Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 23, 2022
EU Commission, U.S. Submit To Reality

Me stating the very obvious on Feb 28:

All energy consumption in the U.S. and EU will now come at a premium price. This will push the EU and the U.S. into a recession. As Russia will increase the prices for exports of goods in which it has market power – gas, oil, wheat, potassium, titanium, aluminum, palladium, neon etc – the rise in inflation all around the world will become significant.

On February 4 Russia and China declared a multipolar world in which they are two partnering poles that will counter the American one. Russia's move into the Ukraine is a demonstration of that.

It also shows that the U.S. is unwilling to give up its supremacist urges without a large fight. But while the U.S. over the last 20 years has spent its money to mess up the Middle East, Russia and China have used the time to prepare for the larger conflict. They have spent more brain time on the issue than the U.S. has.

The Europeans should have acknowledged that instead of helping the U.S. to keep up its self-image of a unipolar power.

It will take some time for the new economic realities to settle in. They will likely change the current view of Europe's real strategic interests.

I admit that it has been amusing me to watch the process predicted above through the ever evolving headlines:

Europe Rejects Putin’s Demand for Natural Gas Payments in Rubles – Mar 24, 2022, Bloomberg

(Bloomberg) — European Union leaders rejected Vladimir Putin’s demand to pay for natural gas in rubles …

EU payment in roubles for Russian gas would violate sanctions regime – document – Apr 14, 2022, Reuters

BRUSSELS, April 14 (Reuters) – Payment for Russian gas in roubles by European Union buyers would break the EU's sanctions regime against Moscow, an internal European Commission note said.

EU Sees Way to Pay for Russian Gas Without Breaching Sanctions – Apr 22, 2022, Reuters

BRUSSELS (Reuters) – EU companies may be able to work around Russia's demand to receive gas payments in roubles without breaching sanctions if they pay in euros or dollars which are then converted into the Russian currency, the European Commission said on Friday.

Even the U.S. had to submit to reality:

Yellen warns European ban on Russian energy could harm economies – Apr 21, 2022, rfi / AFP

Washington (AFP) – A European ban on Russian oil and gas imports could have unintended economic consequences, US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Thursday.

Major European countries including Germany have faced calls to stop buying energy from Russia and starve its economy of revenue in retaliation for its invasion of Ukraine, which has sent more than five million people fleeing.

Speaking to reporters following a meeting with Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal and Finance Minister Sergiy Marchenko in Washington, Yellen said such a ban could ultimately cause more harm than good.

A European energy ban would raise global oil prices "and, counterintuitively, it could actually have very little negative impact on Russia, because although Russia might export less, its price it gets for its exports would go up."

Referring to a proposed ban, Yellen said, "if we could figure out a way to do that without harming the entire globe through higher energy prices, that would be ideal."

Folks like Yellen, and the disgraceful President of the EU Commission Ursula von der Lying, are paid way more than I will ever receive for my work through reader donations here (a big thanks for those btw!). Still they and their very ignorant but highly paid consultants took weeks to understand the most basic realities of life.


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Note: You are not entitled to receive freebies just because you claim to be 'woke', are deeply Russophobic, or can distinguish the taste of  twenty different wines served at various receptions in Brussels.

Get used to it.

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Like the sanctions from hell these woke women will be taking their countries into a self imposed nightmare that may well end in a bright flash.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 23 2022 7:05 utc | 13

In the case of most women “leaders” those are the hot flashes of menopause, which kicks in at the about same time as they have climbed or slept to the top of the pyramid. They can change from empathy to ball busting in less than 10 seconds. Not conducive to rational decision making in either case.

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 23 2022 18:23 utc | 101

@Posted by: ld | Apr 23 2022 14:40 utc | 72
Strategic Culture Foundation is Back
Yay

How did you do it? It is still down for me.

Posted by: librul | Apr 23 2022 18:31 utc | 102

Bhadrakumar’s latest – “US Narrative Won’t Survive Defeat in Donbass”- reflects the economic turmoil in Europe:
“Chancellor Olaf Scholz told Spiegel on Friday that a gas embargo is ultimately about ‘avoiding a dramatic economic crisis, the loss of millions of jobs and of factories that would never open again.’ He said that given such ‘huge consequences for our country, for the whole of Europe,.. it’s my responsibility to say: ‘We can’t allow that (embargo)’.”
Was this not gamed out ahead of time? Is it actually possible the western leadership were so convinced the “sanctions from hell” would collapse the Russian economy, social fabric, and military that they felt no need to consider contingencies?
https://www.indianpunchline.com/us-narrative-wont-survive-defeat-in-donbass/

Posted by: jayc | Apr 23 2022 18:34 utc | 103

Posted by: Scorpion | Apr 23 2022 15:43 utc | 80
I humbly suggest you go over to New Eastern Outlook and read the contributions made by F William Engdahl and you will find your suspicions are more founded than you think.
I suggest you read all his articles going back awhile to gain an essential understanding at what is taking place.

Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2022 18:36 utc | 104

OK. This is something I’ve been thinking but a bit shy to ask openly. I wonder if there are women among the Nazis and mercenaries in the Azovstal bunker/s?

Posted by: Steve | Apr 23 2022 18:50 utc | 105

Two hours ago Stategic Culture was accessible. Now it is 403-verboten.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 23 2022 19:26 utc | 106

TomQ@98
“Woke is a pejorative courtesy of the right in American politics “
The term came out of the BLM movement where the cultural marxists also invented the disparaging smears of “ white privilege, white supremacy and systemic racism” The CM and Zionist media also became very adept at creating false realities like the Ferguson Missouri “ hands up don’t shoot!” Where the perp had in fact grabbed the policeman’s gun and was trying to shoot the officer. The zionists at CNN and others ( see Elon Musk comment) created the lie that the officer shot the perp in cold blood while his hands were in the air. Obama goon Holder had to eventually admit that the officer was defending himself but the marxists lie had taken hold in the media and culture anyway. At the Super Bowl one of the teams came out with their hands up in protest. The hallmark events of the cultural Marxism movement are based on pure lies spread by the Zionist media.

Posted by: Obamavirus | Apr 23 2022 19:48 utc | 107

“Woke is a pejorative courtesy of the right in American politics “
The term came out of the BLM movement where the cultural marxists also invented the disparaging smears of “ white privilege, white supremacy and systemic racism”
Posted by: Obamavirus | Apr 23 2022 19:48 utc | 105

“Woke” goes back a lot further than that:

Lead Belly uses “stay woke” in explicit association with Black Americans’ need to be aware of racially motivated threats and the potential dangers of white America. Lead Belly’s usage has largely stayed the common, consistent one ever since, including during one notable brush with the mainstream in 1962, via the New York Times.
That year, a young Black novelist named William Melvin Kelley wrote a first-person piece for the Times called “If You’re Woke You Dig It”.
https://www.vox.com/culture/21437879/stay-woke-wokeness-history-origin-evolution-controversy

Original usage… Lead Belly – Scottsboro Boys… “stay woke” at about 4:30

Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 23 2022 20:24 utc | 108

A bad omen …
Tass: Turkey closes air space for Russian military, civilian jets heading to Syria
US says F-16 sale to Turkey serves NATO interests in letter to Congress | Hürriyet Daily News |
https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-says-f-16-sale-to-turkey-serves-nato-interests-in-letter-to-congress-172821
A Congressional letter was sent on Feb. 4th that urged the Biden administration not to supply Turkey with the F-16 jets and modernization kits due to its deployment of S-400s and human rights violations.

Posted by: Oui | Apr 23 2022 20:29 utc | 109

Obamavirus@105
neo fascist nonsense, including the obligatory apologies for police murder. You think Zionists are Marxists, of any kind? Or are these terms simply ways of dancing around the fact that your politics are those of an anti-semite racist?
You might as well come right out and say what you mean: Cops should shoot black guys whenever they choose, because terrorism has proved the only way to keep blacks down and poor whites afraid.
And so on ad nauseam. Your opinions are like farts from a billionaire’s corpse.

Posted by: bevin | Apr 23 2022 20:49 utc | 110

Thanks @39 Norwegian & @43 Riccardo!

Posted by: et Al | Apr 23 2022 21:03 utc | 111

Bevin@108
“Neofascist nonsense and apologies for police murder”
The Obama Justice Dept ruled in their investigation that the shooting was self defense by the police officer. Look it up. The fact of the matter is that media lies are contributing to a hysteria in the black community about police. They often completely ignore instructions that are given to them for their own safety. Look also at Kenosha. The Rittenhouse trial exonerated Kyle from a false murder charge. He was practically executed in the media without trial. So what is the common thread here? Media lies. Who owns the media and writes the stories? 6 major corporations own the American media. These companies are run by Jews. The term Zionist media is widely used because of the perpetual bias shown to any story that involves Israel. I’m not racist, the media is controlled by a small non diverse group with a political agenda. They are using their public position to deceive Americans. Millions of lives are at stake.

Posted by: Obamavirus | Apr 23 2022 21:05 utc | 112

Thank you b. Perhaps Europe needs to reach into its imagination.
https://www.ecosophia.net/the-future-at-five-a-m/

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 23 2022 21:12 utc | 113

Posted by: bevin | Apr 23 2022 20:49 utc | 108
Well said Bevin. It scares me when I read too much of the blatant racist stuff on this blog. What is it doing on this thread anyway. The non Ukraine thread should be the place for US political racist stuff.
Of course in all probability just another psyops troll deliberately sent to contaminate this blog and make all our opinions seem worthless in the eyes of the world- or in some cases eg Germany lead to arrests for anti-semitism.

Posted by: watcher | Apr 23 2022 21:16 utc | 114

Israel dumping dollar and buying more RMB?
Whats this supposed to mean? You telling me Jews know more about money than other people or something?

Posted by: HandsomeMan | Apr 23 2022 21:17 utc | 115

Briefing from Russian MoD Telegram channel…

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.
This afternoon, high-precision long-range air-based missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces disabled logistics terminal at a military airfield near Odessa, where a large batch of foreign weapons received from the US and European countries was being stored.
During the day, 22 military assets of Ukraine were hit by high-precision air-based missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
Among them: 2 battalion command and control posts and 1 brigade command and control post, 11 strong points, as well as areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration. Up to 200 servicemen and nationalists, as well as more than 30 armoured vehicles and cars, were destroyed.
3 weapon, military equipment and ammunition depots have been destroyed in Illichevka and Kramatorsk.
1 Buk M1 anti-aircraft missile system and 3 radar stations were destroyed near Novaya Dmitrovka.
During the day, operational-tactical and army aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 79 military assets of Ukraine. Among them: 6 command posts, 52 areas of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 16 depots of missile and artillery weapons, ammunition and fuel.
4 anti-aircraft missile systems were destroyed: 3 Buk-M1s near Kurakhovka and Romanovka and 1 Tor anti-aircraft missile system near Sergeevka.
Russian air defence means destroyed 3 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near the settlements of Izyum and Kherson, including 1 Bayraktar TB-2 over Lozovaya, Kharkov Region.
Missile troops and artillery carried out 102 firing missions during the night. Destroyed: 6 command posts, 84 strong points and areas of manpower and military equipment concentration, as well as 10 artillery batteries.
In total, 141 aircraft and 110 helicopters, 541 unmanned aerial vehicles, 264 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2,479 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 278 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,081 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,321 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.
#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 23 2022 21:27 utc | 116

From Russian MoD Telegram channel… Apparently Ukraine is going to attack churches…

According to reliable information, on the eve of the Easter holiday, the Kiev regime is preparing provocations to discredit the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate. Thus, the bishops of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church received recommendations from the office of President V. Zelensky: “on the night of April 23-24, not to hold traditional Easter celebrations, replacing them with an online broadcast of divine services in churches.”
▫️At the same time, these notifications were deliberately not sent to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (hereinafter referred to as the UOC–MP) in order to organize a mass gathering of believers in the churches of the UOC-MP. The provocative actions are carried out against the background of the campaign carried out by the Kiev regime in the Ukrainian media to accuse Russia of allegedly organizing “rocket attacks on religious sites,” including the Svyatogorsk Lavra.
▫️A situation is being deliberately created in which any incident specially provoked by the SSU in the churches of the UOC-MP crowded today will be used to the maximum to aggravate Kiev’s divisive policy and activate a new wave of Russophobia in Ukraine and abroad.
Full text of the Statement of the Joint Coordination Headquarters for Humanitarian Response (https://t.me/mod_russia_en/1079)
#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #HumanitarianResponse
@mod_russia_en

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 23 2022 21:32 utc | 117

May be a bit OT, but here is an article about Nazis in the Ukraine from years ago from The Real News. It’s completely relevant, given current events.
https://therealnews.com/the-us-is-arming-and-assisting-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-while-congress-debates-prohibition

Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 23 2022 21:34 utc | 118

For as long as euros or USD enter into overall transaction, the risk for Russia remains, unless received western paper is promptly converted into gold or yuan. Since Russia doesn’t run twin ( trade/ budget ) deficits, there is an acute shortage of rubles to ensure smooth functioning of MMB ( Moscow International Exchange) euros to rubles scheme. The only way to exchange tens of billions of euros/USD into rubles would be to either print additional massive quantities of rubles which would spur Russian hyperinflation, or extend ruble loans to western buyers. The latter should only be made with the provision of gold collateral, because such loans will never be paid off ( the ruble shortage will make repayment impossible). If left to just natural MMB process, the ruble may well skyrocket to 10 per USD or even higher, with devastating impact on Russian budget ( too few rubles to pay for expenditures) and manufacturing (cheap imports will kill it).
The only sound long-term strategy is for Russia to gradually – as import substitution gains pace – drive trade surplus to zero, i.e. reduce oil and gas output. With all but closed capital account and no outlet for capital outflow, trade surplus will bid Russian domestic prices into stratosphere, and cripple its industry.
There is an indication that Moscow is already reducing its hydrocarbons production. The West will present such as sign of sanctions working, but truth is, Russia must do this in any case.

Posted by: Venom | Apr 23 2022 21:44 utc | 119

Scorpion | Apr 23 2022 15:43 utc | 80

the seeming determination of some in the United States to bring the country to the point of collapse. Dunno who, dunno why but it seems incontrovertible that’s it’s happening.

It is happening in the UK and Europe not just in the USA. The whole Covid Kabuki provided a cover for the controlled demolition of the economies. Is the favoured catchphrase – Build Back Better – not pointing to the Davos/WEF crowd?

Posted by: cirsium | Apr 23 2022 21:56 utc | 120

From Colonel Cassad Telegram channel… Odessa was hit by six Russian cruise missiles aimed at fuel facilities, etc. Apparently fragments from the one intercepted missile landed on a high-rise apartment building which is burning. Similar to the BUK incident at Kiev early in the war.

Beware, fake
The Russian military fired (https://t.me/warfakes/2484) at least six cruise missiles at Odessa. The goal was living houses. This was stated by the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko.
In fact, the target of the attack were military facilities outside the city. According to the telegrams of the MASH channel, the strikes were carried out on the Shkolny airfield. Anton Gerashchenko noted that the townspeople heard explosions in different areas, while “one rocket was shot down.”
If you look at the map of the military facilities that are located near the Tiras residential complex, near which the strike took place, you can see that the nearest military airfield is only 6.5 kilometers away. Such objects are usually covered by air defense systems.
Apparently, the anti-aircraft gunners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired on one of the missiles, but either missed or hit, but the fragments fell next to a residential building, damaging the gas pipeline (hence the thick black vertical smoke).

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 23 2022 21:58 utc | 121

From Colonel Cassad Telegram channel… Apparently US encrypted radios have been captured in Ukraine.

Good toy. By the way, Harris’ Falcon 3 radios are already able to connect to satellite relay and control networks. So it would be very interesting to see the firmware of this unit https://t.me/anna_news/29417?single
Telegram (https://t.me/anna_news/29417?single)
ANNA-NEWS|News|Syria|Donbass|Nagorno-Karabakh
The American encrypted radio from the Falcon III family, supplied to Ukraine, became a trophy.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 23 2022 22:05 utc | 122

How to End the War in Ukraine with Scott Ritter
by usefulidiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6nM0ug8Jck
Extended edition available on their Substack with free trial (although you have to sign up with credit card, so YMMV)
Extended episode: How to End the War in Ukraine with Scott Ritter
Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper
https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/extended-episode-how-to-end-the-war?s=r

Former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and Chief UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter resigned his post in protest of US war mongering.
Immediately, he was mocked by Joe Biden.. And when the FBI came after him, well, you can hear the language he uses for yourself.
So when he joined the Useful Idiots to discuss Joe Biden, he (like many of our recent guests), didn’t have much nice to say.
“The marine in me says he stinks. He went to war knowing it was a lie and his chief of staff told me he knew it was a lie. And yet he held a hearing that lied to the American people about a threat that put marines, soldiers, sailors, and airmen’s lives at risk. People died. And not just our people, Iraqis. They didn’t deserve this, but they got it.
“And the person that gave it to them? Joe Biden. He’s the President of the United States today, and I have zero use for the man. That’s about as honest as I can get.”
He details Biden’s terrible approach to the war in Ukraine and the simple steps he’d need to end the whole thing and reach peace. But of course, Biden’s gonna Biden.
And hear the extended episode where Ritter shares some explosive takes and seething views of the government whose war crimes have led to countless deaths.
Oh, and if you want to win our hearts, take advice from Scott Ritter with quotes like:
“You guys probably get far more viewers than CNN does, so you’re far more influential.” He’s right, especially after CNN+ officially shut down this week (thanks to viewers like you).
Plus, Biden’s Trumpian approach to Assange, an MSNBC pundit joins the war, and Katie and Wilson debate whether Ted Cruz meant that Mickey would be “going at it” with Pluto or with Goofy.
It’s all this, and more, on this week’s episode of Useful Idiots. Check it out.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Apr 23 2022 23:00 utc | 123

A most interesting development.
Here we are in round two of’Cold War 2.0’…….
The Russians, have neatly evaded all western economic sanctions.
This has literally pushed all western economies into super stagflation , ouch , ouch!
The aged baby boomers are retiring. The key component of all western economic spending power is rapidly declining. Even the ethically driven world’s largest fund in Norway. Took a big hit. So, did all the baby boomers future retirement cash investment funds too.
Plus the bad news! All major western currencies have been reduced to the value of free air. The Western major corporate banks are on the verge of imploding, yet again!
These , very unpopular Western leaders , are unable to handle reality of the new real world. Lack even the basic knowledge to control stagflation….
Oh well, duck and cover! I suspect all ‘Neo_Cons(Nazi’s)’ , will now go ballistic!

Posted by: Bad Deal Motors On | Apr 23 2022 23:31 utc | 124

Israel dumping dollar and buying more RMB? […]
Posted by: HandsomeMan | Apr 23 2022 21:17 utc | 113
As a man with alleged sagacity said: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. No one else.”
For myself, I should be dumping dollars and buy eggs but to late. In the recent weeks, the prices of eggs doubled in USA. Perhaps EU should pay with eggs for LNG?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 23 2022 23:35 utc | 125

@James j. Might I remind you that American corporations made trillions off of China,in Zion globalization,and parked most of it offshore. They beat us by their intelligence, hard work and discipline, but any excuse for the war mongering country.
They beat you at your own system, and turn their wealth to help their own people, but that is a No No for Zion inc. We are going under,just like the Aussies unless you believe that Moses is coming. You might as well “Blame it on Rio”. The good news is we will last a little longer than Europe,or you could try the nuclear option. At least death will be faster.

Posted by: Karl luck | Apr 23 2022 23:52 utc | 126

Posted by: Venom | Apr 23 2022 21:44 utc | 117
There are many solutions.
Tadjikistan and Kyrgyzstan may have a lot of rubbles because of worker remittances. EU companies can buy rubbles there, and in exchange export machinery, parts etc. that in turn could be “re-exported” to Russia — these landlocked countries use ports in Russia for the foreign trade, so re-export can be simplicity itself.
Another is to offer credits to friendly countries like India. In years and oil prices are high, Russia has payment surplus, and thus it can offer credit, i.e.accept payments in rupees deposited in Indian banks. And when prices are low, Russia can withdraw rupees and convert to pay for imports. Other friendly importers can do the same, with mutual benefit.
This would reduce the need to decrease and increase the production of exported commodities.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 23 2022 23:52 utc | 127

By Tsvetana Paraskova – Apr 21, 2022, 7:00 PM CDT, Oil Price
As the global energy transition continues to accelerate, the demand for key battery metals is soaring and demand is struggling to keep up.
The inconvenient truth of the energy transition is that the industry at the top of the clean energy supply chain is a very carbon-intensive one.
President Biden, recognizing this reality, has added strategic and critical metals to the Defence Production Act of 1950.
The metals mining industry is at a crossroads. Key energy transition metals need trillions of U.S. dollars in investment if the world has any chance of advancing the transition to meet the Paris Agreement targets. At the same time, investors are backing out of carbon-intensive sectors, which metals mining undoubtedly is. Moreover, governments in developed nations with net-zero goals—including the U.S. Administration—want only “sustainable” new domestic mining to extract the minerals critical to support increased transportation electrification and renewable power generation aligned with their net-zero by 2050 targets. Currently, demand for key battery metals, including lithium, graphite, cobalt, nickel, copper, manganese, and aluminum, is soaring, but supply is struggling to catch up.
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Steel prices are also double in USA compared to pre-COVID 2019. Any type of energy transition is more expensive and slower than it would be few years ago — if attempted.
It is not fully appreciated how and why EU economies got dependent on natural gas. For some uses, natural gas is hard to replace, but as energy is concerned, there is a little difference between burning fuel oil and natural gas. However, for years the latter was at least twice cheaper. Oil has to be refined to make fuel oil, while NG has to be “cleaned”, it is done close to the well head and cheaper to do. Similarly, the cost of making electricity from NG is smaller than from oil. Thus EU has a problem now when jul by jul, crude oil became cheaper than NG, I think by 1/3.
Give or take a trillion dollars, EU could switch to crude oil, but by the time it would be done, prices could revert to those before NG crisis that started in 2020. Not to mention that all the necessary refining capacity, new boilers etc. add up to a lot of steel. Unpredictable economic environment necessitates either spare capacities, you use this or that, or you stockpile, say, nitrogen fertilizers and aluminum when energy is low, and withdraw from stockpiles when energy is high. Or you just switch off and on the industries and use quantitative easing in rough periods.
The last one seems to be a preferred solution, but at some point, Euro and USD will turn into Monopoly money, as opposed to solid currencies like Indian and Pakistani rupees, Russian ruble, Argentinian peso etc.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 24 2022 0:18 utc | 128

I highly suggest reading Orlov’s item at The Saker’s as he gets a bunch of things correct regarding how the longstanding state of relations between Russia and Ukraine affect what’s now happening. The central and most important point that I’m mad at myself for not hammering on hard enough is that Ukraine IS Russia, which is perhaps the MAIN reason why Russia waited so long to do what is now. Recall the two long essays Putin wrote and spoke about the fraternal relations that exist–that Russians and Ukrainians are actually one people, not two–the latter being a 100% artificial construct. And that’s why the West smiles at the thought of using Ukrainians to fight Russians as the West hates both since in reality they’re one people–Russians. Do read it; here’s the link.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2022 0:18 utc | 129

RT interviewed Maria Zakharova about Russia/China and the process of forming the Multipolar World, the transcript of which is in Russian at the MFA’s website. As I’ve done before, I’ll copy/paste the entire interview and post it to the latest open thread so it can be read and discussed there. It’s an excellent primer and ought to be copied and saved for reference by barflies.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2022 0:23 utc | 130

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 23 2022 6:05 utc | 9
Sadly, whichever cheek gets spanked it’s the same ass that sits upon the throne.
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Wickedly well put.

Posted by: Doug Hillman | Apr 24 2022 1:53 utc | 131

Pay walls are making it harder to access info every day. The net is, sadly, becoming a place where it takes $ to research ANYTHING..

Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 24 2022 3:09 utc | 132

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 23 2022 14:01 utc | 68
They don’t just apply a filter. Someone at the BBC has to actually manipulate the photo to produce those results. Brian Berletic at The New Atlas shows just how dishonest they are:
https://youtu.be/eS8EceIa1MQ?t=365

Posted by: One Too Many | Apr 24 2022 3:23 utc | 133

Need anyone be reminded, the us made china a super power, and bankrupted itself in the same move.
Posted by: James j | Apr 23 2022 12:44 utc | 57
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Can we put that old canard to rest? It’s on par with another exceptionalism whitewash filled with imperial hubris like calling Russia a gas station. I’m dumbfounded this is being peddled at MOA.

Posted by: Jun | Apr 24 2022 4:22 utc | 134

Piotr Berman | Apr 24 2022 0:18 utc | 126
Metals mining vs carbon… difficult to comprehend the idiocy of the green cult at times.
No thought put into what it takes to transition if that is even possible.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 24 2022 4:26 utc | 135

>>There is an accumulation of military power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Nikolaev and Zaporozhye directions in order to try to make counteroffensives on the positions of the Russian Federation.
The problem is that the delivery of weapons is very difficult, so far it only happens by rail, mixing freight trains with passenger trains in order to insure against air strikes on the train.
Posted by: Down South | Apr 23 2022 8:06 utc | 20<< An offensive by Ukraine is needed on the propaganda front. The war crimes propaganda is played out. While no one has heard, Ukraine has pushed several in the past 10 days. But the MSM machine is no longer pushing it en masse. A few in the know already know Ukraine has (right or wrong) been using civilian areas as their natural barriers. Rivers and mountain ranges just won't work for regiment and above. And I'm not surprised at all Ukraine would use mixed passenger trains. It may be their only way to get material en masse to the direct "front". Though I don't know why RF wouldn't hit the rails? Force the material to come by truck. Trucks will require round the clock trips while trains can move huge amounts. Regardless, without a new "war crime" that the MSM repeats, the Ukraine is winning/Russia is collapsing narrative is dying with every video of Mariupol and others. It says to the average Western consumer that "I thought Ukraine was winning?". A counter offensive, any offensive that gains a field or two and can be shown on TV will reenforce that original narrative.

Posted by: Corsair66 | Apr 24 2022 5:35 utc | 136

Posted by: jayc | Apr 23 2022 18:34 utc | 101

Was this not gamed out ahead of time? Is it actually possible the western leadership were so convinced the “sanctions from hell” would collapse the Russian economy, social fabric, and military that they felt no need to consider contingencies?

Why should they consider contingencies when they’ve succeeded in crushing (almost) every nation they’ve cast their baleful eyes upon for centuries?
Up until now they’ve simply applied the same methods of state subversion they’ve perfected over at least two centuries. It’s worked every time.
It’s become rinse wash repeat.
They must’ve thought it was business as usual this time, they must’ve thought it would be the fall of the USSR redux, because of course, to them, Russia is simply “a Gas station with an army”.
They need a new strategos, pity Brzenski is dead, Kissinger is senile and Mearsheimer is not a murdering psychopath.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 24 2022 5:57 utc | 137

In response to

Need anyone be reminded, the us made china a super power, and bankrupted itself in the same move.
Posted by: James j | Apr 23 2022 12:44 utc | 57
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Can we put that old canard to rest? It’s on par with another exceptionalism whitewash filled with imperial hubris like calling Russia a gas station. I’m dumbfounded this is being peddled at MOA.
Posted by: Jun | Apr 24 2022 4:22 utc | 132

Sorry Jun, but James j is correct.
The US is the current face of the global private finance cult who have bankrupt the US by aggressive global Shock Doctrine military efforts as manufacturing was outsourced since 1971 when the Reserve Currency became fiat/worthless/debt of US dollars.
The current US debt is over $7 trillion Jun. When the balance of the world creates a Reserve Currency based on any amount of intrinsic value, how long do you think the US dollar will stay alive?
And behind that US dollar use to be Might-Makes-Right hegemony which is now in desperation mode to stay in control….and losing.
So, are we going to extinction or do we get to listen to poor losers whine as they become irrelevant or prosecuted for crimes against humanity?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 24 2022 6:37 utc | 138

“The central and most important point that I’m mad at myself for not hammering on hard enough is that Ukraine IS Russia,
which is perhaps the MAIN reason why Russia waited so long to do what is now.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2022 0:18 utc | 127

Yes. Some very good points set out by Orlov. Recommended reading. Thanks Karl.
Also, Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2022 0:23 utc | 128
Thanks too for posting the Zakarova interview over on the last open thread. In answering the first question Maria refers to a joint document from 1997,
Joint Declaration on a Multipolar World and the Formation of a New International Order“. It seems that multipolarity is a concept that is old enough to vote, drink and, as we are now witnessing, be conscripted into the military.
1997 doc.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 24 2022 6:59 utc | 139

Ukraine IS Russia
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 24 2022 0:18 utc | 127

Of course. Always has been.
Discarding the result of the referendum of the 17-03-1991.
Isn’t it funny, the RSS of Ukraine is a creation of the PC of the Soviet Union, and the anticommunist west is supporting such decision.

Posted by: Olivier | Apr 24 2022 7:01 utc | 140

The good news with exploding oil and energy prices?
The UAE will now have enough money to build two new Dubais in the desert.

Posted by: Sundance | Apr 24 2022 7:51 utc | 141

Yes, but you know that Europe’s submission to reality at present is temporary and contingent only on its present necessity, and that the U.S., ruler of the Empire, will do everything in its power to wean Europe off Russian gas by all means available today and yet to be devised and invented, that will greatly benefit the U.S. economy to Russia’s future detriment. Treachery has shadowed Russia’s pursuit of Europe for centuries.
I have more than once accused Western media and U.S. intelligence of trying to crack the code to Putin’s thinking and failing miserably. Yet here I am attempting to break that code myself hopefully with better luck, or not.
Putin has always suffered from a weakness for the West and blind spot when it came to Europe, hence the outcome at hand. He was and maybe still is, albeit to a lesser extent, of the Petrine (Peter the Great) civilizational mindset vying for the approval of European intelligent society and in return being repeatedly condescended to and spurned. In that same vein, Europe is like an ex-lover Putin can’t shake that keeps trying to exploit his Achilles heel and generosity. In fact, Europe is Delilah, plotting behind the scenes with the ruler of the Empire to destroy Putin and weaken Russia.
Putin’s refreshing Munich speech constituted an unfeasible challenge aimed at a cynical audience. While it thrust him onto the international political spotlight as a bold, visionary leader trying to shatter a duplicitous geopolitical standard, but willing to explore an unprecedented diplomatic relationship between the West and Russia, it logically morphed into a watershed moment, where once the best Russia had to offer was dismissed for the last time, contemporary Russian resistance finally made its official debut. It was not a fêted, but a fated event for Putin and Russia.
Russia should not have to deign to any culture or geopolitical defensive structure. Russia is graced with her own rich and unique culture, conceived on a historical tapestry of compelling events unfolding throughout centuries over an expansive terrain where East meets West and cultures mingled and today are one. This geographical reality represents a potentially significant, yet still undervalued prospect for geopolitical and economic advantage. Perhaps, present events are destined for that realization.
Russia is protected by an advanced, formidable military arsenal with nuclear deterrence. She doesn’t need to surrender her sovereignty for protection from any external defensive contrivance, just to end up a vassal of the Empire like Ukraine. Today, Russia has a powerful ally in China, to everyone’s chagrin, and can boast other allies whose reputation for resistance against the Empire’s hegemonic ambitions precedes them. In addition, Putin’s audacity in launching the SMO has curiously gained the tacit respect of other countries like India, Pakistan, KSA and others.
Is Russia a country still torn between its affinity to Western culture and the natural pull of the East? Yes. Moderation is the key that Russia failed to practice, and just as China exercises discipline in regulating Western influence, Russia is learning the hard way the wisdom of such restraint.
Russia needs to get over the close to 800 year-old Golden Horde trauma and view China as a power-sharing global partner and collaborator that respects Russia’s sovereignty and uniqueness. Let go of the past, Russia, I mean Putin. China is not on an imperial Genghis Khan mission. It’s goals are economic, not expansionary, territorially or ideologically. This relationship will prove to be mutually beneficial. I already wrote recently that when the Sun starts to set for Russia in the West, it will rise tomorrow in the East. Russia’s Eastward economic focus will favor its recovery from the punishing flight of Western investment, filling the vacuum in regards to employment and technology, creating a healthier more balanced future from West to East where Russia will no longer be as dependent on Europe and the U.S. dollar, and therefore will be protected from the financial tyranny and cancel culture the West resorts to in exercising control.
Just as Europe will turn to U.S. ingenuity to service its needs, so too Russia must wean itself away from its dependency on Europe and the Petro-dollar, and as Putin stated, Russia will diversify its exports to fast-growing markets South and East, but he’s been suggesting this for way too long. Actions speak louder than words.
Dostoïevski wrote in 1881:
When we turn to Asia, with our new view of her, something of the same sort may happen to us as happened to Europe when America was discovered.
With the passage of missed opportunities, I believe that Russia will benefit from a more symbolic discovery and rebirth, rather than from the grandiose denouement the great Russian author implies. I suspect that Putin is still holding back, but starting to move in the right direction.
Western media like to presume that Putin is channeling Stalin, or that he wants to revive the Romanov Dynasty and crown himself, Czar of Russia. They even repeatedly flash Putin’s super-imposed profile next to a picture of Nicholas II.
I’ll admit, my goal is not really to break the code to Putin’s thinking. I want to answer the question: In which unfinished context of Russia’s history does Putin belong? I came to this preliminary conclusion:
The earlier Putin may have leaned more towards the idealism of Peter the Great, and Nicolas II, but this later Putin has evolved to embracing and emulating the positive aspects of Stalin’s Soviet Union. Now with his bold move on Ukraine, he also seems to be projecting the noble intentions that drove Nicholas I into the Crimean War, but hopefully having strengthened and eliminated the weaknesses that led to Russia’s defeat in that war. Suffice it to say that from day one I stated: I believe, he will succeed.
So add to that mix of Stalinist-type innovation and industrial progress and Nicholas I’s case against Western duplicity; a Slavophile, and Eurasionist perspective and what do you get?
Why do I refer to an unfinished context? IMHO, and I’m presuming, Putin’s place in history is to finish what was started and then frustrated or aborted by events, missed opportunity and failure.
I believe what Dostoïevski wrote is true. My view is that Russia’s destiny lies in the direction of the rising Sun and not where it sets.
At this point I should mention, that I borrowed the historical references and literary quotes I’m adding here from an article written by author and historian, Orlando Figes, but rather than quote him here, I wanted to express my opinion my way, since I previously held a similar perception, with the caveat that he doesn’t believe in what Putin is doing, and I do, and therein lies a world of difference even in my expression, although his is more erudite. I can’t pretend to be a historian.
Figes brings up excerpts from Alexander Blok’s The Scythians, and I won’t get into the weeds of his reasoning, as I want to wind this down to make my point. Here are some of those verses:

You, the old world, now rushing to perdition,
Yet strolling languidly to lethal brinks,
Yours is the ancient Oedipean mission
To seek to solve the riddles of a sphinx.
The sphinx is Russia, sad and yet elated,
Stained with dark blood, with grief prostrate,
For you with longing she has looked and waited,
Replete with ardent love and ardent hate.

I wonder if Churchill was inspired by Blok’s verses when he conjured his definition for Russia?:
Russia a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.
The Scythians’ prophesy is manifesting now unless Europeans turn away from NATO:

Yet how will ever you perceive
That, as we love, as lovingly we yearn,
Our love is neither comfort nor relief
But like a fire will destroy and burn.

Finally, I’ll conclude with this warning: The Sun is really setting on you… condenada (doomed) Europa, and know that the Empire you are a part of, is not one upon which the Sun never sets, but whose demise is as certain.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 24 2022 8:34 utc | 142

@bevin 108:

neo fascist nonsense, including the obligatory apologies for police murder. You think Zionists are Marxists, of any kind? Or are these terms simply ways of dancing around the fact that your politics are those of an anti-semite racist? You might as well come right out and say what you mean: Cops should shoot black guys whenever they choose, because terrorism has proved the only way to keep blacks down and poor whites afraid.
And so on ad nauseam. Your opinions are like farts from a billionaire’s corpse.

Here’s how to avoid getting shot by a cop: Don’t fight (physically) with him. Don’t struggle for his gun. It’s pretty simple and, I say, reasonable. The kid who got killed in Ferguson, from what I understand, he wasn’t following either of those (again, I’d say reasonable) rules. So, if it’s in response to the kid fighting the cop and getting shot as a result, the “hands up, don’t shoot” protest meme(?) is complete BS, it seems to me. Having his hands up is the absolute furthest thing from what he was doing. It’s also the furthest thing from what I’ve seen in all these other reports of black men getting shot by cops. Your going ad hominem on the original poster in this sub-discussion completely fails to address his argument.

Posted by: jonboinAR | Apr 24 2022 12:46 utc | 143

Posted by: fanto | Apr 23 2022 16:55 utc | 93
This is a very interesting observation. Correctly translated, it should read:
“Whoever has Berlin – has Germany, whoever has Germany – has Europe, whoever has Europe – has the entire world.”
It might sound “Eurocentric”, but it is certainly not racist. Germany just happens to be a European keystone and not, for instance, the failed empire of Britain, formerly “Great”.
It does, however indirectly, address America’s never-ending dread of a technically advanced Western Europe joining forces with the almost limitless natural resources Russia could and can still provide. Those two entities really would “have the whole world”, if they ever found the courage to recognize that the Russian Federation today is just a natural extension of Europe, as yet basically untapped.
Already recognized long ago, this is the reason the U.S. has done everything in its power, over the last entire century, to ensure this never happens.
Under such a union, not only would the U.S. experience a massive loss of international influence, but China would also have to bow before the reality of a true economic, military, and technical powerhouse which would, of course, represent a far lesser threat than a failing and terminally thrashing U.S. empire.
Accordingly, soon-to-be-made German foreign policy decisions will have a massive impact on the course of both European as well a global history, once again.
Lacking all historical perspective and understanding, it will be interesting to see how the U.S. reacts.

Posted by: GreyRaven | Apr 24 2022 19:15 utc | 144

Should the US engage itself with Russia, even if it should prevail, it will not survive in a condition to take on China.

@ Arch Bungle, let Here let me share with you a Chinese idiom: “鹬(snipe)蚌(mussel)相争(fighting),渔翁(fisherman)得利(benefit)”. It means, A third party harvests the benefits from the bilateral combat. It comes from an ancient book《Warring States Anecdotes》which written during 475 to 221 BC. At that time, ancient China was divided into 6 states, Zhao, Yan, Qing, etc.
Once, Zhao state planned to attack Yan state. Yan sent an experienced envoy to influence the Zhao. The envoy told the Zhao king, “As I was crossing a river on my way here today, I saw a mussel that had opened its shell to warm itself in the sun. Suddenly a snipe came pecking at the mussel. The mussel clung to the bird’s beak and held it tight.
“If it doesn’t rain today or tomorrow,” the snipe said, “there will be a dead clam.”
“If you can’t break away today or tomorrow,” the snipe replied, “then there’s a dead snipe here, too.”
But because neither the snipe nor the clam would give way, a fisherman caught them both.
The Yan envoy said to the Zhao king, “You will attack the Yan state, Yan will fight back. The long war will exhaust you both, and the mighty Qin state will become a fisherman. Think carefully whether it is worth this war.”
Thereupon, the king canceled the attack plan.

Posted by: Ted | Apr 24 2022 19:33 utc | 145

Posted by: Ted | Apr 24 2022 19:33 utc | 145
Thanks for that. It is a very likely possible future for the US should it engage the wrong enemy. In either of those futures, the US does not win.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 25 2022 3:24 utc | 146

Posted by: bevin | Apr 23 2022 20:49 utc | 110
Thank you!
Posted by: Opport Knocks | Apr 23 2022 18:23 utc | 101
I find the tendency towards misogyny by a number of posters here disappointing – do you really think that women decision makers in political or financial realms are doing a worse job than the men? Do you think a male leader of Sweden or Finland would not be seeking NATO membership?
Men have held most the reins of power in the world for several centuries (millenia) and lately it is obvious what a mess they have often made of it. Women have held some positions of power in the past 50 (or less) years, and they are also often making a mess of it.
Neither stupidity nor wisdom, malice nor compassion, competence nor incompetence are gendered.

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 25 2022 18:54 utc | 147

Posted by: Karl luck | Apr 23 2022 23:52 utc | 126
I just blame it on the boogie…

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Apr 27 2022 12:56 utc | 148