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March 27, 2022
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-36
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Just looked at a video in German by a German official who apparently actually said this, according to the translation…
LOL The frickin’ Germans have lost their minds. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 7:46 utc | 201 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 6:42 utc | 189 Posted by: Vajezatha | Mar 28 2022 7:48 utc | 202 Latest briefing from Russian MoD Telegram channel…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 7:49 utc | 203 Posted by: Cadence calls | Mar 28 2022 5:30 utc | 176 Posted by: Paul | Mar 28 2022 8:02 utc | 204 RE Richard Hack – 201 Posted by: Aslangeo | Mar 28 2022 8:14 utc | 205 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 7:46 utc | 201 Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 28 2022 8:15 utc | 206 @K | Mar 28 2022 4:21 utc | 160
Gonzalo Lira is from Chile, South America. Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 28 2022 8:18 utc | 207 1700 tanks destroyed of a total of no more than 2,500? Seems like Ukraine should be throwing in the towel by now. But I guess all those Nazi Zionist Pedophile Puppet rulers are not going to let Russia bring Peace and Stability to their Authoritarian Hellscape of a (psuedo)nation. Posted by: Mr Green Jeans | Mar 28 2022 8:21 utc | 208 Ruble payments to be implemented by March 31 Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 28 2022 8:37 utc | 209 German Chancellor Scholz Says Berlin May Abandon Imports of Russian Coal and Oil This Year https://sputniknews.com/20220328/german-chancellor-scholz-says-berlin-may-abandon-imports-of-russian-coal-and-oil-this-year-1094251040.html
Posted by: Laurence | Mar 28 2022 8:41 utc | 210 The consequences of the conflict in Ukraine are increased prices – gas, electricity, gasoline – and scarcity – empty shelves where there used to be milk or vegetable oil. Posted by: Passerby | Mar 28 2022 8:43 utc | 211 @Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 7:46 utc | 201 Posted by: WhyCantWeJusGetAlong | Mar 28 2022 8:49 utc | 212 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 7:46 utc | 201
If ze Eskimos can do it, ze Germans can too! Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 28 2022 9:01 utc | 213 Latest from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense: Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 28 2022 9:37 utc | 214 German minister tells people to turn the heating thermostat down to 15 degrees C to stuff Putin? Posted by: Martina | Mar 28 2022 9:52 utc | 215 More and more stories of Ukrainian atrocities on Russian POWs and by Azov battalion on ethnic Russian Ukrainian civilians in Mariupol. Horrific torture and inscribing a swastika on a dead young woman: https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/ Posted by: PJB | Mar 28 2022 10:10 utc | 217 c1ue #14
Not quite sure what the ‘obvious reasons’ are for those two clown states. Obummer’s JCPOA was the only time in recent history that anyone has pinned the donkey tail onto the forehead of an Israeli president. Obummer hated Netanyahoo and he likewise. Trump hated Obummer and could barely stomach the thought that he FOLLOWED a black man as president and so did every undo thing possible around Obummer. Trump also loved to cosy up in the chabad on a regular basis and was extremely accommodating of the land thief in the middle east. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 28 2022 10:18 utc | 218 Sometimes when I write something, I have a couple of phrases bouncing around in my mind, but I really have no clue what else I’m going to say because aside from a phrase, an image or a sentence, all I have is instinct, and the less I have to work with, the more instinctual feeling I need to release what’s missing. This is one of those moments, so I really don’t know where this is heading. Posted by: Circe | Mar 28 2022 10:21 utc | 219 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 6:42 utc | 189 Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 28 2022 10:29 utc | 220 Passerby #115
It is highly likely that Russia will stay from east to west and north to south. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 28 2022 10:37 utc | 221 Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Mar 28 2022 10:14 utc | 218 Posted by: JB | Mar 28 2022 10:38 utc | 222 Precise technical details are lacking, but regional media reports indicate it will likely dwarf the massive Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River and generate three times as much electricity for distribution in China while robbing India of water from Himalayan and Tibetan snowmelt. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Mar 28 2022 10:42 utc | 223 Some results of the work of Ukrainian railways for the month of NWO. Posted by: Kim | Mar 28 2022 11:06 utc | 224 @JB | Mar 28 2022 10:38 utc | 224 Posted by: WhyCantWeJusGetAlong | Mar 28 2022 11:15 utc | 225 Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Mar 28 2022 10:20 utc | 220 “For God’s sake leave him alone, will ya? 85% of Americans think exactly like this guy… ” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 11:24 utc | 226 Interesting. Zelinski is dreaming if one month of war, thousands of death, destructions, sanctions and demonstrations of hatred toward Russia will be wiped out by a referendum based change to the Ukrainian constitution removing the “N” word…. Posted by: Virgile | Mar 28 2022 11:55 utc | 228 “I was watching Lira today when he commented that Africans and certain south American peoples are lazy and had no motivation but the Ukrainians were “very hard working”. This is blatantly racist language and assumptions.” Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 28 2022 12:01 utc | 229 Ukrainians under zelinski have been crushed irreversibly. They are a defeated country and have to deal with that. Posted by: Paul Greenwood | Mar 28 2022 12:05 utc | 230 Posted by: Virgile | Mar 28 2022 11:55 utc | 230 Posted by: WJ | Mar 28 2022 12:05 utc | 231 I think we’ve got to get out of this narrative about Zelensky being a puppet for the CIA and doing what he’s told to do. In some part, yes I agree with that but, what is loud and clear to me is that he is dangerous. He vacillates between the narrative he is told to put out and then he shows how dangerous he is in wanting to effectively, start WW3 by insistence on a No Fly Zone over Ukraine. Those are his own beliefs. He has just shutdown all TV channels leaving only 1. He has just cancelled 11 opposition parties leaving only 2 (both with Nazi ideologies) and he has, effectively, crowned himself Dictator in all but name. These are his actions. He was already authoritarian e.g. when he jailed the Leader of an opposition party for ‘Treason’ and put him in prison. That leader was freed by the Russians on their incursion. He is playing an extremely dangerous game trying to get NATO to start a war with Russia. He has no honour, no integrity and no dignity. He is a brutal dictator asking for more weapons so that more civilians are killed. He’s not ‘following orders’ he’s intent on maximising his power with the opportunity the West has given him and to use that without reference to Law, Right or humanity. He didn’t amass $10s of millions of US Dollars in offshore investments and a USD$ 34m mansion in Florida from being a TV comedian. No, he stole it from the Ukranians just as other previous politicians did. Not a second thought. Hey ho though, the CIA will disappear him when he gets too dangerous to them. Posted by: Jo Dominich | Mar 28 2022 12:06 utc | 232 Posted by: Jo Dominich | Mar 28 2022 12:06 utc | 234 Posted by: WJ | Mar 28 2022 12:18 utc | 233 @JB | Mar 28 2022 10:38 utc | 224 Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 28 2022 12:19 utc | 234 151 – Ukrainian flag pulled down and Russian and DPR flags hoisted. According to Russians organised resistance collapsed on the left bank and the only place where there is still organised resistance is in part of Azovstal and they have no means of escape. Posted by: Waldorf | Mar 28 2022 12:20 utc | 235 Posted by: Circe | Mar 28 2022 10:21 utc | 221 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 12:27 utc | 236 Cadence Calls | Mar 28 2022 6:06 utc | 184 Posted by: PJKar | Mar 28 2022 12:36 utc | 237 Posted by: Jo Dominich | Mar 28 2022 12:06 utc | 234 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 12:37 utc | 238 Richard Steven Hack | Mar 28 2022 6:07 utc | 185 Posted by: PJKar | Mar 28 2022 12:47 utc | 239 K@ 160, Norwegian @ 207 Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 28 2022 12:49 utc | 240
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…………. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 13:00 utc | 241 There’s a lot going on right now, and the Ukraine issue is really underlining all the nastiness out of the United States. I argue that the entire “military technical measures” are in their final stages. And that a new phase will develop in April. Posted by: Rufus Arrr | Mar 28 2022 13:11 utc | 242 Cyberhorse | Mar 28 2022 6:08 utc | 186 Posted by: PJKar | Mar 28 2022 13:11 utc | 243 Seeing Zelensky in this press conference with Trump is priceless.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Mar 28 2022 13:11 utc | 244 @oldhippie | Mar 28 2022 12:49 utc | 242
No he is not.
My only point is that he is from Chile. What someone thinks of his personality is irrelevant if his information is likely to be true.
Who says that is the reason for listening to him? I did not hear such claims. The reason why he is a useful source is based on his location plus what he says is coherent and makes a lot of sense. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, what is relevant is if he is able to put some light on what is really going on, and I think he does. Of course, anyone may argue that the truth is different, but calling him a jerk is not an argument even if true. Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 28 2022 13:21 utc | 245 Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 5:51 utc | 183 Posted by: PJKar | Mar 28 2022 13:36 utc | 246 James, it looks to me as if this is not just a CIA project but one of epic incompetence. My guess, following Sue Mullen, is that the Trump years, with the constant Russiagate hobbling of his ability to intervene in Cold War policies, meant that Pompeo had enormous power. But only on condition that he pursued neo-con initiatives. Posted by: bevin | Mar 28 2022 13:37 utc | 247 after Tushaev, another “killed general” (Mordichev) gets resurrected Posted by: rototo | Mar 28 2022 13:47 utc | 248 PJKar | Mar 28 2022 13:36 utc | 248 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 13:54 utc | 249 Horror… Posted by: AntiFake | Mar 28 2022 13:58 utc | 250 The only reason I know Gonzalo is German is I heard it from his mouth within the past couple of days. Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 28 2022 14:01 utc | 251
They still think they can pay for Russian gas by depositing Dollars or Euros at a European bank that won’t let the Russians do anything with that money. What arrogance. Posted by: WhyCantWeJusGetAlong | Mar 28 2022 14:03 utc | 252 @uncle tungsten #219 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 28 2022 14:05 utc | 253 Re: natgas … modest day-to-day increase in the TTF futures, nothing to suggest a possible breakdown in trade Posted by: ptb | Mar 28 2022 14:07 utc | 254 c1ue | Mar 28 2022 14:05 utc | 255
Re gas for rubles. Do any of the European governments buy gas from Russia or is it all privatized middle men? From what I can make of it so far, none are banning private companies from paying in rubles so I’m wondering if these declarations of not paying rubles is just politicians blowing smoke. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 14:19 utc | 256 Robert Lindsay | Mar 28 2022 10:14 utc | 218 Posted by: donten | Mar 28 2022 14:21 utc | 257 @255, 219 c1ue, uncle tungsten Posted by: ptb | Mar 28 2022 14:27 utc | 258 Celtic, Trump would have done nothing, he did nothing to address the bio-labs, nothing to deter NATO’s actions in Ukraine. Trump is empty lip service; people delude themselves. He suffers ADD, doesn’t follow through with anything, does no due diligence; doesn’t bother, doesn’t care. He did NOTHING to address NATO expansion except bitch to get more money. Trump in a moron; the whole black and white, false dichotomous message is moronic; fodder for morons. There is full bi-partisan support for our Deep State. Much more than Hunter, the kids of Senators from both parties have their fingers in the cookie jar. Trump is an adolescent, and anything he did was about that well thought out and effective. He did some damage to whatever he touched, but it was all indicative of the maxim; “Hates makes waste” That some revere that pathetic joke of a “man” is an indictment of their own depth of understanding and maturity. Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 28 2022 14:33 utc | 259 New Zealand, one of the major Five Eyes to spy on Russia. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 14:38 utc | 260 @ptb #260 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 28 2022 14:41 utc | 261 German minster tells Germans to pull a sweater on in Winter time, I bet he/she and their family won’t suffer from the cold, in the UK a Westminster government minister told people to stay warm leave the oven door open after cooking, again I bet this guy and his family will not be cold come this Winter. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 14:41 utc | 262 @Oui #257
Posted by: c1ue | Mar 28 2022 14:44 utc | 263 This contains graphic footage of Russian soldiers being shot in the legs by the neo-Nazis.I am urging people to get in touch with their government representatives to find out why, after our forefathers fought this evil, we are on the side of the Nazis. @ScottinDallas #261
Quite true. Posted by: c1ue | Mar 28 2022 14:47 utc | 265 Russia has one of the largest nuclear arsenals and materials needed to make nukes and the Nazis want Russia expelled from the IAEA. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty are sponsored by the NED. The real international terrorists when it comes to nukes is the US which has dropped two nukes on cities. Years ago there were reports that Israel dropped a small tactical nuke in Syria, though I can’t confirm it. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 14:50 utc | 266 @ Scott Posted by: Platero | Mar 28 2022 14:50 utc | 267 @Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 14:41 utc | 264
So where does this genius minister think the heat goes if the oven door is closed after cooking, out through the electric wires? The thing is that it makes absolutely zero difference whether the door is open or closed, it is just a question how fast it dissipates into the kitchen room. Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 28 2022 14:52 utc | 268 @Republicofscotland Posted by: Platero | Mar 28 2022 14:53 utc | 269 Testing. Posts are stuck in MoA traffic Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 28 2022 14:58 utc | 270
Posted by: Antonym | Mar 28 2022 14:59 utc | 271 One factor no one seems to have discussed yet is the seasonal demand swing for EU gas consumption. We’ve thrown around broad, annualized figures, but that’s frankly silly; as EU gas demand more than doubles in Winter to Summer. So, gas demand in EU is falling fast; that means the sanctions might hold till October, but by then rising demand will force Europe’s hand. It’s doubtful that difference could be made up in that time, but a substantial dent COULD be realized. That still doesn’t account for Nickle, Neon and other rare earths and food. We discussed that much of the food can be off-set with spring planting still pending, and the fact that the boonies are the boonies. Posted by: ScottinDallas | Mar 28 2022 15:03 utc | 272 @John Goss | Mar 28 2022 14:46 utc | 266
In the Norwegian language we have a word for people fighting on the side of the Nazis, it is “frontkjemper”. https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontkjemper (in Norwegian only)
But now it is suddenly ok to fight along with the Nazis against the Russians in the same places the traitors did it in WWII? Something is seriously wrong…. Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 28 2022 15:08 utc | 273 true many officials cant appreciate physical realities. that’s why so many are enthusiastic backers of fossil fuel companies. I think it was Senator inhofe who threw an ice cube on the senate floor to “refute global warming”, but it could have been a senator from many states. the officials pressure scientists to dumb down the policy briefing for public officials in the IPCC reports to minimize the threat, giving themselves cover to continue drilling–as Obama did. Posted by: pretzelattack | Mar 28 2022 15:08 utc | 274 Taiwan, South Korea and Japan, confused on Russia wanting Rubles for their gas, Japan is the third largest consumer of Russian gas in Asia, Japan is joined at the hip with the USA, Edward Snowden revealed that Japan’s entire infrastructure had been hacked by the USA, so it comes as no surprise that the Japanese are self-harming their economy by imposing sanctions on Russia. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 15:11 utc | 275 I watched through the whole two hours of Gonzalo Lira’s latest video from Kharkov. Definitely worth watching.
I disagree with him only on two small details.
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 28 2022 15:13 utc | 276 Platero (271). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 15:16 utc | 277 @270 Norwegian Posted by: ptb | Mar 28 2022 15:18 utc | 278 Japan and Korea can quietly buy gas from China who purchases it from Russia at a cut rate. Posted by: Platero | Mar 28 2022 15:18 utc | 279 As Australia ramps up the war of words with China, the US is carrying out drills in the region with another minion. There’s plenty of US/Nato sabre rattling going on I fully expect to see Biden and Johnson beating their chests and prancing up and down like Silver Back gorilla’s. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 15:21 utc | 280 Platero (281). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 15:26 utc | 281 Petri Krohn | Mar 28 2022 15:13 utc | 278 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 15:28 utc | 282 @274 scottindallas Posted by: ptb | Mar 28 2022 15:30 utc | 283 Continuing on the subject of Russian gas this is interesting. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 28 2022 15:30 utc | 284 Peter AU1 @258– If I take German twitter bubble as a measure of mood in MSM propagandized Germany, most ppl are having a party on the deck of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Everybody is focused on the cost of sanction for Russia, that Putin needs foreign “blood” money to keep his war machinery going. Nobody seems to understand what happens, when entire industries stop working or families cant cook or heat their homes. Habeck is a full blown ideologue who is dragging Scholz with him and our entire society. Posted by: Arne Hartmann | Mar 28 2022 15:40 utc | 286 @286 Posted by: ptb | Mar 28 2022 15:47 utc | 287 On Ruble Payment for Gas: It all boils down to your status as a friendly or unfriendly nation. As I note @287, the list provided isn’t perfect, but you’ll note that Japan, RoK, and Taiwan are on that list. Japan and Taiwan are easily understood, but RoK isn’t. It’s policy under Moon was friendly and I haven’t read anything about the incoming president’s likely policy to change that. According to TASS, the following is the key determinant: @Norwegian 275 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 28 2022 15:53 utc | 289 karlof1 | Mar 28 2022 15:36 utc | 287 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 15:53 utc | 290 @Don Bacon | Mar 28 2022 15:53 utc | 291
This is really a no brainer, so when they hide the fact that they are fighting with Nazis, it tells you who they are.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 28 2022 16:02 utc | 291 @Republicofscotland #286:
Putin is not bluffing. It is the G7 that is bluffing. It doesn’t make sense for Russia to ship its gas to Europe for free. Posted by: S | Mar 28 2022 16:05 utc | 292 I’m reading more about false flags again. Magnier has a whole piece up on this possibility here: Posted by: WJ | Mar 28 2022 16:06 utc | 293 Roubles for gas from the horses mouth so to speak. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 16:07 utc | 294 Peter AU1 @258– Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 28 2022 16:18 utc | 295 Europe will keep buying gas via roubles. They have said they will go away from Russian gas (implying) as they and gas suppliers create the necessary infrastructure over a period of years. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 28 2022 16:21 utc | 296 @ bevin | Mar 28 2022 13:37 utc | 249 and @ Jo Dominich | Mar 28 2022 12:06 utc | 234 Posted by: james | Mar 28 2022 16:22 utc | 297 “I realize some people continue to deny that the US will actually stage a false flag. I hope they are right.”#295 Posted by: Greg Galloway | Mar 28 2022 16:23 utc | 298 RE YouTube Posted by: bubbles 109 Posted by: Delboy | Mar 28 2022 16:24 utc | 299 As predicted, the ruble payment requirement will eventually rupture the pottery which is my analog for NATO/Vassal solidarity. IMO, the citizenry of those nations knows the truth of NATO expansion and the history of Outlaw US Empire illegalities being chronicled by Global Times, the fierce onslaught of propaganda notwithstanding. The Italian’s Gas protest comes amid the news that 30% of its farms are unprofitable with 10-15% about to fail because of extraordinarily high input costs–and everyone knows how much Italian’s treasure their foods. The rest of Europe can’t be much better in that regard. The polls open in France in less than two weeks. We haven’t heard much from our French barflies on the political battle there. And we should recall that so far only gas is subject to ruble only payment with other commodities very likely to follow. |
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