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April 14, 2022
Open Thread 2022-45 (Not Ukraine)
News and views NOT related to Ukraine …
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Why is the CCP still in the 101% lockdown mindset in April 2022 in Shanghai? Posted by: Antonym | Apr 14 2022 15:10 utc | 1 Russia Today, Sputniknews, Ria Novosti – all blocked. Way back in the ’80ies, Russia would jam Western news broadcasts. Today it’s the West that prefers to keep the population in the dark. Posted by: Passerby | Apr 14 2022 15:16 utc | 2 One thing’s certain: The entire Moskva event pushed what ought to have been headline news elsewhere: Dealing with trolls. Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 14 2022 15:57 utc | 4 It appears there was no coverage of the Putin/Lukashenko joint visit to the Amur, specifically Voschostny Cosmodrome to celebrate Cosmonauts Day, which is the anniversary of Gagarin’s historic entry into space. @3 is the important presser with Lukachenko. Here’s the conversation they had with workers at the Cosmodrome. I highlight this one interchange because of its significance:
The next day (13th), ESA cancelled its involvement with Russia’s Lunar and Mars programs, while NASA also did the same earlier. That leaves Russia and China as the two main space-faring nations. Luna-25 will complement China’s recent visit to the Moon’s South Pole. The Moon will become Eurasian. @PasserBy #2: Posted by: IronForge | Apr 14 2022 16:06 utc | 6 conversation from my friend Posted by: james | Apr 14 2022 16:25 utc | 7 In the presser with, Putin imparted the following important facts:
The harmonizing Union State status is rapidly progressing. I’d like to see Kazakhstan join that process. The remaining CSTO nations would also benefit. Yes, that would look like the regeneration of the USSR but on a completely different basis. The new Republics would also likely want that status too. Lukashenko also voiced his agreement on making Belarus a joint ruble zone with Russia.
Thanks Juliania. Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 14 2022 16:31 utc | 9 Here’s the context for the headline quote @3:
Lukashenko chimed in with this:
One other question deals with the SMO’s progress and its “logic” that I’ll post on the other thread since it pertains to Ukraine. Oh Canada – a mix of facts and gossip Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Apr 14 2022 16:45 utc | 11 Medvedev’s been on a roll with his Telegram writings. This one deals with the attempt to steal the Hermitage’s artworks in Finland on their return from France:
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exclusive-chinas-oil-champion-prepares-western-retreat-over-sanctions-fear-2022-04-13/ Posted by: Arioch | Apr 14 2022 17:09 utc | 13 Russia would jam Western news broadcasts. Today it’s the West that prefers to keep the population in the dark. Posted by: Arioch | Apr 14 2022 17:11 utc | 14 @PasserBy Russia Today, Sputniknews, Ria Novosti – all blocked. Here’s what Medvedev wrote about the Sweden and Finland NATO issue:
I hope the people get to vote on this issue and not allow their bought/corrupt misleaders to screw them. Economically, Finland can’t afford to alienate Russia; Sweden has more independence on that issue. PM Modi’s team is navigating UKR crisis carefully. His administration has many capable members, take Defense Minister Rajnath Singh; he is from the Sikh heritage. Across the western border, in Pakistan, ex.PM Imran Khan is making these two South Asian neighbors play ball — balancing their historic bond with the Anglo-American enterprise. These two nations have been the backbone of the emergence of Anglo-American order with life and treasures (see East India Company). Posted by: SailorsWife | Apr 14 2022 17:41 utc | 17 Ouch, no litium for Russia, https://t.me/rybar/31195:
Posted by: Boo | Apr 14 2022 18:19 utc | 18 The last bit of business conducted by Putin while in Amur was a conference with Roscosmos CEO Rogozin. There’re several “burps” in the machine translation that follows that doesn’t influence meaning:
As noted, Russia is now better off while those it supplied are worse. The Union State merger with Belarus adds further resilience to Roscosmos and provides an indication as to when Russia will be free of dependence on imports from unfriendly nations; my guess is the December 2023. Here’s the report on Russia’s 1Q economic performance:
Undoubtedly, such performance infuriates the Outlaw US Empire and proves its inability to isolate Russia. As Putin said on the 12th, in today’s world, it’s impossible to isolate a nation as large as Russia. karlof1… thanks for your various posts on the threads… i appreciate it.. Posted by: james | Apr 14 2022 18:53 utc | 21 Thanks james @21. The current Shadowstats report is very long and not at all good as barflies ought to expect by now. This one section IMO is something every potential immigrant ought to read and understand as it’s horrific:
A Negative Net Worth of $123.5 TRILLION ought to be enough for at least a few to pause and reflect how we got to this point. And this Bankrupt Outlaw US Empire thinks it has what it takes to rule the world?!? Is the money such a nation issues worth anything? @ Boo 18 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 14 2022 19:22 utc | 23 Andrei Tsiganov: Russia is Regaining Its Sovereignty Thanks to the Sanctions Imposed by the West Posted by: james | Apr 14 2022 19:38 utc | 24 @1 Posted by: z-lib | Apr 14 2022 19:43 utc | 25 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 14 2022 19:22 utc | 23 Posted by: JC | Apr 14 2022 20:00 utc | 26 Today, omeone noted in the comment section that Russia Today & others were blocked. If you go to “The Vineyard of The Saker” you will have full access. Moreover, you won’t be blocked if you wish to leave a comment on those sites. Posted by: Rubicon | Apr 14 2022 20:04 utc | 27 China has acted as if under biological attack from the beginning. Makes me wonder about previous outbreaks like bird and swine flu… they were certainly peddled as “Asian viruses” in Australia. Posted by: Rae | Apr 14 2022 20:10 utc | 28 from State:
Perhaps Texans can get China secretaries of this and that to host a roundtable with Texas activists and experts to underscore China commitment to the rights and freedoms of Texans? . . .Oh, that wouldn’t work, China doesn’t meddle in another country’s internal affairs. Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 14 2022 20:50 utc | 29 Pepe Escobar just announced his interview in the cradle with Sergey Glazyev. Interesting read as usual from both. Posted by: Boo | Apr 14 2022 21:40 utc | 30 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 16:32 utc | 10 Posted by: juliania | Apr 14 2022 21:48 utc | 31 From Karlof1 #12
Sergei Eisenstein’s “Alexander Nevsky”, full movie, original version, English subtitles available Posted by: La Bastille | Apr 14 2022 22:06 utc | 32 Another shocking case of anti-semitism (at least in the view of the Israeli Ambassador) Harvard Law School’s International Human Rights Clinic confirms what everybody-even Amnesty-knew Posted by: bevin | Apr 14 2022 22:20 utc | 33 Posted by: b | Apr 14 2022 17:19 utc | 15 Posted by: Passerby | Apr 14 2022 22:30 utc | 34 juliania@31 Posted by: bevin | Apr 14 2022 22:33 utc | 35 “Only the white man can make so much smoke”
Posted by: La Bastille | Apr 14 2022 22:47 utc | 36 juliania @31– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 17:04 utc | 12
*[Pevear notes that ‘Luzhin bungles the proverb’ – sort of like Bush with ‘fool me once…’] Posted by: juliania | Apr 14 2022 22:58 utc | 38 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 22:51 utc | 37 Posted by: financial matters | Apr 14 2022 23:50 utc | 39 COVID in China, and new evidence as to its origins Posted by: Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40 karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 19:19 utc | 22 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 14 2022 23:57 utc | 41 —-Russia Today, Sputniknews, Ria Novosti – all blocked. Way back in the ’80ies, Russia would jam Western news broadcasts. Today it’s the West that prefers to keep the population in the dark. Posted by: Anne B | Apr 14 2022 23:58 utc | 42 Posted by: Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40 Posted by: financial matters | Apr 15 2022 0:06 utc | 43 @juliana, Posted by: Lex | Apr 15 2022 0:13 utc | 44 @ karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 22:51 utc | 37 with the link to the Escobar/Glazyev interview Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 15 2022 0:16 utc | 45 psychohistorian @45– rae@28 Posted by: bevin | Apr 15 2022 0:25 utc | 47 karlof1 @ 10:
Posted by: juliania | Apr 15 2022 0:52 utc | 48 China strategy = same as with Russia. When in doubt, escalate! Posted by: ptb | Apr 15 2022 1:03 utc | 49 juliania @48– A long briefing on US bio activities in Ukraine. (yandex translate)
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 15 2022 1:18 utc | 51 Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 15 2022 1:26 utc | 52 sorry, i meant antonym Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 15 2022 1:33 utc | 53 Antonym | Apr 14 2022 15:10 utc | 1 Posted by: rjb1.5 | Apr 15 2022 1:39 utc | 54 A long briefing on the US bio weapon program in Ukraine. (this time without the link)
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 15 2022 1:44 utc | 55 MoD Russia twitter account https://twitter.com/mod_russia/status/1514610327186378756?cxt=HHwWiMCo0auE_YQqAAAA Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 15 2022 1:50 utc | 56 rjb1.5 #53 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 15 2022 1:59 utc | 57 Perhaps this has been posted here before, but BoJo announced that all illegal immigrants (e.g.: asylum seekers) shall henceforth be deported to Rwanda. Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 15 2022 2:03 utc | 58 For those who might like more information on the Shanghai situation, today’s distillation at the Saker of China events is pertinent: Posted by: Grieved | Apr 15 2022 2:10 utc | 59 Has the Saker become a filtered URL for the moment? Oh well, try today’s “Here Comes China” roundup for some good local Shanghai sources. Posted by: Grieved | Apr 15 2022 2:12 utc | 60 I also just came across this: China has apparently completed development on hypersonic heat-seeking missiles. Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 15 2022 2:37 utc | 61 @ Tom Pfotzer | 4 Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 15 2022 2:39 utc | 62 Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 19:19 utc | 22 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 15 2022 3:27 utc | 63 Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 15 2022 2:03 utc | 57 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 15 2022 3:31 utc | 64 One man’s troll is another man’s truth-teller. Posted by: Robert Macaire | Apr 15 2022 3:32 utc | 65 @ Pacifica Advocate 59
The F-35 mistake-jet can’t carry nuclear weapons and. . . Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 15 2022 3:41 utc | 66 Posted by: Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40 Posted by: Beatrice | Apr 15 2022 3:50 utc | 67 @ 57 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 15 2022 3:54 utc | 68 Posted by: Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40
Buddy, give it rest. You F’d up: if it had only been ONE posting I might not have bothered to comment on that, but then another came, and, well.. Own up to it. Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 3:55 utc | 69 @ ptb 49 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 15 2022 4:00 utc | 70 Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Apr 15 2022 2:37 utc | 59
Imagine the above with a strike-through of “wasted” and substituted with “profited.” NOTE: [latest report] US corporations had their greatest profits margins ever. EVER! Continuing to add to this dystopia… Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 4:02 utc | 71 @ fm 39 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 15 2022 4:07 utc | 72 Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 15 2022 3:54 utc | 66 Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 4:10 utc | 73 Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 3:55 utc | 67 Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 4:24 utc | 74 Posted by: Antonym | Apr 14 2022 15:10 utc | 1 Posted by: Bo Robinson | Apr 15 2022 4:34 utc | 75 next up…
[1] Posted by: denk | Apr 15 2022 4:53 utc | 76 Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 4:24 utc | 72 Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 5:01 utc | 77 Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 5:01 utc | 75 Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 5:06 utc | 78 Thanks, karlof1 @ 50 for the Glazyev article. He’s not as easy to understand as Prof. Hudson, and not being an economist myself, it was heavy going until I got to this section:
Wow. Posted by: juliania | Apr 15 2022 5:25 utc | 79 Posted by: Lex | Apr 15 2022 0:13 utc | 44 Posted by: juliania | Apr 15 2022 5:41 utc | 80 A very late thank you, Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40, for a helpful description of matters covid lately in Shanghai. I look forward to your promised post on the China – Pakistan situation. Tectonic plates…stay safe. Posted by: juliania | Apr 15 2022 5:53 utc | 81 Posted by: juliania | Apr 15 2022 5:53 utc | 79 Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 6:23 utc | 82 The F-35 Joint Program Office has released a bunch of images showing DCA (Dual Capable Aircraft) tests involving the release of inert nuclear bombs. https://theaviationist.com/2020/06/22/here-are-the-first-photos-of-the-f-35a-jets-dropping-inert-b61-12-nuclear-bombs-during-dca-tests/ Posted by: Laurence | Apr 15 2022 6:24 utc | 83 The world of 2047 will hopefully be a brighter one, with all of earth’s current geopolitical problems rendered obsolete. Something close to the “med bed” thing will have completely revolutionized contemporary medicine long ago. People will hopefully look back on c0v1d like it was a “war of the worlds” supercivilizational prank allowed to go on for too long. That which is beyond earth will hopefully be within reach for more everyday people! Posted by: Mikhail-Raygun 19772 | Apr 15 2022 6:32 utc | 84 Finding uplift from the weary times… Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 15 2022 6:37 utc | 85 Walt | Apr 14 2022 23:51 utc | 40 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 15 2022 7:04 utc | 86 This is always off-topic, even when there’s no particular topic: Here in continental USA, an unremitting Spring onslaught of violent storms keeps pounding the heartland (the other white apocalypse). One more terrific fire season is just getting warmed up with the outbreak of the deadly McBride fire in New Mexico. Relative humidity as low as 2%. Tornados such as even Dorothy from Kansas never saw the likes. Many pretty twisters, mainly over Texas, where someone took a snapshot of a 5 1/2 inch hailstone. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 15 2022 7:31 utc | 87 Regarding COVID-19… Let this one sink in… Posted by: Seer | Apr 15 2022 7:39 utc | 88 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 15 2022 7:31 utc | 85 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 15 2022 8:05 utc | 89 fire season is year round there, now. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 15 2022 8:41 utc | 90 Pakistan, the coup, and China Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 8:42 utc | 91 Elon Musk Wants to Make Twitter’s Algorithm Open Source, Enable Free Speech https://sputniknews.com/20220414/elon-musk-wants-to-make-twitters-algorithm-open-source-enable-free-speech-1094769971.html
May not be the Catch-22 that appears to be. Could be a thread topic. In other Twitter news: Posted by: Laurence | Apr 15 2022 8:48 utc | 92 @ karlof1 | Apr 14 2022 17:04 utc | 12 Posted by: Steve | Apr 15 2022 8:57 utc | 93 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 15 2022 8:41 utc | 88 Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 15 2022 9:00 utc | 94 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 15 2022 7:04 utc | 84 Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 9:12 utc | 95 @Walt | Apr 15 2022 8:42 utc | 89 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 15 2022 9:16 utc | 96 The Thai canal may become a reality at some stage. It would connect the Gulf Of Thailand with the Andaman Sea, bypassing the Malacca Straight. Posted by: Walt | Apr 15 2022 9:24 utc | 97 @Walt | Apr 15 2022 9:24 utc | 97 Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 15 2022 10:30 utc | 98 Israel is currently using the pinning down of Russia and Western media attention in Ukraine to bomb Damascus. Posted by: Altai | Apr 15 2022 10:33 utc | 99 Posted by: Steve | Apr 15 2022 8:57 utc | 93
Going after the “command and control” centers after almost 2 months of SMO shows how exasperated and naive the Russians were to believe that giving one last chance for a diplomatic solution will work, and that it predictably – well, at least for people that know the belly of the beast like Paul Craig Roberts – did not work. Moreover, the strategy of increasing the pain dial so far has produced a reciprocal military and economic pain dial from NATO. At the moment, after 2 months we’re back to a conventional war with a chance for nuclear confrontation. Posted by: Boo | Apr 15 2022 10:38 utc | 100 |
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