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April 11, 2022
The Reasons For And Dangers Behind The War In Ukraine

The war in the Ukraine continues but the propaganda hysteria around it seems to have calmed down a bit as reality is setting in.

This gives room from more sane voices to be heard by the public. I will start with the Russian ones.

The Russian ambassador to the U.S., Anatoly Antonov, was interviewed by Newsweek. He explained Russia's political and judicial reasoning behind the war:

"The special operation in Ukraine is the result of the unwillingness of the Kiev regime to stop the genocide of Russians by fulfilling its obligations under the international commitments," Antonov told Newsweek. "The desire of the NATO member states to use the territory of a neighboring state to establish a foothold in the struggle against Russia is also obvious."

To Russia, Antonov said that the [Maidan] revolution was a "bloody coup d'état instigated by the West" in which "ultranationalist ideas came to power in Kiev." He said that policies viewed by Moscow as hostile such as the removal of Russian as a national language and the rehabilitation of nationalist Ukrainian figures such as Stepan Bandera, who collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II, had "taken root in Ukraine under external administration."

Antonov argued that it was the "nationalist frenzy and revanchist sentiments of the Kiev regime" that resulted in the effective death of the Minsk deals as Ukraine chose "the path of rapid militarization" with help from abroad.

"The NATO member countries have commenced a military exploration of Ukraine," Antonov said. "It was flooded with Western weaponry while President Vladimir Zelensky announced Kiev's plans to acquire nuclear weapons which would threaten not only neighboring countries, but also the entire world."

"In this context, Russia had no other choice but to recognize the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics," Antonov said. "Then, in accordance with Chapter VII, Article 51 of the U.N. Charter, with the authorization of the Federation Council of Russia and in execution of the Treaties of Friendship and Mutual Assistance with the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin made a decision to begin a special military operation."

"Its aim is to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine in order to reduce military threats posed by the Western states that are trying to use the fraternal Ukrainian people in the struggle against the Russians," he added.

Sergey Karaganov is a high level Russian political scientist and commentator who is also a presidential advisor in Moscow. He was interviewed (in English) by the Italian Corriere Della Sera

Sergey Karaganov: «We are at war with the West. The European security order is illegitimate»

An excerpt:

How can an attack be justified on such grounds?

«For 25 years people like myself have said that NATO expansion would lead to war. Putin said several times that if it came to Ukraine becoming a member of NATO, there would be no Ukraine anymore. In Bucharest in 2008 there was a plan of quick accession of Ukraine and Georgia to NATO. It was blocked by the efforts of Germany and France, but since that time Ukraine has been integrated into NATO. It was pumped up by weaponry and its troops were trained by NATO, their army getting stronger and stronger day by day. In addition we saw a very rapid increase of neo-Nazi sentiment especially among the military, the society and the ruling elite. It was clear that Ukraine had become something like Germany around 1936-1937. The war was inevitable, they were a spearhead of NATO. We made the very hard decision to strike first, before the threat becomes deadlier».

I recommend to read the whole Karaganov interview to better understand the Russian thinking.

"It was clear that Ukraine had become something like Germany around 1936-1937," said Karaganov. The 'western' public has difficulties to understand that. But it is the prevailing Russian view and when analyzing the developments in the Ukraine over the last years with Russian history in mind one can easily come to the same conclusion.

It is also what the Canadian Russia expert Patrick Armstrong had mentioned as the most important item after he had read Putin's speeches at the start of the war:

Had I been at home I would have read Putin’s speech earlier and understood sooner. What he is talking about is what the Soviet Union tried to do from 1933 onwards: namely to stop Hitler before he got started. This time Russia is able to do it by itself. In other words, Putin feels that he is making a pre-emptive attack to stop June 1941. This is very serious indeed and indicates that the Russians are going to keep going until they feel that they can safely stop.

The Russian view is not really that far fetched.

Here is a recent news agency video of officials of the Ukrainian Security Service SBU in front of a destroyed house seemingly praying with a priest for the deceased.


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Note the fascist Right Sector patch the official carries on his arm and back. The SBU has become a kind of Gestapo tasked with eliminating opposition elements in Ukraine. The UN's OHCHR, the OSCE, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International have all reported about the SBU's many crimes.

There is also an 'SS Galizien' patch on the officers back which refers to the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) which fought with Nazi-Germany against the Soviet Union. Like many other SS division the 1st Galician was involved in serious war-crimes but later mostly whitewashed. After the war many of its surviving officers fled to Canada and to the United States.

The offspring of those officers and other immigrants from the Ukraine played a noticeable role in lobbying for the war.

That has been successful as the U.S. had chosen to support extreme elements in Ukraine in opposition to peace. This has, as Aaron Maté writes, moved president Zelensky from an election campaign position of finding peace with Russia to becoming a war maniac:

On a warm October day in 2019, the eminent Russia studies professor Stephen F. Cohen and I sat down in Manhattan for what would be our last in-person interview (Cohen passed away in September 2020 at the age of 81).

"Zelensky ran as a peace candidate," Cohen explained. "He won an enormous mandate to make peace. So, that means he has to negotiate with Vladimir Putin." But there was a major obstacle. Ukrainian fascists, Cohen warned, "have said that they will remove and kill Zelensky if he continues along this line of negotiating with Putin… His life is being threatened literally by a quasi-fascist movement in Ukraine."

Peace could only come, Cohen stressed, on one condition. "[Zelensky] can’t go forward with full peace negotiations with Russia, with Putin, unless America has his back," he said. "Maybe that won’t be enough, but unless the White House encourages this diplomacy, Zelensky has no chance of negotiating an end to the war. So the stakes are enormously high."

Although Trump's impeachment failed to remove him from office, it succeeded in cementing the proxy war aims of its chief proponents: rather than support Zelensky's peace mandate, Ukraine would instead be used to "fight Russia over there."

I had earlier quoted an interview with Dmytro Yarosh, then the leader of the fascist Right Sector, who just a week after Zelenski had become president threatened him with death should he try to make peace with the eastern Ukrainian rebels. Yarosh later became an advisor to the chief general staff of the Ukrainian military. He is the main person behind the ongoing nazification of the Ukrainian military.

As ambassador Antonov has said the war in Ukraine is not only about the Ukraine.

Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law at Princeton University, is correctly pointing out the two levels of the war we see:

It is not that the empathy for Ukraine or support for Zelensky’s national resistance is misplaced, but that it has the appearance of being geopolitically orchestrated and manipulated in ways that other desperate national situations were not, and thus gives rise to suspicions about other, darker motives.

This is worrisome because these magnified concerns have acted as a principal way that the NATO West has gone out of its way to make the Ukrainian War about more than Ukraine. The wider war is best understood as occurring on two levels: a traditional war between the invading forces of Russia and the resisting forces of Ukraine as intertwined with an encompassing geopolitical war between the US and Russia. It is the prosecution of this latter war that presents the more profound danger to world peace, a danger that has been largely obscured or assessed as a mere extension of the Russia/Ukraine confrontation.

If this two-level perception is correctly analyzed in its appreciation of the different actors with contradictory priorities, then it becomes crucial to understand that in the geopolitical war the US is the aggressor as much as in the traditional war on the ground Russia is the aggressor.

Falk concurs with professor John Mearsheimer who fears that the larger U.S. Russia conflict hidden behind the war in Ukraine may lead to widening of the conflict into a potential nuclear war.

Summarizing Mearsheimer's recent talk with Katrina vanden Heuvel and ambassador James Matlock, the former CIA analyst Ray McGovern writes:

Speaking at an April 7 webinar, Mearsheimer was, true to form, "offensively realistic". He explained: (1) the root cause lies in the April 2008 NATO summit Declaration that Ukraine (and Georgia) "will become members of NATO"; and (2) that Russia sees this as an "existential threat" and therefore "must win" this one.

For President Joe Biden and the Democrats, even though Ukraine poses zero strategic threat to the U.S., a Russian "win" would be, politically, a "devastating defeat", says Mearsheimer. In that sense, the conflict is a "must-win" for the US as well. Underscoring the obvious, he noted it is impossible for both sides to "win" – at least not in current circumstances.

Noting that US academics and policy makers don’t believe NATO’s designs on Ukraine represent an existential threat to Russia, Mearsheimer is as blunt as his courteous mien permits. "What people in Washington believe is irrelevant. What matters is what Russia believes." He rejects the "mainstream" view that Putin’s Russia is motivated by expansionist aims, and asks the savants in Washington to put concrete evidence behind their claims. Moreover, "There is no evidence in what Putin has said that he wants to make Ukraine part of Russia," Mearsheimer adds.

Towards the end of a talk with Gonzalo Lira former Marine officer and UN Inspector Scott Ritter disputes the potential for escalation. The Pentagon, he says, knows the real situation on the ground and that the Ukrainian army will lose the war. Neither NATO, nor the U.S. nor single countries like Poland have their forces configured in a way that would allow them to successfully wage war against Russia. They would need more time to get ready than Russia will need to win the war in Ukraine.

Ritter predicts that the Pentagon will overrule any escalation the Ukraine warmongers in the State Department and National Security Council may plan and that those responsible for the current mess, Victoria Nuland, Anthony Blinken and Jake Sullivan, will get silenced or removed after the midterms.

I hope he is right.

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news report
Four days after joining the New Hampshire Republican primary, U.S. Senate hopeful and bitcoin millionaire Bruce Fenton compared the widespread adoration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to the reaction to Osama bin Laden, warning that bin Laden was also once seen as a “hero.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 12 2022 2:15 utc | 201

Posted by: james | Apr 11 2022 16:45 utc | 1
Special thanks to you, james, for posting bevin’s comment. I’ve returned to it several times as it is so well written – especially including the final statement:

“…Sadly the US has made a mockery of International Law and Justice for many years. It has discredited the peaceful anhd diplomatic solution of international problems.
This is a crime far worse than a single act of aggression. It amounts to a restoration of barbarism in international affairs.”

Very appropriate for this comment to be first after b’s. Thanks also to bevin.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 12 2022 2:16 utc | 202

Cadence Calls | Apr 12 2022 1:49 utc | 191
zelensky is a Kolomoisky protege. jews vs nazi’s think Soros in his younger days. Kolomoisky owns zelensky, finances the nazi volunteer battalions and was involved in MH17.
Ah yes the threat… from co workers? He is an actor, a well made ventriloquist puppet. that shit about him winning on a mandate for peace…CIA are no doubt good at what they do and wrote up suitable script for the actor to follow.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 2:17 utc | 203

juliania | Apr 12 2022 2:16 utc | 197
Until your comment that is something I simply took for granted but it certainly goes to the heart of what is occurring today, is perhaps well known outside the US west but where ever possible needs to be spread within the so called west.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 2:26 utc | 204

Posted by: Boo | Apr 11 2022 16:55 utc | 7

Unfortunately for you, the news coming from Donbass are not good for the ukies. This is what is left of blockpost 29 after few days of bombing barages:
Telegram footage of dead Nazis.
Thanks for that, Boo. I do so love seeing photographic proof of dead Nazis.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 12 2022 2:26 utc | 205

librul 19- New NAto force on Eastern edge-
I would worry so much about that- I Command General giving testifying to US congress when asked the same said- not exactly- Well first we have to be invited/ then the country would have to spend roughly $20 billion dollars to setup bases for a ‘Corps’ ( men strength 20,00- to 0,000 ) and maybe 3 billion annually to keep the ‘Corps level’ operational. Now the US ‘seems’ to have a bottomless pit of dollars- However trouble in finance is close to breaking out in Wall Street/ banking Currency worlds,so this is a illusion of financial strength. So if you think one of the Baltic states would fund this, you have to be on drugs. As when Pres Trump views on Europe was they have to pay their own way. So it’s just posturing by NATO that a effective , say, Corps level force could be constituted close to Russia.

Posted by: col from OZ | Apr 12 2022 2:31 utc | 206

As I stated earlier, since U.S. intelligence is fixated on cracking the code to Putin’s thinking, and they haven’t been successful yet, they’re resorting to projection and making things up like: Putin is going to mess with the Midterms and the Presidential election cuz he’s desperate and angry, so he’ll attack voting machines cuz now that he’s got nothing left to lose he has a higher risk tolerance. I kid you not; they’re already sowing this non-intel intelligence about an election threat by Putin.

The United States believes Russian President Vladimir Putin may be willing to take more aggressive action against the US, including dialing up his attempts to interfere with American elections in response to its support for Ukraine, according to four sources familiar with recent US intelligence assessments.
That could include direct attacks on US election infrastructure, among a broad range of options, the sources said.
There is no evidence that Putin has made a decision to interfere in upcoming elections or that he has preferred candidates, the sources said.
Putin more willing to take risks
The intelligence community has made understanding Putin’s mindset a priority since early in the invasion, sources familiar with internal deliberations told CNN. Raw assessments have pointed to his increasingly unpredictable behavior, and US officials believe Putin is more willing to consider taking risks due to his anger over Russia’s failures in Ukraine — something his advisers, who officials say have not been telling him the full truth, did not prepare him for.
The Associated Press reported on Saturday that Putin may use US support for Ukraine as a pretext to interfere in US elections.

What? The AP too?
I actually saw this as Breaking News on CNN’s news banner earlier and there was discussion on it.
This is just one example of why Andrei Martyanov refers to the mainstream as media whores and I second this opinion.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2022 2:49 utc | 207

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 11 2022 20:58 utc | 86
The Finnish membership in Nato is certain, after the Finnish government dropped the promised referendum .
In this feverish atmosphere, the referendum could give the same result.
Only thing to prevent this, would be Russia showing, that Nato’s article 5 is useless.
This couldt be done with the destruction of Romanian missile base.

Posted by: ka | Apr 12 2022 2:49 utc | 208

@Posted by: Jen | Apr 12 2022 1:20 utc | 183
Wow, Mark Chapman seems to have done well for himself since killing John Lennon! I couldn’t resist ….
Thanks for your comments.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 12 2022 2:55 utc | 209

the unipolar world = the weaponization of wahhabism and fascism. Islamic extremists for Russia China Afghanistan MENA. Nazi’s for eastern Europe.
The anglosphere – state sponsors of terrorism.
james, I’m a bit of a knuckle dragger when it comes to music. I liked ACDC’s ‘Its a long way to the top’ and ‘Highway to hell’ when I was flying. I did not expect to survive that.
Now looking at the geopolitical situation, I like Eve of destruction’ but also sonny and cher’s ‘the beat goes on’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_38SWIIKITE (lyrics need changing but still I think accurate for the so called west)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS3O5zg290k The beat goes on. Human nature unchanged. At least in the west. The east – open to change that eliminates warfare while preserving cultures. There was something about constant revolution but current day east seems to look at constant evolution.
Other than a disintegrating empire there are no historical precedents to what is occurring now.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 2:59 utc | 210

An excellent take on the situation with the China-Solomon Islands security deal from Brian Berletic and a guest, really showing the difference between US/Australian/Western approaches and Chinese approaches. No wonder the Chinese keep winning and all the West can do is try to create chaos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAwVg7ME4mA

Posted by: Roger | Apr 12 2022 3:09 utc | 211

#86 “Sweden and Finland joining will lead to a huge catastrophe, but I also think cooler heads in both countries will prevail”
The Finnish membership in Nato is certain, after the Finnish government dropped the referendum, which was promised always, since the talk about it started in 1991.
In this feverish atmosphere, also the referendum could give the same result.
The only thing to prevent this, would be Russia showing, that Nato’s article 5 is useless.
This could be done for example with the destruction of Romanian missile base.

Posted by: ka | Apr 12 2022 3:14 utc | 212

ka | Apr 12 2022 3:14 utc | 206
Napoleon tried it, Hitler tried it, Montgomery recommended against it… in the end the Russian flag will fly above the US Reichstag.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 3:22 utc | 213

Roger | Apr 12 2022 3:09 utc | 205
I see US have sent a hitman to Solomon islands. Its a wait and watch on that one.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 3:29 utc | 214

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 11 2022 17:02 utc | 9

The same western Jewish banking system that put their weight behind the allies AGAINST the Germans are the same people propping up the Ukes against the Russians.
The comparison between Ukraine and 1938 Germany is the one thing that continues to make me scratch my head over this whole thing.
But, when you realize the term Nazi means very little nowadays, or that its meaning has been dilluted by mass appropriation by every group the world over who needs a boogeyman term to conjure up sympathy, it becomes understandable that the term Nazi is the well in which every peoples in the world can scream into.

My, my, my: that’s a mighty Nazi-sounding thing to say, there, because it sounds an awful lot like you’re trying to promote that old wive’s tale about how the Rothschilds and their Jewish allies control the world financial system and orchestrate all global conflicts.
Anyone who knows anything about finance knows that while the current global Western financial system does contain an outsized Jewish membership up at the top, the vast (vast!) majority of global financiers are of blue-blood UK Norman, US-WASP, and French (and increasingly German) descent.
In Asia, of course, they’re predominantly Chinese, because the Chinese have been doing banking five to eight times longer than the West has been–which means you will likely (provided we live long enough) soon be switching back to the old “Yellow Peril” nonsense you sorts favored back in the 1800s.

We can’t have our governments continue to obfuscate and lie to us in this regard. It is obscurantinism and it is a telltale sign of a global cabal of elites who are doing the devil’s work.

While I’ll agree with you that there is a global cabal of elites, your implication that it’s strictly a group of Jews up there is asinine and utterly ahistorical. The oligarchs running the world’s affairs, these days, are mainly North Americans (almost all of whose ancestors emigrated there from greater Europe), British (again, mostly Normans), and Franco-Prussian (are you aware of which country kicked off the dismantling and partition of Yugoslavia? Here’s a hint: while the US did participate, it was a relative latecomer to that particular set of atrocities). Jews remain a relatively small and minor player, among that group. China, Russia, Iran, India, Indonesia, and Japan all have more power to influence world affairs than “Jewish bankers” (more properly: Israelis/Zionists, because not all Jews affirm those ideologies) do.
Now, regarding Ukronazis: if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and talks like a duck, then it most certainly is a duck. The Ukronazis fly literal Nazi flags, wear Nazi insignia, build monuments to and name streets after mass-murdering Nazis, and have made it perfectly clear that they want to wipe out all use of the Russian language, its associated symbols and rituals, and any vestiges of Russian culture within the areas these Galician Nazis are able to control by ethnically cleansing the region of all actual people who are ethnically Russian.
Add to all of that the fact that these people have been doing these things going all the way back to WWII and yes, that makes them Nazis. Not “neo-Nazis,” but literal unreformed, shameless, WWII-era Nazis.
I’m just wondering, Nemesis: have you ever heard of Kievan Rus’? The Cossacks? If you have, then you’ll know that the Galician language dominating the greater Ukraine region is a relatively (~100 years?) recent phenomenon–it was formally banned in most of what today calls itself “Ukraine” for a couple of hundred years prior to that.
So what we have here are a group of upstart Nazis who, going all the way back to the end of WWII, have been nourished, trained, and supplied by the US and the UK (the Norman Lordships do viscerally hate the Russians–and Slavs in general, to be frank)–not “Jewish bankers”, which is just a fucking stupid thing to assert–as a weapon to be used to limit first Soviet and now Russian economic development and cultural renaissance.
“Jews” don’t really much enter into it except as bit players invited in by the CIA or MI-6 to perform minor roles. Moreover, if “Jewish Bankers” really were as powerful as you say they are, then why is Ukraine’s economy in such a shambles? Why did it deteriorate so precipitously the moment the US/uk pulled off that 2014 coup?

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 12 2022 3:31 utc | 215

ka@206
The Finnish politicians must be mad. Or US educated. (The difference is imperceptible.)

Posted by: bevin | Apr 12 2022 3:33 utc | 216

#207 “Napoleon tried it, Hitler tried it, Montgomery recommended against it… in the end the Russian flag will fly above the US Reichstag.”
Finland tried it too, and was the integral part of killing over 1 million civilians in Leningrad.
I know, I’m Finnish!

Posted by: ka | Apr 12 2022 3:34 utc | 217

@ 197
diplomacy: the profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations, typically by a country’s representatives abroad.
Has there been anyone in Washington who understands this? Who can stop insulting and sanctioning other governments?
No, instead we’ve had Hillary, and Pompeo, and Blinken, and Jake the Snake.
…and look at the State Dept motto:
“To protect and promote U.S. security, prosperity, and democratic[sic] values and shape an international environment in which all Americans can thrive.”
It’s all about ME with no consideration of YOU. That’s not managing relations.
Suppose other countries were this way? What a world it would be.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 12 2022 3:39 utc | 218

Pacifica Advocate@209
Thanks for that lengthy, eloquent and historically accurate statement.
It is lamentable, without being intolerable, that so many people have been misled into simplistic antisemitic views.
They are not to blame, however: socialists instead of concentrating on political education have wasted enormous amounts of energy and organisational work on sectarian infighting. The result has been a clear run for right wing propaganda because the ‘left’ is too busy committing suicide to defend the world view that it inherited.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 12 2022 3:43 utc | 219

Posted by: Roger | Apr 12 2022 3:09 utc | 205
Watch Brian everyday and read comments… but never once comments in YouTube..he was an ex-marine married, now living in Thailand… excellent….well informed geopolitics of the east – a pro Chinese and Russian.. maybe Gonzalo Lira should interview him…
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheNewAtlas/videos

Posted by: JC | Apr 12 2022 3:47 utc | 220

Lex #192

Lavrov doesn’t do slip of the tongue. …. Or, someone finally pointed out that the emperor has no clothes.

I wish Lavrov all the best in this moment of liberation. Consider his joy – rarely does a world leading diplomat of his class ever get to tell the enemy nation that they are a turd. Especially Lavrov, presenting such a dour front most of the time and now he can call the west for what they are.
Its enough to make a Russian want to dance.
At this rate of success the conga line would encircle the globe and include most of its people.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2022 3:48 utc | 221

Pacifica Advocate | Apr 12 2022 3:31 utc | 209
The mindfuck here for those that worship holocaust is the nazi volunteer battalions in Ukraine are often financed by jewish oligarchs. Soros pimped for the nazi’s
woke bullshit pervades. judaism is not far distant to wahhabism. each individual must be taken on their merits.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 3:49 utc | 222

ka@211
What you refer to is also true of the three Baltic states. And a matter for deep national contemplation, which makes the current insane desire to leap onto the sinking ship of US Imperialism all the more astonishing.
“Roll up, roll up for the Mystery Tour”- the Owl of Minerva’s last flight.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 12 2022 3:50 utc | 223

@ Circe 202
Not to worry, the CIA has Putin all figured out.

Speaking to the House Intelligence Committee last month, intelligence leaders said Russian President Vladimir Putin believed he could take the capital in the first two days. Over a month into the war, Russian forces retreated into eastern Ukraine after failing to advance inside the city.
“He was confident that he had modernized his military and they were capable of quick, decisive victory at minimum cost. He’s been proven wrong on every count,” CIA director William Burns said at the March hearing. . .here

We’ll get an update from Burns after General Dvornikov takes him to school in Donbass, as he did in Syria.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 12 2022 3:53 utc | 224

Don Bacon | Apr 12 2022 3:53 utc | 218
The school of hard knocks.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 3:58 utc | 225

@Posted by: JC | Apr 12 2022 3:47 utc | 214
They would make a great pairing. To get a relatively unbiased picture of China and Asia I watch Brian, as well as Cyrus Jansen and Daniel Dumbrill. Numuves also posts some interesting stuff.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 12 2022 4:06 utc | 226

RE: Corriere Della Sera interview
That dumb Italian journalist trots out the same tired old line that Ukraine has no nazi problem because Zelensky. It’s like saying that the US has been cured of racism because Obama, a black man, was president. Yeah sure, racism vanished from the land of the free the minute Obama was elected. Trump? George Floyd? The murdered Chinese and Korean women? That’s just minor details. It’s getting better all the time in the best of worlds.
I think it was Cornel West who said that Obama was a black mascot for Wall Street. In the same way, Zelensky is a Jewish mascot for the Ukronazis.

Posted by: Robert Macaire | Apr 12 2022 4:19 utc | 227

Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 11 2022 21:42 utc | 101
There is little to nothing out there. Here are a few things you might use to hit the right search terms
https://www.publicdiplomacy.su/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Extremism-in-Ukraine.pdf
https://ukraineaftermaidan.wordpress.com/russophobia-ultra-nationalism/
https://pravfond.ru/upload/iblock/28d/28d32e525a66c738dc68c95c00ccd7cf.pdf?ysclid=l1vmnhjz1y
I see that Ukraine is considering passing a law that all military aged men must return or face severe punishment. I see the NATO countries using this as an opportunity to clear the shelves of excess population so to speak.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 12 2022 4:34 utc | 228

@209 Pacifica
You make it sound as if the Nazism of the NSDAP was the first-run of anti-Jewish sentiment in history.
It is not. Anyone who has investigated the issue knows that Jews get thrown out of most countries eventually. Even Stalin purged them.
Secondly, for you to insist that the torching of Yugoslovia was about anything other than squeezing Russia by expanding full spectrum dominance, that is silly. And why oh why would the west still have it in with Russia? Is it because they are a resurgent Christian Nation hellbent on restoring the Tsarist Christian Empire? You bet your ass it is? And why of why would the Christian West have it in for a Christian Russia?
How about I give YOU a hint, Pacifica? On second thought, you have probably figured out who I am referring to.
Stalin purged them. They escaped to the west and have had it in for Russia ever since.

Here is another question for the bar? Why is it ok for countries in Europe to have political parties with the name such as “Such and such-Christian Party?”
Why can’t we have one such party in the U.S.? Then we can openly state that we hate Jewish Banking because of its cancerous usury and innate drive to consolidation of power.
But here in the states we have been conditioned to stare with mouths agape at any notion of the JQ.
Morally repellant to be so dim if you ask me.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 12 2022 4:36 utc | 229

@ karlof1 with the Lavrov quote about the Ukraine activity being part of ending the bankers wars…thanks
You know I have been banging that drum for a while. What continues to amaze and confound me is the lack of direct calling out of the global private finance cult by China and now Russia has a perfect reason to speak about the curtain and those behind it.
It is one thing to condemn and prosecute the West for the things it does but another still to address the social structure problem that supports aggressive and anti-humanistic behavior in the first place.
Will the shit show be stopped or ended?
I think that the exposure and prosecution of those empire tools trapped in Azovstal would go a long way toward exposing the shit show for the Might-Makes-Right barbarism tool it is for the God of Mammon cult.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 12 2022 4:50 utc | 230

Martina @ 124
Ukraine is another step on the long road of eliminating Russia allies, isolating Russia, and encircling Russia. The shared culture makes it much more difficult. NATO will not relent no matter how much Ukraine shrinks.
It will continue to run color revolutions at Belarus until it is smashed or it folds into their camp. It has only been going on since the fall of the Soviet Union. The list of countries are endless. The moves of the West are methodical and relentless.
Whatever rump part of Ukraine is left it would be in the interest of Russia to keep it a demilitarized poverty stricken basket case and promote the territories it supports. Word will get out. Modern communications works both ways.
As one poster noted. NATO’s interest is in supplying weapons, the hell with economic support. They are already looking at beefing up rail systems in Eastern Europe. They know running the Black Sea is not going to happen.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 12 2022 4:52 utc | 231

NemesisCalling | Apr 12 2022 4:36 utc | 223

And why oh why would the west still have it in with Russia? Is it because they are a resurgent Christian Nation hellbent on restoring the Tsarist Christian Empire? You bet your ass it is? And why of why would the Christian West have it in for a Christian Russia?

Because they’re the wrong type of Christians? I know that sounds unlikely, but Europe has a long history of having violent clashes over religion – from the conflict between the Nicaeans and the Arians in the later Roman Empire, to the Crusades to the Protestant – Catholic wars.
Now, I think most of these conflicts were probably about other things – access to resources, competition between power blocks, and the like – but they were dressed up in religious colours, so two parties both being Christian isn’t quite the guarantor of peace it might be.

Posted by: Kukulkan | Apr 12 2022 5:02 utc | 232

@ 197 juliania – thanks… and @ 199 peter au as well.. thanks.
@ Pacifica Advocate | Apr 12 2022 3:31 utc | 209
thanks for your post… i learn something new every day around here..

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2022 5:05 utc | 233

Sergey Karaganov is a high level Russian political scientist and commentator who is also a presidential advisor in Moscow.

From the above it sounds that Karaganov is close to Putin. I would argue that is not correct.
I have run onto Karaganov’s texts before and something did not sound right to me so I did a little bit of research. Here are couple points about the guy:
Karaganov is in a Board of Governors of East-West Bridge (Trilateral Commission)
http://www.ewb.rs/bog1.aspx?id=210

Sergei Karaganov, head of the independent Council on Foreign and Defense Policy

The Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SWAP) is a non-governmental public association founded on February 25, 1992 in Moscow by a group of politicians, business association leaders, businessmen, public and state figures, representatives of the power ministries, military-industrial complex, science and mass media information.
Financial support for the Council’s activities is provided through sponsorship fees, grants, donations from individuals and non-governmental organizations.
https://interkomitet.com/about-the-committee/our-partners/council-on-foreign-and-defense-policy/
Karaganov is close to Prikhodko, Markov said, but not to the Kremlin as a whole. “Many [of the council’s] proposals aren’t accepted and some are even sneered at,” he said. The once mighty U.S.A. and Canada Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, headed by Sergei Rogov, has even less of a role in policy-making, Markov added
https://web.archive.org/web/20050426213350/http://www.eng.yabloko.ru/Publ/2002/papers/moscow-times-020402.html
Is seems that Karaganov served on the International Advisory Board of the (US) Council on Foreign Relations.
I would leave it to barflies to make conclusions by themselves

Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 12 2022 5:15 utc | 234

Some thoughts that may well be wrong. Phase one was a reconnaissance in force. A sounding out out. An opportunity for Ukraine to see the light. Phase two that is about to begin will be more like an impenetrable Greek phalanx moving forward.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 5:17 utc | 235

Posted by: S | Apr 11 2022 20:16 utc | 76

Thank you for the translation. I reposted it here on VK:

Discrimination of the Russian language is the Koshchey’s needle¹ of Ukrainian Nazism

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 12 2022 5:20 utc | 236

I haven’t had chance to read the comments on this post tonight so don’t know if this fits here or not or has been posted already, but I’m sure a number of people here watch Patrick Lancaster’s youtube videos where he tries to show the reality on or at the “contact line” in the lower Donbas. Lancaster is a ex-pat American U.S. Navy veteran who hooked up with the Russian gal in Donetsk and now has a young family. He has been reporting on the Donbas war since at least Dec 2016 but most of his videos are from the current,expanded conflict.
Anyway, Lancaster had sent his family away a few weeks back after a close by Ukie arty or rocket attack on Donetsk. Perhaps the wife has relatives between the southern Ukie-Rus border and Rostov-on-the-Don. On 11 April, a Tochka-U rocket landed a couple hundred meters from where Lancaster’s family was staying in a little rural Russian village. Luckily, it was out in a farm field. Lancaster doesn’t say his family was targeted in his video but it’s sure interesting that the Ukies land a rocket in this very rural place. I’m sure George Washington Zelinsky’s state security people watch Lancaster’s youtube channel and the borderlands are a “small” place, people know people who know people…
Of course the western MSM will never report it. They won’t even knowledge Patrick Lancaster exists and is doing the job they are supposed to be doing. I hope Patrick and his family survive this war…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qgRqYtuHC8

Posted by: DakotaRog | Apr 12 2022 5:30 utc | 237

A Russian Greek phalanx? total air cover from artillery, MLRS and whatever else the US Ukies lob at them. Concentrated force, concentrated drone sat recon, concentrated long range fire power.
A change of commanders for the Ukraine operation… Putin would have gone for the soft option first. Events have ruled that out so now a new commander and the hard option.
The coming operation to remove the threat to the ethnic Russian donbas will I think be full on.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 5:32 utc | 238

circumspect | Apr 12 2022 4:34 utc | 222
Thank you, very good info.
To the thread, is it my ‘gaming’ keyboard or has anyone else hit CTRL+V to paste some text and the text/zoom size shrinks drastically?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2022 5:35 utc | 239

To S and Petri
I sincerely apologize for missing this important information, but I also decry this ‘blog’ platform for making replies and searches less easy.
That answers many of my questions about discrimination against Russian and gives me starting points for further research.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2022 5:39 utc | 240

Vajezatha | Apr 12 2022 5:15 utc | 228
The most important and influential group in Russia today is that put together by Putin a year or two back. It doesn’t make the news much but is headed by Dmitry Medvedev.
Anything put out by Medvedev as head of this group is just as important to read as anything put out by Putin or Lavrov.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 5:48 utc | 241

@bjk | Apr 12 2022 1:06 utc | 179

When opening the link, I get a blurred image with notice “media is too big,” as frequently happens. Do I need to download Telegram for this to work? I don’t seem to be able to update anything since my Ubuntu 19.04 library functions malfunctioned about 1 1/2 years ago.

Yes, in general you need to install Telegram for it to work. There are other ways, but I would install Telegram.
As for Ubuntu 19.04, it is now obsolete, it is not an LTS (Long Term Support) version. Ubuntu comes with new versions every 6 months, lasting for a year+ or so until an upgrade is required. The LTS versions come every 2 years in April and are supported much longer. 18.04, 20.04, 22.04 are LTS versions. I have 20.04 since 2 years ago and plan to upgrade to 22.04 some time in ~July when bugs have been ironed out.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 5:52 utc | 242

I don’t know what to believe anymore, but I do know that the US can’t win a single war against poverty stricken 3rd world countries, so how in God’s name do they think there is even a remote chance to win against Russia?
The scary thing here in the US, is that we now have dangerous Zionist psychopaths running the State Dept who don’t give two shits about anything but world hegemony, no matter what it takes it or who dies while trying
And if Democrats are good enough as they have been in rigging elections, we might never rid ourselves of eugenicist Zionist like Vicky Nuland and her Zionist billionaire friends. The only thing I feel remotely hopeful about now is that more folks are waking up to US machinations and outright lies about President Putin and Russia that I support 100%
Scary times indeed

Posted by: Kay | Apr 12 2022 5:53 utc | 243

Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 5:48 utc | 235

Anything put out by Medvedev as head of this group is just as important to read as anything put out by Putin or Lavrov

I do agree. It is always important to know what the fifth column (Russian Liberals) is up to.

Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 12 2022 5:58 utc | 244

Why is a Russian Intelligence General in Moscow Lefortovo Prison?
There are several explanations for why Putin decided to throw Beseda under the bus now. Some say it’s due to the bad intelligence before the war. But inside the FSB most sources seem to think it was his failure to create and fund a pro-Kremlin opposition to Kyiv’s regime. In any case, that is being used in the official line of investigation, according to sources.
I thought there were political parties in the Ukraine that were Russian oriented.
The most likely explanation is that Beseda’s Fifth Service was also still in charge of maintaining official contacts with the CIA. Many people in Moscow and the Kremlin have been asking themselves why U.S. intelligence before the war was so accurate.
The intel predicting the war could have been from communication intercepts, satellite surveillance or maybe they listened to Putin and guessed what he would do to counter their moves. The West was correct and were not shy in publicizing that they knew about the start of this war.
Putin smacks down Russia spy chief over backing Ukraine separatist regions
Interesting level of fear and lack of policy clarity in that intelligence official.
Russian general killed and clutch of spy chiefs arrested
The FSB’s Fifth Service is the organisation that gave Mr Putin information on the political situation in Ukraine, which may have suggested that the Kyiv government would rapidly collapse and be easily replaced with Russian puppets.
I find that hard to believe that one would take a country to war on such light and airy notions. Losses may be higher than many believe.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 12 2022 6:02 utc | 245

Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 5:48 utc | 235
The Security Council of the Russian Federation
http://www.scrf.gov.ru/about/history/
The Council on Foreign and Defense Policy
http://www.svop.ru/about/

Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 12 2022 6:08 utc | 246

mmmmmmmmMMMMM smells like COPIUM in the morning

Posted by: you’rewhitedon’t@me | Apr 12 2022 6:14 utc | 247

circumspect | Apr 12 2022 6:02 utc | 239
Christo Grozev and Bellingcat are not reliable sources.
No official confirmation so far.

Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 12 2022 6:21 utc | 248

The combined West has no chance of defeating Russia or China. The s-300s that Slovakia gave to Ukraine was effectively blown up today by kinzhal missiles fired from Russia boats.
This nonsense about re-arming Ukraine is a joke. The propaganda machine will continue to intensify but the facts on the ground is all that matters. What hurts us is the skyrocketing inflation, food prices and shortages and in Europe, already setting in.
Some still believe in superpower America, but I suggest to take that to the grocery store, and see if you can get groceries.

Posted by: Karl luck | Apr 12 2022 6:22 utc | 249

Karl luck | Apr 12 2022 6:22 utc | 243
Have you heard Psaki?
Putin is responsible for high inflation in US !

Posted by: Vajezatha | Apr 12 2022 6:29 utc | 250

I think Scott Ritter could be right to be optimistic about the Pentagon only if this war took place on the American continent.
I hope fate will prove me wrong, but I have a very gloomy prognosis because in my life I have never seen such a level of blindness around me.

Posted by: Marjorie | Apr 12 2022 6:29 utc | 251

Lavrov: Our special military operation is designed to put an end to the reckless expansion and course towards the complete domination of the United States and the rest of NATO countries in the international arena.
The meaning has not yet been grasped, but in fact it is crystal clear and unequivocable.
Even before the start of the special operation Russia made it clear that NATO assets had to be removed to pre-1997 positions, and that if they will not do that themselves Russia will remove them herself. Russia waited long painful years for this moment, determined and resolute. She waited until she was in a position to impose her will by force, because she knew it would never come without force. That meant she had to be ready for all-out war with US/NATO.
Since the operation started the US/NATO have doubled down, making the full neutralisation of US/NATO military capability ever more utterly unavoidable.
That is why Russia readied such large forces before the start of the special operation, yet unly used a small fraction of them – because she must be ready for total war if necessary. That is why the entire Ukraine operation has been fought as though Russia had her hands tied behind her back – almost no highest-tech weapons except Kinzhal, very limited EW, very limited AD (even though she positioned S500 units at her borders prior to the operation), no SU-57, only older drones, etc – because her core weapons secrets had to be held tightly to her chest for the main battle.
Talking of the Pentagon not being willing and/or not daring to enter direct warfare against Russia is totally irrelevant – once you have committed your pieces to the battle they cannot be removed! The USA has already irrevocably committed itself to all-out warfare with Russia – in such a multitude of ways – that move cannot be reversed. No wonder the US and NATO are in such a tantrum! They can see they are no match for Russia, yet they cannot get out.
In theory it was stated again and again that Russia had taken out in the first 24 hours the ability of Ukraine’s high command to give orders and control her troops – but that’s irrelevant – because Ukraine’s army was and still is under the direct control of NATO at the level of platoon. Every fire is targetted and controlled and fired by NATO command on the basis of surveillance by NATO assets (aircraft, satellites etc). Ukraine’s army are just the zombies carrying out a zombie mission under NATO control.
It is obvious that in their exceptional stupidity and arrogance the US really did think that after 8 years meticulous preparations they could fight Russia in Ukraine and win (according to their own battle plans of course, not Russia’s). That’s why they had and still have large numbers of high level NATO officers right there in the Donbass and in Mariupol. For some time that was just rumours, but now Russia has officially confirmed it.
Supplying weapons; training; planning operations; officers on the ground in the thick of the battle; direct control by NATO of orders to combatants at platoon level; fire control; provision of targetting data; strategic control of the battle; … for these reasons and more, the US is already 100% a combatant, and was so from even before the start of the Special Operation. Any military operation by Russia against the US whatsoever – including on continental USA – is totally legitimised under international law because the US/NATO are full participants in the hostilities – and were full participants in the attacks against Donbass that triggered the Special Operation.
Make no mistake – Russia will take such operations – when the time is right and under conditions that are optimal for her.
One day, after the Special Operation in Ukraine is secured and requiring minimal commitment of forces, key satellites and the major optical fibres will suddenly go dead. All Western key radar stations will be destroyed. All air defences will be destroyed. Airfields will be destroyed before aircraft can take off. Then every US/NATO/allied military asset in the entire world will be comprehensively destroyed. In the continental north America, UK, Europe, Australia, Japan, and every overseas base, every ship, every aircraft. Every Western arms manufacturer will be totally destroyed. There will be no “invasion” – only stand-off weapons (except in limited cases to take war criminals captive for trial).
This much has been predetermined by the combination of the following: Russia’s declared demands before the start of the Special Operation; US/NATO commitments to full participation prior to and after the start of the operation; US/NATO doubling down after the start of the operation; etc. The US/NATO was an existential threat to Russia before the start of the operation; after doubling down they are even more of an existential threat, and it is clear that that threat cannot be removed except by eliminating it.
No “decision” or “choice” by the US is necessary for the described Russian escalation to take place, the US has no choice, it has blown it’s choice and burnt its boats. The US has committed all the prerequisite conditions for this course of events in advance – an avoidance is now inconceivable and impossible – except perhaps through unconditional surrender by the US, which of course in not going to happen.

Posted by: BM | Apr 12 2022 6:50 utc | 252

circumspect #225

NATO will not relent no matter how much Ukraine shrinks.
It will continue to run color revolutions at Belarus until it is smashed or it folds into their camp. It has only been going on since the fall of the Soviet Union. The list of countries are endless. The moves of the West are methodical and relentless.
Whatever rump part of Ukraine is left it would be in the interest of Russia to keep it a demilitarized poverty stricken basket case and promote the territories it supports. Word will get out. Modern communications works both ways.

YES! Thank you. That is exactly the best analysis and I am fairly certain that Russia has the picture regardless of their public statements. Lavrov’s recent blunt remarks reinforce it for me.
If Russia leaves one square centimeter of dirt unaccounted for the Polish nazis will insist it is theirs and that some ancient fascist hero’s blood is actually right there – a sacred site etc, etc. Likely they will say that anyway. IMO the Russians will make life intolerable for the westies in a month or two by just walking around and smiling and taking selfies (when they get their phones back). The westies will end up in Paris, Shropshire, Belfast, Malta, Corsica etc 🙂 what fun!
I am not sure The New Ukraine will be exactly safe though as the place will be awash with early release criminals who might have survived the war and footloose fascists seeking revenge on anything living at all. Zelensky and his NATO team have truly fractured the place.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2022 7:03 utc | 253

I find that hard to believe that one would take a country to war on such light and airy notions. Losses may be higher than many believe.
Posted by: circumspect | Apr 12 2022 6:02 utc | 239
Information from US “Mockingbird” media credible? LMAO
The US and NATO have become an existential threat to Russia, a project of the last 30 years. The miscalculation by US intelligence, NSC and Joe Biden was that Putin would act on failure of substantial talks. The split of global powers China and the US has been years in the making. Russia was shunned by the arrogance of EU in Brussels .. re: VDL, Michel and Borrell.
The US filled the void left by Angela Merkel … any effort in diplomacy would have avoided this brutal confrontation. Ukraine paying the price of 2014 coup d’état under leadership of VP Biden and Cheney leftover Vicky Nuland. The Azov boys will be eradicated for their war crimes in the Donbass, Odessa massacre and murders on Maidan square.

Posted by: Oui | Apr 12 2022 7:04 utc | 254

BM | Apr 12 2022 6:50 utc | 246
Exactly!

Posted by: Oui | Apr 12 2022 7:08 utc | 255

… The wider war is best understood as occurring on two levels: a traditional war between the invading forces of” —🇮🇱💩💰
… In your coffin, in your head.
“If this two-level perception is correctly analyzed in … 🪠
… your coffin, in your head.
“Noting that US academics and policy makers don’t believe NATO’s designs on Ukraine represent an existential threat to Russia, Mear🇮🇱💩💰 …

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 12 2022 7:21 utc | 256

BM #246
That is a bigger agenda than I had figured from the statements of Putin and Xi but it sounds entertaining. It will keep the bar pumping for a few years. Hopefully the outcome for nazis will be terminal and permanent. Here’s a toast to peace in 2025.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2022 7:28 utc | 257

In theory it was stated again and again that Russia had taken out in the first 24 hours the ability of Ukraine’s high command to give orders and control her troops – but that’s irrelevant – because Ukraine’s army was and still is under the direct control of NATO at the level of platoon. Every fire is targetted and controlled and fired by NATO command on the basis of surveillance by NATO assets (aircraft, satellites etc). Ukraine’s army are just the zombies carrying out a zombie mission under NATO control.

…[Aha.]

Supplying weapons; training; planning operations; officers on the ground in the thick of the battle; direct control by NATO of orders to combatants at platoon level; fire control; provision of targetting data; strategic control of the battle; … for these reasons and more, the US is already 100% a combatant, and was so from even before the start of the Special Operation. Any military operation by Russia against the US whatsoever – including on continental USA – is totally legitimised under international law because the US/NATO are full participants in the hostilities – and were full participants in the attacks against Donbass that triggered the Special Operation.

Posted by: BM | Apr 12 2022 6:50 utc | 246

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 12 2022 7:31 utc | 258

Latest from Mariupol 12/4/22
⚡️ The DNR prevented an attempted breakthrough in Mariupol⚡️
The day before, colleagues reported that the Volnovakha-Mariupol motorway was due to a breakthrough by Azov and the AFU.
Throughout the day there was conflicting information floating around and we were waiting for confirmation from reliable sources on the front line. And they, in fact, were busy working all day yesterday. More precisely, eliminating this breakthrough.
The information was confirmed. There really was an attempt. But it was unsuccessful. The breakthrough actually failed. More exclusive details and details in our special inclusion very soon.
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Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 7:45 utc | 259

More on Mariupol 12/4/22:
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⚡️Mariupol boiler⚡️The details of the breakthrough as of the morning of 12.04.22⚡️
The @wargonzo project has learnt details related to the attempted breakthrough of the 36th AFU brigade from the direction of Illich plant towards Zaporizhzhya. The DNR’s operation to prevent the breakthrough resulted in the capture of more than 100 Ukrainian marines.
How exactly this happened is described in @wargonzo’s traditional column “The Mariupol Cauldron”.
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Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 7:47 utc | 260

“Jews” don’t really much enter into it except as bit players invited in by the CIA or MI-6 to perform minor roles. Moreover, if “Jewish Bankers” really were as powerful as you say they are, then why is Ukraine’s economy in such a shambles? Why did it deteriorate so precipitously the moment the US/uk pulled off that 2014 coup?
Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 12 2022 3:31 utc | 209
This entire post is so accurately and succinctly expressed thank you. The “jews” narrative is so pervasive and distracting in the alternative news sphere, that hooks a great many people in who would be better served seeing a bigger picture. There are so many high level posts on the threads lately its absolutely the best place to come to for information and viewpoints that help my understanding of the situation.

Posted by: K | Apr 12 2022 7:47 utc | 261

@ @lienChrist | Apr 12 2022 7:36 utc | 253
Get bent, asshole.

Posted by: Laurence | Apr 12 2022 7:48 utc | 262

Testimony: Massive Bioweapons Production Facility Under Steele Plant, Doomsday Race Weapons
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/04/11/testimony-massive-bioweapons-production-facility-under-steele-plant-doomsday-race-weapons/

Posted by: bobert | Apr 12 2022 7:49 utc | 263

[Forwarded from Xoaquin FIores – New Resistance] https://t.me/polluxnc/3383
💢 People have wondered how many ‘high value persons” are trapped along with the (Nazi) Azov Battalion at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.
(1) Azovstal is one of the largest steelworks on the planet, where coal is coked and iron ore becomes steel. It’s a huge facility.
(2) Azovstal was transformed into a massive base for Azov, and designed to transform Mariupol into a medieval-style fortress. The French were over-confident that Mariupol would not fall.
All this may explain why the head of French military intelligence was sacked.
We receive information from Paris that allows us to complete the Mariupol “puzzle” and understand many of the still unclear issues surrounding the situation in the city.
As you know, the territory of Ukraine was divided into specific areas of responsibility of NATO countries. And in Mariupol there was a large intelligence center of the French Armed Forces, acting in the interests of the alliance and the Kiev regime.
At some points, its personnel reached hundreds of specialists, but by the time the battle for the city began, there were 53 officers of the French military intelligence DGSE.
Why they didn’t leave earlier is unknown. It is possible that they have decided to continue collecting information until the last moment. However, when the last opportunity for evacuation came, they could not leave, because evacuation attempts have failed, but also perhaps because the Azov militants with whom the French interacted simply did not let them out.
Seeing what was going on, the Nazis decided to use them as a guarantee that they themselves would be pulled out of the cauldron.
In addition to the French, in Mariupol there is a group of mercenaries – former and current officers from Canada, Sweden and Great Britain, as well as a detachment of Syrian Turkomans (takfiris) with extensive experience in urban combat in Syria. The total number of these volunteers is not exactly established. Among them may be career intelligence officers from the Canadian CSIS, Swedish MUST and British MI-6, who like to use the status of a mercenary as a cover.
So they were trapped, too. I’ll add it on my own: Judging by the way Greek diplomats were active in this area, it can be assumed that the military from this country was also involved. Moreover, Zelensky even showed two Greek mercenaries to the Greek parliament.
The eternal actor Tsipras feigned disgust, only to conceal the real role of the very same Greek intelligence services which he himself is compromised by.
To get out his hapless scouts, Macron began calling the Kremlin, to which he received assurances that Russian troops, if Paris met a number of conditions (the content of which was not disclosed by the French), were ready to give a corridor, but to resolve the issue with Azov, which does not let foreigners out, you need to talk to Zelensky.
But Zelensky also an actor, has no control over the Azov Nazis nor perhaps is even interested in getting out the French “trapped” in Mariupol (which would deprive Paris of room for maneuver and possibly contribute to an increased EU-Russia confrontation). In any case, he was unable or unwilling to help his French counterpart.
Chancellor Scholz came to Macron’s aid on March 18, and on March 20, with Moscow’s consent, a rescue team of German military intelligence officers from the BND was sent to Mariupol. But the “Azovites”, believing that this is the only hope for them to escape from the encircled city, having prompted Kiev to un-block it, turned the Germans into hostages, despite guarantees from the AFU command and the command (or rather, representative office) of the Azov regiment located in Kiev.
Pt. 1

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 7:51 utc | 264

12.04.2022 (10:05)
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation in Ukraine.
During the night, high-precision air and sea-based missiles destroyed: an ammunition depot and a protected hangar with Ukrainian aircraft at the Starokonstantinov military airfield in the Khmelnytsky region, as well as an ammunition depot near the village of Gavrilovka, Kiev region.
The operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 32 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them: in the Novomikhailovka area – the Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system, in the Zolotarevka area – a radar for illumination and guidance of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, as well as one command post and 18 areas of concentration of Ukrainian military equipment.
Russian air defense systems shot down two unmanned aerial vehicles in the air in the areas of the settlements of Berdyansk and Melitopol.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the following have been destroyed: 130 aircraft, 99 helicopters, 244 anti-aircraft missile systems, 443 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2139 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 241 installations of multiple launch rocket systems, 917 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 2046 units of special military vehicles.
Yesterday, April 11, in Mariupol at night, the remnants of Ukrainian troops surrounded on the territory of the Ilyich plant made an unsuccessful attempt to escape from the city.
A group of Ukrainian servicemen numbering up to 100 people in armored vehicles tried to fight their way out of the plant and leave the city in a northerly direction. This attempted breakthrough was thwarted by air and artillery strikes.
Three Ukrainian tanks, five infantry fighting vehicles, seven vehicles and up to 50 personnel were destroyed. Another 42 Ukrainian servicemen voluntarily laid down their arms and surrendered.

Posted by: ka | Apr 12 2022 7:53 utc | 265

I note too, that the NATO countries are supplying Ukraine with their obsolete military gear, some going back to the 1970s (the UK, “the Russian Army captured British armored personnel carriers AT105 “Saxon” of the 70s, decommissioned by the troops of the kingdom in 2008 and delivered to the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2015.”), all of which just prolongs the conflict and I’ve said before here, the Russians just keep on destroying it! Does wonders for the Western MICs but of course, it’s the Ukrainians who are paying the REAL price, with their lives!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 7:59 utc | 266

🇺🇦🇬🇧🐷 Phonecall between the British mercenary ‘cossackgundi’ and his friend moments before surrendering (he’s crying and emotional because he knows he’ll be hanged after military tribunal)
https://t.me/intelslava/24994

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 8:07 utc | 267

Barofsky #259

Chancellor Scholz came to Macron’s aid on March 18, and on March 20, with Moscow’s consent, a rescue team of German military intelligence officers from the BND was sent to Mariupol. But the “Azovites”, believing that this is the only hope for them to escape from the encircled city, having prompted Kiev to un-block it, turned the Germans into hostages, despite guarantees from the AFU command and the command (or rather, representative office) of the Azov regiment located in Kiev.
Pt. 1

Thank you Barovsky, can I shout you a drink at the bar. That is the best news I have had since Monty Python swallowed the pussy mascot.
Not even the German nazi apologist from Nato central could fix a deal – too good. There is also that delicious line about the French picking a BAD location and then leaving their departure too late – ghost of Dien Bien Phu. I just know that Ho Chi Minh and General Vo Nguyen Giap are laughing their tits off.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2022 8:08 utc | 268

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We are really at war with the demons here.
Our humanitarian group today brought help to Nikolo-Vasilyevsky monastery. Food, medicine, baby food, jerry cans of fuel. More than 200 nuns and residents of the two monasteries, seriously ill people from the alms-house, and almost 250 refugees, including infants, take shelter here from Ukrainian shelling. The Ukrainians are hitting the monastery every day. People are afraid to go outside. Anya, who refused to run away without her dog and lives in the monastery with her, said she has not seen the sun for two weeks. It’s understandable – a woman died a week ago before she could run from the pilgrimage centre to the temple.
The monastery has been badly damaged. Today, before our people arrived, a nun was miraculously not killed by mortar fire, her cell was completely burnt out.
Bringing help to the monastery is difficult. It’s almost impossible to evacuate people safely.
We’re not leaving them behind. So many words of thanks for the help and promises to pray for the little we’ve done for them…
We’ll get them out. Protect. We will rebuild the monastery.
https://t.me/wargonzo/6542

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 8:12 utc | 269

[Forwarded from 🇦🇺#AussieCossack]
[ Photo ]
https://t.me/c/1262772134/10158
🔴Ukrainian activists have attacked the Russian General Consulate in Sydney overnight.
🔴The Russian Consulate was vandalised with red paint.
🔴Sources within the Consulate suggest local NSW are disinterested in investigating such attacks.
🔴Eastern Suburbs Police Area Command have previously refused to investigate acts of violence and hate crimes against the Russian community.
⚠️Notably Constable Abdul Ayad refused to initiate action against an anti-Russian assailant who assaulted high profile Russian community members in front of the Russian General Consulate.
Ps. So first social media legalised threats and hate crime against Russians. Now NSW Police refuse to investigate and action crimes against Russians.
@AussieCossack

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 8:16 utc | 270

The truth is, Russia will condemn all instances of former Soviet Republics asserting their national identity as “Nazi”.
Posted by: Ghost of Kyiv | Apr 11 2022 16:50 utc | 4
The truth is, the after 2014 putsch government tried to build a new nation on the ruins of the multinational Soviet Ukraine. A minority of Ukrainian citizens speak Ukrainian. As to the method of building this new nation, it is sufficient here to point out the “SS Galizien” patch on the back of the SBU officer.

Posted by: RJB | Apr 12 2022 8:17 utc | 271

[Forwarded from MoD Russia]
❗️New false staged provocations to accuse the Russian Armed Forces of allegedly abusing the population of Ukraine are being prepared by the Kiev regime under the guidance of the British intelligence services in Sumy region.
❗️Representatives of the Ukrainian and Western media have been invited to Seredina Buda town in Sumy Region, which was formerly under the control of Russian troops, to conduct staged video footage. In order to conceal the provocation and prevent it from being exposed by real witnesses, a curfew has been imposed in the city and the local population has been forcibly evicted from the places where the filming took place.
▫️In Nizhnyaya Syrovatka near Sumy, bodies are being dragged into one of the basements of residential buildings to be presented as allegedly another victim of the Russian Army. As conceived by the “British filmmakers”, units of Russian troops allegedly massacred and humiliated civilians as they withdrew. Another fake will be promoted by the Western media in the very near future. Its aim is to further increase Russophobia against the backdrop of Europe’s rapidly developing economic crisis.
❗️Please note that Russian troops withdrew from this location three weeks ago – on March 20. Such events, if they really happened, could not have failed to become public in such a long period. Moreover, the Kiev regime is looking for any reasons to accuse Russia of genocide of the Ukrainians. A whole network of foreign information-psychological influences on the population is currently operating in Ukraine, producing “dirty tricks” on a professional basis. We will see the results of their anti-Russian activities more than once.
▫️The Ukrainian authorities also make extensive use of interested countries and non-profit organisations.
▫️For example, the French leadership has sent a group of French servicemen and the Gendarmerie to Ukraine to collect information on alleged crimes committed by Russian servicemen, together with representatives of the “International Commission on Missing Persons” (created at the initiative of the USA).
▫️On April 11, French special operations forces personnel, together with technical experts from the French Gendarmerie and the Interior Ministry, arrived in Ukraine via Germany and Poland through the so-called “diplomatic corridor”.
Given the partisanship of these “experts”, there is no hope of an impartial investigation. Apparently, their main areas of activity will be to cover up numerous war crimes against the population of Ukraine and the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics committed by the Ukrainian authorities over the last eight years, as well as fabricating accusations against the Russian Armed Forces.
📑 Statement Full Text
(https://t.me/mod_russia_en/815)#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #HumanitarianResponse
@mod_russia_en

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 8:17 utc | 272

nemesis calling #26
Most people have forgotten the loyalty test given to all officers in the US military under Obama. It resulted in the purge of hundreds of officers from the ranks and especially junior officers bit also quite a few Generals were eliminated as well. The test basically came down to whether you swore an oath of loyalty to the Constitution or to the President and his minions.
The current oath reads: “I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. (Title 5 U.S. Code 3331, an individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services)”
So, legally it is to ONLY the Constitution and NOT the President or the executive branch underlings (and especially not Congress). Of course, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) it defines loyalties and responsibilities a bit better but under the framework of the Constitution. The UCMJ is very slow to change over the history of the US. But, that said it is the duty for all military to disobey illegal orders. Obama set about to eliminate those that might defy him and now we see the results in that senior officers no longer believe the Constitution defines law in the US.
It must also be recognized that soldiers are no longer Citizens as such and are no longer actually protected by the Constitution but are rather covered under the UCMJ. Penalties in time of war can go up to death and any officer in combat can shoot a defiant soldier on the spot without trial. As we are always in a state of war (except for a brief period in 1959) the penalties can get pretty bad depending on the rank of the convening authority for a court-martial. Also, appeals go to a higher rank appellate so the punishment can also be increased to the maximum of that appetite’s rank.
Anyway, it is a morass and Obama screwed up the military for several decades.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Apr 12 2022 8:17 utc | 273

Posted by: @lienChrist | Apr 12 2022 7:36 utc | 253
Now that, friends, is a long fucking post. Damn glad it’s not one of mine.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 12 2022 8:19 utc | 274

So, does that mean going all the way to the Channel and demilitarizing all of Europe?
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2022 17:21 utc | 14
I think your emotions are taking over you. Nobody wants Russia “going all the way to the Channel”, more importantly Russia is not planning to do that. Stalin didn’t ever plan it either despite American propaganda. There is no need to do that to achieve a multipolar world.

Posted by: RJB | Apr 12 2022 8:27 utc | 275

Wholesale prices in March 2022: +22.6% on March 2021
The largest impact on the annual rate of change in March 2022 had the price increase in wholesale trade of mineral oil products (+70.2%). The high price increase in wholesale trade of solid fuels (+61.9%) as well as metals and metal ores (+55.8%) also contributed to the high rate of change in March 2022.

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2022/04/PE22_161_61281.html
This will likely continue, since Russia is shifting to Asia. I expect EU countries to silently go to Russia very soon and hope to get back to the status quo ante before the war. The German public will be kept propagandized by the German MSM. The outcome of the price hike will only be felt later on. When this happens, ppl will be asking who led them to the point that they dont have much money left after securing basic needs. It will depend on Russia, if the shift to Asia is permanent.
In case of Germany, it is our centuries old dilemma: We dont have ressources, but the the industry to process ressources to goods. We depend on cheap access to keep our high standard of living. In this regard, we suck the wealth out of poor but ressources rich countries to our benefit. It has always been that way and Russia/USSR was content with that, even during the Cold War. It seems like especially the current Green politicians dont know what the leaders before them had to grapple with. They assume the ressources will always be there and energy comes out of the socket. Their fancy projects are built around that assumption of cheap and available ressources. They will lead German society to and likely over the cliff, if they are not voted out of office.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 12 2022 8:27 utc | 276

Not content on conquering the whole of planet Earth, greedy Putin wants to conquer the Moon:
https://t.me/readovkanews/30687
Russia is to restart its moon program

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 8:29 utc | 277

Richard Steven Hack #268

Now that, friends, is a long fucking post. Damn glad it’s not one of mine.

Yours are more divine comrade.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2022 8:31 utc | 278

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 12 2022 8:27 utc | 269
Yes, the neo-colonial chickens are NOT coming home to roost!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 8:33 utc | 279

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 7:51 utc | 259
Interesting ideas. I just watched Mercouris and Christoforou on The Duran video from yesterday. Mercouris seems to think that the Austrian leader is being sent to Putin in lieu of Scholz, who would face a crisis in the government if he went. The other reason the Austrian leader is going, rather than phoning, is because the only secure place to talk in Europe without being overheard is the Kremlin. So Mercouris thinks Scholz is sending the Austrian leader in order to find out a way to keep the dialog going with Putin towards finding a way out of the energy crisis and leaving the door open for after the Russians win the war.
Mercouris also answered a question from Christoforou as to why Russia, give that it is now obvious that they are at war with the EU/NATO, doesn’t just turn off the gas. Mercouris speculated that Gazprom is telling Putin that we’re getting revenue, we’re building up foreign reserves, we’re (I assume Gazprom is “we”) getting half out revenue from the EU, so let’s just keep doing it. Whereas on the other side, with the apparent hardening of the Russian position as expressed by Lavrov, the more hard line Kremlin officials are telling Putin to turn the tap off, and let Russia eat the loss in order to bring down the EU. Mercouris believes this conversation has been ongoing since the start of the war, but that initially Gazprom had the advantage, but it’s likely the hard liners are getting stronger every day.
Mercouris also answered a question about Lavrov’s hardening stance vs Peskov’s softer stance. Mercouris basically said Lavrov is Foreign Minister, he sits on the Security Council, whereas Peskov is merely Putin’s press secretary, and in fact Mercouris considers him incompetent, and therefore one should pay more attention to what Lavrov says than Peskov.
Sounds logical to me. Really looking forward to seeing what comes out of reducing the Azov in the steel plant. If any of the speculation is true, it could be a game changer.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 12 2022 8:36 utc | 280

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2022 8:31 utc | 271
Uh, I haven’t claimed divinity – yet. Thinking about it. 🙂

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 12 2022 8:37 utc | 281

I think that most of the people south of the border of Denmark are infected by the disease commonly known as” We want war”, symptoms are frothing at the mouth, wild eyes, erratic gestures and more or less incomprehensible speech, this coupled with a fancy for nighttime candle lit marches.
The disease is lethal to those infected, especially if you are impoverished, and will only bring misery.
Unfortunately, someone will have to put it out of its misery, the US and NATO have shown themselves impotent in this matter (umpteenth time), so we look to Russia to please stop this nonsense. They acted before asked, and thus Russian troops in Ukraine. Russia will not have a Western inflicted war on its borders. That is understandable, the US would not accept a war on its border to Canada (:) or Mexico ( more likely).
Superpowers are superpowers, step on their toes at your own peril. Killing scores of Russian speaking ethnic Russians in Ukraine will hardly go unnoticed by Moscow, I wonder if Zelensky is even capable of thinking.
I predict that the country we knew as Ukraine will be split up in many pieces and other countries will make their claims, in the end Ukraine will be a statelet like Lichtenstein, consisting of central Ukraine, the rest will be gone forever.
Europe of course will have to deal with all the Nazis they get, maybe they can get visas to the US or Canada, that’s where we always deported the undesirables.
The US would be a good place, maybe Detroit, it’s already a wreck, they are used to that, so it will be easy to assimilate, maybe Zelensky could go for mayor (if he survives).
So all in all it’s not that bad, Europe and Russia get rid of a lot of troublesome mouth breathers and semi Nazis (which should have been taken care of after WWII), well the Soviet Union tried, for them the war ended in 1954.
But, but I fear we are going nowhere, the US has in its genes to instigate war whenever it can and will do so.I could go on for an hour or two about the thuggery of the US , but my post is already to long.
Cheers

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Apr 12 2022 8:39 utc | 282

– “The return of Great Power Politics in the 21st century”
John Mearsheimer blasts the EU / Europe for convincing the europeans that the russians are the bad guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKM6YdIxwQo
– I fully agree. Due to its location on the planet interests of Europe / EU are different from “the interests” of the US Empire. And the war in the Ukraine makes that abundently / painfully clear.
– The EU has imposed trade sanctions against Russia. But now Russia demands rubles for its gas (and oil ???). Those who have knowledge of how the PETRODOLLAR system works knows that this will FORCE Europe / EU to get rid of those trade sanctions. It’s going to be interesting how the EU / Europe is going to react to this “new challange”.

Posted by: Willy2 | Apr 12 2022 8:43 utc | 283

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 12 2022 8:36 utc | 273
Yes, I think you’re right re the revenue stream. Why should Russia switch off the revenue stream? Surely NOT for any alleged ideological reason. And the Russians are nothing if not scrupulous about honouring contracts, and always have been, as the West knows, even when the West behaves like a bunch of cheapo thieves (and murderers) See Post 269.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 8:58 utc | 284

Canada which has Nazi sympathiser monuments and when one was damaged it was reported to police as a hate crime, Canada also has a Ukrainian community and folk of Ukrainian descent so it should come as a surprise to no one that Canadian troops have been training Azov battalion troops, Chrystia Freeland will be so proud. I’ve also read that Israeli forces were training Ukrainian forces in the West of Ukraine.
“Canada’s military has reportedly provided combat training to members of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov regiment, contrary to stated policy and despite previous denials of any official relations between Ottawa and the notorious militia.
The apparent connection came to light in photos posted on social media by the Ukrainian National Guard, according to a report on Monday by Radio-Canada. The pictures show soldiers wearing Azov Battalion patches on their uniforms while participating in training with Canadian forces.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 12 2022 8:58 utc | 285

Slightly off-tangent:
Intel Slava Z, [12/04/2022 09:43]
🇷🇺❗️”So it will be” – Putin in response to the words of the ceremony participants that the goals of the military operation must be fulfilled.
Intel Slava Z, [12/04/2022 09:46]
🇷🇺❗️Putin on the course of the operation in Ukraine.
There is no doubt that the goals and objectives of the operation in Ukraine will be fulfilled.
The Russian Aerospace Forces during the special operation in Ukraine act courageously, competently, efficiently and effectively.
In addition, Putin announced that the Russian Federation was resuming the lunar program (but this, in principle, was known to be so, by virtue of the agreement concluded with China on the construction of a joint base on the Moon in the 2030s). It was also announced that within the framework of cooperation with Belarus, a Belarusian cosmonaut would soon go into space.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 9:05 utc | 286

BM | Apr 12 2022 6:50 utc | 246
Crystal clear and very well argued BM.
I can only assume that this is exactly as Russia sees things, but is focused on cleaning up the Ukraine mess before attending to matters further afield.
Perhaps the final resolution of the Mariupol situation will provide evidence for the first counter attack on the West based on irrefutable evidence of war crimes committed by the US and EU via their accomplice Ukraine.
Knowing a lot about Putin’s style, it seems that he will patiently collect a mountain of evidence which will be rolled out later this year in War Crimes Tribunals similar to Nuremberg. At that point with Ukraine visibly collapsing, the consequences for the West of energy and food shortages will force its people to reflect on the incompetence and dishonesty of its leadership.
Those biolabs are going to produce a lot of evidence of fraud surrounding the Covid crisis I suspect. While the mainstream media is now lying its head off just as it did during Covid it is going to become increasingly obvious the the public that all is not as they believe it to be.
Will be interesting to see how it all evolves as the truth comes out.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 12 2022 9:07 utc | 287

More on Azovstal (from WarGonzo)
https://t.me/wargonzo/6551
⚡️37 Afghans are in Azov-Stal together with neo-Nazis⚡️
This became known to Donbass intelligence officers after another radio interception a few days ago.
However, according to the @wargonzo project, just the day before the Afghans made contact and requested a corridor to evacuate from an industrial zone in Mariupol, where they are surrounded along with neo-Nazis from Azov. It was the militants, incidentally, who blocked negotiations for the evacuation of foreigners by the DNR and Russian Federation’s NM fighters.
@wargonzo has the following version of the presence of 37 Afghan soldiers in the Azov ranks.
We are talking about those commandos who used to work for the pro-American government of Ghani – after the withdrawal of NATO troops and the victory of the Taliban – they were evacuated to the U.S., where they joined the PMC Academy (formerly Black Watters [sic], they mean Blackwater). They are just one of the military personnel, education and training of which the Americans were actively involved in Afghanistan. They came to Mariupol to fight as mercenaries.
@wargonzo
*Our project exists by means of subscribers’ funds, the card for help
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Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 9:08 utc | 288

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 12 2022 9:07 utc | 280
I hope you’re right, the problem as I see it, is convincing the publics of the core, Imperialist states (US, UK, Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Canada, Australia and the ‘honorary’ whites, Japan) that their governments are a bunch of lying, murderous bastards! This is why for the core, the propaganda war is central and with the MSM so concentrated into a literal less than handful of conglomerates, this is where the battle has to start!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 9:15 utc | 289

EU Taking Responsibility for Genocide
A sickening show happened in Bucha with Ursula von der Leyen kissing Azov’s Nazi ass. She must have known who really killed these people. By rewarding Ukraine for warcrimes she is ordering more of the same. The Kramatorsk massacre happened during her visit. George Eliason comes to the same conclusion, she is guilty of genocide!
It is interesting that only Ursula and her sidekick Josep Borrell visited Bucha. It is as if the EU takes their orders from the US and UK, not from any EU member states. Also, any national leader would be informed by their countries military intelligence of the true events. Is it because the EU has no army or military intelligence, that these clowns think they can evade culpability?
Boris Johnson only visited Kiev. He must know better, so he avoided getting his hands bloodied in Bucha. But his visit shows that the UK is the driving force behind the massacres.
It was evidently Macron who asked Zelensky for proof of the “Bucha massacre” claims. France sent military experts to Bucha to investigate. Everyone knows what happened, but he Macron needs absolute proof before he can denounce the cabal.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 12 2022 9:22 utc | 290

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 9:15 utc | 282
Right, and do you know why I think Musk wants to get control of twitter? Not because of fancy free speech tirades, but because he wants to be relevant, when national security decision makers take action. If you control twitter, a key propaganda tool, your position will be taken into account and you will be taken seriously. Musk can use this leverage to get good deals for his business, eg access to ressources for his batteries. Bezos bought the Washington Post for exactly that reason, but newspapers becoming irrelvant with the rise of social media, especially twitter.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 12 2022 9:22 utc | 291

If the numbers are close to reality, it looks like the ukie losses are picking up dramatically, almost 2x; this is really good news for the overall Donbass operation, let’s see if it’s sustained or it’s just a blip due to the collapse of the Mariupol cauldron:
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/41708
[Forwarded from Rybar]
[ Photo ]
❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Losses of the Ukrainian side as a result of a special military operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on April 12, 2022
During the day, the AFU lost 1,144 people killed, wounded and captured.
According to the internal summary of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 6 tanks, 20 armored vehicles, 14 field artillery and mortars, 2 long- and medium-range air defense systems, 43 units of automotive and special equipment, 3 aircraft and 1 helicopter were lost.
Important clarification: all these data are predictable. That is, the Ukrainian side does not have the exact number of losses for each category in its own internal reports and summary.
There is no communication with some units, and they are missing, it is possible to restore some equipment after the strike. Therefore, in internal reports, the tendency is always to underestimate the real number of losses.
Infographics in high resolution (https://i.ibb.co/Hp3wm0m/12-04-eng .jpg)
English version (https://i.ibb.co/Hp3wm0m/12-04-eng.jpg)
#Russia #Ukraine
@rybar

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 9:26 utc | 292

@lienChrist 253
Everything you wrote is very true. 15 years ago I experienced something similar that changed my life forever. But my personal experience has shown that appeals to other people do not work. You either listen indifferently or your words cause aggression. Each fetus matures at its own time.

Posted by: Nebo Sinee | Apr 12 2022 9:27 utc | 293

Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 9:15 utc | 282
I’m in Australia and our media is as corrupt as in any of the countries you mention. However there is very substantial pool of skeptics who question much of what we are being told and in my own circle there are many eager to hear another explanation. Sites like MOA are a great way to re-educate them. While not large in number they do provide a refreshing alternative view and I have seen many begin to see the light.
The path I predict for Russia is one that people will have to take notice of as their own world starts to fall apart. For instance the truth about MH17 will be in the archives in Kiev. AS the Australian government has actively participated in blaming Russia for this crime a lot of officials are going to look stupid if not corrupt. There are many who will want to be governed differently when they see all the mismanagement of those in charge.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Apr 12 2022 9:29 utc | 294

As soon as Russian army left Chernobyl – ukrainians started looting spent nuclear fuel.
https://www.facebook.com/dazv.gov.ua/posts/351817566984231

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 12 2022 9:48 utc | 295

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 12 2022 9:22 utc | 284
If I’m not mistaken, it was announced Monday or perhaps earlier that Musk won’t be joining the Twitter board. Don’t know why.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 12 2022 9:57 utc | 296

I’m reminded by a Russian friend in Moscow that today is Cosmonauts Day!
[Forwarded from Tina Kandelaki]
[ Video ]
61 years ago. A rocket built solely on Soviet-made components. Great designer. Bold pilot. The work of thousands of the country’s most talented engineers.
A chapter of history that the citizens of the USSR were the first to write.
Happy holiday! Happy Cosmonautics Day)

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 9:59 utc | 297

https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1513764141797892097/photo/1
This is a chart for comparing the wholesale prices in Germany over the last decades, the current hike of 22% in March 2022 is way higher than during the OPEC oil embargo during 1973-74. Inflation will be out of control. My guess is that this will force a re-evaluation of priorities: The needs of Ukraine will be secound to the needs of Germany. It is literally unchartered territory.

Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 12 2022 9:59 utc | 298

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY2GBmYPYxk
Mariupol: incoming; small arms fire:
5,965 views
Apr 10, 2022
Maximilian Clarke
5.38K subscribers

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 10:06 utc | 299

I’m sorry but I find it difficult to share the optimism of people who think revelations about bio-labs or the personnel trapped in Mariopol are going to be game changers. Censorship has been normalised (one of the key aims of wokeism, along with divide and rule) The velvet glove is well and truly off, we will be fortunate if dissidents (which is what we are) don’t end up being dragged off to camps and charged with sedition.
The Russians are keeping the gas flowing mainly to delay the start of open warfare with NATO which will almost inevitably mean going nuclear. The ‘west’ will continue to double down, as one commenter said recently “This is for all the chips”.
Maybe, just maybe the EU and NATO will disintegrate first but I can’t see the banksters allowing that (they have nuclear bunkers after all) More probably this will end with the total economic collapse of the ‘west’ or nuclear war.
There will be no sufficient popular uprisings, all I’m getting from the general public is the faint whiff of lanolin. All of out political parties are now neo-somethings, neo-conservatives, neo-liberals and now neo-greens.
Sorry to be a bummer but I’m just calling it as I see it. Keep the articles and the posts coming though, the only way to keep our slender grip on free speech is to keep using it.

Posted by: MarkU | Apr 12 2022 10:26 utc | 300