If The Pentagon Can Not Confirm The Bucha Tales, Who Can?
This was the most important one of yesterday's news items.
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Pentagon can't independently confirm atrocities in Ukraine's Bucha, official says
WASHINGTON, April 4 (Reuters) - The U.S. military is not in a position to independently confirm Ukrainian accounts of atrocities by Russian forces against civilians in the town of Bucha, ...
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"The Pentagon can't independently and single handedly confirm that, but we're also not in any position to refute those claims."
If the Pentagon, which includes the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, could not confirm what the government in Kiev claimed, who else could?
Certainly not the European minions who reacted to those dubious claims by removing more Russian embassy personal from their countries.
The U.S. is again pushing the Europeans into suiciding their economies. The U.S. would of course be the only country that would gain from that.
Its over. The Ukraine has lost the war. Its navy, air force and defense industry no longer exist. The Russia air force is doing hundreds of bombing runs per night eliminating any fuel and ammunition depot that is left in Ukraine.
Without fuel tanks and trucks are immobilized. Without ammunition artillery falls silent. The heavy Ukrainian units along Donbas are now unable to do maneuver warfare. They can not even flee. Replenishment and reserves are unable to reach them. They have the choice of giving up or getting destroyed in place.
Anyone who is still pushing more weapons into Ukraine or tells Kiev to prolong the war is putting more Ukrainian lives at risk for zero potential gain.
That's criminal.
Posted by b on April 5, 2022 at 11:09 UTC | Permalink
next page »It's becoming obvious to me by now that the motivation behind all this is US initiated demolition of the EU, and rerouting of important Russian exports (oil more than anything else) to the USA at the expense of the EU. As it heads into decline and becomes increasingly more desperate, the USA is shaking down its wealthiest client states.
Russia is not the target, it is too powerful and the USA needs its exports. The purpose behind the false flags is an attempt to make the EU impose more and more sanctions on Russia and collapse their economies allowing the US to scoop everything up. US intelligence must have some great dirt on the EU leaders to force them into sacrificing the continent like this, but such is the fate of vassal states as the overload gets desperate.
Posted by: Jacklyn34 | Apr 5 2022 11:19 utc | 2
The Bucha atrocity carried out by Ukrainian and blamed on the Russian army is disgusting and emblematic of the Empire of Lies in the West. The only western country with any sense is Hungary. We need regime change in the West and we need to purge the media all of them are liers and presstitutes
Posted by: James McCumiskey | Apr 5 2022 11:20 utc | 3
Posted by: Jacklyn34 | Apr 5 2022 11:19 utc | 2
I think that you and b are right about this. The headlines this morning are advertising the need for new EU sanctions and there's talk about "overcoming" German hesitancy to cut off all Russian energy imports, etc.
However, my telegram feed today contains several rumors about future false flags being staged in various cities of Ukraine over the coming days. If this is true, then I think we are still not out of the woods with regard to NATO intervention of one sort or another, however insane that would be.
Clearly, again, the Pentagon is battling with the State Department/CIA over how the US government and media handle the propaganda. I believe the Pentagon is afraid the propaganda has overreached and will come to a tipping point where the US citizens, deluded en masse, will demand US military intervention.
Posted by: WJ | Apr 5 2022 11:34 utc | 4
@3
not sure how you can purge the Western media when they are all mouthpieces of Western regimes...and also most of the herd believe the propaganda so much that when some poor fella even raises the tiniest of doubts on a story, he'll be condemned as a Kremlin stooge, etc.
Posted by: Nick | Apr 5 2022 11:36 utc | 5
Timeline:
11th March: Bodies seen on street in satellite images.
13th March: Bodies buried in local church cemetery.
30th March: Russians leave.
31st March: Mayor announces liberation, no mention of bodies or massacre.
31st March / 1st April: Sweep of area by Ukraine looking for saboteurs and Russian collaborators (video of Ukraine asking of can shoot at those not wearing blue arm bands)
1st April: Video appears of bodies in street that have not been there three weeks but appear in similar positions to satellite images from the 11th. Some have white armbands, some tied wrists with white cloth, some have Russian aid packages, some executed in basement.
3rd April?: Reports of mass grave is actually the digging up of previously recorded burial in church cemetery on the 13th March.
Posted by: Keith Granger | Apr 5 2022 11:38 utc | 6
Bellingcat and others have been saying that a massacre by Russians has been proved by satellite images from Maxtar, which purportedly show dead bodies on the streets of Bucha three weeks ago. If these images and their timestamps were authentic, the Pentagon would know it, but they say now that they can't confirm the atrocities.
Posted by: Brendan | Apr 5 2022 11:40 utc | 7
What Russian need to do, is that in new Nurnberg trials name all the sponsors of the new nazis and instigators of all genocides in last 50 years:
- countries by names
- governments/parties etc.
- government officials
- oligarch and other rich scum/persons
- anyone connected
I would very much like to see, adleast in Wikipedias of east, Soroses, Macrons, whole Canadian/US and especially UK government (the whole lot) named as genocidal, neo nazi sponsors and instigators- basically new Axis pact of 21st century.
Eastern/Southern folks are not stupid, and most of them already see things for what they are. It makes my heart warm to know adleast them will learn truth in school.
West talking about "wrong side of history", only jewish media can be so blatantly ironic.
Posted by: Abe | Apr 5 2022 11:44 utc | 8
Yes, the Ukrainian military has largely been neutralized, but it hasn't been annihilated. And it looks like
the American and European puppet masters want Ukraine to be completely destroyed. To what end?
Every day a chance of more false flags increases. As the battle in Donbass looms, we will probably see
more and more false flags.
Last but not least, can Zelensky and current government even strike some sort of deal with the Russians?
The US/UK obviously don't want to, but the bigger issue is whether the extremist elements in his government
and the military would even allow him. Is he a dead man walking, doomed to be eliminated when he no longer
serves the purpose?
Posted by: Ivan | Apr 5 2022 11:46 utc | 9
Posted by: Ivan | Apr 5 2022 11:46 utc | 9
I think they want it to bleed Russia, to soften it up for regime change. they would prefer that the destruction take a long time.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 5 2022 12:05 utc | 11
Posted by: Hermius | Apr 5 2022 11:14 utc | 1
The dog crossed the road without any reaction to rotting corpses in the street
The men ambled along peering into wreckage unconcerned with corpses in the street.....really unmoved
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 5 2022 12:10 utc | 12
And what happens after EU suicides their economies? Germany started WW2 after its economy tanked. What do you think EU will do?
I think the answer is becoming obvious.
I remember a warning to Merkel, 8 years ago, that she should take care that she - and Germany - won'get credited for starting WW3. She got out just in time, to leave that to her successor Scholz.
Posted by: Martina | Apr 5 2022 12:11 utc | 13
I doubt the Pentagon had anything to do with this. Going to war against a peer power would be a disaster for it since the Pentagon along with a lot else would cease to exist.
CIA might have some involvement but this operation required abilities (intelligence as in brains) I doubt the CIA has.
Nah, my money is on MI-6. Which country is proud of using human cadavers for disinformation purposes and even makes films about such use. The Man Who Never Was(1956) and Operation Mincemeat(2022).
Brits do like the "The Boy's Own Paper" lifestyle.
This is too like many events in Syria involving the White Helmets to not be suspicious.
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 5 2022 12:15 utc | 14
same playbook as syria
next one, possibly, is chemical plant explosion in Rubezhnoe (per Cassad telegram)
Posted by: ptb | Apr 5 2022 12:16 utc | 15
The Europeans act as if they realized, that their expectations of a quick Russian breakdown won’t fulfill.
So they must double down their warfare which has proofen ineffective.
It has in deed a moment of desperation.
How can I live in a country that shows me it’s true face in such a brutal way? That shows me that all „never forget“ was folklore. That seems to be happy to finally be allowed to return to its roots: Hatred, racism and preparation of war.
Posted by: njet | Apr 5 2022 12:20 utc | 16
According to reports, a new provocation by Ukrainian/Western propagandists is being prepared in Bucha.
The main participants in the fake are the head of the Paris branch of Reuters, Christian Low (organizer) and the head of Reuters, Joan Catherine Soleil (story editor).
It is planned to use captured maps, captured uniforms, captured equipment of the Russian troops, which will be deliberately filmed at the place of fake staging. So far, the main scenario is to shoot on “randomly working” cameras how “Russian troops” lead people into the basement of a residential building and shoot them.
Also, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports: according to confirmed information, last night in Moshchun, 23 km north-west of Kyiv, soldiers of the 72nd Ukrainian main center of psychological operations conducted another staged filming of civilians allegedly killed by the violent actions of Russian troops - for distribution through the Western media. Similar events are now organized by the Ukrainian special services in Sumy, Konotop and other Ukrainian cities.
MoA is again sitting here with open pants and the same with you commenters, as always. I very well remember how you tried to defend the loudmouth Igor Strelkov, the coward with a gun and no balls in 2014 after killing 300 passengers of the MH17 flight.
First boasting yourself with shooting down an "ukrainian aircraft", then hours later when you taste the shit from the fan blaming someone else. That's happening again, first applauding Kadirow`s bloodhounds but now when you see the results trying cowardly to blame the victims.
You and your host have just a head full of stupidity, no principal political convictions which would guide you through the class fights of the day so you just side with the enemy of your enemy regardless of his open fascism face
Posted by: thomas | Apr 5 2022 12:22 utc | 18
Posted by: Martina | Apr 5 2022 12:11 utc | 13
And what happens after EU suicides their economies? Germany started WW2 after its economy tanked. What do you think EU will do?
On contrare, Germany started WW2 after it rebuilt its economy and military after WW1 post crisis and inspired their people hey are uber race, so better than folks on the east.
Can you see EU rebuilding its economy, let alone military, and have nearly homgenous population (mixed brown, black, white, christian, muslim and what not) they can inspire of anything?
No, EU countries are down the shi***er, they will have problem feeding its people and providing hem with electricity for next 50 years, and having non brown people on any position of power, let alone try to conquer anyone else.
Posted by: Abe | Apr 5 2022 12:23 utc | 19
I think both sides know by now what the endgame will be: Ukraine will be split in an Ukrainian and Russian part. The only unknown is where the new borders will be set up. I think the minimum Oblasts will include: Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa.
From a strategic point of view, the Oblasts to the right bank of the Dnepr should taken as well: Chernigov, Sumy and Poltava. The Chernigov Oblast borders Kiev, which is of strategic importance to make sure rump Ukraine wont be a threat anymore. The same in the Korean frozen conflict: North Korea is 40 Km away from Seul and can easily flaten the city, which makes sure that South Korea doesnt go full war mode.
Its impossible for Putin to withdraw from all of Ukraine except for Donbass in exchange for sanction relief. He would be eaten alive by the Russian public. The Russian public is behind him with around 80%, there is no room for compromize. The same goes for Ze, he cant compromize on giving away Crimea and Donbass without being killed by his nationalist war party.
So when both sides cant compromize now, there are only 2 options: A compromize will be found later on, if either side becomes tired of war and accepts that the maximalist position is out of reach or if either side achieves the goals set out. In other words: Can Russia achieve occupation of all the aforementioned Oblasts before the Russian public becomes tired of war? I think Russia will achieve her goals before that. Ze can neither win nor compromize. Putin cant compromize, but he can win.
Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 5 2022 12:23 utc | 20
I posted a comment in the previous thread and didnt see a new one was created, so I post my comment again:
I think both sides know by now what the endgame will be: Ukraine will be split in an Ukrainian and Russian part. The only unknown is where the new borders will be set up. I think the minimum Oblasts will include: Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa.
From a strategic point of view, the Oblasts to the right bank of the Dnepr should taken as well: Chernigov, Sumy and Poltava. The Chernigov Oblast borders Kiev, which is of strategic importance to make sure rump Ukraine wont be a threat anymore. The same in the Korean frozen conflict: North Korea is 40 Km away from Seul and can easily flaten the city, which makes sure that South Korea doesnt go full war mode.
Its impossible for Putin to withdraw from all of Ukraine except for Donbass in exchange for sanction relief. He would be eaten alive by the Russian public. The Russian public is behind him with around 80%, there is no room for compromize. The same goes for Ze, he cant compromize on giving away Crimea and Donbass without being killed by his nationalist war party.
So when both sides cant compromize now, there are only 2 options: A compromize will be found later on, if either side becomes tired of war and accepts that the maximalist position is out of reach or if either side achieves the goals set out. In other words: Can Russia achieve occupation of all the aforementioned Oblasts before the Russian public becomes tired of war? I think Russia will achieve her goals before that. Ze can neither win nor compromize. Putin cant compromize, but he can win.
Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 5 2022 12:25 utc | 21
Posted by: thomas | Apr 5 2022 12:22 utc | 18
Calm down, man, you make no sense. You're insinuating that Russia is fascist, but you don't provide any proof to your claims. Also, the ukranians acting under the guidance of MI6 advisors shot down the MH117 aircraft, this is well established fact by now, sorry that you did not know about it.
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 12:28 utc | 22
@13, Martina
Indeed, didn't Sun Tzu say something about an army with its back to the river will fight to the death as there is no retreat? In effect, EU is being put in a position where the only way forward is to try to conquer Russia and take their stuff because there is now nothing in the larder at home. Of course, neither the EU not the US is in a position to do very well in that regard.
I have come to consider the United States as a Death Cult, but now I wonder if the UK is the real cult leader, they seem to egg the US on and always go the extra mile to try and make things worse, and I've no idea why.
Posted by: Lonkal | Apr 5 2022 12:31 utc | 23
The Russian Defence Ministry said this two days ago:
For as long as the town was under the control of the Russian armed forces and even then, up to now, locals in Bucha were moving freely around the town and using cellular phones.The exits from Bucha were not blocked. All local residents were free to leave the town in northern direction, including to the Republic of Belarus.
If true, why did no images of the dead bodies make their way out of Bucha during that time?
If false (and Russian MoD is lying), why has Ukraine not denied that statement?
It's no wonder then that the UN Security Council turned down Russia's request for a meeting on the situation in Bucha, as Lavrov said yesterday, as that would only highlight those and other awkward questions.
Posted by: Brendan | Apr 5 2022 12:31 utc | 24
B, could you please delete troll comments like the one from murgen23?
I have nothing against a contrarian PoV. But trolls who go by "defeat the great Orc", "ruskis got am incredibly severe beating on the ground" etc are not interested in a well reasoned line of argument and counter-argument. Thx.
Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Apr 5 2022 12:33 utc | 25
Russia is not the target, it is too powerful and the USA needs its exports. The purpose behind the false flags is an attempt to make the EU impose more and more sanctions on Russia and collapse their economies allowing the US to scoop everything up. US intelligence must have some great dirt on the EU leaders to force them into sacrificing the continent like this, but such is the fate of vassal states as the overload gets desperate.
Posted by: Jacklyn34 | Apr 5 2022 11:19 utc | 2
This excellent analyst in Russia would agree with you. EU is the target.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSg3KcsFkOM
Unfortunately you would need to know Russian to understand what is being said.
Mikhail Muravyov has been recognized to be very good at what he does, namely being correct. He's probable on the level of people that feed analysis to Putin (well that is the talk on the street).
He took a long break from doing such work but now with Ukraine he returned into public space.
Use browser translator and you can read some of his current articles.
https://aftershock.news/?q=blog/51523
Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 5 2022 12:34 utc | 26
Uhoh, we've got a thick troll named murgen23 who doesn't know where "they" are posting.
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 12:34 utc | 27
all i can think of is that european leaders have been trapped in a pegasus type situation. it just doesn't make sense why they would be destroying the continent.
Posted by: annie | Apr 5 2022 12:35 utc | 28
This from Gonzalo. He has deleted his coverage of Bucha from YouTube. Which might buy him days on YouTube.
https://t.me/realCRP/4185
The Narrative is become the Ministry of Truth. All barflies are thoughtcriminals. It is nonpossible to argue with the Ministry. No one can hear you. Soon even you will not be able to form, to think, your thoughtcrimes.
Yesterday the wife went to an in-person indoors AA meeting where no one wore masks. They knew they were criminals. I traveled to downtown Chicago to see the dentist. Masking is still universal there. Showing your face out of doors draws verbal assault, physical assault is a risk. They love Big Brother.
Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 5 2022 12:44 utc | 29
"Anyone who is still pushing more weapons into Ukraine or tells Kiev to prolong the war is putting more Ukrainian lives at risk for zero potential gain."
That has been obvious to all for a long time, including the Ukronazis. But neither the Ukronazis nor the collective West cares a cuss about the lives of Ukrainians. The Baltic Chihuahuas need some corrective walloping before things can settle a bit. The Nordics as ususal continue with their hyper hypocritical theatericals.
Posted by: Steve | Apr 5 2022 12:47 utc | 30
MoD:
In total, 125 Ukrainian aircraft and 91 helicopters, 398 unmanned aerial vehicles, 226 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1,969 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 214 multiple launch rocket systems, 852 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,873 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.
I am amazed that the poorest country in Europe had so much functioning armaments and enough trained military to maintain and operate it.
Posted by: RJB | Apr 5 2022 12:49 utc | 31
Harsh video (not recommended for those who are especially impressionable) of the brutal massacre of Ukrainian and Georgian militants over Russian paratroopers who were ambushed during the withdrawal of troops on March 30. The soldiers were first taken prisoner, tied up, and then their throats were slit. After that, the monsters sneered for a long time and watched the wounded wheeze, and only after enjoying the death agony, they finished off with machine gun shots.
The Ukrainian regime as it is. Supported by the West.
These are not humans. Indeed, worse than ISIS.
By the way, note that the hands of Russian soldiers are tied behind their backs.
Oh, we must have the strength of Thomass's convictions!
Higgins, he had two BIG balls.
😆
Posted by: Laurence | Apr 5 2022 12:56 utc | 33
What we see here in Ukraine are the last remnant of only capable force that can fight Russians.
Only close second in capabilities are Poles, thanks to their rabid anti Russian hate, and the fact they are culturally anti woke/gay and racists so their military is still composed of (mostly straight) white males.
Can you imagine what would look armies of other EU countries if they would raise them to send to east? With their racial composition, women inclusivity, woke/gay agenda, feminized and overweight over pampered men from single mother families? What would they fight for? Anal rights, feminism or their different religions? They are a joke.
No wonder Russians don't fear NATO and Europe. There simply isn't anyone there capable to fight.
Posted by: Abe | Apr 5 2022 12:57 utc | 34
The UK has sent scores of secondhand 4by4 vehicles to Ukraine for the Nazi's to use.
Also the US can't confirm the Bucha murders by Russian forces simply because Russian forces didn't do it, the UK and the US, and Europe for that matter have already turned a blind eye to eight years of murder, with the Nazi's shelling, schools, hospitals and residential areas of the Donbas.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 12:57 utc | 35
Other thoughts.
State of cadavers:
Too well preserved to have been left out for two weeks - no decomposition and no bitemarks.
Claims that the bodies would survive outdoors in sub-zero temperatures are misinformation - check of Kiev's weather for last couple of weeks show only one day on which minimum temperature fell below zero (-2 March 28) while other days the high was 17C
Leave a body out for two weeks and it'll largely disappear, eaten by local carnivores/omnivores.
Satellite images:
All they prove is that something was lying in the street on that day. Not evidence that they were there until the day they were "found". Who requested the original satellite image and why did they request it. Who supplied it to the New York Times? Seen occasions where SBU supplied doctored images after events in 2014 to western media so it's very important to understand provenance.
What other satellite images exist? Can't help but think that US IC would have Ukraine on very regular satellite observation. That Pentagon says it has no evidence to verify this report, should be kiss of death for story as Pentagon unlikely to actually accuse Ukraine of lying.
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 5 2022 12:57 utc | 36
@Abe 19
Speaking of the beginning of WW2...
Germany invaded Poland after a number of border skirmishes, oppression of the German minority in Poland, and Polish general mobilization. Poland acted this way because the UK had been egging them on to escalate. Isn't there some similarity to today? The US getting Ukraine to shell Russian citizens, threatening to build nukes, and Russia finally invading? And just like the UK left Poland hanging back then, the US's only objective seems to be to drag out the war as long as possible and get as many Russians and Ukrainians killed as possible. Ukraine is the useful idiot like Poland was in 1939.
Posted by: aquileia | Apr 5 2022 13:04 utc | 37
No one has a complete story yet although after reading Joe Lauria's analysis and seeing a few videos of the people living in the area I feel it's another instance of cleansing presumed traitors by the Azov bataillion or some other members of the thugs who currently run Ukraine. However the event looks very convenient for the Western elites to exploit. Macron and friends are hiding behind the media coverage to further push their anti-Russia agenda.
The conclusion I draw from the whole thing is that the West won't negotiate with Russia and neither Zelensky will. Russia is in for a long conflict in Ukraine and they won't pay any attention to the Western MSM. Who in the MSM paid any attention to the torture inflicted on Russian POW's by the Ukrainian thugs? And what about eight years of silence on the 13,000 civilians killed in the Donbass area by the Ukrainian armed forces under NATO C3I?
During that time the agricultural output of Ukraine will decrease. Neither Russia nor Khazakstan will offer wheat on the export markets and everyone will suffer from high food prices later this year.
Posted by: Richard L | Apr 5 2022 13:09 utc | 38
War is atrocious.
One summer, decades ago, before going off to college,
I worked as a grounds keeper. My work supervisor had a strong Irish accent.
He had fought in WWII and one time he bragged and
laughed that he and other Irish soldiers would shoot
their English officers in the back when they had the
chance.
Posted by: librul | Apr 5 2022 13:09 utc | 39
Tom_12 (26).
Good point Tom Russia not being the overall goal, the ostracising of Russia by Europe plays into the hands of the US in not just an economic fashion but a military one as well, removing Russian produce, and businesses from the European market, and replacing both of them with US ones is as you say the core of the plan.
The Europeans have been suckered on this one, and are damaging their own economies (not Hungary) to comply with Nato, it will be the Europeans that suffer, and of course as Macron of France might find out soon enough, the people of the European nations, will speak with their votes, and with the cost of living skyrocketing the incumbent parties across Europe might find themselves out in the cold (pardon the pun) so to speak.
Money that could've been used to help citizens of European countries, in Nato over and above what is available to each country, will now be spent on upping military expenditure to satisfy the head of Nato the US, and the Military Industrial Complex will be rubbing their sweaty hands together in delight as the cash rolls in.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 13:10 utc | 40
@Abe lmfao,"racial composition" foh out here , disgusting reactionary cretin.
Posted by: Lolgege | Apr 5 2022 13:11 utc | 41
France to expel at least thirty Russian diplomats.
"France will expel “many” Russian diplomats, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs announced in a statement on Monday. Moscow, according to Russian media, has promised to respond to Paris' decision to expel the personnel.
According to the French foreign ministry, “this action is part of a European [sic] approach,” and the activities of diplomats targeted by these measures are contrary to France's security interests. According to the BFM TV channel, “about 30 Russian diplomats” will be affected by the decision."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 13:15 utc | 42
@ Abe | Apr 5 2022 12:57 utc | 34
Clearly, UkroNazis are your natural constituency, so be a good straight white fellow, fuck off and die.
Posted by: Laurence | Apr 5 2022 13:15 utc | 43
interesting item just n ow on colonel cassad
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/39908?single
"It turns out that the website of the National Police of Ukraine announced the cleansing of Bucha from "collaborators" on April 2. And a day later we were shown heaps of corpses."
Posted by: Guy Thornton | Apr 5 2022 13:17 utc | 44
Posted by: alaff | Apr 5 2022 12:55 utc | 32
What the Ukrops did was disgusting, but they did not use machine guns. They used SLRs which may have an auto switch. Using incorrect terminology plays into hands, of those who want to change the facts. A BMG .50 calibre M2 is a machine gun, a 5.56 SLR is not. Sorry for the pedanticism, but I spent much of my life as a gunnery rate.
Posted by: Cossack | Apr 5 2022 13:20 utc | 45
The EU is to send a team of investigators to Ukraine to work with Ukrainian authorities to build a case against Russia using "warcrimes" as its foundation. Its now evident in my opinion that the EU is a bias Western body that has ignored real warcrimes in the Donbas for eight years, but will now act with the Nazi's on phony warcrimes, this operation in Ukraine by Russia has exposed to the world what the EU really is, and its not a pretty picture if you ask me.
"The EU will send a team of investigators to Ukraine to probe alleged war crimes on the ground, EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced on Monday, after holding phone talks with the country’s president Volodymyr Zelensky. The move comes after multiple dead civilians were found in Bucha, a suburb of the capital, over the weekend, with Kiev promptly attributing the killings to Russian troops.
“This afternoon I spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the dreadful murders that have been uncovered in Bucha and other areas from which Russian troops have recently left,” von der Leyen said in a statement.
The investigative team dispatched by the EU will not act as an independent entity but will assist Ukrainian authorities in collecting evidence on site, the official signaled.
“The EU has set up a Joint Investigation Team with Ukraine to collect evidence and investigate war crimes and crimes against humanity,” von der Leyen explained. “The EU is ready to reinforce this effort by sending investigation teams on the ground to support the Ukrainian Prosecution Services. Eurojust and Europol are ready to assist.”"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 13:22 utc | 46
You and your host have just a head full of stupidity, no principal political convictions which would guide you through the class fights of the day so you just side with the enemy of your enemy regardless of his open fascism face
Posted by: thomas | Apr 5 2022 12:22 utc | 18
Yes, in today’s post factual world facts don’t matter, only convictions. Asshole.
Posted by: RJB | Apr 5 2022 13:29 utc | 47
The Nazi's have killed more civilians in other towns in Ukraine, expect this false flag to be added to the Bucha one. Similar false flag operations have been carried out by the Ukrainian side in the cities of Sumy, Konotop, Moschun and elsewhere.
"Ukrainian security services have staged more alleged killings of civilians in several towns and villages to make headlines in the Western media and accuse Moscow of war crimes, Russia’s Defense Ministry claimed on Tuesday.
Moscow insists that same tactics have been used by Kiev to blame Russian forces for atrocities in the town of Bucha last week.
“The troops of the 72nd Ukrainian Main Center for Psychological Operations conducted another staged filming of civilians allegedly killed by violent actions of the Russian armed forces in order for it to be distributed through the Western media,” the ministry’s spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said during a briefing.
According to “confirmed information,” the filming took place in the village of Moschun some 23km northwest of the Ukrainian capital Kiev on Monday, he insisted."
https://www.rt.com/russia/553328-ukraine-staged-killings-bucha/
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 13:33 utc | 48
... dreadful murders that have been uncovered in Bucha and other areas that UkroNazis had just entered ... —Ursula Fond o' Nazis
In ZioNazi Canada it's called policy based evidence making.
Posted by: Laurence | Apr 5 2022 13:34 utc | 49
RepublicofScotland @47
Incredible. It’s the same basic fraud they perpetrated in Syria via the politically controlled higher ups in the OPCW, recycled for use in Ukraine under the auspices of EU investigative “aides” who are there to lap up and regurgitate whatever narrative the Ukrainian special services (themselves advised by MI6) gives them. The whole thing will be presented as “proof” of Russian war crimes in Western media and the ignorant masses (those who are “paying attention”) will take it as gospel truth.
Posted by: WJ | Apr 5 2022 13:37 utc | 50
Posted by: thomas | Apr 5 2022 12:22 utc | 18
Translation:
-Take the side of NATO, idiots!
-Take the side of NAZIS, idiots!
-Push for regime change in Russia, idiots!
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 5 2022 13:42 utc | 51
Things in Ukraine just ratcheted up a notch with the Russian Capture of an American major general. He was leading / directing / advising the Asov battalion (Nazi) on attacking Russians. It implies quite a bit, and is a very, very serious event.
https://metallicman.com/geopolitics-robin-trower-chicken-fried-steak-pretty-chinese-girls/
Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Apr 5 2022 13:42 utc | 52
https://turcopolier.com/harper-can-putin-say-yes/
Harper seems to think things are going bad for Russia and Putin needs to be looking for a way to end this.
Contrast that with b's clear eyed take on things.
Posted by: morongobill | Apr 5 2022 13:44 utc | 53
WJ.(51)
Totally agree, the OPCW inspectors that uncovered the real truth in Syria with regards to chemical weapons being used were treated poorly, not believed, and removed from the case to keep the truth hidden, that it was a false flag and the treatment of those inspectors exposed the OPCW for what it is, a bias mouthpiece, one of many in the West, used to demonise whatever country comes into its crosshairs.
Here's the link to the EU story.
https://www.rt.com/russia/553295-eu-sending-war-crimes-investigators/
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 13:45 utc | 54
@Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 5 2022 13:42 utc | 52
You left off:
-Take the side of the Neocons, idiots!
Neocons and Nazis - that pretty much sums up what this war is about.
Posted by: librul | Apr 5 2022 13:46 utc | 55
Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Apr 5 2022 13:42 utc | 53
I won't believe this till I see ample servings of damning evidence.
But I sure hope it's true, and I sure hope that guy doesn't set foot outside of russian-controlled in his life, may he live a long healthy life full of impotence and regret.
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 5 2022 13:48 utc | 56
Posted by: aquileia | Apr 5 2022 13:04 utc | 38
You are discussing some micro actions, forgetting that Hitler had a strategic plan. The plan was to go East. He had to go through Poland.
Posted by: RJB | Apr 5 2022 13:49 utc | 57
The Russian ambassador at 3:00 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgwUTNMb9w says that when the Russians controlled Bucha that the residents had working cell phones and were free to post anything on social media.
Yet the world was not aware of the 'massacre' until it was revealed by the Uke govt.
Posted by: aquileia | Apr 5 2022 13:04 utc | 38
True, Ukies are more like purpose bred proxy than useful idiots Poles were on eve of WW2.
But the fact is, Germany was preparing for war since 1933 and Poland was in the way to east, simple as that. It served as false flag.
Ukraine today is not trigger for similar scenario as NATO is not ready or capable to attack Russia with idea to conquer anything. So similarity ends there with WW2 IMO. Ukieland is just new Afghanistan, not Poland, adleast that's how west imaganied it.
Posted by: Abe | Apr 5 2022 13:51 utc | 59
From @rybar, https://t.me/rybar/30578:
Bucha: analysis of new photos and satellite images from the Rybar team, part 1With the help of OSINT and GEOINT specialists (https://t.me/rybar/30413) we continue to conduct fact-checking and analyze incoming information from the locality of Bucha, located northwest of Kiev, from where Russian troops left at the end of March.
According to one of the versions (https://t.me/rybar/30416) On the Ukrainian side, the alleged massacre on Vokzalnaya and Yablonskaya Streets was on March 25. Today, satellite images from MAXAR are used as an irrefutable source of evidence: corpses should have been lying there already on March 19.
But the nuance is that on the 25th they were clearly not there — this is confirmed (https://t.me/rybar/30416?single) incomprehensible filming from the supposedly 25th. In fact, the shooting was done in early April — this is evidenced by puddles after rain.
That is, at the time of recording the video, there were no corpses near the pallets, which should have been lying there and decomposing for at least a week.
#Bucha #Ukraine
@rybar
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 13:54 utc | 60
Posted by: librul | Apr 5 2022 13:46 utc | 56
I find it slightly redundant, but it'd certainly be more comprehensive.
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 5 2022 13:56 utc | 61
Bucha: analysis of new photos and satellite images from the Rybar team, part 2At the moment, journalists have already been launched into the Butch. In the footage published by Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-street-corpse-with-hands-bound-bullet-wound-head-2022-04-03/ ) close-up shots of some bodies.
In one of the photos, very "fresh" hands: the man clearly had not been lying for two weeks and not even since the 25th.
The color of the hands is like that of a living person, but part of the fingers is as if the deceased lay in a puddle for a long time with one hand.
The bandage is perfectly white, which is quite strange.
Hands without swelling and other signs of binding during life.
The jeans are in the sand, but as if it was neatly stacked, rolling over from the right side a little forward. The stuck sand on the jeans goes under the jacket, the edge of the jacket is clean and dry. The jacket itself at the left shoulder bulges as if it was held.
The limbs of the bodies are tied to facilitate transportation.
▪️ There is no photo of this particular corpse not from the back.Does this mean that there are traces of transportation in the form of dirt on the stomach?
#Bucha #Ukraine
@rybar
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 13:58 utc | 62
https://t.me/rybar/30581?single
Bucha: analysis of new photos and satellite images from the Rybar team, part 3There are questions about other dead people.
▪a couple fell side by side, which practically does not happen. Even if several shooters were covered with fire, they would fall in different ways. And here, as a special pair, they lie with the same direction of movement.
▪a cyclist with straight legs. And he lies as if he was standing without getting off his bike and talking to someone. And this someone shot him. People who have fallen from a bicycle on the move do not lie like that.
▪clean gloves not worn on all fingers also raise questions. Who and why needed to put gloves on a corpse?
#Bucha #Ukraine
@rybar
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 14:01 utc | 63
https://t.me/rybar/30583?single
Bucha: analysis of new photos and satellite images from the Rybar team, part 4▪️ In MAXAR images, the source data is added in the editor. You can't trust them 100%.
▪️ There are pallets in the picture next to construction materials, in the video on March 25 (allegedly execution) - no.
In addition, one of the bodies on the satellite and in the video lies at different angles. Who moved it and why in the specified interval? There are no traces of equipment
Almost all the dead are in hoods. But if they were shot in the head, why are the hoods intact? Or were they carefully closed by the killers? How did it happen that not a single hood was thrown back by a shot/powder gases, if they were shot at point-blank range?
There are no damages on clothes in high-quality photos of foreign journalists.
If we assume that people were really killed there, then how were so many people killed at the same time on one street with a shot to the head?
#Bucha #Ukraine
@rybar
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 14:07 utc | 64
Another day, another epiphany.
Something that has shocked open my eyes even wider
is how paper thin is the difference between Nazi supporter
and not Nazi supporter.
Before Ukraine people would insist, and you would certainly believe,
that they would never support Nazis. Of course!
Now I see that it only takes one sentence -- *one sentence!* --
for someone to go from "never a Nazi supporter" to Nazi supporter.
Here it is:
"How can there be Nazis in Ukraine
if Zelensky is Jewish?"
That is it. One sentence and a "never a Nazi supporter"
becomes a supporter of the Nazi program in Ukraine.
How easy it is to manipulate people.
Scary stuff.
Posted by: librul | Apr 5 2022 14:13 utc | 65
Ghost Ship | Apr 5 2022 12:57 utc | 36
Re: decaying corpses on Ukrainian streets.
Thank you for a flash of empiricism in a sea of opinion.
What is difficult for myself in all of western "news" is the tendency for emotional thinking without sufficient data. This is IMHO the catalyst of war. Right now most people in the West have been conditioned to respond with fear and indignation with everything they read or hear without rational thought.
This, to me is the most frightening aspect of this situation.
Cheers!
Posted by: Michael.j | Apr 5 2022 14:14 utc | 66
@Abe 60 and @RJB 58
True, Hitler had a plan to expand eastward but he wanted to build up his military first. I was only talking about 1939 and in that year, he tried to keep peace with Poland because the German military wasn't going to be ready for another few years. But you're both right in that my analogy isn't perfect.
Posted by: aquileia | Apr 5 2022 14:18 utc | 67
@Keith Granger | Apr 5 2022 11:38 utc | 6
Timeline:
...
12th March: Chainsaw Arabia conducts mass execution (beheading) of 81 Saudi and non-Saudi citizens (41 Shi’a minority).
....
Western media: Crickets... (images of headless bodies and flowing blood on white marble mosque grounds - nil.)
Posted by: imo | Apr 5 2022 14:18 utc | 68
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2022 13:10 utc | 41
Uncle Scam loves his business model called Democracy Without Representation, which is nothing more than getting resources for next to nothing at gun point. NATO is an important element in this scam because it is a continuous drain on the resources of a country. Tax payer's wasted money on Uncle Scam's eternal wars for resources and markets transfers profits to the top 1% while the rest get crumbs, if even that. How could one not love such a scheme if one has no sense of justice and decency toward others. Two individuals that for me best embody such an attitude are Hillary Clinton and Madeleine Albright. Going the opposite direction it would be Hans Blix and Vladimir Putin.
"Revealing Ukraine" documentary by Igor Lopatonok & Oliver Stone nicely shows how Ukraine's once strong economy was nearly completely dismantled thanks to getting into bed with Uncle Scam. The height of absurdity being where Ukraine buys coal from Uncle Scam and South Africa (owners living in London).
Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 5 2022 14:19 utc | 69
Thanks b for airing the Bucha false flag.
Who are we to doubt…. the Defense official or the Commander-in-Chief !!!?
Yesterday, April 4, 2022 - Sputnik AM EDT
1 hour ago (Moscow)
US Can't Independently Confirm Reports of Alleged Atrocities in Bucha - Senior Defense Official
BUT then... 2 hours ago (Moscow)
Joe Biden Calls For 'War Crimes Trial' Against Russian President Putin
AND
UK refused Russia to have UNSC discuss the provocation in Bucha. UK is this month chair of the UNSC.
Why did UK refuse to discuss what was being proffered a war crime in Western media outlets?
After backlash, debate is was set for 5:00 PM EDT, April 5, 2022. Still a Maybe.
Today, April 5, 2022
https://sputniknews.com/20220405/kremlin-bucha-provocation-aimed-at-slandering-russia-1094498090.html
[..] Peskov, "the whole course of events, as well as a huge amount of data, facts, and other parameters clearly indicate that this is a forgery in order to try to tarnish the Russian Army". The Kremlin spokesman warned that such attempts will never be successful.
He also pointed to the conflicting statements on the Bucha provocation made by US President Joe Biden and the Pentagon."We draw [your] attention to the ongoing contradictions in the ranks of the Americans, when the president calls something a war crime, and the Pentagon makes a statement that it does not have accurate data that would allow us to come to such a conclusion. We simply record these facts", Peskov said.
When asked whether it is possible to hold a general meeting on this issue at the UN Security Council, Peskov said that Russian diplomats are working on this. (emphasis added)
[.]
Senator Rand Paul. Several days ago, said: “Biden is a national security risk”
Someone, anyone, for the security of the planet, act quickly to invoke the 25th amendment before the outcome of the slow federal prosecutor Grand Jury probe into the Bidens' foreign business monies. IRS is said to have a deep interest in that sweet $5 million interest-free loans.
Posted by: Likklemore | Apr 5 2022 14:25 utc | 70
Long time reader, first time poster here.
I have read all your takes on Europe: Europe being stupid, Europe being vassals, Europe being masochistic, etc and so on.
But somehow you fail to see the most obvious:
Europe WANTS higher energy prices because it equates to higher income from taxes.
Here, in the mother of all shithole communistic cancers - Sweden, they even tax the taxes.
Europe is still going the get their oil and gas from Russia, regardless. But from Azeri and Turkish pipelines. The only thing that differs is the perceived price. And the deals are already made.
Posted by: Romanov | Apr 5 2022 14:39 utc | 71
How can I live in a country that shows me it’s true face in such a brutal way? That shows me that all „never forget“ was folklore. That seems to be happy to finally be allowed to return to its roots: Hatred, racism and preparation of war.
Posted by: njet | Apr 5 2022 12:20 utc | 16
I am Norwegian - I stopped voting after Libya. This was the ones I had voted for and even represented locally.After what happened in Syria and how we treated Syrian refugees, I threw my national flag in the trash.But as long as I didn't bring it up, no one around me cared.
Now they want me to denounce Putin and I tell them to read up before they approach me at all. I don't need them - I got truth.
Posted by: Anne B | Apr 5 2022 14:41 utc | 72
Obviously the capture of senior US military officers directing forces in Ukraine would be a big deal. Is there ANY actual reporting on this?
Posted by: gottlieb | Apr 5 2022 14:42 utc | 73
Posted by: Likklemore | Apr 5 2022 14:25 utc | 71
"Someone, anyone, for the security of the planet, act quickly to invoke the 25th amendment..."
No thank you. For all his rhetoric, I suspect it is Joe who is listening to Pentagon over State Department. Don't forget he made the right decision in pulling US from Afghanistan.
If Harris becomes President we might as all our kill ourselves today.
Posted by: WJ | Apr 5 2022 14:43 utc | 74
Posted by: Romanov | Apr 5 2022 14:39 utc | 72
Interesting take, except for this little gem of right-winger doublethink:
"Here, in the mother of all shithole communistic cancers - Sweden"
Please. Words have definitions. Sweden is not even a republic. Sweden being communist is entirely out of the question.
Yes I acknowledge your right to your own opinion and your own grievances and I don't presume to know more about your country than you do.
But Sweden is not communist, regardless of your opinions (or mine) on Sweden, current swedish policy, or communism.
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 5 2022 14:53 utc | 75
"...I have come to consider the United States as a Death Cult, but now I wonder if the UK is the real cult leader, they seem to egg the US on and always go the extra mile to try and make things worse, and I've no idea why."
Lonkal@23
There are no politics left in the UK, which is run by an Establishment of which the Intelligence services are the most important part, after, of course, Finance.
Getting rid of Corbyn finished off the job which started decades ago of rooting out the sources of radicalism-the Trade Unions (now reduced to almost american uselessness) and the Labour party membership. Which has always been well to the left of the leaders and socialist in its beliefs.
Now Labour's membership has been purged in a way that has never happened in the past. All pretence of democracy is gone. There are no tomorrows for the membership.
Looking back over the past decade there has been a steady escalation in the pow of the Security Services- Assange, Skripal, taking over The Guardian (boy, was that easy!!), Libya, the series of false flags and proxies in Syria, all traceable to MI6, the transformation of the SNP (Tartan Tories) into the Fine Gael of the north. And finally the ascension of the half-American Johnson, a complete charlatan and, as the alternative the plain clothes cop Keir Starmer, of the Trilateral Commission.
The UK today makes the US look good. Its as bad as Canada.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2022 15:04 utc | 76
Posted by: Romanov | Apr 5 2022 14:39 utc | 72
You should go back to lurking and never comment again. Thanks!
Posted by: vato | Apr 5 2022 15:04 utc | 77
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/04/links-4-5-2022.html
Maxar Technologies, the source of the alleged satellite images, has close ties to the US DoD and, allegedly, the CIA?
“As a Maxar customer, the Department of Defense isn’t just a passive consumer of Maxar images; it is, in a way, a co-producer of those images.”
https://newrepublic.com/article/165910/maxar-ukraine-russia-satellite-images-war-propaganda
Posted by: Feral Finster | Apr 5 2022 15:10 utc | 78
Moreover, we are supposed to believe that the satellite images allegedly showing dead bodies were visible on the 11th, then disappeared in time for the Russian withdrawal, only to re-appear again afterwards.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Apr 5 2022 15:13 utc | 79
@ Arganthnoius 76
You are correct, I should have said conformistic instead.
@ vato 78
I am just getting warmed up.
Posted by: Romanov | Apr 5 2022 15:15 utc | 80
Hehe, the Maxar pictures provided by western MSM to prove the bodies on the street are doctored - shadows + the weather at the time do not match the overfly, https://t.me/rybar/30591?single:
Bucha: analysis of new photos and satellite images from the Rybar team, part 5We have already found out that Maxar satellites really flew over the Beech.
That's just the time of flight and the picture from the 19th do not correspond to each other.
Judging by the position of the shadows, the picture could have been taken at 11.30 (UTC+2, then it was winter time in Kiev). At the time of the actual satellite flyby around 9 a.m., the shadows should have looked different.
This can be seen in the diagrams.
We will not talk about such a trifle as the weather and only three sunny days at the end of March for the whole month. For a good satellite, this is not a problem.
Another thing is important: the recorded flight time does not correspond specifically to this Maxar snapshot.
It's not March 19th.
#Bucha #Kiev #Ukraine #fake
@rybar
Posted by: Boo | Apr 5 2022 15:15 utc | 81
Finally, a few more words about Maxar:
https://newrepublic.com/article/165910/maxar-ukraine-russia-satellite-images-war-propaganda
Sorry 'bout the paywall. I put it into an incognito window and was able to open.
Posted by: Feral Finster | Apr 5 2022 15:17 utc | 82
In response to
"
The UK today makes the US look good. Its as bad as Canada.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2022 15:04 utc | 77
"
LOL!!
The last I checked the UK and Canada were the same kingdom..../s
If there were not so much as stake this might be funny
The shit show can't end soon enough for me.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 5 2022 15:24 utc | 83
Zelensky to UN: Russia is seeking to turn Ukrainians into silent slaves!
Me: sure. But will sale them only for Rubles.
Posted by: Arioch | Apr 5 2022 15:25 utc | 84
you can not negotiate with these nations. country founded on massacre, genocide and spreading smallpoxnon blankets while negotiating peace. a cou try that dropped nuclear bombs and fire bombed civilians while negotiating peace. a country that tortures and experiments on their own citizens. a country that assasinates its own leaders when negotiating peace.
the onky response to ending this madness, it an equal response, full nuc!ear and invasion and complete utter destruction of dc from the east coast to the west coast pacific, burning and sufficating all the parasites hiding in their holes. and when they rise from ashes, pour gasoline and fire bomb them until every last stone building is dust. than procede to europe and repeat with davos/brussels/switzerland bankers that continue funding this every generation.
Posted by: scv | Apr 5 2022 15:31 utc | 85
Cui Bono?
Chemical attacks in Syria made ZERO sense for attribution to the Syrian government which had the upper hand in the war at that point and ONLY a chemical attack/use of WMDs would pull/suck in Western warmongers. This is the exact same thing. UK is doing the propaganda work for US audiences (who continue to [fund] shell out their future for the arms industry's oligarchs).
No liquids/bodily fluids around the corpses? Either these were mopped up or the corpses were moved away from such.
Posted by: Seer | Apr 5 2022 15:32 utc | 86
The article declares Ukraine has lost everything. "They have the choice of giving up or getting destroyed in place."
If this is true, then there is no reason for Putin to settle for just half of Ukraine. Why limit himself to the east? Nobody can stop him from taking it all.
Insurgency? Leaving a rump state in the West, supplied by NATO and urged on to insurgency already trained for, is a recipe for endless insurgency. NATO would wish for that, even if it is crushing defeat for Ukraine itself.
Putin can't avoid insurgency by leaving NATO in control of half of Ukraine. That ship sailed when he was pushed into war to limit NATO expansion. He won't now hand over NATO expansion into half, if he can avoid it.
It is now all gone. It is only a question of how many are driven out Syria-style in order to create the equivalent of Assad's government.
Biden and Blinken over reached, and it has blown up in their faces. The sanctions are causing trouble elsewhere in the world, as noted in the next article below. The combination of disaster in Ukraine and disaster elsewhere ought to deflate the rush of rally-to-the-war promoted by Biden's political supporters in the press.
Posted by: Mark Thomason | Apr 5 2022 15:38 utc | 87
Not enough emphasis on all the pro Russian people getting killed by Zelinsky s naziz and bandidos. It s probably in the thousands by now, but the so called newsies plus the alternate folks will pass on this.
Posted by: Гмк | Apr 5 2022 15:39 utc | 88
Rufus Arrr | Apr 5 2022 13:42 utc | 53
Pure click-bait troll...
Posted by: donten | Apr 5 2022 15:43 utc | 89
The Catholic church used to consider starting or prolonging wars of lost causes to be serious crimes and sins. You had to justify why you at least thought you had a chance of achieving your goals.
Posted by: Altai | Apr 5 2022 15:44 utc | 90
@scv | Apr 5 2022 15:31 utc | 86
Massacres, genocide, smallpox blankets: That was Europeans who did that!
Nuking and firebombing cities: That was a humanitarian act because it saved lives!
Torture and human experiments: But the Nazis did it, too!
Posted by: WhyCantWeJusGetAlong | Apr 5 2022 15:47 utc | 91
Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2022 15:04 utc | 77
Dual citizens should NEVER be allowed to hold top-ranking public offices, ANYWHERE. Ditto for naturalized foreigners or whatever other scheme for granting nationality to people who originally had a different nationality (unless such previous nationality no longer exists, period)
If they want to lead a party, fine, if they're present in other ranks, fine, but every top office should be held by strict nationals.
It's just too big a backdoor, and it serves no overriding interest in favor of the potential host nation.
Posted by: Arganthonios | Apr 5 2022 15:49 utc | 92
@ alaff
Brilliant post on your blog.
Fascization of Europe 2.0
Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Apr 5 2022 15:50 utc | 93
They just can't get enough of the stuff, at Reuters. Any of you guys interested? ;-)
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Apr 5 2022 15:53 utc | 94
EU politicians simply cannot be this incompetent or stupid. Simply put, these are actions that will be felt by their populations with sky rocketing prices from food to any energy within weeks and this will cause unrest within the month. So, what on earth are they playing at as I am sure they are aware of all the consequences.
Posted by: maria | Apr 5 2022 15:54 utc | 96
Russia made a big mistake of surrounding cities, and giving hope to pro Russian elements who stood up but are now being cleansed by the Nazis and regime. Not sure a way around that problem but it's happening. Russia should have just decided to conquer the whole country from the start.
Posted by: Wilbur | Apr 5 2022 15:59 utc | 98
Posted by: bevin | Apr 5 2022 15:04 utc | 77
Not sure I agree with your sentiment. The Establishment has always been there in UK but it never stopped Harold Wilson refusing to commit British troops to Vietnam. It did not stop Ed Miliband blocking UK bombing Syria.
As for Corbyn. He was ineffectual like Michael Foot but he was never "anti-Semitic" - that was simply the path to his removal and replacement by Starmer whose wife and children are "aligned" and he has been a very supportive deputy to Alex Johnson as PM. Labour is populated by deadbeat MPs and a nonsensical Front Bench.
Security Services probably have far less power today than when Stella Rimmington was using MI5 to frame Arthur Scargill or when Kincora Boys' Home was being used to blackmail gay child abusers........after John Scarlett and Alastair Campbell Box 600 is highly discredited
The simple fact is the Voting Public is fat and lazy and binged out on credit and has not one inkling of how to organise, articulate, and protest. They lined up for injections, stayed at home when ordered, and lap up propaganda like pigs at a trough.
The System has not changed - it is simply emboldened by the docility of the taxpayers and voters. Democracies always end this way because they are like public conveniences - everyone gets to use them and many simply foul them. A population that neither reads books nor listens to spoken argument but wallows in video imagery is defeated.
That is how The West was Lost
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 5 2022 16:00 utc | 99
The last I checked the UK and Canada were the same kingdom..../s
Funny that because it never was !
Canada was never a Kingdom it was a Dominion under Act of Parliament - British North America Act 1867, 1871, 1886, 1907, 1915, 1916, 1930, 1940, 1943, 1946, 1949,
Five of the British North America Acts were enacted by the Parliament of Canada; namely those of 1952, 1965, 1974, 1975, and 1975 (No. 2). The other fifteen were enacted by the Imperial Parliament in London.
Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Apr 5 2022 16:05 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
What I dont get is there are no photos of grieving mothers, sisters and family etc. The bodies arent covered either. This is strange considering they are supposed to be local civilians who probably lived on nearby streets (if western media is to be believed). Surely, if these are "locals" their families wd av attended to them, at least out of respect. But no. They lay there for 4 days.....indeed, the US satellite story suggests they have been there for 4 weeks.....I don't get that..
Posted by: Hermius | Apr 5 2022 11:14 utc | 1