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April 27, 2022

Politico: "Germany approves tank sales to Ukraine, bowing to pressure"

Did Germany really decide to deliver tanks to the Ukraine?

The German government said Tuesday it will deliver anti-aircraft tanks to Ukraine after facing strong pressure at home and abroad to abandon its reluctance to supply heavy weapons to Kyiv.

The decision to provide the “Gepard” tanks, which come from German defense industry stocks, was made at a closed-door government meeting on Monday, Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht told reporters at a Ukraine security conference at a U.S. airbase in Ramstein, Germany. There was no immediate information on how many tanks Germany would deliver.

The announcement marks a notable shift for Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who as recently as last week was still ruling out sending German tanks to Ukraine, insisting it would make more sense for Eastern NATO countries to give Kyiv old Soviet-era tanks already familiar to the Ukrainian military. Scholz promised Germany would then send those countries replacement German tanks.

I find it amusing how many misunderstand this move. First off - the Gepard (Cheetah) is not a tank as the turret has very little protective armor.


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It is a short range (5 km / 3 miles) anti-air system on a tank chassis useful against helicopters, drones and low flying planes.

That Scholz decided to offer these, instead of real tanks or armored infantry carriers as the U.S. and the camouflage-Green party demanded, is a nice way out. It guarantees that the Ukrainians will not be able to use them before the war is over.

The Gepard system with its two 35mm cannons is more than 50 years old but has been upgraded two or three times. The Germany army retired their last one of these in 2010. They have since been held in storage.

I remember them well from my time in the Bundeswehr. While my primary training was as a gunner on a real tank, the Leopard 1A3, two people I knew were trained as gunners for the Gepard. There was a huge difference though. It took 6 months of training to become a reasonably good tank gunner. It took 12 month, including hundreds of hours in a simulator, to become a gunner on a Gepard. The commander role required even more training.

The system was excellent for its time but also really complicate. The two radars have various modes for different purposes. One would better use the right one or risk to attract explosive countermeasures. The startup of the turret systems and the handling of their various error modes that could occur were not easy to handle. The tank chassis is also more complicate than the original one. It has an additional motor which powers five electric generators, two Metadyne rotary transformers and a flywheel to handle the extraordinary fast movements of the turret (2.5 sec for a 360°turn).

There are probably less than ten people in the current Bundeswehr who still know how to operate and maintain a Gepard. There is thus little chance to find German crews for them.

If the Ukrainians really want to use these outdated systems they will have to train fresh crews for at least a year. Otherwise those guns will be ineffective and of little use.

My hunch though is that none of these will ever be delivered. The Swiss, who manufactured the cannons and their ammunition, have seen to that:

Neutral Switzerland has vetoed the re-export of Swiss-made ammunition used in Gepard anti-aircraft tanks that Germany is sending to Ukraine, the government said on Tuesday.

Germany earlier announced its first delivery of heavy weapons to Ukraine to help it fend off Russian attacks following weeks of pressure at home and abroad to do so.

The Swiss State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (SECO) confirmed a report by broadcaster SRF that it had blocked Germany from sending munitions for the Gepard tank to Ukraine.

Chancellor Scholz likely knew all that. The offer of Gepards is a safe way to relieve the pressure put onto him to send arms to Ukraine. It is an offer of a system that can not be used within the timeframe of the war and for which he can not deliver the necessary specialized ammunition.

Are there still some Lockheed F-104 Starfighter in German storage? If so those flying coffins should be offered next.

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@ Debsisdead | Apr 27 2022 11:26 utc | 14 // @ farm ecologist | Apr 27 2022 14:22 utc | 56

thanks for sharing that video guys... i too highly recommend it.. brilliant take down of the western msm bullshit..

Matt Orfalea Weapons 4 Ukraine

Posted by: james | Apr 27 2022 17:11 utc | 101

i can't see europe getting its head out of usa's ass.... it is a nice thought though...

Posted by: james | Apr 27 2022 17:11 utc | 102

So the Gepard is going to be sent to Ukraine and eventually find it's way (through an oligarch) to some African warlord for a lot of money/diamonds. The thing will be useless but it will look good in a parade and someone is going to make a lot of money to make that parade look good. I believe that this the destiny of most of the weapons that the west is sending to Ukraine at this moment. Except for all that weaponry that was just inherited by the Russian military in Novo Karhovka or blown up in transit into the Ukraine. It's a shame that the west can't take care of it's borders, citizens or veterans but it can send billions that make Ukie oligarchs richer. I would never imagine there is some sort of kick back going to western politicians. OK, yes I would.

Posted by: raig | Apr 27 2022 17:18 utc | 103

Juliana: here in New Mexico

I'm thinking of New Mexico today, especially since I've read that the villages of Mora and Guadalupita have been evacuated. We built an adobe halfway between those two back in the 80s. So tragic. Such a beautiful place and a unique culture.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Apr 27 2022 17:21 utc | 104

In his joint presser today following talks with Foreign Minister of Eritrea Oleg Saleh, Lavrov fielded one question about Ukraine. Russia continues to expand its African relations. Prior to answering the query about Ukraine, Lavrov made the following remarks:

We paid great attention to the task of preventing the negative impact on our practical cooperation of the action of unilateral illegitimate sanctions imposed by the states of the "collective West", which has made sanctions almost the main and only tool of its foreign policy.

We noted the coincidence of our approaches on key topical issues of our time, including the need for further democratization of international life, respect for the right of the peoples of the world to choose their own destiny and determine the ways and models of their political and socio-economic development.

We have a good level of coordination at the UN and other multilateral venues. We have common positions on countering persistent attempts by Western countries to undermine the foundations of the UN, the principles of international law and establish a unipolar world, promoting the dominance of the West in all spheres of international life under the strict leadership of Washington.

There's been lots of speculation as to possible territorial adjustments to Ukraine as its sections get liberated from the NATONazi government's control, which is what the following Q&A focus on. Do note Lavrov's evasive answer:

"Question: Head of the Civic Chamber of Crimea Alexander Formanchuk spoke about the possibility of including Kherson Oblast in the Russian Federation. This region and a number of other regions of southern Ukraine are under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. They are in close connection with the people. Was the desire of local residents to join Russia noticed? Can we talk about a new form of map of Russia, which includes some regions of the south of Ukraine?

"Sergey Lavrov: From the very beginning of the special military operation, we made a statement that the goal is to protect civilians who suffer from the militarization and Nazification of their country. From the fact that outright neo-Nazis "rule the roost" in the power structures. They do not even hesitate to demonstrate the relevant symbols of Hitler's Germany. The population suffers from the fact that the government led by the president adopts laws that consistently kill the Russian language, culture, education in Ukraine. These laws encourage the theory and practice of Nazism. People are under totalitarian oppression. Their mood should be put in the first place, give full priority.

"Announcing the start of a special military operation, we said: we proceed from the fact that the citizens of Ukraine themselves will determine their own destiny. It's up to them, not someone else. Ukraine has been under external control for many years. People are tired of it." [My Emphasis]

Lavrov's answer continues to be the same, which I noted in my April 19th article, "Lavrov Interview with India Today TV: The Regime Will Be Changed By the Ukrainian People, Not Russia."

For those who didn't visit yesterday, I posted three important interview/presser transcripts to the week in review thread, while I placed the Kremlin readout of the Putin/Guterres meeting in the Lira thread given its relevance. The full Patrushev interview is available there which provided the basis for the article Sundial posted @67. As usual, Patrushev is extremely frank and pulls no punches.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 17:26 utc | 105

Posted by: Eric Newhill | Apr 27 2022 14:57 utc | 66

Imo,all this US/Nato gathered Military equipment will be solely used to defend the West of Ukraine,due to destruction of the rail links West & South.The hope being,the Russians will be forced to leave a Small Rump Ukraine,so the west can stay in the game.
I guess we will have to wait and see how far west the Russians will go and if they deal to the Ukrainian political structure on the way,after completion of the Dombass operation.
As for Transnistria,it will be easily defended by the Air and sea until Russia arrives from the East.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 17:31 utc | 106

Good stuff b!
This is real hands on experience stuff that all of us like.

The Germans obviously want to disengage from all this aid to Ukraine stuff. They were the ones who backed Nordstream II with Schroeders at the helm of the company when everyone else pulled back after 2014 coup and the Crimean takeover. Remember what happened to Southstream. See where licking Uncle Sam's a** got Bulgaria.

This is a good way to give something to the (green) hyenas who have zero understanding of the geopolitical environment while doing nothing in reality. Good job! The aim of the govt is of course to not let the economy go to the toilet which will happen if the Russians stop the gas flow completely. The Russians get the German predicament. I hope they can subdue Ukraine before Germany is forced to self immolate by its lord and master the US

Posted by: ancientarcher | Apr 27 2022 17:35 utc | 107

The Air Force backed a "movie" called The Starfighters, which was actually part sales pitch, part damage control. It relentlessly talks about how mighty and advanced the planes are, and any accidents or crashes are minor and blamed on pilot error. Needless to say, this robs the film of any drama or excitement! It "stars" Bob Dornan, who would later become a congressman, known as "B-1 Bob" for his relentless promotion of spending on the Air Force, so I guess they got their money's worth. Given the times -- 1962 or so -- the heroic pilots are portrayed as relentless womanizers and drunks, and in preparation for an overseas flight to deliver the widowmakers to NATO, the AF hand out amphetamines! It became a hilarious episode of Mystery Science Theater, here: https://youtu.be/D5cEpoHLFOk

Hilarious to think of them winding up in Ukraine!

Posted by: James J O'Meara | Apr 27 2022 17:36 utc | 108


After Sec. Austin and Sec. Blinken's visit, ex-Secretary Rice says is clearly, and more...

A Conversation about Russian Sanctions and the Future of Sanctions

Posted by: SailorsWife | Apr 27 2022 17:37 utc | 109

# Posted by: juliania | Apr 27 2022 15:03 utc | 69

Does Ukraine have a desert region?

It's regarded as the bread-basket of Europe, so no- it's pretty much the opposite. Deep, fertile soil with a lot of water.
It's extremely flat, though.

MY dream is to go there to experience the harvest season. I love the smell of golden wheat on a sunny august morning. I lost hope in 2014, now it's rekindled again.

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 27 2022 17:37 utc | 110

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Apr 27 2022 17:21 utc | 105

I remember that scout ranch. I was thinking of driving up to Trinidad, hitting Raton at 25, but I best check the daily fire updates.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 27 2022 17:38 utc | 111

Being reported that 60% of Germany's military equipment stock is not combat ready/operational. The US hasn't made any new stingers in 20 years and doesn't currently have established production. The Lima, OH tank plant produces 11 Abrams tanks/month, mostly to just keep it operational because no politician wants to be responsible for closing it. (It does produce chassis for other armored vehicles.)

None of these things can be turned around quickly in current circumstances. All of them will be negatively impacted by either shortages or costs of energy and raw materials. I assume that the situation in Europe may be somewhat better since it has retained a technical education track, but in the US ramping up skilled labor for military production would likely be problematic. Finding a good welder or machinist these days is not easy. I assume that like so many other things recently, Western leadership doesn't actually have a plan for rectifying these issues. And they are existential issues if the "plan" is to militarily threaten Russia and China simultaneously over the short, medium and long term. And in the US the matter is complicated by military procurement being a matter of politics. Components are produced all over the country to secure congressional votes for DoD budgets, meaning that production is heavily dependent on supply chains and inefficient. Unless a president nationalized and controlled the process, it's not going to change. Not to mention that the entire system is built to be as inefficient (and hence profitable for contractors) as possible.

Posted by: Lex | Apr 27 2022 17:41 utc | 112

I just noticed, in that Starfighters clip, right at the start, they mock the title as "The Sean Penn Story" (he being famous back then for attacking his then-wife, Madonna). So Penn was already promoting arms for the Ukes!

Posted by: James J O'Meara | Apr 27 2022 17:41 utc | 113

Thousands of Turkish militants, mercenaries and nationalists arrived in Ukraine.

After regular negotiations between the presidents of Ukraine and Turkey, it became known that, in addition to strike and reconnaissance drones, thousands of militants and nationalists from Turkey, called the Gray Wolves, arrived in Ukraine. Information on this subject is provided by Russian journalists of the WarGonzo project.



“The participation of Turkish far-right nationalists in the hostilities on the territory of Ukraine is also confirmed by our interlocutors, who have access to radio intercepts. The first information about the arrival of 3000 "gray wolves" to the Ukrainian-Polish border appeared about ten days ago, but only now we have learned that they have already been transferred to the Kharkov and Odessa-Nikolaev directions (three detachments of thousands of fighters were broken). Convoys with Turkish militants passed through Zhmerenka - along with heavy equipment and artillery ", - reports the project "WarGonzo".

The Turkish side has not yet commented on the current information, however, it is quite remarkable that the nationalists who arrived from Turkey can use modern weapons in order to prevent a new phase of the Russian special operation in the Donbass.

At the same time, it is fair to say that at the moment there is no documentary evidence that Turkish nationalists were transferred to the Kharkiv region.

https://avia-pro.net/news/tysyachi-tureckih-boevikov-i-nacionalistov-serye-volki-perebrosheny-na-ukrainu

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 17:42 utc | 114

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 27 2022 16:30 utc | 91

Ruble @ 73.5. Does someone know which side is winning?

The EU is working on "sixth time is a charm"- a sixth round of sanctions. Any wager on how high this number will get before they give up? Will ten years from now we be on round 12,000?

Posted by: Seer | Apr 27 2022 17:51 utc | 115

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 27 2022 17:38 utc | 112

What they used to call Route 3 from Vegas through Mora up U. S. Hill is closed. I think the road from Cimarron up to Eagle's Nest and Angel Fire is closed.

It's funny to hear about Ocate again as well. As a lawyer who had just passed the bar, two of my first clients were from Ocate. They were accused of burro rustling.

Posted by: Henry Moon Pie | Apr 27 2022 18:00 utc | 116

Kim@115...they have to marshal somewhere, they just cant show up and head off to war, they need coordination. From a Russian perspective, getting rid of garbage they couldn't take out in Syria, might be too good a target. Not like Turkish will not stand out over the comms channels. Still surprised some hmmm, accident hasn't happened at the Baktyar drone plant in Turkey.........Mr Putin did say something about 'platforms', he's not winning hearts and minds allowing the dribble of drone attrition to accumulate on Russian territory. He needs to find his inner Nuland....f u Turkey.

Cheers M

No chips for cars, manufacturing is way down.....no shortage of chips for attack drones.....hmmm? Is that where the inventory went?

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 27 2022 18:02 utc | 117

Posted by: James J O'Meara | Apr 27 2022 17:36 utc | 109

god that was awful. funny as hell.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 27 2022 18:04 utc | 118

Our local scrap-metal dealer told my brother that prices was sky-rocketing at the moment. He suggested it would be so much in may, my bro could make a hefty profit scrapping his old unused excavator.
That's something - at least for the local environment. And my hard-working little brother.

When peace comes to Ukraine again - there will be a lot of competition. Trickle economics, indeed.

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 27 2022 18:08 utc | 119

karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 17:26 utc | 106

Adding what Lavrov is saying to what has been said by two other Russian officials - it is the Ukrainians them selves who will determine how Ukraine is broken up. Russia has already recognized two pieces. I think there will be more yet.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 18:08 utc | 120

Posted by: Seer | Apr 27 2022 17:51 utc | 116

#-The EU is working on "sixth time is a charm"- a sixth round of sanctions. Any wager on how high this number will get before they give up? Will ten years from now we be on round 12,000?

Doubling down, is what they always do. That's how EU came to be.

Ever read H-G.Wells "The Time Machine"?

https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/reality-honks-back? N.S.Lyons make some good observations.

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 27 2022 18:19 utc | 121

This stuff looks like a dalek...

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Apr 27 2022 18:22 utc | 122

Don Bacon @ 60
Ukrainians are not allowed to enter the US is the point, so the "we’ll also welcome 100,000 Ukrainians to the United States" is Biden BS.

Any admitted are probably going to be from Western Ukraine.

Posted by: circumspect | Apr 27 2022 18:25 utc | 123

John Dowser | Apr 27 2022 17:07 utc | 100
"SAM networks can be interlinked over great distances and compatible with various external feeds. This is the main reason it became a ground war."

I would't call 200-250 sorties per night a ground war. Artillery, aircraft and missiles. Ukraine casualties are very high and Russia casualties are very low. Then in the towns where the nazis have human shields it is a different type of warfare. No doubt the Americans would just bomb the lot, civilians and all.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 18:25 utc | 124

Posted by: Sundial | Apr 27 2022 13:10 utc | 37

Interesting re: Zelensky's fortune. I don't know how popular of a standup comic he was, but US$850M does seem a little high. Probably his main oligarch client.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 18:26 utc | 125

Lex @ 113

It is still possible to hire a welder or a machinist. Or even a mold maker. They will mostly be on the older side. They will want to be paid. They will want to be treated like human beings. Management can’t do either of those things so offshore we go. The good ones will make antique motorcycle parts for friends for cheap or take up luthier work before they will be the sort of worker management fantasizes about.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Apr 27 2022 18:27 utc | 126

Today is the Day of Russian Parliamentarism where Putin meets with members of the Council of Legislators of the Federal Assembly in the Tauride Palace. Putin's talk today focused on events surrounding Ukraine and actions parliamentarians can take. I'll post a few excerpts here and post the entire transcript to the week in review thread for those wanting to read the entire speech, which I suggest.

In this regard, I would like to stress once again that all the tasks of the special military operation launched on February 24 will certainly be fulfilled in order to guarantee peace and security for the residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, the Russian Crimea and our entire country in the historical future.

We must clearly realize that our soldiers and officers have prevented the real danger that is already hanging over our Motherland. With their courage and determination, heroism, they prevented a large-scale conflict that would have unfolded on our territory, but according to other people's scenarios.

The forces that have historically pursued and are pursuing a policy of containing Russia – historically conducted and are conducting, this was the case in ancient times, you know this well why they did it – such an independent, huge country is not needed even by their ideas. They believe that it is a danger to them simply by the fact of its existence. Although this is far from the case, they themselves pose a danger to the whole world.

We remember the barbaric plans of the Nazis against the Soviet people – to drive them away. Remember, huh? Those who are able to work are forced to work, subjecting them to slave labor and slave conditions, and those who are not needed are for the Urals, to the North for extinction. They had it all spelled out in their documents. These are historical documents. We remember that.

We also remember how Western states in the early 1990s and 2000s encouraged terrorists and bandits in the North Caucasus, speculated on the problems of our past, on really problematic issues, on the injustices of the past against entire peoples, including the peoples of the Caucasus. But they did not do this in order to make us better, not at all, but they did it in order to transfer the problems of the past into our life today, in order to stimulate separatist sentiments in our country, ultimately to dismember and destroy it. That's what they did all this for, to drive us into what's called a bear corner. This is what many at all times have sought to do, to do with regard to Russia.

They did not achieve their goal, but they did not accept the fact that they could not do it, that we, despite this onslaught, managed to survive then. Therefore, later they embarked on a massive preparation of an economic war against Russia, step by step using all sorts of pretexts, and sometimes simply without any pretexts, they introduced new sanctions restrictions. By the way, today's plans for "economic strangulation" also failed.

Along with this, the enemies of our country forced the production of a new "geopolitical weapon" – it is not new in fact, but, of course, gave it new strength, a new impetus – relied on Russophobia and neo-Nazis, from year to year brazenly, unceremoniously turned our neighboring country, Ukraine, into "anti-Russia". [My Emphasis]

Again, I point to Putin's declaration that "all the tasks" to secure Russia's future "will certainly be fulfilled;" and those tasks were published last December. Everyone noted then the huge, seemingly impossible task, or rolling NATO back to its 1997 status as that's where it must be for Russia's security to be secured. We now see NATO moving in a manner that will help Russia with that task. It is this speech where the soundbite now circulating came from:

"But what I would like to note and say now. I already spoke about this at the very beginning of the special military operation. I would like to stress once again that if someone intends to interfere with the ongoing events from the outside and creates strategic threats unacceptable to Russia, they should know that our retaliatory strikes will be lightning-fast and fast. We have all the tools for this, such that no one can boast of now. And we will not boast, we will use them if necessary. And I want everyone to know about this, all the decisions we have made in this regard." [My Emphasis]

NATO is clearly interfering. IMO, Putin repeated his warning because some "tools" are about to be employed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 18:27 utc | 127

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 18:25 utc | 125

It is also a fact that Nato does not possess anywhere enough Long range artillery needed in a battle with Russia.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 18:32 utc | 128

@115 Kim

Am I missing something with regards to the term "far-right nationalism," consistently being uttered here and at pro-Russian outlets ad nauseum?

Is there something lost in translation with regards to the term?

Because it seems to me that the "far-right nationalists" in Ukraine, which take international and globalist weaponry and money are really doing their bidding, contrary to what those Azov imbeciles might believe.

Now we have Turkish mercenaries travelling internationally to wage war on behalf of the globalist west being called "far-right nationalists" as well.

In both instances, the term is used but its corresponding signified show no resemblance to true nationalists whatsoever.

There must be something lost in translation, here.

Is Russia still trying to use archaic terminology to frame the situation to try to win the PR-war with the west? My goodness! Goebbels would be laughing himself silly at the thought of Russian descriptors of the opposing-side.

Putin, the cat is out of the bag now and you don't have to keep trying to impress the west by fighting imaginary nazis.

Swastika-tatooed globalists are still globalists, sir, and the west thoroughly hates you. Time to call a spade a spade.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 18:37 utc | 129

Posted by: juliania | Apr 27 2022 15:03 utc | 69

He's probably gotten lucky with regard to rust on salvage parts kept outdoors. Salvage yards immediately strip most of the electrical components and other sensitive parts from cars and store them inside their warehouse (I've purchased parts from more salvage yards than most*). Even in the desert Southwest and high desert Southwest of Albuquerque/Santa Fe/Las Vegas, NM parts left on the vehicle chassis and outdoors are prone to rust after it rains, just a lot less than in extra rainy environments. My guess is that in places like the Pacific NW and North- and Southeastern seaboard as well as the SE in general probably keep more of their salvage chassis indoors or under shelter to protect against rusting, especially where salt is used to de-ice the roads.

In any case, New Mexico is one of the most subtly beautiful states and I love Santa Fe northwards to the Colorado border. Wish I could afford to live there.

*During the 90s when I was a broke college student, salvage yards were the only way I could afford to fix my cars when they broke down. I also worked at several dealer auto shops and they were known to comb the yards as well to dupe customers who thought they were getting new parts.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 18:38 utc | 130

Posted by: Seer | Apr 27 2022 17:51 utc | 116

The EU seems bent on economic suicide for its working classes, all in service to USUKNATO, Wall Street and The City. If it was Uncle Scam's aim to prevent nationalism and hyper-nationalism from emerging in Europe, I can see their plans backfiring....AGAIN. Almost like it's a feature and not a bug.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 18:41 utc | 131

@130 addendum

Perhaps there is such a breadth of understanding of the world between Putin, Lavrov, and Medvedev and the rest of Russia's gov't and leadership that they can not possibly keep up with the statesmanship of the three?

I am reminded of Putin's long table leading to various monitors of figures in his cabinet and where he sits alone dictating to them.

Is it Putin's fault or his subordinates that they can not hope to win the propaganda war?

It is such a huge discussion to be had around a notoriously taciturn subject such as Putin.

It certainly makes you think. Perhaps that is what he is aiming at? But why the shit propaganda?

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 18:50 utc | 132

Regarding the Taibbi TK video satirizing the unstated conflicts of interest by Panetta et.al. there are several mentions of S300 by American "defense" profiteers. Does the US also manufacture S300s? Is it the same system Russia makes and has 'upgraded' to S400?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 18:57 utc | 133

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 18:37 utc | 130

Agree,even though these were not Putins words,they match the definition of the SMO operation of de-nazification of Ukraine for Russian public purposes.
And we can be sure,these Turkish militants did not turn up in Ukraine without the "Economic" aid provided to the Ukraine by Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 18:58 utc | 134

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 27 2022 11:27 utc | 15:

Reapplying for NATO membership??? When did USA ever committed to denying Ukraine admission into NATO? Actually, even if the Empire has on record of saying Ukraine would not be allowed into NATO, how would anyone trust the Empire to abide by its words? Having we all learned enough in the past half century or so? May be even longer than that, but I'm not informed enough (or attentive enough) on these histories.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 27 2022 19:00 utc | 135

Zelensky’s 850 million fortune? That’s simple he has the best performing contract ever - $ million per day since taking on the star role - count the days. Qed.

And these ‘Turkish’ mercenaries? So now we know how the remaining head choppers of Syria are to be disposed - to enrich the black earth of Ukraine with unfettered Russian firepower.
Smuggled into Poland and over the border straight to some killing zone? Transnistra may figure. They’ll be mostly Uighers with Turkish passports.
It seems Erdo may have finally been persuaded there is no more rope left in Idlib.
That just leaves the illegal Yankees and pirates in Iraq/Syria - they must realise that as proxy warriors they are within easy reach of demonstrated missile tech now.
Run rabbits. Run while you can.

Get out of dollar holdings now dear investors - that’s pretty much every fund!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 27 2022 19:00 utc | 136

I think Putin is weak and/or clueless, he doesn't understand (or under estimates) the "collective west" neo-Con's war lunatics are hell bend on (nuclear) war in Europe with the goal the destruction and balkanization of Russia.

Posted by: Hannibal | Apr 27 2022 19:05 utc | 137

The Zionist media hated Trump and his supporters in the same rabid, bloodthirsty way that they hate Russia. Why do they hate MAGA? Is it because Trump and his supporters are intelligent, honest, hardworking people who have little tolerance for corruption and are willing to fight to change the system? Is the demise of CNN and Twitter as a liberal totalitarian platform a harbinger of a mass media “Masada” where they will soon die on a hill rather than surrender to reality?

Posted by: Obamavirus | Apr 27 2022 19:07 utc | 138

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 18:50 utc | 133

Why does Russia need Propaganda,when it has already stated, its clear objectives of its SMO in Ukraine,which it will complete,whether the West likes it or not.
What matters are the results on the ground in the operation,the rest of the bullshit from the West will then become meaning less and they will be forced to deal with the facts handed back to them.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 19:13 utc | 139

I see we have more fools failing to properly interpret Putin. Try reading what he says might be a really good place to educate yourselves!!!!!!! In fact, I just finished building another article around today's speech that completely trashes the above crapola, "Putin: Many Have Tried to Destroy Russia, But They failed and Will Fail Again."

You all ought to read Grieved's comment about the Patrushev interview he made at the tail end of the week in review thread, for it has a lesson for many.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 19:24 utc | 140

Kim @140--

Thanks for your words of reason!!!!

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 19:25 utc | 141

@Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 27 2022 13:17 utc | 39

The Russians have to plan for every possible Western provocation/aggression given the inability of the West to backdown, so better to hold back the vast majority of the Russian armed forces knowing that what they have put into combat will win slowly but surely given the destruction of the Ukrainian air/command structure/resupply/artillery capabilities so far. The bordering nations need to understand the majority of the might of the Russian army is still available to teach them a very nasty lesson if they get insolent and take the US bribes.

@Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 14:34 utc | 61

The standard rule is that populations support their government when fighting enemies, especially when the threat is seen as existential. US and UK bomber commands learnt this painfully wrt Germany in WW2, and the Japanese population did not buckle under the US firebombing. Seems the US/Western elites need to relearn the same lesson over and over and over again, just to unlearn it again.

With respect to Transnistria, the Ukies will need every man they have when the Russian offence toward Odessa really gets going. Splitting their forces to try to take Transnistria is very stupid, plus the 5,000+ Transnistria army can hold out for a long time given Russian air, missile and artillery support. In extremis they can also blow up the ammunition dump. Moldova will become an immediate Russian target if it enters the war, and the Russian response should be an overwhelming air and missile barrage - Moldova would be committing national suicide. This shows more the desperation of the Ukies/West than any rational planning.

Christoforou has a good daily update about the gas situation etc. He talks while walking around Cyrpus (he is usually in Athens), both informative and relaxing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc6_q75teAM

Posted by: Roger | Apr 27 2022 19:28 utc | 142

Macabre claim by a Ukrainian "blogger" to be cooking and eating dead Russian soldiers and using their bones for fashioning knife handles.

https://twitter.com/antiwar_soldier/status/1519338274673803265

Proceed at your own risk. Probably full of shit...

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 19:29 utc | 143

Yes, karlof1, I am foolish because I don't get Putin when he says he is going after Nazis when he is infact going after the western-globalist arrangement.

I don't disagree with his actions, but I want him to dispense with the archaic terminology.

But he will not.

Like it or not, he is still trying to woo Europe from the west, even after all of this.

Again, I am not here to denigrate his actions. I AGREE WITH THEM. I am here for truth, because that is what I care about most.

We are not yet to bald-face truth.

If there could ever be a war fought with equal parts bloodshed as diplomacy, this would be it.

It is brand new. But it seems that Putin can not or will not articulate it as such.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 19:35 utc | 144

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 18:57 utc | 134

Tom,the S 400 system has been around since 2007-08.

Keep with the program with this;

What is the S500 missile system?
Also known as the 55R6m “Triumfator-M ”, the S-500 Prometey (‘Prometheus’ in Russian) is a surface-to-air/anti-ballistic missile system designed and developed by the Almaz-Antey Air Defence Concern. It has been specifically created by the Russian firm to replace the A-13 missile system currently in use and to supplement the S-400.

The S-500s will work in tandem with the S-400s, with the first units being deployed around Moscow and Central Russia. There will also be a naval version of the S500 which will be the likely armament of the Lider-class destroyer.

The S-500 regiment appeared first on combat duty in Moscow on 13 October 2021.

Design of the S500 Missile System
The S-500 primary design function is to intercept and destroy intercontinental ballistic missiles in mid-air. It is also designed to intercept hypersonic cruise missiles and aircraft for air defence and Airborne Early Warning and Control (AWACS) aircraft.

Some other design facts for the S500 are as follows:

The planned range of the anti-ballistic is expected to be between 500 and 600 km
The anti-ballistic missile would be able to detect and simultaneously engage 10 hypersonic targets at a speed of 5 kilometres per seconds
It is designed to destroy hypersonic cruise missiles and other airborne targets at speeds of higher than Mach 5
The S500 can target aircrafts at altitudes of 180-200 km
It is effective against ballistic missiles with a launch range of 3,500 km; the radar reaches a radius of 3,000 km.
It is also capable of targeting unmanned aerial vehicles, satellites in low orbits and even space weapons launched from high orbit.
The S500 will have rapid deployment capability through its mobile system.
Its response time is at 4 seconds or less as compared to S-400 whose response time is at 10 seconds

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 19:36 utc | 145

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 19:36 utc | 146

Thanks for the explanation. What triggered my question to begin with (in addition to the youtube vid shared by debsisdead and james) was this article from Patrick Lawrence.

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/04/27/patrick-lawrence-ukraine-the-strength-of-nonalignment/

The biggest pebble in the Pentagon’s shoe is India’s agreement to purchase the Russian-made S–400 missile-defense system, which must be some piece of gear considering that Washington is unfailingly inflamed whenever anybody buys it.

Whereas I was pretty sure the video with Panetta and the rest they talked about selling Ukraine S-300s and/or S-400s, but I could be wrong on the latter. Either way, does the US MIC community make and sell any of these S-X00 missile/air defense systems?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 19:41 utc | 146

Kim@140

Nemesis objects to the criticism of fascist groups-such as the Grey Wolves. He believes that Nationalists and Globalists have diametrically opposed objectives.
He is wrong, the Grey wolves and Turkish nationalists generally are looking greedily at Russian territory, much of which came from the Ottomans in the C18th (it came to them in the C16th), like hyenas. They are praying that the Empire wakens Russia enough that they can start reclaiming the conquered regions that Catherine and other Tsars took from them.
That was the significance of Kazakhstan a few weeks ago. It was what the Azeri-Armenian war was about too.
Most nationalist groups, including the UKrainian fascists, share the perspectives of the Grey Wolves in this respect: they support the imperialists because the Empire promotes chaos. And this political scum wallows in chaos, blood and terror.
Nemesis knows better: we have just seen forty years in which the wahhabi, theoretically opposed to the West in all its works, its religions and its culture, have acted as the shock troops of Empire. Behind their sunni fundamentalism there has always been American money, arms, training, air power.
The problem with 'right wing' Nationalists is that their primary loyalty is to the status quo, the capitalist system and the exploitation of the vulnerable.
That is what the history of European Fascism teaches.
Look at today. Here is an excerpt from a new book by David de Jong: Nazi Billionaires: The Dark History of Germany's Wealthiest Dynasties.

"...On Monday, February 20, 1933, at 6 p.m., about two dozen of Nazi Germany’s wealthiest and most influential businessmen arrived, on foot or by chauffeured car, to attend a meeting at the official residence of the Reichstag president, Hermann Göring, in the heart of Berlin’s government and business district. The attendees included Günther Quandt, a textile producer turned arms-and-battery tycoon; Friedrich Flick, a steel magnate; Baron August von Finck, a Bavarian finance mogul; Kurt Schmitt, CEO of the insurance behemoth Allianz; executives from the chemicals conglomerate IG Farben and the potash giant Wintershall; and Gustav Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach, chairman-through-marriage of the Krupp steel empire.

"The purpose of that meeting was not to sell big business on anti-semitism, Hitler’s plans for world conquest, or the Holocaust. Hitler’s regime as we now know it was not up for for debate. The purpose of the meeting was to raise money with which to end German democracy.

“Private enterprise cannot be maintained in the age of democracy,” the forty-three-year-old chancellor said. “It is conceivable only if the people have a sound idea of authority and personality. Everything positive, good and valuable, which has been achieved in the world in the field of economics and culture, is solely attributable to the importance of personality.”

What Hitler and his movement needed was money with which to win the election of March 5 1933. It was to be a decisive vote.

“the last election,” according to Hitler. One way or another, democracy would fall. Germany’s new chancellor intended to dissolve it entirely and replace it with a dictatorship. “Regardless of the outcome,” he warned, “there would be no retreat . . . There are only two possibilities, either to crowd back the opponent on constitutional grounds . . . or a struggle will be conducted with other weapons, which may demand greater sacrifices.” If the election didn’t bring Hitler’s party into control, a civil war between the right and the left would certainly erupt, he intimated. Hitler waxed poetic: “I hope the German people recognize the greatness of the hour. It shall decide the next ten or probably even hundred years.”

What Hitler, Goering and Schacht had in mind was a fund equivalent to $20 million in today’s money with which to win the election and end Germany democracy. They had no problem raising the funds.

The day after the meeting, February 21, 1933, thirty-five-year-old Joseph Goebbels, who led the Nazi propaganda machine from Berlin as the capital’s Gauleiter (regional leader), wrote in his diary: “Göring brings the joyful news that 3 million is available for the election. Great thing! I immediately alert the whole propaganda department. And one hour later, the machines rattle. Now we will turn on an election campaign . . . Today the work is fun. The money is there.”

Hitler summed up the essence of 'right wing nationalism' very succinctly
"Private enterprise cannot be maintained in the age of democracy,” the forty-three-year-old chancellor said."

Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:48 utc | 147

Imitating El Salvador, bitcoin has become the official currency legalized in CAR along with CFA franc.

savvy.

Posted by: sln2002 | Apr 27 2022 19:50 utc | 148

"Look at today's Chartbook from Adam Tooze." That was the source of the excerpt above.
The usual typos too but nobody is perfect.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:51 utc | 149

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2022 19:41 utc | 147

Tom,the S 300,400,500 are produced by the Russians.I am not sure if the west has the equivalent of the 400.
It is also interesting to note the potential change in Geo-politics with this offer.

In March 2022, the Russian Ambassador in India, Denis Alipov, announced to the Russian Media that the Russian government is open to selling its newest missile systems – the S500 to India should the latter express interest.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 19:54 utc | 150

@148 bevin

Couldn't disagree with you more re: the motivations of nationalists.

Did you read that essay I linked to you about Germany pre-empting a Soviet Incvasipn into Europe. I never got a comment back from you about that.

...

What you are referring to wrt the Wahabbis and now with the Turks are those working for their own future imperial projects. The Wahabbis tried to subjugate surrounding territories.

The Turks now seek the same in anticipation of a resurgent Ottoman Empire.

These are not Nationalists!

They may themselves be assisting the greater Imperial Empire of the west, but in their heart of hearts, they know they are working for the future of their own mini-empires which will probably emerge once the dust has settled on western unipolarity.

Spheres of influence will really be the MO of the new multipolar world.

Do the Turks think their lot would be better in assisting the West currently against Russia?

Probably.

Remember: Russia cockblocked them in Syria hard and Russia has always looked for a negotiated settlement between the disparate nations in the region.

Are you listening, Bevin? "NATIONS."

Putin is ever the nationalist, IOW.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 20:10 utc | 151

Kherson City, in Kherson Oblast, is north of Crimea. Kherson was occupied by the Russian army on March 3, with Russians in the Oblast Regional Council. Above the abandoned administrative buildings fly Russian flags.
On the third day of the occupation, Russian television began broadcasting in the Kherson region. Those with a TV connection through an antenna can still access Ukrainian channels. The city-based media outlets effectively ceased their work. The citizens now get their information through various independently run Telegram channels.
Russia's objective is to form a "Kherson People’s Republic”—along the lines of the LNR (Lugansk) and the DNR (Donetsk). A vote was scheduled for today, April 27. Here is CNN's take on the happenings, not favorable to Russia of course (it's the law).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2022 20:14 utc | 152

Kim | Apr 27 2022 19:54 utc | 151

The interesting part about those systems also the S-350 - there are various modifications and versions - they will each have a specialty that they are designed for but can also be used against a range of secondary targets including ground targets.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 20:14 utc | 153

Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:48 utc | 148

Thanks for the great post.

I am aware of the Turks desires to gain territory in the north.so does Russia.The term Nationalists and Nazi are well understood and easy to convey in heartland Russia verses globalists in support of Russian military objectives.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 20:17 utc | 154

Don Bacon | Apr 27 2022 20:14 utc | 153

Don, there may be some tiny pieces of information in that article but its like wading through a sewer to find it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 20:18 utc | 155

Hitler summed up the essence of 'right wing nationalism' very succinctly "Private enterprise cannot be maintained in the age of democracy,” the forty-three-year-old chancellor said.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:48 utc | 148

Clearly the lesson learned by America and other regimes was that if enough money is available for propaganda there is no need to do away with "Democracy in Name Only"

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 27 2022 20:20 utc | 156

Is Zelinski on Russia's payroll?
Zelinski is asking the USA and Europe to deplete their weapons and send billions of dollars monthly to 'save' Ukraine.
In view of the systematic destruction of the weapons sent and the disappearance of the money, one must wonders if Zelinski is not paid to weaken the USA and empoverish Europe....

Posted by: Virgile | Apr 27 2022 20:28 utc | 157

. . .On Poland, from AP
The gas cutoff to Poland and Bulgaria came after Russian President Vladimir Putin said that “unfriendly” countries would need to start paying for gas in rubles, Russia’s currency, which Bulgaria and Poland refused to do.
Russian energy giant Gazprom said in a statement that it hadn’t received any payments from Poland and Bulgaria since April 1 and was suspending their deliveries starting Wednesday. And if those countries siphon off Russian gas intended for other European customers, Gazprom said deliveries to Europe will be reduced by that amount.
Poland announced new sanctions against Russia yesterday, targeting 50 Russian oligarchs and companies, including Gazprom. Hours later, Poland said it had received notice that Gazprom was cutting off its gas supplies for failing to pay in Russian rubles. Poland’s gas company, PGNiG, said the gas supplies from the Yamal pipeline stopped early today.
Poland relies on coal for 70% of its energy needs, with gas only making up around 7% of its energy mix. Several years ago, the country opened its first terminal for liquefied natural gas, or LNG, in Swinoujscie, on the Baltic Sea coast. A pipeline from Norway is to due to start operating this year.
Bulgarian Prime Minister Kiril Petkov, whose government has been cutting many of the country’s old ties with Russia, called Gazprom’s suspension of gas deliveries “a gross violation of their contract” and “blackmail.” He vowed to defend the country’s interests and “support military-technical assistance to Ukraine.” . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2022 20:29 utc | 158

@ Hannibal | Apr 27 2022 19:05 utc | 138

You seem to be in the same camp as Paul Craig Roberts on that matter. You seem to believe that simply because right is on your side you will win the conflict. Sadly, while that approach works in the movies, it doesn't work in reality.

How many times do I have to say this? The RF cannot win a conventional war against the whole of NATO, therefore the RF is in no hurry to make NATO involvement 'official'. We are dealing with a race against time. In the west our deranged, inbred Bankster overlords are busily manufacturing consent for full scale NATO involvement, until that happens the RF can still make headway on the battlefield and hope that something will give way in the NATO camp. As soon as NATO is involved in earnest and strategic attacks against Russian soil begin, the Russians will have to put the nuclear question to the west. Nobody in their right mind would want to hasten that day.

Posted by: MarkU | Apr 27 2022 20:29 utc | 159

Obamavirus @ 139 said;

"The Zionist media hated Trump and his supporters in the same rabid, bloodthirsty way that they hate Russia. Why do they hate MAGA? Is it because Trump and his supporters are intelligent, honest, hardworking people who have little tolerance for corruption and are willing to fight to change the system? Is the demise of CNN and Twitter as a liberal totalitarian platform a harbinger of a mass media “Masada” where they will soon die on a hill rather than surrender to reality?"

Christ almighty, what the hell drugs are you on? With that kinda' character judgement you should self-isolate.

Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 27 2022 20:33 utc | 160

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 20:14 utc | 154

Hi Peter,yes it's a foregone conclusion that these will become linked,pre-programmed, software adjustable, plug and play systems.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 20:33 utc | 161

@152 addendum to my post directed at Bevin

I would further argue that the countries attempting to fend off neo-Ottoman intrusion into their territory in the new paradigm to come would be better candidates for the term "Nationalist" than any Turk could be now or later.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 20:35 utc | 162

bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:48 utc | 148

From what I can see, anyone foolish enough to take up ad extremist ideology or region can be used by the anglo empire. Turkish nationalism - as we have seen in Syria and elsewhere is fellow travelers with the likes of ISIS ad AQ, Ukraine nationalism with big input from Nazi Germany - allied with nazi Germany I think eve before the outbreak of war..

This nemisis clown... I guess he has ever bothered to look at some of the shit posted on Ukraine social media or the photographs and video of overrun neo-nazi strongholds in Ukraine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 20:36 utc | 163

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 19:24 utc | 141

Isn't it time to grow up and realize that other people can have a different perspective from you, and arrive at other conclusions than you do while looking at the same facts, without necessarily being simply "ignorant" or having missed the post where you lay out what is actually going on in Putin's head, or in the Kremlin, or whatever? Literally every "response" I see from you to a divergent opinion is a variant of "I see we have ignorant people in the thread" and "I've already explained this in one of my posts".

Believing, as in this case, that you and only "properly interprets Putin" is incredibly childish. Obviously none of us can read his mind and therefore be sure that we are "properly interpreting him", but neither can you.

Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 27 2022 20:37 utc | 164

James #23

YES what is needed is EUXIT right now and the realisation that an excellent economic future free from economic destabilisation can be achieved from ditching the ukusa clowns.

That should be the objective of Australia too, sigh.

On gas... I see the natonazis are refusing to pay in rubles and the tap is OFF. Perhaps bullion will be easier in that case.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 27 2022 20:38 utc | 165

P.S. @ 161

"Twitter as a liberal totalitarian platform"

Twitter is a corporate platform. Nothing liberal about it.

Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 27 2022 20:39 utc | 166

@Peter U1 156
. . . like wading through a sewer
I thought it was a wonderful example of a newsie hit job, totally biased toward government positions, both US and Ukraine, and no mention that any opposition to the Ukraine government might exist. . It's what Blinken would have said, IOW. . .Let's all love our governments, and so what if they are neo-Nazis. . .Journalism at its worst.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2022 20:39 utc | 167

To Russia with love,

Make Lviv, not war.

That’s where all the cowards and the arriving amo are.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 27 2022 20:41 utc | 168

Unnamed | Apr 27 2022 20:37 utc | 165

There is fact, fiction, and projection - not to mention little dick syndrome.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 20:44 utc | 169

@164 Peter

These imbeciles are useful tools of empire.

The fact they believe themselves to be nationalists is not proof they actually are.

They are victims of their own propaganda and, in my approximation, Jewish interests have a lot to do with the current cluster**** there.

Are you aging leftists ready to acknowledge that, yet? No. Oh well.

Nationalists fighting for globalist Jews. Not a very good nationalist, IMHO.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 20:48 utc | 170

Don Bacon | Apr 27 2022 20:29 utc | 159

Darn! Hurry With Embargo Before Gazprom Cuts Delivery

The challenge is not springtime ... the seasons turn slowly but surely and gas price of LNG transport will sharply rise ... Europe has to outbid Asia in the Fall. In seven months cold Winter will come knocking. Only Hungary and Serbia have signed long-term contracts with Gazprom. Will US special forces blow-up the gas transport pipelines?

Poland Surges Towards Energy Sovereignty | Dec 21st, 2021 |

Putin just trying to be helpful where Old and New are divided on timeline cutting Russian gas delivery ...
Von Der Leyen as our next SG of NATO? She has my vote ... good riddance

Poland's post-Gazprom supply conundrum | ICIS - Feb. 15, 2021 |

Delays to US LNG project funding and the restart of Danish gas production may leave Poland more exposed to the spot market from 2023 than initially intended.

State-owned supplier PGNiG's 26 year-long Yamal pipeline supply contract with Russian producer Gazprom expires in the end of next year.

PGNiG is Poland's largest oil and gas company, dominating the industry from exploration to storage as well as transmission and trading.

In 2017, PGNiG booked enough capacity on the pipeline to replace 80% of volumes currently supplied by Russia.

Unforeseen delay … Danish local bat and mice populations causes delay in Baltic pipeline ...

Baltic Pipe delay to push Poland back into Russia's arms | Deutsche Welle - July 23, 2021 |

Posted by: Oui | Apr 27 2022 20:49 utc | 171

Anyone else having problems viewing IntelSlava-Z Telegram videos today?

Posted by: HD | Apr 27 2022 20:55 utc | 172

@Posted by: SailorsWife | Apr 27 2022 17:37 utc | 110

"After Sec. Austin and Sec. Blinken's visit, ex-Secretary Rice says is clearly, and more... A Conversation about Russian Sanctions and the Future of Sanctions"

Thanks for that recording of the US Mafia consiglieres meeting to see how best they serve their bosses to discipline those that won't pay the protection money and kiss the ring. I forgot how awful Condaleeza Rice really is .... Also, the utter delusion with the "plucky Ukrainians", they are drinking their own Koolaid.

Its obvious that the sanctions regime was not properly planned and this is a long war to "weaken Russia". Interesting to see their meeting after the Russian victory and a rejuvenated Russia, together with the inevitable financial and economic crash in the West. Followed by the US internecine political war after the Repubs destroy the Dems in the mid-terms.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 27 2022 20:55 utc | 173

Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 27 2022 20:37 utc | 165

There are the kinds of people that think they know all the facts, that think they have the capability to objectively know what happened to objectively observe reality, that even think they can read somebodies mind such as in the case of Putin.

I suspect this is actually a pretty narcissistic tendency with a lot of borderline aspect where something is either to one side of a line or the other side of a line, either black or white. For them everything gets reduced to a childish cowboys and indians cartoon really.

This in my view narcissistic borderline attitude that also comes with anti social tendencies is completely prevalent in western culture, it has been like that for hundredths of years, somehow we were always the good people here in the west, the morally right people, even when we were colonizers all over the world, trading slaves and what not, that was and is the narcissistic self image that we had and have of ourselves and our culture an a certain point in time.

We in the west always seem to have a self image with "high moral values" and are somehow "better" then the rest of the world, in our minds we are always that "shining city on the hill"

Now these "high moral values" have changed and even dramatically changed through time and are now sometimes even the complete opposite of what they used to be in the past, but still, we are morally right, we are the good people, they are wrong and the bad people and we are on a mission in the world, to shape the world in our image. To make things better and everyone that opposes us is either evil or stupid or misinformed.

Posted by: Jimmy | Apr 27 2022 20:57 utc | 174

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 27 2022 20:29 utc | 159

Good to see,some of the die-hard shit stirrers taps being turned off.And a reality, political fracture taking shape within the European Economic Community, slowly being applied by Russia.

Posted by: Kim | Apr 27 2022 20:59 utc | 175

Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:48 utc | 148

„He believes that Nationalists and Globalists have diametrically opposed objectives.
He is wrong, the Grey wolves and Turkish nationalists generally are looking greedily at Russian territory (…). They are praying that the Empire wakens Russia enough that they can start reclaiming the conquered regions that Catherine and other Tsars took from them.
That was the significance of Kazakhstan a few weeks ago. It was what the Azeri-Armenian war was about too.“

This is a good point. I don’t agree to Nemesis, as nationalism and imperialism is no contradiction! Even the US‘s globalism is nationalism.

The question is, what China’s and Russia‘s nationalism will look like? We don’t know. Some people say: the Chinese are no imperialists, but traders. Dominating the world without looting, colonalzing and devastating it? This is what we hope, don’t we?

Posted by: njet | Apr 27 2022 21:03 utc | 176

@Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2022 19:48 utc | 148

Concidentally with the full support by the whole West for a nazi regime in Ukraine which has passed unleashing death squads on Ukrainian citizens for the past 8 years, in a high level monetary meeting which took place this past day, concurring IMF Georgieva ( who stated "they did not know that there would be such a risk of stuffing so much the derivatives bubble"..) FR Yellen, and ECB Lagarde, amongst others, Lagarde stated that "democracy has reached its limits"....

As we are full into a banking/corporate dictatorship, well, I guess no more si needed to understand...

Of course, if the people did not notice what was happening during the past two years, how an estimated of 150 millions of Europeans ( by Von der Liar estimates and who she wants to make something with...) were labeled subhuman and stripped of all their rights, they are for a rude awakening...

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 27 2022 21:06 utc | 177

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 27 2022 21:06 utc | 178

Do you have a link to where Georgieva refers to "stuffing the derivatives bubble"? That is an intriguing statement. (So is of course the one about democracy having "reached its limits".)

Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 27 2022 21:10 utc | 178

Ukraine's chief export will soon be scrap iron. All that hand me down crap will be bits and pieces everywhere.

Reports From Ukraine - A collection of reports from the field

Posted by: Will | Apr 27 2022 21:12 utc | 179

@177 njet

As an American, I can tell that we are definitely behind an iron curtain of info.

But, trust me, there is no pride in anything the empire has done in the last 30 years.

No one I know of ever mentions Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, etc., etc.

We are a country of lazy, uneducated and thoroughly colonized-minds.

It is truly pitiful the feeling I get when I look at my fellow in the workplace or at church, etc., etc.

At church, during the first week, our Priest had a prayer of intention for the people of Ukraine.

The next week, nothing.

And nothing since.

There is no nationalist fervor in my country. NONE.

The only Nationalist-sentiment I detect in my country is from the dissident-right who are increasingly, since DJt, calling the globalists by name.

That is my hope for this country: the dissident right.

Barring them, an economic collapse, which will certainly catapult us into power. One way or another, we will defeat the globalists.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 21:12 utc | 180

NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 20:48 utc | 171

I had to laugh at that one. Leftist.. :)

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 21:19 utc | 181

Nemesis, and there is no american exceptionalism, no racism and no MAGA, right?

Posted by: njet | Apr 27 2022 21:24 utc | 182

Oui | Apr 27 2022 20:49 utc | 172 "Delays to US LNG project funding and the restart of Danish gas production may leave Poland more exposed to the spot market from 2023 than initially intended."

The story of the sanctions from hell. The fools should have entrusted them to a reliable courier service rather than taping them to a boomerang and throwing it at Russia.

Satire in real time.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 21:29 utc | 183

On presure and what is going on in Europe and in Ukraine, may be of interest...

"Imagined Geographies of Central and Eastern Europe: The Concept of Intermarium",
by Marlene Laruelle and Ellen Rivera

https://www.illiberalism.org/imagined-geographies-of-central-and-eastern-europe-the-concept-of-intermarium/

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 27 2022 21:30 utc | 184

Matthew Ehret opines that there's still time for the West to make amends with Russia:

"But time is ticking away, and the doors to a bright future of cooperation close faster with every passing minute. It is thus important to take the opportunity of the anniversary of Elbe Day (April 25) to recall and revive the spirit of U.S.-Russian brotherhood that jointly put down the Nazi machine in WWII and whose joint sacrifices created the possibility for an age of cooperation and brotherhood that even at this late stage may possibly be revived."

That union was only "brotherhood" for the line soldiers that took part. US Military and much of the government were still very much against Russia thanks to the propaganda aimed at smearing it and making people fear for their material goods. Ehret is too good of an historian to miss the overall context, so these sorts of errors he makes are puzzling and hurt his credibility.

Putin and Russia on the other hand are under no such illusions. How do I know this? Well, I read what Putin says, and I also know that there's solidarity within Russia's Security Council and the government as a whole. I'm sure many heads were shaking in agreement when Putin said the following in his speech today:

"We also remember how Western states in the early 1990s and 2000s encouraged terrorists and bandits in the North Caucasus, speculated on the problems of our past, on really problematic issues, on the injustices of the past against entire peoples, including the peoples of the Caucasus. But they did not do this in order to make us better, not at all, but they did it in order to transfer the problems of the past into our life today, in order to stimulate separatist sentiments in our country, ultimately to dismember and destroy it. That's what they did all this for, to drive us into what's called a bear corner. This is what many at all times have sought to do, to do with regard to Russia.

"They did not achieve their goal, but they did not accept the fact that they could not do it, that we, despite this onslaught, managed to survive then. Therefore, later they embarked on a massive preparation of an economic war against Russia, step by step using all sorts of pretexts, and sometimes simply without any pretexts, they introduced new sanctions restrictions. By the way, today's plans for 'economic strangulation' also failed.

"Along with this, the enemies of our country forced the production of a new 'geopolitical weapon' – it is not new in fact, but, of course, gave it new strength, a new impetus – relied on Russophobia and neo-Nazis, from year to year brazenly, unceremoniously turned our neighboring country, Ukraine, into 'anti-Russia'."

Then we have Patrushev's description of the Outlaw US Empire's actions:

"You are talking about a country whose elite is not able to appreciate other people's lives. Americans are used to walking on scorched earth. Since World War II, entire cities have been razed to the ground by bombing, including nuclear bombing. They flooded the Vietnamese jungle with poison, bombed the Serbs with radioactive munitions, burned Iraqis alive with white phosphorus, helped terrorists poison Syrians with chlorine. I do not think that the lives of Ukrainians are of concern to the United States, which has repeatedly proved its aggressive anti-human nature. As history shows, NATO has also never been a defensive alliance, only an offensive one."

Some already know there can only be one positive outcome for the current struggle--NATO's capitulation and dismantling, which would be contextually similar to Germany's WW2 defeat. For me, it's extremely clear that many never bothered to read or listen to Russia or closely examine the West's behavior since 1989. Current events and Russia's attitude cannot be understood without knowing that context. Many don't want to face the reality of their nation's actions being against their own interests; or even worse, that their nation differs little in actions from Hitlerian Germany; that it actively recruits, trains and deploys a Terrorist Foreign Legion and has done so since 1945. Hollywood got one movie line right: "You can't handle the truth."

A very popular rock band, Lynyrd Skynyrd, back in 1974 wrote what would become a huge hit and its primary claim to fame, "Sweet Home Alabama," where it asked if Watergate or your conscious bothered you--the answer being no, you shouldn't care at all or worry about such things. Well, that was one of the most misleading messages of all time, right up there with Gobbelian propaganda.

One of Martyanov's lines is the fact that few know actual warfare and the nonchalant approach many have to the current crisis and the abject failure to show reality. Too many fail to appreciate this crisis is actually a life or death struggle--not just for Russia, but for the West, and also for humanity.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 21:33 utc | 185

"There is no nazis in Ukraine, and moreover his president is a Jew"...

For 70 years successive US governments have dedicated themselves to supporting Ukrainian fascists who collaborated with the Nazis...

America’s Dark History of Supporting Ukrainian Fascists and War Criminals

Seven Decades of Nazi Collaboration: America’s Dirty Little Ukraine Secret

The CIA and “Uncle Louie”. How alleged Ukrainian war criminal Mykola Lebed ended up publishing Agency-funded propaganda in the US

Eagle And Swastika. CIA and Nazi War Criminals and Collaborators

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 27 2022 21:44 utc | 186

@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 21:29 utc | 184

There is a very real problem in getting new LNG terminals (export and import) approved, and that is the need for them to be in use for decades to be able to pay off the large buildout costs which are in the US$billion range or greater depending on the size of the terminal and related infrastructure. In addition, LNG tankers cost in the US$150MM-US$250MM range.

The possibility of climate change policies reducing the usage of natural gas, means that the future flows of income to new natural gas facilities may be deemed extremely questionable by financiers and thus hit with a much larger assumed discount rate (by which future cash flows are discounted to a present value). As LNG is inherently more GHG polluting than pipeline gas given the energy used in liquefaction (about 25%) and transport, it would be hit harder by future carbon taxes. If it was fracked gas even worse given the related fugitive methane emissions.

As each year goes by it will get harder and harder to get financing for LNG terminals, short of outright government subsidies/funding. Europe will be throwing away the usage of in-place infrastructure (Russian pipelines including the new NS2) and have to replace it with highly questionable, if possible, large-scale investments in LNG. Add onto that the possibility of a peak in US fracked gas production and rapidly increasing Asian demand for Middle Eastern and Australian LNG. An incredible waste of money which may leave many unused and none fully depreciated LNG terminals to rot away in the future.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 27 2022 21:46 utc | 187

@183 njet

Your comment betrays a thorough misunderstanding of the current power-politics in the U.S.

As I have said numerous times before: the empire is caught in a pincer right now. Abroad, it is being harrassed by Russia.

At home, its dissident-right is causing headaches and threatening great inroads into the structures of power undergirding the western globalist arrangement.

Do I care if some European thinks my country is racist?

Would the Japanese or Chinese care if you called them racist?

You speak as if ideological milticulturalism and internationalism is the future.

My friend, that shit is DOA.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 21:47 utc | 188

@Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 21:33 utc | 186

I think that Mr. Ehret is a little too optimistic, that train already left the station and the Western elites are far too arrogant and delusional to display such pragmatism and strategic intelligence.

Posted by: Roger | Apr 27 2022 21:50 utc | 189

@Posted by: Unnamed | Apr 27 2022 21:10 utc | 179

LIVE: IMF’s Georgieva, Powell, Lagarde and others discuss global economy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zx-ttF0qn4

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Apr 27 2022 21:54 utc | 190

karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 21:33 utc | 186

What Martyanov constantly emphasizes can now bee seen in videos coming out of Ukraine. Russia's destructive power is enormous though it is only using a very small percentage of that in Ukraine. Those that have been gang pressed into the military in Ukraine truly are cannon fodder in every sense of the word and US just keeps feeding them in.

This what Lira wrote
"The great tragedy is that so many THOUSANDS of young men will die, and die NEEDLESSLY!!, in order to postpone the inevitable. These brave boys will have fought so valiantly - and died so young, so cruelly -because of the evil of the Zelensky regime."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 21:55 utc | 191

Posted by: Man | Apr 27 2022 16:23 utc | 89
"This is not world war 2. Tanks do not play vital role in a war any more."

They do if you have air superiority and the ground is suitable. Russia reconstituted one of its main tank armies for a reason.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 27 2022 17:26 utc | 106
"we proceed from the fact that the citizens of Ukraine themselves will determine their own destiny. It's up to them, not someone else. Ukraine has been under external control for many years. People are tired of it."

Yes, quite evasive. In my view, Russia fully intends to keep Ukraine "under external control" for many more years. It will just be better - and mostly invisible - control. Nominally it will be "democratic" with "free and fair" elections - which, however, will be vetted to insure no ultra-nationalists get back in. Eventually, as the reeducation proceeds and the economy gets better, it may even be able to run on its own.

Note he also didn't say which people are "tired of it."

Posted by: MarkU | Apr 27 2022 20:29 utc | 160
"The RF cannot win a conventional war against the whole of NATO"

Bullcrap. Your "assessment" - if one can call it that - is based on what? The thirty NATO war games which show NATO losing to Russia in every one of them?

"As soon as NATO is involved in earnest and strategic attacks against Russian soil begin, the Russians will have to put the nuclear question to the west. Nobody in their right mind would want to hasten that day."

This part you get right. Russia doesn't want WWIII. Doesn't mean it can't beat NATO in a conventional war. And before you assume a conventional war with NATO has to go nuclear, that might be true, but not if the US intends to sacrifice NATO instead of committing national suicide. Of course, it's quite likely the neocons will miscalculate, as they usually do. But none of that means Russia can't beat NATO if the war stays conventional - and I think it will.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 27 2022 22:03 utc | 192

Roger | Apr 27 2022 21:46 utc | 188

That has been my thought though you spelled it out much better and expanded on it with the emission aspect. My simple reasoning is due to the cost of infrastructure, very long term contracts are required. Nobody will invest without a guarantee when much cheaper gas can be provided at the turn of a tap depending on which way the political winds may blow.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 22:07 utc | 193

That is my hope for this country: the dissident right.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 21:12 utc | 181

I'm on the east coast of SF Bay. Usually when I see something "dissident right", such as a camper-caravan slathered with bloody foetal-photo posters, those folks are visitors from farther east -- other side of the Altamont Pass, like as not. In all the news sources I formerly patronized, centuries-old left-vs-right paradigms are demolished. I can't recognize which is supposed to be which -- not to mention why -- anymore.

The word "nationalism" has been extensively, I think usefully, debated in this thread. Then again, there's something to be said for not getting bogged down in lexical semantics. Karl Popper's work has this unique recommendation: among philosophers, KP is an outlier, refusing to get hung up on definitions. From this philosophical bias, I'm inclined to doubt I can leverage sharpened definitions of "left" and "right" to clarify how we got here or where we're going.

Probably the most well-produced representation of USA's "dissident right" is unz, and the atmosphere is quite putrid out there, you bet! I'll never get accustomed to Anglin's graphically homoerotic/homophobic asides, for instance. Some of those folks were just born weird.

When formerly trusted sources slip away from the light, where do you turn? Like the help-wanted sign or the bodhisatva might say: inquire within. It's not just this war. My whole damn world has been walking a schizophrenic tightrope without a net for years. We start by finding some means of protecting our own mental health and spiritual integrity. If I'm constricting my outlook via some word, it feels like tunnel-vision -- like I'm making things more difficult for myself.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2022 22:20 utc | 194

The Zionist “Biden” regime is rapidly disintegrating before our eyes. They have failed to get a “ war time bounce” in the polls and are losing black, Latino and youth vote. If the Russian SMO can slow itself down and save as many lives as possible , the American voters might end this illegitimate regime from within. A republican congress and senate would most likely move to investigate the democrat party and it’s corrupt connections to Ukraine. We will likely then see how much the zionists have infiltrated and hijacked US foreign policy.

Posted by: Obamavirus | Apr 27 2022 22:29 utc | 195

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2022 22:20 utc | 195

I realized some time ago that words are merely labels, like labels on a bottle, they do not exactly cover what is inside the bottle.

To avoid being hung up on definitions of a word, I often use several words to point at a certain direction.

These days it is very difficult to describe what it politically "the left" and what is politically "the right" Three is an economic left right separation and a cultural left right separation; i.e. conservative vs progressive, but these have also become propaganda buzz words, after all what is wrong with conserving good things in society and what is wrong with progress, but then again what exactly is progress?

Also there are these terms now "far right" or "radical left" but what does that even mean ?, to me these just seem to be disqualifying labels that the mainstream; that support the elite use to disqualify groups of people, like they are outside of the norm ad should be disregarded. These political groups are taboo and joining them will lead to social stigma.

Posted by: Jimmy | Apr 27 2022 22:34 utc | 196

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2022 22:20 utc | 195
Posted by: Jimmy | Apr 27 2022 22:34 utc | 197

Orient yourself around "actions" and "consequences." That will serve you better than socially-derived terms that mean whatever the speaker wants them to mean.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 27 2022 22:38 utc | 197

This what Lira wrote
"The great tragedy is that so many THOUSANDS of young men will die, and die NEEDLESSLY!!, in order to postpone the inevitable. These brave boys will have fought so valiantly - and died so young, so cruelly -because of the evil of the Zelensky regime."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 27 2022 21:55 utc | 192

That's such a sensible and empathetic and humanistical thing to say.

I don't give a flying duck if Gonzo is Red Pill or scammed his business partner or hates LGBT. Right now, his mind and his voice are with the resistance.

BTW, @oldhippie, would be nice if you could bring some investigative journalism on your side to back the Pinochet links that you said he has. Otherwise, give it a rest, please and thanks.

Posted by: Ricardo Ramirez | Apr 27 2022 23:02 utc | 198

NemesisCalling | Apr 27 2022 18:37 utc | 130

NemesisCalling, don't you think the 'Globalists' now were behind the 'Third Reich' back then? There was so much Nazi sympathisers amongst the elites of Europe, UK and USA. It was just that there was stronger democracy in The West in those days that could fight back against the 'globalist elites'.

It seems to me and many others that since 1945, the Globalist Elites regrouped and adopted the long plan. Eventual full control of The West, hollowed out into fake democracies with fake media, rigged elections, all politicians who get any level of power are bought or bribed - as Klaus Schwab boasted that more than half Trudeau's cabinet are former 'Young Global(ist) Leaders' of his WEF.

There is the idea of the 'Fourth Reich'. It has emerged slowly steadily since 1945. JFK took it on and they blew his head off in a public execution. Same with his brother. Le Pen tries to be a new De Gaulle but is easily thwarted by a totally owned system. The OSS became the CIA under Allen Dulles in 1947 and Dulles oversaw 'Operation Paperclip' that imported 1,100 Nazi German scientists to create NASA and DeepState projects but lesser known is hundreds or maybe thousands of Gestapo were also imported to merge with the OSS in creating the CIA.

'Operation Mockingbird' was revealed in Senate hearings in the 1970s to be shown to be in control of the Western Mainstream Media and that control has become total through things like the 'Trusted News Initiative'. Only one narrative is allowed in the MSM - apart from the theatre of left versus right politics who play around with some local level policies, while the globalism of the WEF/4th Reich proceeds.

Posted by: PJB | Apr 27 2022 23:05 utc | 199

There is already a German crew in Slovakia training Ukros on 2 Gepards.
The German crew are quite old grandfathers but still good teachers.
They were from
"Traunsteiner Gebirgsflugabwehr" Gebirgspanzerflugabwehrkanonenbataillon 81
Both mountain anti-aircraft battalions consisted of three combat batteries, each with seven FlaPz 1 Gepard. In the case of defense, the GebPzFlaRgt 8 could have used 42 FlaPz 1 Gepard.

Gepard can be used effectively to combat russian helicopters, drones and especially infantry, including lightly armored vehicles. In combination with battle tanks, armored personnel carriers / infantry and artillery, the Russian troops can be pushed back in the more open terrain of the south and south-east of Ukraine. ​​Further deliveries from the existing stocks of the industry will be:
88 Leopard 1A5 (Rheinmetall, FFG), 100 Marder (Rheinmetall) and 120 M113 (FFG).
All of this will help Ukraine significantly in the medium term, and since this material does not come from current Bundeswehr stocks, this delivery does not affect German defense capability in any way
The original task - air defense of vehicle columns - seems to be omitted due to the lack of the Russians' corresponding capabilities. Allegedly, the Russian Air Force hardly dares to enter Ukrainian airspace anymore.

U ve to operate with Gepard then u would understand what beast it is. Tunguska is hopelessly outmatched by Gepard. The air defense purpose of Gepard is one thing but the other combat surface targets up to a distance of 5km. Combat missions in Somalia and Kosovo were impressive. The combination Gepard with Manpads in a battle put the fear of death in the enemy army. Gepard in Urban warfare is a game changer. Serbs in Kosovo ve made their deadly experiances. I think Romania has approx 40 Gepards fully operational. They will use them against the russian troops in Transnistra or send them to Ukraine.

Btw Dozens of Gepards were extensively upgraded immediately before they were taken out of service (at Siemens Defense Electronics and its successor organization after the sale to DASA).
In conjunction with state-of-the-art AHEAD ammunition (developed for MANTIS), the system is more effective than ever, especially against cruise missiles, drones, etc.
A missing HaFla guidance system is not a knockout criterion.
Gepard is still excellent for urban warfare as i already mentioned but also for securing marches and defending HVAs such as command posts, bridges, supply and logistics centers. However, the level of training of the crew (commander, gunner) is of course decisive for every war: no more than a few seconds are available for target detection, classification and combat. The Moskva is a prime example of what can happen when your own SHORAD is caught with your pants down.

Leo 1 and also Gepard were originally ordered for a conscript army. They are therefore designed in such a way that they can be operated by conscripts after a "short" briefing - high school diploma is not a precondition
Ok the system is logistically supply-intensive. The ammunition consumption is enormous, corresponding quantities have to be procured and transported. According to my information, there is more than enough ammunition in stock. What is it worth the Neutrality of Switzerland we have already learned during the Bosnien and Kosovo theater.
They will find a way how to declare the 35mm-Munition for the Oerlikon-cannon. No problem.

Due to my informations the western partners of Russia are already (last two three weeks) educating ukro soldiers in Slovakia near Poprad with Gepard and other equipment. At the Poprad base are 2 Gepard for training purpose with losts of howitzers from France, Germany, USA,......
They re training Gepard in combination with ManPads.
Slovakia has been turned to trainings and weapon hub for ukraine.
In Michalovce daily arriving hundrets of tank fuel trucks with austrian and german tables on their way to the slovak ukraine border.
Not only fuel trucks also trucks with military equipment.
Never ever seen so many trucks in this part of slovakia.

Posted by: Raute | Apr 27 2022 23:10 utc | 200

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