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April 3, 2022
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2022-40

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Propaganda:

  • Gonzalo Lira proves without doubt that four different Ukrainian propaganda clips with different actors were all filmed at the exact same location, a 'battlefield' with several long destroyed Ukrainian tanks –> Propaganda BTFO (video)
  • Yesterday evening a Ukrainian station showed a video of Ukrainian troops driving through Bucha, north of Kiev, with several 'dead' people lying in the street allegedly 'killed by Russians'. There are two difficulties with these claims:
    – One of the dead appears to move his arm: video
    – Bucha was declared 'completely liberated' of Russian troops by its mayor on Thursday, March 31. Are we to believe it would take three days for such an 'incriminating' video to come out? Or that those 'dead' were lying there for three days with no one bothering?


Other issues:

U.S. regime change drive in Pakistan:

Afghanistan:

I had written that, according to witnesses, most of the casualties of the suicide bombing at the Kabul airport had come from U.S. soldiers shooting at civilians after the bomb exploded. The U.S. military had denied that. The Pro Publica report below finally proves it:

> “It sounded like a shooting range,” said one Marine who was knocked momentarily unconscious by the blast. “An overwhelming amount of gunfire, everywhere.” He hid behind the ditch wall until the tear gas gave him some cover, then sprinted into the airport.

One Marine thought he saw another gunman in a watchtower by the roof. He raised his rifle to take him out, when, suddenly, another Marine practically tackled him.

“It’s a fucking British guy!” someone else yelled, racing down the line to warn others. “Don’t shoot him!”

A Marine later told investigators that she began firing in the same direction as other troops. “I went in and saw a lot of Marines shooting” by a barrier, she said.

“There was a lot of smoke,” she said. “I couldn’t see where they were firing. They grabbed me, and I started firing my weapon as well. I don’t know what I was firing at.” <

Use as open thread …

Comments

April 3 (Reuters) – Russia has requested that the United Nations Security Council convene on Monday to discuss what it called a “provocation by Ukrainian radicals” in the town of Bucha after Kyiv accused Russian troops of killing civilians there.
“In light of the blatant provocation by Ukrainian radicals in Bucha, Russia has demanded that a meeting of the U.N. security council be convened,” Dmitry Polansky, Russia’s first deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, wrote on the Telegram messenger app.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 4 2022 3:40 utc | 201

malenkov | Apr 4 2022 3:18 utc | 191
Thanks for putting it that way. It is what occurs when the dogs of war are unleashed. In the west, hollywood always has the good guys wearing white hats and pure as the driven snow.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 3:41 utc | 202

Re: Peter AU1, #188
Well the people who suffered these “wild Oats” care about it and an eye for an eye rarely stops at 1 eye each and people can nurse their grudges a long, long time. I’ve no doubt that some of the people in Germany, the US and Poland supporting these crazy policies in Ukraine are enacting some vengeance for ancestral grievances, not just over old world war 2 complaints (Brzezinski for example. was clearly motivated by his family’s old Polish grievances against Russia in his anti-Russian policies and Polish-Russian grievances date back to the 1500s). Blow back may indeed be a bitch, but she is also quite promiscuous and never satisfied with a single visit or a single suitor. which is why diplomacy is so vital in these cycles of escalation, because escalation allows the airing of old wrongs to be brought to the fore and if these prior offenses are dealt with in a dismissive or flippant manner it will simply insult the other party and feed more fuel into the cycle of escalation.

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 4 2022 3:42 utc | 203

Russia-Ukraine live news: UN chief urges independent Bucha probe . . .Antonio Guterres says he was ‘deeply shocked’ by images of dead civilians in the Ukrainian town of Bucha and calls for an independent investigation.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 4 2022 3:53 utc | 204

Proof that Russia didn’t do it. . .
Canada condemns Russia for ‘murder of civilians’ in Bucha … Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and other world leaders condemned Russia on Sunday for its recent attack on the Ukrainian town of Bucha.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 4 2022 4:00 utc | 205

Zelensky is in fine form. . .from TheGuardian. . .
Describing Ukraine’s past pursuit of Nato membership: “They thought that by refusing Ukraine, they would be able to appease Russia, to convince it to respect Ukraine and live normally next to us … I invite Mrs Merkel and Mr Sarkozy to visit Bucha and see what the policy of concessions to Russia has led to in 14 years. To see with their own eyes the tortured Ukrainian men and women.”. .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 4 2022 4:07 utc | 206

Kadath | Apr 4 2022 3:42 utc | 202
I am aware of old hatreds, hereditary grievances, and also aware of how us anglos use these. That sonny and cher song, ‘the beat goes on’ comes to mind. https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/04/geopolitis-in-nutshell.html
War is about rape pillage and plunder and has been since the beginning of so called civilization. Nazi germany wanted to rape pillage and plunder the soviet union. not just that they wanted to wipe out the people and take the land. Your forbears were on the losing side. Perhaps in those days females were the fainter sex but we look at those who have come to power in five eyes and they are like witches from hell.
The thing that I hate most is how susceptible the majority of people are to Goerings very simplistic propaganda. I have have lost any sympathy for the majority mob mentality.
Nazi Germany attacked soviet union with the intent of killing off the population and owning the resources. Living space.
Unleashing the dogs of war. Nuremberg established the concept that aggression was the greatest crime. I think that is solid.
I read your post earlier. It is a terrible thing. Apart from simple empathy for other people and respect for their cultures, it is the understanding that we attack someone and lose, they are going to be very fvckin pissed.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 4:11 utc | 207

New witness testimony about Mariupol maternity hospital ‘airstrike’ follows pattern of Ukrainian deceptions, media malpractice
Western reporters such as AP’s Evgeniy Maloletka, embedded with Azov military, have been witnessing grotesque concoctions time and time again, from the maternity hospital to the theater to the streets of Bucha. Watching Ukrainian forces clear out most hospital buildings a couple days before the shelling, for instance, then leaving out that inconvenient detail. Then forgetting the interviewed witness who was certain nobody saw an airplane…
As western reporters collude with Azov in the production of atrocities they can blame on Russia, they are themselves implicated in the staging of war crimes. In thus joining combat operations, they may have forever injured the ability of any reporters anywhere to function as non-combatants.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 4 2022 4:14 utc | 208

Russia is a decadent, fascist player in the Global trade and financial system just like the US and the EU.
Their government like the western so-called democracies exist primarily to serve and protect the corporate interests of their financial elites while pacifying the rest of us to remain in stupification and willing compliance so long as we get enough sustenance and bread/circuses so we remain docile.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine at its base is about acquiring the resources of Eastern Ukraine to further enrich the corporations run by the oligarchs who in turn feed the political elites in Russia but also the global investors in tbose corporations.
From this perspective Abramovich at the table makes perfect sense. It sounds as if Russia is willing to negotiate for peace as long as they gain control of Donbass. Yes of course. Resources become theirs. Trouble is it doesnt seem Ukraine is willing for that hand over quite yet. The Russians will still need to fight for Donbass and then control it in order to control the resources.
This is not a civilization war it is an intramural struggle for relative economic advantage within the global trading system.
Hack left imo because he realized he’d been bamboozled into believing this was a civilization war to destroy and replace the current system and that Russia would not stop until they controlled all of Ukraine and dethroned the west in the globalization scheme. He’s intelligent enough to know he got fooled by the propaganda and know the truth of what he sees on the ground.
World reserve currency status at base is about the wealthiest finding the safest haven for their assets. Until those people including the oligarchs in Russia and China decide their parked assets are safer in roubles or yuan instead of western currencies and western assets (such as football teams among other Western items) this talk of the destruction of the dollar as a result of the reactions to the invasion is unrealistic.
Already only 40% of international trade is in USD. Mainly because there are enough USD available necessary to cleanly float the largest commodity transactions.
Will the dollar collapse as more trade is transacted in other currencies? Not so long as those who vote with their immense wealth feel safer keeping their own reserves in the USD, the Euro, pound, swiss franc, yen.
And the USD has strengthened during this calamitous time against these other currencies.
That’s the only action that requires study with respect to reserve currency status and the actors are the world’s richest individuals and governments. Politics of war and even trade cannot touch this particular dynamic at all.

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Apr 4 2022 4:14 utc | 209

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 2:49 utc | 181

America must stand with the “Western world” against the barbarous hordes of the East.
***********
Sir Norman Angell later clarified the true meaning of Atlanticism when he wrote that any world government must be led by a “nucleus of authority” — specifically by “the West” — which in turn must be led by “the English-speaking world.”

thaT’s FUKUS led ‘ruse based’ democrazies’ !
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/richard-poe/how-the-british-invented-color-revolutions/

Posted by: denk | Apr 4 2022 4:21 utc | 210

O o …

…!– eng.vm1.gg1.lb.ua :: 2022-04-04 06:11:37 –…

https://en.lb.ua/news/2022/04/02/12441_special_forces_regiment_safari.html
For this special occasion, Twitter let me see the full thread of ZioNazi drones under b’s tweet on the subject. Just a reminder of what Twitter has become under the Great Zianus of `Twitter Site Integrity’. #EpicFail https://www.npr.org/2020/03/02/811338220/twitter-head-of-site-integrity-on-fighting-election-disinformation

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 4 2022 4:23 utc | 211

malenkov@185:
A more appropriate place would be Shangrila – somewhere in the Himalayas I believe.

Posted by: digital dinosaur | Apr 4 2022 4:32 utc | 212

The Orban victory in Hungary will keep NATO from doing really crazy shit until it dies as part of this civilization war….thankfully

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 4 2022 4:32 utc | 213

Serbia’s Aleksandar Vucic Prevails in Presidential Election, Clinches Second Term – 03.04.2022, Sputnik International https://sputniknews.com/20220403/serbias-aleksandar-vui-prevails-in-presidential-election-clinches-second-term-1094449356.html

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 4 2022 4:37 utc | 214

I just finished reading The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg about the underreported effects of electricity and RF transmissions on humans and other beings on spaceship earth….
Any other barflies gone down this rabbit hole? I guess I feel lucky I don’t seem to be as effected as some….whew
When you have a society motivated by the God of Mammon and monotheistic values that don’t respect ourselves and the world in which we live, we live blinded by what should be cautious prudence about our embracing advances of science and willingness to back away from technology that shows itself to be dangerous to living things.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 4 2022 4:48 utc | 215

Circe, various re Abramovich/Medinski
I concur with your position that these oligarchs cannot be trusted and I am also taken aback as for Putin’s need to allow the presence of Abramovich.
What happens if Medinski is somehow overpowered by Abramovich? Why Medinski? What skin does he have in the game? why not wait until arrival at the Kremlin before broadcasting any conclusions after the talks?
One could question Putin’s tacit acknowledgment of Medinski’s declaration. Why the absence of reaction or repudiation? What is he trying to prove? His good faith? Doesn’t VVP know that he will never be seen or viewed or presented as the excellent human being he is?
That troops needed rotation? old guard is replaced only after the arrival of the new guard. Post is never left vacant. This would be contrary to any military school of thought.
You are right, Circe, this is a real gem of a mess. Must be the price to pay to find out who Medinski is.
Then, the Kremlin seems to think that the Ukrainian side will stick to some agreement? How naive can they be? Haven’t they learned yet that they are dealing with untrustworthy people trying to gain time?
Inasmuch as the Russians want to spare the civilians, which is laudable, they must realize that “on ne fait pas d’omelettes sans casser des oeufs”. Chalk them to Zelinski.
VVP should tell Zelinski: “You, and you alone will have to bear full responsibility for any and all civilians killed by and because of your NAZI friends and cronies. And you will pay for it, no matter where you go hide.”

Posted by: CarlD | Apr 4 2022 5:15 utc | 216

@42, 43
Those where not false flags, the hospital was a fake, the second is still contested. But as you probably remember we where talking about a bio false flag (virtually impossible to stage) or a chem false flag (very hard to stage given the circumstances).
But I guess the greatest thing about always being right is that you’re automatically right about having been right even when you where obviously wrong.

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Apr 4 2022 5:19 utc | 217

A massive concession, being the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kiev, occurs coincidentally with Oligarch Roman Abramovich present at negotiations in Turkey. Ugh, talk about really bad optics!
Funny, because one fact about Zionists: they never give up an inch. Someone else’s inch; oh, that’s a different story!
So how is Ukraine repaying what many viewed as capitulation by Putin via (Peter AU’s interpretation of) Abramovich ie low-level, yes, I agree very, very low negotiators in Turkey?
Answer: Ukraine mounts an equally massive war crimes case against Russia alleging horrific war crimes including rape.
Here’s what could be going on behind the scenes.:
While Putin and his circle are dodging all kinds of rapid fire from USNATO and the UN regarding horrific war crimes, with almost the entire world, everyone obsessing over the gigantic DISTRACTION around Bucha, the Ukes and their partners in crime are sneaking around smuggling thousands of reinforcements and everything under the sun from West to East and South of Ukraine.
The battle for Eastern Ukraine is make or break for Russia and Putin. Everything is riding on this Operation’s success.
Now that Putin sees, and oh, I pray he sees, how serial insane-Ukraine repays a concession; I’m hoping he’ll double down in the East and not loose sight of what’s at stake; reputation being the least.
Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; shame on me.
Everything hangs in the balance. No do-overs.
This is serious. This is existential.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 5:22 utc | 218

@ Jörgen Hassler | Apr 4 2022 5:19 utc | 216
back to bang your favourite drum for the moa audience? lololol… i suppose you think the so called ”bucha massacre” doesn’t qualify as a false flag either…. it seems it takes a lot to impress you!
this is like a game of baseball… you can only swing the bat at these false flags so often before you strike out!

Posted by: james | Apr 4 2022 5:23 utc | 219

@ circe….
you remind me of richard steven hack a wee bit…. you figure you know what is going on and how to interpret it.. i suggest you don’t know shit and would be better served to just observe and watch, as opposed to concluding on what you think you know… in other words – less talk and more time reading… here is a quote i just read that reminded me of you – :NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg told CNN that the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kyiv is not a real withdrawal, but preparation for the “next attack.”
NATO is also “not sure” that Russia is “negotiating in good faith with Ukraine.”
jens stoltenberg is a real hoot! lol… not sure russia is negotiating in good faith… that is good for a hearty laugh!! but i am sure he is quite sure zelensky is negotiating in good faith! i feel like i am reading a mad magazine from when i was 12 over 50 years ago!!! anyone who believes these ignoramus’s need to give their head a shake… but i think stoltenberg is onto something with regard the ”withdrawal” of russian troops from kyiv…. he doesn’t know jackshit and he should just say that upfront… i think most posters here would be well served to think the same and say a lot less then they typically do…

Posted by: james | Apr 4 2022 5:30 utc | 220

Posted by: CarlD | Apr 4 2022 5:15 utc | 215
Nice, perceptive comment. Relieved to see someone gets it.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 5:31 utc | 221

Circe | Apr 4 2022 5:22 utc | 217
You are going TDS again. Western propaganda is meaningless for Russia and the majority of the world. All are aware that US has been there done that consistently through its history. The pen is mightier than the sword? Alot of swords in Russia and China and with US threatening sanctions on India that adds another billion or so swords.
Wait and watch. Read Montgomery’s good advice.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 5:33 utc | 222

Posted by: Jörgen Hassler | Apr 4 2022 5:19 utc | 216
You swallowed ukro-propaganda hook, line and sinker. You’re dumber than I thought.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 4 2022 5:34 utc | 223

indian punchline from today – april 4
Fake news in Kiev heralds cruel April
we are in the window of time i spoke of a month ago of concern astrologically… i know.. you don’t believe in astrology, so i won’t bore you.. but, here we are anyway..

Posted by: james | Apr 4 2022 5:37 utc | 224

@ james | Apr 4 2022 5:37 utc | 223
How big is the window?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 4 2022 5:42 utc | 225

The withdrawal around Kiev is not a concession…say it again…the withdrawal around Kiev is not a concession.
Talks right now are meaningless and everyone knows it. Send whoever you want to negotiate, send Trump, Will Smith and Chris Rock, it makes no difference. Nobody on the Russian side is unaware of how the AngloZionists operate.
All that matters is where the borders are when the war is over. From there one can decide who won and who lost.

Posted by: Haassaan | Apr 4 2022 5:42 utc | 226

@ psychohistorian | Apr 4 2022 5:42 utc | 224 – the mars-saturn conjunction is tomorrow…. one could say this is the beginning of the war, which it looks like it is given what i am reading – indian punchline for starters…. he is saying 1 month here.. a simple barometer, we can go from the new moon of a few days ago to the full moon – april 16th area.. by then, i think we will see what this is all about… it is interesting how the bucha massacre false flag is being run up the pole at the moment.. perhaps the west are going to call for something stupid in the next day.. hard to know anything more specific.. i am sorry.. thanks for asking..

Posted by: james | Apr 4 2022 5:49 utc | 227

james | Apr 4 2022 5:37 utc | 223
these couple of paragraghs from BHADRAKUMAR sets it ot well.
To be sure, a whole month lies ahead where the western strategy will be to incessantly manufacture fake news, intensify the information war. Even some false flag operation may be staged under the supervision of western intelligence operatives.
In a worst case scenario, Kiev may even play its last card — chemical weapons. Russia has publicised details of locations where Ukraine has kept stockpiles of chemical weapons. The US is known to have supplied as military aid special gear (gas masks, protective clothing, etc.) to cope with chemical weapons and given special training for collective protection.

Western propaganda which now seems to be the main weapon against Russia will have no more effect than a feather duster.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 5:54 utc | 228

WOW! See the comments!
I found the original of the Ukrainian police video from April 2nd on YouTube.

Special forces of the National Police are cleaning up the city of Bucha – National Police of Ukraine, April 2, 2022
Currently, the city employs fighters of the established special purpose regiment of the SAFARI National Police, which includes representatives of special police units, fighters of KORD and Thor, as well as specialists of the explosives service. Today, April 2, in the liberated city of Bucha, Kyiv region, special units of the National Police of Ukraine began clearing the area of ​​saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops. Specialists of the Explosive Ordnance Disposal Service inspect the places of war crimes of the Russian Federation and seize explosive devices and ammunition that have not detonated. Law enforcement officers inspect every yard and shelter, communicate with people and provide assistance to local residents. Citizens who had to endure the horrors of the occupation are helping the police as much as possible. The police are doing everything possible to restore law and order in the liberated territories.

Go and check the top comments for the video! (Translations cached here)

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 4 2022 5:59 utc | 229

@ james | Apr 4 2022 5:49 utc | 226 with the response about window of potential conjunction effect…thanks
I think that the public/private finance war is a good choice for the energy focus….what we are seeing seems historic to me.
If Russia can clearly blow the Bucha story out of the water at the USNC meeting tomorrow, the path forward narrows and steepens for empire….and we live in it…grin
Sleep well knowing the PPT (Plunge Protection Team) is manipulating the US Futures markets to keep us all “safe” until tomorrow when the private banks take over the shit show

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 4 2022 5:59 utc | 230

Circe | Apr 4 2022 5:22 utc | 217
I think you are being a bit exaggerated with your concerns. As I see it the pressure on the Kyiv region was a legitimate part of the original plan. It did lead to the whole Ukraine government running away to Lvov and it did mean that their forces in the East could not be reinforced. It also gave the world a signal that Ukraine wanted to preserve control of the Western half of the country while being quite happy to destroy the East and the people in it.
So from now on there are few people in Eastern Ukraine who really want to be under the control of its government whereas before the invasion the world may have thought that it was all one happy country. So by sending a relatively junior negotiator Medinsky to handle talks with Zelensky, Putin has confirmed that he has little hope for meaningful progress based on the fact that the CIA is controlling the dialogue and is determined to fight to the last Ukrainian.
Note the timing of the ruble payment arrangements. This will add to the pressure on Zelensky after the loss of Mariupol and now the progressive destruction of the cream of the CIA trained army in the DOnbass. Abramovich is there to represent the Ukraine oligarchs whose personal fortunes are on the line and who will be given a role in the future Ukraine only if they start playing ball with the Russians now. Their interests also have a big influence on Zelenzky and the corrupt US politicians who have their snouts in the Ukrainian money trough.
Putin is still setting up the chess board for the end game. In my opinion he doesn’t actually want the peace talks to go well right now because Zelensky and the CIA are not desperate yet. As has been noted many times on MOA he offers his best deal first. That was the one where Ukraine gives up the Donbass and Crimea and demolishes its army and the Nazi influence. Clearly that has been rejected so now it will struggle to continue as a separate country.
Poland will claim its bits while Hungary will also have a go. The world will watch while Ukraine literally dissolves. And all the while the West’s capacity to play its destructive games will be destroyed by rendering its financial system and its sanctions irrelevant.
Putin is playing for all the marbles. He has had a decade to plan this and he is totally in charge of the agenda. The West is in reaction mode to everything and has not been able to initiate a single effective counter action. Even the blizzard of negative media is a weapon in the hands of Putin. Each success of Russia means that another media player has to eat their words. Sooner or later the world is going to realise that everything they have been fed by the media is bullshit.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 4 2022 5:59 utc | 231

Petri Krohn | Apr 4 2022 5:59 utc | 228
I watched that video earlier. The vehicle run over by an apc with a body in it… Ukraine has form on that. At the moment, my impression from various video is that first there was MLRS strikes, then an armored column moved through, then the crew shooting people, then the propaganda crew moved through.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 6:15 utc | 232

My grandfather was a POW in WW2. He was in with Russians and British amongst others. He reckoned the Russian officers were really great, but the average Russian conscript soldier was an animal. He also thought his German captors were better men than the American liberators. Lol.

Posted by: Jezabeel | Apr 4 2022 6:37 utc | 233

Newest from Bhadrakumar
APRIL 4, 2022 BY M. K. BHADRAKUMAR
Fake news in Kiev heralds cruel April
https://www.indianpunchline.com/fake-news-in-kiev-heralds-cruel-april/

Posted by: ka | Apr 4 2022 6:39 utc | 234

Did Zelensky before the green screen actually mention Bucha? https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/03/zelensky-says-russian-forces-committing-genocide-a77192

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 4 2022 6:54 utc | 235

Video: Kiev Territorial Defence in Bucha Given Green Light to Shoot Those Not Wearing Blue Armband https://sputniknews.com/20220403/kiev-territorial-defence-fighters-in-bucha-were-allowed-to-shoot-anyone-not-wearing-blue-bandages-1094446000.html

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 4 2022 6:55 utc | 236

This is also an OT thread so a little more bullshit.
anything archaeological that appears in MSM I usually read because it’s an interest of mine and normally separated from politics.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-04/-mithaka-cultural-landscape-silk-road/100959802
I guess there’s something behind it but that one was pure bullshit. No pics of any form of quarries, sandstone is everywhere, and silcrete can be found throughout much of inland Australia. from what I have read, there were very long trade routs throughout Australia, but this was for materials or products produced in a limited area. Silcrete tools are a dime a dozen that can be picked up anywhere. Much rarer are the tools made of stone not found in the area. i guess two examples from personal experience is black stone hand axes I picked up in central Queensland and a green translucent stone spear head I picked up in the Kimberlies.
Out near coober pedy the most common tool I found was made from potch (opal without color).
Very much woke ‘human rights’ which doesn’t do jack shit for the aboriginal people.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 6:59 utc | 237

@malenkov
The exact date of birth is important here. The thing you mean could be of importance till a birth date of 12/1945 and 1/1946. There was a lot of raping in the period end of 1944 till may be summer 1945. I know such stories from my family who escaped from an area which is Polish today. Such things have been taboo but leaks were there. An aunt of mine who was 15 at that moment got psychologically broken for the rest of her life from it. Most women took it like a natural plague, let us say flooding. But they did not like to memorize it.
What the Germans did in Russia was taboo as well. There was no unbeatable hatred of anything Russian in our family. When I was 5 years old we played with Russian soldiers in their manoever break. Nice guys who just wanted to entertain themselves and let us play with their equipment. My parents did not like it but made no story about it.
The wounds cut into people from the Turkish/’Armenian clash were and are much deeper and longer lasting.
I do not accept that the German political elite is motivated by any anti-Russian feelings. These are tools for them for domestic use. And a useful divertion from being vassal.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Apr 4 2022 7:08 utc | 238

Wouldn’t it have been better for Russia to go to a straight “Rubles, yuan, rupees, or nothing” policy for all products for unfriendly countries?

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 4 2022 7:15 utc | 239

Il continuo ammassarsi di mezzi russi in Bielorussia mi fa’pensare alla calma prima della tempesta su kiev.

Posted by: Alessandro Cagliostr | Apr 4 2022 7:29 utc | 240

John Kennard | Apr 4 2022 7:15 utc | 238
As Keating once said, ‘I’m going to do you slowly’.
Correction ‘I wanna do you slowly’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVuJLiuo5zc
Just a pissant country on the arse end of the world but Keating’s mouth was something else.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 7:35 utc | 241

Briefing by Igor Konashenkov, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, as of 10 a.m. on April 4, 2022
▪️ A group of troops of the Donetsk People’s Republic, developing an offensive, seized a fortified area and liberated the settlement of NOVOBAKHMUTOVKA. During the fighting, up to a company of the enemy’s 25th Airborne Brigade was destroyed,
▪ Units of the People’s Militia of the Luhansk Republic advanced two kilometers and blockaded the settlement of NOVOTOSHKOVSKYE from the east and south.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continued strikes against Ukrainian military infrastructure.
▪ On April 4, an air strike near the town of Lysychansk destroyed the command post of the 24th Independent Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and warehouses with ammunition, weapons and military equipment located nearby.
▪ On April 3, an air strike on the BALOVNOYE airfield on the outskirts of NIKOLAEV confirmed the destruction of three helicopters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
▪️Russian air defence assets shot down six unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of NIKOLAEV, KHERSON, KURAKHOVKA, INDUSTRIALY, and VELIKAYA NOVOSELKA.
▪️For the night, the Russian Air Force’s operational-tactical aircraft struck 14 Ukrainian military facilities.
Among them: two command posts, two Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile launchers in the Krasnogorka and Verkhnetoretskoye areas, one artillery battery, two rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition depots and three fuel depots, as well as six strongholds and areas where AFU combat equipment is concentrated.
A total of 125 aircraft, 91 helicopters, 392 unmanned aerial vehicles, 226 surface-to-air missile systems, 1,936 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 211 multiple rocket launchers, 833 field artillery guns and mortars, and 1,810 special military vehicles have been destroyed since the start of the special military operation.

Posted by: sitrep | Apr 4 2022 7:38 utc | 242

@230 Cyberhorse
Don’t get me wrong. Everything you wrote about the gains with the Kiev plan, I thought about earlier and was going to comment on with a positive spin, before I read the article on Abramovich having a special place at the negotiating table “as President Vladimir Putin’s personal advisor next to Ibrahim Kalin, President Tayyip Recep Erdogan’s advisor…outranking the Russian delegation” at the precise meeting where it was announced that Russian troops would be withdrawing from Kiev. I was gobsmacked! At the very least the optics were terrible, and apparently some in the Russian government and media thought so too.
His misplaced presence there already bothered me at the time, but I kept it to myself, and didn’t take it seriously, thinking he was there to help his sanctions cause. However, when I read that he had a heightened presence authorized by Putin, that totally blew me off course, and then the news about the Bucha massacre went viral. So I thought what a price to pay for retreating from that area! So, suddenly I was 180 degrees from where I started.
Besides, no one has concrete proof that the Kiev manoeuvre was a feint, so I really don’t appreciate being labelled shit, TDS etc.
It could also be that Putin got enough benefit to justify a withdrawal that became necessary to avoid further loss of life for insufficient gain. So what if it was unplanned and necessity led to a different course! The best laid plans of mice and men oft go awry especially in War. However, as a negotiating chip; he got nothing in return except the massacre claim thrown back in his face.
Everything else I agree with you on. It’s just that I don’t trust Abramovich and his undue influence in Putin’s orbit. As far as him having some kind of pull with Ukie Oligarchs; he could handle that on his own as a favor to Putin. I’m sure he owes him quite a few.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 7:41 utc | 243

“Asked about the video, a senior presidential advisor, Oleksiy Arestovych, said in an interview posted on YouTube Sunday: “The government is taking this very seriously, and — https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/27/zelenskyy-worried-about-western-financial-support-after-video-surfaces-showing-ukraine-military-torturing-russian-pows/
His words superimposed on a Zelensky pic. Anyone know the last time Zelensky referred to any specific event in Ukraine?

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 4 2022 7:43 utc | 244

Circe | Apr 4 2022 7:41 utc | 242
Read a little history. Study current Russia (difficult with current cancel Russia culture)
Don’t take Aussie scribbler as word of god.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 7:51 utc | 245

Orthodox Easter is April 24th. There are two Easters this month. People who calculate the battle in Eastern Ukraine will last a month, should factor these in.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 7:54 utc | 246

I’m totally uninformed about politics there, if someone can shed light would be nice.
Posted by: ptb | Apr 3 2022 15:56 utc | 36
Country looted into the ground, international loans sought by the looters, debt to be saddled on the looted.
A nice small-scale case-study of what has been SOP around the world for decades.

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 4 2022 7:55 utc | 247

also two strange things: [https://i.imgur.com/gI8oBnu.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gI8oBnu.jpg) this corpse was lying with arms stretched out. hands were tied for propaganda effect later.

[https://i.imgur.com/z8WtA0t.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/z8WtA0t.jpg) here gloves were put on later. who wears gloves like that? question is why?

Posted by: uduni | Apr 4 2022 8:00 utc | 248

Circe | Apr 4 2022 7:41 utc | 242
I find it interesting that no one seems to have considered the future role of Ukraine’s oligarchs. It is well known that Kelensky is a creature beholden to Kolomoisky but what of the others such as Pinchuk and Ahkmetov? Soros is in the mix there somehow. Ukraine is rich in resources and a fairer spread of the country’s wealth has to be a key factor in its rehabilitation.
So if a “tame” oligarch like Abramovich can be an observer at the current “preliminary” final settlement I see that as adding another perspective to the overall deal. If he outranks other members of the junior negotiating team its no different to being deputy captain of the under-15 high school football team. We know that Putin sorted out Russia’s oligarchs into “friends” and “enemies” with the “friends” being allowed to do their commercial stuff so long as they stayed out of politics. Ukraine is crying out for the same treatment because its obvious that oligarch control of politicians both in Ukraine and the USA is the reason for many of the current problems.
Apart from anything else I suspect that financial considerations in terms of who gets what in the carve up of the future Ukraine cake is an important aspect of any peace negotiations. Someone at the table with a deep understanding and “professional connections” with the people currently with their snouts in the trough provides an insight which a mediator like Medinsky is unlikely to possess.
At the end of the day Abramovich won’t have the power to decide anything but his input will help Putin to better understand which way the commercial winds are blowing. Some oligarchs stand to do very well out of the destruction of the fortunes of others in the split up of Ukraine. Setting them off against each other at this stage is a great way for those who want to be friendly with Russia to get their foot in the door.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 4 2022 8:11 utc | 249

Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 7:41 utc | 242

It’s just that I don’t trust Abramovich and his undue influence in Putin’s orbit.

As well you shouldn’t – nobody associated with Chabad Lubovitch should be trusted.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 4 2022 8:12 utc | 250

MANY years ago I was stating that there would be NO “World Government.” Am I now correct to say that we’re safe from that beast? (somewhat rhetorical, but kind of wondering folks’ take)
Posted by: Seer | Apr 3 2022 20:15 utc | 91
First came the Chinese credit-card, amd then came social-credit . . . .

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 4 2022 8:20 utc | 251

I am getting completely confused. The troop movement was one thing but this “negotiator” being a Putin emissary I don’t get at all.
Obviously he didn’t go in there just because he wanted to. But reading the article I get very bad vibes. I had very bad vibes when the Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett PERSONALLY made the trip to talk to Putin. The vibe I got was that it seemed like a confidential message was being sent to Putin from some special people.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 3 2022 18:44 utc | 74
Oh F#CK should I dignify this?! Putin will never capitulate to Zionist threats or billionaire tycloowns who indulge in foie gras and oysters on the French Riviera!
Posted by: Circe | Apr 3 2022 19:33 utc | 84
This whole story surrounding Abramovich’s presence during negotiations on the Kiev retreat concession has legs.
Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 3:07 utc | 186
You sure as hell are singing a different tune here today. So now you are fine with Abramovich BEING AN APPROVED member of the negotiation team serving obviously “someone’s interest” but yesterday a suggestion of that nearly destroyed your well being !!! Wowzer, what a difference a day makes.
“Here’s what I would like to see: b, Saker and Martynov address the retreat from Kiev in the context of Abramovich’s presence at the negotiating table as appointed by Putin.”
Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 1:05 utc | 164
You definitely sound confused and disoriented. Abramovich guiding Russia’s war machine ???? Give me a break. What are you smoking ?
“Why does everything always come down to appeasing powerful Jews that can’t be trusted?”
Posted by: Circe | Apr 4 2022 3:24 utc | 194
So why is this particular guy there ? To drink coffee with the Turks ? He is what he is, a Jew. Neuland is a Jew. Blinken is a Jew. Money + Ukraine = Jews If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. If he is there then it sure as hell looks like someone with real pull placed him there for some very good reason. I can’t for a second think how Abramovich could be representing/serving the best interest of Russians though and I don’t for a second think that this bozos calls the shots on troop movement. Good News to be announced on Victory Day on May 9th in Moscow would be my bet.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 4 2022 8:20 utc | 252

Russia-Ukraine live news: UN chief urges independent Bucha probe . . .Antonio Guterres says he was ‘deeply shocked’ by images of dead civilians in the Ukrainian town of Bucha and calls for an independent investigation.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 4 2022 3:53 utc | 203
It will be carried out in the same way as it was done with WMD in Iraq. Then to put the cherry on the tort of impartiality of the international community of the willing, the New York Times best reporter will get a secret “smoking gun” report from a Nigerian diplomat working in Russia that will “prove” that it was the Russians. Investigation done by the West are a BS Circus for the Plebs. BBC/CNN/FOX has cranked up The Mighty Wurlitzer to maximum volume to make sure the Plebs “get it”. Impartiality is impossible.
As to where to locate UN , I vote for Cambodia.
“Poland will claim its bits while Hungary will also have a go.”
Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 4 2022 5:59 utc | 230
Not a chance. The Poles who were at war with Germany in 1939 didn’t even sit at the negotiation table when the war ended. In this situation with Ukraine, Poland has near zero chance of getting any territory besides some bombs dropped on it if it does not behave. Let me go all the way, ZERO chance. Poland has no pull in making any decisions on the Grand Chessboard, as any such move will only be made if Washington or London will it so. Those two capitals are the centers of Power in the West. Poland is a very weak Pawn used in the game to be sacrificed.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 4 2022 8:50 utc | 253

@ Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 4 2022 8:11 utc | 248
A few years ago a large amount of dollar denominated loans with extreme high interest rates were foisted upon Ukraine- thanks to WB/IMF and the usual suspects.
These are designed to bankrupt Ukraine and hence open up its assets to the usual suspects.
Additionally the Black Soil of Ukraine is the substantial bread basket of the world. However due to its Soviet socialist legacy the man largely belongs to the populace in small parcels which can’t ever be sold to foreigners.
The Ukrainian Parliament has consistently rejected the change to these ownership criteria under every owned government including Zalensky. – hence the banning of the many old Socialist parties that represent the majority of the country in the plan of a Parliament that will open up the ownership to global agroindustry.
It’s what the hog fight and s largely about.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 4 2022 8:51 utc | 254

Same old story!
By Сolonelcassad
The banality of staged atrocities.
1. It is obvious that the story with Bucha simply 1 in 1 copies a similar methodology of staged accusations that everyone could observe in Syria (regardless of whether the participants in the staged picture are alive or dead) since 2012, when only “bloody Assad” did anything in Syria.
2. It is obvious that such stories will continue, as they have continued in Syria for many years. Moreover, in the next episodes of the series, we will surely see the series “The sinister attack of the Russians using chemical weapons.” In Syria, this was done by “fighters for the freedom of Syria.” In Ukraine, “fighters for the freedom of Ukraine” are doing this. The template is the same, because the master of all this action is the same. The performers shoot a picture for the media, which is used by diplomats to encourage further action. Moreover, at all levels, the process is controlled from one center.
3. Russia’s arguments in the mainstream media and at the diplomatic level will not be accepted, because this is not a discussion, but a war of annihilation. Therefore, the facts provided by the Russian Federation will be swept aside according to the principle “if the facts contradict faith, then so much the worse for the facts.” What kind of faith they want to impose is not difficult to assess from the rhetoric of the US-controlled neoliberal media.
4. Nevertheless, it is important for Russia to explain the mechanism of such provocations inside the country for its own citizens, as well as to work with those groups in Western society that also did not buy into the “stories about the atrocities of the Assad regime” – on the one hand, there are anti-imperialist leftists, and on the other hand, the alt-right. So, you can’t go all out on this job.
5. Of course, such provocations will be used to impose new sanctions against the Russian Federation and intensify the supply of weapons, as well as to demonize the Russian Federation and dehumanize its population.
6. It is important to remember from the Syrian experience – despite a whole bunch of such provocations, they did not help the United States and its satellites achieve victory in the Syrian war. Neither Eastern Ghouta nor Khan Sheikhoun prevented Assad’s victory. Accordingly, realizing the meaning and consequences of such provocations, as well as taking the necessary measures to stop them, it is necessary to continue operations in Ukraine until the goals are achieved, which, in fact, they are trying to prevent with such provocations.
If you have already declared to fight the “Empire of Lies”, be prepared for its usual tools of warfare. And then, just another provocation, and some have already hung their noses. Don’t worry, there will be more. More cynical and bloody.
Learn to take a hit.

Posted by: ka | Apr 4 2022 8:59 utc | 255

so a “dead” guy moves his arm. Therefore it is ALL LIES and the Ukrainians did all that damage to Bucha and Mariupol just to make the Russian ne-nazifying liberators look bad.
Keep doubling down guys, Putin is going to win by sheer numbers at some point regardless.

Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Apr 4 2022 9:06 utc | 256

The slander that the Red Army raped its way across eastern Europe has been a standard part of the anti-communist/russophobic lexicon since Moscow did not fall.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 3 2022 21:11 utc | 105
Read Djilas’ _Conversations with Stalin._

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 4 2022 9:09 utc | 257

Peter AU1 #178

Helmer is very erratic. Sometimes he has solidly linked and documented pieces, other times its like something he has seen in a narcotic induced dream.

Well then some examples are in order for THAT throw away remark. Do link to these erratics for us to see.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 4 2022 9:25 utc | 258

Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Apr 4 2022 9:06 utc | 255

Keep doubling down guys, Putin is going to win by sheer numbers at some point regardless.

So you seriously believe a couple of dead bodies conveniently and conspicuously placed constitute a genocide?
And you’re all in on the notion that it HAS to be the Russians who left those conspicuously arranged bodies lying around for the express purpose of providing more fodder for the ‘war crimes’ junkies at the Hague Kangaroo Court for third world victims of Anglo-American imperialism ?
Wake tf up, man!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 4 2022 9:32 utc | 259

12 Russian transport aircraft An-124 “Ruslan” arrested in Ukraine
https://avia-pro.net/news/na-ukraine-arestovali-12-rossiyskih-transportnyh-samoletov-124-ruslan

Posted by: Kim | Apr 4 2022 9:42 utc | 260

John Helmer posits a very clear and sensible view of intention expectation and reaction: johnhelmer.net/how-to-read-the-war-in-reverse-without-outsmarting-yourself/
What none of the analysts has considered yet is that the Russian General Staff realized there were serious risks of a Ukrainian offensive – that’s to say, an attack across Russian borders, not merely counterattacks against initial Russian manoeuvres. There was every possibility of an Ukrainian battle group breaking northward toward Voronezh and then taking cover in civilian areas for an advance to include a swing southward towards Rostov, with the aim of encircling Donbass.
Why does everyone assume that the Ukrainians were planning for defence only? A major Ukrainian offensive on Crimea was imminent. The Russians, therefore, had to have a big defensive force in position until all the Ukrainian military infrastructure had been taken out.
What none of the analysts has considered is that the Ukraine was not being prepared by the US for a defensive war. In British military colleges, there has always been the belief that tactically the Soviets lost the Battle of Kursk. We all seem to forget that European, American and British understanding of the World War II battles is that they believe they can win in direct war with Russia on precisely that battleground.

If you can’t see the .net version, try .org

Posted by: NotEinstein | Apr 4 2022 9:44 utc | 261

CC:
The Russian Foreign Ministry reports that Britain has not agreed to a UN Security Council meeting on Bucha.
It is quite understandable that calls for an objective investigation from the UN Secretary General will be ignored. For exactly the same reasons that calls for an objective investigation into Eastern Ghouta and Khan Sheikhoun were ignored.
Because if we start digging into it seriously, it will turn out to be like the “chemical attack in Duma,” when the OPCW field experts who visited the site found no evidence that the Assad government had organized the attack, after which the OPCW leadership, under pressure from the United States and Britain, was forced to put pressure on the experts and change the report to keep the story quiet, with those responsible being appointed even before the investigation itself.
Of course, the story with Bucha, from which white threads are sticking out in all directions, all the more does not encourage “investigations”. Therefore, there is a 99% chance that we will not see any independent autopsy results either.

Posted by: hmmm | Apr 4 2022 10:10 utc | 262

The wisest attitude EU members could take now is to request an audit and repatriation of their gold reserves and store them inside their respective countries. Unless, of course, they are well aware that an audit will show there is no gold there or not enough gold and, at least this way, they can trade under the illusion that their gold reserves exist in full.
I had not realised until today that the storage of gold in the UK and USA was done under the guise of protecting it from the Soviet Union during the cold war. It equally amuses me and irks me that European Leaders are not at all that clever and have been useful idiots of USA and UK exceptionalism for far longer than I like to admit.
All around me I see EU economists & authorities ruled by emotive knee jerk reactions saying that Russia will have hyper inflation and ignoring the prices around them. We can print money but if we have no food, energy or raw materials to buy it is us who will collapse very quickly. Only deceitful agents or those with no clue cannot see it. No monetary or fiscal policy can correct lack of essential goods.
This is so obvious that surely EU leaders can also see it. Why they pursue it – by incompetence or deliberately – equally alarms me.

Posted by: maria | Apr 4 2022 10:18 utc | 263

I said I smell a rat and a rat it was.
Negotiations with hyenas and unnecessary withdrawal from Kiev brought a massacre of citizens that Russia took willfully under its custody.
Shameful behavior of aloof intermediaries pursuing own goals in the shadow.
This crime wont remain without consequences.
Leadership is now in question.
Many blades being sharpened behind the curtains.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 4 2022 10:21 utc | 264

Confirmed, our on duty linguist while pushing hard sitting on the throne after the morning coffee had a fantastic idea, Bucha, how do you pronounce that with a british accent? Gostomel, Irpen, or many other places won’t do it, Bucha, Putin Bucha, that will do it, and the rubes go for the laxative.
Zelenskiy calls Russian forces ‘butchers’ after civilian mass graves found around Kyiv

Posted by: Paco | Apr 4 2022 10:23 utc | 265

Posted by: LuBa | Apr 3 2022 15:03 utc | 22
the mockingbirded audience will have another orgasm…
That orgasm would also be fake!

Posted by: colin786 | Apr 4 2022 10:32 utc | 266

@John Kennard #238
If the objective is de-dollarization, it is unnecessary (and in fact harmful) to insist on impossible yuan/renminbi and/or ruble payments. Neither the yuan/renminbi or ruble are freely convertible or are supported by the banking infrastructure in the US/EU.
In the previous open thread, I posted a link to a Zoltan Pozsar/Yra Harris video – Pozsar put forward several examples of how trade (and the dollar/Treasury) cycle really works:
Importer borrows money to buy a cargo, borrows money to charter a ship going from port A to port B. This borrowing is via a Eurodollar loan from a bank. Once the cargo reaches port B and settlement completes, the above loans are repaid. The excess dollars (i.e. profit) are what get recycled in the Treasury auctions.
If this flow switches over to rubles after settlement, the excess is in rubles, for example.
Overall, Pozsar has made a number of very strong statements which a lot of people are taking seriously:
1) “Just In Time” being replaced by “Just In Case”. Between pre-2/24/22 supply chain disruptions and the now “good commodities” vs. “bad commodities” (Russian commodities), companies and even sovereign nations are now stockpiling commodities. This will reinforce the already existing commodity supercycle
2) 1970s type international financial system of “USD as our currency (USA’s), your problem (rest of the world)” is being replaced with “Our commodities (Russia and other commodity exporters), your payment problem (Pay in what the exporters want or do without)”.
This has many ramifications which are only now being understood. For example, all the banksters expected China to devalue the yuan/renminbi after COVID started – but China instead made it stronger. The consequence is that the yuan/ren ratio – which approached 40 at one point – has now returned to the 19-ish level which it was at in 1990. And China has been using this stronger yuan to buy oil and wheat. China now is holding 50% of the entire world’s wheat in storage…

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 4 2022 10:34 utc | 267

@Peter AU1 | Apr 4 2022 6:59 utc | 236
It is off topic but the Gosford Glyphs are quite interesting to say the least.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 4 2022 10:35 utc | 268

Discussing the rape of civilians is like grappling with an octopus. In the case of Soviet Union the onion has many fine layers. The primary layer IMHO is the one that is raised in this link which was given by Deplorable Commissar (Apr 3 2022 21:31 utc | 116)
https://ww2truth.com/2021/10/15/leather-jacketed-coke-snorting-jews-in-the-soviet-secret-police-torturing-raping-and-killing-gentiles-the-evidence/
“When the Bolsheviks seized the power ,that was so famously “lying in the streets” in early November 1917, they didn’t disguise the fact that they meant to rule by force and terror. Within weeks they established the coercive arm of their permanent revolution, the “Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counterrevolution and Sabotage,” Ve-Cheka for short or Cheka for shorter. Lenin placed the fanatical Pole Felix Dzerzhinsky in charge of it, and he in turn recruited a cohort of Latvians, Jews, and renegade Russians to help him devastate the Russian nation. The Cheka almost immediately launched into one of the most horrifying orgies of mass murder ever recorded, and men of Jewish blood, who like other Jewish leftists, retained their Jewish identity, played a very prominent role in it.”
There is no nice way to get around the issue of who dominated highest positions in key ministries of Power in the Soviet Union. The same trend can be noticed in all East European countries which were in the Soviet space (to this day). In today’s Ukraine we see people from the same “pool” in the personality of Neuland, Klichko, Zelensky, Kolomyski and many more. By the way, this trend didn’t go unnoticed in pre-WW II Germany.
Just incase, even the US mag “The Atlantic” dares to say the same,
“The Jewish officers who brought the Polish operation to Ukraine and Belarus, such as Izrail Leplevskii, Lev Raikhman, and Boris Berman, were arrested and executed. This was part of a larger trend. When the mass killing of the Great Terror began, about a third of the high-ranking NKVD officers were Jewish by nationality. By the time Stalin brought it to an end on 17 November 1938, about twenty percent of the high-ranking officers were. A year later that figure was less than four percent. The Great Terror could be, and by many would be, blamed on the Jews.”
What is not said often is the fact that armies are made of men who may be “normal”, psychopaths, sociopaths, mentally unstable, and people with various other mental traumas. The clever ones hide their problems, while the ones who don’t one hopes get thrown out. However in an existential war, no commander is going to worry about if some of his guys stole some stuff or raped a women. He’s going to worry about his disposition map, supplies and where the enemy is hiding. As long as the soldier does his job to the commanders satifaction, no one cares. This will be true for any army. Such is war.
However in the case of the Soviet Army, The Mighty Wurlitzer made sure to ingrain in the minds of the public that the Soviets were barbarians and the Allies the saintly troops (John Wayne) freeing the victims of German aggression. This propaganda has been injected wherever it was possible, but avoiding the crucial details to understand the phenomena in the case of the Soviets.
One such detail being who were the people that made up the army. Well to get the numbers we can be sure that they were the dirt poor peasants who probably couldn’t even read a newspaper or much less buy it. I know I am generalizing, but these were very naive people who could be told almost anything and they would buy it. Much like those today who wear masks inside cars.
Now this is where the next layer comes in, people who molded the minds of these soldiers. People like Ilya Erenberg (Jew) who had the knowhow of how to do it on these impressionable people going into combat. For motivation was the primary quality needed on the battle field.
https://ww2gravestone.com/ilya-ehrenburg-the-leading-soviet-propagandist-of-the-second-world-war/
“In one leaflet headlined “Kill” Ehrenburg incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human.
Ehrenburg’s incendiary writings certainly contributed in no small measure to the orgy of murder and rape by Soviet soldiers against German civi 1 j ans. Until his death in 1967, “his support for the Soviet state, and for Stalin, never wavered,” the Canadian Jewish Newsnotes. His loyalty and service were acknowledged in 1952 when he received the Stalin Prize. In keeping with official Soviet policy, he publicly criticized Israel and Zionism.”
We can read the same thing from the horses mouth,
https://thecjn.ca/perspectives/yoshke-odessa-goes-america/
“I talked about a famous article written by Ilya Ehrenburg, who called enemies subhuman, and who, in 1942, proclaimed that a soldier had wasted his day if he hadn’t killed at least one fascist. Then Psoy performed a 1943 Yiddish song titled, Yoshke from Odessa, which borrowed lines from the article and praised a brave Jewish soldier who killed his enemies by cutting them into slices, in order to avenge murdered babies and destroyed cities.”
This talk was given in CANADA (hint, Freeland).
These special NKVD Political Officers were stationed everywhere in the Soviet Army. Even generals had to worry.
“Colonel General Dmitrii Pavlov had the misfortune of commanding the embattled Western Front while Meretskov was in prison. On July 4, 1941, Pavlov was arrested by an NKVD special group and brought to Moscow. Two days later Lev Mekhlis, the Politburo-appointed member of the Military Council of Pavlov’s front and, in fact, Stalin’s representative, cabled Stalin that Pavlov’s six closest subordinates, all generals, should also be arrested. Stalin agreed.
Pavlov and three other generals under his command were accused of failing to follow Stalin’s orders to attack the Germans. They were unable to do so simply because their own troops had already been virtually wiped out by the advancing Germans after a previous order from Moscow to resist them. Pavlov was also accused of being a plotter: ‘While part of an anti-Soviet plot and a commander of the troops of the Western Front, [Pavlov] betrayed the interests of the Motherland by opening the front to the fascists.’ Pavlov was interrogated about Meretskov, and Meretskov was interrogated about him.”
Check on Wiki who is Lev.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 4 2022 10:36 utc | 269

Don’t know if this is legit,but if it is,Russia won’t Care,the US/have lost Ukraine.
⚡️The US Secretary of State allowed the lifting of sanctions against Russia to end the conflict in Ukraine
The United States is ready to lift sanctions on Russia in order to end the conflict in Ukraine if Kyiv asks for it, said the head of the State Department, Anthony Blinken. But until this happens, the American authorities intend to “tighten …

Posted by: Kim | Apr 4 2022 10:39 utc | 270

https://t.me/readovkanews/29997
Video filmed by the Ukr. police on 2nd of April in Bucha. No corpses seen…

Posted by: Boo | Apr 4 2022 10:39 utc | 271

Sputnik front page headlines right now

Bucha: Lavrov Says False-Flag Op Was Conducted in Town Outside Kiev After Russian Troop Withdrawal
Russia Will Demand a UNSC Meeting Over Situation in Bucha After UK’s Refusal
LIVE UPDATES: Russian Investigative Committee Launches Probe Into Ukrainian Provocation in Bucha
Kremlin: Russia Categorically Rejects Claims of Involvement in Deaths of People in Bucha
Ukrainian Police Claimed ‘Clearing Op’ in Bucha a Day Before Videos of Dead Bodies Emerged

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 4 2022 10:43 utc | 272

To Kim
And after reading european media, EU are now talking on sanctions on petrol and coal. There is no end to their insanity and incompetence. Yet it is our fault also as we elect them and allow it.

Posted by: maria | Apr 4 2022 10:50 utc | 273

According to RT, Latvia will pay for Russian gas in Rubles:
“Latvia’s main gas operator says it won’t rule out paying for Russian natural gas in rubles, revealing that the new settlement method announced by Moscow is being evaluated from a legal and business perspective.
“According to the first impression, the settlement procedure in Russian rubles does not formally violate the sanctions regime and is possible,” Latvijas Gaze said in a statement.”

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 4 2022 10:50 utc | 274

I agree with @hmmm 262 . The announcement of getting collaborators, the russian ration boxes and the white ribbons are strong circumstantial evidence but forensics would provide hard proof so they won’t happen, or not in any verifiable manner. Forensics from photos does provide a minimum of info. Michael Kobs pointed out a puddle near a body in the cellar. puddle means recent.
Also as Peter AU1 notes, there has been MLRS bombing before they entered the city which possibly caused casualties which are closer to the time the Russians left

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Apr 4 2022 10:55 utc | 275

Keep doubling down guys, Putin is going to win by sheer numbers at some point regardless.
Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Apr 4 2022 9:06 utc | 255
The usual apparent personalist obsession with Vladimir Vladimirovich, which in turn conceals the same goals everywhere: Cast your lot with NATO – Cast your lot with NAZIS – Push for regime change in Russia
-Refusal to implement two signed peace agreements that included reintegration of the Donbass
-Prohibition of russian language
-Official rejection of WW2 victors
-Semi-official adoption of NAZI regalia
-Official adoption of NAZI cultural forefathers
-Official integration of NAZI militias within armed forces
-Eight years of siege against Donbass
-Including an estimated 14000 dead civilians
-Dereliction of duty in tending to stranded internationals’ needs
-Unwarranted self-aggrandizement in international relations
-Intentional endangering of nationals
-Open praise of NAZISM
-Open calls for MUTILATION
-Open calls to MURDER CHILDREN.
The political position of the Kiev authorities is UNTENABLE, whether during peacetime or wartime.
The political background on which such positions are based is UNCONSCIONABLE, because it intrinsically requires ethnic and linguistic supremacism.
No, not everything is acceptable in defense of a 30-year old shithole, regardless of the name, flag, and density of western attachés.
If my own country had such a thorough NAZI infestation, I could only wish that it was placed next to Russia, so that the weather forecast could feature a rain of lead.
Z

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 4 2022 11:01 utc | 276

Gonzalo Lira commenting on another Bucha high res video
https://t.me/realCRP/4130
Look at this other video of the “Bucha massacre”:
It is incredibly well-crafted, with very expensive lenses, high production value, extremely expensive — and delicate — cameras.
The weird thing is, if they just discovered these bodies, why the high production value cameras?
Why did they take the time to shoot such a well crafted video — instead of tending to the bodies, and making sure that they were all dead?
Why are all the bodies undisturbed? In such a situation, people usually drag the bodies out of the street, and usually put them side-by-side. Certainly the military would do that, if only to allow for military vehicles to pass through the street. But they remain in the middle of the street. That just doesn’t make sense.
You do not see any blood, any gore, and the bodies are lying very “tidy”. Again, doesn’t make sense.
I have enough experience with film production, video production, videos of dead bodies, and the lies of the Ukraine side,to be fully convinced that this is a staged hoax.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 4 2022 11:03 utc | 277

One thing about the rapes-history, and I even think it was alluded to above, was that while the Soviet front-line units were (within limits, including excluding East Prussia) reasonably well-behaved, those following were distinctly less so, and the story that I’m thinking of in particular had a Soviet front-line officer actually warning German civilians against the followups as “animals.”

Posted by: John Kennard | Apr 4 2022 11:07 utc | 278

Posted by: maria | Apr 4 2022 10:50 utc | 272
Yes,unbelievable Circus.
Bozo the Clown,is very upset that he will no longer be able to build his 2 new ports for the Ukrainian Navy and for his Toy Navy to visit.
Infact they are all throwing their toys out of their cots at the moment aren’t they.
How dare the Russians,not kneel before thee.Lol
I bet the thermobaric Tos systems will turn up in the Dombass in many numbers now,after Ukraine’s continuing false flag antics.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 4 2022 11:23 utc | 279

DunGroanin | Apr 3 2022 21:34 utc | 118
Posted by: too scents | Apr 3 2022 21:40 utc | 121
…at this point what Imran Khan is doing really seems abusing the law and playing for time.
I wonder if that would end well for him and the powers he represents. Army refused yet to initiate military dictature for his cause. It doesn’t something short of total re-election of all government branches (including the president and PM) would resolve this standoff.
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Posted by: Paul | Apr 3 2022 22:36 utc | 134
I wonder if Westenr citizen still can make and carry patches like “UVWXY[censored]” ?
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Posted by: S | Apr 3 2022 22:48 utc | 138
Hypothetical timeline:
March 30: Russian troops leave.

Reportedly, artillery of UkrArmy immediately starty shelling Bucha after RuArmy leaves.
https://rg.ru/2022/04/04/antonov-kievskij-rezhim-pytaetsia-perevalit-vinu-za-vse-svoi-zlodeianiia-na-rossiiu.html
March 31: Bucha Mayor posts a video saying Russian troops left.
April 1: A “special group” (could be Ukrainian Nationalists, Georgian Nationalists, CIA, MI6, etc.*) enters Bucha, kills men wearing white armbands, and leaves.

April 2: reportedly Ukrainian Police/NaziGuards in their Facebook report they concluded “cleansing” of the town.
https://iz.ru/1314976/2022-04-04/politciia-ukrainy-zaiavila-o-zachistke-v-buche-za-den-do-video-s-telami
April 2: Ukrainian troops enter Bucha, discover the carnage, call in journalists.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 11:30 utc | 280

S | Apr 3 2022 23:59 utc | 152
You’re just not cut out to be a Russian.

Posted by: olly45 | Apr 4 2022 11:35 utc | 281

Reportedly Ukrainian info-warriors were asked to urgently delete Bucha videos they posted, because an arm movement, and yet worse, because another corpse is moving to sit up, as the car passes.
https://imgur.com/a/wIJmX1r via vk .com/wall-75257834_186806?z=photo-75257834_457281443%2Fwall-75257834_186915
Little problem though, what IS that RusPanorama? because there is “information agency Panorama” that is Russian clone of The Onion.
Another problem reportedly is that the same body at the same junction lies along the road, when one car rides, but suddenly lies orthogonally for the next car.
https://aftershock.news/?q=node/1090545

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 11:39 utc | 282

james | Apr 3 2022 20:58 utc | 99
Emily Dickinson | Apr 3 2022 21:40 utc | 123
Don Bacon | Apr 4 2022 3:40 utc | 200
“Russia has requested immediate UN Security Council meeting regarding Bucha. Can’t confirm.”
Its on Tass and the April 4 – 5:37 post mentions “for the second time”
Russia to demand convening UN SC session over Bucha provocation again
According to Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, the current UN SC president, Britain, once again refused to give consent to holding a Security Council meeting on Bucha
MOSCOW, April 4. /TASS/. Russia on Monday will demand again the UN Security Council meet in session to discuss the Ukrainian military’s provocation in Bucha, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on her Telegram channel.
“Yesterday, the current UN SC president, Britain, acting in accordance with its worst traditions, once again refused to give consent to holding a Security Council meeting on Bucha. Today, Russia will demand once again the UN Security Council meet in session to discuss criminal provocations by the Ukrainian military and radicals in that city,” Zakharova said.
The Russian Defense Ministry on April 3 dismissed the Kiev regime’s charges its forces had allegedly killed civilians in the community of Bucha, the Kiev Region. The ministry recalled that Russian forces left Bucha on March 30 while faked evidence of alleged killings was presented four days later, when Ukrainian security service SBU agents arrived in the locality. The Russian Defense Ministry also said that on March 31 Bucha’s Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk said in a video address that there were no Russian

Posted by: doesitreallymatter | Apr 4 2022 11:45 utc | 283

Western MSM and politicians firing a heavy barrage after the Bucha incident: Putin must be indicted, war criminal etc.
I dont think they care so much for the killed ppl filmed at Bucha – their cause of death has not been established yet, Western MSM and politicians dont care at all for “brown or dark skinned” victims eg in Yemen.
Western decision makers see what is at stake for them: Putin is at the center of the Russian power structure. They think that without Putin, Russia would be taken back from China and deliver cheap ressources again. The West cant attack Russia due to nukes, so the only thing they have is take out the man they think holds everything together. I expect more to come, way way more.
With Putin as Russian president, China has Eurasia in its bag and will take over the the US + Europe, since the West doesnt have access to the ressources and thus will fall behind.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 4 2022 11:48 utc | 284

The slander that the Red Army raped its way across eastern Europe has been a standard part of the anti-communist/russophobic lexicon since Moscow did not fall.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 3 2022 21:11 utc | 105
You’re absolutely right.

Posted by: olly45 | Apr 4 2022 11:51 utc | 285

Tom_12 | Apr 4 2022 10:36 utc | 269
“In one leaflet headlined “Kill” Ehrenburg incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human.
He was absolutely right.

Posted by: olly45 | Apr 4 2022 11:57 utc | 286

As has been pointed out, nobody would be walking around with such arm band while situation is so unstable. The arm bands were placed on these people before or after dead.
The Russians have no need to be extirminating people in this manner – particularly since it is proposed that they did this while leaving.
Additionally, what would be the rationale for killing people portrayed as supporters of Russia.
I think that it makes most sense that the Ukrainians killed these people, marked them as Russian supporters and posted to troll the leaving Russians. Then somebody decided to blame it on the Russians. Their minds are warped by their twisted self interest.
Its not even good propaganda.
As I understand. The Ukraine this is a long term project. Its too much to think that they will just walk away from it. Its about get the militaries of the west involved. Is this the reason for the NATO advisors in Mariupol?

Posted by: jared | Apr 4 2022 12:03 utc | 287

Just a quick comment about Bucha after watching some Canadian news coverage.
Surely the Russians will have thought of how to address this?? It was stated openly that “denazify” meant killing Nazis in Ukraine. It was also stated that foreign mercenaries would not be treated as POWs but just eliminated. Well, maybe the Ukro-Nazis have babushkas too, women and children who will mourn them, community members who will grieve over what was lost to them. Also, Russia will know how these Nazi troops act, and must have expected retaliation against civilians, that was the very rationale used to justify the Special Military Operation in the first place.
Also, I can’t see this as a false flag or as a Srebrenica massacre type of false flag. That was the entire NATO-verse, combined with some degree of apparent Russian cooperation, against Yugoslavia. This is an entirely different situation. I just don’t agree with virtually anything I’ve seen or read from anyone on this topic so far. Let’s see what today brings.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 4 2022 12:03 utc | 288

So much shit being talked in here especially by judeophobes who commit the classic act of racism by using one example of bad behaviour to paint an entire culture. It’s weird because plenty of Russian jews maintain that Stalin handed the NKVD security services over to Georgians who turned the purge into a pogrom. Lavrentiy Beria, a Georgian who served as Yezov’s (a Lithuanian) deputy until he took over and committed hideous crimes for which he was executed is the one zionists especially blame for the made up pogrom. Both sides (jews & judeophobes) are wrong but I cannot decide if it’s sadder than it is sick that this nasty nazi propaganda is being regurgitated for the nth time in 2022.
As for the Russians are rapists nonsense most were not any such thing in fact the only reason there are not far more reports of rape by the nazis against soviet citizens is that the nazis killed all their victims. Remember of the at least 27 million soviet citizens who were killed by the nazis ‘only’ three and a half million were soldiers. The others were ordinary humans; farmers, housewives, children. Yep the nazis raped children, then blew their heads off or chucked them all in the cellar, nailed down the trapdoor then set fire to the house.
Whatever Russian soldiers did was nothing like that. Lets not be forgetting the hundreds of Iraqi women raped by amerikan soldiers if we’re gonna get into this properly.
One of the primary reasons for not having wars is that rape is an inevitable outcome. Some blokes get a domination thing, others cannot control a primal urge that death = sex. From the year dot killing causes an instinctive need to procreate. Most control it, those who abhor rape would be smart to abhor war more.
usuk used the stories of rape to fire up their cold war agenda. They had just spent 4 years telling the citizens the Soviet Union were a good mob, then Churchill gets arseholed in an election straight afterwards & was replaced by an alleged socialist government (if only), the richfellas freaked out, the lies about russian rapists hve been exaggerated ever since. German women had sex with Russian soldiers for all types of reasons.
Unlike when the nazis were in Russia very view if any, of the women who had sex with soviet men were butchered by them. Read up on the stories about what Bonaparte’s ‘grand armee’ got up to when they invaded Russia, they didn’t just rape the locals, some of them ate them because there was no food to eat.
All sorts of lies about the average russian grunt are being put out right now and these perennial red army stories are the groundwork USuk is laying down for more lies.
I don’t trust the russian leadership but that is a long way from blaming ordinary Russian soldiers for some amerikan propagandist’s lies about a bunch of ordinary humans.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 4 2022 12:07 utc | 289

Well to get the numbers we can be sure that they were the dirt poor peasants who probably couldn’t even read a newspaper or much less buy it.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 4 2022 10:36 utc | 269
This sentence alone nullifes trust to everything else said in that spin.
1. So, what are the numbers then, as we supposedly “got to them” now ?
2. Yes, they could, if that matters. Fighting illiteracy (ликбез) was so vast post-1917 problem that it created a new, if unofficial, word in the language. Something like “101” is in American English.
My own great grand mother, whose childhood fell between WW1 and WW2, could barely write. She slowly scribbled simplified printed glyphs, like those seen on toy ABC cubes. But she could. And she could read.
3. Soldiers are required to read Field Code. Which means even if they somehow were illiterate whe nconsriptied – they would be taught to read.
4. Actually newspapers were rather popular with peasants. It was the cheapest paper one could get. You could use them as toilet paper (it was so even into 1980-s), to make filter-less cigarettes (папироса) out of tobacco held in bags (кисет), and to make a cone for every small things sold in shops (nails, seeds, anything).
A stereotypical 1937 horror story is about people using a newspaper as a one-time disposable canvas for some arts (like fixing shoes) or cuisine (like cutting raw/brined/slted fish), but failing to notice there was some communist top functioneer photo and then accused of public humiliation of power. True or not, but being stereotypical required being plausible, thus witnesses how acvailable newspapers were.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 12:10 utc | 290

Norwegian | Apr 4 2022 10:43 utc | 271
Ukrainian Police Claimed ‘Clearing Op’ in Bucha a Day Before Videos of Dead Bodies Emerged”
Make a note about the text underlined in blue at the borrom of the photo. Apparently, anyone without the “blue” armband (or with white to signal “civilians”?) could be shot on sight.
https://twitter.com/MichaKobs/status/1510903815737942018/photo/1
Time line.
*30 March: Russians left.
*31 March: the Mayor was seen celebrating “the happiest day of his life”. (No bodies mentioned)
*1 April: (Did the kiev troops arrive this day?) First photos possibly dated from here filmed from a civilian car according to another source?
*2 April: “official” beginning of “clearing” operation
*3 April: The Photos of the massacre start to be published.
I think we have the real perpetrators. SAFARI.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 4 2022 12:19 utc | 291

Tom_12 | Apr 4 2022 10:36 utc | 269
“In one leaflet headlined “Kill” Ehrenburg incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human.
He was absolutely right.
Posted by: olly45 | Apr 4 2022 11:57 utc | 285
This is unacceptable ethnic-targeted bloodthirst.
It could be passable if it targeted nazis – nazism is an ideology and therefore not intrinsic – nazis can, hypothetically, stop being nazis.
Germans can’t really stop being german, so this is in practice tantamount to claiming that they intrinsically deserve inhumane treatment through no fault of their own.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 4 2022 12:20 utc | 292

“In one leaflet headlined “Kill” Ehrenburg incited Soviet soldiers to treat Germans as sub-human.
He was absolutely right.
Posted by: olly45 | Apr 4 2022 11:57 utc | 285
Soviet propaganda then had a hard task to make Soviet soldiers kill enemies without any hesitation nand remorse. Because that is what war is about.
And because “international workers – our brothers” propaganda was as contagious probably as BLM is today and it lasted for decades, 1917-1941. Now they had in few weeks de-program what they programmed for years and years. It required an immediate, if ugly, anti-dote.
Compare Simonov’s rhymes “Kill him!”
https://ruverses.com/konstantin-simonov/kill-him/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1uX_B_Ow7s
Call to violence? Sure. Call to de-humanize, to consider “subhuman”? No. The opposite, it is specially stressed that the enemy has his own mother that would cry now, but that is had to be done regardless.
Erenburg’s rhymes “Kill!” does not mention Germans at all, just authorizes to shoot without hesitation.
https://www.culture.ru/poems/29704/ubei
The damned article is discussed at https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=9115
And now there is this interesting paradox.
There was ONE propaganda piece form USSR that made the claim “Germans are not human beings”. Even this is ambiguous between “do not treat them as humans” and “do not hope they will treat you or your peers as humans”.
But this single piece is made famous and is repeated again and again. Why? Exactly because it is the only one.
However for Germany there were countless of claims that slavs are not humans – and they are not made celebrities. Because there are so many they are “business as usual”.
An i would not even mention Morgenthaw plan, from the most moral nation ever.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 12:28 utc | 293

Arioch | Apr 4 2022 12:10 utc | 289
I think the Bible was considered better for rolling cigarettes as the paper was thinner. (PNG)

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 4 2022 12:32 utc | 294

Germans can’t really stop being german, so this is in practice tantamount to claiming that they intrinsically deserve inhumane treatment through no fault of their own.
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 4 2022 12:20 utc | 291
It is similar to self defense problem. Are you allowed to kill your enemy? Christianity foundations seems to say you are not, you should “give another cheek” and “love thy enemy” as he kills you and your family. No violence is allowed.
More pragmatic approaches seems to allow violence conditionally. Answering violence for violence. In some conditions, to some degree. And normal judges would not expect someone in a heat of the deadly fight to be as reasoned as some other person enjoying a luxury resort.
Where could Soviet soldiers in 1942 summer met “German soldiers” to treat them as subhumans and commit other atrocities? Was it Berlin, was it Paris, was it Warsaw?
Efficiently those were invaders who were, once, dehumanized.
That propaganda line was immediately cut short and reverted later, as the situation was changing.
USA politicians though call Russians subhumans without a single Russian soldier besieging DC yet.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 12:38 utc | 295

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 4 2022 12:32 utc | 293
Few could afford having the bible in USSR, and of those who did – few were so resourceful as to use it for cigarette paper. Just like in then USA not everyone could have a $100 banknote, and of those who had few would make a cigarette of it. Definitely not the lowest peasants.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 12:41 utc | 296

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 11:30 utc | 279
Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 4 2022 12:19 utc | 290
The problem is that there appears to be a video from April 1st. https://twitter.com/ViktoriiaUAH/status/1509985789404459011
No idea if this video can be verified as in Bucha.
I am not suggesting the Russian military executed a bunch of civilians and left them on the street, on purpose, to try to get NATO involved in the war, obviously. But I am suggesting that if this video really is in Bucha, and really does date from April 1, then the explanation has to account for the placement of these bodies by that date.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 4 2022 12:43 utc | 297

@ 294 Arioch writes “And normal judges would not expect someone in a heat of the deadly fight to be as reasoned as some other person enjoying a luxury resort.”
This is a very important point, I think. With all this talk of precision-strikes, stand-off weapons, unmanned drones, artificial intelligence, humanitarian corridors and so on, it’s easy to lose sight of the reality of war. Everyone should be reminded why genuine military professionals do everything possible to avoid combat.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 4 2022 12:44 utc | 298

It was stated openly that “denazify” meant killing Nazis in Ukraine.
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 4 2022 12:03 utc | 287
I wonder where you took it from.
Because what that slogan specifically means in any actionable definition is still a matter of hot debate in Russia.
There is no clarity for what i know.
Probably there won’t be, and the term would be retroactively defined after the operation ends.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 4 2022 12:45 utc | 299

Arioch, I can’t pinpoint a source and I may be wrong. But it seemed clear that the Special Military Operation was going to result in tens of thousands of dead Ukrainian forces. Because they were Nazis and a threat to Russia. So, surely Russia had some plan for how to respond to this?

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 4 2022 12:51 utc | 300