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April 10, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-44
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …
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Seems RSH has consensus. Posted by: Laurence | Apr 11 2022 4:31 utc | 201 Biden and his minions had a plan. They were about to launch their military action against the Donbass but the “bear blew first.” Posted by: K | Apr 11 2022 4:33 utc | 202 Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 2:59 utc | 188 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 11 2022 4:43 utc | 203 How to access Telegram? Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 11 2022 4:47 utc | 204
Yes, it’s helpful and appreciated.
Speak for yourself, not others. I’ve seen MANY commentators here say they are unable to access Telegram. Posted by: The Owl | Apr 11 2022 4:50 utc | 205 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 11 2022 4:43 utc | 204
What is really bizarre is that the Anglo-American Empire seems to be *all stick* and *no carrot* in their approach to everything. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 4:57 utc | 206 The Russian MoD Telegram channel is private, so web links only work if you are logged in to Telegram. Here are the two latest releases:
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Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 11 2022 4:58 utc | 207 @ Sushi # 163 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 11 2022 5:10 utc | 208 “From this point of view it makes sense to continue mustering the mass insanity, carrying it over from the sublimated war fever of Covidianism to the direct rabid frothing of —Flying Dutchman | Apr 11 2022 4:43 utc | 204. Posted by: Laurence | Apr 11 2022 5:10 utc | 209 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Apr 10 2022 16:54 utc | 44 Posted by: Berndt Braincell | Apr 11 2022 5:21 utc | 210 Sushi @163– Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 11 2022 4:58 utc | 207 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 5:37 utc | 212 psychohistorian | Apr 11 2022 5:10 utc | 208 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 11 2022 5:39 utc | 213 Is this the same Macron who is the Rothschild banker conduit to Hand, the Invisible? Posted by: K | Apr 11 2022 5:43 utc | 214 Seems like Boris Johnson promised Ukraine their coastal defense system. The RGM-84D2 Harpoon Anti Ship Missile with a ground based platform. This would mean that Ukraine would be able to target Russian ships up to 280KM. Puts Russia into a tight spot, where they would need to target it on delivery like they did the S-300 from Serbia right after it was delivered, or knock it out while it’s at sea or in the sky… Stupidity like this has a pretty high chance of Russia targeting it regardless of who is shipping it. With a potential attack on a Nato ally due to their id10cy… Let’s hope it doesn’t pan out, otherwise Russia will get a lot more heavy handed with their attacks as well as the scope of attacks getting significantly larger. Seems like Nato really wanted this war so they could blame Russia for their own actions of destroying their own country just to finish the agenda the WEF started with a great political excuse that is getting plastered everywhere by the MSM. Posted by: ExCommie | Apr 11 2022 5:46 utc | 215 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 11 2022 5:59 utc | 216 Posted by: Sushi | Apr 11 2022 0:55 utc | 163 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 5:59 utc | 217 ExCommie | Apr 11 2022 5:46 utc | 215
Slovakia. Posted by: Kukulkan | Apr 11 2022 6:00 utc | 218 Posted by: ExCommie | Apr 11 2022 5:46 utc | 215 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 6:12 utc | 219 Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 5:59 utc | 217
As I recall, that claim was made by Denis Pushilin based on the contents of a laptop captured when the Donetsk militia overran a Ukrainian headquarters. I don’t recall the Russians claiming that. Posted by: Kukulkan | Apr 11 2022 6:15 utc | 220 NZ becomes a belligerent, sigh: Posted by: Paul | Apr 11 2022 6:18 utc | 221 Eric Draitser over at Counterpunch thinks we’re all Russian stooges for thinking Butcha was UAF operation:
But not surprising, really … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 6:24 utc | 222 Arch Bungle @196 Posted by: Merlin 2 | Apr 11 2022 6:27 utc | 223 Posted by: DakotaRog | Apr 10 2022 16:38 utc | 41 Posted by: John Dowser | Apr 11 2022 6:35 utc | 224 K | Apr 11 2022 5:43 utc | 214 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 11 2022 6:40 utc | 225 Posted by: JohninMK | Apr 10 2022 21:56 utc | 124
Link to this article has been posted numerous times on MoA. Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 11 2022 6:46 utc | 226 Sushi @163 Posted by: Merlin 2 | Apr 11 2022 6:49 utc | 227 Posted by: Kukulkan | Apr 11 2022 6:15 utc | 220 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 6:49 utc | 228 Paul #221
Earth shattering news. Perhaps they will send some sheep in wolves clothing, explosive kiwi fruit, Maori war dancers. Who knows? Still, Ardern is a very obedient POS. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 11 2022 6:49 utc | 229 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 6:24 utc | 222 Posted by: Paul | Apr 11 2022 6:54 utc | 230 Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 11 2022 6:46 utc | 226
In short, the issue was autonomy, not just the language restriction. The rest of the piece is very good. Dismissing it as “garbage” is in fact garbage. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 6:57 utc | 231 Posted by: bjd | Apr 11 2022 0:22 utc | 153 Posted by: Anne B | Apr 11 2022 7:02 utc | 232 ))) #clunk ((( Posted by: Laurence | Apr 11 2022 7:04 utc | 233 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 0:39 utc | 156 Posted by: Anne B | Apr 11 2022 7:05 utc | 234 Posted by: bjd | Apr 11 2022 0:22 utc | 153 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 7:15 utc | 235 So much for S-300 supplied from Slovakia Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 11 2022 7:16 utc | 236 About the cargo-ship – Posted by: Anne B | Apr 11 2022 7:20 utc | 237 Yea NZ. Trying to get their arse handed to them like in Gallipoli. Posted by: Jezabeel | Apr 11 2022 7:22 utc | 238 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 11 2022 6:49 utc | 229 Posted by: Paul | Apr 11 2022 7:24 utc | 239 I’ll just add to the near consensus and thank Hack for posting the things he does from Telegram. Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 11 2022 7:30 utc | 240 things I learned this weekend–the US had a lot more control in Pakistan than I thought. I didn’t realize they could bring down the government. Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 11 2022 7:31 utc | 241 @Sushi | Apr 11 2022 0:55 utc | 163
What a demonic plan, I believe you got it right! An impressive chain of logic! The western ‘leaders’ who have been in on this must all be punished to the maximum extent of the law. Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 11 2022 7:33 utc | 242 I know it its not earth shattering. Posted by: Laurence | Apr 11 2022 7:36 utc | 243 Posted by: Jezabeel | Apr 11 2022 7:22 utc | 238 Posted by: Paul | Apr 11 2022 7:51 utc | 244 @Sushi | Apr 11 2022 0:55 utc | 163 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 7:54 utc | 245 similar history paul. Posted by: watcher | Apr 11 2022 7:56 utc | 246 Sushi | Apr 11 2022 0:55 utc | 163 Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 11 2022 8:02 utc | 247 In general, I have seen very few comments or articles anywhere that’d detail the enormity of the task Russia faces in rebuilding an entirely new internet architecture, sites and securtity walls. The reason i say that is that a cursory look at the companies that cut ties with Russia is literally a who’s who list of all the dominant players in the technology field, be they software, web or even hardware (what’s the deal with Cisco routers for example). Sure, some can be replaced by Chinese tech fairly quickly but others need to be built up from scratch. To my own mind, I think it’s high time this was done anyways and frankly, I see plenty of opportunity there for enterprising young (and not so young) talent. Posted by: Anne B | Apr 11 2022 8:16 utc | 248 Posted by: watcher | Apr 11 2022 7:56 utc | 247 Posted by: Paul | Apr 11 2022 8:21 utc | 249 @Anne B | Apr 11 2022 7:02 utc | 232 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 11 2022 8:24 utc | 250 Posted by: Corsair66 | Apr 11 2022 3:30 utc | 194 Posted by: Anne B | Apr 11 2022 8:44 utc | 251 Some dots with…connection potential: Posted by: Nobody | Apr 11 2022 9:02 utc | 252 Anne B @249 Posted by: Merlin 2 | Apr 11 2022 9:11 utc | 253 If anyone is wondering, Telegram is open source so anyone can inspect the source code https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop Posted by: Anne B | Apr 11 2022 9:14 utc | 254 “Posted by: watcher | Apr 11 2022 7:56 utc | 247 Posted by: RonP | Apr 11 2022 9:33 utc | 255 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 11 2022 8:24 utc | 251
This is a sop to the comatose masses. If they were really serious they’d open source the back-end code. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 9:38 utc | 256
RSH – What Anne B said! And big thanks. Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 11 2022 9:39 utc | 257 Circe 201 Posted by: Alessandro Cagliostr | Apr 11 2022 9:42 utc | 258 🇷🇺Russian special operations unit has liquidated one of the odious leaders of the so-called Right Sector Ukrainian volunteer corps, Taras Bobanich, during reconnaissance and search operation five kilometres south of Izyum city ➡ https://facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/posts/3202775959965138 Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 11 2022 9:47 utc | 259 Dear Mr Putin, Posted by: Bearish Panda | Apr 11 2022 9:50 utc | 260 @Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 11 2022 7:31 utc | 241 Posted by: DaVinci | Apr 11 2022 9:54 utc | 261 Turkish “conspiracy theory: Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 9:55 utc | 262 I probably shouldn’t have focused too much on the term “geographically” (in the strict sense)… Posted by: Arioch | Apr 11 2022 9:56 utc | 263 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 9:38 utc | 258 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:07 utc | 264 Desperate attempts by VSU/AFU to leave Mariupol: Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:11 utc | 265 Latest conjectures, not very cheerful 🙁
Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 266 @ JohninMK | Apr 10 2022 21:56 utc | 124 Posted by: MarkU | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 267 There was correspondence here a while ago showing that Johnson could not possibly have gone to Kiev in the time slot set out. Today the WSWS has a photograph of Johnson supposed to be in Kiev with the piano player. Posted by: Walt | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 268 Posted by: MarkU | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 269 Posted by: Walt | Apr 11 2022 10:21 utc | 269 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:07 utc | 266
P2P with strong encryption is the only way to go IMHO – every kind of client-server model where the server is under control of a commercial or centralised entity will be subverted by the state as soon as it appears viable, without a doubt. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 10:25 utc | 270 Posted by: Walt | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 270 Posted by: DaVinci | Apr 11 2022 10:29 utc | 271 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 10:25 utc | 272 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:29 utc | 272 About the “pit” biolab in Azovstal, I’ve read about it from so many sources, we’ll see what comes out soon enough. Posted by: Arioch | Apr 11 2022 10:33 utc | 273 Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 267 Posted by: Oui | Apr 11 2022 10:35 utc | 276 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:45 utc | 275 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 10:14 utc | 268
This was the plan for the very beginning and I must say no matter how much progress Russia has been making on the battlefield and no matter how much “gas in the tank” it may still have, the fact is that Uncle Sugar has been watching all this from the comfort of his easy chair waiting for the opportune moment. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 10:48 utc | 276 In response to Richard Steven Hack@217, Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 11 2022 10:53 utc | 277 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 10:48 utc | 278 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:00 utc | 278 I should perhaps clarify that, despite the flowery language used, a “friendship treaty” is a standard formula for Russian commitment to diplomacy and rejection of hostilities between Russia and any of its neighbors. It is not a symbolic gesture of goodwill, but a cornerstone document of international relations. To tear it up is to formally set the level of relations to “indeterminate” and a step removed from declaring war. Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 11 2022 11:00 utc | 279 Walt Posted by: maria | Apr 11 2022 11:01 utc | 280 Very cryptic message from Russian ex-mil, https://t.me/mig41/16347: Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:02 utc | 281 Sorry but I just got to go back to that Boris photo. I just got the weird thing about it. Posted by: Walt | Apr 11 2022 11:03 utc | 282 https://t.me/readovkanews/30609 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:05 utc | 283 “Everything is being done to tightly bind both countries – Russia and Ukraine in a mutually destructive conflict for decades to come. @genshab” Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 11:11 utc | 285 > I switched to Signal once the 4 big info golems closed access to Trump Posted by: Arioch | Apr 11 2022 11:11 utc | 286 Posted by: Arioch | Apr 11 2022 11:11 utc | 288 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:19 utc | 287 Lavrov is taking a well deserved Easter break: Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:22 utc | 288 @Anne B | Apr 11 2022 9:14 utc | 256
Unfortunately, that is probably correct. Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 11 2022 11:24 utc | 289 @boo 283 Posted by: Nobody | Apr 11 2022 11:25 utc | 290 Posted by: Nobody | Apr 11 2022 11:25 utc | 291 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:28 utc | 291 Walt Posted by: maria | Apr 11 2022 11:30 utc | 292 @Arch Bungle | Apr 11 2022 9:38 utc | 258
Nobody is forcing you to use Telegram, and perhaps you should skip the information being copied here also. Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 11 2022 11:31 utc | 293 This may be related to why the French intelligence head got dumped…also as to who may holed up in Mariupol…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 11:33 utc | 294 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 11:11 utc | 287
Unfortunately, I’ve got no access here in UK to sputnik, even in telegram so don’t know what’s been said in that radio show 🙁 Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:39 utc | 295 From CNN…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 11 2022 11:40 utc | 296 maria | Apr 11 2022 11:01 utc | 282 Posted by: NotEinstein | Apr 11 2022 11:41 utc | 297 Germany, wth? What’s the point of this?
Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 11:42 utc | 298 @arioch 275 Posted by: Nobody | Apr 11 2022 11:43 utc | 299 I just want my text and video/audio messages to be inaccessible to spying agencies, and in my very limited understanding this is what’s highly unlikely with Signal. Posted by: Arioch | Apr 11 2022 11:44 utc | 300 |
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