425/eu-planning-to-impose-6th-package-of-sanctions-against-russia-to-hit-oil-supplies-1095023045.html
Posted by: Laurence | Apr 25 2022 5:48 utc | 131 More on DirEnergyWeaoons…here again Dutchsinse catches the beam on 10-4-20 yu-tube abt 9:55 on this link Posted by: chu teh | Apr 25 2022 5:54 utc | 132 I don’t know if the news is true or not, but I’m afraid it is. How long can Russia endure a war against the supply chain of all NATO members? Either Russia destroys these shipments at the border, or it will face increasingly serious problems. Posted by: SCan | Apr 25 2022 6:01 utc | 133 Just re-watched 10-4-20 beams, but in this vid Dutch thinks THIS vid may be deliberate hoax and is suspect as a purposely discredible event.. But in Sept vid[now 404] it was not a considered hoax. Posted by: chu teh | Apr 25 2022 6:08 utc | 134 Latest from Jacob Dreizin…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 6:26 utc | 135 Twitter May ‘Take Closer Look’ at Musk’s Bid After Tesla Boss Secures Funding For Buyout https://sputniknews.com/20220425/twitter-may-take-closer-look-at-elon-musks-bid-after-tesla-ceo-secured-funding-for-buyout-1095024877.html
Posted by: Laurence | Apr 25 2022 6:31 utc | 136 bevin #72
Many thanks, great writing and an affirmation of the power of language and rhetoric. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 25 2022 6:52 utc | 137 @27 by kharkov ww1 or ww2 bunker system capture by russia of weapons and seizure in tact amo. footage from jimstoneindia.is released by official moscow military channel several days ago Posted by: CryptoAlchemist Burn | Apr 25 2022 7:05 utc | 138 Moon of Alabama Retweeted Posted by: Laurence | Apr 25 2022 7:17 utc | 139 chu teh #129
Thank you for the discussion. I am mighty skeptical but if such weapons exist, how much input energy is needed to say project energy 100kms and get an incendiary result? How much to get the same result at 200kms? Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 25 2022 7:56 utc | 140 Posted by: Laurence | Apr 25 2022 5:48 utc | 126 Posted by: TomD | Apr 25 2022 8:06 utc | 141 @line islands | Apr 25 2022 1:16 utc | 93 Posted by: Brannagyn | Apr 25 2022 8:52 utc | 142 @visitor | Apr 24 2022 22:26 utc | 60
Agreed, well said. Thank you for making me read that post again. The main message slipped the first time I skimmed it. Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 25 2022 9:00 utc | 143 Very interesting article here about the propaganda and planning of the war in Ukraine … Posted by: Stevelancs | Apr 25 2022 9:03 utc | 144 Craig Murray has a new post up. I don’t agree with his stance on Ukraine overall, but at least he points out the hypocrisy of the Guardian in pretending Putin is doing something unique that the US and UK haven’t done and are doing in spades. Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 25 2022 9:25 utc | 145 Reply to comment on non-Ukraine war thread Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 25 2022 10:14 utc | 146 Seems Russia is targeting the entire Ukraine railway network in the west now. The gloves are well and truly off. Next time Boris wants to visit his friend Elensky, he will have to travel by bicycle which would actually do him a power of good Posted by: DaVinci | Apr 25 2022 10:42 utc | 147 #—Once more antisemitic and anticommunist crap and forgeries. There is no indication that Schiff ever directly funded Trotsky, though the latter may have got some support as Jewish emigree in NYC by funds sponsored by rich Jews. Schiff sponsored Kerensky, not the bolsheviks, and opposed the October Revolution from its beginnings. Max Warburg also denied any sponsoring of bolsheviks, and it is unlikely given his funding to anticommunist groups. Posted by: Anne B | Apr 25 2022 10:44 utc | 148 “The visit to Ukraine by Anthony Blinken and Lloyd Austin was all that you might expect. Posted by: Milos | Apr 25 2022 10:50 utc | 149 #—-Either we talk about the “most stupid people on the planets face” sitting in DC, or we talk about an evil plan of “zionists” in “Davos” or in the catacombs of the “deep state”. There is a contradiction between both. Posted by: Anne B | Apr 25 2022 11:16 utc | 150 Maybe Nato won’t get its consolation prize of Sweden and Finland after all. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 11:27 utc | 151 Finland will join NATO immediately. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 11:32 utc | 152 #—-The war was for sure started for this outcome, for to be able to infiltrate nazi thugs into our societies in adequate numbers, with the peoples´s consent ( as they conceeded to their own suicide past year “for the common good”..) since a NATO victory was unthinkable form the start. Posted by: Anne B | Apr 25 2022 11:36 utc | 153 Looks like the Russians will head West to Transnistria. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 11:46 utc | 154 #—-Zubrin’s a smart guy. .Zubrin’s a smart guy?? Posted by: Anne B | Apr 25 2022 11:54 utc | 155 Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 11:27 utc | 146
Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 11:32 utc | 147 Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 25 2022 11:54 utc | 156 US to give Ukraine “Coke Head” M142 HIMARS systems with a range of up to 500 kilometers. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 11:56 utc | 157 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 24 2022 19:41 utc | 29
Had to be another small hat clan member. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 25 2022 12:01 utc | 158 Hey, whaddaya know, the great Blinking-one his self showed his stupid face for the world to ignore once again. I didn’t know Ze suffered from little man syndrome. What an absolute mess and the west clearly does not have the mental capacity to comprehend the dilemma they have got themselves into with this Special Operation. That Austin dude looks like he might actually have been a tough teddy bear at one time. I’m impressed. Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Apr 25 2022 12:24 utc | 159 The T-72M1 tanks handed over by Slovakia a few days ago have already been spotted in the Donbass. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 12:24 utc | 160 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 24 2022 23:39 utc | 78
Another one. It’s small hats all the way down, it seems. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 25 2022 12:25 utc | 161 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2022 4:25 utc | 113 Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 25 2022 12:30 utc | 162 A war correspondent for the Chinese TV channel CGTN, Lu Yuguang, took a photo with two Chechen commanders in Mariupol. The preliminary cause of the explosions at the oil base in the Bryansk region were drones. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 12:36 utc | 164 Kim @147, sln2002 @151 Posted by: Chas | Apr 25 2022 12:37 utc | 165 Weapons deliveries from Germany to Ukraine. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 12:45 utc | 166 An unconfirmed sonar image of the cruiser Moskva at the bottom of the Black Sea. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 12:50 utc | 167 In Bryansk, in addition to the burnt oil depot, the railway was damaged in the direction of the military unit, along which military equipment and ammunition were transported to Ukraine, media reported. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 12:57 utc | 169 Posted by: Chas | Apr 25 2022 12:37 utc | 160 Posted by: Jonathan W | Apr 25 2022 12:57 utc | 170 Posted by: njet | Apr 24 2022 21:27 utc | 47 Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 13:24 utc | 171 Posted by: Chas | Apr 25 2022 12:37 utc | 160
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because SDP lawmaker Erkki Tuomioja told US American NPR [National Public Radio] that “Finnish media in war psychosis” Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 25 2022 13:24 utc | 172 @160, Russia and Finland already have a treaty, requires non alignment from Finland….. joining nato breaks the treaty and invites an attack Posted by: WRFB | Apr 25 2022 13:29 utc | 173 librul | Apr 24 2022 18:32 utc | 16
Did six billion dollars of an IMF loan to Ukraine not disappear from Kolomoisky’s Privat Bank? Posted by: cirsium | Apr 25 2022 13:29 utc | 174
Thank you. Although I knew Stefan Zweig, that book was unknown to me. Just ordered it! Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Apr 25 2022 13:41 utc | 175 Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 13:24 utc | 165 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 25 2022 13:48 utc | 176 Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 24 2022 22:31 utc | 62 Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 13:48 utc | 177 Blinken and Austin have talked to the press about their recent Zelinsky massage in Kyiv. Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2022 13:56 utc | 178 Blinken talked about “going forward” with there possibly being a US ambassador to Ukraine.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2022 14:03 utc | 179 fog of war, rumors, and just plain bullshit: one story, two versions, same day
Finnish navy to train with Nato vessels in Archipelago Sea
Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 25 2022 14:06 utc | 180 Posted by: Thomas | Apr 25 2022 1:46 utc | 95 Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 14:08 utc | 181 Aleph_Null @18 and Mark@25 Posted by: spudski | Apr 25 2022 14:08 utc | 182 Russia is developing non-traditional weapons. Posted by: Kim | Apr 25 2022 14:10 utc | 183 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 25 2022 2:16 utc | 99 Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 14:13 utc | 184 #—-Either we talk about the “most stupid people on the planets face” sitting in DC, or we talk about an evil plan of “zionists” in “Davos” or in the catacombs of the “deep state”. There is a contradiction between both. Posted by: K | Apr 25 2022 14:15 utc | 185 Here’s a photo of the recent meeting in Kyiv. One might say that the room decor was flagging. Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2022 14:16 utc | 186 @179 Posted by: Macpott | Apr 25 2022 14:28 utc | 187 I’ll believe any of these events have occurred in Kiev when I see photos of the planes touching down, diplomats walking down stairs, being greeted, motorcade into city. Instead we see photos of meeting room that could be anywhere and not much else. Posted by: Oldhippie | Apr 25 2022 14:33 utc | 188 Ukrainian Gestapo (SBU) plot foiled. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 25 2022 14:33 utc | 189 John Helmer translates a Russian story about Mariupol. It is a few days old but it may be of interest to others besides me. Posted by: bevin | Apr 25 2022 14:34 utc | 190 How long do they imagine they can sustain the charade? Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 25 2022 14:39 utc | 191 We had the UK PM visit India in which among his agenda was to try and prise Modi away from Russia, the EU has quickly followed suit on that agenda, offering gold trinkets. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 25 2022 14:39 utc | 192 It seems that today one can post on MOA without having registered a username/password. Posted by: arm45 | Apr 25 2022 14:40 utc | 193 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 25 2022 13:48 utc | 170 Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 14:43 utc | 194 A series of massive fires resulting from presumed attacks on Bryansk, which is over 100kms inside Russia, seems like quite the escalation. Posted by: Et Tu | Apr 25 2022 14:53 utc | 195 @189 Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Apr 25 2022 15:00 utc | 196 If this has been posted already … my apologies. Posted by: ld | Apr 25 2022 15:05 utc | 197 @ Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 25 2022 13:24 utc | 166 Posted by: Et Tu | Apr 25 2022 15:10 utc | 198 Scorpion | Apr 25 2022 14:43 utc | 188 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 25 2022 15:10 utc | 199 @ Et Tu 189 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 25 2022 15:11 utc | 200 |
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