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March 30, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-38
Only news & views related to the Ukraine conflict …
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I’ve been wondering why Russia fails to prevent a lot of the western-donated weapons from entering Ukraine. They were most precise last week targeting and destroying a merc training base near Poland and a fuel and weapons depot. Are the Ukies “just that good” at smuggling arms and ammo to their forces? Posted by: ERing46Z | Mar 30 2022 15:06 utc | 1 The Polish PM claiming that anti-Russian sentiment is now the order of the day in Poland, otherwise known as hate crime to you and I. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 15:06 utc | 2 UK PM Boris Johnson wants more fire power deliver to the Nazi’s, to “take” the fight to Russia. One option is the British AS-90 self propelled guns. Anti-ship missiles and drones are also on the menu. Its patently obvious that the West doesn’t want this war to end, even moreso in an Ukrainian defeat. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 15:11 utc | 3 The crisis in Ukraine represents a huge danger to world peace. The two biggest nuclear powers are fighting by proxy (nothing new) but this conflict risks engulfing all Europe -at first. Because it will spread, and is fatally connected to other flash points: china in particular. The dispute in Ukraine cannot be disentangled from the growing Sino-American confrontation, with the US seeking to preserve its global dominance. Such clashes have always led to major wars. In the last hundred years they have resulted in two world wars. History suggests we are about to face another. https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/ Posted by: peter mcloughlin | Mar 30 2022 15:13 utc | 5 The Ukraine, with their ludicrous proposals, is currently being restructured into 404. Posted by: bjd | Mar 30 2022 15:13 utc | 6 Pepe is back on Twitter dropping Ukraine tweets. Any bets on how long he will last there? Posted by: JMW | Mar 30 2022 15:14 utc | 7 Poland is an embarrassing Western satrapy with no future,no one cares what those dogs think. Posted by: Lolgege | Mar 30 2022 15:14 utc | 8 ERing46Z– Estonia’s PM thinks that the EU shouldn’t pay for Russian oil and gas, and instead the money they owe Russia should be used to rebuild Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 15:18 utc | 10 this Pentagon reporter has stated that the Pentagon plans to buy hundreds of FEWER Javelin missiles this year than it did last year, DESPITE giving away thousands of them to Ukraine. https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1508517753413636096 Posted by: Manage without me | Mar 30 2022 15:22 utc | 12 So Ritter says somewhere the Russians counted on Kharkiv surrendering/changing sides without a fight but misjudged. Or the extremists were put in all the right places to maintain the ‘order’. Similarly there are stories about neonazis cutting of routes of retreat so army has to keep on fighting. This is an additional way in which you can nazify the country with limited support. Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Mar 30 2022 15:25 utc | 13 First it was the Swiss insurance company dropping the letter Z, now Samsung has followed suit, however no word of any country wanting the Z from AZOV or NaZi dropped yet, the emperor truly has no clothes on but the masses are to scared to reveal this. The Western media via cognitive warfare has brainwashed many in the West. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 15:28 utc | 14 @ ERing46Z | Mar 30 2022 15:06 utc | 1 Posted by: Steve | Mar 30 2022 15:30 utc | 15 Global Times notes an event of importance: “Xi to meet EU leaders virtually at key summit, to inject positive energy to world amid Ukraine crisis”:
Although trade between China and EU displaced that between China and ASEAN as #1 during the first two months of 2022, that was prior to EU incomes taking a big hit from the sanctions it levied on Russia at the behest of the Outlaw US Empire and will have far fewer euros to spend over the upcoming months. China obviously would like the current level of trade to continue, but that just isn’t going to happen. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the EU follows its master’s diktat and sanctions China. @Republicofscotland Posted by: Manage without me | Mar 30 2022 15:32 utc | 17 Former PM and President Medvedev’s been writing quite a lot about the situation with the West, and another snippet is at RT. @karlof1 (16) Posted by: bjd | Mar 30 2022 15:40 utc | 19 those bio-weapons labs said by Nuland to be for medical bio-research –
Illegal on US soil, these bio-weapons labs are deployed throughout other willing countries. US has violated all International treaties and Conventions because they consider themselves exceptional. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 30 2022 15:42 utc | 20 It seems the Russians are ready to name names when it comes to the biolabs complex in Ukraine and the disgusting plans they were developing. Reports are everywhere in the Russian media. Details here. You’ll probably need a Russian VPN server and autotranslate if you don’t speak Russian. Posted by: pasha | Mar 30 2022 15:43 utc | 21 Whoa! Surprise RT links can again be included in comments, at least for the moment as m @18 shows. Medvedev writes about the onset of the new international financial order, the following being the meat: BREAKING (TASS): German Chancellor Scholz and Russian President Putin have agreed to hold talks on gas purchases for roubles. Posted by: aquileia | Mar 30 2022 15:50 utc | 23 @ karlof1 16 Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 30 2022 15:51 utc | 24 On Motor Sich again, according to this article: Posted by: factory | Mar 30 2022 15:54 utc | 25 The “Russian gas thingy” is planned to take the blame for the debt as money accruing ever compounding interest Ponzi scheme numbers growing new digits at an ever increasing rate becoming untenable. Posted by: Carl | Mar 30 2022 15:54 utc | 26 An ongoing series I am writing about the “information war” in Ukraine – I have some insider perspective on that (from the American side) Posted by: Ian Kummer | Mar 30 2022 15:57 utc | 27 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 15:18 utc | 10 Posted by: Awe | Mar 30 2022 16:03 utc | 28 ERing46Z | Mar 30 2022 15:06 utc | 1 Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 30 2022 16:06 utc | 29 Announcement on Sputnik as breaking news:
Keywords: “not the final result” but Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 30 2022 16:07 utc | 30 Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 30 2022 15:16 utc | 9 Posted by: juliania | Mar 30 2022 16:10 utc | 31 “Ladies and Gentlemen, in the context of this terrible event which is the war in Ukraine, Poland sets some standards, and what was previously called Russophobia is now mainstream, it is already accepted as a reality,” Morawiecki said.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/poland-appoints-ex-banker-with-jewish-roots-as-prime-minister/ Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 30 2022 16:10 utc | 32 No Comment needed Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 30 2022 16:11 utc | 33 All this talk by BoJo, Joe Bribem and all the other politicians, about getting more weapons to Ukraine is in reality all about kickbacks and washing money. Foriegn aide is the legal transfer of tax payor monies to someone’s pocket. It should be outlawed. A clown with a net worth of $100k gets elected to congress at a salary of $150k. 12 years.later he’s worth $50 million. It’s a magic show. And no one says boo. Posted by: the grand wazoo | Mar 30 2022 16:11 utc | 34 Ukrainian secret services took hostages workers of civil nuclear industry of Russian Federation. Posted by: Arioch | Mar 30 2022 16:13 utc | 35 The outcomes of the Ukrainian campaign are starting to exceed my expectations with respect to US/Western harakiri: On the letter “Z”, as in ‘nazi’: Posted by: juliania | Mar 30 2022 16:28 utc | 37 The agitprop machine constantly shouts at Russia to hurry it up, already. Meanwhile, Russia strokes her chin, considering her next move. As if she thinks time is on her side. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 30 2022 16:30 utc | 38 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 15:11 utc | 3 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 30 2022 16:39 utc | 39 Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 30 2022 15:16 utc | 9 Posted by: Paco | Mar 30 2022 16:42 utc | 40 Lavrov’s very busy today. He’s now in China for talks prior to the Xi/EU video meet, and he had this to say in his opening remarks:
I see his remarks as very important since the EU expects China to be neutral in its relations with Russia, and that’s not happening as they’re strategic partners. Here’s the summary of their talks issued to media from which I note the following:
BOOM!!! This explosive announcement was given little exposure at RT, which published a short item with the title, “Russia and China to advance ‘fair world order.’” Lavrov’s quip at the end is priceless. Posted by: Roger | Mar 30 2022 16:17 utc | 36 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 30 2022 16:49 utc | 42 So western corporate media now claims that Putin feels misled by his military and that the Russian operation is in chaos. Posted by: Stephen | Mar 30 2022 16:51 utc | 43
I don’t see that as being possible as Russia does not control the gas pipelines through Italy. Only 28% of Italy’s gas is from Russia. The author of the original tweet said it was a joke. Posted by: Opport Knocks | Mar 30 2022 16:51 utc | 44 Manage without me (17). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 16:54 utc | 45 Awe (28). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 16:56 utc | 46 Paco @40– BREAKING (TASS): German Chancellor Scholz and Russian President Putin have agreed to hold talks on gas purchases for roubles. Posted by: mk | Mar 30 2022 16:58 utc | 48 Paul Greenwood (39). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 17:01 utc | 49 mk (48). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 17:05 utc | 50 What will happen to Germany after April first? Will Russia really close the tap if Germany doesn’t pay in Rubbles? Posted by: Haldane | Mar 30 2022 17:11 utc | 51 Hopefully, all barflies can see the intersection of policy with ruble pricing of Russian commodities and Lavrov’s announcement in China that the Multipolar World will be based on the UN Charter, which begs the question about the status of those who refuse to obey International Law. The Outlaw US Empire is an Outlaw because it’s violated the UN Charter ever since it came into force in October 1945. I don’t expect the UN system to be rebooted this year as the extremely important global financial system needs to be overhauled first. But you can bet that what Lavrov announced as the most important aspect of the new world being the equality of all nations will become the framework for international security it ought to be, which directly relates to Russia’s security proposals that the Outlaws rejected but will now be forced to accept or be ostracized from the rest of humanity. @Haldane: definitely not on April 1, as I said in #48 Posted by: mk | Mar 30 2022 17:21 utc | 53 Thank you, karlof1 | Mar 30 2022 16:46 utc | 41, for quoting from Lavrov’s recent press conference. I will re-present some of it here before adding my own remarks:
First, there is an adroit scriptural switch in Lavrov’s answer to the first question above — “all others — are friendly–“. Beautifully stated to enlarge the latter group, and leave a possibility for positive changes. Posted by: juliania | Mar 30 2022 17:28 utc | 54 jo6pac @ 33 Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 30 2022 17:28 utc | 55 Ze would make a perfect figurehead for Russia’s transitional govt in Ukraine. western psyops have propped him up so many that any negotiation he signs with Russia cannot be delegitimized. sure they can do a total 180 on him but in a way they just built up a tool that Russia can now use. all Russia has to do is guarantee his safety. if I were Ze, why not switch sides? Posted by: mastameta | Mar 30 2022 17:33 utc | 56 juliania @54–
The eventual revamping of the UN that Lavrov hinted at today can’t happen soon enough, IMO. It’s been highly corrupted by the Outlaw US Empire which refuses to abide by its laws. Posted by: mastameta | Mar 30 2022 17:33 utc | 56 Posted by: Paco | Mar 30 2022 17:55 utc | 58 I find arcane the nuts and bolts of Germany paying for gas in rubles but it seems they too are figuring it out. once the tap is flowing, there’s no limit to how much they can buy and no reason they would not buy more. Posted by: mastameta | Mar 30 2022 17:55 utc | 59 Prepare for EMP phase of the war. Posted by: Mixxi | Mar 30 2022 17:58 utc | 60 My takeaway from the almost crash of Germany is that the Green party is full of ideologues that must be defeated. They will easily sacrifice the well being of the ppl living here for their ideologic purity (russian haters + warmongers + ecostalinists). The Green party has tons of support from MSM journalists, who dont depend on industry jobs and can write lofty pieces about how Germany doesnt need Russian gas anyway. I hope that this almost crash has led to a complete break up between the Green party on the on side and unions and industry bosses on the other, that both will work together to defeat the Green party. This party only represnts a tiny fraction of Germans, but has everybody else in a stranglehold. They must be defeated. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 30 2022 18:09 utc | 61 @paco 58 Posted by: mastameta | Mar 30 2022 18:10 utc | 62 Russia has a fantastic history of cinema. Perhaps the “Z” is an homage to Z by Costa Gavras by some cinema fan in the Russian Ministry of Defense. Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 30 2022 18:16 utc | 63 @Anne 61 Posted by: mastameta | Mar 30 2022 18:26 utc | 64 @63 lex talionis Posted by: Circe | Mar 30 2022 18:29 utc | 65 Posted by: Mixxi | Mar 30 2022 17:58 utc | 60 Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 18:31 utc | 66 Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 30 2022 16:06 utc | 29 Posted by: Kim | Mar 30 2022 18:33 utc | 67 Hungarian politician claiming Ukraine is interfering in its Thursday elections. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 18:41 utc | 69 “Germany says Putin agreed to keep payments for gas in euros” according to DW and other news sources. I hope it’s false. Posted by: Sundial | Mar 30 2022 18:41 utc | 70 https://finanzmarktwelt.de/scholz-putin-gazprom-euro-230325/ Posted by: mk | Mar 30 2022 18:46 utc | 71 As Lugansk seeks to join Russia, another breakaway region recognised by Russia, also wants to join the Russian Federation, Georgian authorities might not be pleased with this. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 18:50 utc | 72 News from Lavrov in China and testing if links to RTs will work.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 30 2022 18:50 utc | 73 Here’s an English version of the same story: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-says-putin-agreed-to-keep-payments-for-gas-in-euros/a-61310461 Posted by: Sundial | Mar 30 2022 18:52 utc | 74 @ 8 Posted by: Cadence Calls | Mar 30 2022 18:54 utc | 75 “It’s a complete cop-out by Russia if that is the case. Russia is offering a way out to an openly hostile entity.” Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 18:57 utc | 76 jo6pac 33 Posted by: pogohere | Mar 30 2022 19:01 utc | 77 Estonia’s PM thinks that the EU shouldn’t pay for Russian oil and gas, and instead the money they owe Russia should be used to rebuild Ukraine. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 30 2022 19:01 utc | 78 Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 18:57 utc | 76 Posted by: Boo | Mar 30 2022 19:02 utc | 79 Sundial | Mar 30 2022 18:52 utc | 74 Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 19:04 utc | 80 From RT: Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 30 2022 19:08 utc | 81 Boo | Mar 30 2022 19:02 utc | 79 Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 19:09 utc | 82 Boo @ 30 Posted by: circumspect | Mar 30 2022 19:11 utc | 83 I am reading that Gazprom is not included in the sanctions and Putin has told the Russian Central Bank to do the conversion from Euro payments to Gazprom to Roubles….is the Russian Central Bank going to be cut off from BIS?…stay tuned Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 30 2022 19:12 utc | 84 mk @71– i see ttg making an ass of himself over at pat langs retro 50’s anti commie site.. Posted by: james | Mar 30 2022 19:13 utc | 86 To me, Russia acts in Ukraine like the mouse that eats the cheese but does not spring the trap. In particular, Russia has avoided entering Kiev with tanks – good. Posted by: Passerby | Mar 30 2022 19:13 utc | 87 @Hausmeister #76 Posted by: Sundial | Mar 30 2022 19:18 utc | 88 I do not watch TV, well I did very briefly tonight cos she had it on. They were redoing some old story of some kid, who died. Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Mar 30 2022 19:23 utc | 89 Passerby | Mar 30 2022 19:13 utc | 87 Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 19:23 utc | 90 Posted by: mastameta | Mar 30 2022 17:55 utc | 59 Posted by: GreyRaven | Mar 30 2022 19:24 utc | 91 get Natan Ben-Nun of the Rabbi Nachman Foundation in Uman to give us a tour of the ground level floor.. Posted by: james | Mar 30 2022 19:27 utc | 92 at the end of the day russia already gave up on gas payment in rubles. russia still thinks this is a beauty contest. you can still pay in toilet paper known as american dollar and we (russia) will convert it into rubles? wtf? america and the eu are not concerned what russia would like to do with dollars and euros, as far as they can tell, russia can burn them or destroy them but they get their gas anyway. russia is making joke of himself because they can’t stick to anything longer than a few days. pathetic. Posted by: denazi | Mar 30 2022 19:27 utc | 93 The ruble payment regime isn’t to start until April 1. Perhaps it goes like this: From the Saker, beware Nazi’s we will get you for torturing and killing Russian prisoners, you can run but you can’t hide. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 30 2022 19:31 utc | 95 Sundial | Mar 30 2022 19:18 utc | 88 Posted by: Hausmeister | Mar 30 2022 19:36 utc | 96 @karlof1 | Mar 30 2022 19:12 utc | 85 Posted by: aquadraht | Mar 30 2022 19:37 utc | 97 @ denazi | Mar 30 2022 19:27 utc | 93 Posted by: james | Mar 30 2022 19:38 utc | 98 The Financial War
“anti-competitive behaviour” Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 30 2022 19:39 utc | 99 “According to the text, Gazprom Bank is to accept euros for gas deliveries. ” Posted by: Milos | Mar 30 2022 19:46 utc | 100 |
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