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April 12, 2022

How The U.S. Does 'Diplomacy'

The U.S. doesn't do diplomacy. Every country has its own interests. But the U.S. and its pricks in the State Department insist that its interests must have priority over all others. Any country that disagrees with that will be called out on this or that issue or will even get sanctioned.

March 19 2022: President Xi Jinping Has a Video Call with US President Joe Biden

The two sides exchanged views on the situation in Ukraine.

President Biden expounded on the US position, and expressed readiness for communication with China to prevent the situation from exacerbating.

President Xi pointed out that China does not want to see the situation in Ukraine to come to this. China stands for peace and opposes war. This is embedded in China’s history and culture. China makes a conclusion independently based on the merits of each matter. China advocates upholding international law and universally recognized norms governing international relations. China adheres to the UN Charter and promotes the vision of common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable security. These are the major principles that underpin China’s approach to the Ukraine crisis.

March 21 2022: US announces new sanctions on Chinese officials over ‘repressive acts’

The State Department said it would impose visa restrictions on Chinese officials it said are believed to be responsible for “policies or actions aimed at repressing religious and spiritual practitioners, members of ethnic minority groups, dissidents, human rights defenders, journalists, labor organizers, civil society organizers, and peaceful protestors in China and beyond.”

April 11 2022: Ukraine dominates Modi-Biden talks

Mr. Modi, who spoke via videolink to Mr Biden, described the situation in Ukraine as “very worrying” and said he had spoken, several times, with both Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Russian President Vladimir Putin and had not just urged peace, but also direct talks between them. India’s unwillingness to call out Russia by name for its attack on Ukraine has not gone down well in Washington, but U.S. officials have also said that they hoped countries that have relationships with Moscow might leverage them to bring about a resolution to the situation.

April 12 2022: US Monitoring "Rise In Human Rights Abuses" In India: Antony Blinken

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States was monitoring what he described as a rise in "human rights abuses" in India by some officials, in a rare direct rebuke by Washington of New Delhi.

"We regularly engage with our Indian partners on these shared values (of human rights) and to that end, we are monitoring some recent concerning developments in India including a rise in human rights abuses by some government, police and prison officials," Mr Blinken said on Monday in a joint press briefing with US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defense Minister Rajnath Singh.

January 10 2022: Chas Freeman - Diplomacy as an Instrument of Statecraft: A Practicum

What distinguishes diplomats from courtiers, securocrats, and other bureaucrats in a national capital is a reliance on empathy: the ability to see the world through other eyes and to use this insight to induce others to see their interests the way the diplomat wants them to see them. It takes more than a diplomatic passport, position, or title to make someone a “diplomat.” Diplomacy, like other skilled work, requires knowhow gained through training, mentoring, on-the-job experience, and awareness of historical precedents. It is a calling and a role, not a job title.

Yet diplomacy remains at best a proto-profession in the United States, thanks to the uniquely American reliance on the political spoils system to staff even key national security functions. This makes diplomatic appointments to benefit appointees and their political parties rather than the country. It thereby enshrines amateurism and incompetence. As the New York Herald-Tribune put it in 1857, in the United States “diplomacy is the sewer through which flows the scum and refuse of the political puddle. A man not fit to stay at home is just the man to send abroad.” Only one thing has changed about this in the last 165 years. Female campaign donors and celebrities now compete with men for appointments to what they imagine are ambassadorial sinecures in plummy places abroad, leaving seedy and dangerous places to lifers.

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Arioch | Apr 12 2022 16:59 utc | 87

It was intended to be boringly plain, and even at that would be regarded as heresy, blasphemy, or treason here in the land of milk and honey, because as everyone knows we are not an empire.

But I understand your point. Once, while digging into the past to try to understand all the intricacies of the '53 Iranian coup I came across a quote from MA that (probably paraphrased, as I don't have a photographic memory): "The 1953 coup in Iran was the worst failure of western foreign policy in my lifetime." Don't recall if that was from a book she authored or from spoken remarks, but those words were before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which surely gives the Iranian betrayal a run for the money, though I consider the '53 coup to be a seminal event in modern world history. The clueless, dumbed-down, propagandized US populace may not have known what transpired then, but the whole of the ME saw and understood what had been done.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Apr 12 2022 17:37 utc | 101

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:32 utc | 98

His trial will end up on YouTube, rumble, etc. He won't be forgotten by the lugen presse in UK, methinks.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 17:37 utc | 102

@mastameta,
It’s not really an “exam”. It’s proctored byFSOs and consists of a couple of parts, that include a group exercise, an “interview” and a written memo. Essentially it’s a game where it looks like you’re competing with the other applicants but really it’s against the proctors. The interview is with two FSOs and is near interrogation where one asks and the other observes. Questions about personal experience (give us an example of your professional integrity) and a hypothetical that gets modified as you go. New information, now what’s your course of action.

The other sections are tightly timed and you get a background on a hypothetical nation and a hypothetical situation. In the group each person is given a “project” to present. One project must be fully funded and then the allotted funds can be split up. The FSOs sit in the corner and observe. Most applicants assume their score will be on whether their randomly assigned project is funded, but really the proctors want to see the process of consensus building. So better score if you lead the consensus building process than if your project “wins”.

Basically, they spend all day trying to stress you out and foment competition between the applicants. It’s actually quite a lot of fun, IMO. Or maybe that’s only if you realize the rules of the game. Most were super uptight all day. (I already knew I wouldn’t take the job, that probably helped me.)

Posted by: Lex | Apr 12 2022 17:41 utc | 103

Not surprised, The American diplomacy is a complete reflection on how USA was created and is governed ever since, basically the state institutions and system of governance is inspired designed and implemented like a Mafia organization. It’s means of state organization a elitist hierarchy which everybody in contact or working for it must adhere to the interest of family first or will be coerced with any and every mean to do so. In return whoever wants to protect its interest against this Mafia state, will have to coerce them by every means possible, Americans as their history show only and only understand painful force if financial or military and else.

Posted by: Kooshy | Apr 12 2022 17:43 utc | 104

@101 And just wait till Sean Penn gets on the case. This will be bigger than Kenosha.

Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2022 17:43 utc | 105

The latest from Mariupol via WarGonzo

On the breakthrough from Mariupol. Rumours and discrepancies abound. Here is what is known to @wargonzo project, I'll break it down into boxes and figures.

There were about 1,500 neo-Nazis (Azov fighters and AFU fighters) at the Ilyich plant at the time of the breakthrough.

About 800 of them were going to go to the breakthrough in the first column, while the rest had to leave through the corridor they had cut through.

The convoy consisted of about 120 vehicles, including vehicles. At the head of the convoy were a tank, two Gvozdika self-propelled vehicles and up to 10 BMPs, as well as MTLBs, armoured vehicles and trucks.

More than 100 Ukrainian marines surrendered. Including the deputy commander of the 36th AFU Marine Brigade.

More than half of those who were about to break through retreated back to the factory. Several dozen were destroyed by an artillery strike by the DNR. Up to 10 groups of 3-4 were scattered and tried to break through the encirclement. The operation to find and eliminate them is ongoing.

Hence there is evidence of a second smaller breakthrough. We are talking about these wandering groups, which the special forces and fighters at the posts engage in combat with in case of detection. Hence the more thorough checking of cars on the Volnovakha-Mariupol highway.

So no panic.

@wargonzo

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Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:46 utc | 106

Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2022 17:43 utc | 104

After sucking on Sean hannity's dick, everything is possible for that whore. I thought he's got some integrity after defending Maduro, but apparently everyone in Hollywood has got their price...

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 17:47 utc | 107

Part 2:

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⚡️ PHOTO 18+⚡️ Azov group liquidated during attempted breakthrough⚡️

The @wargonzo project has obtained photos of the Azov group of 5 militants liquidated in a counter-terrorist operation between Mangush and Yalta (the one on the Sea of Azov).

The operation to identify and eliminate small groups of the enemy began yesterday immediately after an unsuccessful attempt to break through from the Illich plant. As we wrote earlier, several groups (up to 10) scattered and attempted to infiltrate Zaporizhzhia after the DNR's warning strike. They are being identified and eliminated. The photo is just one of these groups.

@wargonzo

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Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:47 utc | 108

More from New Resistance:

💢 People have wondered how many 'high value persons" are trapped along with the (Nazi) Azov Battalion at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.

(1) Azovstal is one of the largest steelworks on the planet, where coal is coked and iron ore becomes steel. It's a huge facility.

(2) Azovstal was transformed into a massive base for Azov, and designed to transform Mariupol into a medieval-style fortress. The French were over-confident that Mariupol would not fall.

All this may explain why the head of French military intelligence was sacked.

We receive information from Paris that allows us to complete the Mariupol "puzzle" and understand many of the still unclear issues surrounding the situation in the city.

As you know, the territory of Ukraine was divided into specific areas of responsibility of NATO countries. And in Mariupol there was a large intelligence center of the French Armed Forces, acting in the interests of the alliance and the Kiev regime.

At some points, its personnel reached hundreds of specialists, but by the time the battle for the city began, there were 53 officers of the French military intelligence DGSE.

Why they didn't leave earlier is unknown. It is possible that they have decided to continue collecting information until the last moment. However, when the last opportunity for evacuation came, they could not leave, because evacuation attempts have failed, but also perhaps because the Azov militants with whom the French interacted simply did not let them out.

Seeing what was going on, the Nazis decided to use them as a guarantee that they themselves would be pulled out of the cauldron.

In addition to the French, in Mariupol there is a group of mercenaries - former and current officers from Canada, Sweden and Great Britain, as well as a detachment of Syrian Turkomans (takfiris) with extensive experience in urban combat in Syria. The total number of these volunteers is not exactly established. Among them may be career intelligence officers from the Canadian CSIS, Swedish MUST and British MI-6, who like to use the status of a mercenary as a cover.

So they were trapped, too. I'll add it on my own: Judging by the way Greek diplomats were active in this area, it can be assumed that the military from this country was also involved. Moreover, Zelensky even showed two Greek mercenaries to the Greek parliament.

The eternal actor Tsipras feigned disgust, only to conceal the real role of the very same Greek intelligence services which he himself is compromised by.

To get out his hapless scouts, Macron began calling the Kremlin, to which he received assurances that Russian troops, if Paris met a number of conditions (the content of which was not disclosed by the French), were ready to give a corridor, but to resolve the issue with Azov, which does not let foreigners out, you need to talk to Zelensky.

But Zelensky also an actor, has no control over the Azov Nazis nor perhaps is even interested in getting out the French "trapped" in Mariupol (which would deprive Paris of room for maneuver and possibly contribute to an increased EU-Russia confrontation). In any case, he was unable or unwilling to help his French counterpart.

Chancellor Scholz came to Macron's aid on March 18, and on March 20, with Moscow's consent, a rescue team of German military intelligence officers from the BND was sent to Mariupol. But the "Azovites", believing that this is the only hope for them to escape from the encircled city, having prompted Kiev to un-block it, turned the Germans into hostages, despite guarantees from the AFU command and the command (or rather, representative office) of the Azov regiment located in Kiev.

Pt. 1

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:51 utc | 109

Part 2

💢As a result, Vladimir Putin began to call not only Macron, but also Scholz. The Russian side (in exchange for a number of certain concessions from Berlin and Paris) agreed to release everyone – both intelligence officers, Azov fighters and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but after disarmament and certain verification measures against everyone leaving the city. And this proposal was rejected by the Ukrainian side.

After that, an enraged Macron on March 30 dismissed the head of French military intelligence Eric Vido.

This was followed by attempts to evacuate the French and Germans with the help of AFU helicopters, which were unsuccessful. As we know, helicopters were shot down by anti-aircraft crews of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the DPR.

It is likely that the evacuation arrangements with the Kremlin included mandatory, albeit tacit, contact between evacuees and their Russian counterparts, and the attempt to circumvent this condition caused Russian discontent, which was expressed in the five downed helicopters.

It is unfortunately a practice in some cultures to use the 'force of the situation' to change the terms on a whim. To smuggle in some ulterior last minute plan, contrary to the agreement.

Incidentally, it is not a fact that these downings took out foreigners. There were no French or Germans in the helicopter that was shot down over land. There were two Frenchmen in one of the ones that fell into the sea.

It is obvious that Azov continued to hold them, and two were 'released' to persuade whoever is making any decisions at this point, to release their comrades. A common terrorist practice. According to radio intercept data, 21 Frenchmen were "killed".

The last attempt to get the foreigners out was made by the Turks. Erdogan requested a sea evacuation from Mariupol. Russians agreed, but with a reservation - from Berdyansk, just west of Mariupol. That is, the meeting of Western intelligence officers with their Russian counterparts was still a prerequisite. But this attempt also failed.

Pt. 2

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:51 utc | 110

Part 3 and the last part

💢Now everyone who is still alive (if there are any left) of the Foreign intelligence officers and military specialists held in Mariupol are concentrated at Azovstal to serve as human shields for the Nazis.

The cabal in control of Zelensky throws out the entire command of Azov in Mariupol out of the proverbial helicopter. The European intelligence officers meet their end. It is a high risk job, as they say.

Since the intelligence officers of NATO and Sweden are of great operational interest to the Russian special services, and the very fact of their capture can produce a huge propaganda effect, as well as become a serious trump card for putting pressure on Western countries, efforts were made to take them alive.

This circumstance greatly hindered the assault on Azovstal and made it impossible to launch powerful bomb and artillery strikes on the militant fortifications on the Azovstal compound.

But judging by the fact that now the intensity of the artillery and aviation has seriously increased, either there was information that the foreigners were "executed" by the "Azovites" in order to avoid their detention by the Russian special services, or in order not to put the lives of our soldiers at unnecessary risk, Russian generals simply gave up on them.

Paris urges the Russian leadership not to make public the fact that French intelligence officers are in Mariupol. Macron is in an election, and the scandal that has broken out may negatively affect his rating and the possibility of re-election.

It should be noted that the French president himself not only "leaked" confidential information from the Russian-French negotiations on several occasions, but also deliberately distorted it. So in this sense, the Kremlin should not have any restrictions. And, most likely, information about the French in Mariupol is just waiting for the right moment to "bury" Macron, who has established himself as an independent, dishonest and unscrupulous partner.

In the final analysis, this does not mean that Russia intends to use this to foist Le Pen into the presidency.

It is a fact that the Russian media campaign was the driving force behind the Yellow Vests. It is also a fact that Russian interests are very much involved with Le Pen and types of Euroscepticism of that variety.

I myself had the pleasure to meet her father, perhaps better known to the world a generation ago, who was present to give awards at an event organized by an association I presided over. So I understand the Russian involvement in this arena.

But the forces behind Macron have also shown signs of 'life', that is to say, of a sovereign French position. We can look at Russo-French collaboration against Turkey on the terrain of Libya, who together backed Haftar.

Now perhaps we will only come to know what became of the foreign officers at Mariupol through leaks, information requests, parliamentary inquiries, and more of the same, in the coming years.

For now, it is quite likely most these men are dead and gone.

Still, I am looking intently and closely at what is uncovered in the catacombs spanning many square kilometers, under Azovstal.

Pt. 3 - End

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:52 utc | 111

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:52 utc | 110

By now, who and what is hiding in Azovstal is its own genre of speculative fiction, Azov noir, if you will.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 17:57 utc | 112

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:52 utc | 110

"Paris urges the Russian leadership not to make public the fact that French intelligence officers are in Mariupol. Macron is in an election, and the scandal that has broken out may negatively affect his rating and the possibility of re-election."

I'd show them the middle finger. Thanks to the support of these guys Russian soldiers were dying !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tom_12 | Apr 12 2022 17:59 utc | 113

What we are currently looking at in Ukraine is US diplomacy.
Yanks have no understanding of how much shit they have stepped into. Uk is doing its best to encourage the dumfucks to step in deeper.
the poms, headed by the court jester, nazi white helmets... that video of a russian tank rocking up to a ukie selfie party.

US bullshit - the famed information warfare vs Russian firepower and honesty. The US world narrowed down to nato minions, Astralia, NZ, Japan.

Pakistan will be interesting. An anti US revolution. Huge amount of support for Imran Khan there. yeah... US diplomacy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 18:02 utc | 114

Jonathan Cook's latest:

Why Zelensky’s dream of Ukraine becoming 'big Israel' makes Moscow nervous

https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2022-04-12/zelensky-ukraine-big-israel/

The Ukrainian president’s comparison bolsters Moscow’s claim that Kyiv is intent on a programme of violent ‘de-Russification’

Middle East Eye – 12 April 2022

The Israeli government has been trying to keep as low a profile as possible over the war in Ukraine, but Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, seems determined to drag Israel on to centre stage.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 18:07 utc | 115

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 12 2022 18:02 utc | 113

Re Pakistan:
This one is only just beginning! I can see a REAL revolution brewing there. As you say, dumbfuck Gringo motherfuckers (I added the last bit). They step in shit and drag it all over the place! It'll only end when the Empire of Lies ends!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 18:10 utc | 116

Caitlin Johnstone has a current example of US armtwisting (I mean diplomacy) in action

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/04/12/us-suddenly-pretends-to-care-about-rights-abuses-in-india/#comment-78778

suddenly the US is very, very concerned about human rights in India.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 12 2022 18:12 utc | 117

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 17:37 utc | 101

His trial will end up on YouTube, rumble, etc. He won't be forgotten by the lugen presse in UK, methinks.

I bet there won't be a trial. The Russians will end up releasing "a sadly misguided young man" and send him back to Blighty as a gesture of "goodwill".

As an immense fan of the Russians, it disappoints me to see what suckers they have been in the past. I will be pleasantly surprised if it turns out otherwise this time, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Herr Ringbone | Apr 12 2022 18:15 utc | 118

@ Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:52 utc | 110

thanks for the 3 part story... we'll see... maybe this overview is accurate and correct... thanks either way...

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2022 18:23 utc | 119

"suddenly the US is very, very concerned about human rights in India."

Posted by: pretzelattack | Apr 12 2022 18:12 utc | 116

Pushing India into the Russia-China-Iran-alliance?
I start to believe there must be somebody really evil behind this satanic strategy.
Must be Putin. No doubt.

Posted by: njet | Apr 12 2022 18:27 utc | 120

@117 Maybe no trial unless he is charged with something specific. As a POW he may have to wait a year or three for a prisoner exchange. Putin has to be careful not to disappoint the Chechens.

Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2022 18:29 utc | 121

Interesting read by Engdahl

Amid the ongoing global inflation crisis, NATO heads of state and mainstream media repeat a mantra that high energy prices are a direct result of Putin’s actions in Ukraine since end of February.

The reality is that it is the western sanctions that are responsible. Those sanctions including cutting SWIFT interbank access for key Russian banks and some of the most severe sanctions ever imposed, are hardly having an impact on the military actions in Ukraine. What many overlook is the fact that they are increasingly impacting the economies of the West, especially the EU and USA.

A closer look at the state of the global supply of diesel fuel is alarming. But Western sanctions planners at the US Treasury and the EU know fully well what they are doing. And it bodes ill for the world economy.


NATO Sanctions and the Coming Global Diesel Fuel Disaster

Posted by: Down South | Apr 12 2022 18:36 utc | 122

Portuguese & Italian journalist are with Russian troops in the most advanced position in Mariupol. The piece will be on CNN Portugal at some stage tomorrow.

https://t.me/brunocarvalhoDonbass

https://twitter.com/bcarloscarvalho/status/1513945507474853897?s=21&t=GY-S2qJkORmGC6eHTu3i1g

Posted by: Maria | Apr 12 2022 18:40 utc | 123

Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2022 18:29 utc | 120

That's my thinking as well. If the Russians have evidence his battalion have participated in murders and shootings, especially non combatants, they'll string him properly.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 18:44 utc | 124

God help us all if Russia does expose a secret Western-backed nuclear weapons development program in Ukraine.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 12 2022 15:27 utc | 54

They have already. It is the reason the secured two nuclear sites early on in the the SMO

Zelenskyy and Munich 2022

On February 19 in Munich, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy made his threat to deploy nuclear weapons on Ukrainian territory. He expressed this as his unilateral revocation of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, although Ukraine was not a signatory of the agreement. Two days later on the evening of February 21, Putin made his speech recognizing the sovereign independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. He explicitly referenced Zelenskyy’s Munich nuclear weapons pledge: “This is not empty bravado,” Putin stressed in his speech.

On March 6 Moscow state news agency, RAI Novosti, quoted a senior Russian SVR foreign intelligence source with details on a secret Ukraine project, reportedly with vital covert Western support, to build a Ukrainian nuclear missile capability and a Ukrainian atom bomb in brazen violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. According to the report, Ukrainian nuclear scientists were disguising the developments by locating them near the high-radiation levels of Chernobyl nuclear reactor site, an explanation for the swift Russian moves to secure Chernobyl. “It was there, judging by the available information, that work was underway both on the manufacture of a “dirty” bomb and on the separation of plutonium,” RIA Novosti quotes the source.

The primary bomb research facility was located at the National Scientific Center, “Kharkov Institute of Physics and Technology.” As of this writing reports of fierce fighting underway between Russian forces and neo-nazi Ukrainian Azov fighters who reportedly are planning to blow up the research reactor site and blame it on Russia. The battle for control of the large Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is also apparently part of the attempt to conceal the illegal Ukraine bomb project.

It now begins to become more clear that Putin had serious reason to react at the Ukraine nuclear threat. A Ukrainian nuclear missile within six minutes of Moscow would present existential danger whether Ukraine were in NATO or not.


Ukraine and the Deeper Global Suicide Agenda

Posted by: Down South | Apr 12 2022 18:44 utc | 125

There is something that Ukrainians fail to understand. Apart from being used as cannon fodder in a proxy war against Russians, they are being eliminated and recycled, just like old Soviet weapons are being eliminated and recycled on the battlefield.

Except for Russians, no one needs Ukrainians. However and whenever this war ends, there will be no more Ukrainian people, both politically and ethnically.

Many are fleeing to Europe and will be assimilated there genetically, culturally and mentally. “Almost European” Ukrainians will be quite pragmatically used to refresh Europe’s aging white populations to dilute the flow of Middle Eastern and African migrants (second rate is still better than the third). They will never return to Ukraine. Some go to Russia and will maybe return to Donbass which is, like it or not, Russia. Some will be killed in action or perish. Mostly young people. And this depopulation is part of the Western plan.

My dear Ukrainians, if you read this, do you know why this is part of the plan? Because, in the eyes of your Western friends, you are… Russians.
https://readingjunkie.com/2022/04/12/my-dear-ukrainians/

Posted by: Ian Kummer | Apr 12 2022 18:44 utc | 126

Barofsky,

What is meant by this?

It is a fact that the Russian media campaign was the driving force behind the Yellow Vests. It is also a fact that Russian interests are very much involved with Le Pen and types of Euroscepticism of that variety.

Do you have any links that explain the alleged Russian role in the yellow vest protests/strikes? That's the first I've heard of it.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2022 18:56 utc | 127

Video of Coutier's Arrest!

https://twitter.com/CatVR/status/1513583672129118209?s=20&t=CwurPqaIEfp4l9vwvwZoTQ

In the words of Obama: we got him. Marines General Cloutier arrested by Russian army alongside...2 member[s] of [the] French secret service of DGSE. Major embarrassment for NATO

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:00 utc | 128

https://twitter.com/CatVR/status/1513583672129118209?s=20&t=CwurPqaIEfp4l9vwvwZoTQ
- this page does not exist is all I see.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Apr 12 2022 19:05 utc | 129

French reporter returning from Ukraine "Americans are directly in charge of the war on the ground."
https://twitter.com/antiwar_soldier/status/1513596067442569227

That is how the US does diplomacy

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 19:06 utc | 130

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2022 18:56 utc | 126

Tom, yes I caught that as well. Hmmmm... blowing smoke in our eyes? I'll pass it by the author, who is, I believe American. They have a later post, allegedly describing the underground at Azovstal but it reads like movie script, so I'm starting have my suspicions, although the early unsubstantiated pieces on Cloutier, that I came across at least 2 weeks ago, turned out to be correct. But the Yellow 'Waistcoats', okay translation error. Russia's RT covered the Yel, low Vests quite a lot and then suddenly not, Kremlin intervention?

The thing about RT (I wrote a couple of stories about it, a long time ago), is that it's NOT funded by the Kremlin but by the Russian State Duma, or Parliament, which not (quite) the same thing. Let's see if the author wants to talk eh.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:08 utc | 131

Posted by: Hausmeister | Apr 12 2022 19:05 utc | 128

Yes, not now but there's a still photo of the guy head bowed but it looks like him. I think it's likely it's been removed, after all, Twitter is a wholly owned subsidiary of USG! I wish you could put photos up here! Grrrhh

Here's the Telegram link: https://t.me/c/1262772134/10284

I'm not sure it'll work, try it.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:13 utc | 132

@Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:13 utc | 131

Doesn't work. You have to be member of that private group.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 19:16 utc | 133

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:13 utc | 131

Hmm, it's not linking on my telegram. What channel is this?

Also, there so many fakes...

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:17 utc | 134

"I'll pass it by the author, who is, I believe American."
Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:08 utc | 130

What is your source?
Cant you give a link?
Cannot find this on WarGonzo / Telegram

Posted by: njet | Apr 12 2022 19:18 utc | 135

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 19:16 utc | 132

Well I'm a member of it and there's no reason why anybody can join, it's MintPress News' Channel. Lt me see if I can invite you (I was an Administrator awhile back, not sure what that meant tho).

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:20 utc | 136

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:20 utc | 135

I just joined that channel and can't see anything related to cloutier. Btw, the interview with Michael Tracy is excellent, watched it today.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:25 utc | 137

You are right, b, the US doesn't do 'diplomacy. But used to be they 'don't' do so with some degree of sophistications, knew when to push and when to back-off, and had the absolute power of dominance to whip all ducklings in line to their dictates. NOT ANY MORE, I'm afraid!

Used to be USA accounted for 50%+ of real global trade related economies including strategic commodities and armaments. Strategic commodities made other nations nervous about their own developments when scarcities arose; armaments made other nations nervous when conflicts arose. USA was in exalted position. It sneezed and most other nations caught colds, even their weaker counterpart, the other 'Superpower' USSR. When USSR dissolved, there was indeed ONLY ONE SUPERPOWER! Oh time was good. USA people and government officials grew fat, soft, dumb, and ignorant. The ignorance and incompetence were seeded and cultivated at all levels of society for 1+ generations, since the early 90's: healthcare, journalists, universities, government agencies, you name them, they deteriorated conspicuously. Most barflies here note this fact, have been lamenting this since I started reading this blog.

Now, when USA doesn't do diplomacy, consequences appear shortly. Obama started Syrian war and got bloodied noses; Trump started trade war with China and got bloodied noses; now Biden started Ukraine war and getting bloody noses. This trend will continue insidiously (assuming no nuke war) until multipolarity in true form permeates our globe.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 19:30 utc | 138

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:25 utc | 136

Well it's there, I just looked at it! It was posted by Pete Rosseti

https://t.me/c/1262772134/10284

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:30 utc | 139

A very good, long and copiously illustrated article on Bernie and Foreign Policy.
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/04/12/bernie-sanders-claims-the-mantle-of-franklin-delano-roosevelt-has-he-earned-it/

Posted by: bevin | Apr 12 2022 16:20 utc | 75

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Good onya! I've been watching Bernie for many years now, and he doesn't know a goddam thing about foreign affairs, but always assumes the worse about any foreign leader or foreign country who is under verbal attack, and makes sure to repeat those attacks without a single momentary attempt to verify anything.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Apr 12 2022 19:32 utc | 140

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:30 utc | 138

Aha in the chat. Cheers. Cranking up the verification contraption...

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:32 utc | 141

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:30 utc | 138

Boo, if you click on the link above and then click on the Open Link button, it'll take yo straight to the post

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:32 utc | 142

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:32 utc | 141

Nope, that's a Tatar nationalist. Got caught few days ago by FSB.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:34 utc | 143

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:34 utc | 142

Crimean Tatar, not Russian Tatar to be precise. He was caught in Crimea, got sent by SBU to cause trouble according to official Russian sources.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:35 utc | 144

@Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:13 utc | 131

Doesn't work. You have to be member of that private group.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 19:16 utc | 132

It's not on a private group

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:36 utc | 145

US is just a Mafia gang sat on top of a ponzi scheme, I would never describe what their diplomats get up to as diplomacy, nowhere near it. They are Luca Brazzi, the guy you send out to collect tribute or break legs. US is a lost cause.

Posted by: Boris | Apr 12 2022 19:36 utc | 146

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:34 utc | 142

Source please

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:37 utc | 147

US is just a Mafia gang sat on top of a ponzi scheme, I would never describe what their diplomats get up to as diplomacy, nowhere near it. They are Luca Brazzi, the guy you send out to collect tribute or break legs. US is a lost cause.

Posted by: Boris | Apr 12 2022 19:38 utc | 148

US is just a Mafia gang sat on top of a ponzi scheme, I would never describe what their diplomats get up to as diplomacy, nowhere near it. They are Luca Brazzi, the guy you send out to collect tribute or break legs. US is a lost cause.

Posted by: Boris | Apr 12 2022 19:40 utc | 149

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:35 utc | 143

https://t.me/intelslava/24552

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:41 utc | 150

"These worrisome symptoms are compatible with use of notorious deadly Russian-made toxic Novichok, due to the fact that all victims survived with no harm, which is the hallmark of those well known clumsy Russian operatives: Russian nationals Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov - already charged in London for such an attack!"

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 12 2022 16:31 utc | 79
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Are you certain that it was not, in fact, the notorious Boris and Natasha?

Posted by: AntiSpin | Apr 12 2022 19:41 utc | 151

The Nazi's are coming to the UK to train.

"James Heappey, the UK armed forces minister, confirmed on Tuesday that the country’s military will train Ukrainian soldiers on British soil. An unspecified number of troops are expected to arrive within the “next few days” to learn how to operate armored vehicles that Britain has pledged to supply to Ukraine amid the ongoing conflict with Russia.

“There’s 120 armored vehicles that are in the process of being made ready,"

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 12 2022 19:42 utc | 152

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 12 2022 16:31 utc | 79
"These worrisome symptoms are compatible with use of notorious deadly Russian-made toxic Novichok, due to the fact that all victims survived with no harm, which is the hallmark of those well known clumsy Russian operatives: Russian nationals Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov - already charged in London for such an attack!"

Are you certain that it was not, in fact, the notorious Boris and Natasha?

Posted by: AntiSpin | Apr 12 2022 19:44 utc | 153

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:37 utc | 146

Oops forgot to link to you as well, the Intel Slava Z post from which the claim for cloutier was made is there

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:44 utc | 154

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:37 utc | 146

Oops forgot to link to you as well, the Intel Slava Z post from which the claim for cloutier was made is there

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:45 utc | 155

@Barofsky, #105, 107, 108, 109, et al:

Thanks for this series. I don't know yet how much of what you provided I would end up believing, but surely these are news that I've never read elsewhere before and am richly educated by them.

Again, thanks for posting these :-)

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 19:46 utc | 156

@Barofsky, #105, 107, 108, 109, et al:

Thanks for this series. I don't know yet how much of what you provided I would end up believing, but surely these are news that I've never read elsewhere before and am richly educated by them.

Again, thanks for posting these :-)

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 19:47 utc | 157

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Apr 12 2022 16:31 utc | 79
"These worrisome symptoms are compatible with use of notorious deadly Russian-made toxic Novichok, due to the fact that all victims survived with no harm, which is the hallmark of those well known clumsy Russian operatives: Russian nationals Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov - already charged in London for such an attack!"

Are you certain that it was not, in fact, the notorious Boris and Natasha?

Posted by: AntiSpin | Apr 12 2022 19:48 utc | 158

Photo of opposition leader Viktor Medvedchuk in handcuffs

From Gonzalo Lira
https://t.me/realCRP/4305
Viktor Medvedchuk—opposition leader in Ukraine, personal friend of Putin—was put under house arrest some months ago by the Zelensky regime on trumped up charges.

He was said to have escaped shortly after the start of the conflict, on February 28 to be exact. Many said that he had been spirited away to Russia, and that he was waiting there for the end of the conflict.

Today the Zelensky regime claims to have “recaptured” him.

Bullshit. The word I’m hearing is, Mr. Medvedchuk never escaped—Zelensky regime thugs snatched him from his home and put him in an SBU dungeon as a hostage.

The fact that he is being shown now in public proves the Zelensky regime wants to leverage him—maybe swap him for whoever the Russians captured at Mariupol? A certain American general that we know of?

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 19:49 utc | 159

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:45 utc | 154

Boo, okay, the original poster is called Hannibal and he claims that Twitter would let him post it so where did that image come from? Although he may have tried to post it. I just read his response and it's now deleted, so I was right, Hannibal is a bullshitter!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 19:53 utc | 160

Georgian mercenaries boast about killing Russian troops in Ukraine, and that they never take prisoners which is against Geneva Convention rules these Georgian mercenaries are often guests in the USA meeting top government officials whilst there.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-lawmakers-welcomed-notorious-georgian-warlord-now-boasting-of-war-crimes-in-ukraine/280182/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 12 2022 19:55 utc | 161

https://t.me/rybar/31082

Big news, about 1000 VSU soldiers are giving up.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:57 utc | 162

Posted by: Down South | Apr 12 2022 18:36 utc | 121 & 124

Thanks, Down South, for this link to the very interesting Russian NEO-blog:
https://journal-neo.org

Posted by: njet | Apr 12 2022 20:00 utc | 163

The US frequently lies about adhering to a "rules based international order."
Secretary Blinken:
... "Our administration is committed to leading with diplomacy to advance the interests of the United States and to strengthen the rules-based international order. That system is not an abstraction. It helps countries resolve differences peacefully, coordinate multilateral efforts effectively, and participate in global commerce with the assurance that everyone is following the same rules."
But. . .
The US has seized Afghanistan's assets, frozen $300bn of Russia's gold & forex reserves, and sanctioned various people including the Russian president's two daughters, as well as many other people and corporations in the world.
Where's "the rules-based international order" in those activities?
Let's step it up a bit. The US, as NATO's daddy-in-chief, refused to allow Russia to sustain its security via past agreements and claims. Just refused, causing a war! That's not any kind of rules-based international order, is it. And it's certainly not diplomacy.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 12 2022 20:05 utc | 164

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 19:57 utc | 161

More info on the capture: two battalions of 36th marine corps brigade according to Simon Pegov (wargonzo) and Sladkov (Rossya ch. 1). 300 injured of which 90 not mobile + 800 not injured. This is big, almost 30 to 40% of the remaining ukro forces in Mariupol are giving up.

Posted by: Boo | Apr 12 2022 20:08 utc | 165

What is the story about the uaf soldiers getting blasted by that tank?

Posted by: Steve | Apr 12 2022 20:09 utc | 166

Quotes with out links,
Links that do not exist.

Could we please stop this "General Cloutier trapped" rumors before there is evidence?

Posted by: njet | Apr 12 2022 20:12 utc | 167

Boo, here's the invite link for MintPress

https://t.me/joinchat/XCUzFlYBREEwMjh

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 20:12 utc | 168

Boo, here's the invite link for MintPress

https://t.me/joinchat/XCUzFlYBREEwMjh

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 20:14 utc | 169

@Pacifica Advocate; #11:

The right-wing elites--our Oligarchs--who manage the staffing of our halls of power of course require full subservience to these myths before they'll even consider hiring or promoting someone into their bureaucratic service, so now--today--the US government is nothing more than a collection of narcissistic children who fully believe that what the US desires is what is best and most right for the rest of the world.

The qualities of civil servants in the USA, both at Fed and State levels, bear out you observation. Yes indeed! To change America towards normalcy at this stage will take a monumental resolve and effort. !!!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 20:17 utc | 170

@Pacifica Advocate; #11:

The right-wing elites--our Oligarchs--who manage the staffing of our halls of power of course require full subservience to these myths before they'll even consider hiring or promoting someone into their bureaucratic service, so now--today--the US government is nothing more than a collection of narcissistic children who fully believe that what the US desires is what is best and most right for the rest of the world.

The qualities of civil servants in the USA, both at Fed and State levels, bear out you observation. Yes indeed! To change America towards normalcy at this stage will take a monumental resolve and effort. !!!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 20:17 utc | 171

@Pacifica Advocate; #11:

The right-wing elites--our Oligarchs--who manage the staffing of our halls of power of course require full subservience to these myths before they'll even consider hiring or promoting someone into their bureaucratic service, so now--today--the US government is nothing more than a collection of narcissistic children who fully believe that what the US desires is what is best and most right for the rest of the world.

The qualities of civil servants in the USA, both at Fed and State levels, bear out you observation. Yes indeed! To change America towards normalcy at this stage will take a monumental resolve and effort. !!!

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 20:17 utc | 172

Sorry about double posting. It wasn't my intent. Just glitches in trying to post.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2022 20:19 utc | 173

LGEN Courier is Army, not Marine Corps.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 12 2022 20:20 utc | 174

LGEN Courier is Army, not Marine Corps.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 12 2022 20:20 utc | 175

LGEN Courier is Army, not Marine Corps.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 12 2022 20:21 utc | 176

@Steve | Apr 12 2022 20:09 utc | 166

What is the story about the uaf soldiers getting blasted by that tank?

A new video has appeared, taken from the point of view of the victims

From Gonzalo Lira
https://t.me/realCRP/4303
Regarding yesterday‘s video, here is a video from the point of view of the victims, right before the tank fired on them.

People are arguing about the tank. It looks to me like a Russian tank, because of the white markings, which are not typical on Ukrainian T 72s.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 20:22 utc | 177

Up to 10 groups of 3-4 were scattered and tried to break through the encirclement. The operation to find and eliminate them is ongoing.

So no panic.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:46 utc | 105


"#MARIUPOL Breakout Attempt
6—Up to 10 groups of 3-4 men were scattered and tried to slip through the encirclement. The mop-up operation to find them continues.
7—The reports of a 2nd smaller breakout attempt resulted from #6. These scattered groups are pursued by #Spetsnaz. 4/5

https://twitter.com/NuestraIraSLG/status/1513915124683321352


It immediately occurred to me, the 'breakout' was possibly cover for 10 groups of 3 to 4 men to give them a chance to escape. Possibly the VIP's we've heard stories about. Helo's and an escape by sea apparently didn't work so well.

Just spit balling of course like most here, but wondered if that possibility crossed your mind?

Posted by: bubbles | Apr 12 2022 20:22 utc | 178

LGEN Courier is Army, not Marine Corps.

Posted by: Lysias | Apr 12 2022 20:23 utc | 179

Up to 10 groups of 3-4 were scattered and tried to break through the encirclement. The operation to find and eliminate them is ongoing.

So no panic.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 17:46 utc | 105


"#MARIUPOL Breakout Attempt
6—Up to 10 groups of 3-4 men were scattered and tried to slip through the encirclement. The mop-up operation to find them continues.
7—The reports of a 2nd smaller breakout attempt resulted from #6. These scattered groups are pursued by #Spetsnaz. 4/5

https://twitter.com/NuestraIraSLG/status/1513915124683321352


It immediately occurred to me, the 'breakout' was possibly cover for 10 groups of 3 to 4 men to give them a chance to escape. Possibly the VIP's we've heard stories about. Helo's and an escape by sea apparently didn't work so well.

Just spit balling of course like most here, but wondered if that possibility crossed your mind?

Posted by: bubbles | Apr 12 2022 20:25 utc | 180

Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death...


Posted by: juliania | Apr 12 2022 17:16 utc | 92

Thank you for bringing the good news.

Maybe The Sacred Harp tradition, where east and western European song-traditions merge into something special.
I found out about it through Alan Lomax Archives - and am glad to see it is still alive. It's my dream to introduce it to my community.

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 12 2022 20:30 utc | 181

[Forwarded from Russian_Monitor]
[ Video ]
🇺🇦 Defense of Azovstal - the last citadel of Ukrainian forces in #Mariupol - seems to be collapsing.

Miserable videos of soldiers with little ammo and no food. Last night a failed attempt of some 1500 marines and Nazis to break out of the blockade. And now surrender of over 1000 marine corps is reported.

Looks like it's only Nazis and alleged foreigners are left dug in this huge industrial area.

@Russian_Monitor

https://t.me/c/1262772134/10348

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 20:31 utc | 182

US foreign policy is based on carpet bombing an "uncooperative" country into the stone age.

Posted by: Hannibal | Apr 12 2022 20:31 utc | 183

I keep messing up my posts Sorry

To Juliania

I was going to ask if Babylon has fallen with this link https://youtu.be/QABA9Bxxj_8

Then I tried to tell you about The Sacred Harp tradition, made in the US and a beautiful example of what happens when different cultures meet.
It's western type songs, sung in an eastern kind of fashion.
Alan Lomax Archives introduced me to it.
https://youtu.be/w3mb3Ya9OUc
We are the same kind of people.

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 12 2022 20:38 utc | 184

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 20:22 utc | 177

Well a different interpretation is that the tank was Ukrainian and it fired at its own side!

https://t.me/NewResistance/7187

Check the comments. It was Uke terriatory, so the likelihood is that the tank fired at its own side!!!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 20:42 utc | 185

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2022 20:22 utc | 177

Well a different interpretation is that the tank was Ukrainian and it fired at its own side!

https://t.me/NewResistance/7187

Check the comments. It was Uke territory, so the likelihood is that the tank fired at its own side!!!

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 20:42 utc | 186

How come that the more truth is discussed here the more trolls appear? :D

Posted by: Macpott | Apr 12 2022 20:57 utc | 187

"There are 2 kinds of countries in the world; countries sanctioned by the USA and countries that buy weapons from the USA."

Posted by: Jimmy | Apr 12 2022 20:58 utc | 188

Apologies for the double post but this site is suddenly acting very strangely in firefox. Seems fine in my back up browser though. Freezing up, spinning wheels, posts appearing then not appearing. Weird messages about post pending..etc..

It's come to this in the bastions of free speech?

Surely it can't be about me, it's not like I have any hot insider info to share with anyone. I have however followed the Ukraine putsch from the beginning and the cctv camera video of the Ukrainian jet firing on the administration building in Luhansk, and the dead and dying lying on the sidewalk outside, will forever be etched in my mind.

Western media ignored that, like so many other inconvenient things.

Posted by: bubbles | Apr 12 2022 21:01 utc | 189

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 12 2022 20:30 utc | 181

Sorry, your link didnt go for me - glad to hear you have visited Alan Lomax archives too - but I don't remember the Sacred Harp tradition.

I was probably OT with my post, sorry. I had just wanted to share that after reading yesterday less favorable news as to the monastery folk and going to duckduckgo to see what I could find, the lovely image of the church came up. This side of the war news it probably sounded a bit polyannish, but we seemed to be getting into war fog, especially on the second page with all the double postings, so the site is feeling the tension.

How the US does diplomacy certainly is a discouraging subject, has been for so long now. And waiting on Mariupol has to be very hard on everyone. Younger folk in the west won't have known any other kind of diplomacy, so there is a long way to go just to get back to where we were once...when I was young and hopeful ;)

It's always darkest 'fore the dawn.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 12 2022 21:04 utc | 190

Macpott | Apr 12 2022 20:57 utc | 187

It's been my experience that is a feature of most "contrarian" discussion forums. Take it as a good sign, as in, the louder they howl in public the surer it is they are in real pain.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Apr 12 2022 21:05 utc | 191

[Forwarded from I'll tell you everything! (Diana)

https://t.me/dianajavsevamrasskazu/70774

[Mevedchuk is the Ukrainian MP accused of treason by the Zelensky regime. B]

Writing. A big friend of the British secret services, Arsen Avakov, has offered to swap Viktor Medvedchuk for the British officers holed up in Mariupol.

There seems to be a version of who delivered Medvedchuk to Zelensky.

He was brought in twenty-four hours after Boris Johnson's departure.

Who apparently informed Zelensky directly, without any intermediaries, of the details of the operation.

Zelensky's office is too puffed up cheeks talking about the "complex multi-layered" SBU operation. Ears stick out the size of donkeys' ears.

Who is sitting there in Mariupol so important?

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 21:06 utc | 192

Posted by: bubbles | Apr 12 2022 21:01 utc | 189

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Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 21:09 utc | 193

Posted by: bubbles | Apr 12 2022 21:01 utc | 189

Server overloaded.

Posted by: Barofsky | Apr 12 2022 21:09 utc | 194

Posted by: Jimmy | Apr 12 2022 20:58 utc | 188

Or, "There are two kinds of countries in the world, those sanctioned or regime-changed by the US and those who buy our weapons and let us extract their resources for pennies on the petrodollar."

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 12 2022 21:10 utc | 195

from RT

The US Defense Department cannot confirm the use of chemical weapons in Mariupol, a spokesman admitted on Tuesday. The claims were initially made on encrypted messaging app Telegram by the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, part of the Ukrainian National Guard.
“We are aware of social media reports which claim Russian forces deployed a potential chemical munition in Mariupol, Ukraine,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said, adding that “we cannot confirm [the reports] at this time and will continue to monitor the situation closely. These reports, if true, are deeply concerning and reflective of concerns that we have had about Russia's potential to use a variety of riot-control agents, including tear gas mixed with chemical agents, in Ukraine,” he continued.

I covered riot-control agents in my #72 above, of course they're perfectly legal despite Kirby's "concerns."

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 12 2022 21:11 utc | 196

@191 it seems so I found out about this forum on reddit... well the good times I guess :) - but yes I feel that pain and it is almost like in a movie - No pain no gain as they say haha

Posted by: Macpott | Apr 12 2022 21:11 utc | 197

Posted by: Anne B | Apr 12 2022 20:38 utc | 184

Thanks - that explains it!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 12 2022 21:12 utc | 198

@187 it seems so I found out about this forum on reddit... well the good times I guess :) - but yes I feel that pain and it is almost like in a movie - No pain no gain as they say haha

Posted by: Macpott | Apr 12 2022 21:13 utc | 199

I really want to know what is in that supposed bioweapons lab below Azovstal called PIT 404 that George Webb, Fierce News and others are talking about. Lt. General Roger Clothier Jr. supposedly captured by DPR. The Azov and NATO officers hiding down there. People have said Russia wants to capture this intact.

Various sites have said what occurred down there in the bioweapons lab with Mariupol locals as captives/prisoners is unspeakable. I hope Russia and DPR are able to show the world the evil that has occurred there. People will then realize that Russia and Putin stood up and stopped evil. We know that evi is going on in those weapons labs connected to Hunter Biden. The sickening garbage on his lap top shows how evil these people are.

Posted by: Jerry1 | Apr 12 2022 21:14 utc | 200

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