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April 28, 2022
Open Thread 2022-55 (Not Ukraine)
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Funny how Germany thinks it might pay a €300 taxable ex-gratia payment to those in work in September to cover increased energy costs – but was able to pay a tax-free €1300 Covid-Bonus to civil servants who had bravely worked from home throughout the Covid Lockdown ! Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 28 2022 13:05 utc | 1 Twenty years for the 911-Families to receive evidence of Saudi complicity.
Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 13:27 utc | 2 Paul Greenwood. I guess they are having problems getting the printing machines up to speed. I’m fairly confident the Chinese will either sell them more printing machines or offer to print their money for them. (sarcastic) Posted by: RZ | Apr 28 2022 13:28 utc | 3 Britzerland! I’m new to UK politics so while watching the 90 sec video from 10 Downing Street of UK’s Johnson meeting with Switzerland’s Ignazio I heard this term for the first time. Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 28 2022 14:08 utc | 4 Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 13:27 utc | 2 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 28 2022 14:13 utc | 5 Greetings, Posted by: IronForge | Apr 28 2022 14:28 utc | 6 Any photos of Generals Cloutier and Milley -in public – been seen in the last eight weeks? Or French – Jewish Bernard Levy once he finished his tour of Kiev? Posted by: Brother Ma | Apr 28 2022 14:47 utc | 7 @Brother Ma | Apr 28 2022 14:47 utc | 7 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 28 2022 15:13 utc | 8 IF @ 6; Hope you noticed the first word in your link; Alleged, so thanks for the Covid BS… Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 28 2022 15:19 utc | 9
Funny how the “official story” gets dusted off and republished whenever SA does not follow US instructions. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 28 2022 15:21 utc | 10 Interesting point of view: Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 28 2022 15:28 utc | 11 Having insufficient funds, I have to stop in the front of paywalls (with few exceptions). Thus I remain puzzled and ignorant in the face of hit like this one Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 15:45 utc | 12 @ #9 vetinLA | Apr 28 2022 15:19 utc Posted by: IronForge | Apr 28 2022 15:46 utc | 13 #11 Norwegian Posted by: Brother Ma | Apr 28 2022 15:48 utc | 14 Here’s something completely different for barflies to learn about and contemplate: “Space Breeding” of seeds. I’m curious if this form of experiment’s been performed on animal zygotes. It’s been around for decades, but finally China calls it what it is, “American Disease”, and it’s not just related to China; rather, it constitutes a global pandemic of a political disease. @ Piotr Berman 12 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 16:02 utc | 17 @ karlof1 | Apr 28 2022 15:55 utc | 16 Posted by: Altai | Apr 28 2022 16:19 utc | 18 One thaught just struck me: Maybe we should regard the lays and innaccuracies served up about Russian army atrocities in The Ukaine is just a continued version of the campaign against China concerning “The Tiananmen massacres” and the flsely reported story about “The Tank Man? Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐/טלפ וש | Apr 28 2022 16:22 utc | 19 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 16:02 utc | 17 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 16:25 utc | 20 Call it by it’s true name, the American Tumblr disease. For the first time in history teenage girls and young women are highly politicised and have created an ideology all by themselves. It’s only been a few years and it’s almost brought us to WW3. … Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 16:42 utc | 21 Sorry for typos. The most misleading: ” this ideological phenomenon is not now” –> “not new”. Middle Ages are definitely “now”. In USA, we have a superannuated President, conveniently senile, surrounded by fit, trim and well groomed middle aged folks of both sexes, be it girly Psaki or boyish Blinken. They can bicycle one day, start WWIII next day… (I am bicycling myself, but otherwise I do not fit in this picture). Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 16:49 utc | 22 Posted by: IronForge | Apr 28 2022 14:28 utc | 6 Posted by: TickyItIs | Apr 28 2022 16:53 utc | 23 @Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 16:25 utc | 20
— Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 17:11 utc | 24 Here’s the document, I think. It’s, perhaps, more of a risk factors consideration (what if…?) than an outright admission. Posted by: TickyItIs | Apr 28 2022 17:17 utc | 25 Sorry, should have added: Posted by: TickyItIs | Apr 28 2022 17:18 utc | 26 IF @ 13; LOL, thanks for the personal attacks, they speak volumes about you. For your edification; Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 28 2022 17:25 utc | 27 So the US posted a Q1 annualized GDP growth of -1.4% vs +1% expected (aka contraction) while both Russia and China have posted positive gains (with Russian growth slowing down but remaining positive for Q1 while Chinese growth beating expectations with increased growth). Posted by: Brainiac3397 | Apr 28 2022 17:30 utc | 28 After Patrushev outlined the coming change in the ruble and financial system with it tied to gold and other commodities, other Russian publications have sought to clarify the issue and inform their readers. Izvestia is one of those publications and published this article yesterday, which of course is in Russian. What the article mostly reveals is the great lack of information available about this inevitable happening and numerous unanswered questions. If it’s meant to be kept secret, that job’s being done very well. The one item of consensus is that this change will strengthen the ruble and other currencies that follow Russia’s lead at the expense of the dollar system which will be significantly weakened. Brainiac3397 @28– So the US posted a Q1 annualized GDP growth of -1.4% vs +1% expected Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 28 2022 18:06 utc | 31 Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 13:27 utc | 2 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 28 2022 18:27 utc | 32 Robert Mueller of Whitey Bulger fame……. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 28 2022 18:31 utc | 33 Russia, China, and the Post-Dollar World w/Pepe Escobar Posted by: John Z | Apr 28 2022 19:08 utc | 34 Posted by: IronForge | Apr 28 2022 15:46 utc | 13:
I don’t know about vetinLA, but for me these are indeed rather intimidating, too “cerebral” too. I’m into classic Chinese literatures and histories. If I post some favorite pieces I read on these topics for your pleasure, would these be too “cerebral” and/or intimidating for you??? Just wondering. Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 28 2022 19:09 utc | 35 A tip for gardeners: You might already realize this, but the two to three gallon plastic tubs which plants are sold in make excellent minicomposters — place them on bare ground so worms can enter and egress, and fill with all vegetation as you weed or gather leaves. Be patient, especially over winter, then simply tip and toss what you have gathered into another similar tub, put that new one in the same place. For us oldies that makes composting a breeze, and you get a rich wormsoil when you do the tipping, easier than having a huge pile you need to turn. (It will also improve the damp soil below the tub. And you can use that soil for planting or feeding container plants as it is very rich.) Posted by: juliania | Apr 28 2022 19:18 utc | 36 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 28 2022 15:55 utc | 16: Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 28 2022 19:29 utc | 37 IDF admits aiding al-Qaeda in Syria https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20150318-israeli-army-admits-aiding-al-qaeda-in-syria/ Posted by: Laurence | Apr 28 2022 19:32 utc | 38 Apropos of nothingness, in another bar I drop by, for reasons inexplicable. Today I got such a kick out of the NSBS (no-shit banner-solicitation) topping the homepage, at CommonDreams. Wowzer!
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 28 2022 19:44 utc | 39 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 28 2022 19:44 utc | 39 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 28 2022 19:51 utc | 40 juliania @36 Posted by: lulu | Apr 28 2022 20:38 utc | 41 John Z @34– Aleph_Null @39– Can someone post a summary of the current situation in Syria? Posted by: ct | Apr 28 2022 21:05 utc | 44 @ karlof1 | Apr 28 2022 20:44 utc | 43 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 28 2022 21:11 utc | 45 @ librul 24 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 21:19 utc | 46 Bernhard, they are going to make ADL via PayPal to the war tool against any blog they don’t like: Posted by: njet | Apr 28 2022 21:27 utc | 47 @ karlof1 | Apr 28 2022 20:44 utc | 43
https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/28/online-censorship-of-ukraine-dissent-is-becoming-the-new-norm/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 28 2022 21:27 utc | 48 Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 17:11 utc | 24 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 21:48 utc | 49 My first blogging adventure was on Truthout. I enjoyed it for quite a while and then differed with a couple of bloggers who were attacking the blog-meisters. I said: Better not do that. But they did and the blog terminated. That was many years ago, and a good memory. Then later came other blogs, some of which threw me out and others that were (are) going nowhere. All-in-all, there’s not much left in quantity, which MOA makes up for in quality starting at the top. I’m even starting to read the entries after 300 on a topic, exhausting it, which then turn into encounter meetings. It’s all good. Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 21:49 utc | 50 “The atrocious foreign policy is one thing, but shouldn’t liberals be at least semi-decent on domestic issues?’ Piotr Berman@49 Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2022 22:30 utc | 51 @Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2022 21:19 utc | 46
Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 22:31 utc | 52 @Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 28 2022 21:48 utc | 49 Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2022 22:33 utc | 53 Interesting view published by the AFR today: Posted by: Paul | Apr 28 2022 23:51 utc | 54 Zippers of lead and ampules of iodide for Friday the 13th of May 2022. May the Lord protect the innocent. Posted by: Gliknos | Apr 29 2022 0:24 utc | 55 @6 IronForge | Apr 28 2022 14:28 utc
Many thanks again, IronForge. Posted by: Grieved | Apr 29 2022 3:00 utc | 56 The Dutch had at least apologised for their atrocities during their rule of indon.
No punishment, no remorse.
When their lies got exposed, did they feel embarrassed ? Posted by: denk | Apr 29 2022 3:03 utc | 57 Speaking of studies from the trials of the vaccine manufacturers themselves, a new Danish study concludes that the adenovirus-vector vaccines (AstraZeneca/Johnson & Johnson) show a definite reduction in mortality, while the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/Moderna) show no reduction at all and if anything a slight increase.
Posted by: Grieved | Apr 29 2022 3:36 utc | 58 The State of Tennessee in the USA has just passed a bill allowing Ivermectin to be purchased across the counter, and granting immunity from prosecution to pharmacies who in good faith and good practice accommodate this:
Tennessee is the first state to go full-on over the counter. Finally, the USA may be pulling itself up to the civilizational level of its neighbor, Mexico. Posted by: Grieved | Apr 29 2022 3:52 utc | 59 This is a graph of the population of Ukraine: Posted by: Passerby | Apr 29 2022 6:17 utc | 60 @ Grieved | Apr 29 2022 3:52 utc | 60 with the report about a US state with guts to stand up to Big Pharma…thanks! Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2022 6:49 utc | 61 @TickyItIs | Apr 28 2022 16:53 utc | 23 Posted by: IronForge | Apr 29 2022 7:19 utc | 62 I couldn’t get the site to load for awhile this morning, glad to see it’s back. Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 29 2022 9:27 utc | 63 >I couldn’t get the site to load for awhile this morning, glad to see it’s back. Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 29 2022 10:10 utc | 64 Col. Richard Black: U.S. Leading World to Nuclear War Posted by: Sundial | Apr 29 2022 11:18 utc | 65 Article written by a friend of mine, about globalism… Posted by: Ian Kummer | Apr 29 2022 11:37 utc | 66 IF @ 6; Hope you noticed the first word in your link; Alleged, so thanks for the Covid BS… Posted by: Anne B | Apr 29 2022 12:30 utc | 67 I believe I was booted from CommonDreams too. Must have been during Obamas rise to power. I already knew it was all a charade. Posted by: Anne B | Apr 29 2022 12:50 utc | 68 #— All of which leads to the big question of the era which is how long the American People are going to put up with the shit cooked up by the politicians and served by the media? Posted by: Anne B | Apr 29 2022 13:03 utc | 69 karlof1 @ 29 and 30 Posted by: financial matters | Apr 29 2022 13:48 utc | 70 Anne B @ 70 Posted by: financial matters | Apr 29 2022 13:52 utc | 71 I wonder if CNN employees earn some kind of bonus when they write a very good nonsense like that ? Posted by: Francil | Apr 29 2022 13:53 utc | 72 In congressional confirmation hearings for a judicial post on the 11th circuit this week Senator Josh Hawley (R MO) took on the regime and its radical nominee. The radical nominee is the litigation director for the Southern Poverty Law Center. Hawley questioned the practices of the SPLC which has become a well known attack dog for the far left by labeling conservative organizations as “ hate groups” without any real justification. Hopefully, this nominee will be torpedoed. We need more action like this directed toward other such groups like the ADL so called anti defamation league. These groups have become infested with radical Marxist activists and have lost legitimacy and exist only to threaten and intimidate conservatives or anybody who does not follow their radical Zionist ideology. Posted by: Obamavirus | Apr 29 2022 14:48 utc | 73 I am currently rereading two biographies of Fyodor Dostoievski. One, a weighty volume, comes from the halls of the Ivy league and I had purchased it supposing it to be the be-all and end-all of all such information on the author’s life and works; it is not. The other, contributers here may be interested to know, is Norwegian. It is older, smaller, and much friendlier. In both I have come as far as the author’s first acknowledged success, “Poor Folk”, which was written at the young age of 20. So, I have begun reading that as well. Posted by: juliania | Apr 29 2022 14:52 utc | 74 Posted by: lulu | Apr 28 2022 20:38 utc | 41 Posted by: juliania | Apr 29 2022 15:03 utc | 75 Posted by: ct | Apr 28 2022 21:05 utc | 44 Posted by: juliania | Apr 29 2022 15:07 utc | 76 Posted by: Grieved | Apr 29 2022 3:00 utc | 57 Posted by: juliania | Apr 29 2022 15:21 utc | 77 The focus of today’s Security Council meeting wasn’t Ukraine but Afghanistan. I’m not certain if this report by Lavrov at the MFA website is the same as the one he gave to the Council, but it’s relatively short for a Lavrov report, so what follows is its machine translation:
As you read, the Outlaw US Empire’s behavior remains a hindrance to Afghanistan’s development. I was going to emphasize Lavrov’s pointing to the 140 businesses built by Russia during the Soviet Era remaining the fundamental basis of the Afghan economy. Overall, progress is slowly occurring, and Lavrov didn’t point to any specific threat to Russia’s security that differs from before. I found this report to be illuminating, and those concerned about the attack made by the Outlaw US Empire on the Orthodox Church outside of Russia will want to read this as well:
IMO, the critique was rather mild. Given the longstanding attempts to use religion to destabilize Russia, the current level of solidarity is to be admired. Karlof1 Apr 29 2022 16:09 utc Posted by: boon | Apr 29 2022 17:29 utc | 80
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/04/28/caitlin-johnstone-being-anti-war-isnt-easy/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 29 2022 18:14 utc | 81 This is the status of the USA’s fighting forces. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 29 2022 19:27 utc | 82 Hot off the disinformation press:
10. Gates funded gain-of-function research at the University of Wisconsin – Madison that spliced recovered genes from the Spanish Flu into those of a human-transmissible bird flu. Just in case there’s ever an outbreak of it… then they’ll know how to handle it. Kind of like getting a jump on SARS-CoV-2 via gain-of-function research. In case there’s ever… oh, never mind. Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 29 2022 21:12 utc | 84 2;dont know saudi arabia.but who israel was involved. Posted by: dahoit | Apr 29 2022 22:09 utc | 85 86;saudi arabian and israel are best friends forever! Posted by: dahoit | Apr 29 2022 22:15 utc | 86 PavewayIV @85– David Dahwurr Hudson introduit l’Anzac Day au didgeridoo Posted by: Paul | Apr 29 2022 23:08 utc | 88 Posted by: Platero | Apr 29 2022 20:03 utc | 84 Posted by: juliania | Apr 29 2022 23:33 utc | 89 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2022 16:09 utc | 79 Posted by: juliania | Apr 29 2022 23:57 utc | 90 juliania @91– big fires in northern New Mexico, extreme fire danger in parts of Colorado, even a fire west of Amarillo. damn. Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 30 2022 1:13 utc | 92
— aggravated by ferocious high winds. Hardly a day has gone by in the last month without winds that will gust as high as 65 mph. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 30 2022 1:44 utc | 93 yeah, even in north central Texas the winds have been stronger than I ever remember. I saw an article that compared the recent fires in Colorado to the immensely destructive ones in California. Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 30 2022 1:55 utc | 94 karlof1 | Apr 29 2022 16:20 utc | 80 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 30 2022 2:52 utc | 95 In case you forget… Posted by: denk | Apr 30 2022 4:05 utc | 96
Exhibit A Posted by: denk | May 1 2022 2:54 utc | 97 Hey Posted by: Den Lille Abe | May 5 2022 18:13 utc | 98 |
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