Masks Off, Our Propagandists Admit the Truth
Happy Easter! There’s a huge battle taking off in Donbass, and NATO propaganda has begrudgingly acknowledged it. Why the sudden fit of honesty? We should be worried.
https://readingjunkie.com/2022/04/17/masks-off-our-propagandists-admit-the-truth/

Posted by: Ian Kummer | Apr 17 2022 13:04 utc | 3

The refusal by the Ukrainian Government to let its own soldiers surrender and live from Azovstal, showed its true evil nature. It is against any humane practice of a normal government, a timely yard stick to measure the morality of Western Mass News Media. (With their deafening silence, they can’t run and hide this time)

Posted by: KitaySupporter | Apr 17 2022 13:09 utc | 5

Well I just had a run in in the park. There were “peace” activists collecting for refugees with a big blue and yellow banner saying “NATO Help us”. As i walked past I overheard their grab line: “stop the genocide in Ukraine”. Already worked up by their sign asking for WW3, I couldn’t help but challenge that. To which every person nearby (activists and the public) turned their heads and said “it is genocide” some with emphatic nodding, which truly brought their mindlessness home. One person tried to engage, he soon came up with the “denying Ukrainians agency” line. And later accused me of “Orientalism”, when I said something about libya that was very much the opposite. It didnt take long until he bounded off to the safety of the group and started pointing at me and screaming “genocide denier” for saying of all things that there was never any evidence for the viagra rape story.. he didn’t know what r2p was; he didn’t know who the osce are; Donbas is part of Ukraine so none of Russia’s business; in Ukraine for him everything started 24/2/2022. I made a closing speech: it is good they are raising money for refugees, but horrifying to see good people calling for ww3; then a few other things I can’t quite remember. Exhausted, what a shit time to actually give fuck.

Posted by: Bea | Apr 17 2022 13:40 utc | 7

“Given the potential desperation of President Putin and the Russian leadership, given the setbacks that they’ve faced so far, militarily, none of us can take lightly the threat posed by a potential resort to tactical nuclear weapons or low-yield nuclear weapons,” CIA Director Willuam Burns
That the UAF face ultimate military defeat by Russia using conventional arms is well understood by people like William Burns. Yet here he is pushing this propaganda in the NYT. What this says, IMO, is the stage being set for a last ditch false flag operation to finally convince anyone still sitting on the fence that Putin is truly the devil incarnate.
The evil empire will stop at nothing to destroy Putin and Russia.

Posted by: Krypton | Apr 17 2022 13:57 utc | 9

Posted by: Bea | Apr 17 2022 13:40 utc | 7
Apparently this guy is a hypocrite since he has no concern about the Ukrainians shelling Donbass. To him “some people are more equal than others.”

Posted by: Quiet Rebel | Apr 17 2022 14:01 utc | 11

One serious question: is depleted uranium used by anyone like in Yugoslavia and Irak?

Posted by: Olivier | Apr 17 2022 14:10 utc | 13

DU is used to penetrate tank armour because of its density

Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 17 2022 14:16 utc | 15

@Olivier, they are holding Russian troops from moving north. Buying time.

Posted by: Mark | Apr 17 2022 14:19 utc | 17

Re:Mark,
Buying time for what? There is no possible way Ukraine can win this conflict, unless NATO intervenes directly but even then NATO is in no condition to fight a war right (ignore the BS, Nato has no heavy armoured divisions to fight Russia with, only light infantry – ie they will be quickly ground down) the Ukraine regime is literally throwinv away the lives of their troops for nothing

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 17 2022 14:32 utc | 19

I believe that Kyiv wants to force Russia to use chemical weapons to evict the underground combatants, something they could then crow about.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2022 14:40 utc | 21

@Kadath thankyou for your crystal ball reading. Since the outcome of the war is preordaned i will leave for other things

Posted by: Mark | Apr 17 2022 14:44 utc | 23

NEW:
Video surfaces of American sniper suffers fatal wound from Russia in Mariupol Ukraine.
https://abrahamstein.substack.com/p/american-sniper-loses-life-in-mariupol

Posted by: Dean Oneil | Apr 17 2022 14:49 utc | 25

@ Bea 7
Bea, I respect your attempts to provide some context to these misled demonstrators. I share your despair at the success of this truly global psyop. Other MOA commenters have expressed (quite eloquently), the feeling of being a stranger in a strange land during this stunning display of information full spectrum dominance. Don’t let it get you too down. The empire has wildly overplayed their hand this time. Let’s hope that the world (and the population of the EU) get this message before things get “nukular”. Thank you for again for trying with the low-information voters.

Posted by: Boomhauer | Apr 17 2022 14:52 utc | 27

Posted by: Bea | Apr 17 2022 13:40 utc | 7
The level of lying today is relentless. I still see people wearing masks which tells me only one thing, lying works.
So lets see how this worked in the Past because we might think that people were more resistant to it then. When Germany entered Poland in 1939 they captured documents of the Polish Foreign Ministry in Warsaw. From these documents they put together what they called ,
“Polnische dokumente zur vorgeschichte des krieges
Auswärtiges Amt. Germany, Jan 1940”
They were to show that it was not Germany’s fault for the start of the war. Look for the section “Sixth Document” to see what the Polish ambassador observed in the US leading up to WW II.
“Report of the Polish Ambassador in Washington Count Jerzy Potocki to Polish Foreign Minister in Warsaw dated Washington January 12 1939 concerning the domestic situation in United States”
https://books.google.lu/books?id=esbUAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA18&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false
Change the names and we will have Potocki reporting on what is happening in the US in 2022. This is history, pure and simple.
The funniest part is this,
“It is interesting to note that in this extremely well planned campaign which is conducted above all against National Socialism Soviet Russia is almost completely eliminated. Soviet Russia if mentioned at all is mentioned in a friendly manner and things are presented in such a way that it would seem that the Soviet Union were cooperating with the bloc of democratic states. Thanks to the clever propaganda the sympathies of the American public are completely on the side of Red Spain.
This propaganda, this war psychosis is being artificially created. The American people are told that peace in Europe is hanging only by a thread and that war is inevitable. At the same time the American people are unequivocally told that in case of a world war, America also must take an active part in order to defend the slogans of liberty and democracy in the world. President Roosevelt was the first one to express hatred against Fascism. In doing so he was serving a double purpose first he wanted to divert the attention of the American people from difficult and intricate domestic problems especially from the problem of the struggle between capital and labor. Second by creating a war psychosis and by spreading rumors concerning dangers threatening Europe, he wanted to induce the American people to accept an enormous armament program which far exceeds United States defense requirements.”
Same ol’ script to push the Sheep over the cliff used then is used Today.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 17 2022 14:56 utc | 29

JoD@20..The Ukrainian army would have to fight it’s way through neo nazis all the way to the Polish border, then they’d have to send search teams in to Poland to find him. btw, ‘if you were a UAF commander’, all reg force Ukraine military command structure has been purged by NATO over the past eight years. Replaced with neo nazi fascism. No reg force commander, with his men out of food, ammo, and many in triage would ever command his men to fight to the death(unless it’s a Japanese enemy, then you have no choice)…..fix bayonets! Wait, my mistake, there are literally dozens of English military commanders that excel at sending enlisted men to their death….that’s how they get promoted.
Cheers

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 17 2022 15:00 utc | 31

Don Bacon @21
Bingo!
After these Neo-Nazi are smashed in Azovstal, Kiev and MSM will cry out this is a “genocide”, what a “war criminal” Putin is, how “barbaric” Russian army is…… When the manufacured consent reachs certain emotional level, US/NATO will announce they have to use nuclear weapon to eliminate Russia/n and Putin.
War is the always their favorite tools.

Posted by: lulu | Apr 17 2022 15:13 utc | 33

Left over from April 16 Open Thread on Ukraine
@ hoggy 153, Tom_Q_Collins 154, james 157
hoggy- thanks for the link of the NASA et al. researchers Nature_Food (why journals think its cool to have their name in lower case nowadays is beyond me)article. I’ll have my librarian get a copy for me this coming week. I didn’t recognize any of the author names, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything, just stating a fact. Looking at the 2070 map link you provided, it appears that the U.S. interests would have an easier time taking over Argentina and control of the Pampas than taking over the black soils of Ukraine and south Russia. It looks like the Pampas gets even cooler so probably back to more small grains than soybeans and corn.
Just a statement on higher end peer reviewed journals. A lot of people probably know this already but the reason why they stay “high impact” is that they only send a small fraction– I heard Science its 8%–of the submitted manuscripts out for review. Thus a cycle of “wow, to get into [fill in the blank high end journal] is a really big deal so I need to try” and thus a self-feeding system is maintained. Another reason for these journals to be considered so impactful is that deal with “exciting” topics so more plain vanilla but still good articles tend not to be picked for review. A quick personal example, I was the lead author on a semi-national land use/land cover paper recently and it took submissions to 5 journals to get published. I had some younger co-authors who wanted to “swing for the fences” so we tried PNAS (U.S. National Academy of Sciences) and 2 Nature journal venues and all 3 declined to send the manuscript out for review. It got reviewed with an Elsevier journal but that ended by imploding because I guess I pissed off the editor for challenging a couple of the reviewer comments (their issue was not really on the “correctness” of the work, more on the concept that was it “novel” enough). We finally got the article published in a Swiss-Chinese journal that sends everything out for review. Nothing substantially changed in the manuscript from submission #1 through #5 except we strengthened why we thought it was “novel” enough to get published. Peer review is a good system but like anything else its a human construct with all the potential weaknesses that come with people.
One thing to consider in all of these is that the basic growing large extensive area crops is an old model, even large-scale mechanical production is at least 150 years old or more so a question that I seldom see asked, “is this is the way it has to be?” People can be mostly self-sufficient for food on small parcels of land if enough intensification and management is practiced. But “we” don’t want most of the people of the world to spend a lot of time producing or networking for their own food so “we” practice a model of large-area extensive agricultural in most regions of the globe, at least the “developed” and “mostly developed” countries. This model is efficient in producing lots of fairly cheap end-use food products but various other intensive land uses could probably produce sufficient nutrition for global population, even under changed climatic conditions. Most people in countries with money simply don’t want to think too hard in their ability to buy food so we use the present production model. Agriculture is just as much of a socioeconomic construct as it is a biophysical one. We could grow greenhouse tomatoes in Thule, Greenland but we choose not to because nobody is willing to pay that cost per pound for that product.
Thus, I think by using our brain power more in being adaptive to changing climate conditions and ask ourselves if we really need 90+ million acres of maize grown in the USA or not—wheat by the way is now number #3 in total area cropped in the USA, now on about the same level as all hay crop acreage, corn and soybeans go back and forth being #1 in acreage planted. Of course, who is the current power establishment championing through the likes of RAND studies; the old school model fucks such as Cargill, Dreyfus, ADM, and such or the true needs of common people?? But we know that answer already. Maybe things will change…

Posted by: DakotaRog | Apr 17 2022 15:22 utc | 35

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 17 2022 15:13 utc | 35
The ship sinking doesn’t appear to have the four angled missile launchers along the side.

Posted by: laguerre | Apr 17 2022 15:33 utc | 37

Gonzalo Lira hasn’t posted on various social media platforms for 2 days which is unusual. He is supposed to be on MOAT with George Galloway later this afternoon. Let’s hope he appears again. Otherwise, it would be a bad sign since internet still seems to be operating in Kharkov.

Posted by: v | Apr 17 2022 15:45 utc | 39

—Exhausted, what a shit time to actually give fuck.
Posted by: Bea | Apr 17 2022 13:40 utc |
For me it has been invigorating. I haven’t been able to speak much about this until now. Now they have given me ample opportunity, to tell them a thing or two. But for me this war is first and foremost, spiritual.

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 17 2022 15:56 utc | 41

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 17 2022 14:56 utc | 29
trying to make a point while beginning/ending with remarks indicating your lack of intellect is self-defeating. majority of posters here apparently serious people with serious concerns. Sticking to facts/factual comments will encourage others to read your post.

Posted by: Oso | Apr 17 2022 15:58 utc | 43

@ bea
thanks for sharing your personal story… it strikes a note – a sad one, but a part of life in the world today….
@ DakotaRog | Apr 17 2022 15:22 utc | 36
i will stick with reading wendell berry who offers an alternative view to those being pushed by the likes of the multinational food corporations… we need to go small, as opposed to large… we need to work in the communities – the 100 mile radius concept and etc. etc… for me to get caught up in the nightmares projected by these multinational corps ain’t worth it…. it is kind of like arguing with the folks that @bea was addressing earlier in the thread… ultimately it doesn’t get much of anywhere as i see it… thanks for your post.. i might have skimmed off what i wanted to address and apologize skipping over what you might have wanted me to respond to!!

Posted by: james | Apr 17 2022 16:08 utc | 45

the pope canonized a racist slavemaster junipero serra, what can be more racist that that? the hell with pope francis.

Posted by: Oso | Apr 17 2022 16:09 utc | 47

All responders to my theory of what all this may be about, I want to express thanks.
We have to try and find a proper rationale for this debacle before we can hope to determine just how far the US and Russia will actually go and how likely World immolation really is. Mearsheimer says its “existential” for the Russians. With this, I agree. I believe there is a very high probability they will use nuclear if they seriously look like losing- they simply can’t afford to. But Mearsheimer also says the US can’t lose – WHY? This is not existential to them. Sure, their reputation would take a hit, but is it really likely they would commit suicide just for reputation. Do the Democrats want to hang on to the reins so desperately they will kill their children for it. I fully appreciate the ghost of Curtis E. Lemay stalks the Beltway, but in that Cabinet room they still have children and grandchildren. The US can afford to lose. They may not like it, but at least they know they can “live” with it. Unless there is a tribal madness so deep that self-destruction is better than loss of face, they must walk away if Russia prevails. I come back to my longer-term theory. Unless a strategic plan exists where failure to succeed becomes existential to the US, and Ukraine lies at the heart of that plan, the US will back down.
As I’ve stated, I believe the future capacity to grow food is central. That is existential. If the defeat of Russia is necessary to achieving access to that in the coming future, and defeating them in Ukraine is necessary to that, then all bets are off. But we still come back to this; – if it takes nuclear war for the US to win in Ukraine, what does it achieve if all the mouths to be fed in the US (and Europe, and China, and the Middle and Far East) are burned shut.
I believe the same basic things as Lawrence Wilkerson and Roger Hallam.
The question is; do the Washington war planners. Whatever they believe, I suspect they are far less out of touch than the awful, self-obsessed little snots in the Hallam video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMGBSN6RmRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxjAQGWaMxM

Posted by: hoggy | Apr 17 2022 16:22 utc | 49

Happy Easter fellow Barflies.
There is a point on which, the MoD and I differ. Up to now, the heaviest damage has been concentrated on the separatist Republics. If, eventually, Ukraine is divided into two or more entities, the ones nearer Russia are going to be in the sphere of influence of the RF. Therefore their destruction serves the purposes of the Galicians and their mentors for they will be an economic burden on the RF for the next 20 years.
However, if the bombing, precision or carpet was directed towards the northwestern sector of Ukraine, the burden would be on Europe and the US, if they survive the eventual WW3.
It is in the interest of Russia to inflict damage on the real Ukrainian side. It will bring them to the negotiation table a lot sooner. Right now Zelensky and Company are relishing the poisonous gift they are reserving for the RF and the pro Russian populations of the Southeastern half of Crimea.

Posted by: CarlD | Apr 17 2022 16:39 utc | 51

Re Arch Bungle #28:
“I’ve never been able to understand why the Empire has been making so much noise about chemical weapons use by Russia.”
Simply to deflect since they run biolabs all over the world and got caught recently with dozens in Ukraine some of which were researching how to target those with Slavic genes. The crooks are always accusing their victims of what they themselves are guilty of.

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 17 2022 16:47 utc | 53

Every now an then US media almost catches up with reality: https://www.rt.com/news/554022-us-drill-russia-ukraine
Article was from the AP…

Posted by: Paul Spencer | Apr 17 2022 16:54 utc | 55

Posted by: hoggy | Apr 17 2022 16:22 utc | 50
ALL WARS ARE ABOUT RESOURCES. Know THIS as the starting point.
The US has set up a control racket, one that manages and controls resources. There are two key reasons why the US is putting massive energy into pushing back Russia, one is primary and the other is secondary (though still very important(.
1) It’s about protecting the financial system (USD/IMF/SWIFT), a system that was tailored for domination by the US/UK bankers;
2) It’s about controlling the US population writ large.
If you don’t have BOTH these under control then you have nothing under control.
International laws were starting to be invoked to disclose the violations by the US/West in which case it, the US/West, magically changed over to the nowhere-encoded “rules based order.” It’s now: “might makes right.”
Of course, physical resources are extremely important, which is being made more clear by Russia’s ability to buck the West’s run at them. The fake/virtual “money” system that’s currently dominant in the world (via USD) is, in the face of per-capita physical resource decline, starting to unravel. The unraveling threatens to expose the West’s oligarchs to the masses. A military operation (war) is always a way to force populations into submission; in this case submission to continue to be subordinate to the ruling oligarchs.
Rather than adjust the failing system the West/US is doubling down. Making populations pliable requires bread to go with the circuses. The bread is starting to run out and at some point no amount of clowning (think of the current Western leaders and you can see a nice match-up) is going to convince people that they aren’t hungry.
In the end there will still be the matter of “growth” on a finite planet. I doubt that those in power do not grasp this: the general populations, however, have been totally sold on this as being essential (though it’s really essential to keep the ruling powers in power).
So, the way forward will be that of hiding bodies and burning ledgers. Same as it’s always been…

Posted by: Seer | Apr 17 2022 16:59 utc | 57

hoggy
Looks like you just fell out of bed and realized – oh fuck, there’s a war on.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 17 2022 17:11 utc | 59

Zelinski is advised by the western advisors and they want the foreigners trapped in Azrovstal to die as martyrs. That would inflame the social media and play in the hands of the USA and Europe’s propaganda om Russian’s “cruelty”
I guess some small dose of Novitchok or anesthesic gaz thrown in azrovstal will neutralize them. They can then be exposed to the media after they wake up
They should be left alive and allowed to tell how Kiev treated them

Posted by: virgile | Apr 17 2022 17:12 utc | 61

The comedian (Zelensky) claims that Ukraine will fight Russia for a decade if need be, decoded it reads the USA will supply weapons to Ukraine until Ukraine runs out of fighters.
“Ukraine is not prepared to give up territory and is ready, if necessary, to fight Russia “for 10 years,” President Volodymyr Zelensky has said.
In an interview with CNN, Zelensky said that for Ukraine “the battle for Donbass is very important” for a number of reasons, adding that it could affect “the course of the whole war.” ”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2022 17:27 utc | 63

The Nazi’s are using banned munitions.
“Internationally banned MON-50 and MON-90 mines used by the Ukrainian forces were discovered in Mariupol. The mines were found inside the Ilyich steel mill.”
From what I can gather from the Saker on Mariupol only the Azovstal complex has still to be cleared out.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2022 17:30 utc | 65

It would appear that the likes of Shaun Pinner and CossackGundi two UK mercenaries caught in Mariupol will now go on trial for the whole world to see.
From the Saker.
“Among those captured in Ukraine there are military personnel from the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance (NATO). This was announced on Friday, April 15, by Andrei Klimov, deputy head of the commission of the United Russia party for international cooperation…
“We already have prisoners among the military personnel of NATO countries, we will show all this when we conduct trials, and the whole world will see what really happened,” he said during a briefing with the media. The senator also said that there are mercenaries in Ukraine from Asia, Africa, Great Britain, the USA and other states. He recalled that mercenaries are not military personnel and they are not subject to international law.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2022 17:37 utc | 67

@41 gottlieb
re: Zelensky says “fight for 10 years”
I thought Blinken the other day said end of the year, but what kind-of irrelevent.
Some nasty speculative arithmetic… wild ass guess = 250k Ukrainians+mercs can be found to fight with a useful level of enthusiasm. Lets say more equipment is found (eg there’s plenty of old soviet gear outside EU, and the “taxpayer”, ie corrupt legislator signing other people’s checks, will surely provide more.
Current rate of UA losses, per RF estimates, is about 5k per week are killed/wounded/captured. So that’s 50 weeks right there. That’s one way to look at it.
It is an alarmingly bloody scenario. Another totally speculative scenario, is stretch it out over a longer time. Say DNR and perhaps Kharkov are eventually cleared, and RF wishes to stop and concentrate on rebuilding those already extensive destroyed areas.
Yet if the current Ukrainian methods would remain unchanged, it seems to imply they would just continue random terror strikes using whatever means are available, hoping to continue being rewarded by their sponsors for escalation as they have been. It doesn’t pay here to bet against either human creativity, nor to bet against the willingness of sponsors to make regrettable decisions like eventually giving out more/better weapons.
So yeah, it could be an indefinite future. In 10 years there will be bigger problems for the US power position in the world, EU will have to eat the economic and refugee-flow effects. But it doesn’t mean peace magically comes anywhere. As long as someone pays, it goes on.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 17 2022 17:38 utc | 69

@ juliania | Apr 17 2022 16:38 utc | 51
kudos on getting the snow peas happening! we have peas coming up, but no produce yet… we really do have to be thinking in terms of the local community which begins with our family and our immediate place of living… when is the orthodox easter? i take it it is later? thanks…
@ DakotaRog | Apr 17 2022 16:58 utc | 57
in less then 75 years, here on vancouver island we’ve gone from being food independent, to being food dependent… a lot of changes have happened, but i think it would be easy to switch back, if the focus wasn’t on jobs, economy and having more and more people everywhere contributing to the building boom… i take it this is an outgrowth of stock market speculation – reits and etc – given the success of real estate bubbles… it does impact the available land.. some of the most productive land is in the vancouver – fraser river estuary and really the whole fraser river valley from hope down to vancouver… they continue to build on this valuable agricultural land.. the idea was to keep the land within the alt – agricultural land trust – but chamber of commerce, real estate developers and etc. etc. types, have a different concept of the future… somehow we need to replace these people with people who value what we have at present, as opposed to this endless jobs, economy b.s. end of rant, lol…. thanks for your commentary.. are you in the dakotas?

Posted by: james | Apr 17 2022 17:42 utc | 71

While the multipolar world is in its birth pangs, UK is busily starting or adding fuel to fires all over the world, from @rybar, https://t.me/rybar/31359:

Prolong the conflict in Ukraine to set other places on fire
In recent years, there has been an opinion that Uncle Sam and the United States are behind every conflict. From the first days of the conflict, it was Washington that was blamed for all the troubles of Russia. At best, they talked about NATO and the collective West. At worst, it’s about the senile Biden, who for some reason is still considered an independent figure.
However, if we look at who specifically defends Ukraine the most, who consistently pumps the Ukraine army with weapons and puts pressure on other countries whose satellites promote the idea of actively protecting Kiev, then we will find that it is the United Kingdom.
On February 21, we published a text about the public “return” of Great Britain to big politics and explained in detail why what is happening is happening. The United States, at the same time, turns into a laughing stock country, and its politicians turn into senile people for public flogging.
On April 13, a good analytical text in two parts was published on the channel of the clever Frida Kahlo about how the world political center moved from Washington to Foggy Albion. The United States is losing its leading position and is on the verge of collapse. One can say that this is “hooray-patriotism” and hooting: look, Uncle Sam broke down, ha-ha-ha. Only this does not change the essence: the sum does not change from changing the places of the terms. The decision-making center has moved, but the pressure has not gone away and has not become weaker.
It is the British who are taking the course today to prolong the conflict in Ukraine. Because it is necessary to set fire to hot spots in other parts of the world so that chaos begins in the eastern hemisphere around one large, but such an inconvenient country called Russia.
What conflicts are we talking about?
The Balkan gossip girl writes that Kosovo is about to burst into flames: the region is being actively pumped with weapons by the British, the Turks are engaged in training local structures. And these are far from the first signs of impending tension: we observed a demonstrative rattling of weapons about a month ago.
At the same time, there is an escalation in Nagorno-Karabakh, where for a long time the Azerbaijanis have been gathering troops and conducting demonstrative sabotage operations, undermining the authority of Russian peacekeepers. And in March, the British Defense Minister flew there on his first official visit.
In Pakistan, Imran Khan was removed from power. Rallies are taking place, escalating into mass riots. If the situation does not stabilize, we are waiting for an escalation on the border of Iran, China and India — countries pursuing a policy friendly to Russia. At the same time, clashes on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan intensified — and we have been talking about the possible incitement of Afghanistan in the spring due to the inability of the Taliban regime to provide power for a long time. And if Afghanistan is set on fire, it will hook the whole of Central Asia.
The Turks promise to squeeze the Americans out of Iraq and Syria, thereby shifting the balance of power. The next operation in Iraqi Kurdistan, according to our data, should start in the next couple of weeks. And under whom are the Turks? That’s right, under the UK.
All this takes place in the zone of traditional influence of the UK. They are trying to set fire to Eastern Europe, the Arabian Peninsula, Transcaucasia and Central Asia.
Yes, there is also the US—China—Taiwan confrontation. But considering that the British have not changed their attitude towards the Chinese since the opium wars and continue to consider them as “yellow monkeys”, the Foggy Albion wants to take part of that conflict too.
And now look: at the same time, attempts are continuing in every possible way to continue the negotiation process which should prolong the current situation in Ukraine. What is the threat of this delay?
That’s right, by inciting new hot spots on the distant approaches. And this does not bring anything good for Russia. And we need to be ready for this.
Does this mean that there is no need for negotiations?
Yes, let them talk. Only do not stop and do not change goals. As an informational noise, negotiations can and should be conducted. But we must not forget to blame the Ukrainians for the failure of any attempts to negotiate. Which, in fact, is not difficult: just listen to Zelensky’s speeches.
#UK #USA #Turkey #Ukraine
@rybar

Posted by: Boo | Apr 17 2022 17:47 utc | 73

Paul Greenwood | Apr 17 2022 14:16 utc | 15
“DU is used to penetrate tank armour because of its density”
From Wiki:

Depleted uranium is favored for the penetrator because it is self-sharpening[38] and flammable.[34] On impact with a hard target, such as an armored vehicle, the nose of the rod fractures in such a way that it remains sharp.[38] The impact and subsequent release of heat energy causes it to ignite.[34] When a DU penetrator reaches the interior of an armored vehicle, it catches fire, often igniting ammunition and fuel, killing the crew and possibly causing the vehicle to explode.[citation needed] DU is used by the U.S. Army in 120 mm or 105 mm cannons employed on the M1 Abrams tank.

In the Iraq war there were anti tank rounds that went through more than one tank. The soldiers inside were Cooked to the a crispy state and were called crispy critters. Member that??
Powerful reporting here
The Dodgy Bodger

Posted by: dodgy Bodger | Apr 17 2022 17:53 utc | 75

Here is another fundamental reason why America is so enraged about Russia and its intervention into Ukraine:
Exclusive: Russia’s Sergey Glazyev introduces the new global financial system
https://thecradle.co/Article/interviews/9135
This Ukraine war of course is not really about Ukraine.
It’s about opposing American unipolar dominance of the planet, which has existed since the end of the first Cold War. All these other “reasons” are likely propaganda that America and its agents of influence push to obscure this geopolitical reality.
This war means confronting the America-dominated “security architecture” that the United States controls to enforce its geopolitical yoke over the entire planet.
And just as important, it means confronting the American-dominated financial system, which allows the United States to live beyond its means and devour goods and services from the rest of the world in exchange for worthless paper.
In short, America is a parasite on the global economy.
Putin Calls U.S. ‘Parasite’ on Global Economy
https://www.wsj.com/video/putin-calls-us-parasite-on-global-economy/177B5B6B-BB16-4E44-B3CF-80E344B78624.html
This American parasite has an in-bred sense of its own imperial entitlement–economic, military, and political.
The American war machine’s raison d’etre is to defend this system of American parasitism the entire world over. In American Doublespeak, this is called “defending freedom, democracy, and a Rules-Based International Order.”
Unfortunately, the American parasite will not peacefully nor sincerely give up this system without war.
Ukraine is merely one front in this World War.
And there likely will be other fronts in this war from Asia to the Middle East to Europe to inside belly of the American beast itself.
The American parasite will have to be terminated.
America Delenda Est.

Posted by: ak74 | Apr 17 2022 17:58 utc | 77

The US and the NATO nations will utterly bankrupt themselves if they keep funneling weapons into Ukraine, the Britain, France, Germany and the Baltic states are already complaining that we have depleted their own arms reserves. Normal countries could simply rebuild and restock their supplies, but the NATO countries have outsourced all of their domestic production to China, they have minimal national resources to build anything (relying on Africa and Russia for their raw resources) AND they are hugely indebted, there is simply no money to replace these arms and when they try to do that, their economies will implode.

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 17 2022 18:03 utc | 79

@dodgy Bodger | Apr 17 2022 17:53 utc | 76
DU is also cheap. Instead of storing it as waste now they get to destroy nations with it. America the Empire that keeps on killing after they’ve left. Whether it’s DU, Agent Orange, Nuclear Bomb, Cluster Bombs, the suffering continues.
Even now, in Germany, they are still dealing with hundreds of tons of unexploded ordnances every year.

Posted by: Sundial | Apr 17 2022 18:08 utc | 81

ptb @ 70
In less than 2 months stockpiles of ammo across all of NATO are running low. Several countries have stopped sending ammo because they are just out. Pentagon is warning US is short. This is why the extreme of destruction is seen in Mariupol. One of Patrick Lancaster’s interviewees mentioned this week that WWI, revolution, civil war. WWII had all been fought right in his neighborhood and the lovely 19th century homes survived. Now rubble. How US prosecutes war.
Of course much of what is sent to Ukraine is directly diverted to the global black market but this does not change that resupply will not be easy. Daily the possibility of moving supply from Polish border to the front diminishes. Apparently most moves in civilian cars and small trucks. Supply of which is depleted. Gasoline and diesel are only harder to find. RF gets better a spotting and eliminating the vehicles.
Looking at vids of surrendering Ukrainian soldiers does not promise continued morale. If anyone beyond the politicized nutcases had wanted this war the Uke army would be far larger. Chechnya has over 1% of its population fighting in Ukraine. And offers five times as many. If 1% of Ukraine had been in regular army RF would never have invaded.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 17 2022 18:12 utc | 83

Posted by: v | Apr 17 2022 15:45 utc | 40
Just 21 hours ago, he was chatting with Mssers Mercouris and Christaforou. I noted these remarks with something like interest.
“It’s not the neocons? It’s the wall streeters?”
BULLETIN: In the US, these are jerseys of distinction without difference.
“When was the last time the side that required someone to deny something, anything, was historically the winning side of the argument? I’d like to know.”
BULLETIN: Crack a book. Flipping backward from the last Herr Marshall Chairman Schiff minority report, the Coalition of the Willing, HUAC 1938-1975, and Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2022 through the through the 30-Years War, Inquisition/Reconquista, and first first world war, formerly known as The Crusades to the preface of European intellectual history, First Council of Nicaea or the Peloponnesian War. You decide.
Can anyone tell me, Why did Mr Lira immigrate to Ukraine?

Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 17 2022 18:31 utc | 85

I’m curious if anyone may be able to provide links to what I’ll call a rumor for now (since I don’t have said links) that Ukraine not only drastically ramped up shelling on Donbas (per Jacques Baud’s numerous forays into the matter), but also were observed in a huge operation of clearing land mines that they had previously placed to allow for the imminent planned attempt to re-take Donbas by force. Curiously Baud never mentions this, and I can’t remember where I saw or heard it.
Any help much appreciated.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 17 2022 18:41 utc | 87

Can anyone tell me, Why did Mr Lira immigrate to Ukraine?
Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 17 2022 18:31 utc | 86

Gonzalo Lira is married to a Ukrainian woman, presumably they have family there. If it was me, I would have settled in Chile.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 17 2022 18:51 utc | 89

And my German ancestors immigrated from about 70 miles north of the Sea of Azov in the early 1870s. Good move on their part.

Posted by: DakotaRog | Apr 17 2022 18:55 utc | 91

Seer | Apr 17 2022 16:59 utc | 58
I’m with you: (i) The only unit of measurement in westworld is money; but (ii) textbook economists do *not* define money as resource; and (iii) when money does *not* effect manpower, it eadily degrades into instruments of war.
a propos westworld’s present enterprise chasing yield, I find this paper, The Impact of the Financial Crisis
on Emerging Asia, is a pleasant reminder that the credit crash of ’08 not only exposed the strengths and weaknesses of the imperial basket, but galvanized the BRICS formation which plagues NATO “strategists” stuck on on total world domination.

Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 17 2022 18:58 utc | 93

leprechaun (85).
That is a possibility, though we’ve seen how Ukrainian forces react to Russian friendlies in Bucha, so maybe the civvies in Ukraine though not all of them, might sit tight knowing the foreign mercs would not think twice about killing them and their families.
Also we are assuming that Ukrainian civvies (unknown amount) are Russian friendly first and foremost, I guess that possibility will be down to regions in Ukraine and how the civvies see themselves.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2022 19:19 utc | 95

UKRAINE NEEDS $50B ASSISTANCE FROM WEST; ALSO TO RAISE $50B WITH ZERO COUPONS- ZELENSKY’S ADVISER USTENKO
https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1515746695107252227
The Ukrainization of Western politics: Ukraine is full of thieves who have been honing their skills for 30 years and are coming for our money.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 17 2022 19:25 utc | 97

@84 oldhippie
I wish, but don’t think it’s that simple. Sure they’re going to run out of the big-ticket items, aircraft, tanks, and boutique eqipment. But You can feed pickup trucks, rifles, RPGs, small-drones, and basic artillery or Grad’s (either with modernized guided ammo), pretty much forever. This is straight-up repeat of cold war, it went on 40 years in half a dozen countries at once, nobody was running out of ammunition. Only thing new is the sensor and comms technology and that’s ultimately like consumer electronics (ie those $100k price tags on javelins are just a product of the US gov getting screwed … which will of course go on, but they just print the money so who cares?). Now one might question what happens if China feels the need to also play this game, but that’s not on anyone’s mind.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 17 2022 19:29 utc | 99