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March 30, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-38

Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …

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@ Roger | Mar 30 2022 22:55 utc | 160
sorry roger… you’re right.. i signed up to 2 substack newsletters in the past 1-2 weeks and one of them was yours, but i see i shared the other one from rolo, not you – roger boyd..

Posted by: james | Mar 31 2022 0:49 utc | 201

@161 Wolle
“The character/sign itself w/o context is ambivalent.”
No it isn’t, it’s the quintessential nazi symbol. Only people who say otherwise are fascist apologists and those who want to rewrite & sanitize history.
Please knock it off
Posted by: ptb | Mar 30 2022 23:27 utc | 177
Fascists steal and degrade everything, no it does not originate or belong to nazis. I’m not saying the symbol can be rehabilitated, just that it existed long before. Same as the peace symbol was a Nordic Rune etc etc
From Collector’s Guide:
“One of the oldest symbols made by humans, the swastika dates back some 6,000 years to rock and cave paintings. Scholars generally agree it originated in India. With the emergence of the Sanskrit language came the term ‘swastika’, a combination of ‘su’, or good, and ‘asti’, to be; in other words, well-being.”
From Wikipedia:
“The swastika was a widely used Native American symbol. It was used by many southwestern tribes, most notably the Navajo. Among different tribes the swastika carried various meanings. To the Hopi it represented the wandering Hopi clans; to the Navajo it represented a whirling log ( tsil no’oli’ ), a sacred image representing a legend that was used in healing rituals.
“The history of the swastika goes back to the origins of the Eurasian Continent. The swastika is an important symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism, among others, and was also used in Native American and Jewish faiths prior to World War II. By the early twentieth century it was regarded worldwide as symbol of good luck and auspiciousness.”

Posted by: K | Mar 31 2022 0:52 utc | 202

It is unbelievable that Russia has already reversed itself regarding gas only for rubles. Western leaders must be laughing their asses off at Putin. Negotiate with Putin every day and every day he will further weaken Russia’s position. I pity the Russian people for having such a weak and pitiful leader. How can he ever face the family of a Russian soldier killed in Ukraine? Putin must resign. Russia and the world would be better served if Xi and China came to rule and own Russia.

Posted by: Eric | Mar 31 2022 0:57 utc | 203

Posted by: K | Mar 31 2022 0:52 utc | 205
The Nazis got the swastika from the ariosophists – Madame Helena Blavatsky, et al. – who also gave the Nazis the entire “root races” and Ayranist narratives. Blavatsky moved to India and found the swastika being used their as a Buddhist symbol. She grabbed it for her movement. If you go to the Wikipedia entry for Theosophy, you will see the swastika at the top of their symbol.

Posted by: john brewster | Mar 31 2022 1:01 utc | 204

Posted by: Paul | Mar 30 2022 20:46 utc | 119, what I remembered was this:
Waihopai Station – Wikipedia
The Waihopai Station is a secure communication facility, located near Blenheim, run by New Zealand’s Government Communications Security Bureau.The station started operating in 1989, and collects data that is then shared with New Zealand’s allies. In 2021, it was announced that the parts of the station would be deconstructed and removed from the site.

Posted by: juliania | Mar 31 2022 1:03 utc | 205

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Mar 30 2022 21:23 utc | 132

@seer 124 there is this article just out : https://jeff-kaye.medium.com/the-destroyed-ukraine-bioagents-dangerous-or-benign-5bd59358b28e
personally while I think there is room for a scandal there in its own right I don’t see much relevance to the current conflict, except maybe as the inspiration for the false flag chemical attack claims(?). There is a corruption angle to them, a general angle of secret biolabs worldwide, with its dangers and illegality, an angle for general bioweapon research against Russia, but very unlikely an angle of active creation of weapons.

Many thanks for that. I was kind of hoping to see a listing of all labs and the state of control of each. Sounds like Jeffrey Kaye will be the one to watch for any such updates.
All a bit interesting given Russia’s claims. (and then there’s the general concerns over ALL biolabs)

Posted by: Seer | Mar 31 2022 1:06 utc | 206

@K(205): Thanks!
I’m a German and I will never use a swastika in a fascistic context.
But in Germany some crazy politicians and public authorities try to forbid the character Z because of the Russian dena卐ification of Ukropisthan.
But sometimes I’m a little bit too sarcastic!

Posted by: Wolle | Mar 31 2022 1:07 utc | 207

I love me the smell of desperate trolls doing drive by’s
Given we are seeing the birth of a new “Reserve Currency”, it might be a bit premature to characterize any of the steps to the new system of finance as failures.
I am reading reports saying that Ukraine was intentionally used to challenge the US dollar Reserve Currency status and I see that perspective a bit simplistic as any of a number of things could have triggered similar sanctions…we are dealing with a very desperate empire that is seeing the curtain shielding its existence from the masses being torn away…..pity that.
I still see Russian goal of 1997 rollback not being discussed and while that is not for Ukraine to speak to, Ukraine is a proxy in all regards anyway. While their may be a pause in military activity, I expect it to resume if Russia sees its total demands not being respected in some way.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 31 2022 1:08 utc | 208

And the epicentre of modern Naziism is in Canada, where sporting Nazi regalia has become as obligatory, in the political class, as Poppies once were.
Posted by: bevin | Mar 29 2022 18:38 utc | 14
bevin, you posted this as part of a larger comment yesterday, and I didn’t have the chance to address it then. As a Canadian, I find it quite a surprise to hear that My Home and Native Land, being the almost Soviet-style paradise I know it to be, would be regarded as a hotbed of Naziism. And Nazi regalia obligatory among the political class? Granted there’s little our clown-car of a government could do that would surprise me, given the example PM Buckwheat manages to set, but this still raised the eyebrows. Normally, it would be myself (being a member of that fringe minority with unacceptable views) who would be called a fascist.
Other than the witch Freeland’s family history, to what specifically are you referring? I’m not at all offended by your comment – just seriously curious.
Cheers.

Posted by: DougK | Mar 31 2022 1:12 utc | 209

karlof1 | Mar 30 2022 21:13 utc | 128, just letting you know that I do thank you for the UN info — haven’t had a chance yet to follow the link you gave on the first page of this thread. I consider that information as important as the uncovering of the Ukrainian biolabs control — things are moving very fast, and I would say realignments are happening behind the scenes that we do not know about as yet. I’ll finish my slow progress through the posts on this thread in the hope that such behind the scenes occurrences are the ‘soft landing’ we all have dreamed of and hoped for.
Thanks to b and thanks to all contributors!

Posted by: juliania | Mar 31 2022 1:20 utc | 210

Eric @207 clearly didn’t read this thread and is blowing smoke out his ass.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 31 2022 1:21 utc | 211

i’m probably the 500th person to post this, but it’s amusing in any case:
https://www.rt.com/russia/553007-south-ossetia-unite-plan/
they picked an odd time to do it but godspeed, i suppose.

Posted by: the pair | Mar 31 2022 1:26 utc | 212

Oh the irony…
Slovenia’s (problematic) PM sent an diplomatic envoy into Kiev couple of days ago (we have a serving ambassador in Rzeszow), to serve as a human shield (official explanation as to why there is a need for such an envoy). He proudly lifted Slovenian flag in front of his office (https://twitter.com/MZZRS/status/1508169061804703744)…
Today he had to remove it, since the flag of Slovenia is very similar to Russia’s… [laughing emoji]
https://www.sta.si/3020333/pred-slovenskim-veleposlanistvom-v-kijevu-sneli-slovensko-zastavo-zaradi-podobnosti-z-rusko

Posted by: Lurker | Mar 31 2022 1:29 utc | 213

juliania @214–
Thanks for your reply, and you’re most welcome. Happy reading! Oh, and my next note is for you too.
psychohistorian @212–
I very much suggest reading Hudson’s interview with Flowers as Biden’s target wasn’t just Europe but home as he explains and I agree. My bit of advice is to buy any currency not pegged to the dollar to protect your savings, for it will gain in value while the dollar continues to depreciate. And I’d want the hard stuff, not a paper receipt.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 31 2022 1:31 utc | 214

Maybe some of the European countries like Germany and France are “genuinely” planning to break from the US by first make complete obedience to the US to reach the point where economic and social crisis occurs, then Europe will say “Look what happens when we follow you, so goodbye” , I.e, let the breakaway comes from the people not from the strangled politicians.
Just some wishful thinking this morning.

Posted by: Man | Mar 31 2022 1:47 utc | 215

“Ukraine has already brought the war onto Russian land. On 25 February they hit Millerovo Airfield near Rostov. On 29 March they hit an ammunition depot near Belgorod. The gloves are off.” A comment at Turcopolier
Is this true?

Posted by: Mark Gaughan | Mar 31 2022 1:48 utc | 216

The US is so desperate that they are now publicly claiming that the Russian military is lying to Putin about the progress of the war. This is just sad, what is the point of spouting nonsense like that for? Who is the market for this propaganda? The Russians know the truth and aren’t paying any attention to this drivel. The American people have already been conditioned to think that Russians are evil and have repeatedly been proven to not care about the internal politics of other countries.
All I can think of is that the Americans know that the Ukrainian offer is going to be rejected and Russia’s counter-offer will be much harsher on Ukraine (which would not fit the US narrative that Russia is losing the war). Thus, the US government is prepping the public for the Russian counter-offer by claiming that Putin is unaware of how Russia is “losing the war” according to the American narrative and making an offer that Ukraine will rightfully refuse (i.e. the Americans and the Nazis will veto it). It’s incredibly stupid and short-sighted, but at the end of the day you have to pay the piper and if they keep it up Ukraine will end up being smaller than Rhode Island

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 31 2022 1:49 utc | 217

@K 205 etc
Go to Mariupol, explain it to the men cleaning up the azovite criminals there.
Unless you’re at a museum of native american or buddhist symbols, which this place is not, that history is completely blown away by 20th century events. Further discussion of this is just polluting the airspace.

Posted by: ptb | Mar 31 2022 1:56 utc | 218

IMO, Putin wants to give the US a taste of what it did to Russia in the 90’s. That’s the real goal.
Posted by: Lex | Mar 30 2022 23:45 utc | 184
Lex, you started out this comment by saying that Russia is interested in the Long Game. Much of it very interesting. I would however disagree in part with the above. The US wasn’t interested in the Long Game when it did what it did in the 90’s. However when you say ‘a taste’, I do think you have something there.
Of course, we are far and away speculating and hoping. Time will tell.

Posted by: juliania | Mar 31 2022 2:05 utc | 219

This one weird trick can rally millions to risk getting nuked!
Here how it works. The MSM’s trusted sources all seem to follow the same ‘ISW’ analysis on Ukraine. The analysis is all grim for the Russians. They can be beat is the subtle ISW analysis. (Receipts included)
Example:
BBC – The BBC coverage is the go to for many, including other MSM.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
The BBC credits ISW as its source for maps and analysis.
The ISW (Institute for the Study of War) provides MSM trusted analysis of the war.
https://www.understandingwar.org/
ISW is owned by Kimberly Kagan.
Who is Kimberly Kagan?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Kagan
She is married to Frederick Kagan.
Who is Frederick Kagan?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Kagan
Frederick Kagan is the brother of Robert Kagan.
Who is Robert Kagan?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
By sheer coincidence, Robert Kagan is married to none other than Victoria Nuland.
Who is Victoria Nuland?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
Never heard of her?
https://www.salon.com/2021/01/19/who-is-victoria-nuland-a-really-bad-idea-as-a-key-player-in-bidens-foreign-policy-team/
Other examples of ISW as a source include:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/27/europe/ukraine-russia-conflict-new-phase-intl-cmd/index.html
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-s-pledge-help-ukraine-goes-beyond-what-he-s-n1292135
“According to a report by Washington think tank the Institute for the Study of War, two leaders of the Russian intelligence service were placed under house arrest Friday.”
https://www.foxnews.com/world/shelter-bombed-in-ukraine-city-war-seen-entering-new-phase
…”Washington-based Institute for the Study of War said in a briefing”…
TL;DR: The MSM gets its war assessment from Victoria Nuland’s sister in law. Some say she organized the 2014 coup in Ukraine. Weird, right?

Posted by: Will | Mar 31 2022 2:07 utc | 220

Unless you’re at a museum of native american or buddhist symbols, which this place is not, that history is completely blown away by 20th century events. Further discussion of this is just polluting the airspace.
Posted by: ptb | Mar 31 2022 1:56 utc | 222
Respectfully ptb, if it was not for the long history of Countries such as China, Russia India and many others PRIOR to the 20th Century, we would not even have an alternative to Nazism. In the big scheme of things beyond our lifetimes, 20th C is a blip, as will Nazism be. You can’t overwrite thousands of years of the usage of a symbol with 80 years of misuse.
I’m not condoning anything, Its called a conversation. anyway the original poster already said he was being sarcastic. nuff said about it I’d say.

Posted by: K | Mar 31 2022 2:08 utc | 221

I linked to this site from a story in Revolver. Great to see views other than the MSM narrative. On that front, I wonder how many times someone needs to be lied to before their natural skepticism engine kicks in. I’m now convinced a huge section of the populace can be lied to without limit. They are TV inculcated to let their emotions run amok via the trigger of a carefully crafted 5 word headline repeated across each press of the TV remote control. A mere 10 or 20 minute knowledge seeking action — on any topic — is bridge too far for many, seemingly.
My latest topic-knowledge search has been “the convoy” north of Kiev(one that the MSM and the ADD of the average viewer now has forgotten). A feint/big force dog and pony show? Or halted due to bad RF strategy/Uke resistance severely underestimated?

Posted by: Corsair66 | Mar 31 2022 2:10 utc | 222

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 30 2022 23:03 utc | 165
I think you are completely wrong RSH and basically thinking like a btizkrieg yank or Third Reich nutter.
Russia will obviously want peace IF it gives then significant guarantees and delivers the objectives laid out in their December ultimatum”.
So what do we think Russia MUST have
1. Absolute guarantee Ukraine will not join NATO – seem achievable
2. obviously some fail safe means of long term ensuring 1 above – This will be a sticky issue but possible
3. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia- seems to be on the table
4. Recognition of the two independent states – seems to be on the table
5. Method for ensuring Ukraine cannot develop nukes
6. very, very, very tight security on all biological labs – Russian, Chinese ans i suspect Indian and Iranian supervision of all such research if carried out- there may be some genuine public health research
7. Guaranteed water supply to Crimea
What Russia would very, very much like to have
1. Full control over the sea of Azov.- They have it now. I would be very, very sorry to see them give this up
2. Control of Odessa – probably on the wish list but hard to know if achievable
3. Lifting of sanctions
4. removal of the $US from trade – seems to be happening
5. better relations with Germany – yes if sanity prevailed
6. Removal of NATO/US bases from Bulgaria, Romania and Poland – longer term project
There are no doubt other things but if they achieve the first set it will be a win of sorts and if they get most of the second set it is victory.
PS i am sure I will have forgotten things so feel free to add- politely if possible

Posted by: watcher | Mar 31 2022 2:13 utc | 223

News about the telephone conversation between Putin and Scholz on paying Russian gas in rubles.
Take your pick! I can’t!
VZGLYAD:
Scholz refused the gas payment scheme proposed by Russia
March 30, 2022, 20:48Text: Olga Ivanova
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz held a telephone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, during which the issues of paying for Russian gas were discussed, a spokesman for the German government said.
Putin “said that he would adopt a law according to which, from April 1, gas supplies would be paid in rubles,” “at the same time, he stressed in a conversation that nothing would change for European contract partners,” reports the German government TASS .
“Chancellor Scholz did not agree to this procedure during the conversation, but only requested written information in order to better understand the procedure … The G7 agreement remains in force: energy supplies are paid exclusively in euros or dollars. As specified in the contracts,” the message says.
Scholz also said that payments would be transferred to Gazprombank.
Recall, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that Russia refuses to accept payment for gas supplies in dollars and euros, until March 31 he is waiting for a report on changing the payment currency to rubles. The Kremlin also said that Russia would not supply gas for free if the European Union refused to pay for it in rubles.
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Ria Novosti:
Scholz asked Putin for clarification on the Russian gas payment scheme
30.03.2022
BERLIN, March 30 – RIA Novosti. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, in a telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin, asked for clarification on the procedure for paying for Russian gas in rubles. This was announced by the official representative of the German government Steffen Hebeshtreit.
According to him, the Russian president informed Scholz that from April 1, gas supplies to Europe must be paid in rubles, and stressed that nothing would change for European importers.
Settlements will be made exclusively in euros and, as usual, transferred to Gazprombank , which is not affected by the sanctions. The bank will convert the money into rubles.
“Chancellor Scholz did not give consent in this conversation, but only asked for written information in order to better understand the procedure,” Hebestreit said. He added that the G7 agreement remains in force: energy supplies will be paid exclusively in euros and dollars, as stipulated in the contracts.
The Kremlin, following this telephone conversation, said that the president explained to the German chancellor the decision to switch gas payments to rubles: it was caused by the fact that, in violation of international law, Russian foreign exchange reserves were frozen by the EU countries. At the same time, the parties agreed that this issue would be further discussed by experts from the two countries.
On February 24, Russia launched a special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine , in response to which the United States and its allies announced new anti-Russian sanctions, which are aimed primarily at the banking sector and the supply of high-tech products. Approximately half of Russia’s gold and foreign exchange reserves, about $300 billion, were blocked in the West.
Under these conditions, Vladimir Putin instructed Gazprom , the Central Bank and the government to organize the transfer of settlements into rubles for gas supplies to unfriendly countries by March 31. The G7 countries say they won’t go for it. Nevertheless, according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Russia is not going to do charity work: if there is no payment in rubles, then there will be no gas for the West.

Posted by: k | Mar 31 2022 2:16 utc | 224

Response to 74 – Sundial’s “It’s a complete cop-out by Russia if that is the case. Russia is offering a way out to an openly hostile entity.”
Isn’t any purchase from Russia whether in Euros, Gold, Rubles, Bitcoin a jumbo sized cop-out by the West? The West stands on principal, Ukraine is suffering and democracy is in peril. Citizens everywhere in the West fly the blue and gold. So then we will not buy Russian goods — except if we need it for food, warmth, or to build a TV. So keep your chess matches and Tchaikovsky, but give us our toasted bread and our smartphone! For me I can’t reconcile it.

Posted by: Corsair66 | Mar 31 2022 2:27 utc | 225

Posted by: juliania | Mar 31 2022 1:03 utc | 208
“The Waihopai Station is a secure communication facility, located near Blenheim, run by New Zealand’s Government Communications Security Bureau.The station started operating in 1989, and collects data that is then shared with New Zealand’s allies. In 2021, it was announced that the parts of the station would be deconstructed and removed from the site.”
Sorry Juliania, I misunderstood you. Perhaps they moved it to Auckland? Phew, now Marlborough is [possibly] safe from attack!
Edward Snowden claimed this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10501778/US-spy-base-in-NZ
In Australia there is a lot of conjecture about the function of the fortress like building at 4A Herbert St, St Leonards, [Sydney]:
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1493491
I understand there is a similar building in Canberra. We have no privacy from governments anymore.
Here by contrast,
“China’s military expansion is modest .It was recently reported that there are now four Chinese military installations outside of China’s borders and Wikipedia was used to support the claim. Wikipedia is a great source of general information but can’t be trusted as a source of facts. Academics will not cite the website as a source…”
https://johnmenadue.com/chinas-military-expansion/

Posted by: Paul | Mar 31 2022 2:31 utc | 226

GreyRaven @ 91
The Russians, as a direct consequence, have simply chosen to be paid in a currency no one can sanction. And if that is inconvenient for those wishing to pay in U.S.$ or Euros, that’s tough s**t.
I believe that forcing the buyers of products to buy rubles and park them in accounts for purchasing and trading makes the ruble more valuable. It provides support for the Ruble, and undermines Europe and its Euro as well as the dollar in the long run.
The Central Bank has fixed the ruble to gold for 3 months at a rate of 5,000 roubles ($52) per gramme between March 28 and June 30.
Russian cenbank to restart buying gold from banks, will pay fixed price from March 28
also…
Russia sets fixed gold price as it restarts official bullion purchases
There are a bunch of complex moving parts here so it is hard to make a determination lacking the proper experts to rely on which are few and far between. I will take a shot at it from people I follow.
If he backs a domestic ruble with gold and lets an international ruble float not backed he will break the back of the West and vastly increase the average Russians purchasing power.
Other countries, seeing the result, would follow suit and hence all the dollars held all over the planet will be poured back upon the US. Hyperinflation in the US could happen in a scenario like this and resource rich countries would become wealthy.
The old colonial countries would pay a heavy price being comfortable stealing other countries resources for generations. Their currencies would be weakened so they would have to pay more for resources. Most are already heavily in debt from keeping the empire together. Interest rates would have to rise to raise capital and borrow money.
It is easy to see why they are in panic mode trying to undermine Russia at all costs. It is the type of thing that drives World Wars.

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 31 2022 2:51 utc | 227

@165
The latest round of Ukraine – Russia negotiations was all about extracting remnants of Azov regiment along with American, British and French “advisors” holed up in the ruins of the Mariupol.
Roman Abramovich – representing Yevraz steel company – was at the table. Ordinary Russians are livid about that but IMHO, there is nothing sinister about that, although Zelensky himself, in own words, wanted Abramovich there.
So, here is likely exchange. Ukraine surrenders Mariupol, Yevraz pays it attractive sum of money (couple billion dollars would be my guess) for still relatively intact giant Azovstal smelter, and Russia allows Ukrainian combatants out under international supervision.
Everybody wins. Ukraine gets large chunk money and its best soldiers out of hopeless cause, Russia obtains attractive industrial asset as well as saves many lives of its own fighters, and the West moves stressed out NATO “instructors” out of Mariupol meatgrinder.
Medinsky, as inept as he is, may have used his finest acting skills to obfuscate the real goal of Istanbul pow-wow. In Putin’s world, everything is smoke and mirrors, and nothing ever looks the way it really is.

Posted by: Venom | Mar 31 2022 2:54 utc | 228

> Unless you’re at a museum of native american or buddhist symbols, which this place is not, that history is completely blown away by 20th century events. Further discussion of this is just polluting the airspace.
> Posted by: ptb | Mar 31 2022 1:56 utc | 222
This is without a doubt among the dumbest and least-informed comments by an American Exceptionalist that I have ever seen on this site.
The swastika is very much alive and well among both indigenous Americans and Asians. Just because you’re so sheltered and ignorant that you aren’t aware of that fact does not empower you to declare for the rest of the world what is and is not acceptable.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Mar 31 2022 2:56 utc | 229

@ Tony_0pmoc | Mar 30 2022 23:01 utc | 162
I watched the Prouty video and just saw an opinionated colonel who didn’t know what he was talking about.
1) The definition of a living thing is NOT that it is made of hydrogen, oxygen and carbon.
2) Fossils, in the sense of macro-fossils may not be present below 16,000 feet but life on earth has been around for 4 billion years. For the first 2.5 billion years of that we only had single celled creatures (prokaryotes aka bacteria) Obviously they aren’t going to leave fossils as most people understand the term.
3) The idea that for the last hundred years all the geologists of the world have been involved in some great big scam to keep the price of oil up is risible. Furthermore, the idea that, even in wartime, countries are deliberately ignoring vast oil deposits right under their feet in order to perpetuate that hoax is even more risible. If you remember, it was the fuel shortage that finally nailed the third Reich, please don’t try to tell me that the ‘truth’ as you believe it to be wouldn’t have come to light there.
4) You are claiming to have qualifications in physics, yet you apparently don’t believe in the greenhouse effect, I suspect strongly that you are mostly a computer programmer that knows bugger all about the natural sciences.
Don’t get me wrong here, I know your heart is in the right place but on these issues you are very, very wrong. As with the vast majority of humanity, you only use your critical faculties when you hear something disagreeable.

Posted by: MarkU | Mar 31 2022 2:58 utc | 230

@Passerby
Good points. Ukraine’s poverty will make them sell those gadgets to terrorists and extremists for cash. High fun if they use them against North American gas shipments to Europe for maximum impact!
If Greece weighed down the EU imagine the cost of Ukraine bailout. German taxpayers will have to be far more generous than that to bring Ukraine out of total ruin. Using stolen Russian reserves for the purpose doesn’t work as most cannot be located. Western nations have also left a massive lot of assets and copyrighted material in Russia.
Soon the EU will be begging Russia to join its climate change commitments and phasing out medium range missiles including hypersonic missiles. EU will have to engage Russia directly on these as USA has lost its levers.

Posted by: Jason | Mar 31 2022 2:59 utc | 231

Thanks Lex Talionis for the reference to Costa-Gravas’ 1969 movie “Z”. I’d like to think you are on to something here, albeit something oblique and subtle. Z the Algerian/French movie, from the 1966 book of the same name, is a classic movie of resistance and intrigue set in Greece during the tyranny of the junta of the generals, and the title reiterates popular graffiti of that time: Z= he lives! The intrigue involves CIA and NATO machinations, nuclear weapons and assassinations, and various mise-en-scene allusions to American foreign policy misdemeanours. In sum, all the activities of the gladio “stay behind” fascist networks.
“Z” is one of Oliver Stone’s favourite movies.
When the closing credits roll (upwards) there is a list of everything banned in Greece after the ’67 coup. For example the Beatles and Mark Twain……and the letter Z.
Putin has used western popular cultural examples such as Rudyard Kipling’s Mogli and J.K.Rawlings in careful attempts to explain Russian consciousness to the west. Perhaps Operation Z is also offering a pretty nifty cultural and political intertextual reference?
Gladio (Latin: small sword) is writ large in the Ukrainian situation. Russia too has a dagger and it is called the kinzhal.

Posted by: Australian lady | Mar 31 2022 3:06 utc | 232

Posted by: Will | Mar 31 2022 2:07 utc | 228
Outstanding. Well done.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 3:19 utc | 233

Posted by: watcher | Mar 31 2022 2:13 utc | 231
I’m not wasting any more time on you. Your nonsense has been debunked before here. Your “asessments” of what is “achievable” are bullshit. Your comprehension of Russian objectives is non-existent. Your knowledge of who is doing the “negotiating” here is risible. You’re going to look like an idiot in a month’s time – not that you don’t now, of course.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 3:24 utc | 234

Posted by: Venom | Mar 31 2022 2:54 utc | 240
Interesting idea. I suspect the Azov Battalion doesn’t get the safe passage, however. Unless the Russian think they can nail them on the road west.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 3:29 utc | 235

From Colonel Cassad Telegram channel…

March 29.
“Ukraine promised to take the toughest measures against the criminals who tortured Russian servicemen” – Medinsky.
March 30.
“All Russia’s accusations regarding Ukraine’s allegedly inhumane treatment of prisoners of war are just an attempt to manipulate public opinion, because not a single such accusation has been confirmed,” Denisova, Commissioner for Human Rights of Ukraine.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 3:37 utc | 236

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 3:24 utc | 246
Think and do what you like. I do not agree with you. Russia would be bonkers to take on Ukraine completely – too big and parts of it are too hostile.
If they could get the Donbass, the sea of Azov and Odessa plus a neutral non military rump of Ukraine they would be doing very well indeed.

Posted by: watcher | Mar 31 2022 3:40 utc | 237

Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Mar 31 2022 2:01 utc | 224
“The swastika is shot, for better or worse. It doesn’t matter all the things it used to stand for. You can’t use it for that anymore.”
This is without a doubt among the dumbest and least-informed comments by an American Exceptionalist that I have ever seen on this site. (Pacifica Advocate – thanks)
Maybe you could have a chat to one of the Brahmin priests at your local Hindu temple & tell him that “it doesn’t matter all the things it used to stand for. You can’t use it for that anymore.”

Posted by: ted001 | Mar 31 2022 3:42 utc | 238

Posted by: watcher | Mar 31 2022 2:13 utc | 231
The “problem” as I see it is that of how one defines “peace” and how that is to be achieved and KEPT.
As long as the US can print money at will it will dominate by force other countries; it too being the “adjudicator” (“we’ll tell ya what the ‘rules’ are!”).
The atrocities that the US has committed over the course of the past couple of decades (one can actually rewind MUCH further, but let’s just keep it to more recent times) provides a clear example of the LACK of abiding by actual law, not to mention the showing of a complete disregard for the bulk of humanity. How much would anyone want to bet that “agreement” over Ukraine would be upheld by the US? Would you bet your life on it?
The empire must collapse/fall. Got nothing to do with anyone’s desire (one way or the other); it’s just fact: ALL EMPIRES COLLAPSE (due to over-extension; the last reaches require heavier hands and at that point those hands have been extended out too long and battered too many peoples and eventually drop for good).
Russia (and I’m sure China is in the backroom advising) is tossing the wrench into the US money-printing machine. Such machines can never be repaired: by their last owner.

Posted by: Seer | Mar 31 2022 3:58 utc | 239

@247
I’m fairly certain that all Ukrainian combatants would have to be let out. Just like it was done in Syria where even most unsavory characters were allowed to transit to Idlib.
Btw, Azov is not a battalion anymore. It’s a National Corps, probably somewhere at brigade strength (not all of it is in Mariupol, some is in Kharkov and probably other cities as well).

Posted by: Venom | Mar 31 2022 4:30 utc | 240

Posted by: bjd | Mar 30 2022 21:29 utc | 135
“@Wolle (131)
You have to be of ill will to popularize the swastika”
You have to have ill education if youi interprete Wole’s piece as an effort to popularize the swastika. The opposite is true: it denounces Zelensky and Azov as Nazis.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 31 2022 4:37 utc | 241

I’m sure others have mentioned it, but the latest talks between Germany and Russia to me point towards Russia playing a long game of kicking the USA out of Europe. It is in Germany’s interests to switch sides, and Russia’s best move is to appear like the good guys (mother Russia indeed) pursuing a united Eurasian project.
What has the potential to happen is the Anglo American worst nightmare, the continent united against them. The USA and Canada will be fine as they will retreat and refocus on the Americas, but the UK is another matter, and Australia, Japan, South Korea and New Zealand will have to reassess their approach to Beijing sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Lessonsplink | Mar 31 2022 4:45 utc | 242

OK I’ve largely stayed outta the Ukraine discussion because apart from my dislike of the voyeuristic side of obsessive war watching, saying what I think is rarely worth getting caught up in the arguments maybe even shouting matches which could flow from it.
I completely understand and support the case Russia has put up vis a vis ‘nato creep’ and while I’m not a supporter of any nation invading another that is not what concerns me.
I doubted that was actually Russia’s aim, sure it was for the people who know only too well the price Russian citizens have had to pay for western imperialism. This does not automatically mean that Russia’s leadership were similarly motivated.
Recent developments buttress my cynicism as the Gazprom deal with eu nations shows us that principles be damned, the elites are unwilling to sacrifice any dint on their earner. That right at the time when if leadership was genuine they should have held fast to principle since EU nations were just beginning to feel pressure from their citizens.
I never cease to be amazed by the level of naivity that has developed here at MoA.
Anyone would think that it was amnesia, no one acknowledges when russia cut a deal over Syria leaving the zionists in Golan, the amerikans occupying a huge strip of Syria including all hydrocarbon resources and ‘independent’ kurds spread across the Iraq/Syria border allowing amerika to play a military shell game, that Russia had sold out the Syrians.
When I and a coupla others pointed this out at the time, the usual Russia ‘splainers insisted that it was just temporary “until October the Russians had promised”.
There have been 3 Octobers since and little has changed – nothing will change because Russia feels she got what she needed, everyone else can get screwed.
We see the same beginning to happen with Ukraine. It seems likely a deal has been done over the top of the zelenskyy dingbat’s head; Russia or its satrap state will have control of Ukraine’s hydrocarbon resources and the EU will own control of the bulk of europe’s most fertile land.
The russian government is just as neoliberal as any other mob of corrupt vote seducers.
The types in Russia who have been making money will continue to make money, meaning that refusing to sell hydrocarbons to the EU nations was never really on the cards, as we see with the shonky now pulled with Gazprom Bank.
How is that different to what went before? The western elites have now quit shorting the rouble and while it ain’t gonna go back to happy families right away, arseholes on both sides are contentedly getting back to business.
The media will continue to slag off Russia for a while yet as there are still some carve ups yet to be done (minerals?) and anyway it’s just not a good look to signpost the exact time a deal like this was done – some stickybeak may put 2 & 2 together, with half the explanation already obvious when everyone can see the time & date of symbiotic recconnection.
Just like with the initial deal over Syria which never got any better, Russia has blinked first so now the odds of Russian speaking Ukranians improving their lot beyond where they are now are negligible.
De nazification may be seen through to completion in DNR & Luhansk regions, if it doesn’t upset any commercial or political applecarts, that is, but Russian speaking Ukranians elsewhere in Ukraine are gonna be infinitely worse off than they were pre-invasion. Same thing as happened to most Syrian Arabs living in kurd, turkish & amerikan controlled Syria.
I tell myself that it is unquestioning idealism which drives the rusplaining posters here and I hope I’m correct but I’m also at a bit of a loss to comprehend how anyone can be that naive.
I’m in two minds whether to post this or not since if anyone does notice, it will be rejected outta hand, usually with simple contradiction or some may use similar rationalisations to those used at the time of the screw syria deal, few will admit to themselves much less anyone else, that they may have been sold a pup.
such is life

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 31 2022 4:54 utc | 243

@Featherless | Mar 30 2022 23:06 utc | 168
Timonia:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IQGrqRkNpS8
This is beautiful, thank you for sharing!
When I was young I knew a man very much like Timonia. I remember his smile as a kitten we found and adopted climbed its way all the way up to his shoulder and stood triumphant.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 31 2022 5:05 utc | 244

Posted by: Seer | Mar 31 2022 3:58 utc | 251
Pretty much fully agree.
Yes the problem with any sort of peace deal is keeping the US out and sticking to the agreement. Sadly we are short of countries to monitor it. Scandinavia is now no use, nor Canada, not much of Europe. Perhaps a 5 country mob might be OK if it includes China and India, possibly Israel (yes i know pots and kettles). Turkey is way too tricky, perhaps one of the Latin American countries.

Posted by: watcher | Mar 31 2022 5:06 utc | 245

@Robert post237,
thanks for the reply. Yes, I was dubious of the “40 mile” convoy claim. General rule of thumb for what I hear on MSM, reduce it by at least 75% to be in the ballpark.
But it was still one of the more substantial armor and transport columns that have been seen in a war zone in some years. First images of it suggested it may be a feint. This was based on the appearance that little defensive effort was being made despite a weakened but still not completely neutralized Ukrainian AF. It was the proverbial fish in a barrel for strafing. So either RF command had miscalculated resistance/ease of advancement or it was a ‘hey look how big/bad we are over here’ while the RF forces actual major ops were planned for the east and/or south.

Posted by: Corsair66 | Mar 31 2022 5:21 utc | 246

@ Venom | Mar 31 2022 2:54 utc | 240
i can’t see that happening myself.. i am mostly in agreement with richard…
@ Debsisdead | Mar 31 2022 4:54 utc | 255
good to hear from you… i don’t think anything is all that simple.. the changes happening in ukraine have been building for some time, but at least since 2014 where it became more apparent… so, to change things in a reverse direction is also going to take some time and won’t happen quickly.. i am optimistic though that most ordinary ukrainians don’t give a fuck about all the bullshit being put on them by these ukee nationalists.. they might not want to join with russia either, but they could settle for not being fucked over by oligarchs who want to start ww3 between who the highest bidder is – usa, or russia, while nato revels in the gifting of gifts designed to murder a lot of innocent people… i imagine the ukrainians have just about had enough of the bullshit and would like a return to something normal without all the interference.. is this what you call unquestioning idealism?

Posted by: james | Mar 31 2022 5:29 utc | 247

@ Debsisdead | Mar 31 2022 4:54 utc | 255 who wrote

The russian government is just as neoliberal as any other mob of corrupt vote seducers.

If China were not part of bigger game I would say your points are valid but can you put China in your sentence above?…are there neoliberals running China? If you can’t find many neoliberals in China, I hope you agree that there might be something bigger than the wars for bankers we have seen for the past few centuries involved in what is going on.
I don’t think that your characterization of Russia as neoliberal is accurate but lets revisit that in 6 months after this new “Iron Curtain” situation firms up. The Iron Curtain that is going up is similar to the one that went up after the Bretton Woods agreement and the same issues are at issue…..who runs global finance? The wild card this time around the block is China that now is strong enough to say to our species that they think there is a better way….and Russia is supportive by pushing the neoliberal bullies back.
I agree that there are oligarchs in Russia and they almost have/had as much power as in the West but now are controlled by Putin and the Russian government/military in support of challenging the West with China. China is growing oligarchs but is exercising control like Russia to bend them to social needs instead of greed/social control.
I think your argument lacks the China context of our current situation and believe the outcome you project will not happen. You fault Russia for not supporting Syria and I think that claim is premature as well…..the path forward is not a straight line….
Yes, I am a dreamer but not the only one….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 31 2022 5:32 utc | 248

Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Mar 31 2022 2:01 utc | 224
Posted by: ted001 | Mar 31 2022 3:42 utc | 250
As a Buddhist living among the various Buddhist cultures of Asia, I must say I’m confident the swastika will be around for thousands of years to come.
As will the Dharmachakra, the Trishula, the eyes of Buddha and other Buddhist and Hindu symbols imbued with symbolic history and meaning.
If they can destroy and criminalise our symbols, the next they will destroy is our beliefs, thereafter our culture and thereafter all that is left is to lead us off to the gas chambers …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 31 2022 5:36 utc | 249

@255 debisdead
You are wrong, the deal in Syria is not the deal Russia wants. It is the deal Russia/Syria have to accept because they do not have escalation dominance in Syria.
Russia would love a Syria, united and sovereign with Assad ruling over the entirety of the territory. Russia would love not to have to station troops there, just to maintain the shaky status quo.
You misunderstand the situation because you lack knowledge on the military reality. As you say, the military talk isn’t your cup of tea, that is fine, but ignoring that reality leads you to gauge the situation incorrectly.
Russia/Syria have as much territory under their control as they are militarily capable of.
There is some naivity here at MoA, and that has to do with the balance of power between Russia and USA, particularly as it relates to martial matters. Russia and China have come a long way quickly, but have not surpassed American military power, not yet. This is especially true when it come to projecting power away from the borders of the respective countries. Those 800 plus military bases are there for a reason…logistics…USA can bring a lot of power to bear to a number of theatres rather quickly.
So, I am not rejecting you out of hand, and we don’t need to fight nor shout (unless you want to). I believe in regards to Syria you are under the impression Russia could kick USA/Israel/Turkey out if it wanted to, and isn’t because it is happy with the current deal, but that isn’t true.

Posted by: Haassaan | Mar 31 2022 5:44 utc | 250

such is life
Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 31 2022 4:54 utc | 255
I appreciate your comment, how could we not be sceptical in this age of end stage consumer capitalsm, corruption and degradation.
Here is my take: As far as Russia helping Syria, I don’t understand why many people seem to think that Russia is all powerful to defeat the Empire of Lies, when almost no one else in the wide world even showed up to help Syria (yes Iran and Hezbollah sorry if I forgot anyone)
However, judging by Assad’s incredible and I would say jubilant recent speech to Syrians (see Syriana Analysis) , and his successful visit to UAE I do not know how anyone could say that Syria is in the same position as before Russia intervened.
Re Gazpron, we aren’t close to the end of that set of dominoes as yet.
Russia has not had a free hand to do what it wants in the world domestically and geopolitically. Until now. China is a big part of that. And no doubt Iran. Its all in the timing. I think we need to wait and see what kind of world leaders these countries turn out to be. So far I’d take them over the current Empire.
There are oligarchs in both countries and I also am highly sceptical that their governments can wrest back control from the big money. But I hope they can.
right now I am just so happy that someone, anyone just said NO to Uncle Sam and the Samettes,
can we have our moment of joy before the real world comes crashing back down on us?

Posted by: K | Mar 31 2022 6:00 utc | 251

@244 Australian Lady – Thank you! You put all my mish mashed thoughts together. Z is my favorite movie. Zabriskie Point is #2. Unfortunately cinema has taken over so much of the means of human communication. I prefer the written word, even though I am not the best practitioner.
Cinema sanitizes war and one expects a resolution in 90 minutes. The written language, not so simple.
I just sensed the spirit of Costa-Gavras in the initial moves made by the Russian Federation. Something striking and alive.
Praise Jah for Moa, all the cool smarty folks here, and another sunrize tomorrow.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 31 2022 6:01 utc | 252

@Tony_0pmoc | Mar 30 2022 22:07 utc | 146
Thanks. We need some sanity in that department. Never mind the ideologues.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 31 2022 6:05 utc | 253

Posted by: Venom | Mar 31 2022 4:30 utc | 252
Yes, Martyanov makes that point constantly. I continue to use the term Battalion because that is what they’ve been called all along. Plus, no one knows the exact number of neo-Nazis and “brigade” and “regiment” sizes vary anyway.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 6:13 utc | 254

@Lessonsplink | Mar 31 2022 4:45 utc | 254

I’m sure others have mentioned it, but the latest talks between Germany and Russia to me point towards Russia playing a long game of kicking the USA out of Europe. It is in Germany’s interests to switch sides, and Russia’s best move is to appear like the good guys (mother Russia indeed) pursuing a united Eurasian project.

I have not seen it mentioned a lot, but my guess is that you are correct in this, and for sure I would hope it is that way. I think Russia, being very legalistic (in a positive way), would go out of its way to demonstrate that any interruption of gas supply would be caused purely by the bad decisions of ‘west’.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 31 2022 6:18 utc | 255

Posted by: Corsair66 | Mar 31 2022 5:21 utc | 258
“it was a ‘hey look how big/bad we are over here’ while the RF forces actual major ops were planned for the east and/or south.”
Russia has basically now said that’s what it was. As Scott Ritter says, it was to pin the Ukie forces in the west around the capital to prevent reinforcement and complication of the cauldron in the east. And of course it always gave Russia the option to actually take Kiev if they decided to do so, even if they didn’t want to initially.
As for the column, it was never a sitting duck. If any significant damage was done by Ukrainian planes, the whole Russian air force would have suddenly appeared and finished off everything that was left of the Ukrainian air force. And the Ukrainians knew that, which is why it didn’t happen. Better to save what you can and use it where you can rather than sacrificing it in a suicide attack on what was clearly a major Russian attack. Which is what Ukraine has been doing, and as a result steadily losing what’s left of the air force. The other day they lost a half dozen or so planes in one day. Can’t be much left capable of flying.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 6:19 utc | 256

Posted by: Venom | Mar 31 2022 4:30 utc | 252
Oh, btw, do note that in some of the cities where the neo-Nazis have tried to escape, they’ve been detected. The LDR and Russians were using swabs to detect bullet residue to detect Uki soldiers in disguise. Now in a situation where a force is allowed to retreat en mass, this might not be done. But my impression in Syria was that in all these cases, the jihadists were sent to Idlib without weapons. My guess is the retreat will be monitored and Azov will be prohibited from leaving. They’re mostly bottled up now anyway in the steel plant.
I don’t think the Russians and LDR want to see Azov guys sent westward. Bottling jihadists up in Idlib in Syria wasn’t unreasonable, given the circumstances and eventually they will be dealt with. But these Azov scum will just cause more trouble later across Ukraine, not just in one oblast. So I think even if Russia lets them out of Mariupol or elsewhere, they will hit them on the road west from the air, if they are visible in any grouping.
Regular Ukrainian troops probably will be allowed to leave. As has been suggested by Martyanov, they lay down their arms, sign a paper that they won’t ever fight against Russia again, then get sent home. I don’t see Azov personnel getting that deal. They will be detected with all the swastika tattoos, arrested or shot on the spot, especially if Chechens are involved. Yes, that may prolong the fight somewhat. But since most of Mariupol’s population is out of danger at the moment, since the Azov are mostly locked up in the steel plant, I think Russia might pay that price to get rid of them.
Anyway, we’ll see.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 31 2022 6:32 utc | 257

Posted by: Haassaan | Mar 31 2022 5:44 utc | 262
Totally agree. It is dangerous to overestimate the strength of any military, but Russia does not have the power to clear the USA out- or at least they did not until recently. They may be developing it, but it takes time. same with the Donbass. They only now have the strength to take action.
Same was true for the UK in the 1930s. One reason for the appeasement of Hitler was that the UK just did not have the necessary armed forces- especially army and airforce. The book that told me this was written by none other than JFK, as part of his thesis at Oxford. I imagine he may have had a bit of help from daddy’s staff.

Posted by: watcher | Mar 31 2022 6:40 utc | 258

Debsisdead don’t underestimate yourself! I would wager there is a small army of lurkers hanging out for posts from barflies like you.
I am also curious to hear how you think China fits in?

Posted by: Rae | Mar 31 2022 6:52 utc | 259

Posted by: Will | Mar 31 2022 2:07 utc | 228
Superb! Many thanks for that.
I’d add that the standard “M.O.” of all the war lobbyists is cloaking themselves in grandiloquent names like the ISW. When the name is outed, they just conjure another one up as they shave or apply makeup in the morning.
Centre for Global Security
Foundation for Peace
Green World Fund
Sustainable Economic Future Forum
A half-hour to sketch some letterheads and you’re good to go, taking on the usual “experts” for hire. And then the stenographers who pass for journalists can peddle the shite by lying to themselves:
“Well, General Rentaquote of the Foundation for Peace said it, so that’s 500 words towards today’s target. Bombs away! Post!”

Posted by: Cortes | Mar 31 2022 7:06 utc | 260

While I take on board the comment that Russia may not have had the power to directly confront amerika, that was never really at issue. They certainly had the wherewithall to deal to Turkey which was on the outer with amerika at that time, yet Russia did not do so. More importantly Russia despite its assurances that everything would be better after October 2019, have done nothing to bring that about. IOW the October claim was just typical politician prevarication to distract queries until the questioners moved on.
President Assad is certainly much better off now than when he was pre Russian intervention but actual humans who live in Syria, aka Syrians are not doing better.
Russia has gained everything it could hope to have gained; a secure ME base, a naval port in the eastern mediterranean and most importantly control of an area in exactly the correct position to block a pipeline from the ME into Europe. As I said, Syrians not so much.
Only time will tell what happens next, which is why arguing the toss over this is pointless, however, as I said above, going on what has already been did & what has been hid, once Russia gets whatever the Russian elites require out of this conflict, the odds of the position for ordinary Ukrainian russian speakers being improved beyond that point, are exceedingly slim.
The president of Russia got where he is today by serving the elites while he was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg, so why would he change from a proven winning tactic?

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 31 2022 7:14 utc | 261

Tony_0pmoc | Mar 31 2022 0:09 utc | 193
I do acknowledge your postings yet resist filling MOA-space with acks unless I might add s/g worthy. Your remarks on computer tech brings to mind…the Brit creation and spread of Colossus computer tech, first to break codes and later [even more secretly] to sell [i.e. distribute widely] “unbreakable” coding systems that [the secret] Colossus could soon enough decode/read!
Now to the point. In theory, it appears that any communications code can be decoded/read by the formula….
1. Observe and decide what data is needed to break the code.
2. Arrange, by ANY means, to acquire that data. The key is simply to imagine, however wildly viscious or subtle the scenario or trickery/deception, how to pull it off.
E.g., the SHA-256 algorithm for code creation underlies the security for Bitcoin’s processing and it is daunting to sort thru 10^26 [or s/g] possibilities. But in fact human beings are involved all along the way from start to completion of every bitcoin data movement…and any human can be influenced/manipulated by some means or ruse if need be.
Your posting brought all that to mind.

Posted by: chu teh | Mar 31 2022 7:15 utc | 262

Mariupol maternity home. Actress or victim?
https://johnplatinumgoss.com/2022/03/31/war-crime-or-false-flag/

Posted by: John Goss | Mar 31 2022 7:24 utc | 263

The swastika is shot, for better or worse. It doesn’t matter all the things it used to stand for. You can’t use it for that anymore. The Nazis have ruined it pretty much for all of the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Mar 31 2022 2:01 utc | 224
People in the Far East and those who are connected to them beg to differ. You seem to be viewing things through an extremely narrow aperture, as well as being intellectually lazy.
In Buddhism, the swastika is considered to symbolize the auspicious footprints of the Buddha. The left-facing swastika is often imprinted on the chest, feet or palms of Buddha images. It is an aniconic symbol for the Buddha in many parts of Asia and homologous with the dharma wheel.
I knew this from traveling in the Far East but the same could be found in less than 20 sec thanks to CIA’s Google.
————————————————————————
Let me introduce you to one, if you can understand the maths and physics
https://www.gasresources.net/
Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 30 2022 23:01 utc | 162
So you are a believer in the “abiotic petroleum origins” ? Do you know why this originated in USSR ? Let me give you a hint if you don’t.

It’s easy to see why. The West Siberian basin is the largest petroleum basin in the world, covering 2.2 million square kilometers between the Ural Mountains and Yenisei River, extending from Kazakhstan in the south to under parts of the Kara Sea in the north.
The region contains dozens of super-giant and giant oilfields, including Samotlor with 28 billion barrels of oil originally in place, and Urengoy with more than 350 trillion cubic feet of original gas reserves.
The first oil discovery in the region was made in 1953. Most of the large oil and gas fields were discovered in the 1960s and 1970s. Since then, new field discoveries have been much smaller, which helped fuel the peak-oil panic in the early 21st century.
But more than 90 percent of that oil is thought to have come originally from a layer of black shale averaging just 20-40 meters thick and buried almost 3 km beneath the surface. Now oil and gas companies are trying to figure out how to go straight to the source, known as the Bazhenov shale

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-shale-kemp-idUSKBN0FN0GO20140718
That’s the sources of that oil. But, and this is a huge BUT, the rate of oil migration from the Bazhenov is extremely slow and will not “refill” those fields mentioned above. Once they started to be produced they went on a decline and no magic “abiotic petroleum origins” theory has manged to refill them as I write.
http://theoildrum.com/node/8886#comment-868415
You are out of your depth in this department.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 31 2022 7:28 utc | 264

A thought provoking article. Biden truly are a menace to all life on earth. How many times does Putin have to give before this can go nuclear.
https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/n-war-risk-real-bidens-living-a-dangerous-fantasy/
Also Doctowrs finally in this story. It’s a week old but the last part has a sobering reaction.
https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2022/03/17/this-is-how-the-world-ends/
The accusation that Putin is a ‘war criminal’ coming from the top U.S. leadership has far greater importance than Western media have given to it. For them, it is just one more joke in a long line of adjectives vilifying the Russian leader. For Biden as Vice President, Putin was ‘a thug.’ For Biden one month into his presidency, Putin was ‘a killer.’ Now the words ‘war criminal’ are actionable, not merely descriptive. In this regard, Vladimir Putin is no longer a man with whom you can negotiate a peace deal in Ukraine Instead, he is a dangerous man who you can justifiably assassinate.
A call for Putin’s assassination was made by Republican Senator Lindsey Graham on 4 March. That utterly outrageous and vile statement was never properly rebuked by the President, by the Secretary of State.
If there are officials in the Biden administration who are actually seeking to have the Russian President assassinated, then it is one more example of their total ignorance of the ‘enemy,’ an ignorance that is possible only because anyone who knows something worth knowing is denounced in American universities and on air as a Putin stooge.
The murder of Vladimir Putin in the present context of the ongoing war to the death over global overlordship would surely precipitate the launch of Russia’s nuclear arsenal against the United States. As I have said in the past, the Russian political elite is much more aggressive and much readier to push the button than Vladimir Vladimirovich. I have also said and here repeat, that the Russian Federation likely has First Strike Capability, meaning that it can launch a nuclear attack first, destroy nearly all of America’s arsenals and most important population centers, disorganize or frustrate any counter attack, and rely on its well developed anti-ballistic missile defenses to ward off any of the residual U.S. capability. That was the clear objective of Putin back in 2007 when Russia was humiliated and impotent before the American hegemon. He reached that objective in 2018.

Posted by: col from OZ | Mar 31 2022 7:37 utc | 265

Circumspect @ 239
Ruble is currently a 82.25 to the dollar. So 5000 rubles is $60.79, not $52 as your source had it just a few days ago. This is a huge change in a short time. The peg to gold is one of the reasons why.
The other way to see this is the dollar has been devalued. By Russia. If trends continue no one will want dollars. The scenario of a complete dollar collapse is plausible.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 31 2022 7:40 utc | 266

BASF announced to stop it biggest plant without Russian gas. No acetylene, no ammonia. Half Germany stops working. Now they are shocked.
This is the message.
They don’t know what they are doing. They don’t have control. The have to go to Putin and ask him. Everybody notices exactly that.
May be some start to think now.

Posted by: njet | Mar 31 2022 7:44 utc | 267

If someone is not able to access Ministry of Defense of Russia!
Latest briefing.
31.03.2022 (10:15)
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia
The divisions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, continuing their offensive operations, took complete control of the settlement of Zolotaya Niva, crossed the Kashlagach River and entrenched themselves on a favorable line.
Promotion per day was 6 kilometers. Destroyed up to 60 Ukrainian nationalists, two tanks, 4 infantry fighting vehicles, 9 vehicles for various purposes.
Units of the Luhansk People’s Republic, having completed the cleansing from the militants of the settlement of Zhitlovka, moved forward 5 kilometers and are fighting with the nationalists on the outskirts of the settlement of Kremennaya.
On the evening of March 30, high-precision air-launched cruise missiles destroyed large fuel bases in the settlements of Dnepropetrovsk, Lisichansk, Chuguev and Novomoskovsk, from which the Ukrainian group of troops in Donbas was supplied with fuel.
During the night, operational-tactical and unmanned aircraft hit 52 military facilities of Ukraine.
Among them: four command posts, one S-300 anti-aircraft missile system south of the Izyum settlement and one Buk-M1 in the Kurakhovo area, two multiple launch rocket systems, one ammunition depot and rocket and artillery weapons, two depots of fuel and lubricants and 38 strongholds and areas of concentration of military equipment.
Air defense systems of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down 18 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the air in the areas of Balakleya, Verbovoye, Verkhnetoretskoye, Dokuchaevsk, Korolyovka, Komarin, Experienced, Pavlovka, Repki, Chernihiv, Chernobyl, Shchors, including one “Bayraktar-TB2” in the Bezymyanny area.

Posted by: k | Mar 31 2022 8:00 utc | 268

juliania and Paul and others interested in New Zealand’s “contribution” to the Ukrainian situation could listen to/watch this –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ2KVesyQug
from this
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/03/30/live-thursmidday-buchanan-manning-signalstech-intel-ops-and-the-defence-of-ukraine/
Buchanan and Manning are fairly odious (Buchanan is a USan x military intelligence blowhard and Manning has the demeanor of the kid in class who snitches to the teacher on a regular basis and likes to be patted on the head and told “good boy”), however they cover some interesting topics. They are of the opinion that things are going badly for Russia because of communication problems and they claim 7 Russian generals have been killed. Richard S Hack and others knowledgeable in the battlefield situation might like to comment.
Because of the stigmatising of certain letters my country will now be known as
Ne ealand (w looks like 2 vs together) where the ignorant will kneel down then bend over!

Posted by: tucenz | Mar 31 2022 8:05 utc | 269

The elbow-bump seen around the world:
https://english.manartv.com.lb/1570846
This is at the Tunxi conference on Afghanistan.
We all know Lavrov plays the major bastard, seemingly one of the few adults on the modern diplomatic scene.
Doing an elbow-bump seems out of character, unless intended to be meaningful somehow.
As for Wang, don’t know anything about him, but Chinese diplomacy is generally very very careful, and so this scene appears as significant, say, as the time Zhou Enlai publicly inspected and then lifted over his head a North-Vietnamese AK-47 knockoff.
As for the bump, where did they get that, and What Could It Mean?

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 8:25 utc | 270

@Tom_12 | 276

That’s the sources of that oil. But, and this is a huge BUT, the rate of oil migration from the Bazhenov is extremely slow and will not “refill” those fields mentioned above. Once they started to be produced they went on a decline and no magic “abiotic petroleum origins” theory has manged to refill them as I write.
http://theoildrum.com/node/8886#comment-868415
You are out of your depth in this department.

Yap. I always scratch my head over these abiotic-origins-equals-neverending-supply people. Abiotic or not, Texas’ oilfields are empty and not refilling any time soon.

Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | Mar 31 2022 8:37 utc | 271

@Boo | Mar 30 2022 21:39 utc | 140
Germany isn’t a souvereign country and it doesn’t run the EU. The purpose of the EU is to get European countries under the thumb of the globalists. In Germany, export companies are doing well, but ordinary Germans have been screwed badly.

Posted by: WhyCantWeJusGetAlong | Mar 31 2022 9:18 utc | 272

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 30 2022 19:30 utc | 94
Does not make sense at all. Gasprom Bank ends up with Euros in some correspondent bank in Germany. What’s the guarantee that the moneys won’t be frozen again in the future?
It doesn’t increase the demand for rubles because it’s an internal transaction. Already 80% of foreign currency had to be sold to the Russian Central Bank. All Euros and Dollars had to be effectively kept in the western banks. Paper is not involved.
Selling gas for rubles would work if Germany had to buy rubles from say India. Then an Indian bank would keep the Euros in a German bank. Many other countries would accept rubles for their export to Russia and then could sell them to EU to buy gas.
Maybe temporarily, maybe because of technical reasons, but effectively Putin gave up on the requirement to pay for gas in rubles.

Posted by: RJB | Mar 31 2022 9:27 utc | 273

The president of Russia got where he is today by serving the elites while he was deputy mayor of St. Petersburg, so why would he change from a proven winning tactic?
Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 31 2022 7:14 utc | 274
I really don’t know. Putin as a leader and diplomat is very consistently promoting peace and co-operation. If its really about oligarchs well we are really all screwed. Let’s see.
Rather than make unsubstantiated statements, why not provide some links to articles exposing Putin’s corruption? I can’t know any of this as I don’t live in Russia so I only depend on what I can read and watch in English.

Posted by: K | Mar 31 2022 9:33 utc | 274

Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 30 2022 22:07 utc | 146
Gas is a fossil fuel.

Posted by: D J G | Mar 31 2022 9:42 utc | 275

Norwegian | Mar 31 2022 6:18 utc | 268
“I think Russia, being very legalistic (in a positive way), would go out of its way to demonstrate that any interruption of gas supply would be caused purely by the bad decisions of ‘west’.”
If Putin doesn’t feel that’s already been sufficiently demonstrated many times over, he’ll never feel any demonstration is enough.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 31 2022 9:42 utc | 276

“Chancellor Scholz did not give consent in this conversation, but only asked for written information in order to better understand the procedure,” Hebestreit said. He added that the G7 agreement remains in force: energy supplies will be paid exclusively in euros and dollars, as stipulated in the contracts.”
Did Scholz explain why he thought that Russia, which is not a G7 member, should be bound by a G7 agreement?

Posted by: D J G | Mar 31 2022 9:58 utc | 277

RJB | Mar 31 2022 9:27 utc | 286
“Does not make sense at all. Gasprom Bank ends up with Euros in some correspondent bank in Germany. What’s the guarantee that the moneys won’t be frozen again in the future?”
So far as I can tell, it means effectively giving away the gas for free in order to strengthen the ruble, toward the longer-run anti-dollar goal.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 31 2022 9:58 utc | 278

The US is so desperate that they are now publicly claiming that the Russian military is lying to Putin about the progress of the war. This is just sad, what is the point of spouting nonsense like that for?
Posted by: Kadath | Mar 31 2022 1:49 utc | 222
I’d say it’s an implicit confession by the “Mightiest Wurlitzer” that demonization of Putin has failed both with the Russian public and the international audience, so now they’re going for the time-honored smear of “evil counselors” instead.

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 10:00 utc | 279

Debsisdead
Naivety as you term it seems to be the end result of ingesting and regurgitating column miles of Russian and Chinese state propaganda along with the coloring inside the line of bought fellow travelers such as Strategic Culture, Pepe Escobar, Michael Hudson (former economist turned outright political hack spouting nonsense about the end of the dollar but sounding economically authoritative while doing so), Scott Ritter and lastly some random Lira guy holed up in a hotel room inside the war zone.
Did I leave anyone of this thin paid line of authorities out of the list?
I recall quite clearly how b and the cringeworthies (or naiveties in your parlance) fell all over themselves with glee making fun of the sure to happen Mighty Putin beat down of Erdogan, Turkey, the clown prince of Saudi and Nutty yahoo, Israel the US (but not Trump for some weird reason) soon to occur in Idleb, which as you note has never occurred. Now the clown prince is now a Putin bestie (b has yet to straighten his twisted rhetorical panties around the former clown prince), Israel is an active interlocutor for Invasion neutrality and Erdogan of all peeps is the current big brother sensitively leading little bro Vladimir away from his juvenile Hitler fixation and back into the comforting back rooms of globalization.
And lets not sully a hair on any headchopper heads under Erdo’s control during this delicate attempt at providing adolescent therapy to a putative world leader.
Can a hardened armchair cynic become completely brainwashed into naivete or is the rigid conformity of the brutally fascist-minded echo chamber that has become MoA required to finish the job?
Brecht of course has long since ceased rolling over in his grave at the neofascist farce perpetrated herein under his august name on the banner.

Posted by: Useless meat beater | Mar 31 2022 10:02 utc | 280

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 10:00 utc | 292
the Wurlitzer has so far gotten most of the US public on board, but Americans are in it for the short haul; when the costs keep rising, those ukraine flags are going to disappear I think.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 31 2022 10:08 utc | 281

Jesus, there’s absolutely nothing good about the European Greens, is there?
Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Mar 31 2022 1:58 utc | 224
Every”Green” Party I know of has been quickly overrun and subverted by the usual “progressives,” ie Mob-princes and -princesses and their enablers, champions and wannabes all virtue-signaling away, in blissful post-moral, post-rational and post-biological “post-modernism,” which is a neo-Pythagorean cult, reifying word and belief, at least of the Mob or elite.
Hubris.

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 10:16 utc | 282

Putin wants to give the US a taste of what it did to Russia in the 90’s. That’s the real goal.
Posted by: Lex | Mar 30 2022 23:45 utc | 184
America’s been getting that since the mid-80’s at latest.
And the sheep bleat on.

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 10:23 utc | 283

John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 10:23 utc | 296
The sheep, in this case the Western media presstitutes, are indeed bleating. In fact the best indication yet that Putin is really getting to them. Despite all the gloating about the ineptitude of the Special Military Operation it just keeps rolling along, pretty well exactly as Putin first described its objectives.
I still remember the Western media criticism of Putin’s “long boring speech” that he made at the start of the SMO. What is now happening is exactly what he described. What a pity that they didn’t read it. Obviously a document with any more then two paragraphs is beyond their attention span.
Given the amount of time that Russia has had to prepare for this project its no surprise that all the objectives coalesce into an interlinked set of outcomes. But day by day we are seeing a progression which is making the Empire Of Lies look increasingly inept.
By throwing the gas payment lifeline to Germany, Russia has guaranteed that it will at least pay for its gas with Euros. The receiving bank will not be sanctioned because if it is the gas will stop. So whatever the US says the rest of Europe will be scrambling to get into the same payment queue. Saddam Hussein was killed for merely wanting to be paid in Euros for his oil. Now the EU is throwing them at Russia.
Hard to see how the sanctions against Russia last more than 5 minutes in that climate.

Posted by: Cyberhorse | Mar 31 2022 10:54 utc | 284

When the costs keep rising, those ukraine flags are going to disappear I think.
Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 31 2022 10:08 utc | 294
It is among the evils, and perhaps not the smallest, of democratical governments, that the people must feel before they will see.
George Washington

Posted by: John Kennard | Mar 31 2022 10:56 utc | 285

Hey Meat Eater, what army do you command? We won’t be seeing you putting your brave face out there, will we? I thought not. And talk about spouting nonsense. We’ll soon see who is fixated. The U.S. has just released 1 million barrels/day from its SPR trying to keep a lid on things. Good luck with that.

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Mar 31 2022 14:20 utc | 286

Breaking: The German „Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten“ (German Economic News) news outlet reported at 1400 UTC that according to Reuters, foreign buyers of Russian gas would be required to pay in Rubles through the Gazprombank as per tomorrow, 1. April 2022:
“Reuters news agency reports: Russian President Vladimir Putin said he has signed a decree requiring foreign buyers to pay for Russian gas in rubles from Friday. Contracts would be stopped if those payments were not made, Putin said Thursday.
“However, dpa reports, Putin ordered Western countries to open accounts with Gazprombank, effective April 1, to continue receiving Russian gas. Otherwise, supplies to the “unfriendly” countries would be cut off, Putin said Thursday on Russian state television. It was initially unclear whether the states themselves must already pay in rubles or whether a euro payment would be converted directly.”
Having chosen that specific date, I wonder if V. Putin is sending an additional message to those concerned.

Posted by: GreyRaven | Mar 31 2022 14:24 utc | 287

Addendum:
For reasons unknown, I’m unable to post the link to the DWN report mentioned above in #300. Sorry. It’s on their front page.

Posted by: GreyRaven | Mar 31 2022 14:39 utc | 288

Here, the same report regarding Russian gas sales by the Austrian Broadcasting Corporation (ORF):
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said he has signed a decree requiring foreign buyers to pay for Russian gas in rubles starting tomorrow. Contracts would be stopped if those payments were not made, Putin said. “If such payments are not made, we will consider that as a default by buyers with all the resulting consequences,” the president said. “Nobody sells us anything for nothing, and we will not do charity – that is, existing contracts will be stopped.”
“He further stated that Western countries will have to open accounts with the Gazprombank in order to continue receiving Russian gas. The West has so far rejected demands for payment in rubles. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said in an initial reaction that the supply contracts state that payment will be made in euros. He had told Putin that this would remain the case.”
https://news.orf.at/#/stories/3257034/

Posted by: GreyRaven | Mar 31 2022 14:51 utc | 289

Lukashenko might help negociations: I heard that crack 103rd paratrooper brigade from Vitebsk (Belarus) is itching to take over Lutsk and Lvov.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 31 2022 14:52 utc | 290

Useless meat beater <- Clumsy Trolling Attempt Award.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 31 2022 14:57 utc | 291

Didn’t the Russians offer safe passage from Mariupol WITH THEIR WEAPONS for Ukrainian soldiers a week or so ago?

Posted by: Ken Meyercord | Mar 31 2022 15:22 utc | 292

Didn’t the Russians offer safe passage WITH THEIR WEAPONS for Ukrainian fighters a week or so ago?

Posted by: Ken Meyercord | Mar 31 2022 15:36 utc | 293

Do me a favour you guys across the herring-pond and boycott the New York Post. It’s like our Sun. Full of shit. Sorry, no other word for it.
https://johnplatinumgoss.com/2022/03/31/boycott-the-new-york-post/

Posted by: John Goss | Mar 31 2022 15:41 utc | 294

Who the heck is doing George Galloway’s research ? I like the guy but this one does him no justice.

George Galloway
@georgegalloway Mar 30
Here is the Ukrainian fascist Jew-killer #Bandera with his #Nazi friends. You wave his flag if you want to. I just feel sick at your stupidity. #UkraineRussiaWar #Russia #Ukraine #GallowayShow @MoatsTV #BabiYar

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1509156881151012874
https://twitter.com/Idl3/status/1509537062181085185
Bandera was never a high rank German officer.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 31 2022 15:55 utc | 295

https://twitter.com/nrg8000/status/1509518391362859015?s=21&t=yYMiP_zr_u0Eb88BUI8W3Q
Maps here suggest Ukraine is regaining territory. Are these accurate or just yet more propaganda? Some of the comments are hilarious.

Posted by: Keith | Mar 31 2022 16:05 utc | 296

@oldhippie #279
There is no peg of the ruble to gold.

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 31 2022 16:26 utc | 297

Here’s a jaw-dropping video to watch, Putin’s Greater Russia, four insane people spouting insane, racist garbage on Russia. Some key points I took away from this “discussion” Russian “spy churches” are everywhere, “Putin is dying!”, my favorite part was them interviewing an actual Russian who supports Putin and Russia and the narrator says that he has a Russian character trait that is vital for Russians more than ever, “resignation”!?! These people have spent so long eating their own shit, they think it is completely normal and that everyone who doesn’t agree with them is insane and can be completely ignored. Special shout out to the supreme nitwit Craig Copetas, who laughs whenever a recording of Russia is played and identifies the new Russian super weapon, “Spy Churches!” – Russia TV should pay this interview non-stop on their channels to see what the “West” really thinks of Russian people, culture and religion.

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 31 2022 17:11 utc | 298

From Bloomberg:

Russia aims to keep supplying gas to European customers even as it demands they shift to payment in rubles, President Vladimir Putin said. The comment eased fears that the shift could lead to disruptions from the continent’s biggest supplier.
“We will continue to supply gas in the volumes and at prices set down in the current long-term agreements,” Putin said in televised comments. “Russia values its business reputation.”
European officials said the change to rubles isn’t likely to affect supplies. “For us, with regard to Putin’s threat or announcement or plan — one doesn’t really know what to call it anymore — to get paid in rubles, the main point is that the contracts are being kept,” said German Economy Minister Robert Habeck said.

This being of course merely the latest turn, it does sound like Russia caved. Sad. Here is more from the same source for context:

Draghi said the Russian leader told him in a phone call Wednesday that EU companies will still be able to pay for gas in euros or dollars and the ruble conversion will take place internally, echoing statements made to German Chancellor Olaf Scholz that were relayed by the government in Berlin. The Italian premier said switching currencies for such contracts is no simple matter.
“It is absolutely not easy to change the currency used to pay for key goods internationally,” Draghi said during a press conference Thursday. Converting to euro payments in recent years has been difficult enough, he said.
The Kremlin was less clear on the details. Putin’s chief spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said there will be practically no change for buyers of Russian gas after the payment procedure is changed, though he told reporters in Moscow that “they just buy rubles with the currency set down in the supply contract.”

This “internal conversion” is exactly how things have worked for all these decades, with the exception that it will not happen through the sanctioned Central Bank of Russia anymore. Rubles can be created by Russia at will, and the only significant factor is that the EU will just like before not need to provide real goods and services against those rubles (and by extension, the natural gas it receives). This is why the EU is satisfied with the so-called “new” agreement.
As others have pointed out, Russia will still be stuck with euros in correspondent accounts in European banks. There is simply no other way that Russia can be “paid in rubles” while still continuing to accept euros, and it’s unclear if Putin understands this or the implications of this. These funds of course can (and will) be frozen by the West, just like the Central Bank of Russia’s 300 billion dollars worth of foreign reserves were.
It’s also unclear if Putin realizes why European leaders are so relieved, and why they are even stressing that they are happy with the outcome because “the existing contracts are served”. It’s because they (at least for now) tricked Putin into accepting a complete sham. Russia has every right to declare force majeure (“sanctions” are even explicitly mentioned in the existing contracts) but because Putin “values Russia’s business reputation”, he is willing to continue to deliver gas against euros the EU won’t allow Russia to spend.
This would be comical if it wasn’t so pathetic and so humilitating for a country that doesn’t deserve it. “Russia’s business reputation” is precisely as a country that you can rob blind, openly cheat and spit in the face while demanding, and counting on, that it won’t “renege on its obligations”. It’s not a reputation one should be proud of having or seeking to cement further.

Posted by: Unnamed | Mar 31 2022 17:28 utc | 299

Regarding the NatGas delivery and payment -to the EU- story…
Putin (and I would figure Russia in whole) wanted to maintain close ties with Europe: figure these are countries in your close proximity! Maintaining the high road while the US undermines the EU will eventually prove the right path. As long as trade does not occur using USD then the direction forward (which requires the demotion of the USD on the world’s currency stage to be knocked down) is quite sane. Russia can, at any time, apply “rules based order” and turn valves OFF.
This is how the USD implodes. Inflation shy-rocketing is the only way that FIAT currencies try to escape the black hole; but, it’s less about pointing in such a direction as much as it’s a matter of being sucked in to that direction (by inescapable forces). Europe has a bit of a choice; Putin/Russia is giving them time to comprehend the realities before them (European nations).
A bit of an aside, I’m wondering what folks think is the future (from the fallout) for Canada and Australia. I can’t quite figure these out, though Canada, in my mind, is one of the three countries that “could” manage to carry on in some semblance of today’s status quo (pared down, but most aspects of an economy still managing to show signs of life): US and, of course, Russia being the other two- ALL have a fair swath of own resources, all have decent AG lands to support their current populations.

Posted by: Seer | Mar 31 2022 17:57 utc | 300